#veteran-class
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New shortname going to be annoying to remembrr
That new skill that let's them overcap Peril during Scryer is interesting
why would they do this
Backend thing
It wasnt confusing enough
it's just going to create so much confusion
Need some traxis-69 names
I love the Rashad change the most
too strong make it a mk3 instead
These marks now have to have a secondary meaning
is there actually a reason given for why they've done this
Backend reasons
W40k company merger
what backend reasons
Just to make things easier to manage for them I guess
I do not understand
Dumb question, where do I see Weapon Mastery? Can't find it at Hadron
Zarona TM had acquired lawBring inc. last year, but name change was hard due to tiny competitor in the Moebian subsector 3
ty
Strawhat heraelf
escape > operative > masteriess
it is also super weird that its not at hadrom
Remember when they said having more blessings would up your initial mastery?
That was a fuckin lie
Should've expected that, really
I'm not sure a lot of the mechanics for the current patch are working as intended
especially given the patch released early?
not.. even.. ready?
No it's just the servers are shitting themselves from the migration
Imagine for anyone who has ever played the game ever they have to run this on every character they habe
me who basically never deleted any item he bought or got:
how long were the servers expected to be wonky?
mastery don't work rn iirc?
at least a day if i had to assume
seems you should have mastery
it just
doesnt work for many currently
man if people could read the official announcements
aint got time for all that
reading is hard yo
they have time to complain though
takes seconds to complain
how you guys feel about the popwer maul?
power sword is like
top 1 or top5
depending on how many points you have in melee
if you have no melee support in your build, it's the best
if you have heavy melee support
rashad or hs is probably the go to
mk6 is just insane out of the box, but other melee weapons get more from the melee buffs
yeah i usally never go melle as veteran
then mk6 powersword is probably what you want
it deletes crushers with no melee support
and is generally just a very good weapon
brutal momentum + power cycler for the blessings
I have no idea why it does such silly damage
since it wasnt linked on steam or anything
this is my og one
would swap wrath for brutal momentum
it gives more cleave funnily enough
than
a literal cleave blessing
also higher weakspot damage
done
infested could go to unyielding too
since charge > block push cancel > light > light
does
stupid damge to bosses
it's weird how good of a weapon this is with so little support
depends
pretty much every ranged weapon is good on the vet
I've not tried the boltgun on vet since it just got buffed
Shock mauls are good all rounder melee
^^
Remind me of shovels
are any of the tac axes best?
bolt gun is back and better. it got a massive sway reduction. Imma try it out it the puncture blessing.
might actually be a valid reason to use it over the bolt pistol
maybe
Love boltgun
I like it on the zealot for sure
less interesting on the vet compared to other options
Reload might fuck me up if I get pinned in melee and am delayed swinging a chain sword
But if I got a good rhythm, it’s boom boom boom
With locks removed I can finally have the perfect lasgun
Where do you start out at if you have every single blessing for a weapon already?
Considering a weapon specialist build atm
It looks like it has potential for a dedicated boltgunner
Thinking I can keep my shout as well
Finally it won't take me 3 rounds to kill a poxhound with a bolter
Boltgun puncture is the juice. Mag dump playstyle also back if you're ammo guzzle gang
Good shotgun?
The name changes are so unexpected 🤯
Woke up, the update released early?
no this is just a collective hallucination
Group hallucinations
Yes
But maintenance going on
Half the features are disabled atm
Kinda happy I've been at work tbh seems I missed the worst of it
Its more a "fuck around and stare at the new toys"
I'm itching to go to town on my old gear though
I’m working so I can’t even touch anything lmao
Though I did see this
They fucking explode now
Imagine if they gave the fuel tank explosive the Red Barrel flames where it does direct hp damage lol
Do you trust your teammates to not explode you?
I play quickplay
So no 
welp I guess I'm hanging up my zealot 
if I could aim the knives properly
Yeah its hard to get a good shot on some enemies
Especially fucking gunners
I swear I can't hit them in the head with the knives
Idea
When im home unless someone wants to beat me to the punch
I’m going to test what will and what won’t set that tank off
Yellow steel legion coat coming for all classes btw
@tall torrent I was literally about the ping you but do we have access to heavy swords
Tomorrow
You’re fucking gaslighting me bro
Idk half the features aren’t available yet
YOURE LYING
#darktide-driptide message
Also I think the update broke NumericUI

True Gun Zealot
I’m so upset that they do this
I don’t want to buy their slop but as a SL fan they’re unironically good
Then get it noones gonna judge you haha
I’ll buy your slop this time FS…
which one is for vet? I got the old one tho. Seems like they might not necessarily be giving us the old one back.
boltgun is NOT fun on train
Vet Ogryn
Psyker Zealot
So the update went live a day early???
Turns out migrating an entire system hurts
Better to go for the Rashad with the higher Finesse or Penetration?
Dang, was hoping I could try out the new systems and what not before I have to leave town tomorrow
Might be working later today
I’ve boarded a lot of weapons purely for the mastery, so best to hold onto those until it gets fixed right?
Hoarded*
Yeah just noticed the weapon leveling is borked lol
That’s fucking cool
Curious
If you shoot the tank where it starts spewing a bit of fire out will it naturally explode
Or is it just a warning
psure melee doesn't set em off UNLESS someone has already shot the tank
The visual is soncool too
I love every interaction
With enemies where you can take advantage of their gimmicks
Green fire Green fire
GREEN FIRE IS NO GOOD COOKING FOR NOSH
ye this is why it doesn't explode on just melee 
iirc works like barrel damage, direct to health, but flamer resist mitigates some of it
did u log out and in or was this while u were ingame?
haha
Lmao fair
Also I’m honestly all for these small enemy interactions if they keep sneaking these in
its just worked for me too quit and restart game
ye i think making enemies more mechanically diverse instead of more health more damage is more fun
Shooting a Dreg rager vial causes them to shrivel up like a prune 
No but in all seriousness they should touch on the Tox Flamers and possibly bombers
tox flamers need something to set them apart ye
i got the master experience but still cant level up with the points are u able too?
i think they should do corruption damage
Imo yes once it breaks toughness it should slowly ramp up in Corruption given
This is such a good idea that half the community gaslights themselves into thinking this already happens

NO FUCKING WAY
THIS
AND A GOOD SL OUTFIT
LET THEM COOK MORE
I shouldn’t be this excited over DT
Here I a fucking am freaking out about it lmao
the blessing points now work guys
blessing points working for me
So you buy perks and blessings?
I was like
"Make the fire spewing around burn enemies"
Then it exploded with a massive radius
"Ah it won't be needed"
Not fixing that
Literally just the top right talent
Some trees got changed so they reset it
Also I want to point out that her and her scab variant
An event that encourages people to carry books? No effin way, maybe I can actually do my penances finally
WELP
time to spend the next several hours remaking all my builds
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Masteries dont work yet?
Fourth time that happens as a vet player lol
I know
Vet loadouts got reset like 8 times while they were revamping the class trees
I gotta do
Shout focus shredder survivalist
Exe marksman shredder survivalist
Stealth fire team smoke ws
Path bolter build
Shout ws build
Recon
Knife revolver pew pew ws
yeah... I had all 12 of my builds setup and even tweaked them last night
I should have known better
someone needs to do blessing testing for the new ones on plasma gun
Think they’re ahead of the playerbase, watched your HP when you meleed the tank
0 HP was taken
So there can be some very funny things people could do with a lit tank and melee
Interesting
I’ll still have to check it out
Small amount of trolling
5x Shout, Plasma, Power Sword loadouts
This I’m not looking forward to
I’m hoping it just allows for more diverse load outs though
5x Weapon Specialist, Rashad, Revolvers 💪💪💪
Not 550
Scrap
scrap for plasteel 
Now we're talking 😩
server maintenance still going or nah
dumb question but i see the launcher and character select screen sayings it is still ongoing
Wait if I feel particularly [REDACTED] can I buy blue weapons and sell for plasteel? 🤔
I mean. Kinda? I need more time to fiddle around but I don't really see myself liking it tbh.
I'm not really fucking with having my perks barred even though I've been playing this long. I guess after the math settles I'm not as far as I'd think I'd be but it's still pretty eh to me. Being able to sawp around blessings is nice.
I mean, having 600h in game and suddenly getting all your weapons to basically lowest upgrade tier is kinda eh
at least you can reroll all blessings and perks without limits now
gunner resist
ability cooldown
stamina regen
mutant flamer poxwalker
also is 21% health the highest ratio?
chance for curio
ye
ty
chacne for weapon
grim resist
So we can use duelling sword now ?
I don’t think it did
Weakspot kills gives 10% stamina
huzzah jsut logged in and got my masteries
With toughness?
hi, is the game fixed ? or are the masteries still locked ?
Like included also
Under going maintenance still
yeah 5% toughness replenishment and 10% stamina recovery
Yep! That's actually pretty damn good
Everything should be all good tomorrow
nice ! thank you
yeah tunnel vision gets 10% stamina on weakpoint kill with it's original 5% toughness regen stack. Which is awesome, and also there was a increase to the first 20% ammo after a reload having 10% crit chance instead of just 10% first.
Dude... My Lawbringer shotgun build is about to go so hard
infinite stamina + deadshot special bullets
The changes make deadshot possibly viable. Also coupled with the unlocks now overall I'd say there's going to be a lot more build/kit variety.
Deadshot has always been good on plenty of guns
So fellow vets, what are we thinking on a horde clear helbore? Full on crit with the cleave blessing?

Deadshot not being "great" is mostly cuz left tree is rather meh. And being ranged lock vs 30% weakspot. It is a nice last point otherwise. And great for bolter especially
Not weak though
Still need headtaker ?
Yes but watch for lag
pain
Glorious
this looks different, what happened to the old jacket?
Happy Vet player? Drop the Recon nerf
I think they shelved it
aw man, I liked that one more
I like this one more cause the longer coats are pretty iconic on them
Maybe it's because of maintenance hijinks but I keep finding piddly progression for weapons I've used nonstop versus substantial progression for weapons I've only touched once
Like, wdym I'm level 6 on the Turtolsky and only level 2 on the Assault Chainsword
Are they back-filling time used? Maybe it's just for blessings
I lost my blessings that I already had before is that normal?
finally
You know you can skip that
yeah I know but I find this window kinda funny
"You are now allowed to play the game"
Oh Throne I've gotta remake all of my builds lmao 
Like if I had tier 4 dumdum am I meant to still have it or is the entire progress deleted ?
wait what
Talent trees got updated again
my talent trees are chilling
Mine are all reset
was it veteran specifically that got reset
I'm trying to figure why my most used wepon isnt already maxed out by default
bc my zealot is fine
oh god they're really letting me just change the mark of my chainsword
Thank god I have it burned in my head for my main build
oof, trying the latest mission on HITSG
being forced to spend mastery on shit blessing is definitley a decision
I’d rather try it on normal damnation to get the feel of the map and to take in its setting
Before jumping into HISTG and Mael
brutal so far, leavers left and right, and if you join midgame, its practically a loss already
God why’s that
because its very time limited
yea man i noticed i didnt keep any of my high rank blessings I have to reunlock it this with points....
if you're not far enough, you just don't have enough time
I'm so excited
So just to make sure its intentional that previously unlocked blessins are reset and melted ito xp for new system right?
somehow my PS only has 14 mastery points despite having played 1k hours and having every blessing on it
that would appear to be the case, yeah
because I use the crusher a lot but I'm only mastery 9 on it
i just want my heavy sword level, its so slow
Things got a little confusing with the message that they haven't finished merging data for the new system
this i have so many bolters with 4s on them but i only have 1 perk at level 3 rn
I have up to mastery lvl 15 on a lot of weapons
oh my poor baby
Idk if that is good or not
not
its nice that soon everyhone will have the opportunity to see how op rashad is
15-17 seems to be the mastery range on weapons I had tons of progress on
OH FUCK THIS MEANS I CAN FINALLY GET MANSTOPPER ON MY DB
but I was told collecting most of the blessing would max it out on the new system which doesn't seem to be the case
is Deadshot worth using with the double-barrel shotgun?
yes
why not
actually no don't ask me, I don't use shotguns
but it seems nobrainer to me
Lol all my masteries are at level 1 but all my blessings are unlocked and I still have access to all the refine options - I’m still playing like it’s the old system, but with no limits on what I can change.
how it should be fr
IDk why I always forget to screenshot my talent tree before an update
I'm asking you and I respect you

I didn't ask and I hate you irrationally
It's strange, some weapons I've barely touched have really high mastery
And don’t get me started on all the autoguns

i guess if u extracted alot of blessings for a given weapon it will have high mastery
how does brunts armory work?
tbh its not a big deal if I lost some progress, its a finite amount of grind at the end of the day, something comprehensible as opposed to RNG dice roll
Wondering why these icons are still here if you can only get blessings via mastery now
i wanna get the mk 5 duelling sword but dont see it
I'll max out the sabers
finally I get to make a commisar larp veteran
boltpistol saber
speaking of commissar there is one to the right side of the mission deck
This is the best update ever
I just noticed you get more xp for sacrificing same type of weapon
lol, I'm dumb
hahah
good thing I noticed this before melting my massive hoard of bad rolls
so whats the strat to mastery farm in bulk?
so there's bug that you have unlocked blessing previously but then library does not unlock it yet?
yeah same, at max mastery for multiple weapons but have no blessing points to use to unlock blessings
that unfortunate
is it a bug?
I was told that ur not meant to keep them
sacrificing the same family of weapons seem to give a lot more xp than different types
so for example if you're leveling a tac axe you can sacrifice tac axes for a lot of xp or you can sacrifice other weapons for little exp
so my recommendation would be to only sacrifice same type of weapons if your goal is to master all of them
so maybe buy in bult at bruntz and the upgrade to min level to sacrifice?
thats one way I guess
I have a big backlog of items to burn through
so I'd rather use those than burn mats
sacrificing some stuff to level up one of my masteries has given me my blessing points for all weapon classes if anyone else is having the same problem
Nice that refinements no longer require plasteel
I started playing 3 weeks ago and am now really bummed that I didn't save all my weapons. I wish they released this video with the announcement to better inform noobs.
I have 1% more mobility than u 
you can turn them into tons of xp under the new system anyway
if anything it might be more beneficial with new system
You mean the ones I sacrificed for blessings to keep my inventory clean and tidey
took 2 attempts, baet the new mission. tight timing
ogryn teammates make it so much easier
blessings book is reset now anyway so all the sacrifice just turned into bonus xp for new system
whenver there's a boss, pals are the way to go
so you haven't really lost all that much
whats the meta now
Question, the "blessing shop" system
you need the weapon at mastery 20?
or I got fatsharked?
yeah but like where?
I have a greyed option at Hadron
OH
OH

I thought it was at Hadron 💀
thanks you two
what the min thermal resist you want for a plasma? wasnt it pretty low
@formal lake You're always helping me out with builds, until I get a better axe, would it be better to go with the one with a higher finesse score or one with higher penetration?
Penetration
my complaint is that its pretty hard to get a usable new weapon from scratch
Sounds good, thanks!
I guess at 77% the attack speed bonus and finesse modifiers are high enough
ty!
appreciate it
realistically, the one on the left you would never need to replace, 3% extra pen is what you're missing
if you have more plasteel to burn later, yea
Yeah I find it so weird I could have sworn some of my axes would hit 4/4 80 on everything
yeah, that makes sense haha
it takes quite a bit to 500 a weapon
I guess the distribution is just weird on some weapons
really happy to find some good rolls in my inventory after the patch though!
is the dump stat on the plasma gun still Ammo?
Also I'm so happy to be able to fix weapons i put the wrong perks and blessings on when I was dumb lmao
Xbox update seems 100% good so far, haven’t tried a mission yet though
what is "dump stat" the stat that doesnt matter?
Yeah, some weapons have stats that one really doesn't cares much
Lucius with certain blessings you kinda don't care of the Ammo stat for example
What kind of changes did Veteran get?

kinda
sometimes it’s the lowest priority one but still matters up to a certain point
like we say mobility is a dump stat for most weapons but you still want it >=51 to get the max dodges
for all / almost all ranged weapons: Mobility
but for most melee weapons Mobility is very important; so dump stat is often Defenses, Crowd Control, Cleave damage, etc.
wait i cant react is that because i dont have orange name
nvm just got orange name lmao
kinda crazy that this is the first power sword i ever rolled and its pretty goddamn close to perfection
like 18 months ago
ehh more like 14
does plasma gun no longer break bulwarks?
Haven’t for a while
65 Mobility is pretty bad; with bad baseline you want it at 80; PSword biggest weakness is how vulnerable it is with low mobility
Out of those I'd say Cleave Damage is the dump stat
But perks and blessing are great
have i been hallucinating the past 5 months??
i think you meant its not penetrating shields anymore
@tall torrent is guide still accurate even after the maintainance?
What are the thermal res breakpoints for plasma?
are masteries not working yet?
OfB has been +5% for a little while.
im pretty sure cleave damage is just a flat damage modifier against the armors listed under it. it changed but break points on first target for scab ragers before. cleave targets is a better dump stat imo (for powersword)
yea
I am very happy
Apparently so
Thought it was the 26th
yeah came early so they could do background maintenance
hey did they mention anything about revamping the crafting system with this next update?
For the Devil's Claw, Mk IV is the good one right?
the,,,entire update is the crafting system revamp
i intentionally haven't followed the updates since its taken them so long to address the terrible crafting. thanks for letting me know.
Update is working pretty dang good on console. No problems thus far with the crafting system and just tried the new mission!
VII is good too
It's a good thing I can just swap that out now
Any tips for the new mission for when I (will eventually finally) get the chance to update and try?
I just tried a basic malice to get a feel. Not a lot of space to run or get out of trouble, and it’s super fast paced, like I think it was about 12 min in total. Close range is your friend. Unfortunately there were barely any crafting mats so not an ideal farming mission from my first impression.
Ok, so narrow engagements AKA don’t get fucked by Maulers and Crushers lol
I forgot to look at the timer at the end and I’m a console pleb so that was just kinda my shot in the dark feel
Don't die
Somehow I got a 500 weapon which I never use after re-finement/-bless upgrade
so weird
Do we get any penances updated alongside the new Operation?
train mission was significantly easier when i played gunlugger ogryn lol
on histg none the less
maxing weapon mastery counts as penances and each have a skin
Damn.
I love my folks but damn, kinda wish I can update and start farming away lol
why am I only mastery level 5 on my most used weapon?
Mastery level is based on what blessings you had before update, not time used
I've seen something similar and was just about to write it. I'm only level 13 on the Plasma despite having ALL T2/T3/T4 blessings, and most T1 blessings
Meanwhile, on other weapons where I didn't even have all T4 blessings, I'm maxed
Should have prayed harder to the Omnissiah 💅💅💅
Not that it matters much, I have like 200 weapons ready to be sacrificed, but it was weird
That's because they added more blessings so you need more to max it out
So, it was essentially impossible to have maxed mastery on the weapons that got new blessings?
Pretty much lol
But hey, your closer to max then someone who just started
Thankfully I was prepared for exactly such a scenario
Yeah I have plenty of weapons to sacrifice (and 25 mill dockets) so I'll be fine
Was just surprising
oh they added more rewards to the penance track too
@somber axle damn they added your cousin, Sneaky Ogryn
Oh lame... I guess I should have farmed some more blessings then
Delicious alt weapon skins… 🤤
My Emperor, inventory management just got on a whole new level. Any tips to get a quick overview?
Yeah I had my ideal Graia Braced with two tier 4s and only got mastery level 5 cause I never went collecting all the weak blessings I'd never use 
Time to disassemble all the weapons I don’t use to add to Library lol
Btw you get substantially more mastery xp by sacrificing weapons to the same weapon family, it’s around 5x I think
Brunt is about to be rolling in dockets.
Guy can probably outright buy up Mistress Brahms by the time us rejects are done…
so anyone try the dueling sword on vet yet
guys if i buy this can i use it on veteran class?
how is it
just specific to the weapon, not any class
oh but veteran doesnt have dueling sword ?
I think now we do, ye
vet has dueling sword and hsword now
yes we do
Still sticking with PSword for now
can someone explain this to me because i'm getting really frustrated
WE FUCKING DO LETS GOOO AMA BUY THAT
look at the cap stats
Grey weapons also cannot be sacrificed, have to be green or higher, haven’t checked the difference in mastery earned based on consecration level yet
why do they move on the 2nd fucking stat change
but why do we have less weapons now
i get that there's a bug for the first one but this is just ????
and its an old weapon too
Well then Brunt AND Hadron are gonna be rolling in it lol
you can swap between marks interchangeably
but why do we have less weapons now
they folded weapon types into weapon “families”
so you can freely change a weapon into its sub types
when you had 3 shovels before
you can now only buy the one from brunts
but change shovel type 1 into shovel type 2
and back
so like devils claw for example, you can swap them freely between the marks
Yo can someone make a Darktide post on r/gaming. The game need more engagement and i dont have r/gaming karma to post
I saw the HD2 post from last week and it got 6k upvote, thinking this one can do that too.
oh interesting
so in the shop there’s just the 1
Wait this is Woah levels of huge
ya you just change it in your inventory too you don’t have to go to the mechpriest
Can someone link me the best current Zarona revolver build please
Do. Do bolt pistols get new marks this update?
guys how do i change weapon skin?
no, it just got renamed
found it
Ah sad. Will have to satisfy myself with the Penance skin(s) then.
I hate to hit you with this
You missed them by like
A few weeks
They were in rotation

What is the dump stat for the plasma gun?
Early August
how long do i need tow ait
Unknown
It feels ridiculous. With a crit weapon spec build I can easily see it being insane
But are you are a Steel Legion fan
maybe 2 weeks, maybe 2 years
thoughts on tactical axes?
If you are also an SL fan we’re eating good tomorrow
one can hope those are available
They’re coming tomorrow
but where's the lightning patch 
Combat axe generally outperforms, but if you're doing a crit based build tactical axe is slightly better. Don't know if this is still current after the update.
it seems like half the time they add new cosmetics in the files they don’t actually sell them
they’re fine on a melee focused build but they’re not insane or anything
Hidden gems
…I will get shit for saying this.
But the Psyker Steel Legion drip reminds me of the Outcasts from Division 2 🤣
If you want fast movement
thanks guys! think I'll try one out
I don’t even know who they are but if that’s good then good
mk4 is generally the best one
I’m just happy I can make my entire band of rejects my favorite regiment
hopefully you have KeepSwinging mod because it’s a lot of left clicking otherwise lol
MK2 is
agree to disagree
Mk4 is carpal tunnel creator but also really good
Mk2 is objectively better cause it’s easier to hit BM with it
@faint beacon I have godroll for every single veteran weapon now besides the 2 new ones I think
That fucking quick
IM STILL AT WORK
Heh. I am just aiming to have 3 rejects (don’t have an Oggie yet) all in actual Hazmat-alike outfits of any sort (so it actually LOOKS feasible they can physically survive Nurgle environments. Of course, their faith protects their mind and soul)
2 years looks unrealistic
Hey, try having your folks visiting you for the next 2 weeks, meaning next to 0 game time lol.
Original SL coat hasn’t been in since last year
He isn’t off by a bit
YOOOOO GODROLL AGRI
YEAAAHHHH GOD ROLL
it is better if you want to use heavy attack spam because it utilizes BM more frequently but it doesn’t mean it’s objectively better. the mk4 can do light spam and after a couple chops into a horde you’ll start proccing BM most hits just the same
Fun fact
Shred + HT has the same if not better effect
But I personally prefer BM + HT on my Mk4
i haven’t tried with shred ht yet
I noticed my scoreboard damage numbers quickly ramped up
just recently dusted off a bm ht mk4 on my zealot and was pleasantly surprised on a IJ build
But I wasn’t cleaving through hordes
it also does kinda surprising unyielding damage
New update confusing my smooth brain
the systems are complicated tbh
Vet with dueling sword 😄
jumping between the mastery tab in my inventory and sacrificing weapons was confusing at first
Heavy Swords 
use it with exploit weakness for funny crusher flailing
OOOOO
The little glowing notification orb on my Masteries menu won't go away
Shoo
Shoo
EVIL
good 😇
Wait is this character tree or weapon tree?
it replaced vanguard
FUCK OUR TALENTS GOT RESET DIDNT THEY
they sure did
yaaaaaa
on the plus side, relentless is now a part of exe stance
IM KILLING A SMALL PERSON
rip verne troyer
bake you might wanna hide
Thank god I recall my main build but ugghhhHHHHH
tell me about it
I gotta remake so many
why tho
I don’t have that many but nearly half
Gimmick builds 
yeah 
Such as 100% suppression Veteran
Mood
I have two more loadouts to remake and one of them has the exact same gear as another loadout
So I'm just
trying to remember my old loadouts and i dont remember them lol
I mostly do, but it depends on whether suppression immunity is still its own node…
It is
it is
Excellent. My officer build should still be valid.
behold the 382 base
Anyone else seeing issues with sorting weapons by name? Sorting by rating or rarity seems useless now, but the weapons are all over the place for some reason
with the new system what are the best blessings for the revolver?
did they break ceaseless barrage or is it just a tooltip error?
says nothing about increasing damage per level
The knife in the emote is still invisible lmao
Hah
Damn
The new mission takes pretty much no time at all
Which Helbore is da best?
Where’s dukane
Alright, let's see how much I can actually play
Romance? In 40k?
big that patch is live today and not tomorrow
how come i cant pull any gun from the gunsmith anymore?
Should have sent an Eversor.
I was hoping it would skip the romance part entirely.
can I buy a family with dukane
where do i do that
You gotta kill John Darktide first
is the columnus mk III a new gun?
graia infantry autogun but renamed (oh wait that's mk 8)
ah
More dakka
Sad they streamlined the name, but it was a nice shout to SM whilst it lasted.
mb columnus mk III is actually what used to be the vraks III headhunter autogun
melk is selling this
did they nerf dum dum? i can see it doesnt have power but close range damage now
bro made love to the machine god
oh mb, i dont remember well lol
so to lvl up perks you gotta put some low version on and play with it right
nice to know my plasma shout build still kicks fucking ass
For the newer players, yes
Veteran players probably have like 500 Emperor Gifts to just throw at Hadron
well like ive got dum dum 4 and deathspitter 4 on my wep but can only up em to 2 in the mastery tab
Throw shit at Hadron
i wonder if GW was like get your gun names right
I liked the long names :c
Rising heat: Up to 20% scaling with heat level. Thanks.
you mean sacrifice?
The one and only
Does anyone know if that 20% is power or damage on the rising heat blessing?
Power
Based on Patch notes
Np comrade
Personally I'd get Blaze Away + Energy Leakage
You don't need crits with plasma
you dont?
you shouldnt be eligible to jkoin a rolling steel mission in progress on auric
your chance of success is 0%, its just a waste of time
wait, whats energy leakage
most ppl set them up to 1shs hit the bps they care about without crit
No, Gets Hot was because the other blessings were meh
Oh wait
Glory Hunter is good
wait hold on vet has duelling sword now?
Yes
so like ive sacced lots of stuff but still cant up my masteries
is it any good on him or no one had time to test yet?
Anything with Uncanny is good
i think you can 1s crushers
Uncanny + nades lol
You're sacking the blessings right? I'm assuming that's how you get mastery
oh god, lmao
And or using that weapon in missions
That's my next meme build
ye you go to hadron and sac the wep right?
Grenade Tinkerer + Weapon Specialist Dueling Sword
What tier of blessings?
dunno had some tiers but I dont know if I misunderstood the new system, I thought you could just play with the weps and it autolvld up
how's the update? there seem to be some issues on reddit with things being unlocked despite not playing them much
Sadly I'm not too confident as I can't play yet. All I've said so far is from the patch notes
what do u think rising heat vs focused cooling?
we did not lose any weapons at all
like I had bunch of tier 3 and tier 4 blessings but now I do not? didnt fatshark say that ppl with them would have access to those or nah?
I just realized all the guns got renamed
The Columnus mk5 is now Vraks and shit like that lol
"Kantreal Mk12? You're insane, it only goes up to Mk9"
locked trait
yet I have tier 3 on wep and tier 4 frenzy that I crafted pre patch, why cant I unlock em "easly"?
ya gotta updrade other blessings to unlock a higher level, look at the skull thing on the left to see how many more upgrades you gotta do
ye I understand that, kinda nonsensical since I had them unlocked pre patch.....
just sacrifice a few weapons you dont want to get some more mastery points
sacced everything for that specific wep I dont want to and still cant lvl it up
shame, guess you gotta just work some more for it
ye shame its a nerf
what are the best blessing for a sapper shovel. for uncompliced swinging and killing
so weapons which already had 80% do still have a upgrade potential ?
I'm quite pleased that mid-match DCs have been removed and shifted to happening at least 3 times at the end of the reward screen
what is a good base roll ? What should I be looking for?
You want max potential of 80 or as close to 80 for non-mobility stats as possible
You have a fantastic roll right there
any way i could improve this?
high everything low mobility
oh by the way the new plasma blessings how are they looking?
whats the dump stat for duelling sword
Mobility
cheers
So I have no blessings available
nice just got one with exactly 60 max potential mobility
open the masteries menu in operative
you need to go to the mastery tab first (in inventory)
gotta unlock blessings in masteries now
Havent tried focused cooling yet. You lose 60% heat with every critical?
wait how do i empower weapons
Now I have a t1 blessing available 
all yo uneed
yeah... you kinda have to level all of them up
Lame
wait i just realised vet has heavy sword as well what the frick
It is a little lame but it's better than the old system so it's fiiiine
Does Dukane just have no ship dialogue btw
Oop nvm
Complaining always works
does hadron have new voicelines for sacrificing weapons?
so 80% is maximum potential what i see mostly..
Rising heat is meta
Cooling related blessings are fun but not very good
I think gets hot + rising heat is the way
gloryhunter still has a place if u want high toughness sustain
but I don't see a reason to take blaze away on plasma anymore
How do I claim the blessing points? Mastery rank is 10, but it says my points are 0. And clicking on the milestones does nothing.
Ah. I see, thanks!
also for anyone wondering
Concentrated Fire for laspistol is not worth
it drops all stacks on miss and non-weakspot hit
u quite literally have to have near 100% headshot accuracy to upkeep it
patch feels good besides the blessing nerf
Is there any good blessing now for helbores? Aside of surgical.
can try armourbane but it seemed to be kinda meh from what I saw
It depends on whether Armourbane gives you new breakpoints after the first shot
I mean. Enemy either dies to a shot or two, or eats an axe.
if it actually did +50 cleave I'd take it lmao
feel like the new map really just for itemization, fast mission quick exp for matering
also I think
sacrificing an item of the same family as one ur upgrading
yields way more mastery XP
My old gun got weight of fire at least.
I feel like such a chump for putting effort into this game before this patch
Reminder to not buy a fatshark game for at least two years after release
But this one got different perks. It's my only two strong guns on a veteran, lol... I am a helbore magnet. What is better, flak or carapace?
I run this on my (formerly) MK1 and MK3
I liked it
I have one leftover Blessing Point after maxing out my Boltgun
What the helbore...
neither, get maniac + elite
V = mk2
3a = mk1
IV = mk3
It affects stats. What/ Mk IV. Mk V...
Yeah
Ah.
they merged 3 variants in a weapon family into one
u can swap marks on any helbore
which means getting 1 good helbore lasgun = u have good roll for all 3 helbore lasgun variants
Don't know how I feel about that
The game is like 10x more forgiving on RNG now
And I put over 600 hours into Darktide already 
nah more like 1000x more forgiving
I rolled this from my first brunt's random buy
They should suffer just like me 
Real
Lol nice
I remember quicker of helbors was fine without Weight of Fire, while slower felt nice with it. Hm.
In any case this is crazy.
Yeah it helps on the slowest charging one
whatt blessing nerf?
The slow Helbore is the only one that really needed it
I hate the change in names
Before I would have confidently said MKIII is the slow one
Same, I was so close to typing Mk3
Yes
Oh hey, mastery rank 3 in laspistols, lol...
Real
Laspistols just suck to me
I'm not getting the full auto mod
The speed though.
staring at the real commissar chest piece ( I need it so badly )
Autoguns
Carpal tunnel speedrun with laspistols
Fair enough. Being a toughness battery then?
Once more, I am begging you to add the NPC cosmetics UwU
I have godroll of every weapon on veteran now
just some weapon families need max mastery for upgrade
full 420~430 rated curios too
I had several blessings at tier 3 and 4, now I have to grind them up again
wait since that chest is now in the game you could get it by using FTD iirc
Can you modify all 3 curio slots now?
yes
Going to have to get used to being "done" with the grind now lol
BASED
so its sucks bit time for me
Is it 17% or 18% max on toughness?
how much is iron will worth
I thought it was 18
17%
pretty much mandatory
^
thoughness is 17%
so far im pretty disappointed iwth heavy sword
im using and thinking why not power sword or rashad
brain fart with fast typing
So the stat bars lie and don't tell you the full extent of your possible stats at a glance
Same weapon btw
I am correct in this assumption and the chest looks great
I'm keeping the collat low on purpose but almost fucked it 
how does duelling sword compare to rashad on vet? i'm assuming brutal momentum means rashad still has much quicker horde clear (especially now it's much easier to hit the bruiser oneshot) but how much worse is duelling sword's clear
Uncanny + Frags will be funny
got it, thanks!
how is the heavy blade on vet
meh blessing change feels like a kick in the stomach
what about knife compared to dueling sword?
some weapons got nerfed cause of it cause they rely now a ton on stagger
Frens, what should I pair with Power Cycler? Mk 3 Power Sword
Brutal Momentum, Supercharge, or Thrust?
Mobility is the dump stat for every gun
So this perk is locked. I want to use it on another base but fatshark cucked me. I have it unlocked from pre patch though on this
so welcome to the mastery system
Oh yeh Vectorrrrrrr
go to inventory, go to mastery tab, reunlock blessings with blessing points
look at the first image
ok so you need to level up other blessings to unclock tier 4 blessings
ye its bs if you didnt stockpile a bazillion weps
you’re not cucked lol
before it was so easy to get blessings of any tier but now it's way too grindy and i hate it
yes I am, I grinded for hours for that pc4
So what are everyone's favourite new blessings? I'm eyeing up this on the taxe
just sacrifice some weapons it’s not the end of the world
I just bamboozled myself and boosted an 80 mobility, 61 finesse Power Sword 3 to 500
I'm not entirely sure how I let that happen
some? do you know how much you have to grind to unlock it
What's the best heavy sword for light spamming
i literally just did it like an hour ago so yeah i do
Or do they all suck at it
bullshit, just give me my perks
I am so happy... my kantraels are now "god rolls"
if you sacrifice the same weapon you’re trying to upgrade you get significantly boosted xp
I just remembered I'm a member of this discord and it's the perfect place to ask a question
it’s really not that many assuming you played a decent amount and didn’t just trash everything
I know but its still a significant grind for 2 tier 4 blessings
Does Weapon Specialist effect the Lucius bayonet?
The ranged specialist part of it, I think does.
god forbid
no it's not; go to Brandt and buy 10 grey weaps of the same type as the one you want. Upgrade to blue, sacrifice, done
Been struggling to do that damn 250 elite and specialist kills with Weapon Specialist
i think heavy sword feels better than dueling sword on vet not dure which is better tho rashad or heavy sword?
Or at least it used to
Unfortunate. What's the best one for heavy spam then. I'd prefer to avoid alternating entirely.
9
I started using an Axe recently and holy crap the damage on mine at 200 is amazing
IX
infinite horizontal heavy loop after a vertical strike down heavy first
