#veteran-class

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somber axle
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The II and VIIa have much slower fire rates so they struggle to get nearly the same degree of value out of Onslaught that the VId does

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But I've kinda made Exe Stance, MF, CitA and Rending Strikes work for spraying down squads of Maulers with the II and VIIa

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The little bit of extra rending from Rending Strikes and CitA go a LONG way to making them feel better vs Maulers

ocean idol
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show your build again

somber axle
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This is what I tend to use for the VId

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Here's a message link for a few builds I alternate between for the Mk II and Mk VIIa

faint beacon
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What Siegfried?

somber axle
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The Exe Stance/Marksman's Focus build I mentioned is there too

faint beacon
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Like Istfg im the only Veteran on the morningstar with that name

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I've yet to see another

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Slide, and Dodge

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VOC to have Golden to absorb

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Smoke Grenades

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lets see what else

last parcel
faint beacon
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Any blessing that gives you immunity to ranged attacks

last parcel
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use cover plus the other things above

candid agate
somber axle
faint beacon
candid agate
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if im in the open should i just run to cover

faint beacon
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Ghost usually for any guns that are precision based

candid agate
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like infantry lasguns

faint beacon
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Stripped down paired with Duck and Dive is actually stupid

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I have a clip to show that off

midnight mesa
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Best perks for a Plasma Gun

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Like should I put one for carapace?

last parcel
faint beacon
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Here this

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its so damn dumb

midnight mesa
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Maybe replace flak with

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Idk

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Unyielding?

somber axle
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You could also try running Gunner Resist on your curios. With Iron Will, a Toughness curio or two and Determined you can just sorta tank Gunners at a distance and keep shooting them down. Ghost (for Laspistol, Infantry Lasguns and Headhunter Autoguns) is also really good for just standing out in the open Stormtrooper style and ignoring shots like you've got the plot armour of a named character

faint beacon
somber axle
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Mix in a slide dodge here and there when things are extra spicy

faint beacon
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I'll send it here in a second

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game just crashed!

candid agate
candid agate
somber axle
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If you've got the TDR, a solid amount of toughness and Confirmed Kill running you can sorta just eat an entire firing line sometimes and pick them off one after the other

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If the toughness pops you're probably going to get shredded though LOL

faint beacon
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@candid agate So here's your two Must's

candid agate
faint beacon
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I honestly suggest

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highly

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get Stripped Down 4

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on your weapon of choice

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and then that talent

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they synergize so well its fucking disgusting

candid agate
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hmm

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i have a voc weapons specialist build that i could probably do that with]

faint beacon
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Be cool and Run IAG's

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Agri and Graia to be exact

candid agate
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though i doubt ill have enough points for my focus fire build

faint beacon
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(we hate the CIAG in this household)

somber axle
faint beacon
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@candid agate Should also ask do you know your absolute MUST TAKE talents for Veteran

candid agate
candid agate
faint beacon
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Alright well here I'll give you a run down

last parcel
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build done chadgryn

candid agate
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oh i already have those on both my builds lol at least the blue ones

faint beacon
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What backup sent is your must for VOC but if we're trying to be flexible.

Red: Highly Recommend/Musts
Orange: Recommend
Yellow: Suggest if you dont want to Tax yourself with Grenade Regen (If you're not running a VOC build)

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obviously take into consideration the build you're making is you're running Duck and Dive

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Which I honestly recommend doing Weapon Specialist for your keystone

candid agate
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i mean weapon specialist doesnt really work that well with a focus fire build

faint beacon
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You're doing Focus Target?

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The golden tag right

candid agate
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wait im a dunder head

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meant executioner stancw

faint beacon
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I'd say thats an interesting choice for these High Mobility high ROF weapons

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but its possible

last parcel
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but really janky since activating executioner's stance won't proc the swap bonus from weapon specialist

candid agate
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to be fair rn my autogun has dum dum and fire fenzy

faint beacon
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More so the fact of just Exec on the weapons in general

candid agate
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so its more damage than mobility

faint beacon
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DumDum

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is a must on those weapons

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I suggest DumDum + stripped Down

candid agate
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oh so swap out fire frenzy

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gotcha

faint beacon
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yeah

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Dumdum is easier to get damage off of

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Actually Im wondering

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if you want to run Exec with the weapon

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let me experiment actually

uncut pebble
faint beacon
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ngl I just threw something together that might work?

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Kinda just fucking winged it lmao

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Gonna test is Psyk real quick

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@candid agate I have one simple question

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can you click on heads at all

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or spray into headshots

last parcel
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time to spread the cult of hh

faint beacon
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No its a Marksman Focus build

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thats why

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Making sure they have Stripped Down + Duck and Dive

candid agate
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my aim is inconsistent as hell

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sometimes i dome a sniper from 100 metres away

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other times i cant hit a pox walker walking right by me

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so its like 60/40 chance to hit a bad guy

faint beacon
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Xbox or PC

candid agate
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PC

faint beacon
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OKAY YOU HAVE HOPE THEN

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lmao

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I might toss this to you just so you can forcefully improve yourself overtime

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cause trust me i was there

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I

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@last parcel you'll find this funny

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Im listening to LTG rage in the background

candid agate
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oddly though in TF2 when i use the bazaar bargain my aim turns godlike

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like the gun is blessed

faint beacon
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I got a really good clip to show off how this build works

lavish token
faint beacon
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he dropped the hard R right when I was about to show off this build

last parcel
faint beacon
last parcel
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taxes

faint beacon
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The best fucking melee ever

lavish token
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Taxe haters

faint beacon
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I will die on this hill

last parcel
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don't die on the hill

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kill on the hill

faint beacon
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@candid agate Alright got a clip to show it off in a vaccum

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obviously you'll be running around like a methhead the entire time seeing its Duck and Dive + Stripped Down

frank ether
lavish token
faint beacon
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@candid agate obviously run it with your IAG of choice with Stripped Down, just click on heads should be simple enough dude

lavish token
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The mk2 taxe actually a perfectly balanced weapon

faint beacon
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Mk4...

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I love the Mk4...

lavish token
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Shred headtaker, shred bromentum, bromentum headtaker

faint beacon
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BM + HT

frank ether
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I havent tried it after recent changes

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because I believe its all bait

faint beacon
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Though this is the Mk4, not the Mk2 which is objectively better

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Idk preference wise I prefer the Mk4

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but I will state Mk2 is better

old prism
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Yeah it's actually really funny how good vet gets with rashad

crimson pebble
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Psword still looks cooler tho

midnight totem
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Yeah but counterpoint

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Axes are ugly

crimson pebble
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Its def best axe skin but still stinky

upper scarab
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is this a good plasma gun?

crimson pebble
tough flower
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I thought Gets Hot didn't work well

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Might be outdated info

urban steppe
tough flower
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My mistake

tall torrent
shy oak
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mfw the level 15 vet somehow joins an auric lobby and runs around with a grey bolter, he was being pretty accurate tho with his name being Krieg related (dying alot) ((for glory))

crude fiber
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He must have been in someone else party

urban steppe
shy oak
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idk ive been getting alot of level 15 scion helmet vets (one of which sounded like an actual 5 year old and was screaming at us to pick him up after dying to like his 4th pox burster)

magic trout
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Which one?

radiant chasm
midnight totem
magic trout
midnight totem
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It's all new if you don't have it

muted gorge
midnight totem
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They could do it in another game

sleek garden
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what is it with shield ogryns and not knowing how to fight in auric

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as in they dont know how to fight at all and are in auric

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this shield ogryn did not have the node that gives him toughness on heavy attacks and with no shield and 24 health left i watched him pull out a medkit then put it away then run at a firing line of shooters without blocking after watching him stumble around and just push people as the last guy alive for 5 minutes

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its so infuriating

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it is like this every time

elder fiber
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every class has bad players that don't know how anything works, but its most aggressively noticeable with bad ogryns lol

crude fiber
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My favorite thing is someone placing down a medpack in the airlock before a med station

somber axle
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even better if both players holding medpacs drop them at the same time in an airlock right before a med station

crude fiber
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Love it when someone else an I both place down ammo packs and just look at each other for a second

last parcel
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i did that then magdumped to eat an entire pack so nobody would notice

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then i ate a mauler overhead

crude fiber
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Shooting while spamming e on the crate to insta eat it like a vacuum

last parcel
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none of us can aim chadgryn

oblique totem
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Aiming? We don't do that here.

hexed wave
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Why is Ogryn the only one who gets a Salute emote?

faint beacon
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Joins match that apparently immediately went to shit

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everyone's dead Plogryn with half HP a horde with like 3 tox bombers

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and clutches it

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what the fuck happened is all Im wondering

lethal idol
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as for now, my 2 primary weapons

faint beacon
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Head hunter at low level

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weeps

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That stability is so fucking punishing

lethal idol
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BUUUUUUUUUT ammo efficient, and i'm designed sharpshooter

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and recon for "fck ammo efficienty, more HO FCK HO F*CK"

faint beacon
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when you're level 30 and get actually good Headhunters

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literally anything with Stability Above 70% is usable and feels good

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My beloved Agri IX

undone quarry
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That 100% weak spot damage with crits is insane

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And headhunter makes the chance of a crit way more often

faint beacon
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Weakspot is actually the weakest part about it

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mainly just cause the calculation on it is really bad

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so when locks get lifted I was gonna change that to like

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unarmored or maniac

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probably unarmored cause i want to drop kick Dreg Gunners easier

sinful swallow
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I'm so fucked on my sleep medicine

sinful swallow
last parcel
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bro is juiced

sinful swallow
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There is chaous.

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Hard to get words out

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Everything mocks me in this flow state

last parcel
sinful swallow
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Ok 4s read.,.,,mmß my

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Brush this broke my brain

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I might bV smmsbhs

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Nightmare in the militarum

last parcel
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daemonic manifestations

sinful swallow
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Ól lol I can't wait to lplok back.pm.ynkd sober ens

Elmer
M and ro are too o o I i irritated Io in the I 8th RE i was I it 8th I ti I to I Io in i88

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Th e answer oz depth perception and primed stimulus

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sinful swallow
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Even as war p scramble my brains

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I hope you all laugh waiting an average man get laid low and slip into incomprehensible mess

last parcel
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🫡

sinful swallow
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My letters move

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Oli I wanted. t o come rant bout hellbores before demons tjm.....

they reflected my life into before they take me

last parcel
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the daemons shall fall to lasgun and bayonet

sinful swallow
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For the god emperor I die

tough tiger
karmic blade
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I just got this game but I’m new to gaming and don’t know how to find my way around getting the task done, I’m always lost trying to get to my destination 🤦🏽‍♂️

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Is there a way to get a map 😫

crimson pebble
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No

karmic blade
crimson pebble
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Repetition memory just following teammates

karmic blade
karmic blade
crimson pebble
tame lodge
fossil basalt
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Stick together. If you don't the Emperor will be mad (because you got hurt and he loves you)

candid agate
austere mica
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It’s a hand built grip out of two revolvers and a recon stock

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From a plug-in I believe

candid agate
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oh

tough tiger
austere mica
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Also look for places where you can safely drop down ledges

tough tiger
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Maps are all designed with linearity in mind, sometimes paths branch off but ultimately you reach the same đestination

crude fiber
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You and your teammates will occasionally say a voice line indicating your going thr right way as well

odd sparrow
karmic blade
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Is there a way for me to heal myself when my life/shield is low 😫

austere mica
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Toughness you just stab someone

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Simple as

fossil basalt
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don't get hit 4head /j

umbral scaffold
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can someone tell me how I randomly got deadeye

fossil basalt
umbral scaffold
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I had nothing equipped

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just a level 9 vet

fossil basalt
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spaghetti code go brrrr

karmic blade
austere mica
fossil basalt
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Toughness is refilled by:

being near teammates
killing enemies with melee
triggering certain abilities

austere mica
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Vet has a node high in the tree that regens a large amount when killing elites and specials

austere mica
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You have to not be near enemies

fossil basalt
austere mica
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Nope

fossil basalt
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that's dumb

austere mica
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You have to be away from stuff

fossil basalt
austere mica
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If it was constant you would be insanely hard to kill with 3x 30% toughness curios

fossil basalt
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be great if this game had useful information in its tutorials lmao

umbral scaffold
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tutorials?

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what tutorials?

fossil basalt
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cannae tell if /srs or /j

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but KEKW_ogryn either way

fossil basalt
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real

frank basin
stray storm
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For a autogun like the Headhunter would you rather take the middle keystone or left keystone?

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For using the combat stance ability

sinful swallow
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Headhunter you want marksman focus

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They benefit really well from finesse

stray storm
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Hm k

regal smelt
sinful swallow
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You can pull a sneaky cat though and use it for the firerate

karmic blade
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Man I forgot how to kill with melee

austere mica
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Hit things until they die?

regal smelt
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The only vet fire rate buff Sitgryn

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Ogryn and zealot get like 3 lol

stray storm
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Would Deadshot also work well or will that cause some issue?

sinful swallow
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Deadshot is good, it's just a skill check on stamina management

tulip shoal
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anybody know which of the recon lasguns is the best one?

austere mica
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Depends on what you want to do

tulip shoal
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so what is each one best at?

austere mica
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Mk6 has highest fire rate but is least efficient

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Mk2 is most efficient and is middle for fire rate and damage

stray storm
austere mica
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Mk7 takes 2 ammo per shot but does most damage

austere mica
tulip shoal
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ok thanks

stray storm
austere mica
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I haven’t slept

stray storm
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Its ok I don’t blame you

inland sundial
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super high stats but is this any good? never used a maul on my vet

austere mica
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Thrust to lightning reflex’s or skullcrusher (?) and stamina to flak

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Very nice

inland sundial
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I meant like... is the weapon actually useful

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it's on my daily store rn

austere mica
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Yes

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That is basically a god roll

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I would grab it even if it wasn’t good

inland sundial
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I figured but was wondering if the weapon type in general is good or bad

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mostly using a power sword or chainsword

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anyways thanks for the reroll tips

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I'll try it sometime soon ig

fossil basalt
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I haven't tried Agni but the Indig is a beast, just throw hordes around like an ogryn

inland sundial
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oh thats cool, I mainly use melee for hrodes anyways

fossil basalt
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although the roll I use is _ just cause I like Falter

austere mica
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Falter is one of the worst blessings

inland sundial
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gotta weigh good vs fun :D

fossil basalt
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yeah

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I like oggy shield levels of CC on a sparkly stick

austere mica
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It doesn’t even seem like it would be that fun though, hard to hit weak spots when everything is on the floor

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And no power outside of thrust is iffy

fossil basalt
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H1L2 just chains sidesweeps, thrust hits on H1 and the H2looping hit, which activates quite often

regal smelt
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I love these two blessings. Feels like the old vt2 20/40/60% damage on staggered talents again

fossil basalt
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maniac?

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got this on there

austere mica
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Flak elites is good

pliant kayak
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Just return to the game. I can't remember which axe is good? The only thing I remember is that Achlys is kinda bad

austere mica
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Rashad

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It’s an absolute bitch to roll though, especially on vet

pliant kayak
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What perk and blessing should I be looking for?

austere mica
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Flak, unarmored, headtaker, brutal momentum

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All required

pliant kayak
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Thanks

austere mica
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Oh and you also need nearly 80% stats in everything except mobility

pliant kayak
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Dam

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Maybe I should stick to my power sword

austere mica
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It’s easier to roll on zealot because you can fudge breakpoints with Martyrdom

umbral garnet
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Damage and First Target I feel are the most important stats, the closer to 80, the better. Finesse and Pen are also important, as long as they are over 70, they're fine.

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Mobility, dump stat, as Cann said.

austere mica
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Rashad becomes far easier to roll in a month

umbral garnet
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Real

austere mica
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But also probably nerfed

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(As collateral from a brutal momentum nerf)

terse idol
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Swear crusher BP relied on carapace

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Eh I guess both work

austere mica
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I just recommend flak because it’s the most common

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And it covers both shotgunners + scab ragers

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Maulers too

terse idol
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Typically you're hitting carapace vs maulers though

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Since your heavy attack is overhead

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Personally I found it worse when dealing with maulers when you take flak

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Since just taking carapace you can just spam heavies

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Into their head

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Scab ragers .. sure I just don't think scab ragers are that common nor are they as scary as regular ragers

austere mica
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Yeah but they exist

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Flak is just the most common armor

terse idol
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But it's not something I'd take for the BP on it

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Since carapace is your most dangerous enemies

feral granite
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Question regarding the heresy level missions, is a chainsword/plasma gun a good loadout? I ran with the shock maul/plasma gun, struggled a bit with melee, whereas PG carried with the rest of the damage

austere mica
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Plasma gun is one of the most powerful ranged weapons in the entire game

thick needle
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Mk13 Chainsword/Plasmagun is the tryhard meta, but it's not strictly the best

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Personally, I prefer using the mk6 power sword

odd sparrow
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Mk 6 is still S++ tier killing anything short of an ogryn in 1-2 hits. Only downside being low mobility

delicate hornet
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brunt has bankrupted me trying to roll even a 370 on a rashad i am weeping

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as i understand it brunt is still gonna be how we roll for bases though right?

thick needle
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I haven't even gotten one over 360 yet
The Omnissiah fuckin hates me

delicate hornet
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ive spent in the region of 1million dockets trying to roll a rashad lmfao

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melk has been of no help either

thick needle
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FIVE TRILLION MORE DOCKETS TO THE SHOP ZOMBIE

delicate hornet
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WAITER WAITER MORE 320 BASES

candid agate
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one of these days brunt is gonna be found dead in an alleyway the way he gives out weapons

delicate hornet
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ahhh right i see

thick needle
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Because that's just comedy gold

delicate hornet
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either way ive managed to basically complete the combat axe blessing sticker book so my mastery should be good when update hits :)

delicate hornet
thick needle
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I had a 7% reload speed Bolter once

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That shit took three business days to put a mag in

orchid hemlock
radiant chasm
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Marbles found

orchid hemlock
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POV: Me juggling 20 crushers while my team is struggling to kiill the one mutant in the back line

loud flower
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Fellow vets, i am in need of help. Which weapons are the best with Marksman Focus? I want to finish the penance

tame lodge
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I'd recommend Agripina autogun or recon 7a for the extra cleave

fleet garden
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columnus mk5 is my go

idle swallow
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Lawbringer special shot with manstopper was goofy and kinda fun while also being pretty dang effective on hordes

midnight totem
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Also frag grenades

feral granite
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i wasnt even goin off the meta stuff

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just looking for best loadout to bring for higher level missions lol

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At first, i used a chainsword plus a headhunter rifle, the semi-auto one

midnight totem
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I love my headhunters

feral granite
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They are...magical

midnight totem
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But they just don't match the sheer stopping power of some other guns

feral granite
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Vraks MkVII is the one i've been using for malice missions before i tested it on heresy

feral granite
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bolter was the other, besides PG

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but I didnt like the feel of it

midnight totem
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After the itemization

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I may seek to build my perfect vraks 3 headhunter

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Surgical. Deadly accurate, elite and manic

feral granite
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i was surprised when i took down my first mauler with the mkvii

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its decent ngl

midnight totem
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Those crit bodyshots hurt

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I run opening salvo and headhunter on my vraks 7

feral granite
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also been testing the agripinaa mk1 but havent brought it to a diff 4 mission yet

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honestly try to steer clear of infantry autoguns for the most part

midnight totem
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I love opening salvo on my vraks 7

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Slightly delay on firing and it activates on every shot

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Practically a permanent boost with good trigger discipline

feral granite
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got voices of command on my main, for the extra toughness boost

loud flower
candid agate
loud flower
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Oh shit

candid agate
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yeah it seems less daunting now doesnt it?

orchid hemlock
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I keep getting this even though I have no penances

loud flower
grand perch
candid agate
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hadron has blessed me (original blessing was falter)

delicate hornet
austere mica
delicate hornet
austere mica
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spam alt shells with Deadshot while adsing for near 100% crit chance and infinite cleave

delicate hornet
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crabwalking is a meme way of finishing the penance and i wouldnt recommend it

austere mica
gilded wraith
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Does Onslaught have a significant impact on boss damage? I'm a little shaky on Unyielding armor type. Would it be worth brittling a boss with a columnus before swapping to melee?

pseudo fiber
gilded wraith
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Melee will be the Rashad. I'm looking at a build similar to the one below. I team with another vet that runs Survivalist, Shredder, Shout to put things into perspective. I would be anti armor primarily:

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@formal lake

candid agate
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is there a way to reduce darktide crashing or is it fatsharks shitty coding?

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games crashed like 4 times today

gilded wraith
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I'm pretty good at cycling to melee, not perfect.

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Yeah, I think I swap enough to get some value out of weapon specialist, probably not enough for Agile.

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Oh, other vet also runs focus target.

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Thanks! I'll give that some maelstrom runs tonight.

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I've got a plasma build that has a good win rate, but it puts a bit of an ammo crunch on the party that limits a psyker that goes gun psyker on occasion.

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So I wanted to branch out and had a decent columnus.

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I appreciate the help!

tawny badger
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Yall got any build advice for the cadia mk xiiig chainsword?

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I got this one

lean light
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Veterans how do we feel about the specialist weapon thingy that buffs you when you swap weapons

odd sparrow
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Its good although definitely leans more into the melee part than the ranged portion

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Ideal for zarona revolver

faint beacon
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It’s scaring you into thinking that I’d say it’s optimal to swap between them frequently, bare minimum token amount needed for 100% crits on Ranged is 3 melee kills

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Anything above is more bonus fire rate

muted knot
muted knot
odd sparrow
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Also the talent that gives 20% toughness on swap is huge

muted knot
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But on this one you dont have the necessary cleave to Trigger SS or Rampage

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You want some other Form of +cleave

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Usually thats wrath

tawny badger
muted knot
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Well you dont actually Take all the nodes Most of the time

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I Always Run 2 i think

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Dont know what they are specifically

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Heavy hitter tho KEKW_ogryn

odd sparrow
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Using it is also pretty involved so i feel its fair

unique orchid
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Ive been warming up to the Cutthroat thanks to Personality Scourge, but I kinda wish the male one was a bit less an ass

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Yeah

lean light
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Everyone else has no idea what it's like to have their planet blow up and it's your JOB to constantly remind them and whinge

unique orchid
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Fair enough I guess

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Didnt realize Cadians had such a stick up their ass, even with Cadia gone I feel like they were rather similar before the crusade

idle swallow
#

DEBT ACKNOWLEDGED

unique orchid
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I would switch back to professional but everyone is the professional, Loose Cannon suffered from overuse and you barely hear them nowadays

tawny badger
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a cadian that doesn't whine about cadia being blown up 12085982930193 times per mission isn't a true cadian

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also female loose cannon clears every other vet voice pack

lean light
tawny badger
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bro got sent to The Fog

lean light
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Feel bad when wearing non penance or cadian uniform

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Like I love the steel legion and death korps but then they yell "FOR CADIA!"

last parcel
#

using personality scourge every time you change outfits chadgryn

unique orchid
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I kinda wish we got a steel legionnaire or something, a vostroyan or Valhallan Ice Warrior

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Something less Bri'ish KEKW_ogryn

austere mica
#

We do have steel legion

lean light
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As a personality I think they mean

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Would love to see that

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"You know what would make this mission a lot easier? A karkin leman russ"

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"You've said that 4 times already"

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And GOD imagine a krieger

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The self loathing. The unworthiness. The depression. Deliciousm

uncut pebble
#

I would change from loose cannon to krieger so fast you wouldn't even be able to see me in Kral's office.

lean light
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And 0 shovel jokes or ill fucking blow my brains out with a boltgun

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And omfg imagine an ex commisar.

uncut pebble
#

"If I were allowed to, I'd kill you for such cowardice" as a revive line.

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If there were a Catachan personality, I'd imagine they'd have some neat interactions with an ex commissar personality.

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"We used to frag officers for saying stuff like that."

lean light
uncut pebble
#

Yeah, the krieger, too.

lean light
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"You better not run off again like last time" "No promises are made commisar."

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Really posh twat too.

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Recieved pronounciation like that one female zealot

uncut pebble
#

FEAR ENSURES LOYALTY

shadow aurora
#

I'm can imagine the ex commissar being a combination of agitator saltzpyre and cutthroat

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Amazing

uncut pebble
#

They'd need to get the old DOW commissar voice actor to do the lines, if he's still alive.

lean light
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Ex commisar with voice of command and a pistol sword combo

shadow aurora
#

Too bad we'll probably never get new personalities

lean light
#

Yes

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We are lucky we even got personalities

umbral scaffold
#

We ain’t getting new shit!

shadow aurora
lean light
#

The only thing I need is a meltagun and I'll finally have finished darktide

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It's been 2 years fatshark

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Give me my fuckin melta

shadow aurora
#

I imagine next big weapon update will include it

lean light
#

Yey

uncut pebble
#

The guy who voiced the commissar in the dow games is still kicking.

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One Richard Newman, 77 years old.

unique orchid
#

"You honor me"

uncut pebble
#

Oh, imagine if we got the volatility that is the dow psyker voice for a psyker personality.

#

MY MIND FEARS A GREAT PAIN

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DO YOU KNOW... WHAT YOU ASK..?

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It would be so cool...

unique orchid
#

Oggy rubs off on 'em

lean light
#

I can't type and thank my ogryns personally

oblique totem
#

Ogryns are the good guys of the setting

uncut pebble
#

Can console players even see chat?

lean light
#

We can see but we can't speak

last parcel
#

the dutchie got sent to brazil too Sitgryn

umbral scaffold
#

We will get you to a hospital sir

lean light
#

Get him a medicae station

heavy rover
#

I thought it was just me. 9/10 times, the ogryn player is the nicest, salt of the earth, in-character player you'd gladly fight alongside till the end. But the 1/10 times, so toxic even Nurgle would stay way

orchid hemlock
#

which PS do yall prefer?

last parcel
#

i only played on playstation 1 and 2

orchid hemlock
#

cool

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PS2 best console ever made change my mind 😤

heavy rover
#

PS2 is the goat

unique orchid
#

That is just the dichotomy of friendly characters

midnight mesa
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Zealots mostly rush in and then get shocked when the consequences of blindly rushing in come to them

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Ogyrns are either really nice or really mean. No inbetween

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Psykers are fucking insane. I have seen some serious clutches by them.

Unfortunately they're also made out of glass and can suddenly die just as easily.

Usually the person who dies first for me is usually a Psyker tbh. ||Or me||

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And the Veterans are just normal usually

unique orchid
#

Mild or soft-spoken healing support? The players who use em will say things your Great Grandfather would shudder hearing

unique orchid
#

Also something ive noticed is that like 3 out of 5 pub psykers WILL explode at least once per mission

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Its kinda funny, lore accurate Guardsman experience KEKW_ogryn

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Also i notice a lot of pub veterans dying quickly once they get enemies in melee range, there is a lot of variance in Vet but it somewhat balances out into a competent average

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I guess I can say the same for every class, though you forgot to mention the Ogryn either get lost halfway through the map or take point the whole mission, absorbing no less than a third of my lasgun shots KEKW_ogryn

fossil basalt
unique orchid
#

Hit mass does not change my field of vision through 700 pounds of ogryn

radiant chasm
#

(it's me, i'm that pskyer)

somber axle
#

I've only ever had one Ogryn be mean to me and tbh I 100% deserved being called a dumbass LOL

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Everyone else has been mostly nice

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There has been one really WEIRD Ogryn but he wasn't mean

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Toxic players feel sorta rare but I think they've been mostly Vets

unique orchid
#

Or zealots

somber axle
#

I can't really think of any toxic Zealots I've run into other than the one weirdo who would spawn in, speed run to the nearest Daemonhost, aggro it and disconnect to force it to attack another player

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But like we just collectively killed the Daemonhost and then when he reconnected we just kicked him

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No swearing or slurs in chat just gone

unique orchid
#

I agree there isnt much vocal toxicity

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The rare "bro you threw uninstall" but thats about it

inland orchid
somber axle
#

Usually people just leave if they get mad enough at a match

midnight mesa
#

And then walk backwards

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back to the entrance

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Despite the level requiring you to go the opposite way

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He basically walked back to the Valkyrie

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and I followed him because I thought there was some secret

#

But no. He was just confused

somber axle
midnight mesa
#

He did save my ass when we actually started fighting tho

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So y'know

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Also tbf I was also a dumbass for following him despite knowing that it's also the wrong way

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It was Damnation btw

unique orchid
#

Lore accurate oggy KEKW_ogryn

inland orchid
midnight mesa
#

Tbh I would want disconnects to count as deaths

#

But at the same time I have disconnected before

somber axle
#

Some squads just go feral for hunting a Daemonhost and I love it when they do LOL

midnight mesa
#

and reconnected to games

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Because my wifi just suddenly had a heart palpation or something

midnight mesa
#

Like just went up and smack them

inland orchid
midnight mesa
#

I actually tried to help him but he obviously got downed

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and then sucked

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And I was like

somber axle
midnight mesa
#

"oh ok"

inland orchid
#

shotgun spread kept gettin it out of the mumbling state

midnight mesa
#

to said daemonhost

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I did actually try to help him tho

somber axle
midnight mesa
#

Mainly by shooting the host

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true

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I mean ig you can kill a Daemonhost if it's like

#

in a troublesome area

#

Tbh I have had moments where I accidentally shot a daemonhost

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and then had them aggro and kill me

somber axle
#

Some people bring strong boss killing builds in and know they can kill a Daemonhost well with it

oblique totem
elder fiber
#

or in the right area you can just aggro dh and scream at it so hard it falls off a cliff

unique orchid
#

I still believe the funniest way to do it is the 8 krak grenades into the torso strategy

#

FWEE
FWEE
FWEE
FWEE
FWEE
BOOM
FWEE
BOOM
FWEE
BOOM

inland orchid
#

dwarf pfp threw me off i thought he was saying the bardin countdown KEKW_ogryn

unique orchid
uncut pebble
#

What level should I be to start trying to roll manstopper?

#

Leveling a new vet for that sole purpose.

#

Oh nevermind I have to be level 22 to even pull it.

last parcel
#

19 psyker Guarded

unique orchid
#

Also youll prob just get it with unlock and loaded

shadow aurora
#

Go outside

#

Enjoy nature

unique orchid
uncut pebble
#

Nah.

shadow aurora
#

Be with your family

uncut pebble
#

Grass isn't real.

#

Really, though, I actually forgot the item update was gonna be a thing...

last parcel
karmic blade
#

Y’all know why I can’t find players?

last parcel
karmic blade
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lean light
#

Shoot them with your bolt pistol brother

last parcel
arctic rampart
unique orchid
karmic blade
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midnight totem
#

I wish we could actually select which servers we connect to

#

or at least try to put everybody on the same strike team into the same morningstar instance

marble mantle
gritty furnace
#

I want to murder some players for actively getting upset at new players when they don't know what to do

#

I kinda wanna post the clip here but it doesn't really have enough context to it

#

But this lvl 30 zealot brought their ogryn friend to this heresy mission
I myself veteran brought a lvl 12 ogryn friend who had been only playing for a few hours total now

faint beacon
#

If it was Damnation I would semi-get the frustration but its the stepping stone to Damnation aka Heresy

#

so yeah Zealot is being a bit unhinged

gritty furnace
#

Okay but this zealot goes down to a hoard of gunners and flames, which I got pushed away from cause it was a fresh hoard of bs

#

My ogryn is literally holding down shield unaware of this zealot who goes down at their feet cause of the absolute torrent of gunners

#

Only when they die from bleeding out do they say anything in voice chat asking why didn't they pick them up

#

I wish I clipped it cause it was so hectic I barely noticed they went down at first

marble mantle
#

First of all, you don’t pick up until it’s safe to do so. So, they shouldn’t have gone down in the first place if they wanna have an attitude. Dead ppl don’t talk.

Second, it’s a crime to full plant the ogryn shield.

gritty furnace
#

Yeah I'm tryna teach my friend atm to not plant the shield as much

marble mantle
#

Send them this

gritty furnace
#

Heh

marble mantle
#

The same rules for the runts apply to us big folk too, we’re just a bigger target

faint beacon
#

Zealot players are truly impeccable at

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running into swaves of specials

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and dying immediately

gritty furnace
#

But yeah I had a shouting match at this zealot player cause he just kept giving them so much flak for no reason

feral granite
#

Is damnation just heresy on steroids?

faint beacon
marble mantle
feral granite
#

Havent been able to jump up yet. Been stuck on heresy, trying to get a feel for it.

gritty furnace
#

Dude was running off so often they literally left their friend behind to get downed and left me with a hoard from behind

#

That I do have clipped

faint beacon
#

@feral granite Basically Damnation is same amount of wounds its just everything hits way fucking harder and has slightly more health, but the Damnation+ Difficulties are literally just modifiers stacked on Damnation

HISTG - Hi Intense (Double Hordes and Spawns of Trash) Shock Troop Guantlet (Double Elites and Specials iirc)

idle swallow
marble mantle
#

Also I know it won’t solve all the problems but just so everyone knows

#

It’s horde

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Not hoard

feral granite
#

Lmao. Well, one day then.

faint beacon
#

But damnation you seriously have to get yourself into a groove of dodging

#

adjust to heresy

#

when you feel like Heresy is easy

#

bump up

iron marten
#

don't forget that damnation low int exists

faint beacon
#

True

iron marten
#

so if you want to get a feel for it, do that as well

feral granite
#

I just struggle on staying with one loadout

faint beacon
#

Test Damnation Low Int as well if you really want a feel for how it is without it being nuts

#

oh yeah forgot to state Max spawns on Damnation

vagrant dagger
#

I need

faint beacon
#

so Damnation minus additional modifiers will be as chaotic as it gets

frank basin
#

RAAAGH

faint beacon
#

holy fucking shit

gritty furnace
#

Behold massive clip

faint beacon
#

If they had a Steel Legion one I'd actually heavily consider

gritty furnace
#

When it sends

feral granite
faint beacon
#

Honestly Kilgren what type of build are you after exactly

#

cause i could toss you something to get adjusted into Damnation

#

cause Builds do help massively with Diff

iron marten
#

^^^

feral granite
last parcel
#

warhammer.jpg

frank basin
#

Do people ask difficulty 6?

last parcel
#

yes

gritty furnace
iron marten
#

I balance my kits on hi5stg

faint beacon
#

yeah

#

thats all them

iron marten
#

stupidest kit I have is full on glass cannon, taking every damage node for ranged, so I can hunt down DHs with a red/blue stimm lol

faint beacon
#

If you like being alone you either have to have the mechanical skill to work by yourself to carry yourself

#

or

#

fucking die

feral granite
faint beacon
#

I am a massive Plasma Gun hater

gritty furnace
#

Oleg was my ogryn the fact they left their friend they were carrying is the most insane part

faint beacon
#

but I can hook you up with a good chunk of like stock infantry weapons lmao

frank basin
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faint beacon
feral granite
#

Trying to get variants of the primaries w/ better base damage

gritty furnace
faint beacon
#

What level are you if i mind asking @feral granite

feral granite
#

Best i got on infantry ag was 97 base damage

#

Maxed out at 30

faint beacon
#

okay good

#

we can get you good shit if you're lucky then

#

So, out of all the wacky weapons in Brunts Armory which ones interest you

gritty furnace
#

We had already been doing heresy before hand as well with lvl 12-18s so this zealot was just being an ass for no reason

feral granite
#

Actually wait.

faint beacon
#

I was about to say if it was Damnation

#

man you really threw him straight into the fire didn't you

#

lmao

feral granite
#

No it wasnt the infantry ag, it was the recon las with 97 base

gritty furnace
#

Hey they wanted xp fast

feral granite
#

Was testing something

faint beacon
#

It is the best way to do

gritty furnace
#

If they can hold their own weight a bit thats fine by me

faint beacon
#

I guess we should boil it down to this

feral granite
#

Ima have to check my weapon stats in a min

faint beacon
#

do you want to click on heads, delete specials, or have a good Jack of all trades/Horde Clear gun

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radiant chasm
#

the base damage range is the same between each identical mark/variant,

faint beacon
#

Here I'll pull up something as an example

radiant chasm
#

what matters most is having your damage score* and seeing how that scales from 0-80% when you inspect the weapon

faint beacon
#

@feral granite In here we tend to discuss a weapons modifier stats instead of their actual damage

#

it'll give you more information instead of just

#

it deals 200 damage

feral granite
#

Ah, yeah i was just looking at per shot

#

But mine are somewhat in that same area

faint beacon
#

get yourself used to that its far more important to look there

faint beacon
feral granite
#

Lets say a jack of all trades. I will not however use a boltgun ever again

faint beacon
#

Boltgun is an Accustomed taste

#

I will give you a heads up the Bolt Pistol has a very funny

#

very very funny

#

synergy

#

But anyways Braceds, Infantry Auto Guns, and Recons

#

I would say the best to use of the two for Veteran would be the IAGs or Recons

#

pick your poison we'll go from there

faint beacon
#

Also for context this is what it is

feral granite
#

I'll mainly use a iag, rarely a recon.

faint beacon
#

if you get lethal proximity as a blessing it effects your grenades, effectively making you a grenadier

faint beacon
#

Agri is the heavy hitter, slow fire variant with Cleave
Graia is a good all rounder
Columnus is like an SMG, high ROF and Recoil but it shreds everything

feral granite
#

Got Terrifying Barrage and Raking Fire Blessing. 73% damage, 79% stopping power, +8% ranged damage to elites, 5% increased ranged crit strike chance. Agripinaa Mk I iag

faint beacon
#

You

#

might be cooking there

feral granite
#

It performs moderately well in some cases

faint beacon
#

could you send a Screenshot of it

#

if you can

last parcel
#

grey name

faint beacon
#

You're right

#

Im so used to people not being grey named

#

DM me it

feral granite
#

Sure thing.

last parcel
faint beacon
#

Cause we can totally work with this

#

raking is actually decent

#

yeah exactly

#

Dumdum over terrifying

#

and you got a solid agri

last parcel
#

terrifying effectively does nothing atm

faint beacon
#

They REALLY

#

need to rework

#

that damn thing

#

Honestly imo

last parcel
#

yeah

faint beacon
#

They should rework it to being what it does already

#

and increased damage on suppressed enemies

#

So you can do a nutty combo with the increased suppression talent on veteran

last parcel
#

alternative powderburn chadgryn

faint beacon
#

TRUE

#

lmao

#

They should probably give terrifying a more effective Suppress over like

#

idk man

feral granite
#

also, cant switch it out as i think i dont have it unlocked yet

faint beacon
#

yeah unfortunate news

#

we need to roll you another one

#

But you have the right idea on what you need

last parcel
#

aw fuck it was locked 💀

faint beacon
#

So your Dump stats on IAGs

#

are Stability and Mobility iirc

#

right?

#

I know Mobility is a yes

#

Dump Stat = make them low, they're not impactful

feral granite
#

do i just go to the armory and buy a bunch of those rifles then?

faint beacon
#

Basically yes

#

pray Brunt blesses you

#

And seeing this

feral granite
#

well im not saving the gold for any reason

faint beacon
#

You should probably grind out Plasteel

#

and just conscencrate even shitty IAGS you get

#

for the blessings

feral granite
#

lemme send you my chainsword stuff too

faint beacon
#

go ahead

last parcel
#

you got promoted to australian

faint beacon
#

@feral granite You've been blessed with actually posting shit in here now

#

Red name

feral granite
#

ah

#

well alright

faint beacon
#

Anyways here's my GIAG, the blessing combo is with a Talent that lets you do this

feral granite
#

seems locked

faint beacon
#

Okay okay

#

Thats

#

Actually okay

last parcel
#

native wrath leggo

faint beacon
#

Its not the best but it works

#

Native Wrath you've been saved

#

Mk13g Wrath is literally what you need for it to be good

#

like at all

#

So you have a solid Melee

#

we should probably toss him a build to use in the meantime so he can get better Mats in Damnation

#

yeah heads up damnation is the best way to get materials

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unique orchid
#

I currently run the m7a recon (slow one) with the standard shovel

faint beacon
#

Alright I'll cook something stupid up

unique orchid
#

S'good with deadshot and exe

faint beacon
#

@feral granite I have one question for you, does running out of ammo bother you at all

#

and which keystone on Veteran do you like the most

#

The purple ones at the bottom

feral granite
faint beacon
#

i say more so in the sense of do you like being able to have ammo every so often

#

Survivalist Aura etc

feral granite
#

as for those, i havent unlocked them yet on this character

unique orchid
#

Luv me survvie aura

last parcel
#

and you will have enough points since you’re level 30

feral granite
#

ah

unique orchid
#

If youre still playing in like, an hour or two Kil i'd be happy to help out and play w ye

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faint beacon
#

But yeah more so curious if you want to have the convience of Supplying yourself and your team with ammo, or another aura buff that will help

spark helm
#

Alright. Been a while. What's hype?

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spark helm
#

Vet baybee. Is my favorite.

Have people finally abandoned middle tree safety for once?

faint beacon
spark helm
#

Oh people finally stopped being afraid of wep spec. Good.

faint beacon
#

WS is literally the best one now KEKW_ogryn

#

I dont think they understood that 3 ranged tokens is all you need anymore is bonus

spark helm
#

Did it get a buff/bug fixes (if it needed any) or was it more of a people figuring it out.

faint beacon
#

Huh

#

AND ITS STILL GOOD

#

Fucking hell I never noticed

spark helm
#

I'm guessing certain perk combos are still the same big names.

#

Err blessings.

faint beacon
#

like for weapons?

#

oh blessings

#

yeah same old with some weapons

#

Dont listen to the system

#

do BM + HT Taxe

elder fiber
#

taxe better on vet than other classes tbh

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faint beacon
#

🤫

spark helm
#

That's fine. Been playing a lot of hd2 and I made room for other stuff around the time I stopped playing dt. Was around the time twins got their full boss fights

faint beacon
#

🧏‍♂️

#

Fuck so you've been playing since the rise and fall then

#

of HD2 that is

#

wait you missed out on Bolt Pistol, Shock Mauls, Pickaxes, and DB Shotgun

spark helm
#

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily call it falling.

#

Shock mauls?

#

What's them does?

faint beacon
#

yeah this wacky thing

#

its good for Crowd Control

#

till a boss or ogryn pulls up

#

and then its bad

#

lmao

spark helm
#

Vet gets those?

faint beacon
#

Vet, Witch, and Priest to be precise

#

Ogryn got Pickaxes

spark helm
#

Are there any new mission modifiers?

faint beacon
#

Pox Gas

unique orchid
#

I use a SI-Muni shovel and either the Middle speed ILas or the slow recon

faint beacon
#

you know the twins boss fight

spark helm
#

Yeah

faint beacon
#

where the room fills with Gas

spark helm
#

It's just that but random or something?

faint beacon
#

yeah that except its like the entire map every 15 seconds

#

its slow chipping

#

its not terrible

#

but my god the buffs it does to the enemies

spark helm
#

I'm a freak that likes lights out so it's all good.

faint beacon
#

@spark helm This idiot also got added

#

Dreg Tox Bomber

#

He is Kill on Sight priority one

#

he can very well cause domino chains cause he buffs enemies and hurts you

spark helm
#

Neat. How fast is the point of failure on aurics if they can't be dealt with?

faint beacon
#

VERY QUICK

muted gorge
faint beacon
#

There's a huge horde of specials

#

and he tosses a Death's head nade into them

#

if you aren't ready they will fucking rip you in half

spark helm
#

I'm no auric 5 purist or anything but that's where my vet and zealot were at equipment and experience wise

unique orchid
#

Thankfully he isnt very tough and does NOT shut the hell up KEKW_ogryn

faint beacon
#

Oh he's loud and annoying

spark helm
#

Cool. Good to know.

We got new bosses by any chance?

faint beacon
#

He's also a pussy!

muted gorge
#

i dont think ive ever not one shot him

faint beacon
#

He runs away, and plays keep away so you'll always see him in the distance

#

he's all unarmored

#

so its really easy to kill him

#

1k HP

#

On damantion

spark helm
#

I enjoy my lasgun builds a lot.

faint beacon
#

Honestly

#

Take a listen

spark helm
#

...did smokes get buffed? :^)

faint beacon
#

I suggest it if you're getting back in so you know he spawned

unique orchid
#

WE... ARE THE TROO-LEE BLESSED

faint beacon
#

They dont do damage but holy shit are they useful

#

throw a smoke down infront of a gunner horde or run into it

#

they just go

#

Houh..

#

Where they go..

spark helm
faint beacon
#

Change in behavior

#

and now people have opened to them

#

I will warn you

spark helm
#

Hohum? We talking like aggro break, crowd control, what?

faint beacon
#

Mutants, Trappers (Have to point blank net you), and Poxbursters Still see you in smoke

#

Aggro break on ranged

oblique totem
#

What's up, gamers?

faint beacon
#

enemies drop shooting and engage in melee

spark helm
#

Neat.

faint beacon
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It literally turns snipers off

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Snipers just give up when you're in smoke lmao

spark helm
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Yeah nah, I'm in here.

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It begins.

faint beacon
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My favorite combo has to be Grenade tinkerer with Grenade regen

unique orchid
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Tox bomber nades need a bit less area of effect in my opinion, but otherwise theyre about perfect in terms of irritating little bastards kek

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you literally have a 30 second smoke grenade

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that comes back every minute

blissful idol
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ive got a 377 grey plasma gun but the damage is 61%
is it something i should keep?

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its so damn dumb and I love it

spark helm
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That's good, that's real real good. Yeeeah. Alright. I'm packing a bowl and diving in soon.

faint beacon
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I could toss you a build or well

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cook up one

woeful ibex
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Smokes are good

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it helps break SCAB GUNNAH LOS

faint beacon
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GET THAT GRUTTING GUNNAH

blissful idol
unique orchid
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Id give it a college try at least then

spark helm
# faint beacon I could toss you a build or well

I'm open to things. I just make my own most of the time. Usually I theme it off of whatever headcanon I got for my vet.

Thinking of doing something closer to ranger vet from vt2 but this time with more feeling behind it.

blissful idol
spark helm
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I'll probably just run my ciag with uh...idk, knife or shovel. I got bored of ps a while ago even though I like it a lot.

faint beacon
unique orchid
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Run Stand-Issue Muni shovel with... fuck is it, the rending on weakspot or whatever?

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Goes hard

faint beacon
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Uncanny

spark helm
unique orchid
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Aye uncanny

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god damn the plasma gun is crazy