veteran-class

[tropic notch]

That’s the only build I run with vet

[wet ether]

its quite useful

[elder fiber]

Can get away with demo team only on smokes if its easier for pathing imo

[umbral scaffold]

what the dumpstat on the duelling sword?

[tropic notch]

I thought about taking field improv and getting demo

[tropic notch]

Mobility for dps or cleave damage for mobility

I’d dump mobility

[frank basin]

That’s what the pin said

[elder fiber]

I'm completely over field improv, had enough of chodes using it to gobble up every ammo box charge to spam nades poorly

[umbral scaffold]

yeah ima go with that

[tropic notch]

[sleek garden]

i have been trying smokes tonight and there is an appreciable difference

[tropic notch]

I just use medkits for myself

[wet ether]

i do have a meta build as well as a shooter build

[sleek garden]

i drop a medkit when i see biggest man down at 30 hp from 400

or when everyone is half or at the start of a horde

i like to use my equipment

[analog yacht]

nade regen is like, by far the best option of the 3

kill zone is a meme tho

[sleek garden]

kill zone works surprisingly often

but i take the one that stops stuns at shield break

[tropic notch]

I never really got into vets gunplay I always used my range for elites or specs

[analog yacht]

the issue is it's not reliable to proc like say agile engagement

so you can't rely on it for breakpoints

and any extra damage that doesn't hit a breakpoint is wasted

[tropic notch]

Some people actually treat it as left 4 dead and mag dump everything

[sleek garden]

not if your team is shooting at it

[wet ether]

Got called annoying as well lol cause I was encouraging my teammates who got downed that they can do better

[sleek garden]

oh lord

auric maelstrom right now is mostly melee all scab

no ammo

[frank basin]

Hey, if you see me with 500 hp you better hide it.

Because boy is really hungry with that medshun

[wet ether]

sign me the fuck up

[frank basin]

Zealot easy game

[analog yacht]

there's an objectively correct answer and nobody is gonna like it, not even me

m1 psyker is the highest dps in the game and is infinite ammo

[wet ether]

oh god why my friend

[tall torrent]

It just is lol

[austere mica]

It also hurts to play physically

[analog yacht]

especially in no ammo all melee elites

[wet ether]

also change name thy it hurts to see that

[analog yacht]

it's also incredibly annoying to play with an m1 psyker

like even beyond them just deleting everything

[austere mica]

see what

whose name

[wet ether]

@frank basindis

[frank basin]

What about me?

[analog yacht]

desperately looking for a way out of incriminating himself and points to a random bystander

[frank basin]

What’s going on?

[wet ether]

change thy name it got pizza in it and its making me hungry

[frank basin]

Oh

You’re typical registered loser want me?

[austere mica]

Azure got very close to being shot yesterday too

[wet ether]

what the hell you mean i got close to being shot yesterday

[austere mica]

oh sorry 2 days ago

[analog yacht]

lol

[wet ether]

ugh thanks allot @frank basin now i have actually ordered pizza

[frank basin]

hot and spicy

[austere mica]

What kind

I will judge you

[sleek garden]

a mutie just threw me into a med station

[frank basin]

HE ORDER THY PINAPPLE PIZZARIA

[frank basin]

Thank him

[sleek garden]

i am become servitor distributor of medicae

[wet ether]

this

[frank basin]

He did

This motherucker did it

[austere mica]

Pineapple on pizza is good

[frank basin]

Yeah other didn’t appreciate it

I assume they gonna call you out

[verbal burrow]

I don't think we should be glorifying making mistakes that cost lives. Manpower is a resource and like any resource it should be shepherded.

[austere mica]

So we shouldn't glorify most of american military history? damn right

[faint beacon]

Personally I think we should view any military history as a learning process of "lets not do that again"

[verbal burrow]

yes but somehow some people don't get that hint

So you need to occasionally bonk

[umbral scaffold]

try tell that to the leaders and their die-hard fanatics lol

[frank basin]

The “I’ll fucking do it again in new way”

@wet ether why you took my warframe joke seriously?

[wet ether]

how many times have i nearly shot myself in the foot exactly also i'll tell y'all how dominos pineapple pizza tastes once it arrives

[frank basin]

That was Có-creator Rebecca Ford almost call millions player “registered lose-… players”

[raven carbon]

what infantry autogun do you all recommend?

[tall torrent]

V or VIII
I is not bad either but it plays more like a marksman-type weapon that care a lot about headshots, but it unfortunately has a lot of unpredictable recoil unless u go exe stance

[raven carbon]

thanks

[frank basin]

idk does inspiring presence (talent) combine inspiring barrage (blessing) get bigger toughness recharging?

[tall torrent]

No

[frank basin]

it is bugged?

or the value too small?

[tall torrent]

No

Not bugged

Working as intended

Inspiring barrage is toughness gain

Inspiring presence is toughness regen

Different things

[frank basin]

alright

so with catch a breath i make 15% total regen

[tall torrent]

What

No

CaB is also toughness gain

[frank basin]

wierd code

[tall torrent]

Just use my guide

[frank basin]

i did read it

[tall torrent]

I specify things very clearly

[frank basin]

the one never is the inspiring presence

[tall torrent]

Yea because it’s horrible

[frank basin]

do you wish make it 25%?

[tall torrent]

No

Just delete it

Because coherency regen is not good

[frank basin]

and the curios?

what's different?

[tall torrent]

?

[frank basin]

the 30% regeneration speed

is that gain or regen?

[tall torrent]

Regen

Just read my guide

Again, I specified this all very clearly

[frank basin]

i guess that go 100%

3 30% with that are double speed tougness regeneration

[tall torrent]

Still isn’t good

Not for veteran at the very least

[frank basin]

One thing that people didn't know that am stubborn to do something. 🤷‍♂️

[pastel zealot]

Wait, isn't the Regen speed just how fast the activation is?

Not how fast it'll regenerate

?

[severe gale]

its both

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305

from this guide

[undone jungle]

it's fantastic on a premade

but pubs? frankly not that useful

if you can coordinate in a premade and have your zealot throw out fire nades with 100% sustain for an entire event it can feel amazing and really worth

but the extra fast healing and nades just get wasted on pubs

especially since healing is already wasted on pubs by ogryns sitting on the medipacks not realising their fat arse is draining the entire charge

sometimes i cant even blame them when it's placed poorly

[uncut pebble]

It's either the ogryn not realizing what they're doing or the smiteker that keeps taking damage because they suck that eats up the whole damn medipack.

[slow spade]

My favorite is pugs placing kits and boxes in elevators

AKA right before a med station and resupply

[uncut pebble]

That shit enrages me.

Especially if it's a field improv vet.

The road to hell might be paved with good intentions, but damn, man, we don't need a medipack down literally 40 seconds away from a medicae station.

At least check the charges before you decide to use it.

[slow spade]

I try to nab any medkits I see

Better I hold it then trust a pug lol

[frank ether]

I usually hoard them till the end of mission

because

well

forgor

[frank basin]

This seem fit for squad leader; stay close the toughness regen delay shorter and faster regeneration; for inspiring presence

The charm talent boost aura coherency

[slow spade]

I hold them in case we need them

Thankfully, I've never felt the need to panic drop a medkit too often

Outside of "oops all ragers" events

[verbal burrow]

It is strange to see someone else suffer in this way for a change.

[verbal burrow]

I am a toughness vet and even I consider coherency regen to be unreliable and slow at best

[frank basin]

rare build ogryn using "stay close" aura that kick it up.

[verbal burrow]

Even then

Max out your toughness capacity, toughness damage resistance and toughness gain from actions. Do not rely on coherency regen

[frank basin]

it is you believe teammate always stray away most time?

[verbal burrow]

No it’s that even with all the possible improvements to coherency regeneration, you are still better off getting toughness from other sources

The curio perks being toughness, health, and ability cooldown reduction is a far better deal for a voice of command vet. I can tank a Crusher overhead to the face in isolation, and I get and give toughness from a ton of things

But now I sleep

[frank basin]

did not impress me

[stoic thorn]

How I deadass look at my teammates killing poxies while me (downed) and another vet (dogged) fucking die

[frank basin]

the unfortunate event

[stoic thorn]

Was hard carrying

They died just at the boss elevator to a tox flamer

And a sniper

Lesson learnt

Don't assume your dumbass teammates are moving up with you

[trim tiger]

dont get downed

[stoic thorn]

Try not to get downed while getting boxed in by a Bulwark and multiple chaff

With a crusher getting up from the ground

And plasma at 100%

[trim tiger]

plasma user detected

[deft crystal]

SO at 10 stacks of weapon spec

[regal smelt]

i had an ogryn wait till a dog was 2 ticks away from killing me to save me, and then he missed the shot. he was using a kickback

[deft crystal]

+krak

u do

[stoic thorn]

Used my last shredder to TRY to kill the poxies

[deft crystal]

dis

[stoic thorn]

Turns out there were more

[deft crystal]

138.6k boss dmg

[stoic thorn]

So my zealot and 3rd vet

They were fighting the pox horde

While 10 metres away we were dyin

[frank basin]

i remember i queue up 4 vet, it run well

[stoic thorn]

Can't rely on quick play teammates for shit

I am losing so much faith in my race

[frank basin]

it happened to me

i was losing a lot that time grinding plasteel

and am bored playing darktide

[covert folio]

Do you need to have the bolt pistol out while throwing a nade to get increased explosion radius from lethal prox?

[frank basin]

nah, is passive

[umbral scaffold]

thats hard to do

boxed in by chaff and bosses okay but bulwarks arent that much of a deal

[wooden moat]

js a single krak or frag is good

[somber onyx]

do yal llike demo expert or field improv

i lprefer field improv

[tall torrent]

If you run frags, take demo stockpile + demo team if possible

Outside of frags, usually stockpile is enough
Field improv comes down to how many luxury points you have left at the end of the build

[serene bough]

i take both

i think if youre gonna go for demo stockpile (which you almost always should) then you should give a point to grab field improv, but builds & point distribution will vary

[tropic abyss]

stockpile > field improv

if you have the points then do get both, but if you have to choose, then pick stockpile

unless you're running smoke for some reason

[hollow ibex]

i rarely end up having points left for field improv

[tropic abyss]

same

it's a nice to have but not necessary

[languid estuary]

how much bonus melee dmg does the dueling sword need from vet tree

[gilded wraith]

That juicy, juicy melee damage to crit node pathing.

[earnest bone]

That 10% melee damage opens like 3 important breakpoints for my DS4 and in current build i can't take it arghhhhh

cuz IMA A GRENADEEERR

[wet ether]

really boss i thought field improv provides allot more team benefits than demo team

[earnest bone]

on MS/Aurics Demo Team value is tremendous

at that point it's better to drop twinned blast

tho i wouldn't do it

Its luck dependant, but there been times i generated 0 > 6 grenades

from a single (elite mutants/dogs/etc all at once) encounter

and if we look at value from entire match its great

[tall torrent]

nah, only 2 builds outside of veteran may care about demo team's grenade pickup function and while it's nice, it's just not much more than a luxury pick

[earnest bone]

FS please gives us 2 or 5 more points

level 35 cap when

[wet ether]

twin blast sucks why would you even take it to begin with

like once apon a time it was good

[earnest bone]

it's not that bad, it's okay, but if you gonna throw like 30-40+ grenades per match, could pick it up

[wet ether]

my man are you seeing your own texts ever since the changes to twin blast which by the by wasn't needed

it hasn't being good

[earnest bone]

have you seen zealot tree

it's filled with useless garbage

it's not that bad on the side of veteran

[wet ether]

yes i know it is

[earnest bone]

[wet ether]

dont try and change the subject

[earnest bone]

Well, Fatshark balance once a year at best

what can you do there

and the balance patch is over

see you october 2025

[wet ether]

twin blast before it got changed was good now it goes from either left to right instead of it being slightly curved

[earnest bone]

there's also garbage stuff like this one

that no one uses

if this was universal for both melee + ranged damage

it would be amazing

Rending Strikers value would also increase with the buff on that one

[wet ether]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-kujo-jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-yare-yare-gif-17833234

[grand perch]

i have like 2 builds out of 15 that use field improv, and nuke ogryns on my team just refuse to spam some nukes with it 😦

even when i tell them to

[frank ether]

I think its fine that rending and brittle aren't too easy to stack up on

but tbh I'm just a hater of armor classes largely losing their meaning

[dry cloak]

Ogryb with pickaxe

Two shoting everything except bosses

[earnest bone]

pickaxe capable of oneshotting tho

[dry cloak]

I know

Im talking grey one max stats

And no perks

[narrow bay]

If this was for Ranged it would be as unhinged as onslaught which is already too much

[wet ether]

made a sorta weird build

also yes no precision strikes

[earnest bone]

[earnest bone]

that hurts a lot tbh

universal 30% weakspot (ranged/melee)

[final hamlet]

it's a neat perk, or is the 30% a lie, because how damage is calculated?

[earnest bone]

It's low/meh when it's 10%, but 30% is noticeable

[wet ether]

i mean i'm mucking around with randoms builds

[final hamlet]

Is the Frag-Grenade worth it?
For Horde? but they usually get taken down quickly anyway.
A purpose could be to boost Zealot and Ogryn Talents?

[earnest bone]

Frag Grenade is for mixed hordes or rager hordes or shotgunner hordes if you are far away and can't respond quickly enough

[hollow ibex]

It’s very good

You can either use it for utility to clear out space

Or you can use it for damage when you drop two of them

[earnest bone]

its also a good CC tool

[hollow ibex]

It’s just an extremely useful generalist grenade

[uncut ocean]

aye, it may not really damage a crusher train but it will stagger them all. threw two and clean up.

[final hamlet]

Rager hordes are usually taken out quickly with Devils Claw, but for those Ranged Hordes, yeah, is the damage of one enough on Haz 4+?

[earnest bone]

you need two nades to kill ragers from 100 to 0 without any assistance

[hollow ibex]

You want two for elite swarms

[earnest bone]

or throw one nade and finish them in melee(or ranged)

while they are staggered

[hollow ibex]

Yeah one nade is for mild damage and good cc

Two nades is for serious damage, except against bosses and carapace

[final hamlet]

Hmm, will pick it for my ranged support Build, sounds good.
The damage perks affect the bleed damage?

[hollow ibex]

Not sure but I know the bleed really benefits from having the uncanny blessing in your melee

And explosion radius is increased by lethal proximity

Which is a bolt pistol blessing

[final hamlet]

🤔 weapon perks affect grenade?

[hollow ibex]

Some blessings do idk if perks affect nades

[spice ferry]

Is supression immunity worth the point? What doesit even do?

[final hamlet]

Jo, Blessings

Dident knew the weapon Blessins affect grenades.

Wonder if they also affect Rock, or other Blitz from other classes?

[final hamlet]

It is worth it, especially when they have Gunner

If one has to choose and only has 1 perk free, might be worth over the 30% weakspot

[earnest bone]

https://primagames.com/tips/what-is-suppression-in-warhammer-40k-darktide-answered

[final hamlet]

Doesn't make weapon silent

[earnest bone]

🥔

[wet ether]

eh fuck this build right here guess i've gone back to meh original build tried and tested she is

[earnest bone]

I'd say it's useful if you are somewhat a new player

but otherwise you can save a point and play around without it

There's some niche situations it's really useful (direct heavy fire engagements vs 5 reapers + 10++ gunners), but we are so short on points

too much good stuff

[spice ferry]

Thank you guys for the info!

[tough tiger]

plenty of weapons are innately immune to suppression

i only use that immunity node when im running infantry autoguns

honestly u wont even need it if u play around cover wisely

[spice ferry]

I played without it most of my Maelstorm runs and now plaing with it. Cant see the difference really. Just slide into gunners and reapers and hold left click with my Recon Las gun

[tough tiger]

yeah exactly

it only comes into play when you're fighting things at a distance

most of the time the fight is kinda up in your face

[tall torrent]

+explosion radius effects seem to be “always active” and affect all explosions

For example, crusher & power maul’s special-activated attacks cause small explosions

That explosion is boosted by +explosion radius effects

For ogryn, that’s a talent

For zealot, lethal proximity can do it

[regal smelt]

when I tested this for a vet shredder nade build it only had the radius when I pulled the bistol back out in the psykanium. consistently had the same radius with and without it in my loadout until I actually held it, thrown in the same spot without moving

this was over a week ago when that info started to really spread about the blessing in particular

[final hamlet]

That's good to know!
Is it intentional or just, a lucky slip in the prayer chants?

[tall torrent]

It’s intentional
So far

With fatshark I’d suggest you assume every “you sure this is a bug” thing to be more of a feature

[regal smelt]

its intentional until fatshark patches it out, even if they say its intentional before doing so

my poor zealots ranged rending capability

[wet ether]

getting hit by a trapper net through a wall.....

[regal smelt]

the worst is when they pixel peek you through slits in the walls that you couldnt even shoot through

[tall torrent]

If it’s half ur body height, pretty sure that’s intended

If it’s a whole solid wall, I’ll just say

[wet ether]

it was a solid wall

[final hamlet]

Getting shot through a solid wall by a sniper..

Or those metal fences where they can shoot through, but the player can't, because it only lets projectiles from the other side through..

Also Trappers sometimes when in a certain time of their animation, they are immune to stagger and interruption.
Surviving even braced double barrel on short range

[regal smelt]

you gotta push them instead of aiming for a headshot. you'd think hitting them in the fucking head with a shovel would be a more reliable way to stop them than a shove bit it aint

that happening with the 30% impact on weakspot hit talent for zealot equipped is so stupid

[earnest bone]

until they go and say "Zealot chastise armor downgrade was a bug for 1 year, sorry, fixed now"

[regal smelt]

mistakenly gives the rending back to shroudfield instead and does nothing for a year

[frank basin]

i saw net fly under through stair on ascension in assassination torrent

[wet ether]

@tall torrent i cant decide what melee weapon would pair well with my recon las gun

[earnest bone]

if you bring onslaught, you are free to use literally everything

for better horde control you can go rashad, mk1 shovel or chainsword 4/13 (i prefer 13)

[wet ether]

to many choices

[final hamlet]

Can't push them with a shotgun on 2-3 meter distance
But I expect he atleast flinches and is not able to fire himself, but he is...

[dry cloak]

Combat axes are a safe bet.

[manic moon]

or power swords

[obsidian plover]

Oh yea first hit on power swords still not fixed after weeks

[wet ether]

this is the shovel i've gone with

[umbral scaffold]

Wait, we got red items now?

[grand perch]

No

[umbral scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060032630927671357/1280513499168116736/caption.gif

have i been swindled

[agile forge]

I like taking executioner's stance with an IAG since it's one of the few weapons that benefits a lot from every single aspect of E Stance, on every target type

Damage bonuses are more likely to give a TTK boost on a rapid fire, relatively low damage per bullet weapon; supp immunity; sway, recoil and spread reduction; it's naturally an anti-trash-shooter weapon as much as an anti-special and anti-elite

Then means you don't have to take the suppression immunity node, since E Stance is doing it for you and you have almost full uptime

[earnest bone]

automatic reflex

[wet ether]

Yes you have being

https://tenor.com/view/mirage-moon-walk-dancing-finisher-gif-24741994

[mighty flicker]

https://youtu.be/G9ofsGj975c?si=oWAhb0IgRbvwbJRS

[crimson wyvern]

🫵 You. Yes you that disconnected from a game so that when I loaded my quickplay it loaded me into the game over cutscene. To hell with you coward! Lose like a man

I took your 75 plasteel and diamantene.

[knotty veldt]

trying out a ex stance infantry las build, know other guns would prob be better but liking it anyway tho find myself struggling again the regular horde enmies in melee which melee wep do you think? Wanted something that could deal with carapace since las doesnt but also needs to do well with hordes. Been trying chain axe and love it for carapace with the bleed rev but it feels weak as hell agains hordes taking 2-3 hits to kill a basic mook

[misty turtle]

what would be a good weapon to pair with a squishy af executioner's stance enjoyer? using lasguns mostly rn

[tropic abyss]

shovel

[misty turtle]

yes

the real chad build that doesn't feel the need to hide behind a constant massive toughness boost

(or to go invis)

[knotty veldt]

for us men of culture

[misty turtle]

shovel was actually my first thought but haven't had too much success with it

haven't used it much though so that might be it

[tropic abyss]

which shovel? How are you using it?

[knotty veldt]

shovel is good at bashing around hordes but doesnt do much to carapace which i feel you need if using las gun

[misty turtle]

mk1

i just do heavy attacks when a horde gets to me

with decimator/take a swing

[tropic abyss]

then keep doing that but switch to a mk VII

special attack against carapace

if you like the mk I because of its superior A E S T H E T I C S, then abuse the poke, it's super useful

[misty turtle]

hmm

[tropic abyss]

krak grenades

I use mk I shovel and krak grenades

[misty turtle]

tbh i'd rather run away then shoot the carapace

[drowsy aspen]

Power Sword was my go-to before I became shovelpilled

[tropic abyss]

then keep the mk I and use krak nade

[drowsy aspen]

Don't underestimate the light attack spam on the Mk. 1 shovel by the way

especially not with Uncanny Strike at your disposal

[tropic abyss]

mk I shovel can definitelly kill a crusher

it's too inneficient for that

and it's safe

[drowsy aspen]

Someone here told me a long time ago- the Mk. 1 shovel with Uncanny Strike solves a lot of problems

[misty turtle]

i think i prefer frag

[drowsy aspen]

The heavies are super super useful, don't discount them either

but they're for making space or bashing around bigger targets

Pure killing, you should be clicking heads as fast as possible

[tropic abyss]

frag is for hordes, if you're using them right then you don't need a melee for hordes

[misty turtle]

yes that's the point

[drowsy aspen]

...That feels insane

[misty turtle]

i wanna shoot elites and specials

and not fight hordes

[tropic abyss]

then nuke the hordes with your nades

[drowsy aspen]

One every thirty seconds? For all hordes?

[misty turtle]

but well

i don't have any of the grenade perks

like demolition stockpile

[tropic abyss]

why not?

[misty turtle]

no points for that

[tropic abyss]

you do have Iron Will, right?

[misty turtle]

all talent points used for shoot

[tropic abyss]

if you're there, might as well grab demo team

you want to kill elites, demo team will keep you stocked up on nades as long as you do just that

[misty turtle]

well i have that, only because it leads to rending strikes and bring it down lol

[knotty veldt]

demo stockpile isnt in same area as iron will

[tropic abyss]

demo team

not stockpile

[misty turtle]

could replace iron will with demolition team but i'm not sure if that's a good trade

[tropic abyss]

no, don't replace iron will

[knotty veldt]

demo is in same area as voice of emperor where you arent going if your exe stance, its a few points out of the way

[tropic abyss]

maybe switch rending strikes to demo team

[tropic abyss]

not that demo...

[misty turtle]

well

[knotty veldt]

oh the 5% proc one nvmind

[misty turtle]

now you see why i need that weapon to take care of hordes lol

[tropic abyss]

rending strikes is for flak and carapace, you probably don't need help with flak because the enemies using it aren't that tanky and you must have plenty of extra damage

rending strikes won't save your lasgun against carapace

so might as well drop it and get demo team

then you have a nade for hordes, gun for elites and melee for carapace

[misty turtle]

i would have to break character for that though...

if you want me to play optimally i may as well drop exec stance altogether and just shout

which would be more effective sure

[tropic abyss]

I don't want you to play optimally, the game is easy enough that you don't need to worry about the meta

I'm giving you a sugestion to solve the problem you asked sugestions for

[misty turtle]

well i appreciate it

i just can't help wanting all the damage talents

no idea tbh i just shoot and watch the hit markers

but... i just want to click on carapace head

hear them say stuff like YOURE HITTING ARMOR

moments before it turns into a bloody mist

[grand perch]

mk1 shovel push attack does decent damage to crushers if you have uncanny stacks up

its very useful for all specials and elites

[final hamlet]

Duel sword?!

[misty turtle]

i've never used it once, even on the psyker

[final hamlet]

Do it

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-darktide-40k-gif-1517647893401179892

[tame lodge]

Power Sword 6

Activate Push Attack the head then light

[final stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1302348248010326096/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2024-10-24_06-37-56.mp4?ex=6729c412&is=67287292&hm=cdd8732bd1cdcc9cf695b6706562452f22b686415e2c7ce16b93f3d8796a6277&

that block break 'push'

assplants every single thing around you even crushers

when I need stamina, I've actually tried to find something to hit me and trigger it so the room shuts up for a couple seconds

I will say, it's actually kind of hard to find something to break your stamina when you want it to happen

never thought I'd say that

[drowsy aspen]

Okri I know you love this build

And it seems super cool

[final stone]

it's a honeymoon phase

[drowsy aspen]

But why share it in veteran chat

[final stone]

oh my god

I clicked the wrong channel

[drowsy aspen]

Lmaooooo

[final stone]

sorry boyos appreciate the politeness

[drowsy aspen]

No worries, I do the same pretty regularly

[full nacelle]

no, you got it right

this place could use more ogryns

[final hamlet]

To show puny soldiers how real ones fight, for the Emperor

[slow spade]

as long as the ogryns don't take MY ammo tins >:(

[dry cloak]

All ammo tins belong to gunluggers

[final stone]

APPY TA ELP SAH

[slow spade]

blocked for wrong think

[thorn lark]

Based

[slow spade]

crit build c:

[final hamlet]

for that, the weapon needs to be hold active?

or is it like #veteran-class message

🤔 wonder if this would also be "always active"?

or that

[full nacelle]

nope, lethal proximity is always active

we tested this last week

[final hamlet]

so, even if for example, I yeet the grenade, switch to melee, the lethal proximity from Bolt Pistol, would still have an effect on the explosion?!

[full nacelle]

yep! don't need to worry about weapon swapping or anything

[final hamlet]

thanks

[slow spade]

makes it cracked with Agile Engagement

as you can swap without fear

[hearty panther]

Ye lethal prox is global, who knows why

[full nacelle]

and fatshark better keep it that way

[full nacelle]

no problem!

and also, no the other blessings are not global

[hearty panther]

id fix it by just stating it's global tbh

[full nacelle]

yeah much prefer that over them screwing over my grenadier builds

[final hamlet]

Im horrible with testing this, first is with out Execution Bolt Pistol, second is with Execution Bolt Pistol (yes, tested it with psyker atm, not veteran)

[final hamlet]

could this not affect like lethal proximity does?

[hearty panther]

nope

[full nacelle]

Oh huh. Maybe? I haven't personally see any other blessings that are global.

[hearty panther]

that one does not

there's not any logic to it btw, it's just how it is lol

[final hamlet]

with the exection, Pox walker (basic meatgrinder) die at around 35% peril and 65% without Executioner

[hearty panther]

i assume there's something else going on

but ima test in a few minutes

cause that's not a 20% difference

have a smite video
https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=CcVfLzpAaDeyMXrK

since regardless i recommend not building into smite damage

[tame lodge]

But I do
So lemme know how the tests go

[hearty panther]

nope i get the same result with or without execution

within a very slight margin of error since smite damage ticks are something of a fucking mystery box tbh

but a scab shooter with naked unboosted smite does not die in a single 0-100% left click

lives with 80~hp left

and basically no change with execution

[final hamlet]

thanks for the testing!

[hearty panther]

yea i get nothing

aw shit

forgot to unequip the bolt pistol

guess this is what im using this round

[final hamlet]

on testing blessings (Combat Axe Blessing), its prob. my unskilled testing, but does this affect ranged weapons?

[hearty panther]

nothing else should

unless they havent fixed decapitator yet

[slow spade]

always funny when the game loads the wrong loadout

so you just go "I wish I knew what I was using"

[tame lodge]

Are you hinting that I could temporarily give my Helbore 120 extra finesse

[hearty panther]

if they havent fixed it yet

good luck building the stacks and then drawing and charging and firing your helbore tho

[tame lodge]

1 shot
That's all I need

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-like-a-dragon-yakuza-8-ichiban-kasuga-railgun-gif-662888261374371811

[earnest bone]

Uncanny Strike global proc (for ranged)

cmon fatshart

do it

[sleek garden]

Yes

[stoic thorn]

The talent with 5% chance for a grenade back on a

Special or elite kill

Free fucking grenades for doing my job? Sign me tf up

[hollow ibex]

Take both

[formal cradle]

so why is charge rate not dump on plasma even though ppl dont use charge?

[verbal burrow]

I will let the native English speakers explain that one since I am at work and there isn’t enough caffeine in the world to help me remember the terminology

[stoic thorn]

Something something impacts fire rate

I really don't care I just have it as the dump

I still fucking mulch elites and specials like it's breakfast with exe stance

[formal cradle]

ah ok

which keystone modifier for marksman's focus is good? Say for plasma or helbore lasgun?

took long range assassin for now since i dont know better

[grand perch]

monkeys paw wish: it does get implemented but only on shredder autopistol

...which could be amazing potentially

[earnest bone]

that would be epic trolling

[earnest bone]

im not sure

when it was still old chastise zealot with armor downgrade

even with that it takes an eternity for autopistol to kill a crusher

[grand perch]

ok. halloween event then: Psy bullets for autopistol

every hit does a brainburst

[earnest bone]

every bullet is assail

[grand perch]

i love it

[earnest bone]

i hope we'l get chaos wastes mode here

with some broken and stupid perks

[severe gale]

charge rate affects m1 fire speed still

[sleek garden]

Camo where you stand still to build stacks

[slate hawk]

it is the fellow dragon again

is good to see

[sleek garden]

Hi

I only like dragons

I'm just a person

[grand perch]

you cant fool me youre a dog

[sleek garden]

A dog?

[slate hawk]

woof

[undone jungle]

Hi furry chat

[sleek garden]

Hell no

[undone jungle]

Ohh wair

Are they called like

Scalies or something

[sleek garden]

I do not want to be associated with that group

Some of them are nice and most are really strange

[somber onyx]

Why is the plasma gun so much more fun and good than every other weapon

[hearty panther]

i mostly find it dull

[somber onyx]

I dont want to use the bum ass braced auto gun i can clear hoards with a shovel or frags i want to delete every special on the map

[sleek garden]

I use an infantry lasgun and one shot all the specialists without overheating and exploding

I like plasma as a gun where you pull it out to blast away one or two guys then go back to your melee

[tame lodge]

Give it time
You'll worn out as well

Until then

Have fun

[hollow ibex]

plasma 🥱

[trim tiger]

db ws

[buoyant thicket]

arlo tohmasson top has clipping in the forearm and it pisses me off

[faint beacon]

Scrolls up

Sees “hello furry chat”

Day ruined

[tall torrent]

Plasma, focus target
Helbore, depends, either focus target or marksman’s focus

[sleek garden]

Basically

[jovial aurora]

guud game

[umbral scaffold]

how do you feel about infantry lasguns?

[odd sparrow]

they are fine

[tough flower]

Infantry Lasguns are probably okay, but Recon and Helbore are so much better/more specialized

[jovial aurora]

just a quick question why don't you recommend blaze away with gets hot for plasma?

[sleek garden]

I like them

you can kit them to do pretty crazy headshot damage

[hearty panther]

infantry lasguns are the vanilla ice cream of our ranged options

[umbral scaffold]

tried and true :3

[sleek garden]

It's nobody's favorite but it's always tasty

[tall torrent]

because optimized cooling is minimum 3 extra shots with blaze away for 3 more shots at 140% strength, it scales better for mabdumping/monster dps set-up

gets hot is mainly for crit 1 bodyshot breakpoints on gunners & flamers, it's a "better consistency" pick because nobody hits headshot 100% of the time

[umbral scaffold]

gonna get meself one

it's good to go back to basics once in a while

[sleek garden]

Personally I like following up a 1.2k damage headshot with another 1.2k damage headshot

[umbral scaffold]

of course with fullauto mod because I hate clicking 4000 times in a row

[sleek garden]

Depends

Their fire rate is not super high unless you're using the blue one

[umbral scaffold]

what is your fav lasgun?

[sleek garden]

I like the green lasgun I forget the name

[ocean moat]

infantry lasgun is so nice whe you can land all those juicy crunch headshots

[sleek garden]

mgia or something

[ocean moat]

i like the one thats in the middle

[sleek garden]

The middle one

[ocean moat]

not the slow asf one

[umbral scaffold]

I'm partially colorblind I don't fucking know which one is green >: (

[ocean moat]

not the peashooter

[sleek garden]

it's the mid tier one

It's the most solid looking one no bits sticking off

[hollow ibex]

the fast one is an experience

highly recommend trying it

[sleek garden]

the fast one I like it because they still do good headshot damage and kill shooters

[hollow ibex]

at full rpm, it's the parkinsons experience

reticle bouncing everywhere

[ocean moat]

i havent tried it with the new it em system (only had a midtier roll)

[sleek garden]

I don't actually fire it full auto like that

I just use it as a really high capacity lasgun

[jovial aurora]

fair enough

thanks for explaining

[sleek garden]

I think it's mgIa

The mgx or whatever 3 hit bodyshots ragers or one shots to the head I like it

[umbral scaffold]

also I think vraks VII is pretty fun

[tall torrent]

it's graia VII now

bunch of name changes

[unborn ridge]

whats the best blessings for the knife to deal a sht ton of dmg

[hearty panther]

precog, riposte

[faint beacon]

Agripinaa 9 HHA being untouched name wise minus the weapon category

Truly living in a timeline

[unborn ridge]

those two are really situational

[tall torrent]

highest dmg potential is precog + mercy killer
but most people aren't insane enough to run that

[hearty panther]

im leaaaaving, on a timeliiiine

[tall torrent]

2nd highest is precog + riposte

if u want a super safe anti-armor pick, go uncanny

[hearty panther]

and yea you are dodging basically all the time in active combat

so its not that bad a condition

[tall torrent]

riposte isn't

precog 2s uptime is questionable yes
riposte is 20% M.crit chance for 6s, it's basically always up whenever u need it

[hearty panther]

i personally do riposte + flesh tearer a lot or precog + ft if im already critmaxxing

once you get your practice down a crit means the target will be dead from bleed and you just leave em

[unborn ridge]

what about uncanny strike

[tall torrent]

safe, strong, boring

[hearty panther]

pretty much

[unborn ridge]

cuz i see people stomping on carapace enemies and bosses with the knife

[tall torrent]

uncanny is not the best for boss but it's very safe for carapace

[unborn ridge]

what about executor

[tall torrent]

not that bad for mk6

but for single target it can drop

[hearty panther]

you gotta be learned to do it though

[faint beacon]

One of the most disgusting combos you can do with it that’s Vet exclusive

Is Uncanny + Mercy with Serrated Blade talent

Cause bleed gets effected by Uncanny

[unborn ridge]

i see

and you heavy bosses with it?

[faint beacon]

It locks you into a very specific build though

[tall torrent]

yea

heavy atk, weakspot hit boss

[hearty panther]

i agree its disgusting but perhaps not in the way you meant

[severe gale]

mercy killer is basically precog but like

easier to actuvate

right?

precog + mercy killer when..

[faint beacon]

The moment they start bleeding it’s up

[tall torrent]

not just easier, it's much more consistent

[severe gale]

yea that’s what i meant

[tall torrent]

it's very high dmg when u have the rythm down

[faint beacon]

I like running Uncanny + Mercy Serrated

[hearty panther]

and no cause mercy is weakspot only

[faint beacon]

Cause I DONT

[tall torrent]

but the point tax is immaculate

[severe gale]

mmm 120% finesse damage

yummers

[faint beacon]

want to hit only body shots

[severe gale]

oh that’s true

[faint beacon]

I aim head level only

[tall torrent]

somehow still lower than precog + duellist

[severe gale]

but if ur using knife

[tall torrent]

[severe gale]

u should be hitting heads

[severe gale]

no? precog duelist is 110%

precog is 60, duelist is 50

[faint beacon]

Uncanny + Lacerate is the main reason why

It’s stupid that it’s actually effective

And hate that

[tall torrent]

duellist is 50% weakspot (interacts with crit weakspot) and 50% crit bonus (interacts with crit weakspot)

so it ends up being 160% on a crit weakspot hit

[severe gale]

eh

true i suppose

[hearty panther]

maffs

[severe gale]

but vet still reaches 140, right? with desperado

desperado is 10%

crit weakspot is 20%

[tall torrent]

if u go precision strikes (obv) + desperado (obv) + precog + mercy it's higher

but that build is gonna have like

INSANE point tax

[severe gale]

what’s precision strikes again

i do not rember

[faint beacon]

30% Weakspot dmg

[tall torrent]

30% weakspot finesse, all weapons

[faint beacon]

I feel like it’s mandatory

[severe gale]

oh right

yea

[severe gale]

yarp

mm conditionless 40% finesse

yummers

[tall torrent]

what 40%

desperado is +25% melee total finesse

so it's 30% for ranged, 55% for melee

[severe gale]

oh i thought it was 10% lol

lmfao

[faint beacon]

Look I like it cause it makes my HHAs kill better okay

Smh

[severe gale]

that’s worse

that’s just duelist but

no dodge requirement

[tall torrent]

That’s lower than duellist overall, just no conditions

[severe gale]

and you take those talents on most every build anyway

[tall torrent]

Which fits veteran better

[tall torrent]

Not necessarily

Depends on gun

[severe gale]

most every build

not every

but most

[faint beacon]

Also take into consideration veteran suffers from low stam regen

Always take that into consideration

[severe gale]

vet should suffer more

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s base stats are so much worse than zealot’s base stats lol

[hearty panther]

it used to be 1.25s delay

mfer smoked a pack a day

soloing a chaos spawn as a vet was a fucken ordeal lmao

[severe gale]

it wasn’t for me

but like

yall stay safe though

[hearty panther]

pre-trees?

[severe gale]

(i’ve never really tried)

[hearty panther]

ah

[faint beacon]

When base stats actually mattered

[severe gale]

lmfao

yeah

i slowly have been starting to agree with dorn

patch 13 and its consequences have been a disaster for darktide

[tall torrent]

Nah

[hearty panther]

definitely not

[faint beacon]

Veteran getting mollywhopped by CS

[tall torrent]

I think it’s mostly just zealot tree that needs changes, and ogryn needs >3 good weapons

[severe gale]

i think patch 13 was great but

the balancing was thrown wayyy off

and they still haven’t fixed auric spawns

(because it’s intentional)

:(

[faint beacon]

I have a feeling it’s either intended or it’s a back burner fix cause they’re trying to rework Zealot then Ogryn before worrying about that

[severe gale]

they just need to turn the tension modifier up more to bandaid fix it, if it’s a deeper issue

[terse idol]

Is that the latest patch?

[hearty panther]

fix what spawns

[faint beacon]

Patch 13

[severe gale]

patch 13 was when talent trees were added

[terse idol]

Oh new talents

Uhhhh

[severe gale]

auric spawns, no more timed hordes, less elite packs,

[terse idol]

I disagree
I mean sure the balance was way off

[severe gale]

overall less enemies compared to before

[terse idol]

But like

The balance pre-patch 13

🥹

[severe gale]

balance has always been

a bit bad

[terse idol]

It's playable

Even if like

Psyker rn is cray

The difficulty of balancing 4 classes with many multiple permutations of talents and TRYING to balance all of this in consideration with weapon balancing

[severe gale]

me personally

i could do it

but yknow

[terse idol]

[severe gale]

that’s jus me

[terse idol]

Built different

[severe gale]

rhats the sticker i meant

[hearty panther]

there's really only a few things in the game right now where it's literally the numbers that are fucked up

plasma gun, kickback comes to mind

but for most everything else it's code or implementation

[tall torrent]

Reduce plasma cleave by 90%

Kickback uhh idk, smth smth minimum pellet count

[slow spade]

make the plasma explode on hit UwU

[hearty panther]

psyker left click spam isnt something you 'fix' by just making it do 0 damage

and smyker right click spam means introducing a new mechanic that hard-stops overuse

[tall torrent]

Smite and staff m1 needs like, gradually increasing peril generation

[hearty panther]

staff m1 just needs an internal cooldown lol

[severe gale]

and remove safety from uncharged

and add more cleave to charged shots

[tall torrent]

More cleave to charged shots wouldn’t do Jack shit

It’s already 100 cleave

[hearty panther]

you could half the intended fire rate and break macros, and then just double its damage to compensate and that'd be fine

[severe gale]

oh i meant like, post reducing cleave by 90%

[tall torrent]

Charged shots need better ammo efficiency

[tall torrent]

Nah I think even -90%, at 10 cleave it’s still very high for a ranged weapon

Left click would be 5 which is cleaving through 1 gunner/dreg rager or 2 shotgunners/flamers/trappers

[hearty panther]

and heat needs to matter

[tall torrent]

And cannot cleave through scab rager/mauler at all

[tall torrent]

It’s just removing auto-vent from left click

I think charged shots need better ammo efficiency and maybe better damage

Because it’s like the “thrust” equivalent for plasma guns

[severe gale]

bow weapon when

[tall torrent]

Funny how every “thrust” equivalent in this game is ass

[hearty panther]

i know im the odd one out for wanting them to return to health damage when venting

[tall torrent]

Nah that’s cringe

[hearty panther]

but really all i want is for it to feel like im making an impactful choice if i go high heat

[candid agate]

no

[tall torrent]

I think u could do either

[hearty panther]

cause right now it doesnt matter at all

[tall torrent]

Removing auto-vent completely

Or, making auto-vent damage health

But regular venting should not damage health

[severe gale]

make it RNG if it blows up or not

accurate to table top

[tall torrent]

Cringe

[severe gale]

funny

[hearty panther]

when u vent it starts reciting greentext posts in a microsoft sam voice

[grand perch]

every shot over 50% heat, you hear a d6 roll, and if it comes up 1...

[orchid hemlock]

how hard am I coping with this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c4013c8-2411-40b7-b11b-d7dca0c52b62/healing-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

🤔

@tall torrent

[tall torrent]

Reciprocity doesn’t matter much for either of those 2 weapons

[orchid hemlock]

i thought all autguns like crit

[tall torrent]

No

Vraks V and Columnus VIII infantry autoguns
All 3 vigilant autoguns

That’s about it

[orchid hemlock]

alright, fixed then

are there any melee weapons that give toughness? 🤔

[tall torrent]

This is a certified “I don’t have an answer for crusher waves” build

[broken spade]

technically all of them

[tall torrent]

Yea
Not on veteran

[broken spade]

get melee kills and you get toughness

[orchid hemlock]

i can replace the shovel with a PS or DS

[hearty panther]

confident strike for chainswords when

[tall torrent]

Confident strike (ogryn)
Momentum (zealot & ogryn)
Slow & steady (ogryn)

[orchid hemlock]

i guess I dont need frags, but frags are decent at generating toughness

ig DS it is

[hearty panther]

oh shit i forgot i bought cookies yesterday

fuck yea

thank u past me

[orchid hemlock]

gimmie

[hearty panther]

get yer OWN godDAMN COOKIES

[orchid hemlock]

😭

[hearty panther]

-horrific animal noises, climbs up wall into corner-

new place opened up a block away from me

wanted to try em out

[tame lodge]

Karking Slow and Steady proccing on barrels

[regal belfry]

i want a bolt pistol skin but the current one is boring

[hearty panther]

i miss when the candle obstructed the front sight

now that shit was dedication to the bit

[regal belfry]

that shouts zealot

[hearty panther]

SCREAMS, actually

[regal belfry]

maybe i should copy yarrick

but i would preffer the zealot screamer

cause i use it mostly on zealot

i gonna lv now double barrel shotgun

good i have this one

[unborn ridge]

do people enjoy braced autoguns

the acuraccy seems pretty sht

[hearty panther]

thats cause it is

but it has volume

[unborn ridge]

if u use it

with the keep their heads down

basicly u cc entire hordes with supression?

btw im using the serrated steel with the mercy killer and other blessing

the shts do dmg

but ive seen a zealot oneshot stuff

[hearty panther]

yea it has a lot of suppression

its just a different style, where you close in before dumping into bodies

[regal belfry]

is fun though

double barrel is likely not mine

[unborn ridge]

feels weird

[regal belfry]

do you think they gonna buff the shredder pistol

[hearty panther]

probably, eventually

[unborn ridge]

the thing is doesnt infantry have the same

cc that braced has

[regal belfry]

i think to burn some mats for it and the dbshotty

[unborn ridge]

are u supposed to aim with braced it takes a bit

[hearty panther]

only one of them you wanna brace

i dont know these new fucken names man 😦

for the guns

[regal belfry]

would it be weird to sacrafice mats for boosting weapons

have 2m ordocks and 130k plasteel

[hollow ibex]

Nah

Good way to skip annoying grinds

[regal belfry]

i gonna do only two they feel not nice to use for me

db shotty and shredder pistol

combat shotty i used the slug one

was like a sniper with it

[unborn ridge]

which one hte one that shoots fast?

[hearty panther]

two have the same rof, but one of those two shoots faster when braced

[dry cloak]

Graia braces ahoota faster when braces

[hollow ibex]

Agri braced better anyway

[orchid hemlock]

Ur mom Braced is better

So I went on normal damnation today

It was a trip 😓

[hearty panther]

i always try to queue up a regular Damnation maelstrom

keeps you humble

[orchid hemlock]

Probably because of this video

https://youtu.be/hLiwfHrVQnc?si=vbgqW-c0pKbT3Ivi

😔

[regal belfry]

do you know when the magistratum bp gonna come back

[unborn ridge]

wait so its graia or agri

[orchid hemlock]

Graia

It also increases accuracy after a certain point of firing

[tall torrent]

It tightens spread after reading max spread expansion

But it’s still not that accurate for long range

[unborn ridge]

thats good

atleast it hits sht on medium

others miss everythng

[dreamy ginkgo]

you forgot that graia has more ammo ☝️ 🤓

[orchid hemlock]

Longshot viable on Braced??!?!!? 😔 😔 😔 😔 8899

[unborn ridge]

so graia is the best overall lol

[tall torrent]

Nah, agripinaa VIII

[grand perch]

cleave is powerful but graia go brrrrrt

for me its a toss up

[unborn ridge]

agripina misses everythng

and brace takes too long

[tall torrent]

You don’t take brace autoguns for long range in the first place

[unborn ridge]

ik

but even medium range

it misses everythng

xD

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa is quite accurate if you don’t hold m1

[unborn ridge]

i tap with it then?

[tall torrent]

Small bursts

[unborn ridge]

is it even worth bracing with it?

[tall torrent]

Also exe stance Agripinaa VIII is a real thing and it works

[orchid hemlock]

What other ranged weapons generate toughness? 🤔

[soft trellis]

generally no

[grand perch]

mamas la chancla

[tall torrent]

Anything with gloryhunter/inspiring barrage

[soft trellis]

The only brauto that really gets any benefit from bracing it is the graia brauto

[slow spade]

I use bracing when I want to do long range shots

as the first shot or so is surprisingly accurate

[orchid hemlock]

What about lazpistol?

[soft trellis]

There are times you can brace it, yeah, but generally you don't want to brace the agripinaa

[unborn ridge]

so agripina

[manic moon]

brautos are the weapon family where you just ask yourself why tf does this even exists along with headhunters

[unborn ridge]

is close range spread full

[tall torrent]

Laspistol has 3.5 good blessings and reassuringly accurate is not really one of them

[soft trellis]

the only brauto with stopping power as a main stat, instead of a hidden stat

[unborn ridge]

medium to large range u brace

and do bursts?

[tall torrent]

V.auto is fine tbh
I wish their maniac damage was better

[manic moon]

no, its a close range wep

[orchid hemlock]

For toughness generating is Graia or Agri better? 🤔

[manic moon]

its literally designed to melee range +1

[unborn ridge]

im saying because see veteran said it can actually do goodd medium range

[tall torrent]

For toughness generation u take a gloryhunter plasma gun

[unborn ridge]

with bursts

[hollow ibex]

At long range you don’t even need to brace. Just do single shots

[manic moon]

anything beyond 8m is a diceroll regardless of how good your aim is

[orchid hemlock]

Too easy 😔

[hollow ibex]

Agri is very accurate with single shots even at very long range

[manic moon]

and at that point you can take 5 different weps which does the same just 10x better

[unborn ridge]

i dont know why would u use agri melee

if u have rashas and other melees

._.

[manic moon]

like again , you can use it, you can do even maelstroms with it , its just the design phylosoophy behind it

[unborn ridge]

that dont take 3 sec to reload

sec

2

[manic moon]

you make a close range barrage weapon with an ammo economy of a long range artillery

[hollow ibex]

Well taking braced guns is mostly for fun

It’s still important to be aware that your gun can indeed reliably snipe that specialist at 40 meters

[unborn ridge]

what do u guys think about

agri infantry

[manic moon]

ye but its not even fun thats the problem

it doesnt even have any interesting blessing or synergy with it

[hollow ibex]

Fun is subjective

[manic moon]

the brace mode is like the most generic "shoot more" thing

[hollow ibex]

I like spraying brrrrrt into a group of heretics

[manic moon]

something something gungryn

now gungryn is fun

[hollow ibex]

It’s good. A bit overshadowed by vraks v though

[dry cloak]

Vraks 5 is shiiiit

[orchid hemlock]

What's a great Bolt build?

[dry cloak]

Exe stance mag dump build

[manic moon]

ammo aura -> shout -> exec is the fun one

shout -> tag is the better one

[orchid hemlock]

I wanted to see a tree if possible

[tall torrent]

Heavy sword + Boltgun

[orchid hemlock]

U need rending on the bolt gun?

[dry cloak]

It helps

[tall torrent]

No, it’s for heavy sword

[slow spade]

a personal suggestion would be to drop the twin frags node for the "allies can see highlighted enemies" upgrade for exec stance

[hollow ibex]

Wait is that the suppression node that you’re taking?

[slow spade]

heavy sword and carapce

[tall torrent]

If u run smth like power sword, go marksman instead

[orchid hemlock]

Also why suppression?

[hollow ibex]

Fuck my allies

[tall torrent]

Nah, that node only lasts 5s regardless of exe stance uptime

[hollow ibex]

I don’t want them stealing the kills I need for exec

[tall torrent]

Yea

[hollow ibex]

Why tho 🤔

[slow spade]

yeah but even 5 sec to see around helps