#veteran-class
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On the one hand, true, but on the other hand, management makes the call on what to prioritise. So schizophrenic management decision making on priorities.
Oh look veteran gets shown a different image from what you actually get again.
No imperial eagle on shoulder and just green not camo
Fatshark screwed up
cos it sells anyway
You don't get the one you see in store image, you get the one in preview.
I AM HAVING AN ANEURYSM
I DONT WANT THE JACKET I WANT THE KASRKIN ARMOUR UNDERNEATH4
give me the upgraded hellbore
i want a standalone respirator is that too much to ask
That was so strange I wonder why that happened even
Yeah the set that had karskin armor ain’t gonna show up for a while.
this
Certainly not Funcom, if the changes to Conan Exiles' PVP since 2017 are any indication
I'm fucking killing myself
I've already given my money to Fatshark
They'll happily take it without caring for what you want
Yes
It will only show it on your end but, if you reaaaaally want to look the way you want, you could try the For the Drip mod
im suffering from success with the for the drip mod cuz i have too many cosmetics that i unironically would have to take em all off to remake a costume from scratch
like im just in too deep on base cosmetics
Does fireteam stack?
i dont think anything similar stacks from 2 different players in this game
FS make sure it wont
I wonder if we can get Moebian bosses
The Karnak Twins are like
Their own missions
But all the bosses are from the cult
Wonder if we can get something like an armoured sentinel
The normal captains?
Isn't the captain from the enforcer station a dreg?
And the rolling steel boss a dreg too?
They are scabs
Pls understand. It’s a site being run by two brothers from servers in their garage
Not like it’s some massive publicly traded corporation
rolling steel captain should be dreg
Is that guy called a dreg champion or sth?
he sounds like he should be a dreg
I remember him being called a champion
Champion of admonition?
Idk my dorktide lore kinda rusty
their names are more dreg-ish i think
"sorrette the unflinching" is one i'm seeing in a yt video
Cult champion
Weirdly they’re categorized as “horde” enemy instead of “boss”
cuz they horde all the disease
Lmao
Seems like they also have some personalities
I fought one with a really bassy voice
There’s one with a raspy voice as well if I recall
But Dreg Champions literally are T Captains but a bit more void shield push happy and have a new underhanded swing that can be swung faster than the Power sword T Captain
I dont think we'll ever get to figure out what the scab captains' personalities are seeing as they get vaporized so fast
i wonder what this guy im about to kill is thinking about...
There’s 4 different personalities
I know there’s a video that lists of each one with their quotes
"oh god the chainsword is eating through my skull"
Correction 5
Quotes said by the traitor captains.
Enjoy!
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01:33 Reinforcements (Brute)
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03:06 Encounter (Maniac)
04:03 Combat Taunt (Maniac)
04:56 Reinforcements (Maniac)
05:20 Death (Maniac)
06:58 Encounter (Officer)
07:45 Combat Taunt (Officer)
08:24 Reinforcements (Office...
Brute
Don't worry about it
i dont know of a single bad voice line in the entire game tbh
Real
I’ve only heard like 3 personalities with the champions
Just wish some voice lines were slightly louder though
"Halt, you are not welcome here" as I'm about to stomp the Dreg Bruiser is funny
what do you guys think is the best mark for the recon lasgun?
The one labeled torrent, it has the lowest damage but by far the fastest firerate. Maybe XIV
Dream squad
the officer voice is kruber i can hear it so clearly
it folds
what's it say on that?
I like the XIV but people will vouch for the fastest one
sapper shovel means all 3 shovel marks
then i git this shovel i like its design
Also you can refund it on the forums if you don't like it
They're really cool with that actually.
i buy so rarely i don't refund normally
the spiritual sounds like the salty voice actor but im not so sure
wish the shovel was a better weapon
I feel its a good B tier weapon
a shovel with holes in it is a bit dumb imo
makes it worse for digging, esp through sand
it sustained gunfire
Not much dirt to be digging in a hive city anyways
what exactly does the shovel do best that makes it a good vet exclusive weapon
that one dusty desert map
just CC/defense?
the true vet exclusive is powersword, for another couple weeks at least
ogryn has a similar shovel
Unless the local Guardsmen pulled some All Guardsmen Party type sandbag nonsense
well yeah ogryn has shovel but among the 3 human classes only vet gets shovel
just wish it had more appeal to it
the appeal is facing the hordes of zombies and lasgun-armed traitors with a revolver and a shovel
1
the appeal is using weapons that they would accurately grant to us rejects
The non folding one
(who tf finna hand us a power sword as rejects)
It's definitely Saltz
the shovel from home is my weapon
lasguns are in-canon very cheap to produce and supply, we'd likely get a lasgun before an autogun
i dont like how the standard issue has poor armor pen
i know it has uncanny, but still
the auto guns are mostly relics of the past anyway
push attack gets around this
but it needs more cleave
people can make guns in caves, with a bunch of scraps
for a horde clear weapon, the cleave is not great
and there is a lot of scrap in a hive city
do you think some recon teams get sent to pick up all the dropped weapons of the enemies we kill during our missions
i mean thats extra resources right there
It has a lot of impact though
just do the rites on it
only if the weapon itself is warp tainted somehow
which is very possible
Taking bounties is how u slowly corrupt yourself
I'm sure Leandros is an expert on this

i mean some of them have chaos sigils written on it but ay nothing we cant purify
im imagining hadron in a room filled with servitors, incense and binauric chants from speakers so hadron can slowly pour paint thinner on a dickbut drawn on a 150yo lasgun
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the binauric in question
Nah
10.5 on heavy sweep is quite high
It’s more cleave distribution being bad
And not doing enough stagger vs melee elite waves
ok yeah because it honestly feels like shock maul does better at horde clear lol
mk3 and mk7 both have the folding shovel special
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cue the simpson meme with moe tossing out barney out of the bar
do plasma gun users bother with charged attacks
no
alright ty, ddidn't seem like it
Very rarely
yeah but one does more damage and stays in the enemy longer than the other
i.e. you can't act for longer after using
oh not sure
Nope
The tradeoff is not worth it
so I take it charge rate is the dump stat then
check pins
plasma has no dump stat, check pins
its actually the most tedious weapon to build for
yeah just build a bolter instead 
I'm using the mark 7, and it does actually take a bit of time to pull out the shovel out the target
I don't like it, I am just doing masteries
unsure if the 3 does that tho, never used it
recon lasgun and bolter are my favorite weapons atm
ok sounds like mk3 is the faster one then
or spearhead boltgun rather
Same damage between them, mk7 gets stuck in folded H1 animation longer
A new and Improved version of the Boltgun build, with added Reload speed, Damage and the all important cool factor !
meta this meta that
I low key wish other guns benefited from the shock trooper mechanic besides just lasguns
how we feeling about the augmented legs?
that scratches my brain
In a good or bad way
gives me Lt. Rasczak vibes
just need a mechanical arm
1 step closer to being skiitari femboys
I like it, I've been wanting a adeptus mechanicus class anyways
The new power backpack is probably the only backpack in the game that doesn’t clip to hell and back with veteran’s armor vests
lol
60 penetration knife
Cuz it’s for a “bleed build”
Peak
Making fun of obviously new players to feel superior. Class chat, never change
Found the guy who runs the 60 penetration knife.
You got me
oh god that's bloody awful
I dump the most important stat on a weapon to make the game more challenging
You dump the most important stat because you don't know better
We are not the same
You do you lol
Oh so now it's you do you
It always has been. I don’t care wat others run. But I’ll still poke fun at bad takes.
Especially from Redditors
Nothing against OP
I love veterans who max out focus target so much
it's one of the better team abilities
Even though we talked a bit in general.
I think it's fine. They don't want people to get a rank then sit on it forever for infinite mats I get it.
The requirement to keep the rank is also low enough that if you really care about keeping it it is so easy.
That’s true just I don’t play darktide as often as I use to
Though I guess idc if someone else takes the 8 stack subnode
why is it such a trap tho ? genuine question
8 stacks is not worth taking
I was gonna answer but path appears
8 stacks is actually ass and the stamina + toughness is only useful on like, deadshot builds
You should be pinging all the time so you usually won’t have 8 stacks saved up
I see I see
and the extra 3 stonks shouldn't be giving you meaningful breakpoints anyways
Insightful, thanks !
quick question about plasma gun as ive recently started play vet a ton more, do power blast and gets hot work together?
Power blast is usually not worth it
Any particular reason why? Isnt it just more crit chance?
Iirc the increased Crit damage isn’t insanely drastic vs a raw consistent increase
It’s only 10% for regular shots (which you should be using)
Not hugely impactful
Aight, what would you take instead?
Read a few guides saying blaze away but you lose the stacks so fast when you hit max cr
its so over.......
Do any melee weapon blessings affect grenades significantly?
Does uncanny still work on bleed?
yes
skullcrusher in a sense
Ah, yeah, I see how. So on a build trying to optimize grenades for the hell of it, would a shovel with Uncanny Strike and Skullcrusher do work?
any tips for long bomb penance ?
yea
kraks would be pointless
but for shredders itll do some funny stuff
Oh, this is for a shredder build, yeah.
Also running the bolt pistol with Lethal Proximity
Take a bistol
Yesss
got stuck behind this sum bitch
Trauma
To an extent
I suppose. More impact is of dubious value to me, though.
The thing is that trauma also extends stagger duration
It would probably not be noticeable on small impact though
More of a pause button would be useful. Especially since they'll be bleeding the whole time.
This is what I'm considering as far as talents.
With something like this for gear
Ⅳ Ferrocrete Hide: +16% Toughness. when i upgrade it does the Toughness get 1% more or ?
You talking about on a curio? If so, no, you just have to look for one with 17% to start.
thanks, yeah got a 420 with 17% and there was the 16% to on shop 🙂
Ah, yeah, unfortunately you can't upgrade that as far as I'm aware. You just have to find one in the wild and upgrade it.
i wanna try to make a nice veteran for i could do the weekly quest on, anyone that have a recommended build? open for eveything 🙂
dont like plasma tho 😛
bruhh these commodors rotations suck ;_;
I like cyberlegs + almost literally anything is better than last rotation so I'll take it
I know but man. There are so many cosmetics at this rate it probably womt ne a full year for something youre looking for to come into the store
Pick a mission that has a lot of wide space and either find a group of enemies statically/patrolling. Aim your cursor at the appropriate length and if you can, visualize at least three to four grunt units stacked on top of each other. Keep your cursor at the top of said visual on high ground for example and toss. Usually an easy penance.
What do yall think of the Recon Lasgun, is it worth taking?
More than ever (again), yes.
Works really well no matter how you slice it, really. Feels best in my experience with exestance + marksman's focus/focus target or VoC/Infiltrate with weapon specialist or focus target (for talent point spread sake with how I use it).
Running a VOC / Focus Target build with it
Good trash and mixed horde clear, solid enough kill time on maulers and maniacs, and solid monstrosity and boss dmg.
Run flak over unyielding
Change the blessings to dum dum + deathspitter/infernus
wow i really did get crickets for how bad my joke was
I haven't tried the salvo builds so I can't speak for it.
Some of my favorite setups broadly are
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Flak/Maniac + Dumdum/Deathspitter. Baseline easy standard setup, wide case use.
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Flak/unyielding + infernus/dumdum. Good sustained single target damage with elites and monstrosities in mind.
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Flak/unarmoured + dumdum/infernus. Go-to horde clear with a heavier emphasis on trash sweeping. Usually I take marksman's focus but that's only because I'm treating it as a keystone generator and nothing more really. More of a personal fun time than something I'd say is super solid outside of that niche.
aye thank you big man
But anti boss damage with infernus 
Also it’s funny shredding reapers
Recon’s maniac TTK is pretty problematic
If he’s not going crit chance I think maniac is the best 2nd perk pick
Hmm tbh with Mk 12 and no maniac damage it hasn’t bothered me
I prefer crit rate because without headhunter u need to squeeze as much crit rate as you can to not run out of ammo
Crit/unyielding + infernus/DD
I’m mostly using unyielding for the memes tbf
Esp because of all the BONs
More crit ptrocs also mean longe ruptimes
ruptimes
Yeah esp with infernus
I already miss burglestorm. its fun seeing pub players kite them in the absolute worst ways possible
Had one die and blame me for not taking beacon of purity on my zealot
Like bruh
lmao
Which chainsword has better hordeclear?
mk XIIIg I think?
also normally I'd look at longshot but after having all the ragers spam in my face it's tied between that and a flat 5% I can count on
nah longshot sucks lol
Long shot is a trap
12 meters minimum
I don't think there's a huge difference so its mostly preference. imo mk4 feels better if you're not running attack speed whereas 13 feels crusty without it
Longshot is fun on plasma and maybe revolver and bpistol, or shotgun with fullbore surprisingly enough.
It’s not really relevant
Light spam with Wrath Shred XIIIg
Heavy spam with rampage shred mk4
why shred
ive heard that its way better to run savage sweep
Chainsword has no damage fall off on crits
Savage Sweep is just cleave
Rampage is Strength, which is damage, stagger and cleave
yes but why not both rampage and savage sweep
The XIIIg also has problems proccing Sweep
for mk IV
Do you need the desperado talent to make it worth using?
Probably Reciprocity
Well you'll be fighting hordes so you'll proc Reciprocity very often and also you need Reci to get Desperado
And if you have points to spare you could pick the toughness node and Trench Fighter right under it
all of the new outfits in the store have cool robot legs I'm going to go bankrupt
Least unethical Night City Ripperdoc be like:
Cyberpunk joke, for those who don't immediately understand
can also generate multiple stacks from one dodge if multiple enemies miss
?????
ur spamming shout aaaalll the time
so imo this is better
plus, without it, you can get stam regen node
Well you're losing out on 25% crit chance on a melee that has no damage fall off on crits
So I do recommend reviewing your opinion
Reciprocity is one of the best nodes on the tree because Vet struggles to get access to crit
15% damage isn't giving u any breakpoints either
its only easily done with ranged option
What do u mean it isn't easy to proc, you are dodging all the time
It procs on range and melee
Maybe for you. I take hits on my chin, like a man.
will a 420 rating 17% toughness curio give more toughness than a 410 rating 17% toughness curio?
The other thing I don't understand is this idea that people think spamming shout lit off cooldown
guys do you have a build or something for the sapper shovel munitorum mk1?
if i want to play a melee vet what should i focus on the tree ?
Bottom right and get agile engagement on the middle right
Honestly you don’t need anything for shovel.
It’s a weapon that works without a specific build
I think it’s got a defense stat so that’s the dump
Uncanny and skull something
Skull crusher?
Uncanny basically mandatory
Also there’s a guide in the pins that covers all this
Including any talents you might want to take (prob mostly on the bottom right of the tree)
Yeah that guide is comprehensive
the quick melee guide?
Uncanny is mandatory
Rending is letting you bypass carapace
Decimator if you like gambling and getting insane damage stacks at the cost of avoiding swinging at the air
Or Skullcrusher for overall solid damage increase
Typical perk combo is Flak Maniac
I should really try decimator again for shits and giggles
If you’re good in melee combat
Imo
Miles better
Yeah might be a good pick. Shovel is a super straightforward weapon to use so I have bandwidth to pay attention to where my next slam is going
You tend to use lights to rack up Deci quickly
The moment you hit like 5 stacks
And there’s still a big horde
Start using heavies
Vet is a hybrid class, all builds require you to use your melee weapon at least 40% of the time in a run
You’ll quickly notice poxers falling over in droves
That and to abuse uncanny on like Maulers or crushers, you do PA/L/L repeat
Going off this if you want a pure ranged class consider Psyker
I'm wondering if you can make Skull and Decimator work 🤔
It’s alright just
You’re passing out on Uncanny
You know
The most busted blessing next to Brutal momentum
we need a blessing tier list
Ainz u already know what will be on top
power cycler
is there a video setting i cant really afford to turn all the way down to maximize performance because it fucks with gameplay too much
Lacerate/ruthless backstab confirmed most powerful blessing combo in the game
i remember volumetric light quality or whatever it was on low in vt2 made righteous stands last arena hideous
falter clearly the only true S-tier blessing
Would my build change much if I wanted to swap from rashaad and recon to knife and a combat shotgun or something?
What build?
can you even afford to run rashad + recon las without missing out on some important talents
No
youre always like 1 or 2 short arent you
Yes but I go keystoneless
Not like you need keystones for recon las
It has the recon bits. Rashad is my backup.
U would need to drop superiority and bring it down
U need shock trooper which requires 3 point so the left side
recon is one greedy mf
U need rending strikes if u are not taking onslaught
Focus is the recon, not the rashad.
And I'm using Kraks because I still need the pennance.
U can't take onslaught if u want desperado and trench
Just take the L tbh and bring a PS
Besides Rashad is also a weapon that excels in WS builds
yea
u drop shock trooper
and treat recon lasgun as laspistol sidegrade
PS is a shit sidearm melee
For recon?
PS is great for low investment builds because of how good it is for mixed hordes
Idk what else u could take, maybe Shovel or Shock or DS
With low investment builds I tend to be more shoot heavy
And bringing out melee to deal with random or lesser threats
So I strongly prefer not having to charge the melee weapon if I’m pulling it out to just do mop up
PS is just a wet noodle uncharged
PS isn't difficult to power up as long as you don't have anyone interrupting your combo
It’s not difficult no
It's flexibility is sorta hard to unjustify tho
Being good into hordes, and crushers, and maniacs
Well yeah it’s obviously very good, I just don’t like it as a sidearm
But I don't see the issue of it being a bad melee weapon
I have no idea how you define that
Basically what I asked about earlier
Its not the focus of the build. Which means it is the sidearm.
Its what you pull out to deal with what your primary weapon isn't great at handling. Or in a pinch.
PS cna work as a low investment melee if that is what you mean
Just like how in a WS melee build a revolver might be my sidearm and the PS is my primary weapon
It can't be both?
It can be both, but not if the build is leaning towards more shooting play styles
Why not?
Well I feel like this is just semantics
You haven't explained why the power sword can't function as a melee weapon for a Recon build
????
You say it isn't a "sidearm" because it isn't a good weapon that compliments another weapon.
I asked how so and you just fold
Because I hate repeating myself
Feel free to read the above. Sybreal had no problems understanding what I was saying lol
Hey hey vets
My dude, you are the only person who is "going in circles"
The only response I have been given is: "it isn't a sidearm"
Is it because of its pullout time, it's damage at low investment, it's mobility?
Why can't the PS be used as a "sidearm" by your definition?
I think he means this #veteran-class message
But I dont know why he just doesnt say that
Literally never said that lmao. You can use it as a sidearm. I just don’t like it as one.
But don’t let me stop you
Use whatever you want
It's to "slow" which sure its slower to get swinging but you get a more powerful effect so idk if it ends up being true
Yes I remember but when I asked why that is a problem if the benefit is u literally slaughter everything in front of you in one swing
I already provided examples of why I don’t like it as a sidearm. Feel free to scroll up and reference the above.
This isn't really an argument anymore I feel like Sirosky is just making things up at this point 
"look up" my brother there is nothing there
You asked why. I gave examples. I’m the one making things up. Aight.
I dont like the PS because I dont like having to mess with the charge personally
I use thunder hammer on zealot but you use that charge on that in more specific instances
I don’t understand why this is so confusing lol. We got an ogryn here trying to pretend he’s a vet.
I think its because you dont like the PS for the same reason I do, cause you hate having to mess with the charge, not that it's actually poor for your build
I don't like having to charge it every few swings in order to make the weapon kill things.
This is part of it as well
If you have to block, you gotta charge again. You get poked by something? Charge again.
Not such a hard concept to grasp. Not sure why Mr @autumn bane is struggling with this lol
I just pull out Rashad and things die. Simple as.
If the things are big, I just overhead chop until they stop existing.
But honestly, thats what the recon is for.
This is all just my subjective preference anyway. PS is an objectively strong weapon.
I'm trying to be respectful but I think it is extremely disingenuous to keep saying "I don't get it" or "read up" or "I don't get why it's confusing" when you obviously haven't explained at all a the definition of a single word, nor why it has anything to do with the discussion of the recon.
If I didn’t explain anything, why have multiple other people understood what I was talking about lol
How can he be disingenuous if it’s just a preference?
I even linked the example you claimed that I was making up 
one person does
This one does too.
but I dont because I dont see that corrilation
Orcka are you talking about the recon or PS?
PS
do they?
PS in a recon build specifically lol
He said recon though
we are discussing about melee wepaons to compliment a recon build
see, they don't even understand the context of the convo
My "primary" weapon is my recon lasgun. My "sidearm", which is what you'd pull out to get those 3 poxwalkers to stop poking your butt, is what is up for debate. I like the Rashad since I can just take it out and one-shot them. I, and Sirosky, don't like the PS because of the clunky nature of having to charge it up to make it do the same thing.
Or my shoot heavy builds in general
I think this is the third time you’ve explained this lol
It's not that it is a bad weapon, just that it is not good for the role of "fuck off you stupid zombie shit and let me get back to erasing things".
i feel like every weapon in the game can kill 3 poxwalkers
It's more of a "this is what I'm going to use to erase things" kind of weapon.
I like using PS on a WS build
Even better reason to not have to use a weapon that I need to charge to do that for.
I just dont understand why the PS is "clunky" either as something to kill s afew poxwalkers either, it's more complex when having to do a PA combo
It's only clunky in that you have to charge it before you swing it where as most other weapons you just swing. Clunky is the wrong word, just annoying is more accurate I think
Damn right.
so you dont want a weapon that can deal with mixed hordes or crushers because it makes you feel uncomfortable?
you are treatdeded
No, because thats what my recon lasgun is for.
I don’t need extra defensive perks unlike some people 
I don't need the PS to do that.
I'm not magdumping hordes
I am
I'm farming free ammo that drops from their brains.
me when i like being useless
Or rather, I magdump hordes when I'm near max ammo.
But if the hordes are between me and the special/elite/whatever I'm trying to click the head of, then they get mag dumped.
Better take those extra defensive perks while I rake in my mourningstar crypto then
I always think it depends where the team is at. If I’m playing with zealots that zoom around and melee while ignoring ammo pickups I definitely do
Alright I’ve changed sides on whatever this is
You’re on your own
Also if there is a bunch of ammo laying around and everyone is topped off I waste away
If you’re taking too much damage, no harm in taking defensive perks. I’ll prob do the same for havoc.
And drop dockets
Defensive perks are nice for when brain stops working.
i think its justifiable on XIV but that is because of the cleave
im going to barrel you if we ever have the misfortune of playing
onslaught only works on one target at a time, so u cant kill a horde of crushers with the recon even with it
Krak grenades for that
and if you are out of kraks?
Ok then carry me so I can get the dockets 
That’s all I need
or its not just crushers there are some maniacs closing the gap
I've very rarely ever had an issue with my recon and facing a group of charging anythings.
gladly
They usually get mown down before they get to me. If they do not, they get shouted.
If they're still alive, then I've fucked up badly and that isn't the gun's fault.
what difficulty do you play on?
Then it probably depends what melee I’m using. Power and dueling swords np. Other stuff be prepared to kite around in circles for a bit
Damnation
Charging muties are the only things I dont mow down, but thats because they're usually easy to sidestep and poke.
normal damnation, auric damnation, auric maelstrom damnation?
I really only play normal and auric damnation because when I did maelstrom a high % of people quit too much
because what I am hearing rn is you let your allies pick up your slack
oh ok, so this entire convo has been a waste of time, great 🤦🏻♂️
Its almost always the opposite.
nvm im out 🚶🏻♂️
wtf is this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ9zY6q4NWI
i bet like 90% of yall already have the game and still watched this
mister E being mister E
bottom feeder content
not the based way either
Thinking he is The authority about darktide on yt
True
I’ll bully @tall torrent into doing one with me for fun sometime
I’m just saying this right now hands down no argument Uncanny and BM
DB also
S tier
power cycler
Also that
I’d honestly argue
ooooh
Thrust might be High A
fair
Cause it has situationals unlike the s tiers
Lacerate in L tier
@narrow frost should we take into consideration that they can be strong on certain builds or are we going in with the mindset of just in general
c
Agile
I’d say if we ignore it reinforces bad habits
infinite dodge
B
but only 15 weakspot damage
which was falter?
It’s not good nor is it terrible
Weakspot ignore stagger BPs if I recall
I’ll check one moment
It’s extremely situational
Ripost
Riposte and Precog are easy A
Okay fair
it can make any weapon anti armor
Yeah
U should test grievous wounds
All or nothing
ehhhh
Nah
Riposte S
Precog A
hmmm
And I’m going to be home here in a few
why S?
Riposte is just 20% crit chance for free
But I’m totally down to do a Blessing (in general) tier list
Precog uptime is not very good
The only reason u take it is because finesse damage stacking with duellist sends it very high for 1 hit
In FotF
It’s not rly that impressive in damage
Precog is strong if u can crit every time u proc it
lethal proc
Lethal proc in general
I know
As in like
High C
It’s generally okay
But it’s not enough for the weapon itself
This is if we’re disregarding like
So what’s the meta that IS NOT plasma gun rn
Lethal prox is like A
oh?
Only for veteran
I don’t want to use dueling sword or plas gun so what’s next best thing
We’re talking in general
They’re not the best things on veteran
Like everyone
everyone, any build, any weapon
That’s all the YouTube kids post though
Meta isnt youtube kids
It’s why I bumped it down to like
C+
Cause outside of those I listed it’s
There
Unfortunately DT youtube is just misinfo heaven lol
It exists
i wonder how janky the programming is for trapper nets
Ranking blessings?
Yes
How good would Lethal Proximity actually be if it didn't increase grenade radius
Not worth taking at all
I honestly view C as like
yeah it buffs it
but its so minimal over the other options there's 0 point
D and anything under is actively detrimental
In your opinions what are best perks and blessings on Boltgun
I hate how ammo inefficient it is but I love the boltgun and with both reload perks it’s kind of enjoyable
for perks: flak/maniac/cara/unyield
for blessings: Cava/Puncture/Pinning/Shatter/Surgical
Alright ty
For reloading just take tactical
what's your guys fav ranged weapons for vet in auric?
do low investment anti carapace guns exist
or am i just going to have to run revolver/boltor and cope
with hitting minimal bps
theys all good
If you have bayo bias then get the 3
The middle one. As much as I love the longer charged higher dmg variant, the bayonet attack sucks and you can still 2 shot everything with the median lucius
Solid middle ground
I tried making the slash bayo work but I just don’t like it
Recon 7A or Double Barrel
Recon 7A so yummers
The new vet jacket has a prayer seal wrapping
love to see it
I just completed Clandestium Gloriana on AuDamn but my Untouchable Operative penance didn't update
I joined while it was a match in progress, if that matters; right at the starting minigame
I know this can disqualify you for ASS
So that might be the cause
HI INTENSITY CONSIGNMENT YARD
Game loves cucking players
What does ASS stand for again
I see
Or the title actually. Idr what the penance is called
what is the max amount of wounds you can have? i've seen people have like 6 or so
At max difficulty? 5 wounds
2 base and 3 curios
Yes
At max take 1
And even then I’d drop it once you get comfortable with two wounds
So, i'm getting sick of Hunters Resolve. It's grea and all, but it's reaching to the point where it's doing nothing most of the time.
SO Which you guys think is better?
Surprise Attack or Marskman for Melee
what is the best stat roll for a Plasma gun? its a strange one right?
marksman is much better
ty
Already testing this out lol. 10 seconds is just too goo for that ammout of damage.
ha, I have a 68% therm and 72% charge, so close
if u can fire 8 shots continuously, ur good
the recommended value is just to be safe
@tired egret
What a chad
I just realized that was a user name
Do you actually get that much value from lethal proximity on the bistol?
imho its the best thing about bistol
if you're not making use of it you're often better off with revolver
im not sure if its even fixed yet, but atm point blanking an enemy is a similar effect to popping a shredder, albeit a lot smaller and no damage with a shorter stun duration
for a weapon specialist build with a more finesse based weapon that lacks CC it's fantastic, absolutely my favorite pick
pocket CC rocket
does the stability stat on shotguns affect pellet spread width?
can i use the stability stat to control how wide it can be?
main reason to use bistol
bistol is just a bad revolver without it
rip gotta start somewhere
ok bad is prob too harsh, worse revolver
Good enough revolver with more ammo, better reload and no anti-cara capabilities
but yeah Lethal Proximity is huge on it
As good as revolver is I barely use it on Vet anymore because bistol is frankly just more fun to use besides all the pros
I still use it on Zealot because Zealot struggles with bistol breakpoints
It's actually excellent on Psyker
cool, but doesn't invalidate my point
bistol essentially requires exec stance or FT if you don't want to depend on crits
Its just my Bistol propaganda video
I keep it for whenever anyone brings up its effectiveness
(This is entirely a meme build)
but i'm prob more anal about breakpoints than others
it's very fun with a dedicated build imo
but if you're not using a dedicated build... hope you enjoy gambling for crits and constantly reloading due to missed breakpoints 
that's cool, but the only gun i use on zealot is my knife
anyone wanna help me with 100%ing the twins penances?
this is just pure perfection
3 vets 1 of each aura 1 of each blitz and 1 of each ability
oh and a psyker
You don't compare the two, they serve different purposes.
Much like you don't compare the two revolvers against each other, because they serve different purposes.
utter perfection that mission was
Auric Heresy enclavum baross whooped my ass
Shouldn't have brought the plasma
Wait what even is the difference between auric and normal
Just 24/7 Hi-Intensity?
Hi int always and director tweaks
Mainly playing with tension
trying to level as a vet w/ an assail soyker in the squad is making me want to kms
never thought I would hate my own class sm 
uhh. you do realize it's not an either-or situation.
there's always areas of overlap
Their purposes are different.
End of story.
Just because there's overlap doesn't mean you can slap a "this one is just a worse copy of that one" on it and call it a day.
It's like comparing crusher to thunder hammer, which is the big one that pops up in zealout chat.
Thunder hammer is massive single target dps with relatively average horde clear. Crusher is good single target dps with excellent horde clear.
But most people just say crusher is a worse hammer, when that just isn't the case, because they serve entirely different purposes.
a thunder hammer is a thunder hammer they both go bonk dont they?
dont see the difference
My point is proven.
well i gotta say, you're very in-character
no room for nuance
all black and white
it's really like we're in the 40K universe
nuance is heresy 
Is there a way to make sharpshooter vet less squishy? I do damnation no-down runs perfectly fine running down the other two trees, but sharpshooter makes me such a pushover that I feel like an active burden to the team.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d8c3c73-2982-4f63-aa62-fd29dae9cb01/test-49
Just the talents are modified here, it seems to me I'm supposed to get most of my toughness from headshots, but that's rough on Damnation when you're constantly being poked by smaller guys
You have too many nodes up top
Could be I'm too greedy to take points away from sharpshooter tree to other things
Just path down to nades with confirmed kill
Pick up iron will with the spare points
confirmed kill should be your primary source of toughness in damnation
And grenade regen
Also I think determined is pointless, especially if you take e-stance
I can see a few things that can help you survive
vet is a elite and specialsit killer
this talent will greatly improve your toughness regen
this talent will passively increase your damage reduction
this one too
you are a range focus build
Iron will be like "hmm today I think I will eat a crusher overhead and call him a bitch."
That all makes sense, thanks! I'm guessing weapon swap speed is pointless if I'm not using a hellbore/plasma/boltgun?
Plasma doesn't need swap speed.
E-stance instant swaps aswell
What weapons?
Only helbore and boltgun do.
Vigilant autogun and shock maul (been going through various melee weapons with different results)
I have yet to build a vigilant autogun (outside of troll builds)
but try this out, 4 extra points
Meta picks rn are duelling sword, knife, psword, rashad combat axe
Every time I look at a "when there are no enemies within 8m" talent I think "how often does that happen outside of, like, elevators"
drop reload, get 1st gren, drop bring em down (ouch) to get 2nd gren talent (optional)
very often
I would take rending strikes over bring it down, personally.
I definitely like the power sword, but I'm garbage at properly staying alive with one, I stopped going down when I made the swap to a dueling sword
for vigilant autogun?
Yeah.
Rending strikes helps with its awful maniac adm.
Here hold on.
@faint beacon drop agri VA build.
nah it's not enough
crusher dmg is too high
True
Which one I ask
MF
MF?...
Like high priority target annihilator with marksmans focus.
That's the one I've yet to build with but uh
Bruh.
its totally possible I can conjure something
Dw I don't run MF anyway.
There's a new player in here lurking somewhere that wants one with MF.
I run focus target for it.
Ability?
Okay let me cook up something
That's
yeah thats not very easy to pull off
when you're going full into Sharp shooting
My other two builds have me running into WS
^ the new player in question.
If you want a very aggressive "DMR" type build
where you pull your gun out for shooters or like
anything Elite/Special related
and leave melee for hordes or other easy Special Elite fodder
If u want a very aggressive “DMR”
I could toss my usual build
U take Kantrael IIb
Yeah but agri VA is cooler.
I wish more guns had fast ADS move speed
After playing K2b it’s just not fun to play low ADS move speed weapons
Been using this as of late
It’s literally playing like a turtle
I could probably go without Superiority but it is really fucking funny dropping gunners pathetically quick
Actually shit hold on
Corrected slightly
Exploit helps out with Heavy swords weaknesses that I run with it
3 stam
17 toughness
21 HP
Exploit weakness
From the sound of things, if I want to bring a "shoot the shooters" build into damnation, I should build a weapons specialist hybrid melee build anyway like my other two builds and just use executioners stance when the room is full of shooters.
^ do this one more though
Full shooter worked me early on in the easier difficulties, but damnation doesn't seem to let you sit back and shoot
yeah i had to rely more on vet shout when i made damnation push
i got into too many hairy spots
realized i didnt know very good positioning
it can be tricky to make executioner stance work imo
it takes smart playing and good aim ofc
It's just that I first started darktide I mained lasgun sharpshooter and it was a lot of fun (on easier difficulties) since lasgun on those difficulties one-tapped all the shooters even with body shots
Just gotta face the reality of damnation
Yup. Thanks for all the tips though, will definitely be running back to weapons specialist like I always do
I don't blame you. I put Weakspot damage on my Powersword.
Its not great at all but like when im feeling extra hateful towards Mauler and Crushers I'll use that
and my Toughness doesn't really massively budge much from it tbh
I gotcha.
i run infantry lasgun w/ shock maul and I love using weapon specialist
YOU NEED TO EXPLODE
I've played enough to avoid taking above that shit
No u
Make me.
1v1 me in Darktide.
No I'm waiting for meds to kick in so i can sleep.
Lol dang
I have work in the morning.
Lucky.
infantry lasgun heavily rewards head clicking
Meanwhile, i fall asleep playing Darktide sometimes.
Lucky? I work for a morbidly obese bald man that can't bend his knees, and he hates young adults.
For reference, I am 20.
dw, that's most jobs 
Hes like "I know you think you know it all but I've worked here for 34 years and I know a thing or two, just listen to me so you can save some steps!"
Like sir. You have worked at a fucking grocery store since you were a teenager.
You have no room to be lecturing me on a goddamn thing.
(if you can't tell I hate my boss)
@tall torrentyou think we'l get Dueling Sword nerfs at Dec,3? Seeing 'that' for another 3 months
im not sure im a fan
@tall torrent This worth it or not
Why u asking me 
Whats the best way to get the veteran penance that requirtes you to finish a level with no ammo and 90% accuracy xd?
get good
Shotgun.
The prosthetic legs are peak yes
Oh im saying paired with the Steel Legion fit
is it worth it lmao
(aka does it look good)
I think it’s worth in general
Is it just go to phage tree level, dont use ammo until the final sprint to Masozi, and then just stand at the end shooting the poxwalkers?
Use a shotgun.


