veteran-class

[faint beacon]

But it’s similar to Ogryn of usually running whatever you prefer of like

[humble adder]

Ah

[faint beacon]

2 Health 1 Toughness

Or

2 Toughness 1 Health

[humble adder]

I just made a bunch of health and toughness boons

[faint beacon]

If you really know what you’re doing I’d say you can get away with stamina

Stay away from wounds

That’s a bad habit curios imo

[quartz haven]

is doom barrel blessing broken?

i dont seem to be reloading 60 procent faster after unloading both barrels and killing someone

[humble adder]

What's a good melee weapon for a mostly ranged build?

[pastel yew]

literally only good on some of the recon lasguns

it's a worthless option for almost everything else

and by "good" I mean "okay"

[rancid ginkgo]

I usually go for tac axe 7

Good speed, great all rounder

[pastel yew]

powersword mk 6 if you have no melee talent comittment

its the only melee weapon in the game that is still S tier without boosts

[midnight totem]

shovel

[pastel yew]

the bonker

[faint beacon]

You either could attempt a god roll Rashad or just use a Taxe

[open oasis]

Belated reply, but probably "Plasma weapon for Zealot" for one, and much more throwable

[humble adder]

I think I have one of those, I was using the CHAINSWORD before this but I'll switch to that

[humble adder]

What weapon is the Taxe exactly?

Oh wait tactical axe

This one good?

Or do I need more finesse?

[faint beacon]

Acceptable imo but you’ll need more Finesse

[humble adder]

What stat do I not need to have high?

Is this one good enough? I lost crit bonus but more finesse

Eh? I felt lucky and I think this is pretty good, I can swap out one of the perks for flak armor and one of the blessings for the one that gives extra power on hit

[faint beacon]

Iirc Crit bonus isn’t crazy needed so I think that’s the best you’ll pull

[humble adder]

Nat

Neat

[faint beacon]

Though personally imo I’d swap all of nothing with Headtaker and Weakspot to like Flak

That or Unarmored?…

Idk kinda matters if you’re tying to kill specials more quickly or just horde clear

[humble adder]

Horde clear

The ones that get me in melee while I'm blasting elites at range

[faint beacon]

I’d say probably do Unarmored for once then? I should honestly check the guide again

If you look in pinned here

There’s a currently outdated but still useful guide on weapons for Veteran

Also get Precision Strikes the talent 30% increased weak spot damage is really damn good

[humble adder]

I will

I think I already have it on my build

[faint beacon]

I don’t recall if the 2 or 4 was light or heavy spam

But it’s literally just aim head level

[elder fiber]

2 is h spam

[humble adder]

I think it's heavy spam for crowds

[faint beacon]

Everything will die if you keep spamming

[midnight mesa]

Honestly Plasma Pistol being Zealot exclusive would make sense

Mainly because Zealot is more melee focused than say

Veteran

[umbral scaffold]

more sense to have a melta gun instead that can be shared with vet

[midnight mesa]

Like I said, it should probably have a faster deploy speed (nerf the regular plasma Gun's deploy speed).

Along with faster charge times and shots

But it should also heat up faster and be a bit more unwieldy somehow

[umbral scaffold]

nah it should just blow you up on 100 even if light tap

from a plasma vet main, cordially

[midnight mesa]

Meltagun should be like

The platonic idea of a shotgun

Basically it should be able to actually have range

[umbral scaffold]

melta gun isnt a shotgun

[midnight mesa]

Ik

But most games treat it like one

Mainly SM1

[umbral scaffold]

its a beam and usually its like 100m range on small ones

[umbral scaffold]

fun fact it isnt its a beam !!!

[midnight mesa]

Yeah I feel like if it was a beam, it's kinda encroach on the plasma gun territory

Or any potential future weapons like the Longlas

[umbral scaffold]

youre shooting hot goop from a gun

basically

[midnight mesa]

IK

Honestly maybe you could still make it a beam but somehow like

Have it stop short

Idk maybe the Rogue Trader fucked us over

[umbral scaffold]

plasma got infinite range

[midnight mesa]

Either that or have it have a long charge up time

[umbral scaffold]

this one would be the close range melee fighter's "fuck you 5 crusher wave" card

instead of the "fuck you crusher wave that just spawned 2 blocks away"

[midnight mesa]

You could have it so that the beam spreads out

Kind of like a shotgun but not really?

[umbral scaffold]

probably would hit harder but you cant kill rnaged enemies with it like snipers or gunners if youre out of range

[primal remnant]

come get your boy before I thump him

[midnight mesa]

Like you have to shoot it close for it to hit hard

But farther away and the heat kinda dissapated

[umbral scaffold]

could be a fun mechanic

[midnight mesa]

So it'd sort of spread out after a bit so you can't snipe with it

[faint beacon]

Probably should thump them if they don’t realize they should be back lining with Helbore

[midnight mesa]

Also if I have to admit one thing.

Darktide's gore system is fucking fun

The Bolter can literally Vaporize the top half of the fodder

[primal remnant]

died 3 times, and not went down, died, in the middle of enemies ahead of everyone else by himself

he had the krieg outfit on too

[faint beacon]

Like a true DKOK

[midnight mesa]

I'd imagine the Meltagun would do the same

Like you use it on a horde of poxwalkers and they all just get split in half

[faint beacon]

Run in kill as many as they can and die immediately

[midnight mesa]

Top half separated from bottom

[faint beacon]

Be as expendable as possible

[midnight mesa]

With the area that is separated being on fire

Due to the sheer heat

[umbral scaffold]

blood's not red enough though is my only complain its not realistic (and i know i work in a worplace with lots of blood) but its not awefullly done, abit too much shine though

[primal remnant]

Also whoever said meltaguns shoot goo, you are wrong, this is misinformation. A Meltagun works by inducing a minute, sub-molecular reaction within a highly-pressurised pyrum-petrol fuel mix located within an ammunition canister, and then projecting the resulting plasma through the canister and from the weapon's barrel as a blast of incredible heat. It shoots a stream of superheated plasma, not goo.

[midnight mesa]

I mean tbf it's 40k so

[umbral scaffold]

a beam

[midnight mesa]

Also like most of the people we fight are like

[umbral scaffold]

melt things liek goo

[midnight mesa]

Cultists infected by nurgle

Or poxwalkers

Their blood probably isn't healthy anymore

[umbral scaffold]

thats fair though theyd have rotted blood

[faint beacon]

It doesn’t shoot goo but the heat from whatever it hits will very easily melt into goo mainly metals

Etc

[midnight mesa]

I mean the Poxwalkers literally bleed worms and maggots

[umbral scaffold]

but non infected enemies should be brighter but thatdbe taxing on cpu to make two kinds maybe ? idk

[midnight mesa]

Seriously the effect when you shoot them is them spewing out maggits

[primal remnant]

I figure its because they are half-rotten, being nurglies and all, so the blood is dark from age

[faint beacon]

Poxwalkers don’t have any blood anymore that’s why they’re tankier than groaners

Cultists?

Unsure

Ragers might make sense

Seeing they’re also stimmed and well mutated

[umbral scaffold]

the scab then should be the one with non-rotted blood

[faint beacon]

Yeah they recently turned traitor

[midnight mesa]

I think the only ones that have normal blood would be the regular soldiers.

And even then, god knows what they injected themselves with.

[faint beacon]

It’s why they’re not off the deep end like the dregs

[umbral scaffold]

slight inconsistancy but liek bleh its nitpicking territory

[midnight mesa]

Yeah

Then again we also take random stims

We find

In Nurgle territory

Yeah that totally won't corrupt/kill you in any way

[umbral scaffold]

so far no

[midnight mesa]

Tbf they're in the box so they're probably factory made.

But still though, a bit sussy

[umbral scaffold]

i think fatshark should add a mimic stim thats a random collor of the others that just does you corruption damamge i think thatd be funny and lore acurate from the scabs and dregs's stim operation

[faint beacon]

Me injecting the red stim into my arm and then it immediately rots and falls off

[umbral scaffold]

you know the whole carnival thing..,

[faint beacon]

Just fighting Nurgle cultists is all

[midnight mesa]

It should give you corruption but also give like powerful buffs

Due to warp magic

Ik logically the Inquisition probably would shoot you because of that

But it's a video game so fuck it

[faint beacon]

Idea, you can inspect it to make sure it’s either true or blighted

[umbral scaffold]

dmg resits but it just gave you corruption damage

[faint beacon]

Should be hints in the inspect

[umbral scaffold]

yeah !!! to make the inspect weapon action usefull

holy shit a usefull game mechanic ????

[midnight mesa]

Green infected would be Nurgle

Red infected would be Khornate

Blue infected would the Tzeentch

And Yellow infected? It's a mysterious purple color now for some reason

Wonder what God that would be

[umbral scaffold]

corruption dmg resists
corruption dmg output
corruption ability regen

and on thats speed with corruption

easy

damn i should work at fatshark im doing their own job brainstorming

[midnight mesa]

Tbf Fatshark does have good ideas

They just implement them

Slowly

[umbral scaffold]

slowly,,,

[midnight mesa]

[umbral scaffold]

yeah

[midnight mesa]

Fat sharks struggle to swim after all

[dreamy scaffold]

slowly…..

darktide was an amazing idea

took a couple years

but they did it well enough

[junior needle]

Has there been absolutely any news recently

[sudden sundial]

Is the combat knife still one of the best melees?

[lavish token]

Yes

[sudden sundial]

Which knife and what are the roll you want?

[final charm]

Catachan is quite good

[lunar sedge]

Holy damn, I now finally started to test shotguns on vet, and with deadshot Agripinna shotgun almost don't have any spread while aiming, I can proc full bore on rager for up to 25m reliably

[lavish token]

Either 60 mob if not taking uncanny, 60 pen if you are

[sudden sundial]

Mk3 or 4?

[lavish token]

Either

[sudden sundial]

What are the good traits?

[junior needle]

You mean the actual knife (combat blade) or the catachan knife (short sword)

[sudden sundial]

Knife

[midnight mortar]

No.

[austere prawn]

I only got the scoreboard mod recently but watched a Plasma Veteran do more Overkill than Damage Done. Pretty funny.

[junior needle]

Classic

[lusty sapphire]

Month long vacation. Back with absolutely minuscule patch. Dissappear as like they have another month of holidays

[lusty sapphire]

Sorry, did I say patch? It was just a hotfix

[pseudo fiber]

we're getting 2 major updates this year
That's news

[junior needle]

"Major" update

[tame lodge]

Itemization update doesn't feel like a "minor" update

[hollow turtle]

Left or right? Mind these are not the same DClaw Marks. Left can still be modified twice.

[austere mica]

Dc1 has a problem with singletarget anything

I would keep the mk4 despite its locked crit chance

[vast whale]

Is Brutal Momentum better than Sunder on the power swords?

[austere mica]

For mk6

Mk3 uses powered heavy attacks and gets more value out of sunder

[fathom kiln]

best shock maul and appropriate blessings?

need opinions, working on perfecting a good roll

[kindred vapor]

What blessings do I want on a bolt pistol and what stats?

[crimson pebble]

Surgical and puncture dmg as high as possible rest dont rlly matter to much tbh

[umbral scaffold]

Cortisol rising from playing w randoms

[last parcel]

join the cult of lethal proximity
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqGCGDCXQhNHx5O-p/d13371cs1HRz?invite=cr-MSx5NTMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[crimson pebble]

No

[last parcel]

i'll suck that pacifier right out of your mouth

[crimson pebble]

Susser

[hollow turtle]

Lights out modifier not the best time for my helbore sniper kriegsman

[kindred vapor]

I just like using it to vaporize medium specials in a single shot at closer range

btw how would I make a knife geared more towards horde clear, while retaining some of its single target? I have the bolt pistol for most single targets

(I know its not made for that but I dont care)

[kindred vapor]

the what?

[kindred vapor]

this is what I ended up with

might kinda work out with my knife build

[midnight totem]

ah, improved krak grenades

bane of increased monstrosities in lights out mode

[kindred vapor]

What do you guys think?

[crimson pebble]

Switch weakspot to maniac and point blank to surgical

And youre cooking

Stability maybe a little wonkey but its already semi scuffed as is just because of the weapon and collateral doesnt rlly stagger anything even when high i dont thjnk

Whag build are you using w it btw @kindred vapor

[kindred vapor]

I want to replace my knife with one better for horde clearing but I'm not sure how to do that

[devout dune]

Veteran master race

[dreamy scaffold]

Puncture🤤

puncture is such a tasty DoT

[crimson pebble]

This is how i run mine i can look in a min and see if i can remember how to perk it out w knife i was also trying it w infiltrate last night

[kindred vapor]

my build was more focused on melee with the bolt pistol as a backup to kill pesky specials I need dead in mixed hordes

whip it out and gone

But yeah if you can help me build w/knife that'd be cool

[crimson pebble]

Could do this @kindred vapor

The problem w bolt pistol is you always either rlly want exe stance or deadshot as crits are one of its only redeeming things

And honestly the revolver is much easier to build around for what i think youre trying to go for but i also understand bolt pistol is gamer as fuck

[kindred vapor]

I already have a revolver build

so basically just build the dagger as it already is?

and why that build specifically?

[crimson pebble]

Wdym

[uncut pebble]

Alternatively, point blank to deadly accurate and run it on weapon specialist.

[kindred vapor]

for the perks

[kindred vapor]

I am running weapon specialist rn

whats deadly accurate do?

[uncut pebble]

More damage on crits.

Weapon spec guarantees crits, so you just quickdraw after 3 kills and drop something.

So like, if youre doing mixed horde clear, you can mince 3 chaff with your melee and swap to your bolt pistol to drop a shotgunner or rager in 1 go.

[crimson pebble]

The only thing deadly accurates going to make any diff on is reapers tbh

[uncut pebble]

If they somehow manage to survive, you've got puncture to finish the job.

[crimson pebble]

Also idk thats just the two setups iv ran personally

[fathom kiln]

best shock maul?

[uncut pebble]

Indignatus has the "easier moveset," according to many users of both.

Iirc they have the same bps and everything.

I like the agni more just because of it having a more natural feeling strikedown moveset.

[kindred vapor]

Is indignatus better than the new chansword at horde clear?

what blessings for horde clear?

What would you use on a dagger to make it better against hordes?

and which dagger?

[radiant chasm]

deep breathing and realizing it's not really a horde clearing weapon at it's core. 6 is better, use PAs. executor, riposte, precog all might help but your 1st slot is always going to be uncanny just because of how much it helps vs everything that isn't unarmored or infested

more for zealot

for the duelist window

[kindred vapor]

I just enjoy it on my spec ops style build

just for funsies

[gilded wraith]

Hadron got jokes

[kindred vapor]

so which one for hordes?

[radiant chasm]

hadron hates you

[lusty sapphire]

So

I've tried the achlys combat axe in the psykanum

This is not bad

[radiant chasm]

sorry for your loss

[lusty sapphire]

It has a h1>light>light>h1 loop

Which is fine for hordes

But why are the heavies bugged?

Every once in a while it looks like the character wants to play an animation or something when chaining heavies

And they are already slow

If it was 10% faster it would be a nice contender for rashad cause of the unique moveset (well more unique tha rashad at least)

[midnight totem]

anybody up for a game?

[lusty sapphire]

Definitely, i'm just trying things to break the monotony every once in a while

[lusty sapphire]

I tried it with thrust for now

And it definitely has a place in aurics

(On zealot btw)

Mandatory at least 1 stam curio tho

[last parcel]

i used thrust bm achlys for the loner penance

[lusty sapphire]

Most elites get decapitated once you press your F key and it's so nice lol

Very very fun

I think i could run it on a ws vet with engagement and a double barrel with manstopper

[umbral scaffold]

You underestimate my stupidity

[midnight totem]

anybody up for a game?

[last parcel]

sure i'm down

[midnight totem]

alrighty

I'm in strike team 8

[final stone]

where is this stab

on the 13g

[tame lodge]

If it's 1 handed then it's not heavy nor L4

[mighty anvil]

what mods do you use to make the game look like thjat? I'm not talking about the UI, the texture's look clear

[magic trout]

What i should i change?
Has dum dum 4, maniacs 20%, 8 reload speed, Stripped Down3.
Should i change Stripped Down for headhunter or infernus?
reload speed for 5% crit or flak?

[trim steppe]

Probably Stripped Down to Headhunter, Reload to Flak

[last parcel]

yeah
i would choose headhunter and flak

[lethal idol]

i used to rock the laspistol, but it was too weak, and i wasted too much ammo, so i switched to the snubnose revolver so i could have a more powerful gun that didn't wasted ammo (i hate to run out of ammo, specially with greedy other players stealing all the ammo)

it until i can get the doom shotgun

[sinful swallow]

Try mk12 las pistol

[lethal idol]

hooo ?

[last parcel]

there's a mk 2 and a mk10, so mk12 must be dual wielding

[lethal idol]

HO MY, imagine if they brought akimbo in darktide

just got aflashback of the smg in duke nukem 3D

[midnight mesa]

Actually

Yeah that sounds fun

Imagine dual wielding recon lasguns

Would be hard as fuck to balance tho so it will never happen

But we can dream

[severe gale]

only thing dual wielded i could see would be melees and MAYBE pistols

[midnight mesa]

Theoretically I probably would make it so that you can't have a second melee slot

And also unable to throw grenades.

In exchange for dual wielding

Actually maybe the grenade thing is too far

[midnight mesa]

Honestly a part of me wants like

Dual Grenade Gauntlets for shits and giggles

[severe gale]

lmfao

[last parcel]

special attack is clapping them on both ears

[midnight mesa]

Honestly I think Dual Power Fists would be cool

Actually

Actually

Power Fist and Spiked Kunckles

The Spiked Kunckles would basically be you just

Primally beating the shit out of your enemies

[cobalt crest]

Power fist and then chain fist as a variant no?

[midnight mesa]

The Ogyrn should just have like

Dual Metal Gauntlets as a weapon.

It's not even powered or anything. It's just gauntlets with spikes on the Kunckles.

And the Ogyrn basically boxes enemies to death

But yeah Power Fist and Chain Fist would be cool for Vet and Zealot

Idk what Psyker would have but Psyker is mainly long range

...punchy wizard does sound fun tho

https://tenor.com/view/tts-i-cast-fist-gif-18135032

[cobalt crest]

Oh there was one astra militaruk commander iirc

Who had lightning claws

[severe gale]

yarrick

[cobalt crest]

No no this guy

I can't post photos

[severe gale]

lmfao

[cobalt crest]

Nvm

[severe gale]

pawesome

just send his name

[cobalt crest]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/tjo13z/who_is_this_guy_and_what_are_those_bladed_hand/

He was in

Dawn of war

The guard dlc

Iirc

[severe gale]

awesome

[cobalt crest]

Speaking of I need to play dawn of war

[frank monolith]

Do you guys know a mod that prioritises certain perks while in game, e.g the game will always force show the amount of weapon spec stack then other perks

[torpid lion]

good name lol

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xJYdeVEmc/?spm_id_from=333.999.list.card_archive.click

such a strong build

power sword mk 6 destroy everything

so broken

[meager topaz]

Good or Bad? Got the game when it was released stopped after a week. Just came back last week and read some guides.

[lusty sapphire]

Supercharge is pretty much useless

[idle pecan]

thinking of a funny build, Kantrael 9 with manstopper + flechette

weapon spec

deadshot

(basically just max crit)

[lusty sapphire]

You don't need deadshot if tou take ws

[idle pecan]

really?

damn ok

[lusty sapphire]

The mac crit you can get is 100%

What is deadshot gonna do once ws gives 100% crit?

[idle pecan]

uhhh

125% crit

trust

gonna run it witha mercy killer + uncanny knife

[lusty sapphire]

It's 3 kills for guaranteed crit with ws

[novel stone]

I made the mistake of looking at reddit

Why are people toxic about vets who use knives

Are they just overused?

[sinful swallow]

Bad taste from knife zealot

[novel stone]

Ah

[radiant chasm]

Knife does attract bad players who run away from the enemy and team, and they don’t know how to use it properly to it’s full potential

[novel stone]

Oh

So once again it's the gas passer effect, it is good just seeing someone uses it usually results in "bruh"

I stopped liking it anyway

[radiant chasm]

Yea and the pub builds

[novel stone]

Gonna stick to trusty shovel when I play lower levels

[radiant chasm]

Haymaker lacerate knife 😢 (mk3)

[novel stone]

Boowomp

No amount of toxicity can make me hate the plasma gun tho

I'm partial to the recon las rn but I still love me shiny railgun

[last parcel]

i keep forgetting to make this

[novel stone]

Same with power sword

[mighty anvil]

You know what i've realized, there isn't a single weapon I HATE in this game, thats amazing balancing.

[novel stone]

Agri revolver

checkmate

[idle pecan]

with the knife how do you use it for horde clear/ heavy killing
and with the kantrael, how do you use it to horde clear

[mighty anvil]

Kantrael Shotgun or Lasgun?

[radiant chasm]

Push attacks

[novel stone]

All melee weapons tho , I agree

There are some I don't prefer but I'm always like "yeah I could see myself using this when I'm bored"

You can make anything good

That's good game design

[radiant chasm]

On mk3 lights are your only other cleave attack so you have to lean into your Push attacks. On mk6 you can do heavies + a light combo to horde clear a bit better but using Pa is still great

[idle pecan]

shotgun

was gonna run manstopper+flechette

[heavy rover]

is there a recommend "technique" on using the rashad mk ii combat axe?

[sinful swallow]

Krourk twin stubber

[sinful swallow]

This weapon puts in crazy work with godrolls, you just spam lights at heads and become a lawnmower

The rolls are so you hit the breakpoints to oneshot trash which brutal momentum carries that to 3 more trash

[gilded wraith]

I swap to heavies on armor, left click everything else.

[heavy rover]

ah I see, thanks!

[gilded wraith]

BM + headtaker. Have to lean into your melee talents a bit.

[sinful swallow]

The payout IS insane though. Absolutely premium clear speed

[gilded wraith]

Yep. And very wrist injury friendly with the Keep Swinging app.

[torpid lion]

this is so good

[midnight mesa]

Nice

You've got the max rating

And also some banger blessings

[crimson pebble]

Iv also been stuck w locked sunder on mine and its not to bad tbh

[odd sparrow]

absolute god roll, i would swap to maniac. But stilll amazing roll

[torpid lion]

i choose unyielding because it can quickly solve the boss

[crimson pebble]

Not the psword plasma and voc the trinity of evil

[hybrid token]

soon i will fix you

soon

not 550 spit

[last parcel]

tfu tfu

[torpid lion]

waiting for itemization

[midnight mesa]

TIME TO MAKE A CAPTURE EHEHHAHAHAHSHHAEEHE

I'M GONNA GETCHA! EHEHEHEHHEHHEHHHEAHEE!

BAGGING THEM UP!

[torpid lion]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!

[sleek garden]

is there a max to cleave?

i've been trying to figure out a power sword without power cycler and right now i have slaughterer and sunder

sunder is cool but slaughterer doesn't give me the cleave i need to punch th rough a horde without powered attacks

[uncut pebble]

You're using an uncharged power sword?

[last parcel]

unpowered sword

the best

[sleek garden]

no

i am using it powered just not all the time

i cant get my teammates to stay grouped up in this match

i am a slow veteran and the ogryn is sprinting off without me

i got overwhelmed by a horde before i could toss my third grenade the trapper got me

[scarlet path]

Put Brutal Momentum IV and Slaughterer IV on it and light spam to kill everything that exists

[sleek garden]

useless ass ogryn went upstairs

[last parcel]

combat axes dont have slaughterer

[scarlet path]

Wait what perk am i thinking of brain please work

[last parcel]

headtaker

[scarlet path]

Yes thank you

Brutal Momentum IV and Headtaker IV is just peak combat axe

I got one from melk about a year ago and have kept it ever since

Wait NO it not headtaker

Decimator IV

[chrome flame]

can i ask rq whats the best power sword to go for is it the mk III or the VI, to me the mk III feels way nicer for clearing shit

[cobalt crest]

Isn't 3

The best

[scarlet path]

Mk III for horde clearing Mk VI for focusing on bosses

Imo

[scarlet path]

Depends on your playstyle but most prefer Mk III me included

[chrome flame]

mm okay ty for clearing that up for me, thats what i usually use it for us clearing. i normally use my plasma on bosses

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/plasma-gun-warhammer40k-death-korps-of-krieg-fire-power-youtube-absolutely-nothing-death-korps-of-krieg-gif-26550077

Plasma gun go brrrrrrrrr

[cobalt crest]

Also lowkey am I crazy or should power cycler just be a regular feature for the power sword and not a blessing

[chrome flame]

whats the ideal blessings and perks, i have a 365 one thats im my place holder slot rn but ill be honest i have no clue

[scarlet path]

Oh if only you knew the POWER the PSword had pre-nerf

[cobalt crest]

Power cycler and slaughter typically

[scarlet path]

Power Cycler IV used to just be the normal function of the psword

[cobalt crest]

Brutal momentum

[scarlet path]

So on default you got three charged swings

[chrome flame]

fuck i have power cycle and sunder

[scarlet path]

You still need PC nowadays

[chrome flame]

can you get higher than 3 on power cycler still?

[sleek garden]

sunder is fun you swing through 3 maulers

[scarlet path]

No, Power Cycler IV gives you 3 energiezed swings

[cobalt crest]

Bruh idk they could've just nerfed the damage or something I tried the power sword when I first unlocked it and was so confused I got only one swing

Feels so ass to play without 3 swings

[scarlet path]

You dont understand

[chrome flame]

fuck i gotta somehow get 5

[scarlet path]

Entire hordes of maulers and rager

Dead in 5 seconds

It was extremely OP

Like vets were clearing damnation below lvl 30 type shit with purple pswords

Easy

[chrome flame]

idk ive been 30 a while on vet and i would say i got my shit pretty well locked in now, but im gonna attempt some auric stuff so im trying to figure some shit out

[cobalt crest]

Eh I guess my argument matters less with the itemization update but man I'm just salty that I have to level other characters T_T

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

Leveling your other classes that arent mains is rough i agree

[cobalt crest]

But like idk if they made it a default feature and just limited the power sword to only one blessing I wouldn't complain yknow 👀

[scarlet path]

They already tried and it got nerfed into the ground as a result

[cobalt crest]

Also like the moment I reached level 12 or whatever and unlocked the power sword I was like damn I'm gonna be so cool now

And then I got only one swing

And I stood there for a good 5 minutes

Wondering why I only had one swing 😭

[scarlet path]

Also in lore i think it makes sense because we're rejects, we dont get the "good" gear

[cobalt crest]

That's fair

Kinda weird that we get power swords at all

[scarlet path]

Not until we are officcialy a part of the warband at lvl 30

Which is a good in lore reason to make you not able to get the best weapons until then

Also aren't only Space marine power swords unable to me remade in the current setting or is it all pswords?

Cause you always hear about powered weapons being relics handed down from marine to marine

But if some rejects can get their hands on some damaged ones or whatever

[cobalt crest]

Ngl I didn't even know that marine power swords existed

Not marine

Guardsmen

And I figured only people like

Lord Solar Leontis would even have one

Or like a rogue trader or some shit

[scarlet path]

I only knew cause i saw some commissar art with one holding one

[cobalt crest]

And they'd be masterwork

Also that one pic of that guardsman with lightning claws that have storm boltors attached

[scarlet path]

Okay so

Basically only mars knows how to make them still

[cobalt crest]

Makes sense

[scarlet path]

And probably rarely ever do cause expensive

[cobalt crest]

This makes sense to me

[scarlet path]

Oh wait DUH of course they know how to make power weapons because Skitarii Infiltrators exist

[torpid lion]

you can try Sunder and Brutal Momentum

charge and heavy

[scarlet path]

I meant Ruststalkers, Infiltrators have the cattle prod

[torpid lion]

thunder hammer plus

[scarlet path]

Skitarii Ruststalker my beloved

Not gonna lie when the game first came out i was hoping we would eventually get another class that was Skitarii

Because there were 5 character slots, i held out hope for a new class

[pastel yew]

mk6 can get away with cycler 3

[sleek garden]

this stupid ogryn is always off on an adventure

[pastel yew]

since all you need is two empowered swings to wombo combo crushers

[sleek garden]

why are shield ogryns always stupid

[pastel yew]

why are shield ogryns always stupid

darktide pubs in general

happens

[sleek garden]

Its just him

this maelstrom was unpleasant

nobody would help me even in the final stretch just leaving to the exit elevator

straight hallway i get grabbed by a mutie and nobody stops to shoot or anything and it tosses me into fire and gas

i stumble out and my teammates are just spamming the elvator with pings

shoot idiots

generall in aurics i get good people

sometimes its just not great

nobody would stick at the choke points and everyone ran off in their own direction

i try to stay next to people

but i built my veteran a certain way and im not speedy with a power sword or lasgun

[midnight totem]

Should've taken the speed nodes

I feel pretty damn zippy with my power sword

[uncut pebble]

Have you considered making a new build?

[scarlet path]

Pubs get so tunnel visioned with speedrunning they legit never pay attention to anything else but those buttons in them damn elevators and checkpoints

Like every time i walk into one of those elevators or checkpoint rooms there are at least TWO of them just standing on top of the button spamming e

https://tenor.com/view/casino-oldpeople-oldpeopleonslots-slots-vegas-gif-27586086

[faint beacon]

Hitting the slots

[sleek garden]

i have all five presets on different builds

i like the one i am using now where i just click heads

[somber axle]

Speedrunners are funny

Like ok you can rush to the elevator if you want but I'm getting plasteel/diamantine in this back alley and no matter how hard you try you cannot activate the elevator until the clown decides it's time to go too

[supple stag]

Mmm plasteel, delicious

[somber axle]

if someone runs off at light speed and goes down halfway across the map behind elites and a horde chances are they're probably not getting saved too

the disconnect heroes

disappointing the imperium at superhuman speeds

🫡

[scarlet path]

Speedrunning is only good when you have an entire team doing it

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-for-dinner-lets-eat-winnie-the-pooh-restaurants-near-me-gif-7850458

[muted gorge]

If i want the true imperial guardsman experience what kinda build/weapons would yall reccomend

[last parcel]

mg12 ilas and any knife

[muted gorge]

that screenshot looks like th wrong one or incomplete

[last parcel]

it is very complete

you just got drafted

fight the fucking tyranids

[muted gorge]

lol

i like what you're going for but im not doing that to my team

I wish there was a guide like the ogrynomicon but for vets

[grand perch]

play Verdun

[tame lodge]

Soon

[somber axle]

You could do something like this

Mg1a Infantry Lasgun + Mk VI Knife

I like the extra rending for an easier time shooting into Flak

Bodyshotting Maulers is awful otherwise and sometimes you don't want to walk into the 8 Maulers mingling amidst a horde to go right into melee

Knife will be the can opener for Crushers

You can swap off the MF CitA node into something else or even ignore MF entirely to go into FT + RF instead

Mg1a gets silly with Exe Stance + Marksman, For the Emperor and Close Quarters Kill Zone

and even funnier when you can maintain stacks of MF

you could also skip Shock Trooper and grab Superiority Complex instead but the Mg1a can be a little ammo thirsty if you lean into fighting at range more often for the Guardsman experience so Shock Trooper + Surv Aura offsets that a bit

you're even sorta within reach of Weapon Specialist and Trench Fighter Drill if you swap off MF, CitA and the stam regen node on the left side to go down right tree instead

customizable

[terse idol]

It's pinned

[slate hawk]

Kobold spotted

[terse idol]

Any ilas, exe, MF, and a knife

[terse idol]

Dragooooooo

[slate hawk]

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/ozone-dragostea-din-tei-numa-numa-dance-plane-gif-19252365

[terse idol]

[faint beacon]

Lizards, in my veteran chat? What heresy is this

[slate hawk]

Here's hoping for pretty good news tomorrow

I personally am a bit hopeful

[jaunty tinsel]

you can alternatively go shovel

[slate hawk]

Shovel mk3, my beloved

[terse idol]

Shovel is more krieg if I'm gonna be really specific

[jaunty tinsel]

no, shovel is standard kit for any guardsman

[terse idol]

Uh

Id argue against that and say no

[jaunty tinsel]

you'd be wrong lol

[slate hawk]

Shovel go bonk

[terse idol]

Not every engagement an average guardsmen is gonna need a shovel

[faint beacon]

I’m honestly hoping the itemization is going to really spice up what is viable

[jaunty tinsel]

yes but they'll always have one

[faint beacon]

I’d argue combat knives

[terse idol]

[faint beacon]

But like again ehhh

[terse idol]

It genuinely depends on the deployment I'm gonna say, but eh it's not too far fetched

However an ilas is more conducive of an average guardsmen than a shovel

[wise turtle]

Shovel = Combat trench tool
Axe = Combat Log Cabin tool
you tell me whats better

[last parcel]

have you heard of trenches

and foxholes

[terse idol]

Not every guardsmen regiment will make trenches

[terse idol]

Yah!

Maybe I'm wrong and I'm doubling down

[slate hawk]

The locks being removed is already huge

[jaunty tinsel]

every conventional regiment would have their guardsmen with shovels and maybe even axes since they're tools

would a regiment of deep-hive gangers who've never even seen wood before have such tools? probably not, but they're hardly conventional

[shadow urchin]

@magic trout This is the only image I could find of the power sword reskin online, so far:

(Can't share images in general)

[wise turtle]

You never know when you need to buuild a log cabin. Bring a chain axe

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah, but it isn't standardized kit

[scarlet path]

To be fair all of the cult of admonition people always have axes so im sure axes still exist in deep hives as weapons cause its just an enevitbility that humans with access to metal will eventually makes swords, axes, maces.

Im sure if you go deep enough in a hive things like guns are a luxury

[faint beacon]

I’d say knives are more common but yeah if it’s a siege regiment they would have shovels

[jaunty tinsel]

it's canon that all regiments have shovels as standardized equipment

shovels and knives, so it's your choice as a player which one to use

[terse idol]

That's faiiir

Shovels are multi purpose tools, the shovels standard guardmen probably aren't as effective as like maybe the entrenching tools kriegers use which seem to both function as last resort weapons and their entrenchment tools

[jaunty tinsel]

its very likely kriegers have stronger shovels since they're digging with them way more

[faint beacon]

I’d say the other weapons might be more of a, uncommon sight to see unless it’s a Catachan cause the devils claws are literally normal to them

Combat Axes and Tactical Axes im not too sure about

But I know the most common sight would be shovel and knives

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah, for a "humble guardsman" loadout i personally would recommend using the shovel if you want it to actually be viable

since you need a source of much-needed armor piercing that your ilas doesn't provide

[inland orchid]

to my lacking 40k brain in connection to this game i assume by this all guardsman rocking a devils claw can parry daemonhosts like ingame

[jaunty tinsel]

catachans ARE all pretty metal

[terse idol]

I imagine the devil claw also doubles as a jungle machete

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-predator-gif-18207262

[faint beacon]

It does

It’s why it’s literally one of their standard issue supplies lmao

[jaunty tinsel]

conventional regiments more or less would intend every weapon to also double as a tool except for the gun itself

[faint beacon]

They’re all fucking cool anyways

[jaunty tinsel]

unless you're a sergeant i guess

then you just get a chainsword for funsies

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-smile-point-laughing-look-at-this-guy-gif-16682774

He doesnt know

[faint beacon]

Honestly the only rare one you’d see

Would probably be

Chainsword and Power Sword

[jaunty tinsel]

you'd never see power sword in the hands of a normal guardsman

[scarlet path]

Im wondering where the tactical and combat axes are from

Like what regiments use those?

Penal legions?

[faint beacon]

Oh absolutely only commissars have Powerswords

[jaunty tinsel]

unless they're some weird crap where they deck out the entire regiment in top-tier gear like harakoni

[faint beacon]

Chainswords probably with like higher on the NCO level

Captains etc

[jaunty tinsel]

nah sergeants get access to chainswords

they're pretty much all over the place in the Imperium

[jaunty tinsel]

any regiment that conceivably deals with forests would use them, to start with

[faint beacon]

Chainaxes

[jaunty tinsel]

frankly im shocked we have chain axes in darktide period

they're that bizarre for imperial guard

[faint beacon]

That’s probably something you’d see rarely cause of it being a black sheep after the heresy

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah

[faint beacon]

Like it’s automatically a negative stigma the moment you see it

To be fair we’re rejects

[jaunty tinsel]

it's probably a thing lots of criminals have access too though

[faint beacon]

We’d use it and not care

Shock mauls honestly I’m

Not surprised about

Seeing enforcers have them

[jaunty tinsel]

i mean its basically like a baton, it's not rare but very weird for a guardsman to have one

[faint beacon]

Enforcers being deployed for missions like this I mean it’s not too far fetched but actual regiments yeah no you wouldn’t see it

Chainaxe you’d get shot for suspected heresy

[lucid hinge]

a ships armsmen would also get deployed with shock mauls

[faint beacon]

It’s honestly making me realize how we have not many different weapons but many variants of said weapons

Hell I’d like more weapons but I’m patient

It’ll eventually happen

I still desperately want Veteran to have a single barrel stubber

[jaunty tinsel]

since we have power swords i'll be out here asking for hellguns

similar fire rate to the recon lasgun but would slow you down way more, in exchange for a higher mag + damage or something

maybe even a rev up time lol

[lucid hinge]

the concept art for vet had us using a helgun

I really need it in game

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah the recon is my cope gun

until we can get hellguns

[lucid hinge]

also the melta that was apart of the icon leaks back at launch is still not in the game

[jaunty tinsel]

can you post the art?

[jaunty tinsel]

LOL

[lucid hinge]

I couldn't find the unaltered version so yeah

also the melta art

[jaunty tinsel]

wish we had flamers

[lucid hinge]

wouldn't be suprsied if vet gets the melta and zealot gets the power greatsword

as a way to shake the two up

plus like vet getting a greatsword wouldn't make too much sense

[jaunty tinsel]

yeah zealot having more diversity in melee weapons and guardsman having more diversity in ranged weapons just feels right

[midnight totem]

No >(

[magic trout]

All the equipment we got is scavenged from other strike teams and moebian army

[last parcel]

idk about 40k but in real life french sappers had axes to smash through barricades

[torpid lion]

vet's thunder hammer

[jaunty sphinx]

Must save my plasteel for the update... Must not gamble...

[last parcel]

fuck daemonhosts

[torpid lion]

Demonhost killer

[keen wolf]

so bricked

[terse idol]

Until the itemization rework

Well

The first problem was upgrading it when it has 74 mobi

[last parcel]

bro got chopped down

just a bit

[mortal horizon]

whats a functional build that kills bosses super quick on vet with knife or rashad?

i dont want to be built 100% into just doing that

but wanna give it a try

hard imo in live game to hit chaos spawn weakspots as reliably as that rashad clip, but ok cool

so you need marksmans focus?

to kill it with melee?

oh marksman, the red node

[faint beacon]

Red Node most likely

seeing its more damage with Weakspot

We usually call Marksman Focus (MF)

[frank monolith]

weapon spec with db

[mortal horizon]

ya, i realized

i dont find double barrel hits bosses that hard

these are my 2 weapon spec builds I often use

[frank monolith]

the knife is for bosses and carapace

db can work against maulers but you have to aim for the body

https://youtu.be/AZQhZFYiKfk

[mortal horizon]

left I use mostly with knife, right with rashad.
So as long as I pick up marksman, and make sure I take the other 2 red nodes I'm good? I can drop the 15% elite dmg for it and try it out

[frank monolith]

this had focus target but it will still work without it but slower

Try smokes, they are not that bad

It allows you to rush into gunners

[mortal horizon]

ya, knife is great for bosses. You said DB and i was like i dont often pull it out against bosses except just for like chip dmg sometimes

[frank monolith]

just prepop one before you run to them

[mortal horizon]

ive literally never used them, i could give them a shot

[frank monolith]

I use it to regain the weapon spec melee buff and the switching dmg buff with weapon kills

[mortal horizon]

what im trying to figure out is with those 2 builds above, whats the best point to give up to grab Marksman.
Is it justr dropping the 15% elite dmg? i feel like i need that too

[thorn lark]

The node that gives you 50% more tg on kill should work better with a BM Rashad no?

[frank monolith]

you can also just plop em on the floor if your fighting something tanky, to get rid of the gunners shooting at you chipping at your toughness

or best part you can mind control flamers into your smoke melee range same with trappers

[mortal horizon]

which one?

[frank monolith]

this is what i use I have one perk on - stamina regen delay so i can have similar stam regen as a zealot (so i can do mk6 knife heavy pa with the same timing as my zealot)

[mortal horizon]

how the hell do you reliably hit weakpoint here

i cant do it even aiming right at the face of a choas spawn standing still in meat grinder

its finnicky

[thorn lark]

Top right second row

[frank monolith]

bloop and goodluck

[thorn lark]

Just below sprint

Out for Blood

[severe gale]

whats the headshot n stealth for

?

vet is a balanced class

[thorn lark]

Also knife without Stam Regen delay hurts

[last parcel]

shoot to proc agile engagement and stealth to activate all the broken red nodes plus

[mortal horizon]

i cannot mimick this at all. whats wrong? the new hitmarkers still confuse me, am i hitting weakspot if I see double slashes but no yellow?

[idle pecan]

Will fire shotgun be good for hordes?

[idle pecan]

Was thinking man stopper+ flechette

+weap spec

Primary would be a knife

With mercy killer and uncanny

[mortal horizon]

ah ok, the new hitmarkers still confused me i hadnt played in a while and coming back recently

[frank monolith]

the knife and db im using 👀

[mortal horizon]

attempt 2 making sure agile engagement is up.
were you just getting lucky with crits? your dmg numbers being 8k a hit are insane

i feel like i have the important talents, and a well rolled rashad

not sure why im doing a fraction of y our dmg

[frank monolith]

pretty sure he is using the mark talent

[lavish token]

Riposte uncanny I sleep

[mortal horizon]

i have all these, minus doing the krak

sorry, acronyms flying over my head

whats ws

[lavish token]

Weapon specialist

[mortal horizon]

oh i need focus target?

i see it it highlighted yellow ok

so focus target, 25% unyielding on axe is wanted, what else?

Bring it Down!

thats right thats anothert 20

[severe gale]

ah

[mortal horizon]

what is my axe missing? its like BIS is it not? I guess could have over 70% finesse or dmg but figured its negligeable

so you dont have to scroll

300?!

bc of the finesse and 8% dmg missing?

i figured this axe was perfect and ill never need another what lol

damn

ya

what build do you personally use?

also, my dmg numbers on the healthbar mod dont work in the meat grinder, anyone know how to fix that?

ya my go-to is weapon specialist + DB and either rashad or knife

just is a fun but also effective build

i use plasma, revolver, and some iag's too depending on mood

but since the doom shotty came out ive been enjoying it lol

[limpid ore]

Try killing enemies once and see if the healthbar shows up when they respawn

[mortal horizon]

i feel im still not hitting the huge chunks you are, but with the changes it is a lot more

i have the auto spawning enemies off

and using creature spawner

might be why

[limpid ore]

Usually whenever I mess with menus too much the healthbars disappear till they respawn

Yeah creature spawner stuff doesn't have healthbars, haven't tried it with the healthbar mod

[slow spade]

ALL health bars on

purg psyker loaded

its time to game 😎

[inland orchid]

Hope the overlapping bars won’t be too chaotic, but knowing this games horde density

My hope ain’t gonna do much to help

[slow spade]

"is that a health bar or a longlas laser"

[atomic zephyr]

man columnus is op as fuck

i know everyone knows that but still

there was a nerf?

i didnt even notice

oh i never used it on gun psyker, sad that wouldve been funny

[mortal horizon]

@formal lake is this with red stim or nah

[atomic zephyr]

thats why i didnt notice

thing still chews up literally everything that isnt a crusher

[mortal horizon]

damn

im still hitting a lot less withoujt red stim

but its closer

i dont have 25% unyielding ont he axe tho

which may help a lot

without the 25% unyielding on axe

kinda close i guess?

that first crit i did with agile engagement up did 6.169 dmg

still took me like 14 seconds to kill him tho lol

[arctic rampart]

I used to use the blue stim on my zealot w/ fast laspistol and F up https://media.tenor.com/qmC7tgNE57QAAAAM/girl-car.gif

[mortal horizon]

OMG lol you werent kidding about the 25% unyielding being multiplicative

it made a huge difference

I alwyas knew they were good and took a lot of them, but didn't realize how crazy the scaling has gotten. vets my least played class overall

but ya, that 25% perk made a BIG difference

shit wrong clip

this one

[frank monolith]

infinite cleave but it doesnt work on carapace

https://youtu.be/-tZq6pKjeNg

[mortal horizon]

i didnt have it i could try

does Desperado make a big difference?

i feel like the finesse dmg matters on it

[terse idol]

I gotta say the music in the background is quiet enough that it sounds diegetic

Sefoni's spotify vibing in the background 😌

[mortal horizon]

im trying to figure out if playing with a boss killing vet build like this can be practical

i think you would need to drop some of the multipliers to make it a functional build

which stinks, but its cool you can do this

[terse idol]

I don't see why not

I have a bolter build exclusively for boss killing (and everything else killing..)
The rashad gets to kill everything else AND bosses so

[austere mica]

Dclaw is bossing with almost no investment

[mortal horizon]

ive been trying it on zealot and its cool, but the dmg parrying unless you build into it isnt as good as just stabbing with knife lol

[last parcel]

uwu wandom poxwawkew swipe eats the pawwie and pwaguie ogwie steppy weppies on yuwu

[austere mica]

Have you blended a daemonhost yet

[mortal horizon]

hows this?
plan is to use plasma + rashad.
Are other perks for focus target important, i never use it so dont know

[austere mica]

The 8 stacks node is typically not worth it

[mortal horizon]

no lol, been trying to learn the MKVII bc of the recent reddit post of the guy going off on it looked dope, but it doesn't click with me like some other weapons do yet

[mortal horizon]

are any of them?

[austere mica]

Toughness and stamina on tag kill

[mortal horizon]

ok cool

so like this, gonna see how it feels

just wanted to mix it up since ive been spamming weapon specialist + Double barrel

time to try a new build lol

[austere mica]

Because daemonhost attacks are fast and have minimal knockback you can just safely blend a daemonhost with parries

[mortal horizon]

i forgot to add agile engagement in that above build, but now that im looking at it something else could be good too

[austere mica]

Desperado and +25 toughness is an option

[mortal horizon]

oh ya that too

giving up 10% melee dmg and agile engagement

but could be a fair trade

[austere mica]

I don’t think you need more toughness courtesy of VoC being broke as shit

[tall torrent]

Redirect fire is pretty much always a good pick

[severe gale]

hi path

haven’t seen u in a minute

[arctic rampart]

Actually, more toughness is amazing on vet because of iron will (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/abilities/iron-will). having over 200 is really strong.

Whether you need it or not is kind of like asking if you need 0 or 3 anti gunner runes it depends on you. But it's definitely not a bad thing

[severe gale]

it’s good but also not really necessary, you already have an absurd amount of toughness, toughness gen, and tdr just by way of playing vet

[arctic rampart]

By that argument if you play perfectly you don't need a single toughness or voice of command or anything but offensive *

[severe gale]

that’s not at all what i said

i said that it’s not necessary because vet already has a shit ton of toughness, so having even more TDR, while nice, is not really super needed

[idle pecan]

Is the kanteael mk IX shotgun good to horde clear?

Was thinking of running it with man stopper and flechette

[thorn lark]

flechette is kinda a meme

[idle pecan]

Really?

💀

[thorn lark]

kant likes no respite for dmg

[idle pecan]

Is the fire dot + bleed worth it?

[thorn lark]

you can go manstopper with wp specialist but that would be quite cumbersome

you will have to reload you shell everytime

[arctic rampart]

why take mk ix meme if you can just take a plasma

[idle pecan]

That I don't mind tbh

[thorn lark]

at that point, go ws + db shotgun

[arctic rampart]

even zerona ahs good cleave

[idle pecan]

Because the plasma doesn't look cool

That shit ignites them

[thorn lark]

the kant shotgun is not a finesse weapon you want the lawby or the agri for that

[arctic rampart]

Play psyker and go sith lord or zealot and flamer if you want aoe effects

[thorn lark]

kant is mostly no respite + fullbore/ds/ff

[mortal horizon]

I run 0 now, i thought that was old meta stuff and isnt great anymore.
but tbh sometimes they still nuke me

[idle pecan]

I run 2

Because I'm a dumbass and walk into gun lines

[arctic rampart]

The Kant is rated "niche", the other 2 are "good". For kantreal shotty: Flak
Maniac
No Respite
Deathspitter
Full Bore

[mortal horizon]

the lawbringer is good?

[thorn lark]

i run 3, because i forget all the time i am not a zealot with twbs

[mortal horizon]

kantrael was always amazing until they nerfed it :/

used to be my go-to on zealot

[arctic rampart]

I think its terrible but thats what the sticky guide says

[thorn lark]

lwby is good and goes well with crits

[arctic rampart]

I just can't see myself ever taking it over like 8 other weapons.. Shotguns need buffs

[thorn lark]

you can do no respite + fb/ds/ff/scattershot/manstopper or go manstopper + scattershot

[austere prawn]

People say the combat shotguns aren't bad but I just don't see it

[thorn lark]

but rn, i feel like the db has more bang for the buck

[arctic rampart]

"Combat Shotguns are usually taken to complement weaknesses from melee weapons. They have
high enough dmg to kill most enemies in 1~2 shots & high enough stagger to stagger almost every
enemy. They all have extremely lengthy reloads due to them reloading shell by shell, but they are
more reliable at hitting long range targets than the other more dedicated close-range weapons.
Unique tech: all pellet-based weapons in Darktide use the “minimum pellet count” system, which
registers a set minimum amount of pellets’ worth of dmg if a single pellet connects with an enemy,
regardless of distance. You can noticeably reduce the real pellets’ spread & increase the “minimum
pellet count” value to deal more dmg more consistently at all ranges by aiming down sights.
Important Talents
Crucial
Precision Strikes
Superiority Complex
+5% ranged dmg (x2)
1~2 weakspot/upper body hit kill:
All elites, except Maulers & Ogryns
Great
Tactical Reload
Always Prepared
Fleeting Fire
Reduce reload downtime as much as possible.
Good Agile Engagement Reach specific breakpoints from melee kills."

[mortal horizon]

I use a lawbringer for my meme throwing knife/stealth zealot crit build with scattershot/manstoper and have infinite cleave knives and shotgun lol, the shotgun does well with the special on hordes and shooter lines

[thorn lark]

please, link the source

otherwise it's not cool

[mortal horizon]

but i havent tried it on vet

[arctic rampart]

Veteran_Guide-4.pdf sticky

top right of this channel

[thorn lark]

#veteran-class message

[arctic rampart]

Oh ok, you meant like that.

[austere prawn]

At least for veteran, I'm pretty sure most Recon Lasguns are going to hip-fire outperform Combat Shotguns.

[austere mica]

Have you seen a properly built Lawb?

[austere prawn]

I have not. Most of the time I would opt for Agrippina or Kantreal. Kantreal's Incendiary are kinda nice but Agrippina slugs feel very weak.

[austere mica]

Lawb can spam alt shells with deadshot and scattershot to pretty much guarantee crits with Manstopper

Cone of infinite cleave

[austere prawn]

That does sound interesting/amusing. I'll keep an eye out for Lawbringer in the shop though.

What does "cleave" even mean in terms of shotguns anyways? Penetration?

[tall torrent]

You’re not supposed to rely on shotgun Hipfire because of the minimum pellet count system

[umbral scaffold]

how many enemies the bulltet or weapon pass through before stoping

thats cleave

[tall torrent]

ADS just boosts ur damage

With no respite Lawbringer can 2~3 tap ragers

[jaunty tinsel]

late, but do we see diminishing returns with tdr?

[thorn lark]

VET JESUS IS HERE

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-army-les-inconnus-gif-23573307

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-of-jesus-magic-gif-5552806

[thorn lark]

twinned fish

[hollow turtle]

I've not touched Kantrael for a while. The incendiary is an aesthetic choice. Never got the right build for it.

[fervent quiver]

Best blessing for rashad caxe?

[tame lodge]

Brutal Momentum and Headtaker

[bleak dome]

is this any good?

[pseudo fiber]

yeah

[final charm]

anything with quad 75% is a good roll

[dreamy scaffold]

is Be Methodical all in one match, or does it count over multiple matches

[last parcel]

multiple

[dreamy scaffold]

oh thank the emperor

not that it would be difficult

just annoying

[teal siren]

uh

what the hell do i do with this?

I don't want to melt it but that shredder

[radiant chasm]

melt it

[teal siren]

For rampage or shred?

[radiant chasm]

get rampage 4

[teal siren]

That's what I was thinking yeah.

Thanks for quelling the voice in my mind

[red crescent]

Anyone got any solid Infiltrator Builds for Vet?

[last parcel]

i see you asked for a solid build, so instead i will give you a mentally unstable helbore grenadier build

[atomic zephyr]

dont have a specific build on hand, but try a recon lasgun with it

commandomaxxing

super fun to stealth into a good shooting position and then hose down every gunner on screen

or vraks 7 HHauto if you're in a sniping mood

[frank ether]

this upsets me

I'll play it

[last parcel]

have fun watching the swap anyamation >:3

wait

you’re red

[tame lodge]

Plush has evolved

[distant phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-im-about-to-morb-its-morbin-time-morbius-sweep-marvel-gif-25782014

[pine snow]

itemization in 1 week tm???

time to put my suffering for blessings on hold

[frank ether]

oh, I'm red

wtf

[last parcel]

bro forgot the sunscreen 💀

[somber axle]

Manstopper for Recons please

Let me put it on the VIIa

[last parcel]

everyone falls

[tame lodge]

We got man stopper at home
(Deathspitter)

[last parcel]

throw on infernus for knockoff creeping flames

[somber axle]

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-extra-credits-burn-it-down-fire-fire-cat-gif-25765038

[magic trout]

Blessings for knife horde clearing?

[orchid hemlock]

wait im confused

so every 4 seconds u get a free shot?

or is it a timer and then it cooldowns for 4 seconds?

[tame lodge]

"free" every 4 seconds

[orchid hemlock]

yeah but what does 33% less ammo mean?

[last parcel]

ilas takes 3 ammo a shot

[orchid hemlock]

like a shot?

ok so this is dogshit

🚶🏻

[tame lodge]

Had its 15 minutes of fame

[sleek garden]

gun uses like 3 ammo per shot, it'll only use 1 ammo

[orchid hemlock]

btw speaking of infantry, which of the 3 is the best one? 🤔

[sleek garden]

i think its preference

[arctic rampart]

Perks & Blessings:
Maniac
Unyielding
Uncanny Strike
Mercy Killer
Riposte
Precognition

[sleek garden]

don't they all kinda do roughly the same dps

[arctic rampart]

Precision Strikes
+10% melee dmg
+5% melee dmg
Desperado
-0.25s stamina regeneration delay is what is in the vet guide (stickied)

[last parcel]

the XII falls behind in dps

[sleek garden]

the blue lasgun shoots the fastest does the least per shot but has high mobility, you can strafe fast while aiming

[arctic rampart]

I suppose you could take 25% unarmoured too

[sleek garden]

"horde clearing" does not involve unyielding and maniac though