veteran-class

[pastel yew]

one tapping everything with the meaty sound of the bolt pistol

[sleek garden]

People don't realize how bad a group of traitor guard shooters hurt

[faint beacon]

Not as fun mfers when I nuke the entire horde with one single shredder

Lmao

[pastel yew]

eh I mean it gets old, there's also little mechanical interaction there on your part

[sleek garden]

I wish they didn't nerf them after the foundryplex update

[pastel yew]

I feel like the actual doing of stuff is what makes things fun

[sleek garden]

I felt like the king for a bit

[pastel yew]

because they never get an opportunity to hurt you

[sleek garden]

My build was vindicated

[pastel yew]

I think the shooter nerf was definitely not great, they just needed some slight adjustment

[faint beacon]

The 10 pack of shooters can fuck you up

[pastel yew]

so they couldnt 1 tap you

[sleek garden]

yeah between speedy knife zealots and veterans handing out gold toughness every 5 seconds they cannot physically harm you

[pastel yew]

a slight cooldown on taking damage from them

like once every .1 seconds

[faint beacon]

No bring it back

[pastel yew]

I mean not only that just dodging

[tall torrent]

ykw make suppressed shooters & stalkers just charge into melee

[faint beacon]

It’s funny getting instantly downed

[tall torrent]

don't bother with making them duck for cover

[pastel yew]

controversial take but dodging is an op mechanic and should be adjusted

[tall torrent]

just have them charge into melee

[pastel yew]

its way too easy to just dodge every instance of damage

[sleek garden]

Actually the foundryplex is still definitely the worst map to fight shooters on

And controlling them is important

it's the only map like that

[pastel yew]

that's so dope

[sleek garden]

There's no cover

[tall torrent]

block needs some buffs, dodge I think is fine

[pastel yew]

block definitely needs buffs

it feels the stamina depletion is way too high

[faint beacon]

Isn’t the charged stomp on CS similar with how fucking dumb it can be

[pastel yew]

why run the risk of getting stunned and eating shit when you could just... space + d, space + a

[tall torrent]

guard break's stagger should not be as punishing as it is rn

[sleek garden]

I tried to use the ogryn mk3 cleaver and I blocked an attack from an enemy and pushed and it used 3/8 stamina bars

[pastel yew]

yeah if you get your guard broken you're going to lose a load of health for nothing

[sleek garden]

ridiculous

[faint beacon]

Ragers can put you in some insane stagger locks at times

[pastel yew]

thats what I'm sayyiinn... you see people advise newer players to block and all I can think is "why on earth would you do that"

[sleek garden]

It actually depends on the weapon though some are much for blocking than others

[pastel yew]

you can block while you dodge as a fail safe and that is it's only use

[sleek garden]

Knives kinda suck for blocking in general

The two handed weapons tend to be the best at blocking

The ogryn shield with my curios has like 10+ bars of stamina

[pastel yew]

sliding is also

pretty silly

for the benefit it conveys

[thorn lark]

What???

[pastel yew]

open field loads of shooters? just slide.. they can do nothing

[narrow frost]

lol

[sleek garden]

At least the cleaver does

[narrow frost]

me when I spread misinformation online

[faint beacon]

Insane take

[narrow frost]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[sleek garden]

what do they have a lot of block power

[faint beacon]

More stamina means more blocks

[sleek garden]

I didn't know

[faint beacon]

Regardless

[sleek garden]

the last time I used one I didn't have that much stamina

[faint beacon]

Knives give a shit ton

[sleek garden]

or maybe that was the duelling sword

[pastel yew]

all the more reason to run 3x +3 stam curios...

[narrow frost]

yes

[sleek garden]

Duelling sword has like

1 stamina by default or something

Or 2

[narrow frost]

😦

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[tall torrent]

knife +1
duelling sword +1
ogryn shield +3

[sleek garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1264141162189684768/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.07.19_-_02.47.19.07_online-video-cutter.com_2.gif

[pastel yew]

still no human size shields

[faint beacon]

Dueling sword this

Knife that

[sleek garden]

When you accuse me of spreading misinformation this is who you are talking to

[faint beacon]

Fucking shovel

[sleek garden]

shovel has a defense stat

I hope it's good at blocking

[pastel yew]

when would you block with the shovel though when you can just bonk

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dildo-mma-training-punch-gif-20653984

[pastel yew]

its crowd control is so good

[tall torrent]

defense stat is sprint efficiency & push cost

[sleek garden]

dang

I used to use basically only the shovel and I eventually transferred to catachan

I couldn't deal with rager groups effectively

[pastel yew]

the catachans are cool, I really enjoy the parry and wish more weapons had an interesting special

[sleek garden]

It seems special attacks are generally reserved for stagger output on many weapons

duelling sword, axes, shovels

[pastel yew]

the shovels get the flip mode which is fun

some of them at least

[sleek garden]

I use the original shovel

the shovel stab is serviceable

And I don't get stuck

[idle swallow]

I still wish the weapon special for cowboy revolver was swap between normal ads sights and fan fire

[pastel yew]

that would be nice QoL

the weapons with the bash special are

so fucking meme

[sleek garden]

the cowboy revolver just needs more damage I think

[grand perch]

headhunter is cool

[sleek garden]

I like whipping it out and immediately plugging someone full of holes but it sucks when you shoot someone 3 times and they don't go down without a crit

[pastel yew]

I'd rather it get more ammo again, since its more supposed to be good into general enemies

[grand perch]

knocks ragers off their socks, as you might know

[pastel yew]

then keep the zarona as the planet destroyer but ammo limited

[pastel yew]

fr?

I didnt actually know that

[sleek garden]

Does more than that, my single shot one blows their heads off

[pastel yew]

I know the double barrel does

[grand perch]

yip. charge the bash with headhunters, ragers fall over

[pastel yew]

but also you're running a headhunter just one bang them

[sleek garden]

It has no cleave, I wouldn't think so

Could be right

[pastel yew]

the usefulness of cleave is

so overstated though

like its definitely good

but its more a neat side benefit

[faint beacon]

Headhunters are weak against Maniac

Doesn’t mean they can’t kill them

But

[pastel yew]

most important targets are taller than shitter enemies

so you can just shoot over the top of their head

[tall torrent]

I don’t think cleave is the problem I think it’s the fact that its shy of breakpoints on every major enemy (with headshots) and is still reliant on finesse to do decent damage

[sleek garden]

yeah, but when you are in the thick of it and pull out the cowboy revolver to fan the hammer on a trapper and a little dude walks in your face it might get stopped

[faint beacon]

Bash can also push bursters back far

[sleek garden]

Otherwise yeah just shoot them in the head

[pastel yew]

that I wouldnt trust

[sleek garden]

I trust bash for it

[pastel yew]

I cant remember what weapon it was but I remember gun bashing a burster

[sleek garden]

It's funnier

[pastel yew]

and it went fucking

side ways

and exploded

never again, melee shoves only

[sleek garden]

Ogryn smack attack also throws them sideways

Just dodge sideways

Easy

It's sad many people do not trust barrels

I see people run around and blow them up early

before a big fight

[faint beacon]

HHA bash is really damn good if you’re committing to shooting something and a Burster jumps at you

Bash seriously seems risky

[pastel yew]

I've been killed more by team barrels than any non disabler enemy in recent history

[dim saddle]

i have added more to my lil cowboy vet video intro lol

[faint beacon]

It’s just you bash and dash backwards and you’re done

[sleek garden]

Oh the headhunter autoguns you can charge up your gun bash and knock over ragers

[pastel yew]

no crosshair replacer

?

honestly that mod is like

essential to me

I could not play without it with a lot of weapons

[sleek garden]

I see the crosshair

Not sure what you mean

[pastel yew]

no crosshair replacer

I have a mod that lets me swap the default ones to

a dot

because why would I want the vague suggestion of area

[tall torrent]

Just use rapid fire crosshair

[sleek garden]

I think in the foundryplex patch they reworked the crosshairs and now they are very accurate to the bloom

[tall torrent]

It’s in “interface” settings u don’t need a mod for it

[pastel yew]

that at least wasn't always the case

you can swap it to a dot?

[faint beacon]

Yes

Iirc you can

[tall torrent]

Well it’s been that since SoMG update

[faint beacon]

There’s also a very small one

[pastel yew]

neat

actually adding

a good feature

gold star for fatshark

lets see if we can get fullauto in too

that'd be nice

[tall torrent]

It came out 3 months ago

[sleek garden]

They did also reowkr the crosshairs

In general

[tall torrent]

And the crosshairs are fairly accurate now

[idle swallow]

Need to let me make my own custom crosshair

[tall torrent]

To actual spread

[sleek garden]

I remember not liking it at first but they all are very accurate

[pastel yew]

my one wish would be dedicated light attack and heavy attack keys

[tall torrent]

Just put rapid fire on every weapon

[tall torrent]

Nah the current implementation is better

[sleek garden]

Why

[pastel yew]

spam clicking or holding fucks my fingers

[tame lodge]

2 heavy bashes and Crushers step back (needs confirmation)

[pastel yew]

its not as bad anymore but a previous medication made the game

almost unplayable

without fullauto and keep swinging

[sleek garden]

I think so

[pastel yew]

being able to change ping colours

for colour blind people

or for those that just struggle to see generall

would also be nice

spidey sense mode as base game option for hearing impaired

there are a lot of mods that add accessability to the game that should just be in the game

[grand perch]

while we're at it: all tactical axe's bash attack staggers muties if you hit the head

[faint beacon]

Correct

Shovel and Taxe can do this

I’m unsure what other melees can hard stagger a charging mutant

[pastel yew]

dueling sword thrust maybe?

not that it would matter since...

you can just one shot them anyway

[tall torrent]

Duelling sword (all)
Tac axe (all)
Sapper shovel (standard)
Combat axe (Antax)

[last parcel]

yeah

[grand perch]

oh the antax is able as well? thats good to know

also the other shovels can too, oneshotting muties is sort of a stagger innit

[last parcel]

sometimes the body keeps flying though

[pastel yew]

catching a mutant or a dog just right with a melee weapon

watching them zip away into the sky

need a basebal bat or something for the humies

[idle swallow]

Twacking a dog with a shovel heavy mid pounce is pure dopamine

[hollow turtle]

Lol flying dog still a thing?

Could've sworn they fixed that a while ago.

[thorn lark]

I've never flown a dog 😦

[uncut pebble]

Ds special headshot can.

Oh right someone else said that...

[unique orchid]

Charged thammer

[shadow dagger]

had one do a cartwheel yesterday when someone whacked it during the pounce ready animation

I think oggy rock hitting a dog in midair also still works

I hope it does, anyways

[terse idol]

Yeag it's hadd

Hard*

[tall torrent]

Dodge bar, stim UI icon, numeric UI, full auto

[pastel yew]

it would take decades of dev time to implement such things no doubt

better to release the ps5 port then start working on the switch port which will look like the original doom in terms of quality

[faint beacon]

Switch 2 port or something idfk 🗣️

[tall torrent]

Nah PlayStation port is justified

[pastel yew]

doesnt the xbox port already struggle immensely

and once again the games been basically abandonware as that's developed

remember that really nice period right after the xbox port?

where the game felt alive and got regular attention

that is sacrificed so we can get another port that will barely run

[pastel yew]

I wouldn't be surprised

[faint beacon]

God people will not stop talking about the rumors of their next console

[tall torrent]

I do see reports of performance issues on Xbox on the forums but I also see a ton of Xbox players in my lobbies

[pastel yew]

I don't

not that I doubt they exist just

[faint beacon]

You're blessed imo

[pastel yew]

why make a game for a system that cannot run it

I forget the versions of the xbox but from my understanding

one is barely able to get an unstable 30fps

[tall torrent]

It can run though

[pastel yew]

and the other 60

I don't think I'd class unstable 30fps as running

especially in a game like this where reactions can be so tight

[tall torrent]

On series S yea

But for console, 60fps is still the standard

That’s still the industry standard

[pastel yew]

unstable 60 is what I've heard so that could mean a lot of things

[faint beacon]

Series X is standard 60 FPS

S?

[pastel yew]

also then server issues are a lot worse

[faint beacon]

Idk why the hell they made the S

to be brutally honest

its so bad

[pastel yew]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[faint beacon]

TRUE

[tall torrent]

It’s too much of a downgrade

That’s the problem

[pastel yew]

at least its not as bad the cyberpunk launch which was literally unplayable

playing this game on a controller also sounds

very not fun

[tall torrent]

But console people are fine with 60fps

[faint beacon]

Its the XB1 S hardware

but able to run New Gen games

literally

[tall torrent]

It’s up to preference

[pastel yew]

I mean

I guess

but I have never seen a console player do well

not even once

there comes a point where one input method is just worse

[tall torrent]

That’s not really justification for “they don’t deserve to play this game” imo

[pastel yew]

I mean I'd justify it in that the systems struggle to handle it, can't confirm it but earlier someone had mentioned horde sizes decreased after the xbox port

on top of that the development for people that had already purchased the game comes to a complete stand still

of no updates forever

[tall torrent]

Horde size decrease, elite spawn increase

They spawned less poxwalkers and more elites & specials

[pastel yew]

I would eat my hat, if the exact time the patches slowed to a stop from a reasonable pace

wasnt when they started the ps5 port

at least this time the game is in a working position but what about when the xbox port was being made/

I was there day 1, the game was in a shit state

[tall torrent]

Aren’t we getting the biggest update for the game yet in 8 days

[pastel yew]

it was like that until the port was done

[pastel yew]

no?

it's just a rework to crafting and a new map

that matters very little to me honestly

compared to the skill tree patch?

[tall torrent]

2nd biggest ig

[pastel yew]

it's not just about one big patch or not though like

after the xbox port we got like what

5 pretty reasonable patches

back to back

and an even t

and new maps new weapons

then nothing

radio silence

almost literally nothing until now

maybe I'm just being a bit of a conspiracy theorist

but there is no way the ps5 port has nothing to do with that

[tall torrent]

What’s wrong with porting to ps5 anyway

[pastel yew]

I wouldnt mind it if it didn't come at the cost of the game itself

it feels like shit to be continuously neglected in favour of releasing to a new market

when the actual game has basically felt unfinished the whole time

this was especially the case with the xbox port

I was there from beta like

the game was abandoned so they could sell to a new market

[tall torrent]

After the next update it’s basically all patched up

[pastel yew]

needs a significant amount of balancing

also the server issues

that are still super prevalent

[tall torrent]

I haven’t ran into disconnects in a while
But those tend to get better when updates drop

[pastel yew]

you wanna know what the funny part is about actually being there since beta

the reward I got for the beta the shitty helmet

literally clips

with the face model

[tall torrent]

Clipping is like

FS honorary tradition

[pastel yew]

yup

the state of the cosmetics is

pretty silly

[tall torrent]

I figured out smth tho

Some of the “weird muscle rendering through clothing” stuff

Are caused by having mesh LOD set too low

[pastel yew]

that is super odd but I guess it makes sense

not the issue in my case though as I think I've got everything on high

[tall torrent]

Cadian Armor (sleeve roll) has that problem at <1 mesh LOD

I put mine to 1.5 and now it’s fine

[pastel yew]

all I'm saying is maybe they could have someone check the cosmetics they charge silly amounts of money for

[tall torrent]

I don’t care much for character cosmetics anymore

[pastel yew]

I'm not against the system of selling cosmetics but there has to be some quality control

[tall torrent]

Weapon cosmetics been good

[pastel yew]

I think the only weapon cosmetics I've bought have been so I can use the darker base colour while using weapon customization

I'm sad they

removed the stupid candle on the bolt pistol

I thought it was funny

[tall torrent]

I don’t rly care for weapon customization mod

[pastel yew]

being able to set an optic is massively helpful

[tall torrent]

A lot of instability/crashing reports I’ve seen are caused by that mod

[pastel yew]

you can also get combinations that are impossibvle

my heavy sword looks like a longsword

[tall torrent]

And the guns I play don’t need it

[pastel yew]

that's fair I tend to drift towards marksman type weapons

hit head or ded

[tall torrent]

Yea but I play laspistol / MG4 / plasma

I bypass the problem by playing with guns that have optics

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean don't need to attach optics to those they either got em or cant use em lmao

not that I ever aim with the laspistol anyway

very rare

weapons with good hipfire feel dope

[tall torrent]

Also, afaik

Porting game is

Not necessarily the same department as “making new stuff for existing game”

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean they're not gonna be the ones modelling stuff

but they will be the people implementing that new stuff into the code or whatever

[tall torrent]

That doesn’t change “what gets made” tho

[pastel yew]

I mean we can see a clear correlation between times we know a port is being worked on

and a complete drought of content

and there's reasonable reason to assume that is why

[tall torrent]

Prob before SoMG is when it started

[pastel yew]

unless the actual staff has mostly moved onto other projects which I mean

maybe

I think ps5 port was a bit before that

I also don't expect it to be too too far out

it recently got rated for ps5 in indonesia or something

[tall torrent]

No their current split is
Majority on DT
Smaller team on VT2
Unannounced 3rd project in very early stage (planning etc)

[pastel yew]

dt2 hopefully

[tall torrent]

Doubt it’ll be DT2 lol

[pastel yew]

can cope and pray

vermintide got a game 2

;-;

[tall torrent]

It’s not even in “active development” stage yet

[junior haven]

I'm hoping for BurgerTide.

[tall torrent]

Yea but that’s because VT2’s scope greatly exceeds VT1 that they can’t just patch it to become VT2

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean honestly dt has a lot figured out already

just needs more weapons

especially for psyker and ogryn ranged

and ogryn melee

more maps too

[tall torrent]

Ogryn melee weapons need to get looked at

[junior needle]

Welcome to fatshark

[pastel yew]

yeah I mean, I didnt realise the launch for v2 was as bad

[junior needle]

Neglect the game for long periods to work on a console port is their consistent playbook

[pastel yew]

I'm certainly not buying the next game fatshark make

till a year into development

[junior needle]

2 years at least

[pastel yew]

at least after year 1 I'll have an idea of the state of the game ;p

[tall torrent]

That’s gonna be like 5~6 years from now judging by how their work pacing is

[pastel yew]

idk it definitely seems like they as a company do not give a shit about the people they've already sold the game to unless they arent busy selling it to other people

I'm still pretty bitter and jaded about year 1

[tall torrent]

I didn’t play year1 because it didn’t run on my pc

[junior needle]

From postings on their linkedin, it seems likely that darktide is operating on a skeleton crew and the meat of the devs are doing a new game

[pastel yew]

why's it seem like vermintide gets more cool shit than darktide

post darktides launch

they're playin favourites

[terse idol]

They dooo adjust them later thankfully

[pastel yew]

though I know the real answer is that vermintide is a finished game and darktide needs to be fixed primarily

[terse idol]

Evidentally their qa just isn't there

Or it's outsourced

I imagine there's an acceptable level of jank

[pastel yew]

I'd be surprised if it's outsourced and not just

[junior needle]

They borrowed vermintide devs to try and unfuck darktide before release, who then went back to vermintide after

[pastel yew]

not done

[terse idol]

And then down the road they just release it

[tall torrent]

Pretty sure majority are on DT rn

[pastel yew]

I think a lot of cosmetics were made in one big batch right?

since a load of them got data mined

[terse idol]

Nothing is ever that broken
Maybe not besides the candle cosmetic that blocks the irons

[pastel yew]

so maybe there was just mega crunch to have them there n ready

and the checks just never happened

[terse idol]

Like ahh

Yeag

It's probably a level of crunch to get them out

[junior needle]

If they are we're not seeing any results from it

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1chvdhq/fatshark_has_started_to_work_on_an_unannounced/

[terse idol]

And then qa just solves major clipping or physics stuff

Me as I need to mental gymnastics

[junior needle]

But here's my source on this possibility

[terse idol]

A fatsharg game original IP with the combat system they made

[tall torrent]

That’s 5 months ago and they said it themselves that majority are on DT

[pastel yew]

I think the nice thing about warhammer is having that established thing to draw from

[junior needle]

Where did they say this?

[pastel yew]

like you can release a warhammer or 40k think and not really have to establish much of the setting since most people coming in know

any new IP will have to really stand out

[tall torrent]

I forgot, too long and too lazy to check

[lavish token]

I can guarantee it

[junior needle]

If they really are all hands on deck for darktide, they must have a whole lot of hands doing absolutely nothing

[lavish token]

They are not even in pre production for dt2

[tall torrent]

That’s if there’s a dt2

[lavish token]

There will be

Entire audience is gw nerds

[tall torrent]

In several years from now maybe

[lavish token]

2027-8

[tall torrent]

Idk what direction they want to take DT after itemization

[lavish token]

Finding a combat director should be the priority

[toxic leaf]

id like to see failable objectives, not just losing because you got team wiped

[terse idol]

That'd suck ass ima be real chief

As long as it doesn't fail the entire mission

[toxic leaf]

no, fail the entire mission

[terse idol]

Me as I fail to complete an objective in 5 minutes after my team goes down

And I'm almost recovered

[toxic leaf]

anything to add some layer of difficulty that doesnt involve spamming specialists at us and then doesnt boil down to, did you load into a game with someone capable of killing all ranged targets (if not you)

[orchid hemlock]

Oh shit is this the infamous "Fatshark bad" conspiracy theory post every week?

[terse idol]

It just sounds really bad

Single player games can get away with it

If you're telling me I wasted 30 minutes

Because we couldn't complete a

5 minute objective

Because I'm playing auric damn

[toxic leaf]

i often waste 30m+ because someone goes down in a bad situation, including myself

[terse idol]

I'm be craazy

[toxic leaf]

i dont see how this is any different

[lavish token]

Fatshark should never add something that could auto fail missions

Not should, would*

[junior needle]

You don't need a conspiracy theory to prove fatshark bad

[toxic leaf]

im for it, shorter missions with failable objectives that send you back to spawn

you didnt defend the train? right to jail, right away

[lavish token]

They won’t even fix spawn rates because the community as a whole would riot over “difficulty increases”

[toxic leaf]

lol

[junior needle]

What's wrong with spawn rates?

[somber axle]

Idk a version of Hab Dreyko where the tree becomes an increasing threat that can become dangerous enough to cause a team wipe would put stress into doing the objective and not just spending 10 minutes running in circles fighting elites/specials/hordes

[lavish token]

They broke event hordes in February

[terse idol]

I'm conflicted

Like

[junior needle]

People still wouldn't do the objective properly

[terse idol]

It's very easy for teams who have no problems

[orchid hemlock]

My dude I got poxburstered behind a door from a poxburster that literally spawned the momment I swung my sword THRU THE DOOR

[terse idol]

The teams this punishes the most are already teams that struggle

[vestal widget]

i would like more auric maelstroms on board + maelstrom quickplay so people can fill in for leavers when we join late in queue timer (although maelstrom with 3 players + bot turns out to provide a nice level of difficulty for where my stack are rn)

[terse idol]

Not the teams that are like the inquisition's finest kill team

[junior needle]

I think enemies just appearing out of thin air isn't what the guy was referring to

[toxic leaf]

listen im just saying thats my opinion, its kind of boring to have difficulty be, spam specialist waves at you to see if something cracks

[somber axle]

It just means people who do the objective properly will see virtually no change but struggling teams get more pressure and it becomes more of a DPS check or CC check to keep the ai director away from one person long enough to do an objective before the threat grows

[terse idol]

It's fine to have an opinion

I will fight back

[terse idol]

Yeah

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/drago-rocky-if-he-if-he-dies-he-dies-gif-10570702

[terse idol]

It makes it so weaker teams lose more often on those objectives

Strong teams will just

Vibe

[lavish token]

Weaker teams still fail no matter what

[somber axle]

That's already how it is tbh

[junior needle]

You also die when this happens

[terse idol]

In that case then not much changes like

[somber axle]

Weak teams fall over a lot in auric quickplay

[vestal widget]

i feel like we could have acclimatized to the shooter changes if they'd kept those, they felt pretty brutal when i was used to basically ignoring all shooters but i was playing that way on purpose

[somber axle]

Good teams fly through it super smooth

[lavish token]

I stop killing specials for 2 mins and they die pretty quickly

[somber axle]

Make it a cool death

[terse idol]

Well kiiiinda because it just doesn't get harder, it gets "harder" cause the longer you go the more resources you use so the higher chance you fail

[somber axle]

Make the tree grow a mouth with teeth and turn branches into tentacles. Make it grab me and eat me

Give me a worthy death for lasting longer than the rest

[terse idol]

So it's a filter

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-jack-sparrow-attack-pirates-of-the-caribbean-sword-fight-gif-10183419

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/seymour-feed-me-plant-little-shop-of-horrors-gif-17120401

The reality:

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-26007803

Stop trying to insert your fetishes into the game

[terse idol]

Look there ain't furries yet! But I'm trying

[somber axle]

A better death than 5 poxbursters clipping into each other totally silent suddenly appearing around a corner

[terse idol]

[somber axle]

Wait what

There's no fetish, only a desire for more horror

[terse idol]

The tree getting more fucked up and slapping you and enemies alike would be the best

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/angela-silent-hill-2-silent-hill-silent-hill-fire-fire-gif-16001529329585382947

Do a map burning slowly

You need to proceed through a burning building before the flames consume the environment and you

[terse idol]

Do a flooded map

[somber axle]

Water slowly rising and killing you if you're under the water for more than a few seconds would be wild

[terse idol]

😌

Ogrynns being the last alive

[somber axle]

Here's 8 Crushers and 8 Maulers, go fast or die

[junior needle]

Not before we get the night lords tshirt cosmetic

[terse idol]

n

[tame lodge]

[somber axle]

Weird question

If they did a Darktide 2 and didn't do Tyranids what other enemy faction might they add in?

[tall torrent]

Play consignment yard middle event, you’ll know

It straight up does not spawn elite waves half the time

[somber axle]

Another chaos cult feels too samey

[junior needle]

I do not pay attention

All I know is kill

[tame lodge]

T'au
Easy

[somber axle]

How do people remember what map names are

[lucid radish]

Need Tau’s rn

[vestal widget]

i wonder if they're going to have to up elite spawns anyway, crushers are going to be moving from critically endangered to the extinct in the wild list with ds4 vets and melee psykers and all the other new player power

[tame lodge]

You remember one part of the map and associate with the name

[somber axle]

Tau would be like that brief time they buffed scab shooters to be slightly more dangerous and made everyone upset LOL

[vestal widget]

it's already kinda sad if my carapace solution on a build is slow, my friends are gonna be stealing all the crusher kills. more so next patch

[terse idol]

Honestly after seeing sm2 Tzangors are cool... but yeah Tau
If we want to get really unhinged Orkz

I could see a world with orkz

Issue being they're all pretty chunky

[junior needle]

It was both shooter types iirc, and dregs were the most dangerous

Also they were drastically more dangerous

[tall torrent]

Stalkers don’t have damage differences between scab & Dreg

[somber axle]

That brief difficulty ramp up showed most Darktide players could not actually fight the Tau

[terse idol]

You could have like Fire team veterans

For tau

I mean all this is is just

Snipers-

[junior needle]

For that patch I think they did

[terse idol]

The enemy

[tall torrent]

The main difficulty spike with shooter buff was to scab shooters because they chunk u at 30+ damage per shot after toughness break and they got better at breaking toughness

[junior needle]

However I have no objective evidence on me currently so I could be misremembering

[vestal widget]

actually had to switch a few builds to have a bit more sustain and not ignore lone shooters that patch

[junior needle]

But I know for sure the yellow shooters were chunking the shit out of my toughness

ACTUALLY

wAIT

I have videos

[vestal widget]

skill issue mostly tho, just used to borderline ignoring them bcuz they tickle

[junior needle]

When was that patch?

[tall torrent]

SoMG early on

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

[somber axle]

Shooters were spending more time out of cover and would fire more frequently to try to encourage people to use cover and suppression. They also got a nerf to their time in cover when suppressed to keep them pinned down a bit longer but no one actually wants to take cover and use suppression and players have been conditioned to charge firing lines to get into melee so people were programmed to walk into firing squads LOL

I felt bad for Ogryns tho

The new map with that section after the lift having virtually no cover also hurt people a bunch

I miss it tbh

[tall torrent]

Yea there’s no damage difference between them, Dreg just has a longer burst but also longer burst delay

The per-shot damage is same between them

[somber axle]

Also there was an accuracy buff to Gunners over longer distances

Iirc

[tall torrent]

Scab shooters, not gunners

The green visor lasmen

[somber axle]

Didn't the gunners also get an accuracy buff or was I mistaken

I thought for sure they also got buffed

[tall torrent]

Forgot

[junior needle]

There was something related to accuracy as well iirc

[tall torrent]

They removed the shooter changes soon after

[somber axle]

People were more focused on the non-elite shooter buff though

[junior needle]

The end result was they would absolutely gun you down

[tall torrent]

They should rly just
Make suppressed shooters & stalker charge into melee

Have them die for their beliefs in the face of enemy fire

[somber axle]

I want them to be more active

They sorta sit still and pop out of cover occasionally to fire off a short burt then return to hiding

It would be fun if they split off into small groups and attempted to maneuver to awkward angles to flank the player while they're engaged in melee with hordes

Get high ground instead of helplessly shooting into poxwalker backs

Make them smarter

[tall torrent]

They kind of do

[somber axle]

Shooting more often made them oppressive for damage against people running out in the open but shooters were still really dumb and predictable

[tall torrent]

But their flanking behaviour only works on lone players

U can trigger it in meat grinder

[somber axle]

They still just sat tight in one spot and only relocate when you charge into melee

If they survive long enough to run

[tall torrent]

But in a live game their aggro is split between multiple players and don’t flank as much

[somber axle]

They should turn up that behavior somehow

Add more high ground they can access

[tall torrent]

It’s similar to how if u spawn multiple melee elites in meat grinder they spread out and try to surround u

[somber axle]

If they were firing on players from ledges inaccessible by melee they would be a more persistent threat

There's like only a few spots I can think of that they do that with and usually they jump down into melee for no reason like they're Stormtroopers charging at Jedi

[junior needle]

In the patch notes it said only scab shooters got the accuracy

[gilded rock]

I need to make a grenade gambler build already

[tall torrent]

Yea they got better at sniping ur toughness

[junior needle]

But this may have been a classic case of fatshark forgetting to put everything in the patch notes

[tall torrent]

Boltpistol grenadier

[gilded rock]

Why boltpistol?

[junior needle]

One of the blessings affects grenades

Only reason

[faint beacon]

Lethal Prox

[gilded rock]

Ooo

Yeah taking that then

[gilded rock]

Shredder instead of krak?

[tall torrent]

Obviously

[gilded rock]

Wasn't obvious to me

I assume a melee that can deal with crushers then

[tall torrent]

Power sword 6

Prob the only melee that fits into this build

U could run power sword 3 too ig

[gilded rock]

Chord seems like it would also work well enough

[tall torrent]

Kind of, but chainsword doesn’t do well on carapace for veteran

[gilded rock]

Fair enough

[lucid radish]

Power sword seems to be a master key for veteran

[fossil basalt]

Indignatus is better than psword IMO

[tame lodge]

Yeah, yours

[tall torrent]

It’s a low point cost melee that does mostly everything well

And grenadier build can’t afford melee talents

[thorn lark]

but mobility :/

[faint beacon]

still coping the rashad got buffed

Oh who am I kidding everyone is going to use the Dueling swords

Literally I should make a bingo sheet of things you'll see or witness on UnL launch

[tame lodge]

I'm ok with axes getting buffed

After all

Bromentum is the problem

[tall torrent]

Heavy attack maniac ADM being buffed is fine

I hope they look at BM soon

[faint beacon]

They need to give BM a limit instead of oh its infinite cleave

fuck you

[tall torrent]

It’s not infinite cleave

But killing 4 per swing is way too good

[lucid radish]

Doesn’t Brutal momentum just ignore enemy mass? In theory, infinite cleave?

[last parcel]

mods, post the brutal momentum first target explanation

[still flare]

Apologies if this has already been addressed somewhere, but will the exe stance buff proc weapon specialist swapping? AKA swapping between melee and ranged can keep stance active?

Not saying it'd be a great idea with point economy, but

[tall torrent]

Up to 4 targets

[lucid radish]

Still pretty good I suppose

[tall torrent]

It’s too good

Should be 2~3

[last parcel]

it wasn’t explicitly stated in the notes but people seem hopeful about it
i’m assuming it won’t but will try it later anyways
edit oh wait i read that wrong and thought you just meant activating exe to get the ranged ws buff when you had a melee out. swapping while it’s already active is intended to work

[tall torrent]

They said it won’t drop when u swap weapons

So presumably yes

[junior haven]

Someone say Cleave?

I call it the weed whacker.

[still flare]

Tyty

[lucid radish]

Mk III cleave is too superior

[junior haven]

Just melts hordes. I love it.

[junior needle]

Is no cycler a thing now?

[last parcel]

yeah unpowered sword for life

make it really special

[junior needle]

I don't believe you

[junior haven]

I know how to cadence my dodges and cycles so its not a problem. cycler is a crutch.

[junior needle]

You'd be much better off using a heavy sword I think

[junior haven]

which im also looking forward to, but there is nothing wrong with this sword

[junior needle]

Oh, is that not in the game yet?

[last parcel]

26th

[junior needle]

whoops

[compact plank]

I heard something about executor stance getting some reload buffs, is it true?

[tawny badger]

did someone say exe stance reload buff

[last parcel]

no but i guess you could use that extra point to pick up a talent that increases reload speed

[hollow warren]

what's the dump stat on hellbore? Stability?

[uncut pebble]

Yes.

[hollow warren]

[uncut pebble]

Pacing your shots with charging makes stability a non issue.

[compact plank]

I miss my insta reload

[hollow warren]

best I could get from Brunt's

good thing Hadron didn't brick it

I do wonder if in the new crafting system we will be allowed to adjust the stats %

lower it somewhere and increase elsewhere

[crimson pebble]

no lowering

[hollow warren]

sad

[crimson pebble]

only increases

[pseudo fiber]

itemization save me

please itemization save me

[bold comet]

Bro. Legendary

[smoky sparrow]

is smackdown just straight up better than riposte?

[radiant chasm]

straight up worse

you have to special on a target already staggered and only lasts for 2 seconds

meanwhile knife has the best dodges in the game and riposte lasts 6 seconds

[radiant chasm]

fair enough

but still, special on an already staggered target, vs dodging any melee or ranged attack

[shadow dagger]

i feel comically stupid but

what causes the occasional iag faster reload

[heavy rover]

I have finally found infernus iv for recon lasguns. praise the omnissiah

[last parcel]

something to do with sprinting. there's a video somewhere in the depths of this chat
edit: #veteran-class message

[smoky sparrow]

ye ur right, thx!

[orchid tartan]

Veteran done

3 classes done, only ogryn left

[trim steppe]

Ogryn ones are easy, but take a long time

[trim steppe]

Yeah the BLO penance is like, 90 minutes of non-stop stubber fire. Takes so many games

[tacit holly]

So whats the play if I havent played in a bit but plan on picking back up in the next update...destroy all my stuff and earn as many blessings as possible?

[inland orchid]

The more blessings you got unlocked the more xp you’ll have to work with when the update drops

Higher tier blessings give-

Yea

I’d keep any weapon ur not enjoying the locks on, since those are gonna be destroyed too when the update drops

The locks I mean not the whole weapon

[tacit holly]

copy, thanks!

[trim steppe]

Keep at least 1 weapon from each family with good base stat distribution. Apparently all weapons will be able to be upgraded up to 380, but you cant choose which stats max out, its based on the weapon. So, good stat distribution will still be important and RNG based. Also weapons will be able to be freely swapped between Mks, so you only need 1 good one from each family. So strip as many T4s (and even T3s) off of weapons with bad stats

Locks are going away so the only rolls that matter are base stats. They said in a Q&A that if you have all T3 and T4 blessings for a weapon, that is probably enough for max mastery right on patch day

[faint beacon]

Close to finishing my Deathwatch Space Shark

Just need the leg, shouldn't be too long

[junior haven]

columnus brauto just drinks ammo

blergh

[smoky sparrow]

also eats souls

with onslaught and fire frenzy/dum dum

[faint beacon]

Grauto is comedy for suppression builds

admittedly its borderline throwing but its

really fucking funny

[idle pecan]

Would terrifying barrage be good on any meme builds?

[smoky sparrow]

i think you answered your own question.
good only om meme builds

[idle pecan]

Could someone give me a meme build with it

[somber axle]

I have discovered a funny glitch purely because of Exe Stance

On a High Intensity Vent Purge Sniper Gauntlet Auric Damnation run 8 snipers spawned near the elevator in a room and then all crouched down as though waiting for the squad to walk near them but we'd already jumped down to the train to begin turning off the anti-air defenses

they refused to move the entire fight and the final segment was a cake walk

it felt like there were fewer special/elite spawns because of it too

hardly anything appeared

I only knew they were all stuck by the elevator room because of the funny Exe Stance wall hacks

ok it wasn't an elevator but like the airlock thing

[smoky sparrow]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d0b7785-dd97-47cf-80e2-5fb7b8651ad2/i-tried-to-make-the-worst-one-possible

[last parcel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cfc7d3c-64d7-4e57-a5a8-e99188865fdd/s-s-suppwessin-fiya

[smoky sparrow]

that is usable

[trail totem]

this any good? havent played much plasma since the cleave buff

[smoky sparrow]

disgusting

pretty good

take off volatile and stamina for whatever you want

[last parcel]

i used to be an honest soldier... now i spy on heretics

[trail totem]

is it better than my old one?

blaze away feels like a waste

[idle pecan]

What is with you and all the furry stuff

[smoky sparrow]

depends, i like to run full crits with blaze away and gets hot

both are very good

buy it

so you have 2 to choose from

[trail totem]

full crits meaning deadshot?

[smoky sparrow]

no i mean

crit chance

crit dmg

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-watchingyou-stalker-creepy-gif-9514634

[smoky sparrow]

still no blaze away 4

[trail totem]

will they make BA t1 through 4 with the next update?

[smoky sparrow]

no clue

i sure hope so

[trail totem]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-i-need-more-power-dmc-devil-may-cry-gif-13108410

[smoky sparrow]

there should be no reason why some blessings are limited to certain tiers

i am so glad they are removing locks next patch

i am going to run so much meme shit now that i dont have to worry about my gear

[trail totem]

isnt there another limit on "mod points" for blessings n stuff?

[smoky sparrow]

wdym?

[trail totem]

thought different blessings and perks had mod point weight value assigned to them

and you're still limited on some of the combos

unless i misread the overview post

[junior haven]

man im just looking forward to being done with zealot penances so i can move on from this goofy build.

[slow sky]

https://tenor.com/view/enricopucci-happy-happy-enrico-pucci-jojo-made-in-heaven-jojo-gif-26801198

[fair river]

I cant wait for the update next week

But I got an essay due the day right after the update comes out

Mfw

[grand perch]

So write it now

[shadow basin]

of course it's 369 too, as the emperor wills it

[tall torrent]

Swap flak to carapace

[thorn lark]

(on my zealot)

(perks have already changed, ahh it's so good to have unlocked perks)

[earnest bone]

wtf gae rolls

[unborn moss]

what blessings would you go on knife for better hoard clear

like fleshtearer mecry killer or somthing?

[earnest bone]

riposte precog

fleshtearer without uncanny is useless, as for uncanny/flesh tearer, it works as horde clear, but only useful if you are soloing (otherwise trash/horde mobs die way faster than FT kicks in), main purpose for that is to easily bleed maulers/crushers (not horde clear)

[unborn moss]

thx

dont really have problems with anything else I just plasma gun it but dont want to waste ammo clearing so I feel like clear knife might feel better

[earnest bone]

You may also try

Bleed talent + Lacerate + Uncanny Strikes

maybe you'l like this one

Bleed talent + Mercy Killer + Uncanny Strikes is pretty strong, i run this myself

this can both horde clear (Mk6 knife) and antielite/boss

[unborn moss]

id have to lose field improv but Ill try it out it does sound fun

[earnest bone]

[unborn moss]

didnt read the bleed talent thats better than trying to force crit for mercy killer

xd

[earnest bone]

you can just wait till Sep 26

and make a bunch of knifes

[earnest bone]

yeah

Mercy Killer/Uncanny works awesome on Veteran

Zealot can use it too, but it's still RNG dependant on crit and that could be frustrating at times

while Vet is 100% reliable

As for Riposte/Precog, it's better on Zealot (100% crit rate)

[unborn moss]

was trying knife out on zealot but

plasmagun just too nice

do hoards have any armor to rend with uncanny

or does it interact with damage as more than just armor pen

[earnest bone]

it does add bonus damage against maniacs and unyelding

like +25%

+-

apart from giving you bonus damage versus flak and carapace

wont work for unarmoured

and i forgot if it works on infested or not

if you want to go full pervert

i recommend onslaught VId

with Infernus/Dumdum

(that's a support build with Smoke Grenade and Stealth)

[unborn moss]

shit perk levels for recon unfortunatly

blessing*

[earnest bone]

September 26

The Day Everything Will Change

[unborn moss]

what are they even doing

didnt read it

[earnest bone]

all slots

unlocked

and you can learn blessing by just using the weapon

[unborn moss]

oh wtf

[earnest bone]

and all weapons will have 380 potential even if you buy 340 wep

you will see how it will be at 380 and can use resources to upgrade to 380

[unborn moss]

wonder if they will add somthing else to grind at

I like grinding for weapon upgrades its just annoying how rng it is

[earnest bone]

you will grind

• Perfect base weapons if you want to
• Grind Weapon Mastery to learn blessings easy way

and just have fun i guess without casino

trying all weapons available

without investing 50 gaming hours (resources) per weapon

[unborn moss]

100% better for the majority of players

[earnest bone]

yeah

its an awesome change

[unborn moss]

im just grind braind I think this is a good change

[earnest bone]

one of the main complains from a lot of new and semi-new players is RNG casino with both main stats and blessings/perks

[unborn moss]

precog mercy killer sounds so based tbh

[earnest bone]

its awesome on zealot, but that's because you get 100% crit

im not sure how it would feel on Veteran

while Bleed + Mercy Killer + Uncanny

[unborn moss]

its weakspot powerr too right?

[earnest bone]

will be stronger

yeah precog is critdmg+weakspot

but it only procs on dodge

and 2s times

its shit when you poke the boss in the ass while he's focusing on teammates

same goes for elites

[unborn moss]

ill try out both versions but I just plasma gun bosses in the face

works out alright]

[earnest bone]

just wait till Sep 26 and unleash inner beta tester

[earnest bone]

and choose what you'l like between those

[unborn moss]

tried to go back to powersword

but the lack of mobility

feels so bad now that ive tasted it

[earnest bone]

its also kinda sucks when you are overwhelmed

unless you can back yourself up with frags

[unborn moss]

spam frags ult run away with knife is a lot easier than ps

[earnest bone]

knife dodges and mobility

[unborn moss]

id prefer they just bring other weapons mobility up

not to knife levels

but at least a bit more

[earnest bone]

even Puskers these days love to run Knife over Dueling Sword

[unborn moss]

if they just nerf knife to the ground without mobility buffing anything else I riot

[earnest bone]

nah, doubt it, knife is more like falls into that "relying on players skill" category more + it has a weakness in terms of horde clear, which you can complement with either ranged or grenades

or just deal with it

since not like the horde clear is bad

[unborn moss]

it feels pretty bad but I could just be playing it wrong

have mk6 do you spam lights or still heavy combo block cancle

[earnest bone]

the only pressure i feel with knife is on Auric HISTG or Auric Mael when most teammates are dead and you must deal with everything yourself

this turns into a game of cat and mouse

[unborn moss]

yea but every other weapon would probably7 feel worse with less mobility in that situation

[earnest bone]

so you just dodge, kite and run away

avoid corners

and CC

[unborn moss]

what im really excited for are the bolter buffs

[earnest bone]

bolter deserved those and fixes for bolt pistol

will make it far less obnoxious

and more to come, since it's just a first change

[unborn moss]

hopeing pullout time is fixed and it gets 1 shot breakpoints to most smaller enemies like plasma

going between the 2 is so funny

[earnest bone]

well 1.9 to 1.6 is like 16% increase

[earnest bone]

not sure how it would feel, but sounds good

[unborn moss]

lot of situations somthing survives with a sliver of hp

so it probably will

[odd sparrow]

Only dmg buff it receives was infested dmg IIRC. But with new crafting reaching those exact breakpoints will hopefully be more consistent

[crude citrus]

The infested damage is such a joke shooting a damn dog with those feels like hitting it with a pool noodle

[unborn moss]

how do I deal more damage than the psyker in the party

thats the real question

[thorn lark]

no more weapons with personality yay, welcome to the soviet era of crafting

[earnest bone]

you mean no more shitty weapons and thrown out money

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-angry-fighting-running-attack-on-titan-gif-24674864

[earnest bone]

still there's a fishing for the base

https://tenor.com/view/ra2-red-alert2-westwood-udo-kier-nicholas-worth-gif-19587447

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

what's money when you have millions?

in a month, we'll miss the thrill of rng

[grand perch]

Hahahahaha

No

[crude citrus]

Stockholm Syndrome

[thorn lark]

''Stockholm'' fitting

[placid portal]

Red barrel + Cliff, you do the math

https://tenor.com/view/7kt-clapping-slow-clap-duke-nukem-gif-17924793

[unborn moss]

the psyker is a heretic...

ill do what needs to be done for damage

[jaunty sphinx]

Steal all of the psykers kills with the columnus

Works for me

[pastel lotus]

FATSHARK GIVE US CUSTOMIZABLE SIGHTS AND MY SOUL IS EMPEROR'S

😢

[crude citrus]

extended weapon customization mod

if youre on console you deserve it

[grand perch]

Having the choice is a bit of a dilemma for me. On one hand, iron sights feel a lot more satisfying, but proper holo sights are superior.
...went with holo on helbores, but I'll never switch back from iron sights for ilas and vraks mkVII

[trail totem]

it sure isnt a slight bit satisfying after you realize the shots you do arent actually aligned with damn sights half the time

[crude citrus]

Might be committing apostasy but I actually find iron sights nicer for aiming on some guns

IAGs I run iron sights.. but not the base ones

the vraks ones

[limber lodge]

low level wepens are um jank

[regal smelt]

This is all i use extended customization for. I hate every other part of the mod since even with most settings disabled and me only using Kantrel sights it still breaks shit.

[toxic leaf]

i didnt notice this change

bolter is going to be so back

[topaz lance]

I actually liked Vanguard 😦

[midnight totem]

Same

[crude citrus]

They should just give bolter +50% finesse or +25% dmg

Or inficleave

I mean inficleave doesnt make sense lore wise but still

[pseudo fiber]

I mean it's getting... arm based... infinite cleave

[crude citrus]

bolter headshot should be game over for all non-ogryns

the fact that its not is criminal

[idle swallow]

when was the crafting update supposed to come out I forgor💀

[rigid wadi]

26th

[crude citrus]

Love your name

[rigid wadi]

why?

[atomic zephyr]

nerf sword

[crude citrus]

deep question

[woeful ibex]

Sept 26

[crude citrus]

September 26th

[limber lodge]

pretty much

[atomic zephyr]

I can’t wait for the crafting update, so glad holding onto that bricked 378 MG1A was a good idea

[peak mountain]

any tips for begginer veteran players?

[tame lodge]

Use your melee often
Don't tunnel vision
Dodge a lot
Aim for the head

[atomic zephyr]

yeah that’s basically it

also avoid dumping shots into crowds

unless you’re in a dire emergency and your weapon is good at it

[pseudo fiber]

Push often too

[balmy flume]

Especially if using a Powersword.

Push>activate>swing.

ALWAYS. Unless you want to lose entire chunks of health and toughness.

[hard cave]

boring,,,,

[fleet wagon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/277

great mod, can put reflex sight to replace weapons with iron sights

[trail totem]

try getting that + crosshair mod and removing the iron sights outright

unmatched view, reflex sights are just useless clutter

[crude citrus]

I mean see my post above I prefer iron sights for many guns

I actually dont have a difference in accuracy for revolver iron sights vs accatrran

its more muscle memory than sights fr me

[crude citrus]

do you mean removing sights alltogether

[trail totem]

yeah

[crude citrus]

OK yeah i get you

[trail totem]

it might require a plugin though

[crude citrus]

yes Ive had that thought as well might try it

[last parcel]

the no sights plugin

[frank ether]

I really really wish some of the sight customization was baked into base game, I would much prefer using my iLas and laspistol with ironsights and a crosshair. I have considered removing the viewmodel entirely.

[gilded wraith]

Recommended perks?

[tame lodge]

Flak elites

Or maniac elites

[trim steppe]

Perfect blessings change perks

[proven cargo]

Stamina efficiency and reload speed

[regal smelt]

If being able to change sights was it's own mod, more refined with less issues and overall less jank I'd be happy. But yeah it's another feature that shouldn't be left in the dust just because modders already got it

I can't imagine trying to aim an infantry auto on console at 30fps and no reflex sight

[gilded wraith]

Thank you!

[tawny badger]

hadron do you fucking mind

[regal smelt]

I've never seen any other mission giver bitch talk us at the loss screen, it's always her

[terse idol]

Yeah cause it didn't meet her exact micro plans

[gilded wraith]

Okay, last question. I'm running Rashad and Plasma with this build

Should I go Reciprocity, or WS?

[terse idol]

She tuned like a quantum computer

She calcing my algebra while I trigonometry

[toxic leaf]

im not sure how beneficial WS is for plasma, that node is really good for revolver or crit focused weapons

maybe someone can correct me

[gilded wraith]

Yeah, I kind of want focus target, but another vet on the team normally runs it and I'm not sure if it holds much benefit when 2 vets have it.

I'm also not wonderful at tagging consistently outside of bosses.

[toxic leaf]

its still beneficial to your rashad, so may as well

[shadow dagger]

weapons specialist my goat

[toxic leaf]

weapon specialist is never a bad choice

[frank monolith]

I have failed them

[old prism]

smh couldnt solo carry, stay tf out of auric

[trim steppe]

Definitely run reciprocity. Also I'd drop both of the orange nodes and pick up weapon spec and demo stockpile

[faint beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[fair river]

I NEED IT

[tawny badger]

is jesper about to cook again

[hollow warren]

oh hey, brother

[tawny badger]

glory hunter, scrap it 😇

[hollow warren]

NO

It will be glorious once I get Gets Hot! t4 and after the crafting update

[balmy flume]

Wait new mission even.
Hot damn.

[somber axle]

New mission with a timer??

I am ready

[hard cave]

gun

sord