#veteran-class
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Every single time i see you commenting i think you have some antic greek statue on your pfp, only to realize it's a damn cat with a fucking couliflower on it's head
Tac axe because combat axe is boring now
All 3 marks are great fun
Thanks
Unless we talking achlys
No hellgun for vet sobs
Vets can suffer this update.
Yall will live.
(you're likely getting your power sword reworked to actually be usable without power cycler)
Are we getting slop tomorrow?
If power sword gets heat meter charge that it no longer requires power cycler
BM + sunder would be insane
I pray for sunder to be good enough to be taken over power cycler.
BM + Sunder if u didn’t need to activate every 3 swings would be legit the most braindead gameplay in the game
See 12 Dreg ragers
Yea no worries I’ll just cleave & stagger all of them with my 48 cleave sword that also has BM
:)
they should give the zealot a space Marine combat knife that he uses like a sword that would be funny
Isn't that basically a dclaw, though?
Or you can
Actually take a power blessing
The horrors of 40% power PS
Slaughterer still wouldn’t be as good as sunder I fear
It’s just overkill damage mostly
Slaughterer would be a nice touch in place of bm.
You're probably right
not a space between common knives are basically just a combat blade but upsized and it's like half the size of a person I just think it'd be funny
Cause, yknow, strength is cleave.
But it would be horrifying
I don’t think slaughterer changes any breakpoint vs elites on power sword
Cuz it’s a power sword, the base damage is already too good
They also need to make it not a fucking paperweight when it isn't activated.
This is my greatest issue with it at this point in time.
my brain when building my build kind of defaulted to tanky support vet I have all the toughness and team support perks pretty much
I have to hit a poxwalker literally 3 times with a light.
A shovel would drop it in one.
Give me a chain shovel
I hope for a 3rd power sword variant that has less damage but better dodges
my favorite melee is actually the shock maul .......
Yeah unpowered psword takes 3 lights to drop a poxwalker.
a powersword can 1 shot head shot a poxer
Cuz power sword is still missing 1 variant to complete its collection yk
Its fucking terrible.
unactivated
shock maul my beloved the only electric weapon that you don't have to charge to electrocute people with
How would they make powersword variant, hmm
Put thrusting/stab attacks in the attack rotation
also the chain ax seems like it's probably pretty good and what I've seen if other people using it but it looks so dumb I can't bring myself to equip it
Literally copy paste of deimos.
Drop finesse to keep damage in check, replace with defence to modify dodges further
Its slow
Extremely slow
terrible dodges
I still remember how i bought heavy sword to try it out and couldn't kill a poxwalker in 6 hits, never used it again since then
Still to much for me
They're still pretty bad.
I need them to give ogryn a multi-las... it would be so awesome it would be so cool
Keep it at 4 dodges but give it like -0.5% dodge distance at max mobility & defense
Bruh
How
Cuz this -12% dodge distance feels horrible
wait what's the worst now
Me oneshotting four ragers per swing
It had like 56 dmg
this looks like it could be an early game grass type pokemon
Heavy sword can kill multiple elites in a swing
HS lights are ass, its called the Heavy sword for a reason
That explains it
Like even vet will have headtaker right?
You should be mulching horde
Try mk9 or mk7
is the dueling sword as good as everyone says it is seems a little goofy
Mk7 is more fluid but has worse cleave attacks
yes, it is
Chain axe had the worst dodges in the game tied with some other weapons, mostly ogryn ones
It got buffed by 10% so it’s no longer the worst
were chainaxe dodges worse than ranged weapon dodges?
1 handed chain axe btw
No
Chaxe dodges still had melee properties
mk9 has a perfect braindead moveset but needs to PA/light chain into horde clear and requires a Heavy 1 -> Block cancel/Special loop for single targets @umbral scaffold
That ranged ones don’t have
Shit thats only the mk9 advice
Ogryn weapons actually don’t have low dodge distance
whatever
the two-handed chain ax on zealot doesn't look nearly as goofy as the one-handed one on vet
Im talking about their heavier stuff
That sounds way too complicated
Ogryn’s base dodge distance is 3m
Other classes’ base dodge distance is 2.5m
Iirc it was tied with branx
It really isnt
ogryn is big and jacked
There is no 2 handed chain axe
Its Light -> (Heavy loop)
Lol
Old chainaxe was also -12% at 80% mobility I think?

im on drugs i was thinking of the chainsword there
Karkin vets
they should give zealot a two-handed shovel
Horde clear is light/PA into infinite heavies, single target is H1 special loop. You can use special to reset your combo into H1 if you're somewhere in it.
like just a full size shovel instead of the little trench one
I think that'd be funny
give zealot an ogryn shovel is what youre saying
Holy Penance Shovel
no the ogryn shovel is just a trench shovel but ogryn sized i want an actual just like spade
Mk19 😭
Yeah I get what you mean
Like
5 foot stick with shovel head
Like a normal shovel
just give zealot this straight from home Depot
CHAIN SHOVEEEEL
That would jam so fast
NOOOOOO
profile picture checks out
Give zealot another crusher

they should give zealot the pox flamer as a weapon I don't know why I just think it'd be funny
Unironically I’d love a flamer with more knockback and this would be it
Give Flamer Mk(X)
ogryn needs more weapons the most tho bro shares no weapons so he has like 6
Yeah pls give Ogryn some love
Pickaxe was such a great addition, hype for precision stubber
Give ogryn ability to grab heretics like a mutant and smash them into ground
they should give him a heavy Bolter and also a multi-las, they should also let him punch people like you should have a melee weapon option that's just like brass knuckles or something
A lascannon would work
And it is an equipment option for them in the TTRPG's
So GW couldn't really so no without some BSing
It's funny coz i always thought regular troopers won't be able to use Bolter effectively, darktide proved me wrong
what blessings for db shotgun?
are the bolters you use it in dark tide not like smaller
cuz I feel like it's too small for a space Marine to use
Bolters are a basic ass guardsman equipment option on tabletop
You can just shoot them
That's because we aren't using a bolter, we are using a boltgun. Most likely the same pattern that SOB use.
Heavy fucking bolters?
what is this a Bolter for ants
a 50BMG round probably unironically has more propellant and kick
It’s the arbites’ boltgun
but yeah I think that the ogryn should get a laser weapon I want more laser weapons I love laser weapons
they should give ogryn a bolter 
Ogryns could use a heavy bolter, no problem.
Ah
Heh
Nvm
GAME SHARK GIVE THE OGRYN A HEAVY BOLTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
my voice to text is tripping
I'd rather have a lascannon, tbh.
Your horse lmao
I want a multi-las
Reminded I have this
Ogryns don't have any las weapons at all.
I don't care if it doesn't make sense
I want a laser
gimme laser machine gun
frankly I just want a weapon for ogre that's not either break action or has that stupid brace mechanic that forces you to stay still to shoot accurately I hate it
I pretty much exclusively use the two break actions because they're the most fun I don't like bracing the grenade gauntlet is honestly kind of trash 😭😭
How is that two barrel heavy machinegun dakka called
heavy stubber I think
Twin Linked Stubber
That + shield = immortal ogre
I prefer the shield with the rumbler
I love Shield
Pickaxes on top
hop off my goat
It is sleepy but it saved a lot of games
pickaxe users when there's 800 Gunners in front of them (there's nothing they can do)
Lol
It will soon be necessary to specify Twin Linked or Regular Heavy Stubber
There is, and its called literally any ability/ just fucking get in there
okay but have you considered with the shield you can protect the lil uns better
I protect them by killing shit
You can also agro demonhost
I blocka da gun fire
If I sit there with the shield planted like 8 enemies will stay on me and the rest break off to be useful
oh yeah aggro demonhost and then shield lock in a corner, very funny very silly
You CAN eat normal bullets, but sniper shots overpen the shield
now you can tank a sniper shot if you do the shield lock in the ground thing
Putting the shield up for a sec and taunting gunners with it seems useful
Don’t use that
Nah they don’t
I thought it could collat stuff behind you
just use it it's coded I love the shield lock
(thats what I meant by overpen)
goated*
shield locking on malesteom mission to save my teammates from the 20 snipers on the other side of the map
(you are just focusing them all on you so the team has to dodge you instead)
Oh, didn’t know that
I heard that if you have even just 1 yellow toughness the sniper will only delete that one without hurting u at all
actually my last malestrom match was mostly mutants like every 5 seconds 50 mutants would spawn insane
as a voice of command enjoyer I can confirm that this is false I have been one tapped by a sniper on damnation right after popping voice of command
VoC is lame
(its really strong but its a get out of jail free card with borderline zero CD if you play right)
One tap as in, downed?
Last time I played my VoC build (I only have one build that uses it out of 15) I was in a corner with a bulwark and went "damn this kinda sucks... Oh wait I can just win" and then pressed F and won instantly
probably
yeah that's why it's awesome I love instantly ressing my teammates ‼️‼️
It's still better to win instantly than to die and lose whole game
I like thinking
the res node nerfs VoC
its utility lies in spamming golden toughness, not rezing bads
number of specials in shock troop auric 5 is nuts
i like to have fun and help my team 
I could've beat that bulwark with effort
they just keep spawnin
yes but I like full rewards from completing the mission
But I just have the win button
Hardest one to really master is stealth tho
Stealth is just 18 seconds of effective invulnerability to revive/do objectives
Or sneaky peeky stabbi elites
Easier to complete it if you prevent people from going down in the first place by spamming gold toughness
stealth one's fun the one I really don't get is execution stance, I've tried it before with different builds and it just feels so underwhelming and kind of useless
VoC's stagger is enough to res someone
cmon man
lol
stealth trivializes the game, it literally invalidates certain mechanics
people only dont take it on vet because smokes are terrible
vape nation build
yeah but the level 20 psyker keeps killing himself, and the Zealot keeps overextending what can you do
I have it on my lasgun knife build and it's pretty useful tbh
Instant target highlights is so good, I can regularly keep it up long enough to fully recharge it
It’s rly more so because stealth has 1~2 extra point tax
Smokes are great
They are just obtuse
L take on smokes
I do like the one that lets you see all the ranged enemies, a lot of people don't notice ranged enemies until they kill them
Smokes require atleast 80 IQ to use
I don't feel very safe my lobby is dripped out
That is exactly the point
Not really, just toss at feet in 90% of situations
How many ppl using them as immolation nades?
Between wanting a high fov and graphics being potato, I kinda need exe stance just to fucking see where exactly their heads are
I did use smokes for the pennants for the cool pants and honestly they're actually pretty good I didn't expect them to be, they're great for when you're getting pastured by Gunners or snipers from far away or you need to cover someone and don't have a shield cycle or ogryn cuz it makes them way less likely to get hit by range
truly the thinking man's grenade
why use a blitz that can kill enemies
when you could take a blitz..... that does nothing...............
f*ck yeah...... maybe even slightly inconvenience your teammates by obscuring elite packs.....
they should make smokes able to put out fire I think
Why
cuz smokes can do that in real life iunno, would be nice not having to wait for the flame puddle to go away to go through a doorway
they should make smokes not have a tiny radius and have it be the size of the visual effect of the smoke
yeahg...,
Makes ranged enemies miss, shotgunners pull melee, specials reacquire targets, and does suppression ok explosion
I'm a krak grenade enjoyer, like literally every single veteran player because krak grenades are op
I don’t like kraks
oh my god do you like anything Jesus
Feels like a bad crutch when I use them
I think what smoke needs is to counter bombers and have a bit more radius
Back in a day we could carry 5 nades no?
you just run no fucking upgrades
I like infil, exe stance, weapon spec, and MF (sometimes)
I just have beef with middle tree
Do you have exe stance MF recon las build? 
Nope
I like running zigzag
I have a lawb build for that
my tree is a zigzag
Infantry lasgun?
But it might run infil
im not sure i agree entirely with that assessment but lets leave it at that
agree to disagree

Read paths guide
i dont read stuff by bads

even though I mostly use middle tree, I have to spend some points in the left tree specifically so I can get the extra ammo perk because I love having a hundred ammo in all my las guns I love never reloading!!!!!!

just how it is
No comment
I don't read guides because I like having fun and figuring out builds for myself :3
Just fucking died
God I hate chaos spawn
“Players inside the smoke cloud are concealed, reducing unengaged enemies detection range, which stops ranged enemies from firing and causes specialist enemies to need more time to attack.”
Shit forgor reply
What's worse than a chaos spawn? 2 chaos spawns during an active horde, yay
@runic flower
'ate plauge ogryns, 'ate chaos spawns, love me veast o nurgle simple as
dont argue with flowers, he just has some kind of rageboner for cauliflower cat
I got a chaos spawn AND a beast of nurgle during a horde
Would rather fight a daemonhost solo
I love beasts of nurgle they're so silly
its a botanical rivalry of sorts
I don’t even know why he hates me lol
they waddle around and go bleweeg
RIP
Spawns are annoying but beatable and pogryns are just hilariously bulliable
It’s sad
You can attack loop them forever
Because you're a bad apparently 
one time on damnation when we were two men down we got a double Beast of nurlge spawn during a horde
insane
My happiest moment was when i killed Burgle with knife
rn im having way more fun with zealot than with vet
zealot just feels like you have a ton of options. lots of excellent talent nodes that you can experiment with
I mean, I don’t think I’m very good
Man a guy with pfp of cat with couliflower on head cannot be bad
I love throwing triple krak grenades onto the weak spot of the Beast of nurgle and almost insta killing it
Alright no, I play both classes the most out of the four and vet has WAY more options
okay but Zel has more drip
(Mostly because the zealot tree is built interestingly and large parts just fucking suck)
But I usually know what I’m talking about
like I'm sorry Guardsman enjoyers but the funny candles on the shoulders that make no sense are way cooler
Zealot is, like, 3 valid paths and just swap with whatever weapon of choice
I’m prob the easiest “high playtime” player to outdmg
zealot gets the cool hammer so it's the best class
I love funny hammer
Would you like the piety or the IJ?
Maybe even Martyrdom if you are playing 4 specific weapons
funny hammer
I'm feeling very original today so I will take IJ

I don't know any of the zealot perks because I'm like level 5 zealot I don't even actually have the hammer yet
Idk where my skill level sits tbh
U could prob ask the few zealot chat guys that have played with me for their opinion
And then it has Masters Retribution and Martyrs Purpose
the random Gunner watching the zealot fly at them at mach fuck with a hammer
yeah thats cuz zealots the best class in the game
How’s porting your guide going btw
On one hand, after playing mostly Zealot before and after leaving the game for a while, switching to Vet just feels like shit honestly. Maybe I just forgot how to play any style that isn't mostly melee
NOOOOOO
see the strength to be found in faith!
so true Glory to the god emperor
I’m considering scratching the stagger breakpoint “section” and just putting that into each weapon’s own section
Also I managed to port radar charts as images into steam so that part is staying
Tried weapon specialist vet yet?
also not going to lie I haven't tried it but the marksman focus Keystone seems kind of buns
yeah objectively speaking
it just feels like the best thought out class in the game
i used to not like them until recently and im sold
You should include cleave values for weapons if it doesn’t actually suck to do
I always joke that The Zealot Build is basically variants of this
zealot is fun if you like having about three builds
It’s already going to be there
It’s already there in the word version tbh
pretty much
best classes is actually ogryn cause uuuh uuuuuuuuuh uh uuuuhm uuuuuuuuuh big guy eehheehhehe
Mk 7 or Mk 9 lasgun?
every zealot build in existence covers these 4
this is plasma gun section rn
Which lasgun, there are 3
erm 4
Kantrael pattern
At least all 3 are fun
So no issue there
Lucius is the best pattern of all
it's basically about as comprehensive as it gets
after I finish adding the stagger table to it
That isn’t helpful: infantry, recon, or helbore
yeah it's fun, but vet just has more variety
some people just have fun killing
and nobody kills more than zealot
las pistol I love the las pistol God bless the las pistol
Oh I agree
Going through penances and tried Marksman's Focus first since I wanted to see what the recon lasgun hype was about. Honestly unimpressed, but maybe it's because I suck at aiming a recoilless laser hose
Infantry
im sure vet will enjoy getting bullied by ragers cuz he had the wrong gun in hand
First one
knife + FOTF is very fun tbh
?
just wished the tree opened up some more build variety
take the hellbore las gun pill, simply bayonet them to death
Just use melee / VoC / shredders and get them to fuck off
I feel assaulted
big guy
for you
Class strength rn is smth like
Psyker > veteran ≈ zealot > ogryn
kinda hard to make "stab guy" do something else other than stabbing
atleast you have different methods of stabbing
I think that all of the classes are good and fun :3
he also have whack you can whack people with hammers
I play all 4 and I agree
yeah thats cooked not a psyker on earth that can match a zealot with DS
real protect the lil uns
If EK surge m1 didn’t exist yea
kinda
id argue that holy revenant branch becomes less useful the better you are so you can just put those points elsewhere depending on skill
me sprinting across the entire map to save the physker who blew up fighting a horde
(ogryn moment)
the ogryn urge to charge accross a horde of elites to pick up that 1 overextended teammate
Real
me when I forget that I didn't have a venting shriek equipped
i don't understand the shovel
not a weapon
If you get surrounded and don't use your tools properly you're instantly fucked on Psyker
Shit happens. Also there seems to be no way to reach the bottom half of the tree without spending at least 2 points on something dumb
(other than Beacon of Purity if you know you're going into something with Corruption guaranteed, then you're only "wasting" one point, on Hammer of Faith)
As I have learned to my pain 
yeah cuz physker has ridiculous horde clearing potential but they also have to have space because you know they can explode if overwhelmed lol
you have a choice between a normal sword, a sword that can cut through anything, a chainsaw sword, an axe, and a stun baton yet you choose the shovel
psyhkers are just like me, I also explode violently when doing multiple things at once
Shovel is best, it can slice, it can stab, it can also cause a blunt trauma, and dig a grave for your enemies, best fren of a soldiernl shovel is
okay but can you eat your cereal with a chainsword
didn't think so checkmate atheist
Channeling #zealot-class energy
Do you not?
what’s going on
do you like shovels
im sure i could figure that out
There’s 1 guy who’s like “am not gonna read path’s guide cuz he’s bad”
And everyone else is talking in languages I knowledge-gated myself out of

okay do you like shovels
you never know when you needa dig
fr
i do
lmfao
Idk what my skill level actually is tbh
Maybe flowers is just really unbelievably good, who knows
shovels the best weapon because uuuuuh i am a dwarf and im digging a hole diggy diggy hole in digging a hole
those use pickaxes
ur cooked
Dwarves using pickaxes tho
Me watching as the more experienced players leave us to fight the Beast of Nurgle while they deactivate the skyfire
Both
(I got vored and died)
They use both
I'm clearly you haven't played Minecraft you use your shovel to dig through the dirt first SMH my head
it’s hard to rate someone’s skill
Pickaxes to break rocks and shovels to move them once broken
idk where i’d put you
maybe like 2 steps below cole?
which is still very good
cole is just
that song was from a minecraft serjes have i hit unc status
insane
Tbh idk where Cole’s skill level sits either
that shit was viral when jt came out 💔
Cole is a post destiny addict
he’s better than dorn

He has attained the power and mindset to do anything
damn, i can just click heads real good
Conditioned in the very fires of hell itself
I'm actually the best of this game I'm not going to prove it though but I am
This chat is more random by the minute
do you guys like mango sherbet
It can get worse
Cica could be here
Literaly topic are changing faster than magazines in frontline
Let's make it worse either way!
My playstyle is weird
It’s really easy to out damage me
But it’s usually really hard to out score me
dorn says they’re equal, i think cole is better though
where the hell do you see your personal scores I only ever see the total kills thing at the end of the match
I LIKE TURTLES RAAARARRRRRRRR
score means nothing pookie i’m ngl
scoreboard mod
Cole grub
Yea I just hard farm crafting materials
Me and the psyker watching as the ogryn and zealot abandon us to do the mission while I get eaten by the beast of nurgle and the psyker kills themself for the 100th time
I don’t rly care about total damage
im on xbox..,.,. 
I only care about #diamantine pickup
you don’t even need them anymore :(
(I am also basically a Cole grub)
the heresy experience
I need diamantine
how are you making that many weapons
for real the Diamantine grind is Brutal, I just want to power up my guns
I was 2 wounds level 20 zealot carrying a heresy game with level 30 people...
cole is a me grub
all of zealot chat is a me grub
Science
It was so dumb
I have master worked like eight weapons for veterans so far I want to do them all
just use loadout config!!
If a weapon has like
2 variants that use different blessing combos, I’ll make two
Fuck diamantine i am always low on that one
this post was made by team plasteel
yeah I have like 5,000 of the other material and then like 200 diamantine
im a diamantine millionare but im on a plasteel drought
I haven’t worn through my reserve yet
how do you run out of plasteel!!!
I am actually wearing it down though
AURIC heresy experience
this game needs a black market where u can trade 1 material for the other
I ignore all of the plasteel on the map
As opposed to eternally collecting it
For my first auric mission dying twice isn't bad tbh
Die
is auric heresy as brain dead as regular heresy
I AM LOW ON MONEY ASWELL FFS I AM POOR AS FUCK
mfs out here having low gold ?
I think me and the psyker were the brain dead ones
Lmao my ass off fr
We were fighting the beast of nurgle while the experienced players just ignored the boss
well back to master working the hellbore or me
And by we I just mean me because the smyker was clearly doing something else but was hanging around me
(Consecrating 60 green bases then sacrificing them)
You can't ignore the boss forever though, they will follow you through the map.
Yeah
There was a beast of nurgle who followed us from the Data Interrogation part all the way to the last airlock to the Consignment Yard
It just happened in my last game, 3 guys in the airlock, then the next zone is hallway.
smykers....
Hence I was carrying for these "experienced players".
disgusting creatures
I was playing Consignment Yard with HI Mutated Horrors
I think we fought like 8 Beasts of Nurgle
I hate sneaky flamers
i guess they took advantage of burgles being fat and slow
My Thammer Zealot would've LOVED it
cuz a pogryn or chaos spawn is just gonna catch up immediately
finally i am vindicated for years of going after then worthless diamantine 
Luckily those are both easy/ fun to fight
Meanwhile me and the smyker were shitting our asses because the ogryn and zealot weren't helping us with the Beast of Nurgle
i have 8k in the bank still
hello I want to use this build, but I tried a build from this site before and people in this disc said it was bad. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1b6648-4968-4b00-a3b8-4d1883cffd95/kharns-saltzpyre-vet-carry-clutch-auric-maelstrom
Do I use Maniac, and unarmored like the pinned doc says, or are the perks on the stub specialized for this build and I keep it?
u shouldve just dragged it to them
I get vored waaay too much
Vile tactic lmao
lol, 2 downs, 1 got vored...
If i suffer everyone will suffer
Psyker killed himself
I got vored
Spat out
Got gangbanged and died because the beast of nurgle took all of the available wounds
U had the worst day of your life
At the end event
Being swallowed by burgle
I got swallowed like twice prior
When we got to Coolant Control
I was alone because I went off to get Medicae
U must have been yummy then
seems good but thrust on dueling sword is strange. just go uncanny strike or riposte
I think my vet was crying so we hightailed it to the airlock where everybody was waiting
Yeah this weird burgle event ruined like 99% of my damnation games
also consider putting the point in field improvisation somewhere else
I died the first time from a chaos spawn
Agile is also basically wasted
The team was too busy beating up the BoN in their way I just bled the fuck out
Just learn to manage dodges instead of building terrible habits
I have precog and uncanny on mine (since I use it for other builds)
nah i like agile a lot im not going to diss it
is the stubber fine as is on that site?
Hey i never really tried but can you block spawns of nurgle?
The grabs? No
so do you think I swap to maniac and unarmored, since I'm going carapace on my sword?
Everything else besides vomit? Yes
I get vored enough to know that
Not grabs just his fucking tentacle slamming on your butt
Yeah you can block that
or is elite better with maniac on the stub
Hell yeah
BoN have an obsession with me I swear
also the curio perks are kinda messed up.
Just don't throw krak first
Try stealth 
And I use plasma so I don't need krak
Plasma is eh vs BoN
Eww plasma
I use both plasma and krak for that reason
dont plasma shame
Why everyone hates plasma
Oh I will
As a reformed plasma user
its just boring is all
It’s lame
Oh comeon
Infinity magazine with revolver damage and borderline infinite cleave
Bulwark pen
Carapace damage
Zero suppression (for self)
If anything is lame it's dueling sword in my opinion
I quite like this build (swapped out VoC for Exe Stance
Coz i only use plasma out of these 2 and i like my cadian shocktrooper
Oh gods you reminded me you only get 5 builds by default
And here I am with 15 on both vet and zealot
I have like...6 and yet not a single one with smoke granades lmao
i have 15 and 3 of those use smoke
smokes are fine, lets you get a revive when there's shooters everywhere
I have Krieg with lucius and shovel, Steel Legion with infantry lasgun and knife, cadian shocktrooper with plasma and chainsword, one elite reject with brauto and devil claw, and 2 recon lasgun builds one brainrot second stealth
guys is it bad if i take off on your toes and Duty and Honour to get 2 points for Bring it down? (Dueling sword and Revolver)
Drop the toughness on swap from weapon spec
Or alternatively, route through smokes and infil
Skip Demo stockpile and get demo team
mmm if I take off toughness on swap I still need a point to reach bring it down
I have elected to use the plasma gun exclusively as it is the veteran weapon, how do you use it effectively ? The delay on lmb is difficult, and I can only do a few charged attacks before overheating
The heat buildup is used for the perks ?
@tall torrent
3x ammo for 2.6X damage
^ resident plasma knower.
I never had any problem with ammo capacity with this gun, probably because it is so slow and horrible to shoot at things with
This needs tweaks
Tweaks?
8 stacks tag is worthless and get back in the fight is mid as hell
That would be because your plasma currently sucks lmao.
The weapon is a beast if properly rolled.
Don’t use crit chance or crit damage perks
They suck compared to an armor type damage bonus
I think I need to do this route to get the point. Do i also drop fire team to get close and kill?
the talent tree itself is perfectly serviceable
for the dueling sword you want riposte on vet always and either uncanny strike or precognition
some combination of flak carapace unyielding for perks
The damage is pretty good, but the problem I have is that I can not hit anything. I have never used a video game weapon with such a huge delay on lmb, I am usually already centering the screen on the next target when the first shot is away
I'm trying to squeeze in bring it down because I'm greedy but I don't know if it's worth mangling the rest of the abilites for the 2 points lol
It’s .5 seconds with a 80% charge rate roll
I think
It’s close enough
you already have kraks and the dueling sword handles crusher packs, reapers, etc
I dislike the equipment in the game for this reason, you have to spend hours just to make them reasonable to use
Not really, getting something literally perfect takes like, 5 ish missions with max mastery
You’re mainly capped on dockets for empowering
But just know
It used to be
much worse
@austere mica just out of curiosity, what is your strongest build for maelstorm damnation
lol yeah this system is prob 10% of the time it took compared to the original grind
I did not play the game at all after the beta, I refunded it and waited until very recently to play the game, and I still think it is not that good
I have like 5+ load outs I can run per character

(On auric)
you don't need perfect weapons anyway
just work with what you have
and then the perfect weapons will come along
Absolutely
@austere mica do you think this build is better over the last build I posted with voice of command slotted in?
But bad teammates tend to be in normal damn and heresy
And they make games interesting
the difference between a good weapon that you can get right off the bad and a perfect weapon is
not that big tbh
It works, wouldn’t recommend grenade tinker
sure this works, kind of
you might as well drop grenade tinkerer and just take shredders instead
It only provides boss damage on kraks
Use those two points to take Low Profile and something else
OH THE NADE
nothing is better than voice of command
by virtue of it existing all the other vet abilities are bottom of the barrel despite not being bad themselves
it's the most broken ability in the entire game
Low profile and Demo team
Which is why you shouldn’t take it
It’s boring
As bad player i love VOC coz it saved my ass numerous times
Oh I miss placed it on the tree for some reason
Just take whatever
It’s your point
i cant get the right visor to make this guy a proper karskin
We have the helmet rebreather combo already in game it's just missing the visor for some reason, and the camo.
It looks below average tbh
I like the scion helmet more for it, even if its not accurate
its not good
In pub games stealth is better since you can do solo objectives or rescue all 3 if they are dead

Solo + smoke = ez objective
I have stealth build without smokes
Fair
it gets posted a lot and is probably really popular as well
sadly
people keep upvoting the shittiest "ZEALOT META" build
that's been there
for more than a year now
JUST GIVE ME THE BEST BUILD FOR INFANTRY LASGUN
the 8 stack focus fire, not building for chainsaw BPs (iirc), useless 1 point longshot dip. the list goes on
(There isn’t one, everything inflas does helbore does better)
if we look at perks and talents in that one, its borderline trolling
bloodletter chainsaw 13
I have the worst auric vet build on this chat
Still waiting for krieg cosmetics 😭😭😭
I remember it being decent
Unfortunate
Just run penance cosmetics
this guy is pretty funny
My beloved green rarity chest piece
eh, could be worse. but exploit weakness huuuurts
The shirt with suspenders and a scarf
This one is coolest
well i do this. no claim to the bestest ever built tho
could free up 1 point by going demo team instead of stockpile
I think i have exact same one
just drop 10% rending for bring em down, it also boost crusher damage
20% reapers, bulwarks, crushers and bosses > 10% rending
not on lasgun imo
ilas idk, didnt bothered building even a single one
I still suggest to go for that one, 10% rending by itself (without onslaught its kinda pathetic), while bring em down boost melee/ranged significantly
the one that can use it either revolver or plasma if that allows for breakpoints
otherwise skip
its basically a BETTER version of zealots passive, difference:
zealot got 20% garbage damage VS infested
while Vet got 20% damage vs Crushers
bro i HATE the penance for that shirt istg its borderline impossible on controller
also what gun is that
Just gather friends, jump out of map to kill yourself at the start, tell them not to pick you up, and just wait for them to finish
Yep

how broken is the rapid fire recon lasgun with infernus and headhunter
even worse then mk5 infantry auto?
Recon lasgun has practically no recoil
- a lot of ammo, no consumption on crit and extreme rapid fire
is any other gun that lv of stupid?
maybe gonna be time to unpack the light toy gun
I mean, plasma is pretty brainless
Ooooo got this from auric mission. Good stats?
true and it is funny when people blow themselve up
I'd say Stopping Power needs to be maxxed but it's at 69 so NICE
not the best but sure you can use it if you dont have something better
Didn't even notice that, now I must use it
Mobility dump stat is fine on IAG, but dmg and power would be best to be 80
Mobility 60 everything else 80
Thanks mates
Sad that Vet doesn't get a grenade launcher or smth in the new update
there was one back in W40k Dawn of War 1
maybe vet will get one later
Ah a fellow man of culture
I really want a plasma pistol tho
We got that in Helldivers 2 first lol

they even have variants
I need to hear my Thump Thumps followed by Boom Booms
Why would anyone choose a pistol or a revolver instead of a rifle of any kind
Hard to cavalry charge with a rifle
Spears
Spears weren't in the equation you set up lol
It's like we have a fucking horses
piggyback on an ogryn
Charge at 10km/h
Don't wanna fuck with 40k horses though, 40000 years of selective breeding created the monsters that the Atillans use, and those are the NATURAL ones
Only horses i ever seen in w40k are Krieg ones with gasmask tbh
Oh and those in dawn of war at imperial guard roster, those were Steel Legion tho
Those horses are genebred cyborgs with drugs in their system hahaha
Anything close to Shire breed?
Cool hat
Horse
Nah the hat is cooler
Cool grandpa


New shop rotation in 30mn right ?
Please be krieg please be krieg please be krieg please be krieg
Should be 11am swedish time
Just got Untouchable by accident in Auric Maelstrom with randoms ||All Guardsman Party with 4 shouty boys||
When you're Shoutier than Shouty
fight until death
when you can stand, then you can kill
i like the cutthroat lines
my brother used the professional
I mean the voice actor does a fantastic job, ngl
Traxis something something... SNIPER!!!
It's just, way too shouty
fits to darktide though
i have female vet with this voice
I like the homage to Cadia but sometimes Cadian Cutthroat just won't shut up about it
Hot take: Something as common and generic as e.g. a Sniper would just be called a Sniper, or a one-word nickname at most, all the Traxis shit is dumb even for the Imperium
Imperial Bureaucracy at its finest
female zealot judge, ogryn bodyquard and male psyker savant
That's a talented female zealot jk jk
@merry coral new cosmetics yet?
I thought I had +1 hour compared to sweden but, nope, same time zone
I'll ping you at 11am then
Well I'm at work so, I won't be able to see anyway haha
but ppl will post on reddit or General anyway
Damn you too?
Alas
some new stompers for vet
Now to wait another 2 weeks
In hopes for something better
Screw this shop system fr
what do you think about the shovel skin
this vet's legs are the first thing I've bought from the shop in a very long time
tanker jacket isn't my style, but it does look good
i run still around as a magistrati patrol
The head on the set is non existant tho lmao
glorified hair remover, maybe
I mean, I have the long hair sidecut so
back head inplant
yayyyyy another dooky comadores ventures
best way to get armourbane done quickly? what would be the best mission/s to do it in?
why do it quickly kraks are good or not
ik i just wanna get the pants
who need feet...
ya missed it
but it's coming back
moebian 21st modifier gave chaff horde flak armour
wdym? it's in the penance menu rn
moebian 21 modifier tanky meele scrubs
ohh the mission
tossed one into the horde and you'd get ~10 kills
it's coming back with havoc though
oh cool
just gotta make it to the tier where it's added first 
the two skins I wanted
and I didn't get them
ughghghghhhhh
you got another shovel skin
and who the hell uses shredder pustol
me
...
it's literally the best fucking gun ingame
I don't wanna hear it mate
this one's mid asf
its really not
it looks mostly like a mk7 with some green
gullible
it's using the mk4 handle
and the green fade
lmao
saying stupid shit and getting a response does not make that person gullible 
what in the world is this
my goodness
it's as if... it's a joke?
throws the shredder pistol against an enemy and uses the vraks mk5 autogun instead or one of thr braced
best horde clear weapon? (im new on vet)
melee
shovel
mk1
decimator uncanny/flak maniac
...
im on slow internet I dont got time for every picture to load
dump defences or mobility
i have the las pistol skin it was in a dual pack with recon lasgun skin
moveset? h1l1?
loop heavy
you should check out the vet guide btw
path made it
it's in the pinned section of the chat
which one is it? if i go to preview it its a different colour scheme
see shoulder and chest armor colour
report it and find out
lmao
they screwed up last rotation w/ the helbore too
gave the helbore flashlight and holosight in the preview by accident
I hope it's the left one
Fashiontide
Why cant they make good skins? Aside from Robot ones everything is so bad its insane. Just reskined old stuff....
FUCK IT LETS BALL
VENT PURGE HI INTENSITY SNIPER SPAM ON AURIC HERESY
CONSIGNMENT YARD FTW
EXECUTIONER STANCE AND PLASMA LETS DO IT
TBF there is still a sizeable gaming population that would rather pay one off for a game with good gameplay rather than burn more money on cosmetics.
the other side of the coin is: are there game developers who'd rather work on good gameplay instead of getting easy money by churning out skins ?
I also feel the Krieg/Steel Legion/Necromunda Enforcer outfits have done them justice enough. They can be swell - when they want to be.
- Is that a fffff'in blue?
- Angry Joe
And then you get the devs who are absolutely schizophrenic; focusing on one side of the coin on a good day, the other side on a bad day.
(Which is good/bad, I leave for readers to judge)
so far only Helldivers devs
apart from Fartshart
TBF its different people working on those things.
who else is there
