gameplay first, sorry
#veteran-class
uncut pebble
I'm telling everyone involved with this conversation that it is probably going to wind up with somebody getting banned if it continues.
Don't say you weren't warned.
uncut pebble
Shouldn't be discussed at all.
woven oak
Representation = good. Bad writing = frustrating.
uncut pebble
It's a violation of rules #4 and #11.
earnest bone
Well, if it flops, it flops, there goes my new Mass Effect.
meanwhile we have like 3 weeks left before FS go on vacation
wet ether
I do hope for another mass effect but at the rate BioWare is going
earnest bone
will we see an update?
we should, but the content probably isn't gonna be big
otherwise there would be announcement already
full nacelle
I can live with that I suppose
wet ether
Would it be to much to ask the devs to give us vets a revolver style nade launcher?
earnest bone
Would it be to much to ask the devs to give us vets a revolver style nade launch...
does it exist in WH 40k universe tho?
all weps need to be authentic
wet ether
does it exist in WH 40k universe tho?
I believe so yes
full nacelle
I want a crossbow
obviously I know nothing about 40k lore
but it would be kind of sick
earnest bone
wet ether
@full nacelle
full nacelle
siiiick
uncut pebble
No it's real.
Like there are machine guns invented around the time of ww1 that were mag fed upside down.
full nacelle
tbh I wouldn't mind if they put Vet on the backburner and focused on the other classes weapons
I have 20 vet builds and like 3 for the others
uncut pebble
I just don't understand why they used such an archaic fucking design for it when we literally have heavy bolters and autocannons that feed through belts.
earnest bone
didn't it was said in the lore
that a lot is lost technology
and they are kinda forced to use some crap stuff
uncut pebble
It would take 30 minutes to reverse engineer a belt feed system from a heavy bolter.
earnest bone
oblique sparrow
Yeah I see no reason to not use a Bolter. I just died because I was the team's only true ranged assit and the shotgun couldn't one tap snipers from a distance
uncut pebble
I GUARANTEE it's literally a fucking mg42 on the inside.
Just about every modern machine gun is an mg42 on the inside.
wet ether
Like there are machine guns invented around the time of ww1 that were mag fed up...
you're referring to the Bren LMG
uncut pebble
I dont know what the name is, I'm just stating that they existed.
full nacelle
holy crap I was curious what the analytics on my Darktide vod would be
uncut pebble
Now the argument for it being "lost technology" just doesn't make sense because a heavy bolter is right fucking there and it's effectively the same thing.
full nacelle
frank ether
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Grenade_Launcher
I hate that mag
kill that thing
full nacelle
it's a sausage fest out here boys
frank ether
burn it in fire
wet ether
I dont know what the name is, I'm just stating that they existed.
JUST TOLD YOU THE NAME BRO
uncut pebble
JUST TOLD YOU THE NAME BRO
I thought you were wording it as a question.
I've been awake for 22 hours, give me a break.
wet ether
I thought you were wording it as a question.
no you goober
full nacelle
that thing looks fucking crazy
wet ether
I thought you were wording it as a question.
bro get some sleep
uncut pebble
that thing looks fucking crazy
Believe it or not, I'm like 95% sure it's an upside down BAR.
Like internally.
wet ether
Believe it or not, I'm like 95% sure it's an upside down BAR.
goober you need sleep
uncut pebble
No we are talking about firearm design and it's something I plan on going to school for.
The making and restoration of firearms is what I exist for.
wet ether
No we are talking about firearm design and it's something I plan on going to sch...
oh shit fr?
uncut pebble
My body is a machine that turns stamped sheet metal into shitty AK clones.
full nacelle
I respect that. Love it when people get fully into their passions.
uncut pebble
There's something really pleasing about understanding a full takedown of a firearm and cleaning it to be 100% effective.
On the same side of the coin, it's unbelievably frustrating to figure out what's causing a malfunction.
lavish token
My body is a machine that turns stamped sheet metal into shitty AK clones.
Sir do you have a sot
wet ether
I respect that. Love it when people get fully into their passions.
my passion is playing video games, eating food and working out lol 
uncut pebble
Sir do you have a sot
The government can't be hurt by things they don't know.
That was a joke btw.
Laugh.
full nacelle
my passion is playing video games, eating food and working out lol <:KEKW_ogryn:...
broooooo same! 
though I did skip the gym today to eat food and play video games
I goofed up
umbral parrot
I like it but.... lol, going back to my old sword just to confuse people.
wet ether
That was a joke btw.
umbral parrot
Though the temptation to add +2 Stamina on my Power Sword is there....
uncut pebble
though I did skip the gym today to eat food and play video games
You will now gain 30 pounds and lose all muscle definition.
umbral parrot
full nacelle
You will now gain 30 pounds and lose all muscle definition.
don't matter, still cute
alright I'm going to bed
gnight sahs 
wet ether
ugh boy no extra wounds for ya boy
umbral parrot
NVM
umbral parrot
gnight sahs <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
GN~!
earnest bone
ugh boy no extra wounds for ya boy
After dying in TLOU 2, Joel isekae'd to W40k, huh
lavish token
Why do you put stamina on a melee weapon
narrow frost
oh no
lavish token
You must over use pa
narrow frost
trigger words for dorn
lavish token
Massively
narrow frost
umbral parrot
I mean, it works!
lavish token
trigger words for dorn
Go back to clicking rats
umbral parrot
Well, i guess I work....
uncut pebble
Crit chance on power sword, opinion discarded.
umbral parrot
Hmmph!
uncut pebble
I can live with stamina because of PA abuse.
But crit chance isn't necessary at all.
lavish token
Just use WS
Is the power sword even serviceable without ws
With that horrific dodge distance
uncut pebble
1, you are already going to delete everything you touch, 2, anything that could be necessary to crit, like a crusher, you're just going to PA anyway.
uncut pebble
Is the power sword even serviceable without ws
Yes, run laspistol as your secondary.
Laspistol can be drawn and used as a push if you're out of stamina from PA abuse and also serves as an excellent mobility tool and specialist dispatcher.
broken spade
I use a power sword without WS
The trick is to have VoC and shredder nades as a crutch
uncut pebble
It is my 2nd favorite vet build behind the coke addict build.
uncut pebble
I use a power sword without WS
The trick is to have VoC and shredder nades as a ...
I dont use shredders with mine.
broken spade
i run mine with plasma
umbral parrot
1, you are already going to delete everything you touch, 2, anything that could ...
You can't delete a boss with a Power Sword.
That's where Crit Chance comes into play!
umbral parrot
NVM
And Weakspot Damage. Yea, I can go Unyeilding, true. But then I would miss out on the slightly enough damage i need to kill Crushers!
faint beacon
I see Stamina and Block cost on a weapon
umbral parrot
ALSO, we're not factoring in Blessed by Nurgle buff too!
faint beacon
and I want to have someone skinned alive as an example
uncut pebble
You can't delete a boss with a Power Sword.
Yes you can.
You literally just PA spam them.
umbral parrot
Yea, but can always do it faster~!
umbral parrot
Speaking of WS, faster Crit Chance benefits from faster attack speed too~!
uncut pebble
I think I am going to throw you into an active volcano.
umbral parrot
Salamanders are my favorite Space Marines, so I should thank you.
earnest bone
I see Stamina and Block cost on a weapon
people just forgot they are logged into Darktide and not Vermintide 2
uncut pebble
Salamanders are my favorite Space Marines, so I should thank you.
Nope. Theyre mine. Find your own.
oblique sparrow
Power Swords are good
umbral parrot
They're amazing....
oblique sparrow
Don't much like them anyway.
Are you also a Thousand Sons fan?
umbral parrot
Lol
uncut pebble
Are you also a Thousand Sons fan?
Yes, I'm totally a fan of the dust-in-armor.
This one right here, commissar.
umbral parrot
Yes, I'm totally a fan of the dust-in-armor.
Bring the Vacuum.... THE HEAVY VACUUM
broken spade
And Weakspot Damage. Yea, I can go Unyeilding, true. But then I would miss out o...
unironically just run unyielding and cara
umbral parrot
Then how can i pop Maniac Rager's head!?
uncut pebble
You shoot him.
umbral parrot
If they're hugging you, you can't charge your Power Sword without getting tapped. So you have to PA him without powering it up!
umbral parrot
Oh right, i forgot i can shoot.
Hey, I love melee too much! Shooting is literally the worst part of Danktide. Does not help that i miss my shots too!
oblique sparrow
I like the shooting
broken spade
running 5% crit as your way to deal with ragers wouldn't help you that much anyways
stable sable
Is it just me or does it feel that powercycler on the powersword has a 15% to not commit to more than just the activation sweep?
uncut pebble
Hey, I love melee too much! Shooting is literally the worst part of Danktide. Do...
Have you considered hitting them, then?
umbral parrot
Where's the fun in that!? To not meet them face to face head on!? Faith and Skill vs Drugs and Heresy!? I'm putting the money on the former, me~ ❤️
Regardless, I still do my part~! +
uncut pebble
Yeah, not considering it anymore. I'm going to throw you into an active volcano.
umbral parrot
1v1 me in Darktide!
broken spade
Pretty sure i 2 shot crushers with just elites on my ps actually
umbral parrot
Can with Weakspot Damage too.
lavish token
1v1 me in Darktide!
umbral parrot
That's why i can't run my +2 Stamina
broken spade
you could actually just run elites and unyielding if you just want to deal with bosses, ragers and crushers
faint beacon
<:devilish:1084853766160916610>
The Deviously Placed Barrel on Gloriana:
umbral parrot
Yea.... but then i can't crit.
broken spade
running crit perk on power sword is just unhinged
umbral parrot
Crit has a nice orange color and a sound.
Think about it
25%~!
So if i were to swing 1000 times, I would only crit 250 of those.
Without it, 200...
See, math is amazing!
broken spade
wow so instead of critting 4 out of the 20 ragers, you crit 5 out of the 20 ragers.
I'm sure that'll stop them from killing you!
umbral parrot
Mhmm mhmm.
lavish token
Over kill so useful
broken spade
Yeah, not considering it anymore. I'm going to throw you into an active volcano.
ok do it
umbral parrot
Oh yea, got to make sure they don't get up. x3
REGARDLESS, it's fun.
I like the power sword and my build. Works wonders.
Maybe I am crazy...
earnest bone
Engaging ragers in melee is a bad idea.
unless you are a musketeer EN GARDE!
i should check if there's actually a rapier blade
for DS4
wet ether
which of the infantry las guns is the best?
uncut pebble
The green one.
Comfortable gunner 2taps.
The brown one struggles to get 1taps but it's possible.
And the blue one is icky.
uncut pebble
also forgot braindead dclaw parry spam
You can't parry 12 ragers at once.
Stamina = gone.
grand perch
And the blue one is icky.
its not its just misunderstood 😦
earnest bone
You can't parry 12 ragers at once.
with stacked wrath you can probably oneshot 3 at once
24 cleave
tho better to ask Cole
soft island
You can't parry 12 ragers at once.
Non-Psyker moment
low wagon
I didn't really pay attention before, because I have bunch of curios from before update... but are +3 stamina stamina curios still available to be bought at the shop?
And if not, how are you supposed to get them nowadays?
low wagon
probably carapace flak
analog yacht
depends which mk
analog yacht
for mk1 that's what you want but for the other two you want car flak
low wagon
isn't mk1 supremely bad one?
analog yacht
i mean yeah but this is vet chat so you never know
grand perch
mk1 is perfectly fine. the push attack is pretty strong and gives valuable single target damage, while the rest of the moveset is perfect for CC and horde clear
analog yacht
the secret is that all 3 are the supremely bad one tbh
pale pecan
?
What is this blasphemy
I still won't forgive Fat Shark for nerfing shovel but not dueling sword
They nerfed the one for one weapon but left it for another
smh
analog yacht
yeah it's not your fault for liking the weapon, it's just poorly balanced rn
pale pecan
I can't even say what they changed either cuz I don't want them to nerf DS
It's just like c'mon man 😭
analog yacht
ds4 and rashad need to be tapped down but a lot of other stuff is in a horrid spot rn
analog yacht
I mean yeah it's no sword speed wise but the way it cleans through everything is kinda unparalleled
it's fast enough that i can take nearly no damage each run
faint beacon
I don't see the rashad hype tbh
Brutal Momentum + Headtaker
Run Trench Fighter with it
Literally turn the game into fucking easy mode
analog yacht
i mean if you have ws you already have tf
as long as you aim at heads you just get 4 kills per swing
it's just absurd
faint beacon
Some builds don’t take it but Rashad genuinely should take increased melee speed
Again baby mode
It’s why I’m running shit like Shovel or Heavy Sword cause I want to have an actual weakness against something
analog yacht
idk with auric spawning waves of like 12 crushers it feels like ass to not have carapace damage
earnest bone
isn't mk1 supremely bad one?
It's good.
It's a bit worse than Rashad, but it's more fun due to higher attack speed and THE BONK
pale pecan
Brutal Momentum + Headtaker
Run Trench Fighter with it
How do you handle elites?
I was running it with the Helbore since I was trying to take advantage of that cross weapon blessing rn
Seeing that it probably isn't necessary
earnest bone
How do you handle elites?
which ones, anything dies easily and maulers and crushers are a 3headshot heavy usually
crushers 4heavies if no carapace
that's not even close to DS4(or knife), but you get a much better horde clear with rashad
pale pecan
which ones, anything dies easily and maulers and crushers are a 3headshot heavy ...
Whick Mk Hs?
I was using the 9 I think
Spamming heavies
earnest bone
Whick Mk Hs?
i mean rashad mk3
if you mean hs9
forget about carapace damage and unyelding damage
pale pecan
OH nvm
dry cloak
hs mk 6 superiority
pale pecan
I misread his og comment
earnest bone
np
earnest bone
lavish token
Just don’t sleep
faint beacon
I was using the 9 I think
H1 - Special Attack loop
Crushers and Maulers are like the only ones that are a genuine issue cause of carapace
Everything else folds
wet ether
that late huh
lavish token
Duos eat up time
austere mica
that late huh
That’s AM I think
drowsy aspen
Yea special + heavy can even do... alright damage into Carapace
I'd rather use a HS9 than a Bull Butcher, for example
I've never used the Heavy Sword 6 actually
What's it like?
earnest bone
Yea special + heavy can even do... *alright* damage into Carapace
no sir, something like 350 isn't alright
drowsy aspen
...three fifty huh
Is that with Headtaker and Deathblow and stuff?
OH - what about the rending blessing?
earnest bone
OH - what about the rending blessing?
it requires AoE to even activate and the duration is way too short sadly
earnest bone
Are you still talking about perks? Considering both carapace and unyelding damage is hot garbage theres only option of Flak + Maniac or Elites
Rending on hsword would be nice
earnest bone
I kinda like it for Flak- but by your estimation, is it worth it at all?
but if you mean Hswords as a whole, i haven't usedthem for like 5 months i think. Having both nonexistant carapace and unyelding damage hurts a lot with possible (ranged) weapons choice and perks
drowsy aspen
Unyielding? I don't recall Unyielding being particularly bad
earnest bone
Unyielding? I don't recall Unyielding being particularly bad
it is bad
try to kill bulwark with it, you'l understand
then pick rashad, knife, or ds4, etc
drowsy aspen
Ohhhh you just unlocked some memories
drowsy aspen
then pick rashad, knife, or ds4, etc
You fool- I've not run a full mission with ANY of those 
800 hours in the game and I've spent a total of 10 minutes with a knife or axe in hand
Why?
...uhhhhhhhhhhhh
earnest bone
1100+ hours and i've never used plasma or heavy bolter (aside from a few missions)
drowsy aspen
Daaang
You should try the bolter at least ngl
Plasma is kinda based to have never used
But the bolter is hella fun and not too OP
earnest bone
i did it a few runs on zealot for meme magdumps into crusher packs
drowsy aspen
Funnily enough, I typically pair Hsword and Bolter
On stealth zealot especially
For which my friends are very disappointed
earnest bone
maybe when i'l get tired from lasguns i'l give a bolter a 1+ month spin
drowsy aspen
Hell yea
It's good and fun!
...Plasma- I kinda love plasma conceptually
But its overuse makes me not want to use it
...Even though I've never found it to be that good?
earnest bone
its mostly good because of its insane cleave
+damage/ammo efficiency per shot
- you dont care what type of target you are attacking
its literally effective against anything
unlike something like Heavy Sword
which has not only one, but two major weaknesses
drowsy aspen
For sure
I don't know how to feel about weapons that do well into everything
I imagine that's part of why Plasma is so panned by a lot of high tier players
It's just not very interesting to shoot everything the same
Despite its weaknesses that's part of why I enjoy the Heavy Sword though
It's got mixups, simple though they are
Sprinting into the overhead to kill a maniac or flak fella is always nice
And I kinda like having the bolter to magdump on enemies it can't deal with
This is most peak on Stealth Zealot, where knives can fill the role of precise midrange fire too
earnest bone
Despite its weaknesses that's part of why I enjoy the Heavy Sword though
I see no reason for HSword to do such crap unyelding damage, they could actually buff it
Carapace is kinda okay, as it's armor
or they could bring uncanny to HSword
drowsy aspen
Yeah the Unyielding thing is a little strange- Jeez no thanks lmao
I feel like I remember killing Reapers really well with the Hsword
But then I think about Bulwarks
And I can remember hacking at them till the sun goes cold
drowsy aspen
Uncanny for Ogryn
(Would accomplish almost nothing)
That's not true actually - uncanny on the Bull Butcher could be insane
I wonder if it'd replace Tenderizer on the Mk. 4 knife as well?
...dammit, now I am considering what you said
earnest bone
well, too bad FS isn't considering anything like that
doubt we'l see any new blessings or rebalances soon in the game
maybe after another year
and probably another year for Autopistol to live in the dumpster
drowsy aspen
If they just add a few new levels, you can count me a happy man
Autopistol is S tier
grand perch
S as in shit tier
chilly viper
what about the boltpistol?
grand perch
bistol is in its own ranking of lmao nade spam tier
chilly viper
what is the best melee?
fast sundial
depends on the intended purpose
analog yacht
🤔
fast sundial
killing elites/armor/bosses? dueling sword
horde clear? chainswords, heavy sword, dclaw
something for both? power sword, rashad
analog yacht
in this I think i'd rec heavy sword over chain or dclaw
both are just in a really rough spot rn
analog yacht
true tbh
if we're being 100% there's no reason to run anything besides ds4 and rashad other than "i wanted to"
lusty sapphire
in this I think i'd rec heavy sword over chain or dclaw
How is dclaw in a rough spot when you can just ignore a crusher overhead or go melee with ragers thanks to the parry? Is there something I'm missing
analog yacht
the one thing dclaw has going for it is that it's safe
but like, so is knife but knife can also do damage
wet ether
Well yeah, everything kinda is powercrept to hell
power creep dont think i've met her in my life
split grove
anyone have a build for boltor veteran
pliant agate
anyone have a build for boltor veteran
https://youtu.be/R30mqpT7eNs?si=FV3T-lK1i4gDUl1w This build is good. And the player is good, so you can trust the build
split grove
inspiring barrage?
pliant agate
inspiring barrage?
You can take another blessing if you want something more offensive. Up to you. It did help him survive that big ass wave of enemies. I like taking puncture myself, for the bleed stacks.
pliant agate
https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737
okay?
somber adder
Me when I see a slight deviation from THU METHA on a gun that breaks the game in a game that isn't that hard to begin with:
wet ether
https://youtu.be/R30mqpT7eNs?si=FV3T-lK1i4gDUl1w This build is good. And the pla...
what the build those chief
yeah just going off at least 10 minutes of gameplay man is relying to much on his bolter to do the heavy lifting
languid estuary
yeah just going off at least 10 minutes of gameplay man is relying to much on hi...
the whole point of the video is to showcase how strong the bolter is?
analog yacht
Is telopots the incel or is that another guy
languid estuary
which other guy
analog yacht
Idk I remember one of the high level darktide guys is a 4chan type
I mean it's probably more than one but the one I'm thinking of is pretty open about it
languid estuary
tanner is pretty channed out
analog yacht
Probably him then
grand perch
The one time I was on telopots server, it felt rather 4channy
lusty sapphire
yeah just going off at least 10 minutes of gameplay man is relying to much on hi...
A bolter video showcasing the bolter after the newest changes is being too reliant on bolter? Colour me surprised
tough tiger
Real
If he uses his melee in that vid then ppl would complain about him not showcasing bolter enough
wet ether
https://youtu.be/R30mqpT7eNs?si=FV3T-lK1i4gDUl1w This build is good. And the pla...
There a few gripes I have with this build as well I do for example why is this man taking the top 2 left hand side talents on vet
Those points would be better spent elsewhere where
tropic notch
Even with survivalist the bolter vacuums ammo
I’d rather do weapons specialist with knife and d barrel
wet ether
Even with survivalist the bolter vacuums ammo
Indeed personally while bolter is good and all it’s just not worth using
Cause of the ammo it burns through
tropic notch
I feel like zealots flamer or bolter would be a cool ability
Instead of guns or make them do overheat that takes away a ton of toughness
tall torrent
There a few gripes I have with this build as well I do for example why is this m...
Boltgun usually wants one of the reload speed talents
tall torrent
Indeed personally while bolter is good and all it’s just not worth using
Nah it’s very very strong, top 4~5th strongest gun on veteran
wet ether
Nah it’s very very strong, top 4~5th strongest gun on veteran
strong yes I’ll give you that but the ammo it burns through is a complete turn off
tall torrent
strong yes I’ll give you that but the ammo it burns through is a complete turn o...
It’s pretty much Gunlugger but u actually kill things outside of ult
idle swallow
As long as you treat boltgun more as a DMR with occasional mag dump utility, you can make the ammo last without too being too much of an ammo goblin
wet ether
As long as you treat boltgun more as a DMR with occasional mag dump utility, you...
And there in lies the problem
People more often than not that I’ve noticed at least on Oceana servers mag dump
formal cradle
can you get a perfect plasma gun with 69 thermal and 71 charge from brunt's armoury or does that only yield single dump stat weapons?
lusty sapphire
People more often than not that I’ve noticed at least on Oceana servers mag dump
Then that's not the gun isn't it?
Could say the same for glugger ogryns
tall torrent
can you get a perfect plasma gun with 69 thermal and 71 charge from brunt's armo...
Possible, hard to get tho
lusty sapphire
I usually don't have ammo issues apart when meeting ppl exclusively using ranged
wet ether
Then that's not the gun isn't it?
Depends on what the gunluggers pals are mag dumping into
Hordes not ok
High value targets
idle swallow
Aside from a few outlying offenders, burning ammo too fast is a player problem and not an intrinsic weapon problem
wet ether
Just personal opinion this is but you also gotta consider that the bolter at least to me has a very low ammo reserve
rain verge
anyone got a plasma gun build that dosent use focus target weapon specilist looks dope since you only pull out plasma for elites anyway
tall torrent
anyone got a plasma gun build that dosent use focus target weapon specilist look...
If u take weapon specialist u kind of need to drop survivalist and take fire team just for breakpoints
wet ether
anyone got a plasma gun build that dosent use focus target weapon specilist look...
Just make one yourself bro
Trial and error
rain verge
my vet knowledge is very lacking since i mostly play zealot and ogryn but wanted to get my weeklys done haha
wet ether
Bring it down, superiority complex and precision strikes are a must
tall torrent
Superiority complex no
rain verge
If u take weapon specialist u kind of need to drop survivalist and take fire tea...
usually play with another vet that runs fire team already
but you think i should still drop survivalist?
tall torrent
but you think i should still drop survivalist?
If u have a guaranteed fire team veteran then u don’t need to drop it
wet ether
Ok allow me to retract what I said bring it down and precision strikes
Thank you for correcting me @tall torrent
tall torrent
Tweak based on what u need
You cannot drop the 5% ranged damage node below frag otherwise u miss breakpoint
wet ether
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1185515648206512168/1299730883896545354...
He wants it without focus target if I read correctly
tall torrent
Yea, tweak based on what u need
U can drop focus target for weapon specialist (no subnode needed)
wet ether
Ahh ok my bad
rain verge
Thanks man
tall torrent
And get 5% crit chance
Pretty good value
If ur melee doesn’t need rending strikes, can drop that for smth else too
Twinned blast is fun
I love gambling
wet ether
Imma just say this inspiring presence needs a rework
wet ether
So is born leader I think
trim hemlock
Inspiring Presence is the least valuable small node in the entire game
wet ether
Is born leader useless?
trim hemlock
No, it has some value, but it's completely negligible with how strong say, VoC with yellow HP upgrade is
rain verge
also any mandatory perks i should slap on power sword for breakpoints
lusty sapphire
also any mandatory perks i should slap on power sword for breakpoints
Don't need maniac on ps. Rather take carapace
rain verge
also is power cycler and brutal momentum redundant
wet ether
Don't need maniac on ps. Rather take carapace
Really you don’t?
lusty sapphire
also is power cycler and brutal momentum redundant
That's the go to for ps6
rain verge
got it thanks
lusty sapphire
Ps3 wants cycler and Sunder
wet ether
Seriously you don’t need manic on ps?
tall torrent
No, it has some value, but it's completely negligible with how strong say, VoC w...
No
lusty sapphire
Seriously you don’t need manic on ps?
Yeah
wet ether
Fuck man
tall torrent
Born leader actually spreads the 100% toughness u get from VoC/infil
Which is usually 25~30 more
On top of D&H’s 50
lusty sapphire
Btw this works for plasma too. I like agile engagement with ws as you can tell
Longshot placeholder for whatever you like swapping too
tall torrent
Btw this works for plasma too. I like agile engagement with ws as you can tell ...
Longshot only starts to enable breakpoints for plasma at like 18m+
It’s really not good
lusty sapphire
Longshot placeholder for whatever you like swapping too
^
I know it's borderline useless
candid agate
guys i cant play with mods at all
whenever i patch darktide to load them i keep getting errors and it wont let me sign in
i can play it without mods so i dont understand the problem
wet ether
guys i cant play with mods at all
whenever i patch darktide to load them i keep ...
Take this to the darktide modding discord server
candid agate
fair
wet ether
That’s a modding problem chief
lusty sapphire
guys i cant play with mods at all
whenever i patch darktide to load them i keep ...
Have you updated all your mods?
candid agate
checked vortex, everything is up to date
sick cedar
What's the best dump stat for the plasma gun?
lusty sapphire
Ah I see, vortex is kinda buggy with dt modding so that might be your issue
tall torrent
What's the best dump stat for the plasma gun?
It doesn’t have one
lusty sapphire
Check in the modding discord too at this point
candid agate
its worked fine for the past couple months but its just recently been messing up for no reason
tall torrent
Uhoh
Ideal distribution is 80 damage, 80 stopping power, 80 ammo, 69 thermal resist (enough to get 8 consecutive shots from 0% heat) and as high charge rate as possible
tall torrent
Would this be considered a good stat spread then?
This is fine
A bit less ammo but overall not a big deal
Change the perks tho
sick cedar
This is fine
A bit less ammo but overall not a big deal
Change the perks tho
I was taking the perks from a build I saw online
What do you recommend?
tall torrent
I was taking the perks from a build I saw online
They prob don’t know plasma breakpoints
sick cedar
This is the build I'm following, with some minor adjustements to the perks
lusty sapphire
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/ve...
This is pretty bad
tall torrent
Use this instead
sick cedar
tall torrent
Plasma breakpoints are simple
Do you run superiority complex?
Yes -> elite + flak/maniac
No -> unarmored + flak
If you run superiority complex, which breakpoint do u care about more?
Flamer 1 bodyshot non-crit at high heat -> elite + maniac
Scab mauler 2 bodyshot (crit/rising heat stack variable) -> elite + flak
sick cedar
Use this instead
Gonna use this but sub out demolition team for field improv
tall torrent
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/ve...
Gameslantern builds are usually not good
This one is no exception
tall torrent
Gonna use this but sub out demolition team for field improv
Nah
Depends on ur melee weapon
sick cedar
Gameslantern builds are usually not good
This one is no exception
Ahhhhh
tall torrent
If ur melee doesn’t need rending strikes, u can drop that
Demo team is very high value in higher difficulties
sick cedar
Depends on ur melee weapon
I like running the combat knife but also the chainsword
Also shovel
sick cedar
Gameslantern builds are usually not good
This one is no exception
Well my whole time playing has been not good then lol
tall torrent
Knife wants stamina regen so you’d need to drop both demo team & rending strikes
Chainsword is fine in terms of melee talent costs, it’s just overall very mid
sick cedar
Ah
Well, I might need to rework some of my builds
I kinda wanna get back to using the helbore too
tall torrent
Field improvisation is not a bad pick if you somehow have 3~4 talent points to spare by the end of ur build
sick cedar
Field improvisation is not a bad pick if you somehow have 3~4 talent points to s...
I more so take it if a build I'm following uses a talent I don't like
tall torrent
I more so take it if a build I'm following uses a talent I don't like
Like demo team?
sick cedar
Yeah
tall torrent
What difficulty do u mainly play so far
sick cedar
Damnation
tall torrent
Even in regular damnation without modifiers it’s around 15 more grenades (?)
sick cedar
I guess the fact it has no cooldown goes a long way
tall torrent
In missions with very high elite/specialist spawns it can be close to 30+ like in C-I-VI maelstrom
sick cedar
200+ hours and still learning new stuff lmao
tall torrent
I guess the fact it has no cooldown goes a long way
No it’s the fact that frag is best used in twos
If u throw 2 frags and wipe an elite horde, chances are, demo team gave u back 1 for free
And with demo stockpile giving u back 1 every minute
sick cedar
Ahhh
tall torrent
That’s roughly one frag save every minute
sick cedar
That it's reliant on havign a medipack/ammo crate?
tall torrent
No
The problem is that
Zealot’s best blitz is throwing knife which they can self replenish
Basically only frag bomb ogryn & fire nade zealot will care about the grenade pickup function
trim hemlock
On top of D&H’s 50
OK, that's fair, but that's still value that only really helps your teammates, and doesn't do anything if they're at full Toughness. There is value in that, it just isn't what I'd normally consider over just straight more melee/ranged power for 5s on ability use.
trim hemlock
and especially not on say, ES build. Stealth might get some value out of it still.
tall torrent
And if you take it just so you can gobble up all 4 ammo crate charges to spam grenades, you’re kinda being mean to ur team lol
Unless you play with 3 psykers
sick cedar
And if you take it just so you can gobble up all 4 ammo crate charges to spam gr...
Tbh I mainly take it for the corruption regen if anything
tall torrent
OK, that's fair, but that's still value that only really helps your teammates, a...
If anything FTE is more mediocre
It doesn’t changes breakpoints for the most part
trim hemlock
FTE isn't amazing either, sure
tall torrent
That whole row is “pick whatever”
Born leader happens to be the best for VoC out of those 3 most of the time
trim hemlock
How's the guide coming along, by the way?
tall torrent
How's the guide coming along, by the way?
Only example builds not done
Everything else is complete
trim hemlock
Cool - really compelling an effort 
tall torrent
Tbh I mainly take it for the corruption regen if anything
What’s the main source of corruption damage u take
sick cedar
Prolly just overall stackup, no concrete source of damage
sick cedar
Born leader happens to be the best for VoC out of those 3 most of the time
Personally I prefer for the emperor, mainly caue of the extra dmg
tall torrent
Because only 4 regular enemies deal corruption
Tox bomber’s gas cloud
Poxwalkers (melee)
Poxburster’s kaboom
Pox hound’s bite
sick cedar
But I can see why you'd prefer born leader over a 5 second buff
tall torrent
Personally I prefer for the emperor, mainly caue of the extra dmg
Extra damage that doesn’t meaningfully make u kill things faster is kind of pointless
trim hemlock
Staying in the trapper's net also inflicts minuscule, but scaling corruption over time
sick cedar
Staying in the trapper's net also inflicts minuscule, but scaling corruption ove...
Really? I never noticed
slow spade
most teammates are quick enough to save you
sick cedar
Oh yeah that's fair
tall torrent
Staying in the trapper's net also inflicts minuscule, but scaling corruption ove...
It’s negligible because any time you get trapped you’re getting downed by melee first
Unless you got trapped in a spot your teammates cannot reach which usually means you’re lagging behind a lot
sick cedar
How's this look for a hellbore build?
tall torrent
How's this look for a hellbore build?
Nah
First off what melee do u want to run
Usually it needs both horde clear & anti-Armor
tall torrent
Shovel
sick cedar
I'm not hugely keen on Exec stance but I'll see how it runs
frank basin
Tanner posting duck
tall torrent
I'm not hugely keen on Exec stance but I'll see how it runs
Unfortunately Helbore V can’t 1 tap flamer non-crit without exe stance
sick cedar
I run IV
slow spade
oh then you're good lol
slow spade
mk4 helbore does surprisingly good damage
tall torrent
Take marksman
sick cedar
mk4 helbore does surprisingly good damage
Yeah I much more prefer it
I was experimenting with the other marks for the bayonet charge but couldn't find them as enjoyable
slow spade
indeed
sick cedar
I don't care about the meta as much as just having fun with a build and what's the most comfortable to me
slow spade
I find the Mk4 basyonet still does good enough damage to kill strugglers
sick cedar
I find the Mk4 basyonet still does good enough damage to kill strugglers
Yeah, it's more so an emergency attack for me
slow spade
obligatory "just shoot them" too
frank basin
AHHH WHY IS IT MAGFED UPSIDE DOWN
sick cedar
Shovel
I more so followed this build exac tly and I still have 2 points left to spend??
Weird
sick cedar
Bren my beloved
Gonna take counter fire cause I like being able to keep the ability active by just killing ranged stragglers
And also demolition team would fit well with executioner's stance it seems
This is what I ended up with for my helbore build
Tbh I would take the 8 stacks focus fire talent but I find myself pinging too many enemies too quickly to get the full 8 stacks
tall torrent
Demo team is not necessary for krak, it’s nice tho if u rly want it
tall torrent
Tbh I would take the 8 stacks focus fire talent but I find myself pinging too m...
8 stacks is pure bait
sick cedar
8 stacks is pure bait
Yeah
earnest bone
Tanner posting duck
sick cedar
Demo team is not necessary for krak, it’s nice tho if u rly want it
Gonna take supression immunity then
tall torrent
Gonna take supression immunity then
Not necessary
sick cedar
I like having it for the utility of things
tall torrent
Helbore has very low extra sway from being suppressed
dry cloak
suppresion immune is a double edged sword in my opinion
it can help but it can kill you
dry cloak
Helbore has very low extra sway from being suppressed
unalbe to charge
tall torrent
unalbe to charge
Can still charge
sick cedar
Helbore has very low extra sway from being suppressed
I guess I always had it on so I never noticed
Would superiority complex be good to use the 1 leftover point on?
tall torrent
Would superiority complex be good to use the 1 leftover point on?
It’s in the build I sent u
tall torrent
Also u don’t need subnodes for exe stance
Probably get One Motion
Helbore draw speed is cancer
sick cedar
Yeah it's...
It's something
I more so took counter fire cause I liked having the ability to keep Exec stance running for longer
But I guess the Helbore's damage is good enough to not need it at the same time
tall torrent
Step 1 of playing exe stance better is to understand that you’re not meant to try to keep it up forever
Be flexible
If having to melee to save ur life means dropping exe stance, do it
tall torrent
It’s not 30s when you almost always kill a specialist to cut CD when it’s active
sick cedar
Yeah I just meant the base cooldown
Without factoring anything else
@tall torrent Thanks so much for helping me out with this
I appreciate it a lot
One last thing, are these good perks and blessings to have on the shovel and helbore with that build in mind?
tall torrent
One last thing, are these good perks and blessings to have on the shovel and hel...
Maniac over flak for Helbore
Would take decimator over skullcrusher for mk7 shovel even though decimator is mid
Shovel does way less stagger than u think
dry cloak
i use mk6 knife with haymaker for hordeclear on my ,,sniper,, build
sick cedar
Maniac over flak for Helbore
Would take decimator over skullcrusher for mk7 shov...
Would it be better on other marks?
radiant chasm
i use mk6 knife with haymaker for hordeclear on my ,,sniper,, build
anything would be better than haymaker
since mk6 still has a target cap and isn't nowhere near a massive arc
tall torrent
Would it be better on other marks?
No because flamer 1 tap matters
tall torrent
since mk6 still has a target cap and isn't nowhere near a massive arc
Doesn’t have cleave damage distribution cap
sick cedar
No because flamer 1 tap matters
Ah
sick cedar
Maniac over flak for Helbore
Would take decimator over skullcrusher for mk7 shov...
So these are the only things I should really change?
radiant chasm
haymaker is basically only for ogryn clubs cause they can bat away whole swathes of horde
for combat knifes, riposte, flesh tearer, even lacerate would be better than 20% chance to oneshot 4 human sized enemies when your best combo doesn't use heavies only
dry cloak
one shotting maulers with a scrath is funnier
tall torrent
So these are the only things I should really change?
Prob yea
sick cedar
Gotcha
radiant chasm
one shotting maulers with a scrath is funnier
you can easily combo them with uncanny strike to the head
slow spade
to be fair, a fun build should also be good as losing isn't fun :p
frank basin
What if he doesn’t really care about victory?
frank basin
that's a common excuse
he want fun, let him have fun
somber adder
he want fun, let him have fun
Stop having fun in my meta game
tropic notch
If I’m wanting a non meta build c axe vet is pretty cool
tall torrent
If I’m wanting a non meta build c axe vet is pretty cool
Combat axe is meta for veteran
Like, top 3 strongest melee
tropic notch
Combat axe is meta for veteran
Oops meant chain
tall torrent
Chainaxe is kinda meh for veteran
tropic notch
It’s ok
somber adder
Chainaxe is just fun
tropic notch
Can clear if played correctly
Then again that’s with anything
It’s my go to if I’m not using the knife, ds, or combat axe
And power sword
frank basin
Stop having fun in my meta game
:Bringing my Graia Braced Autogun:
somber adder
My comfort is tac axe for that carpal tunnel
tropic notch
But i don’t use the ps often
frank basin
isn't taxe like knife?
earnest bone
i like tax on zealot, on vet i feel like there's not enough crit
frank basin
spamming mouse
somber adder
I hate the taxe so much
Huh, why?
tropic notch
It’s good but I’d rather just do uncanny mercy killer knife
frank basin
tall torrent
isn't taxe like knife?
Nah
frank basin
Nah
so you means knife has more use on heavies
while taxe just light spamming constant
somber adder
The infinite dodges while twirling your axe around like a fantasy movie protagonist is just fun and easy
tall torrent
Tac axe is like
It’d be good if it had maybe 2.5x carapace & unyielding dps and you could run 4 blessings on it
tropic notch
It’s carapace is abysmal
tall torrent
Why does the “slightly smaller axe” have a third of the single target dps of the “slightly bigger axe”
hearty panther
that's a pretty unfavourable estimation tbh
tropic notch
If I’m running it I have to run an auto with that brittleness blessing
frank basin
the shattering impact?
somber adder
Onslaught is what I thought they meant
frank basin
that's the talent
somber adder
Yeah I can't read
somber adder
Always knew I was a bit psychic
somber adder
Onslaught is really fun, makes a lot of shitters good
warm harbor
So when are we getting the Stormtrooper Hellgun for Vet?
frank basin
warm harbor
I want that 😔
candid agate
does combat knife need rending strikes?
tall torrent
does combat knife need rending strikes?
No
candid agate
so ive wasted a point in many builds
hollow ibex
so ive wasted a point in many builds
Might not be wasted depending on your gun
viral bramble
Which autogun should I get? I have none of them.
tropic abyss
braced or infantry?
tropic abyss
all the infantry ones are good, the vraks has crazy DPS due to rate of fire
viral bramble
Preferably not burst fire
tropic abyss
columnus is my favourite and agripinaa is slower and has more damage, very controllable if you have the aim for headshots, but less ammo economy than the columnus, which is the balanced one
for braced I don't know either, don't like them
vigilant autogun has one variant that isn't burst fire (it's semi auto)
that's the one I tolerate the most
viral bramble
What's the biggest difference between Infantry/Vigilant and Braced?
somber adder
Infantry can ads, vigilant is high damage with low firerate and braced is spray and pray with high dps
hollow ibex
What's the biggest difference between Infantry/Vigilant and Braced?
infantry = generic space assault rifle
vigilant = DMR. does pathetic damage on body shots, a lot of damage on headshots
braced = big ammo pool, spray and pray, can't ADS
viral bramble
Thanks, getting infantry for sure then.
hollow ibex
yeah infantry is very well-rounded
has massive damage boost on headshot, but not as punishing if you land body shots compared to viligant
somber adder
Infantry Vraks is one of the best guns in the game imo
viral bramble
Got a 60mob one on second roll, so I guess the stars alligned.
hollow ibex
braced has kinda fallen off
candid agate
braced has kinda fallen off
wasnt columbness braced the shit way back when
tall torrent
What's the biggest difference between Infantry/Vigilant and Braced?
Infantry most versatile, traditional automatic rifles
Braced are Hipfire/brace fire, higher bodyshot but low finesse & dodge
Vigilant are DMRs, burst/semi auto with low maniac damage
candid agate
think i remember it had insane horde clear
tropic abyss
how am I supposed to use the plasma gun?
I want 20 mastery with it but I don't like playing it...
somber adder
Left click for the win
tropic abyss
no charge?
somber adder
Charged shots are mostly worse than just left clicking
Use it for special/elite sniping and mowing down hordes in a line with the infinite cleave
tall torrent
how am I supposed to use the plasma gun?
Left click head
tall torrent
Use it for special/elite sniping and mowing down hordes in a line with the infin...
Left click is 50 cleave
viral bramble
Just buy a shitton of the matching grey weapon and upgrade to green
then sacrifice
tall torrent
I get mastery based on kills or damage?
Fastest is sacrificing green plasma guns
somber adder
I get mastery based on kills or damage?
Neither, just xp. You could just not use it and still get as much xp as if you got 20000 kills with it
viral bramble
Dumdum + Deathsplitter for infantry auto?
tall torrent
Dumdum + Deathsplitter for infantry auto?
tropic abyss
I want to experience the weapons a bit, it's an excuse for me to test them out
viral bramble
<:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
Maniac + flak?
tall torrent
Maniac + flak?
Flak + 5% crit chance
Also grab the 5% crit chance talent on the right (above infiltrate)
Also take reciprocity
somber adder
but I was considering doing it for the plasma and power sword...
I hated them when I started out myself but like them now. Give 'em a shot till level 20
It's a good excuse to familiarize yourself with each weapon as you said
tropic abyss
yeah
the Crusher was fun too
I only got a decent roll and went around playing with it but it grew on me, now I'm upgrading the weapon and keeping it around
tropic abyss
eviscerator, hammer and crusher
somber adder
I absolutely despise crusher
tropic abyss
those are fun ones
somber adder
That shit does not work for me
tall torrent
That shit does not work for me
What did u put on it
tropic abyss
but crusher is the third one, less good than hammer and evis
somber adder
What did u put on it
Lemme check
tall torrent
but crusher is the third one, less good than hammer and evis
Nah it’s top 3 zealot melee right behind knife & duelling sword
viral bramble
Flak + 5% crit chance
How much of a differnce would be it compared to by current setup?
tall torrent
How much of a differnce would be it compared to by current setup?
Murder everything vs murder just flak & maniac
tall torrent
Also don’t take onslaught
tropic abyss
peak zealot
doesn't even cosplay as a sister with an eviscerator (and a beard)
viral bramble
Also don’t take onslaught
viral bramble
Also are u like new to veteran or smth, just curious
My vet is like 50 or something, I mainly play Psyker and Zel
somber adder
What did u put on it
I can't get into the game
tall torrent
Swap elite to carapace on ur axe
tall torrent
>peak zealot
>doesn't even cosplay as a sister with an eviscerator (and a beard)
Evicerators would be good if they were half as effective as crusher
viral bramble
Swap elite to carapace on ur axe
Hmm, I'll try both skilltrees and see if I notice much of a difference. I highly prefer being able to tag mobs for team damage.
tall torrent
Hmm, I'll try both skilltrees and see if I notice much of a difference. I highly...
Not entirely necessary
Focus target is only really good for weapons that need it for breakpoints (ex: plasma)
somber adder
@tall torrent
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331>
Swap unyielding for maniac imo
Also use push atks more
Crusher’s PA is super strong
somber adder
Aight I'll take my Zealot out for a walk next and give it another go
tall torrent
Aight I'll take my Zealot out for a walk next and give it another go
Could also be a talent build thing
I run this
somber adder
Yeah that's fair, I used very skunked builds whilst penance hunting so that definitely plays a role
Almost done though 🙏
severe gale
Evicerators would be good if they were half as effective as crusher
mk15 is good
really strong
mk3 is
not
mk3 is A tier
mk15 is A tier
tall torrent
mk15 is good
It’s alright
hearty panther
ur really strong
severe gale
great single target, good horde clear
hearty panther
ever think about that
tall torrent
It’s kinda ass vs ragers
severe gale
chastise lights will stagger ragers
tall torrent
chastise lights will stagger ragers
Real question is
severe gale
It’s kinda ass vs ragers
hearty panther
can just stunlock rager masses with lights
tall torrent
When are u getting around to testing grievous wounds
severe gale
When are u getting around to testing grievous wounds
uhm
idk !
never probably
all i know is GW helps with mk3 evis h1 staggering ragers and thammer heavies
tall torrent
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iYFVnsnv0ZMkUUtW-?invite=c...
It’s ok
umbral scaffold
what is the best recon lasgun mark?
tall torrent
what is the best recon lasgun mark?
XII / XIV based on preference
tall torrent
all i know is GW helps with mk3 evis h1 staggering ragers and thammer heavies
Test it more
I know grievous wounds makes XIIIg chainsword H1 break rager combo
severe gale
Test it more <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
it also lets, under certain circumstances, lights throw ragers to the floor on the thammer
tall torrent
it also lets, under certain circumstances, lights throw ragers to the floor on t...
Time for u to test it
umbral scaffold
what are good blessing for the recon lasgun?
severe gale
Time for u to test it <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
i will not become a path grub
tall torrent
what are good blessing for the recon lasgun?
Dum dum + deathspitter/infernus
tall torrent
i will not become a path grub
Do it for science
severe gale
Do it for science
earnest bone
It’s kinda ass vs ragers
its also ass versus 6 crushers
even if you got BT + Carapace
and if you dont, you dont even try
tall torrent
even if you got BT + Carapace
It’s ok if u have like 20m room behind u to fall back to
Like in the clip she showed
But that’s like literally every melee ever
earnest bone
It’s ok if u have like 20m room behind u to fall back to
usually you also have like 5 ragers 10 gunners and some trash mobs on your arse
and 2-3 bulwarks too
knife and DS4 can easily deal with that, but mk15 cant finish the damn animation
i'd wish there was a blessing like +100% rev speed
tall torrent
i'd wish there was a blessing like +100% rev speed
Nah
Double the rev-tick damage
That’s what chain-weapons need
earnest bone
its just take way too long
tall torrent
I hate the fact that most of them bank all the damage on the finishing tick
umbral parrot
IMAGINE!? Make it the perfect boss killer!
tall torrent
IMAGINE!? Make it the perfect boss killer!
It’s actually pretty good at boss damage on its own
It’s still pretty ass for duelling chaos spawns because u have to stick through the rev animation for big damage
umbral parrot
It's also meh against Beast of Nurgle. Kinda hard to dig into their weak spot.
earnest bone
the damage is insane tho if you hit it
i think like 10k or 15k depends on buffs at the moment you hit it
but you need to bait the tail sweep first
and only then go for it
so it's still a time waster
umbral parrot
Hmm.... a good buff would be to do more damage in terms of more ticks! I think it's 3 ticks and rip?
umbral parrot
It's god like if you get a Crit with a Rev sword two lol. Stuff it into a Plauge Ogryn's face and go ham!
earnest bone
Hmm.... a good buff would be to do more damage in terms of more ticks! I think i...
It's still a hard lose against DS4, you can dodge tail sweep, proc both precog + duelist and with chastise + thrust nuke it
somber onyx
like i know im on heresy but i have a blue sword with no particular build why am i oneshotting everything in the game
earnest bone
hey so the dueling sword is
it's basically a slightly better knife
since you dont give af about stamina
umbral parrot
I've yet to try the Dueling Sword with my Vet.
earnest bone
It’s strong at everything except horde clear
make it good for horde clear too
tall torrent
make it good for horde clear too
Nah
tall torrent
It’s such a cringe melee weapon
tall torrent
like do we care though like
The highest damage build in the game rn is EK surge m1 spam on psyker
Yes we definitely do care
severe gale
make it good for horde clear too
rampage does that apparently
somber onyx
The highest damage build in the game rn is EK surge m1 spam on psyker
i do not know what that is
earnest bone
rampage does that apparently
i havent tried it tbh, it's either uncanny + riposte or agile or something
faint beacon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iYFVnsnv0ZMkUUtW-?invite=c...
Got hit once
you're washed
Uninstall
severe gale
it’s so over
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i do not know what that is
Electro kinetic staff, surge blessing, spam left click projectiles at everything
severe gale
i havent tried it tbh, it's either uncanny + riposte or agile or something
agile is a meme
precog thrust, rampage precog
somber onyx
shadow wizard money gange win s again
severe gale
are what u want
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shadow wizard money gange win s again
It has no reason to be that strong
earnest bone
Electro kinetic staff, surge blessing, spam left click projectiles at everything
i need a full talent build for that
need to finish
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i need a full talent build for that
No
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psyker penances are easy
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I would prefer if ur psyker jumped off a bridge instead of playing that build
severe gale
they were the fastest for me to complete
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And psyker has the easiest penances out of the 4 classes
faint beacon
Cause psyker is an EASY CLASS!!!! 🗣️
severe gale
Cause psyker is an EASY CLASS!!!! 🗣️
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Cause psyker is an EASY CLASS!!!! 🗣️
Try saying this in psyker chat
faint beacon
Im dying on that fucking hill
severe gale
Try saying this in psyker chat
me saying that psyker has such easy crowd control that with decent positioning you’re basically never in danger
tough flower
Absolute meme to say that in Veteran chat
severe gale
and then bazerker immediately getting pissed
tough flower
Not that I disagree, Psyker has crazy strong options
But Vet is easy mode most of the time
somber onyx
im not even a level 30 vet yet, its my 3rd character im trying to get there
i normally play ogryn
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Absolute meme to say that in Veteran chat
Psyker is definitely the strongest class rn
tough flower
Not saying it isn't strong or even the strongest
But Vet has comparable damage options and infinitely easier* survivability
*Easier, not necessarily better
deft crystal
Cause psyker is an EASY CLASS!!!! 🗣️
IT IS EASY (when you learn how to play the game with a brain)
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Veteran’s damage is not comparable to EK surge m1
Except maybe 1 build that actually takes some effort to play
faint beacon
Veteran, Zealot, Ogryn actually being able to live for more than 3 seconds vs Psyker
but Psyker can just fucking
tough flower
I don't think one build makes a class the best
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Alt F4 everything
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I don't think one build makes a class the best
Have u seen the EK surge m1 spam yet
tough flower
Admittedly, no
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Pray u don’t
somber onyx
i like being big guy and pressing button and doing daka
o rsmall man and pressing button and daka
exept im using the plasma gun rn becuase its crazy fun
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Overall class strength ranking is like
Psyker > veteran ≈ zealot > ogryn
At least rn
tough flower
Weapons Specialist sawed-off gremlin vet is peak tbh
tough flower
Overall class strength ranking is like
Psyker > veteran ≈ zealot > ogryn
Yeah I would agree, I think
faint beacon
Im going to do something funny
faint beacon
Overall class strength ranking is like
Psyker > veteran ≈ zealot > ogryn
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She agrees for the most part
umbral parrot
Ogryn needs a bit more.... more.
severe gale
She agrees for the most part
she
umbral parrot
I love them, they're still my most played but GOSH
umbral parrot
Pickaxe is the only good thing about them.
tough flower
Ogryn ranged options are so disappointing
umbral parrot
WELL, not the only good thing.... but, it's the only way to melee in a solid way.
umbral parrot
I just think they got nerfed hard with the lack of Damage reduction being nerfed.
tough flower
Double all ogryn damage see if anyone notices
umbral parrot
So you really only go Heavy Hitter or Gungryn. FNP is just trash now.
And i miss running into a hail of Gunner Fire, charging my heavy attack up in order to get as much resistance as i can. lol
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Pickaxe is the only good thing about them.
Ogryn could be so good if they had better dodges, more than 2 good melee weapons and >1 good ranged weapon
And like a permanent 10% melee atk speed node earlier in the tree without heavy hitter
umbral parrot
Or buff blocking to benefit them somehow. I've played my Ogryn with 3 dodges for months lol.