#veteran-class
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Vld is fun but i need a new gun
any recommends here
mostly for horde clearing
big magazine would be nice as well
The agri braced auto is a good option for that imo
it has 3 penetration so you can blast it into hordes or groups of brutes/shooters and decimate
yeah i got one with a 44 mag
i know the vlla has cleave but i have a small mag size
got a good columnus mk5 too
horde clearing with guns ðŸ˜
thats a barelling
mixed horde clearing is fine with guns but if youre shooting into poxwalkers with em
ure gonna take up all the ammo
ammo muncher is here to kill heretics and eat bullets and im out of bullets
change the columnus perk from weak spot damage to maniac. weak spot damage is a bad perk fyi
and be less effective than a psword
the columnus infantry is a really good gun but if your goal is shooting multiple targets go with the agri braced. The columnus has basically no penetration while the agri braced can hit 3 targets every bullet
Thats a great one, replace wrath with Power Cycler and thats a BIS sword
Well keep BM4 and Unyeilding 4, those are both amazing
nvm i have one on t3
T3 better than any other blessing so you might as well
yeah i got bm4 and pc3 now
should rework my talents cuz i was mainly use vlla/ weapon specialist
power t3 i get 2 hit or 3 ?
nvm
2
let go gambling for t4
it's solid, alot of decent blessings
i have spent hundreds of thousands of plasteel and millions of dockets to get t4
made two vets
hundreds of hours
i have no plasteel
start grinding
AHAHAH
quickplay special
its literally 95% of the way there
you have no clue how much that 5% unyielding and t3 bm hurt me
well im stuck with the unyielding damage
what i have
unyielding is good
sounded like it was bad thing
it is
bruh
3% weakspot and 5% unyielding is crumbs more damaging
Yeah its already perfect from a practical perspective but i want it to be the emperors own sword
anyone got a good dick around with a shredder class build
10% ammo gives 1 ammo in the clip and 10 in reserve

Gotta show off those RNG godrolls before the update makes them less rare
true
my favourite gun
yummy
You and I have the same sword
Ok last one
yummy
https://i.gyazo.com/b9dbf405fb67b8c32a43a06b8d6ddfec.png is this salvageable? what do I change on it?
maniac and flak tho id prefer puncture over deadly accurate it works fine
been tryin to grind for t4 blessings by doing green to blue upgrades any tips?
the higher the rating the more likely you are to get t4s
if youre grinding for t4s upgrade 360+
I also believe purple > orange upgrades have a higher chance to yield t4s
but obviously more plasteel intensive so green > blue is probably more optimal overall
or just wait 10 days
wrinting t4s engages my eve brain..
Basically what John said. Buying 350+ greens from the armory and upping them to blue is the most cost effective way to get blessings. It will be like 4/5 T3s and 1/5 T4s or something along those lines. Purple to orange is probably closer to a 50/50 of T3 and T4 but WAY more expensive so I don't recommend that
The other thing to do is look at Melk's shop every day and pick up any T4s you see in there, most of the weapons are junk but its the best place to find T4s
Thanks didnt know that tier was taken into account as well
for t4 specifically upgrade to gold
better chance
but in 10 days the system changes so u don't have to spend all ur resources rn
is performance worse than it was a few weeks ago
im feeling frame drops a lot more often
havent played in a month or so
I wonder if this will be perfect once the new update hits
XD. They better not do that
well lets see if fatshark will be fitshark come this 26th
hopefully it will replace the one I have
try parts with bridges and hordes incoming and just practice the arc
one the sand missions there's a part where you bring batteries to the center to stop a fan, the platform above has good distance from a horde spawn
If only elite was weakspot dmg. 
wym elite is the ideal perk
bolt pistol with lethal proximity increases explosion radius by 25%, stacks with grenade tinkerer too
Nah, weakspot with finnese
bro about to summon the horde telling you weakspot perk is dogshit
amazing on high finesse weapons
Gotta be baiting 
its the best in slot
bro summoning the horde rn

covers monsters, chaf, maniacs and everything
I agree though, weakspot is the best
Especially for beast of nurgle
The head counts as weakspot too 
cannot wait for crafting update so I can use weakspot and critical damage perks on my 80/80/80 finesse, first target, penetration knife
did they actually fixed crit dmg?
It's working as intended
crit dmg x 10%?
that was a nice out of season april fools joke
Tell 
They don't even need to change their damage formulas, just bump it up to 25% crit damage and it's actually a choice on some weapons
for 25% you get 17.5 crit dmg buff
so you get 70+17.5 = 87.5
so might as well use crit chance for higher output
if they actually fixed it, it would be
crit dmg + weapon dmg x 25%
but FS code is using crit dmg x 25%
source: AngryCrab.

im getting blamed by a psyker with a melee bounty for using weapons specialist
quickplay shenaniganery is ever present i guess
im running wep specialist only (in all builds) and never saw anyone mentioning it
must be someone with insider info
as in they made a conversational complaint about melee bounties when the map started and got mad close to halfway through when he noticed i was shooting things at close range
dont like - reroll, the option is there tho, but for melee bounties you can use knife or DSword on Pusker and be fine
but people just like to complain

catch me being okay with melk giving me a 1k dreg ranged bounty on my oggy when i still dont have a good achlys yet

he loves giving me 1k ranged for some reason
ive never paid attention to bounties and i still complete all of them on all chars
if you play the game they just complete themselves
Bounties are done within 1-4 (at worst) games
aside from
16 grimms/books
this garbage should be toned down
you are assuming i dont pick up grims
to 8 at max
which would be hereteical
even if you play Scriptures only
its 6 matches
and that's boldly assuming two other people will carry a book too
ive went like 6 games with only 200 dreg ranged at one point, no scab maelstroms or nothing
which often they are not willing to do
hey buddy watch it

i had a game yday of damnation hi int where ppl wouldnt pick up the 2nd grim
cuz they were like level 30-40
they wiped and i soloed a chaos spawn
some guy silently picked it up afterwards
was great
first game after my break and i instinctively queued into auric mael
osha violation modifiers
that was... a warmup game
made it most of the way through too
Can't wait for the update. Won't be playing before it drops.

difficulty 6 when
I am a little worried about the new update though
not just because power creep but the new crafting system seems to force you to use grey weapons assuming you didnt already have blessings
unless I am misunderstanding
which means the grind whenever a new weapon comes out is gonna be like sm2 which I hope isnt the case
you can still rng roll at hadron to use blessings you haven't unlocked yet
that's reassuring
I thought the new mastery system would completely wipe the old system out
meaning the new weaponj release = grinding with that weapon despite not having anything cool
whereas the current system allows you to just craft a good weapon out of the gate if you have some plasteel
if you're spending 1 mil your standards are way way way too high
the grind to get a weapon that is strong is very small, the grind to get a weapon that is perfect is huge and its a marginal amount of strength increase
. . .?
good weapons that are easy to acquire are significantly stronger than grey weapons
perfected weapons are infrequently noticeably stronger than good weapons
you're forcing grind onto yourself for no reason
like I dont see the point
eh I mean there are always other weapons I want to try
the difference of a 300 weapon and a 380 weapon is marginal
but that wasnt your original point
well I guess if you want perfected rolls 
but idk I'm happy with good, there's no difficulty that demands even good weapons currently
I mean 300 to 380 is gonna be different
but often times the mid points can be as strong as max strength depending on stat rolls
normally I have to craft 15-20 max before I have 2-3 weapons I can test build
to see what I get
mhm, I do sorta hate that level of forcing difficulty though since
it removes complexity from the game
no creating weapons to fill roles, no build to specialise
they've acknowledged people are unhappy about the difficulty but we'll see how long it takes for them to bring the game back to a point where auric damnation is the normal difficulty
I think most people that have a fair bit of time in the game or play regularly think the games too easy
even friends I've gotten into the game and spedrun through levels 1-30 with xp curios werent struggling on auric 4
and thats as almost completely new players
I think casual players view nerfs like its gonna helldivers the game though
why nerf.. buff everything
think that mentality is pretty easily shown to be silly though
I mean my friends have the advantage of being shown the game by me I suppose since I can directly answer any questions, give build advice, show how to dodge specific things
so they don't have to go through the trial and error
which speeds things up
I think most darktide players are just casual players though
the only difficulty factors in this game are teammates and game performance
its why you should never rely on your team for anything
just support them as best you can
if you need a team mate do something 50/50 chance it wont happen
wolfer sending a 20 fps drop when the sniper flashes
literally played a damnation game an hour ago with a vet who got flopped by two poxbursters
always shove em yourself lmao
its more like they barrel you off the map or watch you get eaten by dog 10 meters in front of them
I've only had the barrel one once
and that was
probably one of the worst games I've played
I spent like 10-15 minutes trying to solo the cyber daemons because no one else would do them but I lacked the speed to both kill horde and grab the nodes
they did nothing
You can pretend like you're gods gift to gayming but you'll make a mistake or the game will fail an audio que and there goes your run because your teammates couldn't tie a shoe to save their life
but the thing is
ideally winrate would be like 70-80% for 4 skilled players in auric damnation
but right now its more like that with 1 skilled player or higher
you are probably not paying enough attention
true have you ever played a game with only good players?
if I Wasnt paying attention wouldnt that mean I get caught out though
?
every time I get hit by something I recognise that I've heard it and regret not reacting fast enough
its a skill issue when I fail not a bug issue
Most specials have ques for spawning let alone attacking you
they have movement sounds though
among other ques
all of them
the crackling, the claws tapping
if you've got headphones on you can almost always tell theres one near you without a spawn sound or an attack sound
I could pile you under a mountain of ''evidence'' of audio shitting itself
but its been 2 years
and frankly I am tired of having this conversation with people
I'm just saying I've never had that issue
its too wide spread to be copium like
I'm just lucky IG
the emperor’s chosen
literally just doors that are fucky with poxbursters
since they can spawn and insta det
dogs quite often skip the howl(the one that plays when they spawn) entirely and can go from sprint to 180 turn pounce in like a single frame
I don't really see the need to complain about it because honestly the game has become really easy
we are very overpowered and just the tiniest amount of coordination nulls mistakes against specialists
you can always hear them pitter pattering about though
the pounces are bugged as fuck for real
though it only seems to happen on corners or at the top of stair cases
Nah it would be nice if it was better. vermintide has way more consistent special spawns that dont feel scummy. Atleast from what ive played of it
where they'll reach that turn or different elevation and pounce without wind up
idk audio to me isn't just
"HELLO I AM ENTERING THE MAP"
it's everything
I can get people not wearing headphones missing the crackle of trappers, or the tapping of dog claws etc
but those are valid things to expect someone to hear with headphones in
Kill faster 
drama over melk coins lmao
i need those melkummies in my tummy

Melk coins?
any recommodations on what to change about this?
i just started using stealth on vet
Uncanny strike on the knife, switch precognition
Steath vet sounds so fun, you can do the funny catachan fighter operative
So knife or claw?
i just found out about always prepared for ranged specialist
so i can just revolver reload
knife tbh
Is it just me or agile engagement buff doesnt affecr bayonet melee 
Did they patch that?
I just tried but got same damage
It should
However
Uncanny Strike is rending and rending is OP
Still, doesnt matter mk1and 2 bayonet stabbing is super reliable 
i already 3 shot crushers with precog tho
Apart from the normal extra damage from rending, bleed profits from it as well
even without precog and just 1 crit its 3 hits
Knife crit machine 🔪🤓
Reciprocity when you get 50 stacks from one dodge against hoarde 
(I know you only get 5 but sure as hell easy to get)
To quote path:
#veteran-class message
With no rending and only 1 crit it should be more than 3 hits
post vid
you also need one initial hit to proc mercy killer
i think with one initial light for mercy killer the breakpoint is 3 crit weakspots with no rending
with precision strikes ofc
How does one acquire the death korps uniform
$$$
was in the shop a while ago
it might return
it will for sure
just kinda gotta hope
one of the more popular sets
Whom must I frequently email to make this the case
Would I be correct to assume that the "wardens" are the mods
yes
<@&735928989146939404> Do any of you fine gentlemen have any intelligence regarding this?
they were being sarcastic,…
I would like to point out that I have been mislead
lmfao
doesnt really work in text ye
LMFAOO
💀
You purchase it with real money, when it goes into rotation in the shop
Nevertheless I hope it stills helps me find an answer
I know this much but everywhere I look there is no indication of when it might return
You’ll have to wait for the next time those cosmetics rotate into the store
I suppose you could say you purchase it with Aquilas, but real money is more apt
Yes they use fear of missing out to sell cosmetics
MBA tactics
I usually play with comrades but we have differing work hours which will likely cause me to miss it
the shops rotate every 2 weeks
so don’t worry about missing it by a few hours
woke hands
Would there perhaps be a timer located somewhere for this roation
Soft liberal hands
no, but most people here know when it rotates
dork probably does
Dork - 4501040514, is this true?
guys i’m not the person in this video i just upload tiktoks here in case trump bans the app. bon appetit
Yes
Every other Thursday, so the week following this Thursday
I think with a godroll 2shot with full uncanny should be doable on vet
hello i am new to this group
But with my knife I can 3shot
hi?
Do not @ the Wardens, these people will attempt deception
ill try it out then, thanks!
What
Hi new to the group
I'm Higui
Can we remove this user?

taken to the ownzone tbqh
sry we have to kill u instead
Understandable
1v1 me at the drako tree
Who must I bribe in order to get the Standard-issue Munitorum Sapper Shovel I want
Such a HHLI moment lmao hi pal funny seeing you in this server
Well well well
The King's Royal Army stretches across all realms
the game spot youtube guy?
can’t remember his name
wait
kings royal army
not armory
ooops
ignore me
No
owned again
Jonathan Furgason
@brave cliff
yes him
The next cosmetic rotation will be on Thursday, September 26th.
Then, every two weeks.
And for Krieg's outfit, we never have any details on what we'll get during the rotation, it's a big surprise every time; new, recoloring of a previous set, etc.
This brings a great sadness
If you're lucky they'll rerun Krieg/Rogue Trader like they did in the past
Why will they not simply take my money
they actually make MORE money this way
Why must I endure this torturous existence
i know it sounds strange
Surely one can pay them directly for such an item
yes your soul
blood sacrifice maybe
I'm listening
||BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
LET THE GALAXY BURN!||
I am no longer listening
||MAIM! KILL! BURN! MAIM! KILL! BURN!
MAIM! KILL! BURN!
MAIM! KILL! BURN! MAIM! KILL! BURN! MAIM! KILL! BURN!||
I am refunding the video game, this means war
They must be quite confident
Having such a torturous process with such a flamable HQ
It's time for the child to out-pizza the hut
now i want to ping the wardens
Firearms expert 
Afterwards, for the rotation of the 26th; we can assume either a cosmetic pack at 2900 Aquila all nice and new, or a return of an iconic pack.
It's a big update, we have a new map, we can have a little hope.
i just played a few minutes with this vet named Karker. had the "im following you" voicelines bound to every key. 4 minutes in to the mission, gets 1 shot by a crusher and immediately d/c's. If you are in here Karker, please keep being you lol
did i need model before i play the game
the tabletop game?
I mean shoot, people were playing the tabletop game with cardboard cutouts
So not really
is there a weapon tier list for vet?
did i need a character
you'll want to check pins for that
ok what game are we talking about here, exactly
Boltgun is listed as great, i thought it was considered as a meh weapon
Only the aiming part
i did not no it
Otherwise bolter is a very solid weapon
Just aiming and swapping are meh
And probably reload time
Good damage
Good cleave
Good stagger
Good suppression
if zarona or plasma didnt exist, boltgun would be considered S tier, it is objectively a very good weapon taht suits a very important niche of specialist killing from range
its just outclassed by those two right now because those two are way overtuned
I like the bolter but I've always been annoyed by mutants and doggos resistance to it
this genuinely is an important point, there's an incorrect conflation that just because two guns preform above everything else... that everything else is bad.
lean into those guns if you REALLY feel like you need them (the columnus is kind of in that camp as well) but don't feel like you MUST use them. there's plenty of viable options for strong loadouts and if you're willing to put in the practice you'll out preform randoms just slavishly using the meta picks.
yep, other than the really weird sway issue that has been acknowledged, i consider the bolter to be a perfectly balanced weapon -- it is very strong at what it does but has obvious downsides (reload, ready speed). and some of those downsides, the veteran tree can accommodate (reload speed)
the bolts going through lims hitbox is gonna be really nice
it's good solid Dakka and has a couple of unique tricks which you can lean into.
sometimes just magdumping a bolter is both the correct AND fun thing to do :>
and it is the best feeling other than pressing F on gunlugger and shooting
the answer is always dakka
i LOVE LOVE LOVE shooting, to quote an ogryn
i had no idea this was a thing and may further explain some weakened performance, bolter is gonna feel great after the update imo
yea
on top of executioner's stance getting a buff, im looking forward to exec + bolter games
relentless is now part of the skill by default
saves 1 point on the tree, and veteran loves its extra points
really wild to go from vet to zealot, where zealot trees let you take everything you want with almost no tradeoffs
but vet tree has tons of options to take and build into
running this with my plasma knife would you take out elite reload and go for the heal talent or nah
ill have to try zealot out havnt played it since before the rework
no reload talent, i would drop born leader to for the emperor, then either take bring it down or exhilarating or field improv (if you dont have that)
not sure if bring it down affects ttks on plasma though
for crushers and bulwarks and reapers
ill test rq
field improv is low key massive if you get grouped with nade zealots or frag ogryn
yeah I really like it
think I probably still want reload with bolter because of magsize
hello i need person tht will teach me the game
oh i was under the impression plasma knife meant plasma gun
you dont need the melee nodes with ps, not sure about knife as i am not a knife enjoyer
I think its too much crit chance to give up with knife but I don tusually use them with ps
you'll want to test if you need precision strikes with bolter
id strongly recommend suppress immunity with bolter too
running around with marksman focus mk2 laspistol hipfire blasting everything like han solo was surprisingly effective
I should do this more often cuz it was also fun
If only the MkX laspistol fired just a little bit faster I think I would rather use it instead
That is a... Really weird build
I might go into detail when I'm at home
I usually go full in exe stance for bolter since vet can leverage that angle and you can one shot a lot of stuff really fast
I'm at work rn too so I cant pull up my usual setup
should one replace a tier 4 slaughterer with a tier 3 brutal momentum
on the power sword
Nice
Id take surgical instead of shattering impact. Bolter has so high armor damage against everything it barely makes a difference
surgical is the way to go on bolter for vet
can someone please explain to me what the +20% strength thing does on the marksman ability modifier
+20 strength to every weakspot hit
wgat is STRENGTH
STRANGE
should i do the marksman ability modifier node or focused fire node
which one would be more damage
we do have proper subclasses
they are just extended into a tree so we can mix and match
i wish you could equip 2 melees or 2 ranged
it would throw off the ballance so bad but it would be fun
it worked in vermintide
marksman has more potential damage but focused fire is way easier to use, works with every gun, and doesn't require a playstyle adjustment
it wouldn't work in darktide lol
darktide is much closer to a 50/50 ranged/melee split
I meant a little bit more rather than just skill trees
dual range would be useless and end up getting wrecked by any substantial melee swarm
but tbh i just want more lasgun types for veteran
if you want the authentic subclass experience just go straight down in a specific direction (left, right, or center)
and double melee would be completely useless against snipers, bombers, and any ranged enemies camping unreachable spots, zealot and ogryn could barely pull it off with throwing knives and rocks respectively but imo it shouldn't be encouraged
would be awesome
so first off, i would save the 2 points leading to volley adapt. while bolter/plasma is one of the few weapons that somewhat profit from the reload speed, its not impactful enough to be worth the 2 points. since longshot was nerfed (ie more range needed for the same damage buff), it is generally not worth taking either. with these 2 points freed up, definitely grab demolition stockpile if you havent (cant tell from your screenshots). if you already have it, grab grenade tinkerer.
born leader is good on plasma with gloryhunter, but if you dont use that blessing, go for the emperor instead
competitive urge is very rarely worth it, take bring it down instead and add rending strikes if you have points left.
if you use powersword, save 3 points on the right leading to desperado and invest into demolition team, grenade tinkerer (if you havent already), target down!, marksmans or possibly field improvisation (choose to your liking)
with knife, i guess the 3 points on the lower right are ok, but without serrated edge, mercy killer and agile engagement, i myself would prefer rashad axe anyway.
This one?
Power
Power is damage, stagger and cleave
i see
it says strength in game
and that isnt referenced anywhere else so i didnt know what strength ment
That's weird lol
Yo
yo
Kid named plasma ciag vet:
Speaking of ranged...
Ogryn needs a custom stubber for BLO.
it really gets even better when you go back to vet after gettin really good on melee and then you play weapon spec vet with the new shotgun
dunno, never warmed up to the super shotgun. the loss of effective range doesnt gel with me
I saw this too, it's strange, but it was (and probably still is) power
ayo they releasing more missions soon?
The next update will have a new mission
Lol add it to Fatshark's interchangeable term glossary
Do you ever just decide to gamble all your plasteel and diamantine away on something stupid
I wanted to make a funny new Autopistol and after buying a million dockets of greys of Autopistols later had maybe 2 that were ok that didn't upgrade into anything worth using and now, then spammed upgrading a few others to see if I could get the few missing blessings
A clown is broke
A clown is a joke
Must earn more for new Autopistol...

The update is literally 9 days away
YOU BLEW IT
i NEED dopamine
And I didn't even get all the blessings I wanted
at least you can sacrifice them later
Sunk cost fallacy but I live at the bottom of the Mariana Trench
Me who just buys from brunt’s rotation and gets all the tiers I missed out on
UnL about to be a breeze for me lmao
i read the new path as unyielding every time
what’s wrong with me
don’t answer that
Every day
no but im running for my life from a chaos spawn is that the same
Also had a weird amount of fun last night doing Signalis memes with Shock Maul and Revolver
Shock Maul is too fun
Hammerblow + Skullcrusher on Crusher and Shauls will never not be funny to me
anyone know if the cheese for the on overwatch penance still works? the one where you just down yourself at the start
Shock maul vet build when?
Never
I just want an SMG for more Signalis memes but 40k doesn't have anything like that
Shock maul with lighting reflexes and high voltage is so much fun
12 ragers running toward you and blocking them feels so disrespectful it's hilarious
Woe, 20 ragers upon ye
Don't understand how people are still playing this game through the content droughts
It's fun
The real content was the friends we made along the way
Yes, but normal people get boredom and burnout doing the exact same thing ad nauseam.
I can only envy someone who can avoid these issues
Get so bored of min-maxxing you min max gimmicks
It's a fun gameplay loop and low time investment
Plus I do play other games
People with like 4000 to 5000+ hours in Darktide who are still going strong just love the game WAY more than the average person LOL
I'm still only at like 1.3k hours last time I checked
i just like clicking heads. never stop getting neuron activations
1.29k
I’ve hit min max burnout till UnL drops
Then I’m min maxxing HSs on Vet lmao
I’ve hit the point of where I’m viewing crowd control as let’s see how many things I can toss around like rag dolls
Lmao
people probably hop on for a game for like 2 days at a time or something
nothing hits quite the same when it comes to mental stimulation slop
I rotate it with other games
Darktide, SM2, CoD Zombies, Battlefield etc
Mainly Darktide Is the go too turn off brain kill things next to zombies
I do play DT a lot but also rotate with Cyberpunk, Dying Light 2, DRG
I'm currently rotating DT, 100%ing Cyberpunk, Othercide, and Peglin.
it's half hour doses of almost constant mental stimulation
not really much that needs to be explained
whats the build you're using in CP2077?
Well, I'm more of a melee enjoyer and FS is kinda goated at that
I'm going throwing knives
With Netrunner
So basically my knives poison+blind
And I glitch their weapons
Almost won against Max Tac

trauma skullcrusher shovel
Isn’t Hammerblow an option
Or is it only Trauma
I'm pretty sure this is my 4th playthrough
Cause I’ve gained a liking for Impact + Skullcrusher where I’m benefiting myself and my team
Nice. I'm doing a pretty straight forward katanna+sub machine gun (Fenrir)+sandy. Lotta beheading.
My next run, to get full Johnny approval, is gonna be all hacking and tech.
I've only done the Aldecaldos ending so far. Looking forward to Phantom Liberty.
The grenade spam at very hard is hilarious
Trauma increases enemy stagger duration by up to +61%
They will quite literally just stand there
quite proud of that shot
I imagine the traitors trying to figure out how that oggy died
And only a paper thin las scar line was over the scalp where you fired that shot
What's the best melee for spamming light attacks? Vs hordes, bonus if it can stagger elites. Using the keep swinging mod to let my index finger rest. Using the agni maul now.
combat axe
Rashad i take it?
yea
hard to roll tho
wait for update then u can make a good one fairly easily
I have this one
Can switch thunderous for bromentum, not sure what else
For now I mean
Since you specified versus horde
yea you take bromomentum and then unarmoured to at least 1 tap dreg bruisers
According to the guide I should go for unyielding, cara, or unarmoured. not sure why not the usual flak/elite?
hitting 1 shots on scab/dreg bruisers is the most important item for combat axes, scabs (the ones with flak head) require i think 80s across teh board to do it unbuffed but dregs do not
ah gotcha
unarmoured also lets you head swing at gunner elites and shotgunners
one version or the other
like i have 80/77~s on everything but finesse (71) for my rashad and i hite 673/675 on the flak armored bruiser
kind of annoying but they die with one headtaker buff up, which is on-demand and not conditional
oh maybe this one's better?
will do
and 1 headtaker buff should let you head swipe the flak armored one. and if these are true, that is a good axe to use
bromomentum necessary
honestly I don't think I notice any difference 😄 they both chop the heads of most enemies that aren't elites
think i'll start out with the one i have equipped. thanks!
as long as they chop heads off bruisers with lights, you wont notice anything else and they are elite weapons that way
by far the strongest vet melee option imo
elite is ok but dependent on roll
unarmored, carapace & unyielding all help with breakpoints (depending on talent set-up)
Actually the shovel is the strongest vet melee because it makes a pan_impact_sfx.ogg on heavy hit so it's clearly functionally superior
I thought flak helps BPs too on rashad
Or is it overshadowed by having headtaker stacks
That and you can turn it into a mini zealot crusher with impact + Skullcrusher
Did you post that as bait or something
Why does he need Deadshot with Surgical
I had to witness it
Now you do too
You ruined my day Cole
See that's what the 3 stamina curios are for
Now I’m angry
With the Surgical
i think he said it's locked
I don't understand how you leave blessings locked
You almost never NEED a good perk
Blessings take first priority almost every time
Locked blessings are literally just oh it’s what I was originally after
Yes
Which makes me question why the fuck it’s locked
Needed the perk slot clearly
to prioritize dreg gunner and flamer oneshots without crits
but then he started critmaxxing
and even then it doesn't matter because executioner's stance

Are you in here because zealot chat is off the rails again

we should extend the pedophile discussions here
I should just ping wardens
true critmaxxers run knife with riposte/smackdown as their melee, he's just a poser
No iron will despite pathing that way is WILD
More than one person could do with a 7 day mute
I'm here because of a reddit vet build
Scroll up
i've only seen one other person do that shit lmao
Fuck Is happening in there, I’m too busy doing my job today to really know the context
I'm thinking about trying out veteran, though it feels like a weird class to me
Same 3 people doing what they always do

this is nowhere near as bad as other servers
like not even remotely in the same universe
It is a little curious but we love em for it
What is weird to you?
Constantly the same shit from the same people every day
I can't really put my finger on it, currently I'm a psyker/zealot main, but I wanna try every class
I'm looking around at builds, and I see so many different playstyles
Have you gotten to level 30? Because almost all of the goodies are in the last third of the tree so that could be what helps tie it together
And yeah vet for sure has tons of different playstyles
You can play veteran like a mf zealot if you wanted to
Over dmg to the max
Haven't even started vet lol
one of the biggest things that people get wrong about veteran is the fact that he's "the gun class", so he should always be using his gun
when in reality only 1/3rd of the skill tree revolves around it
veteran is designed as a jack of all trades, a key to fit any hole
Ahhh
i play a melee vet build
its literally just zealot 2
I wanted to try out stealth so I'll look into something
for me the weird part of vet was just early game, imo vet takes the longest to build an actual unique build and playstyle, until then youre just on the gun guy
Alright then
sprint efficiency is fine, I just wouldn't run it if I already have +stam
I'll try him out tonight
play veteran as melee/ranged 50:50
if ur looking for a "mostly ranged class" that'll be psyker
I stopped using CK when I was running voc
Confirmed Kill definitely much more value but Out for Blood can be good for a melee focus
tho even psyker has the ability to be build for major melee priority too
out for blood is likely better for early game considering the lack of elites in malice and below
Oh yeah true actually
I run both
Yeah, I've used my psyker as 55/45 on range/melee. By my zealot is like 20/80 on range/melee
Stealth build?
sort of, psyker melee is a lot more 1-dimensional
No, melee vet
Pathing through voc?
Hmmm... I'll look into a stealth build for vet
Yeah
charge illisi swing illisi charge illisi swing illisi charge illisi swing illisi
real zealot players forget they have a gun and die to ranged elite
I am interested in your build
real zealot players dont need their gun cuz they have throwing knives
real
I use my hand Cannon only on the elites and even then, I forget to reload which fucks me over
Honestly I’ve been playing Veteran more like a Zealot lately and just drop ranged threats with gun and mainly resort to melee
It’s what you should do anyways
My zealot is 50/60% bolter :/
zealots my favorite and i just go brr with melee and toss the occasional knife
Infinite laser shooty with shock trooper is my zone with vet mostly
Psyker used to be my go-to because I loved messing around with assail, but now it's starting to switch to zealot
And my psyker is switching to a smite build
Enfeeble smite
Let's my teammates at least mow them down
Lol
basically just said voldemort
But I've been getting bored of my psyker
Palpatine
general opinion of a lot of people here is that smite is stupidly overpowered, in the worst way
I suppose I see why
It overpowers my brain into sleep because it's such a boring playstyle
It makes me go sleep cause it turns the game off
Smite melee
Once smite ends I just spam my sword
oh that's funny i use my knife to bleed elites and horde clear with plasma
Tanners strongest warrior
I love heavy melee focus Veteran :)
people just don't understand the flesh tearer + smackdown + exploit weakness punch only meta
flesh tearer can't even be applied by a crit punch
even better 
Sustained fire is it dogshit on a gun with alot of ammo?
aka is it only the 3th and 4th shot
Or is it all shots after the 4th also increased?
Or does it count ever 3th/4th shot so 1 shit 2shit 3strong 4 strong 1 shit 2 shit 3 strong 4 strong etc?
I just realized smth abt exe stance next patch
2nd~4th in a salvo (recoil not reset)
it's not that good
so in a gun with a 100 ammo you only get 2 boosted shots through out the entire clip
no
If you shoot nonstop, yes
i mean... in a stub revolver its kinda desh
u get it every time u start shooting
Yeah it has relentless
the 2nd, 3rd and 4th shots every time u start shooting get the buff
oooh
As apart of base
still kinda dog
if u stop shooting & let recoil reset, u get it back the next time u shoot
rather have speedload
it's not that great overall
There are better picks in general
yeah but ihavent unlocked many
Make it autoguns, fanned revolver
no, think abt it
relentless is
any elite/special u kill refreshes ur highlight
it doesn't say "ranged kill" (helbore bayonet kills refresh)
can't u like just, pop exe stance and melee everybody with active wallhacks to keep it going forever
Idk
It didn’t state melee effects it
But we could test it out really easily
no it says any kill, doesn't matter how u get the kill
Oh?…
as long as u get the kill u get refresh
helbore bayonet is melee kill and it still refreshes
Fuck permanent team highlight might be kinda fucking nuts lmao
so does that mean we can melee forever in exe stance and just raw benefit from wallhack
Friendship ended with Infiltrate, now Executioner's Stance is my best friend
team highlight is a dead point
Isn't that how it works currently when you have relentless?
yes
but they're adding relentless to base kit, and also making exe stance not cancel when u swap weapons
Oh fuck I didn't know about the not canceling part
The not cancel part is magical
But it allowing people to maintain the buff through melee kills would be insane LMFAO
they only added that to the notes after a few days due to popular demand
the +dmg & stagger buffs are still only for ranged attacks
Maybe they'll give a boost to weapon swap while exe stance is active 
For shit like helbor and bolters
no they straight up replaced vanguard with 25% weapon swap speed
There are dozens of Vets who cling to Exe Stance over VoC/Infiltrate and Fatshark heard us
it's a 1 point grab from starter section
It would do funny combos with Agile Engagement for a steep talent tax though
Wormy talent tree fun
Ayyy, exec stance getting love. Big W for Vet players
VOC is too safe and I don't care for Infiltrate playstyle so I've been sticking to exe stance most of the time. It getting some love is great
At the very least Weapon Specialist will be a little less restrictive on Exe Stance now
I also figured out the "incorrect muscle rendering" problem on some vet armors
The talent tree would probably look awful but imagine Agile Engagement Executioner's Stance Weapon Specialist
The tree of juggling
turns out if u set mesh LOD below 1.5 the distance is so low it won't fully render clothing on ur character, resulting in muscle showing through
this is a certified FS moment
That sounds cursed as fuk
But also funny
my body is ready

I also made one!
Going to swap the point off Relentless into Marksman when Exe Stance gets it baseline and enjoy the juggling
Maybe swap Close Order Drill/Confirmed Kill into the new weapon swap speed talent + Out for Blood
I kinda want that other movement speed talent node
im gonna wep spec to become IJ bolter zealot with executioner's stance
embrace the zoom
Gotta go fast
@tall torrent all your talk about trauma led to this emp's gift dropping 
thx
Put Skullcrusher on it over thrust
Tell me how that performs lmao
yeah that's what i did
but first i must defecate
Tell me how this functions in a match seeing I’m working
sometimes you get a good thing
What's the basic crafting flow? Buy base weapons from the shop until you get a decent roll? Consecrate, hoping for a couple of the perks and blessings you need, then refine/rebless as needed?
Don’t until the 26th
if its a good 380 or close roll I just take it all the way up
whats happening on the 26th
By the throne what did you do to your game text 🤣
put hammerblow instead
Trauma stacks more just hammerblow is easier to maintain is the reason
put both to send poxers flying
no like double impact
I seriously don’t know cause I’ve never bothered using Trauma if it’s like Deci
Where if you miss it drops
Or if it just maintains/stacks after second hit+
It doesn’t drop on miss
Decimator/shred/wrath are the only blessings that drop on miss
Yeah it's just that 2 seconds is short af
Suppose if I don’t like it can swap it for hammer during UnL
Check the store if there are any good rolls. If not go to Melk's and see if there are any good rolls. If not then go to Brunt's armoury and buy greys for the weapon you want until you get the stat set up you want then throw it at Hadron and pray she gives you at least 2 good rolls on the two perks and two blessings given at random
It is very expensive and not worth it since they are changing the system soon
Better to save your resources unless you have an excess of stuff and you want to go gambling
best shovel for vet atm? 🤔
Dumb thought but anyone use out for blood? 5% on every kill sounds pretty nice since you chop fodder a dime a dozen with the right build?
pretty underwhelming tbh
It's good with some weapons like Rashad Mk II Combat Axe because of how every swing is downing 4 groaners/poxwalkers so you'll virtually never be low on toughness when going through a horde
It can be outshined by Confirmed Kill most times though
Standard issue & mk7
Fair enough. Will save.
is it me or is the STD is faster?
maybe shovel really is a sexually transmitted disease
Just checking in, when is the next big update?
26th
Horrible, thanks.
I would like to apologize to the mk 3 sapper shovel, I wasn't familiar with its game
as if any of us have sex
Just a hotfix tomorrow isn’t it? Leaks for the shop rotation and what not?
Shop was last week
The not-meme answer is 9 days
Me watching 4 people leave and join this game:
Not getting progress on my "No teammates die" contract now
I always reroll no teammates die. Just too unreliable, imo.
Yeah even 1 no-death run is too much to ask, someone will afk or get barreled or step on a DH every run. I'd rather take 16 books than the no-death weeklies
Now if they changed to JUST YOU not dying X times, it would actually be nice to take
this
No death runs are top 1 worst weekly challenges, followed by books ones.
Books are atrocious if no one wants to carry them (and you also would want to choose specific Scripture-missions, leaving you with basically to 2-3 map to choose from)
always play on lower difficulties
make weeklys manageable
it also makes the game suicideable
lower difficulties means you will be killed by boredom, not worth it
even if the penance is cleared, you will die inside as a human being
oh I thought it dropped on the 28th

gotta take this opportunity to grind auric mael while I can (SM2 taking all the bad players' attention away from DT)
Don’t worry. We still have bodies count in DT

oof
I fucking hate the long bomb achievement
the ammo crate mission
you can throw a couple of frags from the helo pad to the big door you drop off from
thats how i got it
The bridge in the torrent also works
I got both the long bomb and stun grenade vs sniper penance at that spot
i just played a vent purge mission for that one
threw one and ran away in the opposite direction
dual pistols for vet??????
ayo
oh boy we're in a for a treat
lol, it's the Space Marine effect.
idk i go infernus dumdum
Is it good
ye dumdum also buffs the burn damage
OH Nice
nice



