#veteran-class

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hollow ibex
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curios?

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imo either 2 tough, 1 hp, or 2 hp, 1 tough

unborn ridge
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yeah that

tall torrent
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It’s in the guide

arctic rampart
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dont sleep on 1 +3 stamina

wraith spire
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what about 3 +3 stamina?

arctic rampart
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I wouldn't but I guess it depends on how much of a deadshot enthusiast you are lul

wraith spire
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aah you got me

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gotta get that 25% crit chance gambling fix

gray finch
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ok ammo dump or charge rate dump ?

tall torrent
past field
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currently what is the best blessing combo for plasma gun?

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blaze away + ?

slow spade
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Blaze Away + Rising Heat

gilded wraith
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Does "Out For Blood" have any nifty synergies with any other talents?

potent canyon
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Born Leader and Tunnel Vision come to mind

gilded wraith
gilded wraith
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Pray for me:

tall torrent
gilded wraith
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Unfortunate

serene bough
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F

tall torrent
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not the worst

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only 1% change

gilded wraith
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Yeah, just being picky.

pale pecan
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So

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For Heavy Sword Vet

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Currently I'm running

tall torrent
# pale pecan

Works
If u care about mutant 1HS without any headtaker stacks, swap elite to maniac

wild vortex
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is there something Heavy Sword does exceptionally well?

tall torrent
wild vortex
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how do you get 1hit rager?

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h1 on the head?

tall torrent
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needs some headtaker stacks

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I think 3?

wild vortex
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I see

tall torrent
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if u go maniac

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I think this is my veteran weapons ranking list

ocean moat
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whats the main difference between the heavy sword mks

ocean moat
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like what is good at what

pale pecan
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I understand HS now

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it is your longsword

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from VT

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Role wise

ocean moat
tropic abyss
tall torrent
spice ferry
supple stag
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supple stag
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You break my heart

tall torrent
tropic abyss
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should be higher

tall torrent
tall torrent
tropic abyss
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because I like it

tall torrent
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Cool

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Good for u buddy

hearty panther
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facts

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rework your tier list this instant

tall torrent
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Nah

ocean moat
hearty panther
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shovel obviously goes in S tier, since S stands for shovel

ocean moat
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peak shovel gameplay

tropic abyss
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1 is the best

tall torrent
slow spade
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man fucking flamer tank explosion did 50 damage to me lol

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flamers pls

tropic abyss
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I > VII >>> III

tall torrent
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Mk1 ≈ Mk7 > Mk3

hearty panther
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p much

ocean moat
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nah yall are wrong 3 is the best (i rarely play the other mks)

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(heavily biased)

hearty panther
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3 sadly has nothing going for it

tropic abyss
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ease yourself into the VII and eventually graduate to the king of shovels, the mark I

wild vortex
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I love that no matter what game you play, tier lists never fail to generate debate

ocean moat
tall torrent
unborn ridge
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is brittleness good?

tall torrent
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I’ve not seen a single fact-based reason as to why a weapon should be higher/lower

tall torrent
unborn ridge
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for vraks

tall torrent
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unborn ridge
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the best one the mark 5

tall torrent
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Which talent

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Onslaught?

unborn ridge
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yy

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tried to add it with rending

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as it shoots faster

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but it kinda needssome point investment

supple stag
# tall torrent What

Agri inf autogun is my favourite out of inf autoguns so placing it in decent tier just hurts

tall torrent
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Ok so the thought process goes like this

Do you have a strong anti-armor melee weapon?
Yes -> no onslaught
No -> Do you want to use a strong anti-armor melee weapon but it costs talent points to be optimal?
Yes -> spend those points on melee, don’t run onslaught
No -> Do you really want to magdump crushers with your gun?
Yes, with Vraks V -> run onslaught
Yes, but doesn’t have to be Vraks V -> Boltgun + executioner’s stance
No -> what are you doing?

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@unborn ridge

unborn ridge
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XD

orchid hemlock
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U forgot about my recon cope

unborn ridge
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the rashad isnt a anti armor melee is it

supple stag
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It can do well

orchid hemlock
supple stag
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It's rashad after all xd

tall torrent
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supple stag
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It's not gonna be dueling sword level of armor damage, but it's still good

tall torrent
unborn ridge
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lmao

supple stag
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I see, thanks Cat with a cabbage on the head

severe gale
tall torrent
supple stag
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Or whatever that veggie is called

severe gale
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trust!!

unborn ridge
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what about rending

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what does rending do

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and running rending and onslaught is good?

severe gale
orchid hemlock
unborn ridge
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so armor reduction and armor pierce

tall torrent
unborn ridge
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is it kinda overkill

severe gale
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but it’s OP on zealot lol

tall torrent
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because we unfortunately don't have FotF

tall torrent
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depending on set-up

supple stag
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Knowing his melee damage potential

unborn ridge
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is this bad?

frank basin
tall torrent
unborn ridge
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XD

supple stag
supple stag
orchid hemlock
tall torrent
orchid hemlock
unborn ridge
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also good souls

orchid hemlock
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I dont trust pubs to give me ammo

tall torrent
faint beacon
orchid hemlock
tall torrent
unborn ridge
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dmg wise how good is recon

orchid hemlock
tall torrent
tall torrent
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Also cannot 2HS gunner, period

earnest bone
orchid hemlock
tall torrent
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Also cannot 1HS Dreg shotgunner even on crit

orchid hemlock
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decisions

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but ammo

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
unborn ridge
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dum dum better?

tall torrent
unborn ridge
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god that youtuber build scammed

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who wouldve guessed

tall torrent
orchid hemlock
orchid hemlock
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but in this build I am investing everything on as much crit as possible

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on the talents and perks

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so it isn't needed, also I want to take advantage of onslaught

earnest bone
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and gamelantern ones

orchid hemlock
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but this build doesn't take onslaught

unborn ridge
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XD

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which one do u prefer

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urs?

orchid hemlock
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MK VIc is also more ammo eff

unborn ridge
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also for vraks

orchid hemlock
unborn ridge
orchid hemlock
unborn ridge
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yy

orchid hemlock
outer grove
frank basin
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Lmao

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Fun naming

orchid hemlock
outer grove
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jus crouch slide lol

frank basin
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I can’t do pro gamer move

pale pecan
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Rate the drip

frank basin
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I only do average slider

slow spade
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just don't get hit lmao

outer grove
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no CDR is actually crazy

outer grove
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literally the most cherished stat in the game

pale pecan
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And I

orchid hemlock
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Tanner with the nuclear takes

pale pecan
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have made him look like a tank

orchid hemlock
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has taken another victim 😔

frank basin
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Not every gamer can do crouch slide get move

outer grove
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gunners resistance is bad it only effects elites

pale pecan
orchid hemlock
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ok

outer grove
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CDR > Stam Regen > Toughness

orchid hemlock
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"guys just dodge"

outer grove
orchid hemlock
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all hail Tanner ✊🏻

outer grove
pale pecan
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I mean

outer grove
pale pecan
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That's what I ran on my vet for a while

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All Toughness then those perks

outer grove
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CDR and go for specials

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so you can just spam voice of command

pale pecan
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Rn I'm using a mix of hp and toughness for the sniper pb breakpoints

outer grove
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take deadshot and you'll oneshot everything basically with a bolt pistol / revolver ect

severe gale
pale pecan
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I'm using a storm bolter c'mon chadgryn

outer grove
outer grove
pale pecan
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Gunner resist is kinda bad yea

slow spade
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Gunner resist is bad because that implies gunners exist

severe gale
pale pecan
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A lot of the specific resist nodes are not worth it

severe gale
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:3

slow spade
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I've never seen a gunner before

outer grove
severe gale
tall torrent
outer grove
severe gale
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lol

tall torrent
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But

slow spade
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you go all in with sprint effi

outer grove
slow spade
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or not at all

orchid hemlock
tall torrent
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A single sprint efficiency isn’t that impactful tbh

pale pecan
soft trellis
outer grove
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if your not abusing your ultimate your not playing right

pale pecan
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Plus

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I am malding over the 2 handed power swords lately

soft trellis
outer grove
orchid hemlock
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literally hyper copes it on every video 💀

orchid hemlock
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1 SE is bad

outer grove
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vs i cant slide away from a gunner

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lol

outer grove
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you are literally invulnerable from ranged attacks when sliding

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fyi

soft trellis
pale pecan
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Like

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I want

outer grove
tall torrent
# outer grove

I don’t get it, is this supposed to be a flex of some kind

pale pecan
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my two handed power sword

orchid hemlock
slow spade
frank basin
pale pecan
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I wish I could ammo burst with the bolter like the good ol' days

outer grove
soft trellis
orchid hemlock
pale pecan
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Back when the Shredder SMG ruled

frank basin
pale pecan
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Dropping 2 full mags of bolter fire nonstop was so fun

severe gale
orchid hemlock
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lmao but why

frank basin
outer grove
orchid hemlock
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also, dont u need to slide in a specifc direction to dodge range?

frank basin
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quack

outer grove
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and regen your toughness on kills

pale pecan
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If they ever add a vet keystone that makes us all have 1 continuous magazine

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God

outer grove
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as you mark and drop them

slow spade
pale pecan
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That would be fucked

soft trellis
outer grove
frank basin
orchid hemlock
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but like, there are situations where u literally cannot dodge, specially when u are cornered

outer grove
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slide and shoot is a mechanic

frank basin
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Old Dạy we have feats called sustain fire “press ability reload weapon instantly”

severe gale
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malice’s strongest warrior,…

pale pecan
soft trellis
pale pecan
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Have a keystone that makes all your guns have one giant magazine, but overheat as you shoot them.

gilded wraith
# outer grove

Is that an auric? The total group damage looks really light.

frank basin
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That’s for hellgun

outer grove
soft trellis
severe gale
# outer grove yes

taking that little damage in a game with that few spawns isn’t really a flex lol

slow spade
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it looks like a heresy game

severe gale
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yeah

slow spade
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judging from the resources

outer grove
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with Auric T4

gilded wraith
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New mission maybe?

outer grove
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was*

orchid hemlock
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I mean CDR has value assuming you spam your ability off cooldown

But you shouldn't be doing that on VOC all the time

severe gale
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heresy’s strongest warrior..

outer grove
orchid hemlock
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VOC's value isn't just for preventing damage it can be used as a CC tool or a reseting toughness tool

outer grove
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you realize it does more then +toughness right

slow spade
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it also sounds cool c:

wild vortex
gilded wraith
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Or, as a make Nurgle spit out Krunk tool.

soft trellis
slow sky
orchid hemlock
outer grove
slow sky
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You may cast it for the toughness off cd but then 3 seconds later want it to stagger something dangerous

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Which you would have had

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If you didn't spam it off cd

outer grove
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its already dead from being tagged and bagged

soft trellis
unborn ridge
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bomber resists

severe gale
unborn ridge
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spam on curios

outer grove
unborn ridge
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lol

orchid hemlock
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the power of VOC is that u can have 0 toughness, and just scream into the void and all of it comes back

outer grove
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auric tho

soft trellis
unborn ridge
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3x bomber dmg reduction

tall torrent
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I don’t think posting a 123 score rating scoreboard proves anything tbh

outer grove
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they know flanking routes ect.

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are firmilar with the game

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its good if your bad

soft trellis
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What do you say Cole? lol

orchid hemlock
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guys we are all shit players

outer grove
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many options

slow sky
# outer grove gunners are 0 threat to good players

Yeah cuz I know that 49% dr against the most common elite makes me less in danger of chip damage and also gives me the ability to be in positions that I otherwise couldn't further opening my options on how I approach an encounter

outer grove
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I used to use it too guys

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dont worry

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its not good though

severe gale
outer grove
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if your dying to gunners your the problem

jaunty rune
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Damn i guess being boxed in by heavy metal and hordes never happens and i can dodge gunners forever

outer grove
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they fire into the backs of there comrades

slow sky
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I have a video somewhere where I am fighting a chaos spawn and multiple gunners are laying into me and I just don't care about them cuz they're tickling me

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So I just ignore them and kill the cspawn

outer grove
jaunty rune
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Not always in level ground

slow sky
outer grove
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2 krak grenades, a knife user, a thunderhamer.

wild vortex
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am I witnessing another one of those thinly veiled "I'm right and anyone who disagrees is bad at the game" arguments? loregryn

severe gale
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yes basically

soft trellis
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Yep

outer grove
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Gunner Resistance is bad yeah

soft trellis
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Smoke is too stubborn to understand anything

outer grove
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like terrible actually

soft trellis
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Sad to see people like that

orchid hemlock
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guys hang on let me dodge when I have 0 stamina, no dodges left, have a spawn on top of me, 20 maulers behind me

outer grove
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and a +2-3 stam curio

slow sky
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I take 3x gun resist 3x toughness 3x stam regen on zealot and vet

slow sky
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Not a 2

outer grove
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CDR is better than Gun Res

orchid hemlock
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you can apply "just dodge" to anything in this game at the best case scenario

the point of curios is to deal with the worst case scenario

outer grove
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by miles

faint beacon
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The sniper instantly flicking and shooting the 9+ stam user with 0 warning:

jaunty rune
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Actually yeah just run +9 stam, cdr, stam regen, sprint because getting hit means im bad.

faint beacon
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Free revives at least

outer grove
soft trellis
orchid hemlock
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also, if there are enough gunners on you, you actually can't dodge faster enough to be immune to every bullet

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even if u have unlimited stamina

soft trellis
frank basin
orchid hemlock
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never get hit

hollow ibex
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lol @ this ogryn triggering DH, quitting immediately, and then after the DH kills me, rejoining

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cherry on top

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guess what build he was using 🙂

faint beacon
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Could report them lmao

outer grove
soft trellis
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Love how we poke 1 hole in his arguement and he just says "...." before going silent

faint beacon
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They can get banned for it

hollow ibex
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i posted it on the forums

hollow ibex
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but only in the bug section

orchid hemlock
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💀

faint beacon
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I summon you

soft trellis
orchid hemlock
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wait

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he only is getting shot by one gunner 💀

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i didn't even realize

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ONLY ONE GUNNER IS ON HIM

outer grove
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i've played a good 1000hrs both darktide and vermintide but sure

orchid hemlock
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LMAO

outer grove
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its an example

jaunty rune
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Yes because the rest dont even see him yet

outer grove
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and hes right

orchid hemlock
faint beacon
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Make sure to avoid uncanny guys

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It’s shit

wild vortex
orchid hemlock
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this is literally the most riggied experiment I have ever seen in my life 💀

orchid hemlock
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just spawn 20 gunners in the same location, and try to dodge them all

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that's all he needed to do

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not even worst case scnerio

frank basin
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I’ll go sniper resist when I’m busting horde trashing

outer grove
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maybe practice more in the psychanium

jaunty rune
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And he got shot at by literally 1 gunner because the others are not aggroed

frank basin
orchid hemlock
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Tanner literally makes the worst tests in existence

wild vortex
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someone needs to explain to me how that video is not absolute nonsense, because I don't get it. He spawns 20 gunners and it seems only 1 targets him and he still takes hits while going. So idk what this proves.

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can someone more experienced tell me what I'm not getting

orchid hemlock
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this is why he needs to learn how to edit his videos 💀

frank basin
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He just pure raw video

sleek garden
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the only pass ill give him is that i assume he means health damage

wild vortex
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ok not 1 targeting him, probably like 5, but still

sleek garden
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he didnt even need to dodge slide

faint beacon
orchid hemlock
sleek garden
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he just needed to run in a straight line

orchid hemlock
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unless u have 0 toughness

faint beacon
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In a vacuum

outer grove
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?

soft trellis
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"You can see by how I am not getting shot by all of these 20 1 gunner, therefore gunner resist isn't useful"

outer grove
severe gale
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i knew it

outer grove
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lol

frank basin
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Yes he is

outer grove
frank basin
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Bait

wild vortex
tough flower
faint beacon
outer grove
soft trellis
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Funny, watching people fall for his content

orchid hemlock
wild vortex
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not even close to 20

orchid hemlock
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amazing

tough flower
frank basin
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You took tanner bait

soft trellis
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oh my... he can dodge 4 gunners

orchid hemlock
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but the point Im making is at times he is only dodging 1

soft trellis
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and still gets hit

severe gale
orchid hemlock
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then 2

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then 3-4

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never all of them at once

outer grove
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I already posted my 13 damage game lol

faint beacon
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Also In a Vacuum

wild vortex
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and correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen multiple gunner spawns without being accompanied by other mixed hordes trying to hem you in

severe gale
orchid hemlock
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also, the range spread makes it so that every gunner is missing more than others

severe gale
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lol

soft trellis
orchid hemlock
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if u stood still, the gunners at the back will miss more than the ones in the front

faint beacon
outer grove
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Auric T4

faint beacon
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But chaffe usually accompany them

faint beacon
orchid hemlock
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if he wanted to make a worst case scnerio, he should have created a perfect circle of gunners around him and he attempts to dodge them inside the circle

soft trellis
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Wow... heresy auric... so impressive...

frank basin
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At the tram station

tall torrent
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@outer grove do u actually know the ° angle required for sprint ranged attack immunity at the very least

jaunty rune
# outer grove

This was the section after the clip you showed where we pointed out it was 1 gunner shooting at him dont be dishonest

sleek garden
orchid hemlock
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also another thing I noticed is that Tanner runs away from the gunners so he creates more distance between himself and the gunners 🤔

tall torrent
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Cuz I don’t think you’d hold any authority on speaking of “is gunner resist good” if you don’t even have that knowledge

outer grove
faint beacon
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Maelstrom Damnation when you ummm umm 20 damage :)))

wild vortex
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I've never seen them like, by themselves

outer grove
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as an ogryn

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to prove to you

faint beacon
wild vortex
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even if there's a group in a corner, it's usually accompanied by trash hordes and some ragers/maulers

outer grove
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how pointless gunner res is

faint beacon
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Consider yourself lucky Sar

frank basin
faint beacon
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Lmao it’s hell

sleek garden
soft trellis
sleek garden
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there are so many times where i have turned a corner and been lit up

outer grove
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lol okay.

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an ogryn with the largest hitbox

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can jus sprint out of it

soft trellis
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"obviously because they could dodge gunners in this once instance gunner resist isn't useful"

outer grove
hearty panther
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gunner resist isnt useful

severe gale
sleek garden
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here is where i try with gunners in a giant circle around me instead of a small group

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i get turned into mince

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you can hear me dodge some of t hem as i run but i can't dodge it all

soft trellis
# sleek garden

your toughness held up so long, do you have 3 20% gunner resists?

faint beacon
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Gunner resist is bad cause… it’s just bad okay!

orchid hemlock
sleek garden
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ok

faint beacon
sleek garden
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if i do it as vet i will get instantly shredded though

slow sky
soft trellis
slow sky
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So they're the only one that counts

sleek garden
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i havent touched my curious in a super long time

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so i actually have no idea what they do for me

soft trellis
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I mean you could go to the crate

sleek garden
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i have two gunner resistance things on it

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yeah

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i should take one off

faint beacon
frank basin
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I one run as ogryn in gloriana the multiple gunner like 4-6 around me shooting at me chipping health quite fast

soft trellis
sleek garden
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i already swapped to veteran

soft trellis
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heh

soft trellis
sleek garden
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the point wasn't to show my gunner resistance though it was like

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you cant escape all bullets

frank basin
sleek garden
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but normally shooters are meant to stack up behind stuff facing you one way so you have the option to run sideways

wild vortex
soft trellis
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Gotta love how they went silent

wild vortex
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(I am bad regardless, I am memeing)

soft trellis
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I know lol

frank basin
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Maybe once I get home I’ll hop on test it, but I think next 3-4 hour

sleek garden
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if i use ghost and exec stance i wont get shot

soft trellis
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It's funny seeing fragile arguements get broken

sleek garden
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but im just gonna try and outrun gunners

frank basin
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Smoke is gone

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Not really gone forever

sleek garden
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actually thats so wise

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let me try one with and without smoke nades

frank basin
soft trellis
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Didn't take him long to start trusting tanner lol

sleek garden
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3 gunners in front of me

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i didnt dodge slide til near the end

frank basin
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I do use smoke when me and my team dealing trash melee while we have shooter and gunner distance

jaunty rune
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I remember trusting tanner for all of 1 day then i visit the cord for real info

frank basin
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That one time in gloriana

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Smoke save our asses

soft trellis
jaunty rune
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I played since vt1

wild vortex
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who is this Tanner anyway

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youtuber?

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streamer?

soft trellis
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watching these baiters is just fun stuff on the side

sleek garden
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it works pretty well

frank basin
soft trellis
wild vortex
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ah ok

frank basin
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He was abrasive at first but he changed his attitude

sleek garden
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let me let them start shooting before i pop the smoke now

soft trellis
jaunty rune
sleek garden
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if you disappear into smoke they keep shooting for a moment

sleek garden
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id say its definitely worth the addon for smoke

jaunty rune
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Point taxes make me feel pain

sleek garden
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this is my only build with smoke its my rolling steel silly loadout

jaunty rune
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I dont think its silly when snipers spawn at the other end of the train

sleek garden
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i think snipers actually aim through smoke

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but the shotgun is okay at that range

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i love the shotgun for doing this

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i know we all know about this by now but its still fun

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also how fast you can whip out the sword and parry

weary peak
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thanks in advance

steep vault
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ya wanna join me there?

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I think tanner's advice are good but the people here...

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they don't appreciate him

sleek garden
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also gunners get more innacurate and i think do less damage the further away you get

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i have to get in a certain range in the psykhanium to let them see me

faint beacon
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Suppressing them also makes them shoot more wildly

sleek garden
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but in the game they'll probably be aware of you already

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actually im testing and they briefly stop shooting if you shoot near them

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for like

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the duration of the trigger pull

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but if thats true interesting

steep vault
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The video showed him in an open environment w/ nothing obscuring movement

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now put that into a small room w/ a horde

jaunty rune
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Or some bombers 🙂

soft trellis
steep vault
sleek garden
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here i test some gunners with suppression its quite a big video i wonder if i can compress them somehow

soft trellis
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How much gunner resist do you have?

sleek garden
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near the end you see his shots zero in

steep vault
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I thought they put this in the tutorial

sleek garden
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i did not

steep vault
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the part w/ cover and suppression in advanced training

sleek garden
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the tutorial says that you will make them run for cover and stop returning fire in suppression

soft trellis
steep vault
sleek garden
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nothing about specifically gunners becoming innacturate

steep vault
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all ranged enemies

soft trellis
sleek garden
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no the advanced training not the intro mission

soft trellis
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I know what you mean

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I forgot everything in that thing ages ago lol

steep vault
sleek garden
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a lot of people here never did it

soft trellis
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at least once or twice

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maybe 3 times...

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doesn't mean I remember jack shit from it lol

sleek garden
#

the amount of people ive met who didnt know about push attacks is crazy

steep vault
#

I think the fact that they have suppression based blessings also helped me w/ it

sleek garden
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its the second thing in advanced training

jaunty rune
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I woulda forgot about push attacks in the tutorial if i didnt play vt

soft trellis
sleek garden
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ive played with people in this discord who didnt know

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my friend didnt know either

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the sections on ranged and suppression as a refresher

steep vault
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Thank god

sleek garden
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notice that it doesnt exactly mention enemies becoming innacurate

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only that they stop shooting and seek cover

sleek garden
#

rolling steel in in auric damnation

sleek garden
#

i gotta do it

sleek garden
# severe gale they do

it says they flinch, becoming suppressed and that suppressed enemies will not fire back

severe gale
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they do become less accurate

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it’s most noticeable with reapers

sleek garden
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i know this now

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it is very useful information

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its just not specifically called out in advanced training is all

grand perch
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i only ever revisited the tutorial once, when several people claimed it tells you about the veteran specific ability to crouch behind cover and then brace on top of it when aiming

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it does not, in fact, mention that class ability anywhere

grand perch
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yes. hang on let me dig up my vid

soft trellis
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That's actually pretty neat

tame lodge
grand perch
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you can see the weapon snaps just above cover when aiming at the cover itself

tame lodge
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When you create a new character and is at the class selection screen
It'll tell you

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Sort of

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Might need to scroll down

soft trellis
#

Honestly I prefer veteran to psyker, but, that's because I can get higher amounts of toughness more easily >.>

grand perch
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that means it might as well be an occult secret . i just wish it was useful, enemies still hit you rather well when peeking this way

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if it gave TDR or immunity to suppression, that would make it occasionally useful

soft trellis
tame lodge
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And gunners could knock you back away from cover

soft trellis
#

Welp christmas candy is out, and now solid santa chocolate bars are available >.>'

hearty panther
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... the chocolate bar is ... made of santa?

ancient path
#

idk if i like deadshot in auric damnation lmfao

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need my stamina

grand perch
#

with which weapon?

ancient path
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i use it with most of my autogun builds

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so mk1 and the single shot one

hearty panther
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i too dont care for deadshot

tame lodge
grand perch
#

infantry autogun is probably a bad idea, but """"vigilant""" single shot one is quite good with it

ancient path
#

but me getting bopped by a burster when i was out of stam going for a shove kinda hurts my soul 😩

#

but i think im gonna level up my lasgun mk ix next so

grand perch
#

deadshot is basically never a must have pick, outside of builds that aim for maximum ammo efficiency with shock trooper

hearty panther
#

you couldve stopped with that first clause

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deadshot is never a must pick

grand perch
#

so its usually best to leave it out and spend the points elsewhere, since it usually comes with stamina talent point tax

ancient path
#

do you guys play marksman focus with the las gun?

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mk ix

grand perch
hearty panther
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you will only get disagreement from me lmao

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helbore especially is one i want to love using deadshot with, but i cant shake the fact that a not-insignificant amount of my stamina is being drained just charging my shots up

soft trellis
grand perch
#

with consistent headshots and the MF stamina regen node, it basically cancels out

hearty panther
#

and vet tree is (comically, sadly) at a point where losing stamina to get 25% crit chance is actually 'weak'

#

since reciprocity exists

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wepspec exists

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opening salvo exists

soft trellis
#

manstopper deadshot db shotty lol

hearty panther
#

its real silly

ancient path
#

though it feels weird that the vigilant autoguns and mk xi lasguns are kind of the same thing abut lasguns come with bullet refunding

hearty panther
#

shocktrooper is just a bad node, design wise, imo

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its all the same pitfalls that survivalist aura was creating for the game but now it's specific to one class of weapon because ???

slow spade
#

Shocktrooper for all guns when? UwU

hearty panther
#

and yeah thats the problem right there lol

soft trellis
#

shocktrooper for melee weapons when?

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I gotta reload my heavy sword!

hearty panther
#

why are only lasguns allowed to have infinite ammo? they arent exactly lacking in efficacy

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just bayd

soft trellis
#

Maybe it's more for recon lasguns?

slow spade
#

well Helbore is pretty bad without it

hearty panther
#

exactly

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which is why the node is bad

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you shouldnt need to crutch on one node to make weapons work

wild matrix
#

how do you add attatchments to guns?

slow spade
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Weapon Customization Mod

hearty panther
#

and if that node existing prevents balancing weapons appropriately

#

then fuck that node

slow spade
hearty panther
#

i do hate brutal momentum

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but i will also say that weapons that have it are not strictly stuck using only it to be functional

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although im sure people will disagree

wild matrix
slow spade
#

I personally just want to see what happens if Brutal Momentum just suddenly disappeared

grand perch
#

you can absolutely play lasweapons without shocktrooper

wild matrix
#

thank you

grand perch
#

its not a must pick tax

slow spade
ancient path
#

and i guess mk ix infantry lasgun vs mk vii vigilant autogun is just preference

grand perch
#

kinda but not really, since ilas has access to ghost blessing, which makes a huge difference when dealing with a wall of gunners

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also ilas gets inverse damage falloff, enemies that are closer take less damage from it. autoguns have normal falloff

worldly pulsar
#

What on earth is the rationalization for that?

grand perch
#

yeah dunno, scifi laser isnt focused until a few meters out or some shit

hearty panther
#

pew increases in inverse relation to distance traveled

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because uh ... energy

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yea

worldly pulsar
#

Ah yes, of course, energy.

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Silly me. KEKW_ogryn

hearty panther
#

its been 3500hrs for me and i still cant turn off the part of my brain that goes "wtf" when i see a chainsword so

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its just that kind of universe

bold patrol
#

i love plasma gun it go burr

frank ether
#

I can't take this game and its rtarded stutters anymore dude

worldly pulsar
#

Bruh

grand perch
hearty panther
#

what even is that

lusty sapphire
grand perch
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I think it's mentioned in the ciaphas cain novels

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HERO OF THE IMPERIUM

lusty sapphire
#

In melee???

orchid hemlock
worldly pulsar
#

No and I hate you

grand perch
#

A lot of people that auto loot anyway

grand perch
ancient path
#

how do you guys like Covering Fire?

lusty sapphire
ancient path
#

word

lusty sapphire
#

Rather than powering up people you should also focus on killing things that can kill you

ancient path
#

thats fair

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and now i look up heavy sword stuff

slow spade
#

AKA you should kill your teammates so they can't flamer/barrel you thumbsup_ogryn

fleet garden
#

two veterans walk into a bar

radiant chasm
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There is no counter

fleet garden
#

FOR CADIA

steep vault
#

vigilant has everything ilas has but efficency and infernus

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it has surgical and crucian as an exchange

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Main problem w/ vigil rn is maniac damage

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the burst interaction w/ headhunter (the blessing) and deadly accurate is considerable tho

sleek garden
#

these smokes are

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actually useful

unborn ridge
#

isnt deadshot made for zarona builds

sleek garden
unborn ridge
#

u guys seem to really enjoy bolter

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but which one the pistol or the other one

hollow ibex
#

bolter typically refers to the full sized one

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spearhead boltgun

sleek garden
#

i was using bolter as an example

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you could also autogn

verbal burrow
ancient path
#

yeeea

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thats what i like it for. but for bolter

verbal burrow
hearty panther
#

man, i dont want a haircut

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but fuck me this hair

ancient path
#

imagine having hair

hearty panther
#

too much hair!!

manic panther
hearty panther
#

time to begin my max payne 3 arc

manic panther
#

winter arc

hearty panther
#

see that's the thing it's gonna be cold soon

manic panther
#

be a man, embrace the cold

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you will be a battle hardened man in spring

hearty panther
#

i dont wanna

unborn ridge
#

haircut is like 60% ur face beauty

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if u want poussy

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gotta get a nice cut

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g

hearty panther
#

i was cut at birth

manic panther
#

sounds like someone who has an ugly face

hearty panther
#

look i already had to suffer through twink death

unborn ridge
hearty panther
#

this hair is all i have left

unborn ridge
#

just go bald

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they like it

manic panther
#

bangs

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elvis presley haircut

unborn ridge
#

trump cut

manic panther
#

based

verbal burrow
ancient path
#

i lost mine at cadia

verbal burrow
#

Mood

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We will build a brand new Cadia. New Cadia. And it shall be very Cadian

verbal burrow
ancient path
#

yall just ever

buoyant thicket
#

yo what the fuck is this

#

same gun

#

depending if you view it in weapon select or on your character it changes mobility stat

#

?

buoyant thicket
#

so does this have 61% or 60% mobility??? im confused

ancient path
#

i scream and ran

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fortunately there was no commissar nearby

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(i ran to get a better position to not immediately get exploded by 15 poxbursters)

ancient path
#

lmfao

buoyant thicket
#

I got a power sword with good stats what blessings are the best for it?

ancient path
#

i like rampage and power cycler

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power cycler feels like its neccessary because power sword nerfs

buoyant thicket
#

cool

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thanks

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now time to see if the enemies still float through walls and the server disconnects me after joining a mission

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darktide servers are shitting themselves this week

hollow ibex
slow spade
hollow ibex
#

you could never guess it!

slow spade
ancient path
#

i enjoy the shock maul but you can def feel its 'pretty good in all spaces but not a specialized melee weapon' moments

ancient path
#

still a fun weapon

orchid hemlock
hollow ibex
#

i actually have no idea, went back to check the scoreboard, but for some reason it's not saved

hearty panther
#

"wow shock maul is pretty good why dont i use it more"
-monstrosity shows up-
"oh yea"

tropic abyss
#

I've never used the shock maul

hollow ibex
#

it's aight

verbal burrow
#

The poxburster sound is enough to force me to start running towards it specifically to push it

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Much to my detriment given everything else around

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But I must bully poxbursters

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Yesterday there was one in the walls and I was just aggressively sniffing the door until something bonked my skull from behind

hearty panther
#

yea there's a sound cue specific to when the burster is armed

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and that's when you wanna push

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fun fact you dont even have to face them for the push to work

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so all you need is that sound cue

verbal burrow
#

Ye but I am so pavlov trained to push them that I start running straight for them the moment I visually or aurally notice their existence

trim tiger
hearty panther
#

same tbh lmao

verbal burrow
hearty panther
#

i so badly wanna bully bursters

nova timber
#

anyone wanna grind with me on dream team achievement?

trim tiger
#

lfg

verbal burrow
#

What is the dream team achievement?

primal zealot
#

If you scroll down you’ll notice there are several Lfg channels organized by region

nova timber
#

do 100 no downs on a mission

verbal burrow
#

no downs?

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you mean skill issuing?

trim tiger
#

100 what lol

primal zealot
#

100 missions with anyone going down

hearty panther
#

its not consecutive

nova timber
#

100 missions without anyone being down

hearty panther
#

just keep playing

verbal burrow
#

I'm gonna play cutie zealot today so I'm 100% going down

primal zealot
nova timber
#

theres no difficulty restriction

#

just orthos offensive grind on uprising

trim tiger
dusty nacelle
#

Hi! what's a good boltergun skillt ree build?

trim tiger
hearty panther
#

survivalist, xstance, focus target

nova timber
#

i'm starting at 46 on dream team achievement

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it'll be quick on orthos offensive

tropic abyss
#

what's the justification for bursters anyway?

#

did papa nurgle promisse 76 diseased virgins for them in the warp after they burst or what?

hearty panther
#

yes

elder fiber
#

nah they just drank too many energy drinks

verbal burrow
#

There isn't really one. Chaos influence overrides common sense

tropic abyss
#

if the heretics had thought of putting bombs on dogs with finicky hitboxes they'd already have ended the war

hearty panther
#

bursthounds would be fun

wet ether
#

when the next rotation of commadores ventures?

frank basin
#

That basically like Ukrainian drone bomber

#

Something speed and explosive like squig bomber

verbal burrow
#

Arch explained it pretty well in a video about the siege of Vraks.

At first a housewife might pray for strength for her husband to resist the off-world invaders at a shrine to khorne.

Then as the warp's influence increases she instead starts praying for him to kill as many as possible.

Then as the warp's influence increases she might start praying for combatants, including her husband, to die, to maximize the blood spilled.

Then as the warp's influence increases the notion of staying behind the battle lines instead of charging Death Korps lines with no training or serious equipment eventually becomes as intolerable to her as the existence of a Beast of Nurgle is to a Krak veteran with a damage stim

pastel zealot
#

what blessings for antax?

tropic abyss
#

they put food under tanks from them till they learned to crawn under tanks, then put explosives on them and let them loose on battlefields

verbal burrow
tall torrent
tropic abyss
#

I think it was in the first season of global warfare, might have been in the sequel

verbal burrow
#

I think you're thinking of the Soviet Union, but that wasn't the Great War, that was the sequel episode

tropic abyss
#

might have been

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either way, doggos went boom

pastel zealot
#

is decimator and headtaker what goes on Antax?

verbal burrow
#

The TLDR is that most Normal people call it WW1 and WW2. Meanwhile the Bri'ish sometimes still call WW1 the Great War due to a generational big mood. Meanwhile the Russians try to pretend WW2 is called the Great Patriotic War because they like to pretend that they carried it solo

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Then when you exit the lala land that is Russian history school books and reality sinks in, it looks more like

tropic abyss
#

I know that, I just don't recall which one it was

verbal burrow
#

If you are British, then WW1 is the Great War. If you are Russian, then WW2 is the Great War. If you are literally anyone else, then WW1 is WW1 and WW2 is WW2

nova timber
#

orthos offensive secret will just take like 5 minutes each on dream team achievement

terse idol
#

It didn't really work

#

Some testing showed that the dogs would just run back to friendly tanks KEKW_ogryn

hearty panther
#

or anything tank-like

terse idol
#

Yeepers

#

The military tries crazy stuff, but alot of it just isn't logistically sound

soft hound
wet ether
#

ugh someone told me to "calm down its just a quickplay"

soft hound
#

what difficulty?

wet ether
soft hound
#

yeah that's rough

wet ether
tropic notch
#

Heavy sword on vet is fun

umbral scaffold
#

could someone review my build rq?

tropic notch
austere mica
#

Sure

umbral scaffold
#

idk if that link works

tropic notch
#

How often do you rely on Nades?

umbral scaffold
#

alot tbh

#

mainly bosses

#

there great in a pinch with any ogryns too

tropic notch
#

The ds should deal with any boss and that lasgun

#

One moment

wet ether
#

starting to see why i hate not having nade regen

umbral scaffold
#

thank you

tropic notch
wet ether
#

nade regen on smokes y'all probs think i'm crazy

tropic notch
#

No need for uncanny on the ds either it already has a ton of pen

tropic notch
#

Infiltrate

frank basin
tropic notch
#

I do too with mercy killer knife

wet ether