veteran-class

[severe gale]

u smell sry

[faint beacon]

Soyker detected opinion REJECTED

honestly Psyker bores the fuck out of me

[frank ether]

also an option tbh, serrated alone should make mercy killer proc anyways

[wise jackal]

I mean if you use smite it is boring

[faint beacon]

Racking up damage by merely existing is depressing

[wise jackal]

The trauma staff and dueling sword carry it for me

[somber axle]

Dueling Sword on Vet soon

[grand perch]

Finally

[frank ether]

heby sword on vet.. plox

[faint beacon]

Serrated blade dueling sword

[wise jackal]

I want it on zealot

NOW

[faint beacon]

I think that was another they considered

[somber axle]

I forgor what the graphics looked like but they showed Dueling Sword on Vet so maybe Heavy Sword will be available too

[grand perch]

I think I have a guardsman model somewhere with duelling sword equipped.

[faint beacon]

Honestly if we get these I deadass think Zealots deserve Power Sword

Will this be bad? Absolutely

But it’s funny

[frank ether]

I already have the build in mind, boltpistol with funny bleed blessing, kraks, serrated blade, voc>focus mark. Larp as cowwisaw

[somber axle]

Some current weapons being available across more classes and blessings being available on weapons they weren't before will make things funny for shaking up the meta for a bit

Give Zealots Power Sword

I don't see why it would be an issue tbh

[faint beacon]

Veteran a Flamer

[wise jackal]

Ogryn evisirator

[faint beacon]

I want to be

A steel legion grenadier

[grand perch]

Ogryn gets an earthshaker cannon

[faint beacon]

(Special Forces)

[grand perch]

Propah lead belcher dat is

[wise jackal]

I want to see a regular reject hold the pickaxes

[somber axle]

The recent thing in the news channel had an answer that implied they have more funky things planned for difficulty in the works

[wise jackal]

Hell. Yes.

Cataclysm darktide

[faint beacon]

I’m playing it

[somber axle]

Someone questioned them on the game feeling too easy at the highest difficulty and asked about nerfs. They responded by saying they have things in the works to make the game harder

[faint beacon]

Even though it’d shake things up

[somber axle]

Enemy buffs would be fun

The shooter buff was very, very fun for the short time it was active and I miss it

[wise jackal]

Probably my only gripe with auric is that there isnt that much hordes to make the specials properly ambush

[frank ether]

I liked it aswell

rager buff was a bit questionable

[faint beacon]

Wasn’t a fan of the laser accuracy but I wouldn’t mind if if they toned down how frequent their volleys were

Rager buff…

24 ragers upon thee

[wise jackal]

Hordes should be buffed too

Make the pox gas there default state and make them spawn more

[faint beacon]

They’re fine but I don’t mind more trash spawning in

[frank ether]

I have more trust in fatshark than I do in arrowhead when it comes to this at least

if anything at least if they royally f up I know they'll just do the unthinkable and revert things

[wise jackal]

I find that they spawn too little that it ruins the pacing significantly for me

[frank ether]

cause they have done it before

[faint beacon]

You play AuDamn or AuMael

[wise jackal]

Mael

[faint beacon]

Cause that’s perfect pacing

Normal Mael or Auric

[wise jackal]

Auric

[faint beacon]

Probably just tweak groaner and poxhorde spawns imo

They’re fine with their current HP

[wise jackal]

Maybe they should spawn in more mixed hordes often

Should slow down the players a bit to allow for more special ambushes

[frank ether]

having more poxies just makes life easier though

[wise jackal]

Because i just feel that they just come to you

[frank ether]

they are just there to be battery for your toughness

[wise jackal]

Thats a decent segway for me to give a buff idea to the specials

Make them ignore toughness

[faint beacon]

No

[frank ether]

thats just bad

[short wigeon]

no

[faint beacon]

That’s just

No

That’s called pathetically quick teamwipes

[wise jackal]

They already do very little damage as is

[faint beacon]

TDR % + Curio Defense %

[somber axle]

Remember when Scab Bomber and Flamers were bugged

And their fire would kill you near instantly

That was a fun time LMFAO

[wise jackal]

Sounds fair

They should add it back again kek

Just for lols

[somber axle]

They sorta just ignored toughness and went straight to burning through your HP very fast

[frank ether]

helldivers is doing a lot of instakill stuff lately

I hear its going great for them

[wise jackal]

You know what would be great to up difficulty?

Sub modifiers

Stuff like the chaos waste effects on the players

I had an idea for one called shock collar

Allies gain power but every missed hit or shot loses 1 health

[last parcel]

kinky

[uncut pebble]

That's awful... I miss so many attacks due to assail psykers already...

[wise jackal]

Another one i had was called capsule chompsky

Escort a capsule to the end of the map, chompsky grants slow corruption heals +health

I can see it be kinda fun on a pox gas map

[uncut pebble]

Is this referring to gnome chompsky from l4d2?

[wise jackal]

Yee

[uncut pebble]

That would actually be a silly modifier...

[wise jackal]

Escorting him also grants like an extra 100 plasteel

[somber axle]

Carry a holy relic through a map that gives you a safe zone amidst a map full of pox gas maybe?

Could be fun

[oblique totem]

Red rover, red rover, send poxers on over

[somber axle]

Maybe pox gas map modifier with the pustules everywhere doing their rotating gas bit where some places are safe and others are not

[uncut pebble]

This, but it's also a steady stream of poxwalkers from all angles for the entire mission.

[wise jackal]

I could make it extra funny and make it so everytime someone dies while carrying it special spawns increases for 5 minutes

[somber axle]

But once you reach a church, breach a vault and collect a holy relic the map goes wild and the pustules all go off non stop

Only the relic gives you protection and clears the gas in the near vicinity

[wise jackal]

Its too similar to the chaos waste modifier

I was thinking this modifier could be used on top of other map modifiers

[uncut pebble]

That could honestly just be a sub objective that only spawns on pox gas maps.

Like how there's scriptures and grimoires, you may be tasked to find a holy relic, and once you pick it up, the match gets significantly harder.

[somber axle]

Ooo

Would it be too hard if they added a new gas as a map modifier

Permanently disables your ability for the map

You still have whatever your grenade is

Just no ability

[uncut pebble]

I think the only ones that would really suffer from that would be vets.

[somber axle]

Wdym

Every class uses their ability

[uncut pebble]

Zealout, psyker, and ogryn all have cracked methods of regenerating toughness outside of their ability.

Vet would just be a glass cannon.

[somber axle]

Vet has crazy toughness generation

Confirmed Kill is really strong

[uncut pebble]

I must not see it, then. When I play vet I just don't get hit.

[somber axle]

Out for Blood and a Rashad Mk II Combat Axe will have you at max toughness constantly

[uncut pebble]

I feel so squishy that I play too safe to get hit or even put myself in a position to get hit.

[somber axle]

If you're using Confirmed Kill and enough TDR you can tank gunner lines while shooting them down

[uncut pebble]

The other 3 classes are just pants-on-head levels of toughness regen.

[somber axle]

Idk about that LOL

[oblique totem]

zero toughness vet build

[last parcel]

second wind do be poggy woggy

[uncut pebble]

Zealout has second wind, and that alone sets him leagues and bounds ahead. Psyker gets toughness back simply by playing the game (generating and quelling peril). Ogryn just needs things within smacking distance.

[wise jackal]

I still think the shock collar thing is brilliant for auric mael

[somber axle]

Psyker felt pretty squishy to me and though it had fun methods of toughness generation like crit build + mettle it still felt very vulnerable compared to Vet

[uncut pebble]

Vet needs elites/specialists, and that makes the toughness regeneration talents significantly harder to use.

[somber axle]

As far as survivability goes I'd probably rank it

Zealot > Vet > Ogryn > Psyker

[uncut pebble]

You arent keeping yourself in a safer position than normal and you arent cycling peril, then.

[somber axle]

I am. Psyker doesn't take hits like the other classes can LOL

[uncut pebble]

I would say its zealout, ogryn, psyker, and vet, in that order, from best to worst for toughness regeneration.

[somber axle]

It doesn't reach the silly levels of TDR that Vet has

[uncut pebble]

Oh, definitely not. I agree.

But toughness regen? Absolutely cracked.

I count 3 assail darts and my entire toughness bar is back.

That all being said, I also play psyker as if I'm a zealout. I'm neck deep in blood I've shed in melee 95% of the match.

[meager topaz]

I got this from the Armory exchanged. Do I keep it?

What blessings do I put?

[junior needle]

Low end surgical is not great, carapace is not great

Also agri is the worst HH variant last I checked

[proud marsh]

just leveled up and got access to the boltgun, is it good?

[somber axle]

Surgical, Headhunter, Ghost, Deadly Accurate
any of those four iirc

but also you can save it for the new update coming soon when locks get removed to change things as you like

[somber axle]

I'd say it is, yeah. Very fun weapon! Treat it like a DMR for the most part with Pinning Fire + Surgical or go Shattering + Cavalcade for full auto boss delete mode

tbh I just do Pinning Fire + Surigical and magdump into bosses for a less effective but still fun burst into bosses

The reload is slow but if you watch the ammo counter you can hit sprint the instant the number changes and shave off like half the reload time and be ready to fire much sooner

[midnight mesa]

To be honest I wish the iron sights on the Bolter didn't look like shit.

And also didn't sway

Like honestly if they allowed us to attach a scope to it

That would be super fun

[somber axle]

I don't think the sights are too bad. But I've used the Helbores a lot so the Boltgun's sights are much easier to get used to. I'm not sure if they'll ever add scopes tbh

I also usually grab Exe Stance/Deadshot with Boltgun so the sway is pretty minimal

[frank ether]

honestly I understand people's urge to just build it for hipfire magdump

because the ads is pretty damn jank

[wide anvil]

That, and also because Bolter is the power fantasy of "dump the entire mag, watch bodies fly"

[frank ether]

that fantasy imo is much better done on a zealot

that said if exe stan was more interesting I could do that playstyle more often

can already use surgical bolter with exe-MF to great effect but I find the tunnel vision playstyle...irritating?

[trim breach]

[slow sky]

propaganda from a zealot main

[crimson pebble]

@weary peak Look at it

[weary peak]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-hiding-shy-grocery-marge-simpson-gif-17727603

https://tenor.com/view/the-urge-resisting-the-urge-gregtech-diesel-gregtech-diesel-gif-15737733198850231497

vet really turns this game into borderlands

crazy fucking talent tree

[frank ether]

I wanna do autopistol goblin loadout on vet

with like onslaught and shit

how unhinged would it be to do deadshot on this thing

[slow sky]

I think it has the worst crit damage across all ranged weapons

Like flat out

[frank ether]

oh

maybe this is my mistake

so I made a cavalcade-pinning autopistol for my vet

slapped it on my laspis build with the only change being I got onslaught for brittle meme

it was just... lame

dont have survivalist which probably doesnt help

the dps isnt even that bad

maybe I just need to make take survivalist so I can magdump like a brainlet tbh

I'll give it a go

[rigid pilot]

Pinning fire vs bulwarks lol

Do they even die in 1 mag now after the health buff

[frank ether]

I have pinning 4 on it

let me check

they do when I stuff the barrel at their back

takes nearly the whole mag

mind you I have onslaught and pinning 4 + cavalcade

[rigid pilot]

I've been playing my agripbrauto stealth WS vet for a few games

Brauto actually staggers the bulwark

[frank ether]

agri brr is actually quite nice

[rigid pilot]

So you can open them for more brrr

Does SAP do it

[frank ether]

I wish it had a bit more skill ceiling to it sometimes

but I'm happy with it

[rigid pilot]

Brauto skill ceiling is trying to outdps the kickbackgryn, voidpsyker and plasmapeevet in your lobby

[frank ether]

just want a bit more nuance sometimes but eh, its fine

I guess we got iags for that

[rigid pilot]

I wish I had a reason to brace my agrip

[frank ether]

If it was up to me I'd make it so normal mode is small cone of fire but you get big recoil and bracing is big cone with near no recoil

at least roughly how I imagine it in my head

tbf agri has a pretty small cone

and they all have garbage finesse anyway so it doesnt rly matter I guess?

[rigid pilot]

Yea brace has no place unless they really dumpster the default spread and recoil

[frank ether]

thats kinda the ironic part of it

why would bracing your weapon make you more accurate anyway

the thing they did with graia braced was cool but tbh the gun should have had that rate of fire buff baseline imo

bracingg has a lot of input and weapon swap problems around it and weird audio glitching, its just all around unpleasant mechanic to interact with

I'd much rather make it like your aim spread shrinks when you stand still or something, like bake it into the default movement of the gun so you dont have to interact with weird gimmicky alt fire modes like this

I guess its already sort of in the game that you can crouch to make the cone smaller, I use that a lot for agri revolver

but its an idea that can be expanded on

[rigid pilot]

Can confirm the bracing locks you out of other actions like weapon swap

I'm dummy and sometimes I rmb before swapping to melee and then I get destroyed

[frank ether]

yea I sense that there is a lot of code jank behind that mechanic

they need to iterate on this at some point if there are ever plans for a vet stubber or helgun

might be why we havent had that sort of gun yet (and that the funny space AKs got buffed into filling that niche)

[umbral scaffold]

They could just implement the mod to guarantee weapon swaps

[rigid pilot]

They are slowly changing the code to add more interrupts

[dreamy spade]

Infernus applies dumdum, that's funny

[odd sparrow]

oh thats funny

its basically irrelevant on recon but funny

[west minnow]

I NEED IT O.O

[thorn lark]

hmmmmm

[junior ingot]

Any thoughts on the Ironhelm 'Hacker' Shotgun? I've been using it and for me, it absolutely rocks it with Volley Adept and Infiltrate.

Feels like I'm playing Doom since anything below Bosses, Ogryn or Carapace gets one tapped.

[thorn lark]

it is very fun indeed, especially on vet

[faint beacon]

I am witnessing the most painfully slow stalemate possible, cause I got killed from a silent trapper and they have no ranged options now

and gunners are just fucking laying into them

[junior ingot]

Man, that's the worse feeling ever. Knowing if you hadn't gone down, your team might have survived.

[faint beacon]

We're in time out

till they can break

nvm

they fucking died

Literally as I was typing this I heard both of them get pinned

[oblique totem]

womp womp

[junior ingot]

It happens dude, all we can do is do better and hope for the best next time.

Quick question but does [Out for Blood] give 5% Toughness on [Ranged] kill?

[tame lodge]

If you use WS you can skip reload blessing
"I got 38 more rounds in this double barrel shotgun"

[junior ingot]

Ahh yeah, I've seen gameplay of that and looks hella high-octane. ngl was pretty damn sick but my old hands can't handle that much action

[radiant chasm]

There is little need to run 2, let alone 3 reload nodes with dbarrel, it’s animation will soft lock you anyways iirc

[junior ingot]

It seems like it, but for what I can observe, the animation 'lags' behind but I could still fire early. Could be wrong but eh, its fun and that's what counts for me

All I know is that anything within 5m of me that isn't big or armored enough is going to get turn into fine red mist.

[tame lodge]

Look out for the blessing Manstopper, it's basically infinite cleave on crit

Too bad it's a tier 2 blessing

[junior ingot]

Maybe with the Unlocked and Loaded coming soon, it can be Tier 4?

Ngl, I wish some Tier 2's get Tier 4's as well. Some would be such a banger for my Psyker

[tame lodge]

Yes it can be t4

They added extra impact on Manstopper recently so they could tier it

[midnight totem]

When my 380 plasma gun can't be 550... because blaze away only goes to tier 3

[frank monolith]

easiest way i got that t2 blessing is from a level 20 zealot or you can do 19 pysker

[last parcel]

another w for gloryhunter

[tame lodge]

I don't play Double Barrel, so I just have to wait for the update to get free T2

[lethal idol]

That the gun i want for my vet

[fading yarrow]

How does this strike y'all

[tame lodge]

No precision strikes

Trash

[cerulean grail]

This is Ducktide

[delicate hornet]

id replace charismatic with confirmed kill (aura radius isnt good imo), swap focus fire to redirect fire for more damage output in general, replace inspiring presence with superiority complex (toughness replenishment also isnt super good). also bring it down could be swapped for precision strikes as itll be more versatile provided you can hit weak spots reliably

the rest depend on what weapons youre running tho

[patent birch]

cock tide

[fading yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

[patent birch]

do u have to do almost every pennance for this?

[fading yarrow]

Pretty much

Lemme do quick maff

[delicate hornet]

you have to complete a large majority of them, iirc theres something around 4900 penance points available atm

[delicate hornet]

congrats on getting it :D

[gusty pike]

I'm still very early in the game...

[fading yarrow]

I have done 627/671 Penances to reach 4500

[patent birch]

insane

idk if imma do alla that

[fading yarrow]

Aura Radius is definitely something I can switch off tbh, doesn't ever really feel like it has an effect. As for the rest: I want the build to be good at taking down Monstrosities and Crushers in a hurry while also giving me a lot of breathing room for self-sustain if I get separated or pinched, so I like a lot of means to regain Toughness and big single-target(Monstrosities) damage, thus Focused instead of Redirect

With that said I think I'll swap out Charismatic for Precision Strikes and switch between that and Confirmed Kill to see which I feel more comfortable with

[vale dirge]

what damage buff thing do i need to put on my weapons to better fight things like plague ogryns, beasts of nurgle and other such abominations?

[fading yarrow]

Columnus V with Dumdum and Fire Frenzy and Power Sword 3 with Power Cycler and Sunder

[fading yarrow]

Unyielding

[vale dirge]

thanks

i was using unarmored because i couldnt see any armor on them so i guess i got that wrong

[delicate hornet]

thats fair enough. confirmed kill is very good for toughness regen, the immediate regen and then the regen over time is very nice. as for the +10% replenishment, it only applies to the replenishment you get from being in coherency which ends up being a small increase in real terms sadly

i believe the regen over time from confirmed kill can stack as well

[fading yarrow]

Ohh that's an easy switch from Inspiring Presence to Confirmed Kill, then

[cerulean grail]

Indeed.

I hate Ogryns

Even now

The cocky class of idiots seem to have started playing Ogryn

I TOLD this guy to leave me dead, because we were lagging like crazy. Nope, he tries and fails to gte me up, dies, the other idiot Psyker dies (because thats just what he was doing all map), and then our lone hard carry Zealot also dies in the elevator while swarmed. Lag was sooo crazy, and that loss felt so unearned.

JUST EFFING LEAVE. JUST EFFING WIN, you numbnuts, I appreicate the plasteel and money more than being carried to the elevator.

[fleet garden]

is accatran VIIa currently the best one?

[tame lodge]

Sort of yes

II is king of economy

[uncut pebble]

Mk7 recon has cleave, mk2 is king of ammo efficiency, mk6 is best for dps, iirc.

I prefer the mk7, especially on a MF build.

[uncut pebble]

No rashuns for you.

[wind spoke]

Any kind souls want to tell me if my thrown together build for assault shotgun silliness and to progress/finally play around with weapon specialist is bad/stupid or passable? - https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9cee5860-cf9e-44d3-96e4-ebdfc9f1fbef (currently using both weapons with the perks attached, have other options for combat axe but that's my only decent shotgun and no blessings saved really). Saw the bait video on reddit this morning and figured it's probably time to tinker around with the keystone/weapon finally.

I mostly play non-auric damnation/heresy so I assume "pretty much anything works", just wondering if I'm making any obvious mistakes etc.

[tall torrent]

take tac awareness & iron will

u spec'd too much into weapon specialist, which most weapons just don't need

u only rly need always prepared for DB shotgun

[wind spoke]

Makes sense, thanks for the tip!

[uncut pebble]

Weapon spec aux nodes are flavored for "I have too many points and nothing to do with them," but the rest of vet's skill tree doesn't allow for that mindset because other talent nodes are too good to pass up.

[fading yarrow]

Alright
Just gave this a spin in AuDam Vigil Station and thankfully got a couple of Chaos Spawn encounters to really see how much I do, and boy oh boy it melts
And since I use a Columnus and Power Sword, I delete hordes, too

Plus, since I have Ability regen on all my Curios, my VoC is up every 10 seconds or so, so I'm pretty much never without gold shield

[fleet garden]

is that the VId?

well ive got this

[plucky pewter]

I don't understand the appeal of the combat axes. 😦

I want to like so many things but so few just jive when I use them

Just a couple weeks

[real iron]

i'd pick the shovel

[plucky pewter]

Safest?

[real iron]

i feel like the safest to use is the shovel

mk 7

i think it was

[plucky pewter]

I should experiment

[unique orchid]

Idk about you lot i love my standard issue shovel

[real iron]

rashad is crazy

[delicate hornet]

me when i want 0 single target damage

[plucky pewter]

E-Emperor...

[real iron]

whachu got on the rashad now

i'm curious

and it's hitting that hard?

i can't send a pic

i got

headtaker

brutal momentul

momentum

+25 unyielding and +25 flak

smh

so i just messed up a

pretty good roll

[muted gorge]

Im going into heresy assassination with this team, do we have a chance?

[real iron]

the best i got rn is the shovel haha

munitorm mk 7

[last parcel]

yes
make the militarum proud

[real iron]

uncanny strike and thrust

25+ for unarmored and carapace

[muted gorge]

we are gonna run out of ammo so fast

[real iron]

but i love

the chainsword

both mk4 and mk13

yo i got a question @formal lake

are any devil's claw swords worth it?

ah

[delicate hornet]

they have pretty good mobility across the board as well which is very useful

[real iron]

nice nice

what melee weapons do u recommend for vet

and ranged

cause i feel like ranged gonna be columnus mk5

what do u think about this one

i actually had it

didn't know u needed deathspitter

[clear lantern]

Well save it for when you get unlocked

[delicate hornet]

infernus is a very marginal dps increase but its fun to light crap on fire

[clear lantern]

you've got a crit-infernus thing going on; those are really fun

[real iron]

yeah

that's why i'm using it

i feel it's so fun

[clear lantern]

They're good; I use one in damnation

https://tenor.com/view/bobsburgers-exceptional-mouthfeel-delicious-yum-gif-5318445

[delicate hornet]

i mean despite plasma being great the short charge time can throw people off using it as it isnt as 'responsive'

[clear lantern]

I've used plasma, but yeah, it isn't hitscan, and the lack of instant reaction->instant gratification is off-putting to a non-zero amount of players for sure.

Lucius Lasguns also aren't hitscan, but they're very, very fast travelling.

[orchid hemlock]

look at my lil lasgun

isn't she bootiful?

[real iron]

this is what i got on my lasgun

[orchid hemlock]

nope https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87

[real iron]

nah

fullauto mod

ye

haha

[tall torrent]

Plasma is hitscan

[last parcel]

sacrifice your hands for the emperor

[real iron]

100%

[sinful swallow]

You can set a key bind to toggle on/off like a fire selector

[idle bluff]

bro wants a lasgun with a switch

[radiant chasm]

you can bind a toggle for it

[last parcel]

what about a lasgun with a steam deck

[tame lodge]

Lasgun with the Wiiu remotes

[idle bluff]

thoughts? improvements?

[last parcel]

they are weapons

[tame lodge]

Gets hot! instead of volatile

[terse idol]

Well swap Flak for +Elite

[tardy mural]

sup, havent played in a while, did much change since like a year ago?

btw whats that steam thingy

[tame lodge]

Ammo aura has cool down

[tardy mural]

how so?

[scarlet path]

So, how much do you think the playercount will drop once space marine 2 drops

[tardy mural]

not as much as when hell divers droped prob

[tame lodge]

You could chain kill Elites/Special and get ammo for all of those kills (free ammo on Hunting Grounds)
Now it'll only proc every five seconds

[tardy mural]

ohhhh ok

[tame lodge]

Still S tier aura

[austere mica]

1% ammo every 5 seconds under peak performance is really good

Crackhead dbarrel weapon spec has no ammo problems even without it

[tardy mural]

[tame lodge]

So it's a pretty straightforward game

[idle bluff]

rending strikes or fully loaded?

[austere mica]

Short playtime doesn't exactly mean bad game

But it can be indicative

Buckshot Roulette is like 30 mins and really fun

It is like 5$ though

Trying to find other examples

Worldless

Absolutely beautiful game

[faint beacon]

8/10 ign btw, immediately knew not to trust it

5 hour campaign is extremely worrisome to me hopefully the PVE has an enjoyable loop to it

[oblique totem]

That is... A very short campaign

[faint beacon]

Though Tbf the real meat and bone to SM2 Has been campaign and PVP

Or well the first game

It’s PVP is still active today

[austere mica]

Wait isn't original campaign longer?

[terse idol]

I just hope the pve holds up

[oblique totem]

The first game lasted about ten hours from what I recall. It was very straightforward.

[faint beacon]

I have it’s about the sameish

But idk I could’ve just not noticed time fly by lmao

[austere mica]

Wow

[faint beacon]

It was a really fucking fun campaign

[austere mica]

13 years and yet

[faint beacon]

Recall they’re having seasons of content as well which ALSO worries me

[austere mica]

I randomly read a guide on SM1 multiplayer meta and tech just because

And yeah holy shit are there shenanigans

Stalker bolter being able to be fired with scoped accuracy from the hip

[faint beacon]

Yeah it’s PVP is jank but like

That’s what was fun about it

All builds were good in certain playstyles

[austere mica]

I never actually player the pvp

[faint beacon]

Heavies being annoying by merely existing at range at all

[austere mica]

I just used a bit of the tech to play a bunch of the campaign

Never made it past orks though

Just never played a second session

[unique orchid]

Would you lot consider the standard shovel "bad"?

[austere mica]

I'm a fan

Haven't used it since I got something better

But its neat

[unique orchid]

I live and breathe by it tbh, luv me shovel

[tame lodge]

Nope, it's just that this game suffers from "the alternative is better"

[last parcel]

cult of the boop

[unique orchid]

I have chosen to ignore the power sword for the longest

[oblique totem]

Wipe the cult out

[unique orchid]

If im not using my shovel, im using either a knife because ive lost my mind or im using my chainsword, usually because commissar cosplay

[terse idol]

It's alright vs hordes better than the sapper shovels

Struggles against cara

[idle swallow]

Take the krieg pill and run shovel/helbore

[austere mica]

Knives are perfectly normal

As long as you do them right

[last parcel]

and the right way is flesh tearer lacerate

[oblique totem]

chainsword go brrrrrr

[tall torrent]

IGN’s 8 can mean a lot of things lol

Seems like they want to build it as a live service game then cuz the launch offering looks rather small

[austere mica]

Throwing bricks at you

[neat stratus]

Typically that its either an actual 8/10 or HAS to be sponsored

[tall torrent]

Nah some games are above 8 but get rated 8

[balmy flume]

A dumb question about the Void map (the latest one with the masked NPC)
You know how you have to reset the battery and such, and Rannick (or whoever it is) keeps yelling at the team for getting it wrong?
Is there an actual sequence? Or is it designed convo that always says the same thing?

[tall torrent]

It’s just muddy waters

[unique orchid]

Just keep doing it until it works

[tall torrent]

U have to fix the things in time

Or it resets

[balmy flume]

Ah ok

I played the map somewhat later so far less instances of the mistakes holding things up forever (read: somehow all the PUGs I have been in get it right eventually lol)

[unique orchid]

Ah its just how it works

Do your guys pug psykers generally blow up at least once a mission, or that just me?

[balmy flume]

It does happen, yes

[unique orchid]

Ah good, lore accurate astra militarum psyker

[balmy flume]

I play psyker to farm penances, and at Auric levels…you reach boom point pretty quickly.

[unique orchid]

Oh i play on heresy, im a casual

[idle bluff]

this just dropped

[unique orchid]

Aye pretty good

[tall torrent]

Stopping power too low

[balmy flume]

Heresy is…it’s 50/50 on heresy level.
Depends on when it happens. Heresy can get busy enough to require a psyker to keep up the pressure.
But obviously there are times where it should be quiet enough for quelling.

[idle bluff]

are there thresholds im not meeting?

[unique orchid]

Indeed, only happens like 3/5ths the time

[unique orchid]

If you wanna suck off the meta, i think its fine

[balmy flume]

The 63% Stopping Power is too low is what is indicated.

[unique orchid]

Does good damage, is stable and charges fast

[idle bluff]

but is that gonna make a real diffrence with 80 damage and charge?

[unique orchid]

Is stopping power stagger or damage on hit i forget

[idle bluff]

prolly staggee

stagger

[unique orchid]

Hit V while selecting the gun, you can look in detail at what it does

[tall torrent]

Yea

[tall torrent]

Damage & stagger

[unique orchid]

If you say breakpoint im gonna rip you in half

Unless youre gonna play auric damnation its a good helbore

[tall torrent]

Auric doesn’t have extra breakpoint related things compared to damnation

63% stopping power is just not good

[unique orchid]

If it rolls good im certain he can make use of it still

You guys are so damn negative

[terse idol]

It's not about being negative

[unique orchid]

Fair enough i suppose

Thats all ive wanted to hear honestly

Forgive my petulance, theres so much "weapon bad" discussion it just rubs me the wrong way a bit

[tall torrent]

That’s the thing it isn’t a good roll

It’s not getting good numbers in stats that truly matter

[unique orchid]

Yes yes i understand

[last parcel]

good and bad are such vague terms. we should use completely objective terms instead
such as viable

[unique orchid]

I think most weapons fall under this umbrella

To varying degrees

Its just a strange and somewhat irritating metric of "this isnt a top 5 weapon, it isnt worth using"

Though i likely have a negativity bias

Im surprised the psword was dethroned honestly, given how it held the tiers hostage until SotMG

I see

Now its axe meta right?

I run uncanny on my shovel, good stuff

[tall torrent]

Unyielding

[unique orchid]

Adm?

[tall torrent]

Armor damage modifier

[unique orchid]

Ah

Trades some of that surv and dps for melee range though

And the funny poke

You are right though, wish it hit a little harder versus armor since its a blunt weapon

[tall torrent]

It’s fine vs most armor it just sucks really badly vs unyielding

[unique orchid]

I think thats fine then, s'what kraks are for

[midnight totem]

alright

anybody up for a game?

[last parcel]

still going?

[tame lodge]

Fun fact

[midnight totem]

in a team now

[oblique totem]

Ok what about now? I just tuned in.

[orchid hemlock]

im curious, does anyone use tac axes on vet? 🤔

[last parcel]

literally nobody in the entire population of the game uses tac axes on vet

[orchid hemlock]

tac axe got buffed and is now viable on zealot, but what about Vet?

[oblique totem]

I don't often see vets using it and I hate using it

[uncut pebble]

cough @faint beacon cough

[faint beacon]

Hi hello

whats the question

[faint beacon]

yes

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/izEPOx16oePbU-61-/d1337jlOB0Zq?invite=cr-MSxDb3UsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

I run rending strikes + trench fighter drill with it

[uncut pebble]

I heard "vet tac axe" and immediately thought of you.

[orchid hemlock]

wait how did u stop the charge?

[faint beacon]

TFD is no fucking joke with the Taxe

Special Attack

aim at the head

its like the shovel

[orchid hemlock]

wait that weapon looks like a shovel

[faint beacon]

Mods

Its a Taxe

I just make all my melee's shovels

cause I dont feel like a Veteran

unless im swinging a shovel

[orchid hemlock]

which tac axe is that?

[faint beacon]

Taxe 4

Taxe 2 is better objectively

but I like the headtaker + BM combo light spam

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iAorYBU9gp5y-k_Nk/d1337Pt4FtJ8?invite=cr-MSxUMVMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

No shame to this veteran

I just thought the title was funny given what they're doing

but here's an example of me horde clearing with it

[orchid hemlock]

Mentions Tanner

🤮

[faint beacon]

Tanner says you should use Plasma for Horde Clear

You dont do that

[serene bough]

hes not doing it right

youre supposed to overload your plasma and self destruct for horde clear

this is a common sense strategy

[proud marsh]

new vet here, I just unlocked access to the plasma gun, and I'm somewhat unsure how to use it

[oblique totem]

I'm not allowed to hold the plasma gun anymore because I would overload it and throw it like a grenade.

[proud marsh]

it has a low ammo count, so I'm guessing it's for carapace targets? And I use my melee for most things?

[serene bough]

you can comfortably spam plasma M1 at all elite/specialst threats

hordes and common enemies can be chopped up in melee

[tame lodge]

Gets hot+ shock trooper

[serene bough]

shocktroop applies to plasma?

[tame lodge]

Yeah it's laser, sort of

[serene bough]

makes sense i guess but I never thought to try it

[tame lodge]

Deadshot doesn't though

[faint beacon]

Its okayish against Cara even though it should hit hard against it, however

specials

elites

etc

(Gunners, shotgunners, ragers)

literally fucking deletes them

Its not meant for horde clear

its pick target type of weapon

[umbral scaffold]

It's a better revolver

I hate it

[umbral scaffold]

That is very one-sided and childish of that man

I will report him to the appropriate authorities

[woeful ibex]

Goddamn Moebian Psykers

Spamming Daemon hosts

[faint beacon]

@proper stump Basically if you're looking to snipe you'll have to get yourself one of these

This is basically the optimal set up

[proper stump]

That's the básic lasgun no?

[faint beacon]

Yup, the stock basic Lasgun

[proper stump]

I want to cry

My MK12

[faint beacon]

MK12 is playable its just

[proper stump]

Has those blessings both level 4

[faint beacon]

not as optimal vs the others atm

[proper stump]

And 25 damaged against flak and maniac

[proper stump]

Better rating than that one

[faint beacon]

Hold onto it

[proper stump]

It was literally the perfect sniper

[orchid hemlock]

is ghost better than DA? 🤔

[uncut pebble]

Wait until the 26th. Itemization update will let you change the model.

[proper stump]

And now the enemies tank it like hell

[faint beacon]

You can swap its marks when the Itemization drops

[faint beacon]

Up to personal opinion

Ghost or DA

[uncut pebble]

Also, they might be buffing weapons that have been power crept, so you may hold out hope.

[faint beacon]

TRUE

COPIUM IS STILL THERE

[uncut pebble]

Combat shotguns are in a bad spot, as well.

PEAK COPIUM

[faint beacon]

They did state CShotguns are getting buffed

[last parcel]

the future is not real just scrap everything that isn't a 550 and isn't currently meta

[proper stump]

I hope so because that sniper is the strongest one I have and it's probably perfect

[uncut pebble]

I NEED THIS AGRI SHOTGUN TO AT LEAST 1TAP TRASH

[faint beacon]

All seriousness

just hold onto it

[uncut pebble]

ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING I ONLY PULL IT OUT WITH A CRIT READY

[faint beacon]

hell what is your build atm

[grand perch]

no, it doesnt

[faint beacon]

running with it cause I could help optimize it as effectively as possible with it to make it seem not as miserable

[proper stump]

Full on Ranger with some infiltration crit perks

[orchid hemlock]

watch itemization update just make everyone use the most boring builds imaginable

[austere mica]

I just want combat shotguns on psyker so I can use gaze and true aim and become a monster

[faint beacon]

You at all able to take like a Screenshot of it?

[proper stump]

I'm not on My laptop

[faint beacon]

Fuck

[proper stump]

Me on ma bed

Gonna do the eepy soon

[uncut pebble]

Scattershot manstopper agri combat shotgun with scriers gaze would go so hard.

[austere mica]

Nah

[last parcel]

you could make it here and link it
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[austere mica]

Lawbringer

[last parcel]

or eep

eep good

[faint beacon]

@proper stump Yeah that

[uncut pebble]

Why lawbringer?

[faint beacon]

use that if you want

[austere mica]

True Aim

[faint beacon]

and then I can throw together what you'd probably want to run

[austere mica]

And perfectly flat spread

[proper stump]

Ill check it out

[uncut pebble]

Oh, I see.

[austere mica]

The horde devourer

[uncut pebble]

You also wouldn't need scattershot, come to think of it.

[austere mica]

Yep

Run Flechette

[uncut pebble]

True aim would just... guarantee a crit with every blast.

[austere mica]

The meme build is finally actualized

[faint beacon]

@proper stump I have two simple questions

What ability and keystone do you want

Exec Stance + Marksman Focus
Exec Stance + Focus Target
etc

[proper stump]

I haven't played for months so I forgot about the technicalities of the names

Basically my exec stance outlines elite enemies and ranged enemies

My goal with the build is to be able to clear the battlefield of ranged enemies and specialists.

Classic counter sniper

[faint beacon]

Correct, VOC (Voice of Command) is a buff that instantly gives toughness and staggers all nearby enemies on their ass, and Infiltrate is a stealth option that gives toughness on use and supresses all nearby enemies when you exit it

Okay so immediately Exec Stance

now my question is

can you click on heads or not

[proper stump]

Yeah

That's the point of it

Me veteran at being a veteran

[faint beacon]

I mainly ask keystone wise cause some people would prefer the raw damage increase of Focus Target

they recently buffed Marksman Focus so its actually decent to constantly maintain

[proper stump]

I only go raw with machineguns

And extra stamina

But me be sniping

[faint beacon]

I think I have a rough build for you to try

but its got all the must have Talents veteran needs

[junior needle]

Exe will help you do this, but it's important to note that you can do that without it. As you go into higher difficulties, exe also becomes increasingly harder to extract value from as it drops the instant you switch to melee.

[faint beacon]

@proper stump Honestly just covered all the basic shit you need and what your describing to be your playstyle

[junior needle]

And things will constantly be spawning right behind you

[faint beacon]

aka shoot heads

Actually shit

no hold on im used to aggressive vet

let me fix something rq

[last parcel]

not allowed

this build is written in stone

mods, big friendly rock this mf

[proper stump]

What u talking about

[junior needle]

ARBITES, SMACK HIS NUTS

[proper stump]

What's that thing

A bot?

[faint beacon]

Okay here's an ACTUAL sniper based build

Longshot is meant for shooting at range

kinda important!

[proper stump]

Like My build

But i got deadshot

[uncut pebble]

The Adeptus Arbites are the ones that judge you for your crimes.

[proper stump]

Since i got a ton of stamina

[faint beacon]

You wont need Deadshot, Headhunter makes up for it

[proper stump]

I see

[junior needle]

What weapon

[faint beacon]

Mg12

we're trying to make it playable

its their god roll lasgun

[junior needle]

k12 ilas?

[faint beacon]

yes

[proper stump]

I know the lore i was talking about the account with a ton of flags

[last parcel]

beep boop

[junior needle]

It's olde and busted, 1a is pretty much a straight upgrade now

[faint beacon]

They snipe with it

Yeah I

had to hit them with that fact

[last parcel]

it has sentimental value

[proper stump]

Definitely not a bot

[uncut pebble]

Oh that's just Backup, the resident slaaneshi heretic.

[proper stump]

Ew

[faint beacon]

Yeah

[last parcel]

wow ok

[uncut pebble]

A creature that has useful knowledge from time to time.

[faint beacon]

Heretic prime dare I say it

[junior needle]

You know who else has sentimental value?

[proper stump]

Your mom

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[uncut pebble]

Where's that disintegrating baby image when I need it...

[last parcel]

*shift leader primus thank you very much

[uncut pebble]

More like "shit leader primus."

[proper stump]

That's more nurgly than slaneeshit

[uncut pebble]

Still heretical, regardless.

[last parcel]

well scat is still a thing

[uncut pebble]

The bill fits.

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/scatman-john-scatman-scatmans-world-skibidi-bum-du-du-du-gif-14752774

[uncut pebble]

Cease.

[proper stump]

I banish you to Japan

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-gif-12797649

[uncut pebble]

So Backup is a fat man, got it.

[faint beacon]

@proper stump Anyways yeah, save that ^

Try it sometime with your MG12, I'd recommend imo doing 1 HP 2 toughness curios seeing you're running Iron will which is... REALLY strong on Veteran

This wacky thing

[proper stump]

I understand

It will be done

Thanks you for your help

[faint beacon]

Yeah no problem

[proper stump]

I like exploding heads

[uncut pebble]

Iron will lets you eat a crusher overhead and still look him in the eyes and say he hits like a child.

[faint beacon]

Look im just a simple low level reject okay

[proper stump]

Disgusting

And admirable

[faint beacon]

You hit him with that fucking Ogryn stare

[proper stump]

At the same time

[uncut pebble]

[faint beacon]

I play Auric Damnation and Maelstrom casually, I know I dont bathe

(I do this is a lie)

[proper stump]

Lmao

[last parcel]

are you sure

[faint beacon]

Yes im sure Inquisitor Backup

[proper stump]

Technical difficulties going to infomercials

[proper stump]

I used to do that

[last parcel]

but then i took an arrow in the knee

[proper stump]

Now i can't even play level 5 missions

Am so rusty

[grand perch]

heresy grows from idleness indeed

[proper stump]

Oi am no heretic

Yo papa heretic

[last parcel]

that's what a heretic would say

[proper stump]

I'm pure like Golden pepita

Pure as 100% cocoa

[faint beacon]

You just gotta keep playing

[grand perch]

it was a play on words that you are playing a lower difficulty

[proper stump]

It went over ma head

[proper stump]

Indeed

Well

Now i do the eepy

Ill be back with more another day

[faint beacon]

Better get karkin stuck in

[faint beacon]

See even thinking about heresy is heresy

you're sure you're not a heretic

[last parcel]

i'm sure i'm a heretic

check out this pox grenade

[tough tiger]

I'm a walking pox grenade after eating beans

[faint beacon]

name checks out

[distant phoenix]

Why can't this be normal

Not sure what causes it but it sure would be nice if the poses actually used our equipped weapons and skins

[oblique totem]

Fatshark failed us

[jaunty sphinx]

lost another auric mael streak

pain

I s2g one day ill get that title

[drowsy aspen]

You fight with honor

[last parcel]

but the barrel does not

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-kitty-komaru-cat-explosion-cat-cat-explosion-gif-4940756872467221811

[remote idol]

I'm also trying to get this title.
But I find that in Aurique Damnation, the level has drastically dropped. People don't know how to play or don't know how to play anymore.

So on Maelstrom ...

[jaunty sphinx]

I try not to blame my teammates but I shouldnt have accepted the mission when it was 3 psykers

just a really unbalanced comp

[jaunty sphinx]

lmao I love this bug

[distant phoenix]

Lol ye

[distant phoenix]

If you want I can try to help you thru it

[jaunty sphinx]

perhaps another time, im tired

plus 10 missions is a GRIND

[distant phoenix]

Aww felt that

Took me two months to get it on my own

I think my keyboard is just as tired too

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/prout-fart-fire-gif-12369233

[drowsy aspen]

I mostly have good teams on Maelstrom. Honestly, though...

If you're trying to get the title, it's not always dishonorable to quit a game IMO

Just do it between encounters

You don't have to be an ALT F4 goblin to leave a sinking ship, yknow what I'm saying?

On the run I got the title, I never alt f4'd, but I did leave a team that was clearly not pulling its weight

[rigid pilot]

🥇

[remote idol]

I'm not used to leaving a game in progress anyway, I don't work like that. And this is even if I get angry behind my screen at what my teammates are doing, and knowing that some evenings I could throw stones at myself.
I stay until the victory screen, or the interstellar spanking that ends up arriving. A little too much lately actually.

[placid portal]

Only leave mid game if greater duty calls

(Me fixing the living room television)

[drowsy aspen]

...Ehhh, idk

If you don't work that way, it's chill

Honorable, even

The game even rewards those who fight 'till the end - a streak doesn't end with a game over where you didn't actually die

But also- this achievement is a huge time investment, and I don't think there's anything wrong with choosing a game where you think you've got a real shot

Instead of doggedly hanging onto a team that seems to loathe the idea of turning around

Discretion is the better part of valor... though hurriedly slamming alt f4 to cover one's foolish mistakes is the opposite of discretion

...Ayo different fuckin topic - what's the best Braced Autogun

I've heard they're more of a zealot weapon, but I've yet to hear a reason why

And they feel better to me than the IAG

[distant phoenix]

They're pretty similar to infantry ags in terms of how they perform. Blue shoots fastest, brown hits hardest, green is the middle. I like to run the green BAG with the mk4 Dclaw on my zealot sometimes when I'm feeling silly

[distant phoenix]

From what I hear the brown one (looks like an ak47) is very satisfying to use

[drowsy aspen]

Hmmm - I've mostly stuck to blue, so I'll have to check it out

What blessings do you typically run?

[lusty sapphire]

Because of dance with death and anoint in blood

One gives 75% better spread and recoil and the other up to 25% extra dmg the closer a target is to you

Vet can use them just as fine. Good pair for shout and exe stance but they'll be more of a complementary piece to your melee

[lusty sapphire]

Deathspitter and fire frenzy

[drowsy aspen]

Complementary to melee... so weird

You'd think a braced gun would be more suited to dedicated use, while the smg would be more of a quickswap weapon

Oh well

[drowsy aspen]

...Oh wild

75% spread and recoil... never once used that lol

God, I'm imagining those two on the Bolter now

[lusty sapphire]

That is why bolter zealot is a thing yeah

Not many run it but then again not many ppl actually know wtf they are doing when playing zealot

Don't think just cause vet is marketed as range and zealot as melee then they don't have the ability to dabble into melee and range respectively

[drowsy aspen]

Oh trust me, I know

I'm an Ogryn main

I didn't imagine Ogryn ranged could be any good until I started playing Gunlugger

[lusty sapphire]

Yeah more of a general message for whoever reads this

[drowsy aspen]

Kopi kopi

[drowsy aspen]

Revolver on zealot is also great

But that's mostly because the Zarona is just cracked

[lusty sapphire]

This lol

[drowsy aspen]

I still haven't done Warp Charge revolver

I'm a little bit afraid to

What if I can't go back?

...oh yeah what does the Revolver Vet look like?

[lusty sapphire]

Someone sent a funny video let me find it

[lusty sapphire]

#veteran-class message

[frank ether]

it already is when it comes to plasma

[pseudo fiber]

People on the subreddit are discussion if its balanced or not.
Fun times.

[frank ether]

If its up to debate for them then they are a waste of oxygen

[remote idol]

Anyway, if I don't have the title I'm not going to die from it. I have my Auric Exemplar - I don't remember the exact title anymore - that I got perfectly and I'm happy with it.
I have all the rewards of the penances, it seems more like a bonus than anything else, I'll see if I motivate myself enough to really get it back.

[coarse wolf]

it fucks

[drowsy aspen]

My god, its... beautiful

[drowsy aspen]

Ye man, I realized right after writing that it truly isn't a big deal

If you can beat multiple Maelstroms back to back, you can get the penance

All other considerations are just shortcuts - and how closely to developer intention you want to wend

[remote idol]

That's what I had started in fact, a Maelstrom mission after a warm-up lap in Aurique Damnation.
But ... Well, bad team, not the level several nights on my side or not the eyes in front of the holes; let's say that my counter returned several times to zero.
Not a big deal.

[low pagoda]

hum

in real situation

u would not have min max

so it's kinda pointless to go for max damage with oriented max damage skill tree in psychonium

[hot knoll]

hey guys , what are the best blessings for power sword?

[radiant chasm]

Power cycler plus Brutal momentum or Sunder. Slaught and rampage being good enough placeholders

[gilded wraith]

BM on the 6, Sunder on the 3

[pliant sentinel]

No way people are saying plasma gun isn't good for boss damage

One of the strongest weapons in the fucking game...

Pair it with a mk vi power sword and you are quite literally unstoppable

[analog mural]

Well I mean when you can toss a krak or two to kill a boss yeah plasma seems kind of underwhelming

[idle swallow]

bolter dumping into the beast of nurgle back pimple gives me life

[gilded wraith]

Guessing IAG mk 5 and recons both have signficantly higher boss dps.

[shadow basin]

what are y'all's favorite keystones?

[lavish token]

WS

[gilded wraith]

slow melee I like weapon specialization, if I don't have points in the right tree I'll grab focus

[pseudo fiber]

Weapon specialist is a lot of fun

[idle swallow]

If I'm feeling team oriented in my build or I need an important breakpoint I go focus target, otherwise weapon specialist

[gilded wraith]

focus is really nice on monsterous maelstroms

[pseudo fiber]

Yeay

With kraks

[pliant sentinel]

bolter dumping🤝plasma dumping

[heavy rover]

Focus target. Matching it with target down and the 8 stacks on a recon lasgun with Deadshot and shocktrooper is hilarious to use and very ammo efficient

[pliant sentinel]

What's y'all's favorite recon las variant?

Mine is the MKII

[tame lodge]

Marksman

[heavy rover]

Mk vii

[vale dirge]

how do i use the plasma gun well?
i was trying to learn as i go but the entire team died very quickley

[pliant sentinel]

fuck the charge, use left click only

[shadow basin]

light attack spam

[vale dirge]

any specific % where its better or do i just have to not explode?

[shadow basin]

iirc even if you literally spam left click you still wont blow up, maybe dont test that in a match tho lol

[pliant sentinel]

It builds up charge, cool it down at 95%

Reloading early also cools it down instantly

If you try and fire it at 100% you will die

[shadow basin]

my mistake then

[pliant sentinel]

The second it starts beeping, cool it down

[tame lodge]

You'll only explode if you charge it
Spamming LMB is way safer/better

[pliant sentinel]

Or fire it till it reaches 100

Either method builds up charge

But LMB is definitely the way to go

[tame lodge]

No, I meant RMB charge
Not heat

[pliant sentinel]

Oh

[tame lodge]

Heat is good

Gets hot! value

[vale dirge]

i need whatever helps me kill the warpspawn abomination things the fastest

also, the rmb charge dosent seem that bad. just a bit slow.

[tame lodge]

[pliant sentinel]

Yeah that perk is goated

[pliant sentinel]

krak grenades, pgun and psword

tag and shout

[shadow basin]

i love the power sword so much i feel so kickass when using them

[pliant sentinel]

MK VI with sunder and power cycler

Fucking god tier

[shadow basin]

what'd be a good gun to pair it (and krak) with?

[pliant sentinel]

Literally anything

[shadow basin]

for versatility, that is

[pliant sentinel]

I prefer to run the plasma gun

kasrkin type shit

[tame lodge]

Your dps is better against bosses if you just spam lmb

[vale dirge]

how much of it?

[tame lodge]

Oh I'm not sure about the threshold but it's all about the Gets hot! blessing

[analog mural]

I usually vent down to like 40-50 and lmb back up

[vale dirge]

also, what meele weapon is better for horde clearing?
chain or power weapons
or normal ones?

[pliant sentinel]

power

[frank ether]

Definitely WS in terms of fun I would slap it on every single build but certain bugs stop me from doing so

like executioner stance interation with it is completely borked

[remote idol]

It will depend on the day, I have all 3 models, I like all 3 models. It will really be pure feeling on the first part, if the weapon does the job or not.

[shadow basin]

damn, that sucks

[frank ether]

yeah, I'll keep moaning about it till whoever from fatshark is reading this chat gets sick and tired of it and pushes for a fix

but yea besides that, its a really fun keystone

[tame lodge]

Tin foil hat on
It's borked on purpose so you don't replicate the era of Exe reloading your weapon
Tin foil hat off
Kinda weird that it's borked, it doesn't really reload that much ammo and the crit is only on the first shot

It would be a very fun mag dumping bolter build though

[frank ether]

thats kinda what I want to do

I think exe-ws would be more fun

the ult is built around uptime but I dont care about that

[radiant chasm]

Yee exe needs to not end if you swap

And that will fix a ton

[frank ether]

Now that you mentioned this it might have been indeed a purposeful decision

Its not that far fetched

[tame lodge]

Or they could make it so that when abruptly end exe you'd refund some cool down or something like that

[frank ether]

that alone would make me take it more often but honestly I think they could balance it around in a way where you can have both versions with some trade-offs

[radiant chasm]

The trade off you could lose the bonuses or the remaining duration doesn’t pause

I think every keystone and ability should have some synergy as a game design

Exec stance and wspec should work together

[frank ether]

yeah I think its a better way to move forward to but I also regret not realizing I'd enjoy such a thing sooner because I was so dead set on hating the keystones and overall state of vet talent tree at the time

[radiant chasm]

Like yea certain keystones and abilities might have better synergy but the options should still exist

[frank ether]

I think the current left tree exe>marksman is too hyperfocused on doing one thing very well (finesse damage) and so it just ends up not a very fun playstyle as a result

tbf it does work well on some weapons regardless

[radiant chasm]

I guess they want to avoid the rambo brauto/shredder era

[frank ether]

That is kinda why I thought having exe branch out based on subnodes chosen is a smart solution

but its also extra work to balance lol

[uncut pebble]

An issue I find with it is that both exe stance and MF are huge point taxes for little return.

And also, exe stance is a pain in the ass to use at higher difficulties because drawing your melee turns it off.

It's just a very hard/inconvenient setup to work with.

[frank ether]

Yeah so I want it to proc WS and maybe get a short cd but the more I think about this the more I realize maybe this was deliberately not the direction they chose out of fear it might be really broken with certain weapons autoreloading and having free crits with exe like think of zarona, double barrel etc

[uncut pebble]

For example, I'm of the opinion that ogryns should automatically be highlighted by exe stance, but thats an aux node, and you can't pick that and highlighted basic shooters.

Makes using it a pain.

[charred finch]

aight veteran brains

what's y'alls preferred blessings on the shovels

[uncut pebble]

Sapper or standard issue?

[last parcel]

standard issue is still a sapper shovel

[radiant chasm]

Uncanny +1

[last parcel]

i go uncanny strikes + skullcrusher for standard issue and uncanny + thrust for the two folding shovels

[vale dirge]

i was told power weapons were best for horde clearing
i was lied to
the chainaxe did it better

[charred finch]

mk3

[charred finch]

ty

[pliant sentinel]

Wouldn't know, I don't use shovels

[charred finch]

then why answer

[pliant sentinel]

Gee, sorry

[heavy rover]

Currently running thrust + decimator. Decimator and skull crusher is also nice for light spam

[radiant chasm]

Chainaxe is really slow at horde clearing tho, it’s pretty safe but idk how you make a power sword clear slower than it

[charred finch]

[radiant chasm]

Like mk4 even with slaught ht is below average when it comes to horde clear speed

[atomic zephyr]

chainaxe with the melee speed boost is fairly decent at it

[last parcel]

you leave it turned off and aim for the body

or at least that’s how i did it

[atomic zephyr]

at least the new chainaxe that doesnt lock with light attacks

[radiant chasm]

It’s decent in terms of safety and staying consistent as you add in bruiser and melee elites, it is not fast however

[radiant chasm]

Mk4 lights are for single target, you use heavies and PA for clear

[vale dirge]

not having to repeatedley charge up to power sword before each attack to kill whatever horde is in front of you instantley is definetley a advantage in the favour of the chainaxe. mabye i havent figured out how to use power weapons correctley who knows. but so far the chain axe seems to remove hordes faster from what i noticed

[atomic zephyr]

dont sleep on chainsword

[radiant chasm]

Once you get it built up power sword will absolutely clear through faster than chainaxe

[tame lodge]

Sorry (not really) to be the bearer of bad news
But chaxes have target cap

[radiant chasm]

No? Except maybe mk12 lights but im like, hmm maybe im just stupid and distracted this morning

[pliant sentinel]

MK IV Chainsword+MGIa Lasgun=Based Cadian

[atomic zephyr]

im waiting for hadron to give me my 380 mg1a lasgun back after she bricked it

for now its chainsword and mg4 lasgun

[radiant chasm]

Without power cycler and proper blessings power sword can feel lethargic but it just keeps getting better

[pliant sentinel]

MK III knife is unbelievably busted too

Once it's set up for crits