veteran-class

[umbral scaffold]

alright thanks

[arctic rampart]

Just using healthbars and fullauto (if using knife or similar weapon) can be massive difference and reason enough alone IMO.

No game is worth carpal tunnel and having be physically hurt. Some kids will disagree and think you are scum for using a mod. Most of those people will be on console though

[umbral scaffold]

whats carpal tunnel ?

[arctic rampart]

https://www.google.com/search?q=carpal+tunnel

[umbral scaffold]

why would you develop problemes at the hand from games ?

[arctic rampart]

E.g. you hit knife 9000 times a second with mouse button and your hand hurts from it

[umbral scaffold]

aahhhh

i see

thanks for helping me understand

[arctic rampart]

Most of it is from incorrect ergonomics like your wrist bend

[late hatch]

Esp if you have previous injuries, auto fire and keep swinging can be the diff between being able to play several games or being in pain halfway through your first

[frank basin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/437863525965365249/1276521902235451464/RDT_20240823_0020076761016760279572228.jpg?ex=66c9d52a&is=66c883aa&hm=d0b824684b1eff501b8b7971d79559cd7ee31042b79e8c8094c7c3c9248385d4&

Every veteran ever

[scarlet path]

mfw deamonhost

"Hey shitass"

Then i get lucky and both my grenade throws are doubles and the deamonhost eats 4 kraks

[fossil basalt]

Only 4?
Mfw no enhanced blitz

[hallow parcel]

Repetitive strain injuries are no joke

[lyric dock]

Why I always recommend fullauto and keep swinging. It'll help a ton

[lavish token]

ks for baby weapons that require no combos

[terse idol]

Health bars is a liittlle unnecessary

But auto fire mod is a must for knife, ilas (4?)

[grand perch]

I only use auto fire for las pistol and lasguns. Knife are getting combo'd anyway

[umbral garnet]

Well that was an interesting game.

[bleak jackal]

How to improve Kantrael Gameplay:

step 1 bind shoot on your mousewheel

[dire olive]

Step 2: realise that's dumb and setup a macro

[bleak jackal]

step 3: Return to Monkeh

[lucid hinge]

this is what shards of the emperor be doing after the shattering

[pseudo fiber]

That's new.

[mighty anvil]

Why the fuck does the the mods path have a folder call MyFavourites

[pseudo fiber]

name of the mod is my favourites

[mighty anvil]

I'm just translating the error message

[pseudo fiber]

yeah just strange I add it to my load order and I have the requirements mod is in the files and yet error
Strnage

[mighty anvil]

Does it exist? like the .mod file?

[pseudo fiber]

yup

[mighty anvil]

ahh

Its spelled wrong

[pseudo fiber]

lmfao so it is

shout outs to the queens english

[pseudo fiber]

my eternal punishment for being britishj

[mighty anvil]

This is above my expertise, but i'd try renaming the mod file to what the mod loader is looking for and see if that fixes it

[pseudo fiber]

it'll be that let me finish this level and i'll check

good spot

problem solved lmfao

[finite imp]

has there been any word on the crafting overhaul

[mighty anvil]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[pseudo fiber]

There have been words. No date

[finite imp]

Always words words words

they do this right I might actually return to darktide

[serene bough]

What is going on in the mourningstar

[finite imp]

pick that knife back up

[umbral garnet]

That was in a match

[pseudo fiber]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/itemization-rework-q-a-part-1-dev-blog/97316/
Here is a Q&A about it

[finite imp]

Thank you, brother.

[mighty anvil]

Do NOT question the Emperor

[serene bough]

True

[serene bough]

Were they a zealot

[finite imp]

i hope that just because i have a ton of soft levels i wont automatically get mastery XP

[umbral garnet]

Yes.

Lmao

[pseudo fiber]

It depends on the number of blessings you have

[finite imp]

gotcha

[pseudo fiber]

Why didn't I send this one lmao

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-the-itemization-rework-dev-blog/96314

[finite imp]

i like the UI

just need to make it dirtier

[hollow turtle]

HOLD UP

They're saying we can alter the stats soon?

[finite imp]

to a degree

yes

[hollow turtle]

Oh my lord. The grinding is coming to an end.

[finite imp]

my understanding of it is rudimentary

[finite imp]

i wouldn't be so sure

[chrome knot]

guys, which flashlight equipped gun for vet nowdays

[finite imp]

There will always be some new RNG element im sure of it

[hollow turtle]

The randomization remains in the consecration.

I'm assuming we'll still only be limited two changes in the perks+blessings

[pseudo fiber]

nope locks are gone

[hollow turtle]

All of them? Holy crap so the only real grind is the expertise mastery system they're intending

[pseudo fiber]

yup

get a good stated weapon

that's it

[hollow turtle]

This sort of change would make it so that you really only need one of each weapon unless you're making one specifically for a loadout.

[pseudo fiber]

yup]

[hollow turtle]

Lol I like this change. We can min/max how we always intended to now. Probably will see more players move to Damnation/Auric/Maelstrom.

Wonder if mastery will be shared across classes.

[pseudo fiber]

giving blessings are shared probably

you can also as mentioned switch a weapons mark

[terse idol]

Well there is still the small grind of like

Finding a weapon that has the stat distribution you want

And I guess mastery "grind" but that's just gameplay

[low pagoda]

hey i can't post images ?

[hollow turtle]

stat distribution is going to be adjustable by the looks of it.

"Players will be able to configure the weapon, change the Blessings or Perks, and increase the stats."

[faint beacon]

I will never under the distaste for mastery grind when it’s literally play the game

[terse idol]

All weapons Woll have like max potential stats

You can see how much they can max out

[hollow turtle]

Lol. Yeah, it's really in the name. "Mastery" means you used it a lot.

[terse idol]

unless they changed that aspect

[hollow turtle]

Gotta have the convict role

[faint beacon]

I’m just going to be no lifing HHAs

Seeing well

We’re getting rewards for mastery

Like skins

[pseudo fiber]

max is 380 on every wepaon

[faint beacon]

Don’t forget about that

[hollow turtle]

Lasgun IA, Helbores II/III, knives, and powerswords.

[low pagoda]

how do i get it ?

[pseudo fiber]

chat

[last parcel]

talk

[low pagoda]

huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[hollow turtle]

Talk a lot. Be an active part of the community.

[last parcel]

what do you think about lacerate e knife

[hollow turtle]

You'll acquire some server xp

[low pagoda]

is this weapon good ?

https://imgur.com/6iNrhMC

[hollow turtle]

Lol

Funny.

[low pagoda]

https://imgur.com/6iNrhMC *

[faint beacon]

Could be better

Seeing you want Shredder to be higher

But it’s still good if you don’t got anything else

[low pagoda]

oh k though shreder was the dump stat

[faint beacon]

Mobility

Mobility is a dump stat

[terse idol]

Yah

[low pagoda]

okay thanks

[terse idol]

And at least one screen shot I saw from the dev posts does seem to insinuate that
All weapons Will have rhe potential to be 380

But the maximum distribution seemingly is already present

[pseudo fiber]

I think what stats can be upgraded is random but it'll always total 380

[terse idol]

So at most you do gotta find a weapon that has the stat distribution you want

[hollow turtle]

It's the "98 to 100" and the "77/100" I'm trying to understand.

[pseudo fiber]

Literally noone knows what that is

[hollow turtle]

Yeah. The 77 is the cost of all those current perks and blessings.

[pseudo fiber]

Could be an old wip thing stuff unsure on what it means

[hollow turtle]

If you add up all the stat percentages, its 384.

[uncut pebble]

Could be that the 98/100 is the amount of stat changes you get and the rest is like the amount of times you can edit the weapon's perks and blessings?

[terse idol]

There will not be any more locks on perks and blessings

As far as we know

[uncut pebble]

I was meaning like you have a set number they can add up to.

[terse idol]

Oh based on weapon mastery?

Maybe

But blessings you gotta grow them

[uncut pebble]

We will just have to wait and see.

[hollow turtle]

The wording makes me question it. 98 to 100.

[uncut pebble]

I pray that we can just have a way to have "flawless" weapons.

[hollow turtle]

But if those percentages adding up to 384 are any indicator, it means we'll be able to go beyond the 380 base rating with mastery increases.

[uncut pebble]

Hit max mastery and hit the ceiling on every stat on your weapon, plus having the perks and blessings you want.

[hollow turtle]

☝️

[uncut pebble]

i.e. 80 in everything and t4 perks and blessings.

[hollow turtle]

Was there any expected release date for this update?

[last parcel]

"after summer"

[hollow turtle]

Lol so next year

Got it

[last parcel]

so i think december 3rd 2047

[hollow turtle]

They'll likely strategically release it after the hype/popularity for SM2 dies down.

[vast breach]

What is most meta build for veteran?

[hollow turtle]

There's a meta for us?

[primal remnant]

PRAISE EMPRAH

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-teamfortress2-teamfortress2pyro-fire-gif-13656490

[terse idol]

Why you say that though

I don't get it

😭

[last parcel]

hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

[terse idol]

Fatshark when they say they had to delay the itemization rework to end of summer when it didn't meet their expectations

500 jokes about being done never

Guys they literally just released a new map

[hollow turtle]

Lol just usual practices when game companies give an estimated timeline instead of a date.

Hell, look at Star Citizen.

[terse idol]

I mean, we had the penance update on schedule

Fatshark just stopped doing road maps because they were untenable

On the schedeul

I don't get it

[terse idol]

Star citizen just kinda

It's completely different, considering that has been in perpetual development for a decade

Crowd funded

Least it's in a playable state now

[hollow turtle]

Lol how's the saying go? Expect the worst, and you'll either not be disappointed or pleasantly surprised.

[terse idol]

We received the penance update

We got the old machine map

[hollow turtle]

Lol which I am grateful that Fatshark delivers more attenably than other game studios.

[primal remnant]

ACTUAL GOD ROLL

[hollow turtle]

Mah merbility

[primal remnant]

As long as its over 51, you're gucci

[hollow turtle]

Now let's see Paul Allen's power sword (Roll it. GIve it to Hadron)

[primal remnant]

I'm going to kill myself

[hollow turtle]

LOL

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-burn-ouch-yikes-loser-gif-4046497

[last parcel]

get pegged lmao

[faint beacon]

She pegged you bro I’m so sorry

[primal remnant]

Its ok, when the itemization rework comes out, I can change it all around to what I want

[faint beacon]

Weeps

[hollow turtle]

Lol. Almost coughted out my water.

[hollow turtle]

Hadron heard you screaming and cheering and showing all the other rejects what you got from Brunt.
Then she was like, "I'm having a bad day. So you're having a bad day."

[faint beacon]

By the Omnissiah

I will fuck this sword up Varlet

Tbf it’s semi useable if you swap wrath with PC4

[faint beacon]

I just don’t know what perk you should swap out

Prob stamina

[dry pivot]

This is what will get me to really play the game again

It has such fun gameplay but there's so much bullshit attached

[faint beacon]

Me handing Hadron a perfect 380 HHA

[primal remnant]

Also I am randomly getting injections of thousands of plasteel, what is going on

[faint beacon]

Event

[primal remnant]

How do I check that

[last parcel]

dang found some plasteel under the couch

[last parcel]

pull up the tactical overlay (tab) and cycle through it

past the contracts and pinned penances

[faint beacon]

Tab + E

Allows you to cycle

Weekly contracts

Pennants

And whatever event is going on

[primal remnant]

I have never known this

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[storm pine]

What second blessing do you take on Rashad after bromentum and how do you deal with carapace with it?

[faint beacon]

Headtaker

[last parcel]

headtaker
anti carapace with a rashad is a very complicated and delicate procedure that requires great care and practice to achieve: ||spam heavy attacks until it fuckijng dies||

[faint beacon]

Headtaker + BM

Also yeah literally

Extremely difficult combo of

Heavy

Heavy

Repeat

[storm pine]

Ah i see I was spamming the wrong attack

[faint beacon]

You’ll need Unarmored also as a perk

25% Unarmored

To hit breakpoints

With it so you’ll literally chew through hordes pathetically quick

[slow spade]

Dreg gunners too

C:

[storm pine]

So 25 flak and unarmored? Technically I have a recon lasgun to melt carapace

[umbral scaffold]

whats the max numbers on weapons ?

600 ?

[last parcel]

550

380 base

[umbral scaffold]

ah isee

and is there anything above transcendent ?

[midnight totem]

Only in your hearts

[slow spade]

"Technically"

But nothing we can get

[midnight totem]

Bots actually can get 100 items

[slow spade]

Yeah I heard that too

[midnight totem]

I don't know if the item rework will unlock higher levels

[lusty sapphire]

Doubt it

[midnight totem]

I kinda hope not, I think we're at a good power level as is

[lusty sapphire]

Higher item level requires A LOT of balancing

[midnight totem]

Being able to unlock all slots is already a big enough boon, imho

[lusty sapphire]

If we could get 100 items I genuinely believe shock troop aurics will feel like regular damnation lol

[lucid hinge]

they kind of already do

[lusty sapphire]

With the right teammates yeah

As long as they are not braindead and you bring in a broken build it's kind of a breeze

[pseudo fiber]

Which tacaxe is the good tacaxe

if any

[thick wolf]

got unlucky with unyielding perk for this poop scooper

then again I built this shovel as a joke

[terse idol]

Uhh take headtaker

With bro mentum

Take the weakpoint talent

And +carapace

Then you should have like a 3-4 shot bp for crushers

I'm leaving out alot of details but that's the basic

[thick wolf]

I know the standard shovel isn't exactly great

but it can't be that bad right?

the only thing I need to worry about when using it is bulwarks

[last parcel]

nah it's fine, it's a mk VII without the folding attack so you'll be fine

push attack spamming a crusher is something though lol

[thick wolf]

yeah hadron gave me unyielding for some reason

[last parcel]

could've been crit damage

[thick wolf]

I had to replace infested with flak

and limbsplitter to lv4 uncanny

[last parcel]

lmao get hadroned

[thick wolf]

but yeah

I'm gonna fucking worry about bulwarks since I don't have the shock maul to deal with them

[last parcel]

hit em with the bait and boop combo

[thick wolf]

imagine trying to kill a monstrosity with this trick

[primal remnant]

Well, I got SOME good fortune today

Something finally rolled Headhunter for me to steal

Not sure how I feel about the 7a vs the 6d. On the one hand, firing into hordes with the 7a is much more effective at hitting the specials tucked inside, but on the other, I am reloading a LOT more

[idle swallow]

The 2 ammo consumption per shot vs 1 is the big limiter for me

[pseudo fiber]

yay

[sullen scarab]

Is uncanny strike/Decimator the go to on shovels nowadays?

[radiant chasm]

skullcrusher is good too

[sullen scarab]

ok!

I wasn't sure if skullcrusher/decimator was the way to go, since i know uncanny strike helps a lot with stuff

[sleek garden]

skullcrusher+special attack+push attack

guaranteed stagger gives you damage stacks

i guess rending works as well

[heavy rover]

yeah it's still good. I jump between skullcrusher / decimator and uncanny strike / decimator

[chrome knot]

which flashlight equiped gun is ok-ish on vet nowdays

[heavy rover]

any of the recon lasguns

[sullen scarab]

sounds good, I was wanting to get back into shovels again lol

i guess skullcrusher is better if you already have a gun that can kill armored

[faint beacon]

Skullcrusher is if you wanna have a reliable damage source, I personally prefer Deci cause I’m a go big or go home type person with shovels

Cause you miss once with Deci it resets

[sullen scarab]

I have a shovel with Decimator locked in on it, so was wondering if running both was good haha

its pretty fun with uncanny strike though, I just spam the push attack into light attack over and over again and it seems to kill crushers

[faint beacon]

If it was a Mk7 that’s imo one of my go too shovels

SIM is still decent

Itemization update will allow you to change its Mk though so lmao

[radiant chasm]

uncanny is just too good

[sullen scarab]

yeah I've got a MK7 with thrust and uncanny on it, I like it lol

[faint beacon]

Also unsure if you know about the Special Attack landing on mutants heads will stagger them even if they’re charging

[sullen scarab]

yeah I like doing the one inch jab into their neck

LOL

[radiant chasm]

mainly for vs flaks with lights, maniacs with PAs, and carapace in general

i forgot vet shovel could get thrust

if it's a folding, you can go thrust +uncanny

[sullen scarab]

I've got a MKVII with Flak/Carapace, ThrustIII/Uncanny

with a few stacks of stuff going i can oneshot crushers

might be able to hit one shot if I take all the melee nodes lol

just waiting for the rework so I can slap thrust 4 on

[radiant chasm]

melee nodes+ focus target could do it easily i believe

[sullen scarab]

yeeee

i'll need to try

is there a difference in attack speed between the VII and the standard issue one? I feel like the standard one gets the heavy sweeps out faster

or am I just imagining things

[somber axle]

Infantry Autoguns (Columnus >>> Agripina > Graia)
Infantry Lasguns (Mg1a >= IV > XII)
Recons (All good dogs Bront)

[sullen scarab]

Recons are so fun now

[somber axle]

I can't say which Recon is better than which without breaking out the chart because they're all good and excel in different areas so it mainly comes down to personal preference/playstyle

[sullen scarab]

your breakdown of them a month or so back to me was great

[somber axle]

😄

[sullen scarab]

I still haven't tried out the MKII

i was here asking about dumdum vs infernus vs headhunter lol

[severe gale]

#veteran-class message

here u go

[somber axle]

Mk II is mostly just better ammo economy vs the other two

[severe gale]

i remembered it for u

[somber axle]

Thanks!

[severe gale]

i actually forgot that u made that

[sullen scarab]

i like the 7 for piercing through things so I can actually hit that damn netgunner that can fire their net through infested mobs.

[somber axle]

Mk II is my second favorite one to run with just because the default skin matches the Elysian cosmetics best imo

[severe gale]

i just remember linking it to that guy in gameplay help that though i was being sarcastic a while ago

[somber axle]

But Mk VId is my personal fav for playstyle and how it looks nice with the Moebian 21st Recon cosmetics

[sullen scarab]

lmao

drip > everything

I've been liking dumdum+headhunter just so I can print ammo

[somber axle]

Fashion and function are tied together. I like Marksman's Focus with the Mk II but prefer Weapon Specialist on the Mk VId

Fire rate go brrrrr

[sullen scarab]

otherwise I'm running around going I NEED MORE BOOLETS. I NEED MORE BOOLETS. I NEED MORE BOOLETS.

yes

Gonna have to roll some II's when the rework comes

[somber axle]

The Mk II is my fav for mid to long range elite/special hunting especially when they're scattered across a room and some are behind cover

VIIa is mostly just fun for pouring shots through a doorway as a horde + group of ragers try to funnel through

Or for the funny moment of wiping out lined up Shotgunners extra fast

I've been using Dum Dum + Deathspitter on the VIIa more

The extra punch is something you can feel for sure when mowing down mixed hordes to kill the elites sprinkled in

[sullen scarab]

Oh, they changed how close damage works?

I think I have a few with Deathspitter on that I might have messed up then lol

makes sense

I'll have to check if I have any DS4 ones left lol

or wait unilt the rework

[somber axle]

The tradeoff is less consistent crits sacrificing Headhunter but tbh the VIIa has a slow fire rate for fun Deadshot memes with Focus Target + Target Down

[sullen scarab]

Yeah I remember you guys telling me about the only reason why you take ibfernus is the weird interaction between dumdum and ibfernus stacks

[somber axle]

So I just use Deadshot to help Shock Trooper fun

[sullen scarab]

Yeah lmao

I only use it for ammo efficiency

I don't think I have any with 5 crit on the weapon lol

[somber axle]

Yeah it's mainly a way to force crits more consistently vs without. Some people argue 5% crit perk + 5% crit talent instead but I don't feel it is worth sacrificing the perk for Flak/Maniac/Unyielding

And even then the crit chance is so low

[sullen scarab]

Makes sense

My brain is expanding

[somber axle]

The power of the Recons grow

Soon the Lasguns will light up every corner of Atoma

[sullen scarab]

Yes

Do you guys take rending strikes and onslaught?

For recon?

Or is just onslaught needed

[somber axle]

Only Rending Strikes on the II and VIIa imo

Onslaught is only for the VId and only if you plan on using it for Crusher melting

I love Crusher melting so it's worth for me

[sullen scarab]

Yeah I like the crusher melting LOL

[somber axle]

Others may not like the talent tax

[sullen scarab]

Do you skip rending strikes if you take onslaught?

Or take it anyways

[somber axle]

I take both

[sullen scarab]

Big render....

Ok

I know what I must do mow

[faint beacon]

Rending strikes my beloved

[somber axle]

Rending Strikes is really good for all the Recons

Definitely worth grabbing if your build can afford it

[hollow turtle]

Wait, you can crusher melt with a recon?

This is news to me.

[sullen scarab]

Rending strikes seems so small but it's so good....

[somber axle]

I made a funny Marksman's Focus CitA + Rending Strikes build for doubling down on rending on the II and VIIa and discovered they can do passable DPS vs Crushers with the two 10% rending talents but it's very dependent on maintaining 10+ MF so generally isn't ready (or is lost to movement soon after) you're spraying Crushers in matches

[somber axle]

Yes but it's a talent tax heavy investment. Onslaught + Recon Mk VId and Rending Strikes burns them down really well

[sullen scarab]

It's hilarious

[somber axle]

And with Shock Trooper you burn less ammo than you might expect burning a hole through their foreheads!

The fire rate buff from SotMG to the VId made Onslaught stacking a bit faster and funnier

2.5% brittleness sounds like very little but it's 1 stack per shot up to 16 stacks for a total 40% brittleness on target

Plus the team support aspect of brittleness softening the Crusher for the whole squad

Vs Rending just being for you

If an ally is helping you burn a Crusher it falls ever faster

Flesh Tearer + Riposte and Reciprocity Knife was really, really fun for just wildly stabbing through mixed hordes without caring about Uncanny/Executor stacks

Wish they'd change Reciprocity to build stacks from ranged attacks too

Yeah it doesn't need it but it would feel so much better for ranged gameplay

It would probably be too easy to stack and maintain including ranged attack dodging though

I understand why it doesn't have it even if I wish it did

[willow badger]

ugh i hate that feeling where you just end up in a 3-4 game lose streak

[lucid hinge]

it sucks but at least it's a PvE game and not like a comp mode

[lunar temple]

tried the hard hitting recon lasguns with a full left headshot talent tree.
the thing hits for 420 per shot on shooters, slapped a modded scope and went to town with deadshot/shocktrooper/snipers focus and infernus/punishing salvo (the 3rd+4th shot damage boos). never picked up an ammo can.
Realized we dont have weapon modding because balance.

held lmb on headhigh while engaging shooters and cleared rooms without releasing lmb

[willow badger]

yeah recon las is pretty legit

[novel scarab]

anyone remember about when the recon lasguns got redone after launch?

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-old-lady-finally-its-been84years-rose-de-witt-bukater-gif-4713500

[faint beacon]

Recon Lasgun

what a rollercoaster ride of a gun

[plucky cosmos]

Anyone got a good build for executioner stance with smoke? got a few penance to complete

[austere mica]

Wait isn;t the exe stance penance there already done?

[plucky cosmos]

ah frick

[austere mica]

So its just MF right?

[last parcel]

yeah bottom right is infiltratre

[austere mica]

I have just the thing

[plucky cosmos]

Marksman, focus target and infiltrate

[austere mica]

I can get you smokes, MF, and infil

[plucky cosmos]

that would do

[austere mica]

Just waiting for my game to launch

[plucky cosmos]

i'd appreciate that

theres alot of work to be done💀

[austere mica]

Only really the blessings on the shotgun are important

Oh hell

[last parcel]

did you forget mf lol

[austere mica]

Yes

[plucky cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

thank you very much!

[austere mica]

But basically you just unload alt shells into horde while ADSing and get insane cleave crits

That are all headshot height

Low profile infiltrate supports revives or poping it to get 10 seconds of fire with your shotgun

Or interrogators and such

Smokes support your shitty shooter control

[plucky cosmos]

I'll keep that in mind, first few matches will be painful

i gotta look for a lawbringer aswell so this will be fun

[austere mica]

Manstopper only rolls from armory on level 30 characters

You need to make a level 15 vet if you want to farm it from hadron

Otherwise just keep an eye on your armory

[plucky cosmos]

thats good to know

[austere mica]

Wrong shotgun

[plucky cosmos]

omg yeah i just realized

[hollow turtle]

Lol when they figure out the VT2 Versus system, you already know they'll start looking into doing the same for DT.

[lucid hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/dokibird-confused-vtuber-nijisanji-hololive-gif-16805891220657949602

no please

[somber axle]

I'm coming for all of you

I have a net and I am going to hit you from halfway across a room

[hollow turtle]

Gonna be that chaos spawn that yeets someone off the edge.

[radiant chasm]

i want DT twitch integration

[hollow turtle]

Lol holy shit, that system was fun when I encountered it in VT2.

[radiant chasm]

Woe, crusher pack upon ye

it is what got me into tide games lol

i remember when bloodloss was stupidly broken

[heavy rover]

woe, DH upon ye

[faint beacon]

it clicked to me I played with all console players and this was genuinely the most fun I've had on Auric Damnation in a long time

[umbral scaffold]

Is dickot a default name ?

For DT

[late hatch]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

Thought i recognised someone sadge

I read it as dickrot btw

Every. Time

[lunar temple]

Dickrot
is that a nurgle or slaaneshi thing

[umbral scaffold]

Both

[last parcel]

the skin peels off to reveal the cheese

[umbral scaffold]

I saw cheese and almost typed yummy. But honestly good thing i didnt

[crimson pebble]

🧀

[lunar temple]

was it created when nurgle and slaanesh reenacted the ugly bastard hentai trope?

[austere mica]

FINALLY

[crimson pebble]

Id do cara instead of flak

[austere mica]

No

[bold bridge]

What build do you use this with?

[austere mica]

Lawb clear build with right side tree

Yes I know mercy killer is preferable

[crimson pebble]

Y no double barrel

[last parcel]

dura lex sed lex

[austere mica]

Don't have manstopper

[heavy rover]

can't wait for itemization so I can swap sprint to maniac and also unlock infernus IV. after that, chef's kiss

[last parcel]

stripped down + hit and run + duck and dive

[crude fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

3 +3 Stam all with sprint efficiency, sprint efficiency and + stam on weapon, and popping blue stims

[lunar temple]

with deadshot/shock trooper, who needs ammo pickups anyway

[normal hinge]

What's the best Recon lasgun at the moment? I've got a decent VIIa that I like, but I want to know if the VId/Mk2 outshine it

[lunar temple]

iirc the laserhose couldnt pen more than 1 target, the punchy one at least can

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-breathing-breathing-scared-garn-47-gif-12912558230688757313

[last parcel]

they all have their own strengths
#veteran-class message
but the VId and II literally outshine the VIIa because higher fire rate means more brightness 🤔

[umbral scaffold]

full 80 ?

damhn

[wicked epoch]

look at the sword i just rolled

compared to the one i got

[crimson pebble]

Why he jiggy w it

[last parcel]

is the one you started with the ugly ass default sword

[umbral scaffold]

HES BREATHING

[last parcel]

boybreathing

[wicked epoch]

no i rolled the default sword

the customized one is my usual

[last parcel]

damn

so what are you so desparately searching for that you aren't waiting for itemization

[lyric dock]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

/s

[crimson pebble]

Wonder what they could do for other mks for double barrel

[last parcel]

quadruple barrel

[lyric dock]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-revenant-super-shotgun-gif-3571276169161853871

[wicked epoch]

idk i just got bored

[lyric dock]

Grapple alt fire

[wicked epoch]

look at this insane drip

look at it

[last parcel]

why is it so girthy

[wicked epoch]

i like it

more meat

[hidden torrent]

This is what I ask anytime I look down

[crimson pebble]

Iv never seen anyone else use this skin for some reason

[lunar temple]

it looks like an oversized pen

it only needs a ball bearing on the tip

[abstract moth]

Hey guys is the max for the event 15 rounds or 12?

[pseudo fiber]

15

[abstract moth]

Gotcha thanks

[lyric dock]

15 times you "defeat" Rinda and live to tell the story

[lunar temple]

tbh i thout it would get more than her just pass us by and say hello and then sod off in a cloud of fart

[lyric dock]

She's basically a joke even if you get the worst case of her showing up in a horde

[abstract moth]

I mean they're literally the fart brothers

[lyric dock]

At least the range one was actually dangerous with the Taco bell mines

[abstract moth]

Hahaha yes

[lyric dock]

Melee is I'm gonna be in your face for the next few moments

Only thing I wish from lights out missions in general is more secondary light sources. Just enough to light up some parts of the map so that way you don't 100% depend on having your own light source or a purge psyker on the squad

[lusty sapphire]

Triggering the demonhost and then DCing must be top 3 loser behaviour in this game

[midnight totem]

Bolter is fun

[crimson pebble]

Always has been

[somber axle]

The best way to enjoy the Boltgun is to spend 5+ matches playing with the Boltpistol first

[crimson pebble]

Sad!

[somber axle]

Boltpistol is fun but wow the extra shots between reloads, higher cleave, full auto magdump and more comfy aim down sights makes the Boltgun feel so good after playing Boltpistol a bunch

[drifting timber]

got a lucius mk2 with no respite and falter, does that synergize well and make the weapon worth it? only tried the gun a few times and wasnt much of a fan

[gilded wraith]

I think Weight of Fire and Surgical are the most common picks, not certain about no respite and falter

[crimson pebble]

If they gave bolt pistol throwing knife tier cleave itd be goated

[gilded wraith]

I want lethal prox to come to bolter.

[last parcel]

falter is effectively useless on helbores. no respite also works with the bayonet, though

[gilded wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/fifth-element-milla-jovovich-leeloo-bada-boom-boom-gif-9053853716468720447

[crimson pebble]

Real

[drifting timber]

so pretty much got a good poking stick lol word

[midnight totem]

my last game

I had TWO FULL AMMOCRATES TO PLAY WITH

... and everything got krak grenaded because 3 vets on the team

[lusty sapphire]

I think no respite wouldn't be too bad with weight of fire and shout on mk2

[midnight totem]

well it was thee quickest I ever seen a chaos spawn disappear too

[lusty sapphire]

Beautiful

[soft river]

Best blessings for Mk3 shovel?

[last parcel]

it does give shotgunner/gunner bayonet breakpoints depending on your talent tree, but for shooting i don't know what it'd change since you're oneshotting most things anyways

[lusty sapphire]

Uh reapers, bulwarks I guess. Maulers maybe?

[last parcel]

uncanny strikes and thrust. thrust and +carapace damage lets the fold attack oneshot crushers

and if you're going mk3 over mk7, you're probably a folded attack lover

[idle swallow]

mk7 moveset is so gooood tho

[last parcel]

i never noticed a difference with them but i also never paid much attention

[lusty sapphire]

I shoot things till they die

[last parcel]

same

[lusty sapphire]

I love the braced agripina on zealot for that reason specifically

Firefrenzy/deathspitter into a mixed horde and all your problems go away

So funny

[somber axle]

I disliked the Brautos for a while but they're really fun

They just need a moment to click in your brain

Then the dakka feels very satisfying

I like leaning into the Graia Brauto for the extra fire rate increase when braced

the speed is addicting and there are so few ways of getting high rates of fire

[last parcel]

brautos are cinematic

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/shoota-boy-orks-firing-ork-gif-15592770

[soft river]

Im also a helbore user so with that in mind is limbsplitter worth it?

I can usually two shot crushers with Helbore

[last parcel]

limbsplitter doesn't count down if you hit something else in the middle of the cooldown, so it's only a damage boost on the first attack of the fight

you should probably take a standard/mk7 shovel instead then

they have better horde clear than mk3

[soft river]

So it wont proc if you're hitting other stuff or you have to wait 5 seconds?

[last parcel]

it'll proc on the first attack, then you have to wait 5 seconds without hitting anything else before you can proc it again

[soft river]

Yikes

Thats bad

[last parcel]

yeah i don't know why they did that

[soft river]

Untakeable blessing

As written It seemed really good

What about decimator?

I'm running that now with uncanny strikes and it seems to be decent. Unless theres something hidden about that one too

[last parcel]

it's a good choice

just don't miss or you lose all your stacks

[soft river]

Oh thats interesting

Thanks for the info

[last parcel]

np, if you're curious about any other blessings you can also check out this guide where the author went through some of the game's code https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3286161222

[primal remnant]

I'm confused, what is the objective of the event? It was at 13/15, then I completed a blackout, and its still 13/15

[last parcel]

did you do lights out on auric or did you do terror in the dark on the regular board

because it's just the terror in the dark regular missions

[primal remnant]

regular board

[last parcel]

maybe you got fatsharked

[primal remnant]

do they have to be a specific difficulty?

[last parcel]

no

[primal remnant]

huh

weird

I guess I just got fugged

[thick wolf]

til the standard shovel can just do this to a mutant

my worldview has been changed

[midnight totem]

Have you tried the pushattack?

It's a relatively powerful strike down

[thick wolf]

yes, but it doesn't surprise me as much as this

[midnight totem]

Ah

Yeah, the special attack has excellent stagger

Good against ragers too

[primal remnant]

Is Survivalist worth it with the recon 7a?

I liked it with the 6d but I'm not sure its putting in the work with the 7a

[umbral scaffold]

you'd probably stop too if some dude shoved a shit-digger in your eyes

[midnight totem]

Using the power of nurgle against nurgle?

Sounds heretical

[last parcel]

join the cult of the boop

[thick wolf]

you should've seen the custom name I inputted on this shovel

[tame lodge]

💀

[faint beacon]

This is what sold me on shovels being my favorite melee in the game, I just use Rashad more cause- it’s the fucking Rashad

[idle swallow]

I'd say finding a shovel in a sewer means it gets 1d4 toxic damage but against nurgle enemies that probably would just heal them

[thick wolf]

I feel like I'm returning to the shovel cult after using the indignatus shock maul for so long

[rose reef]

brothers

tell me the value

of the smoke grenade

[midnight totem]

lol

killed 3 snipers with one bullet

the fourth behind them chunked half my health

[rose reef]

longlas hurts makes sense

[primal remnant]

close and kill is good, and its right below it

[crimson pebble]

Its only rlly there to make up points later for certain infiltrate builds

[primal remnant]

I think the thing about the smoke grenade is that you have 2 viable places to put it: On top of your team, and on top of the enemy shooter gang.

The problem with the first is obvious, everyone has to move out of the smoke to see what they are fighting.

The problem with the second is if you're going to lob a grenade into a shooter pack, why wouldn't you just lob a frag and kill them all, instead of a smoke that just makes them move?

[rose reef]

damn i thought it would be smart to use the smoke grenade

with the perk in your helm that lets your auspex outline enemies for allies as well

and then you all gun down hordes of shooters

[tall torrent]

You’re supposed to put smoke at where u want to be

You’re not supposed to throw it directly at shooters

[primal remnant]

Really, that's your job. You aren't going to be able to get 4 guns on the shooter pack because 1: Not everyone will have the correct guns for that, and 2: If there are lots of shooters, there are probably lots of melee dudes trying to crawl up your ass too. You want your team to clear those out while you're taking shooter skulls that would pose a threat to them while they are killing the melee enemies. You are keeping thim safe, and vice versa.

[tall torrent]

People just have no idea how smokes work and it shows

[last parcel]

get fatsharked

[primal remnant]

Oh boy here we go, a Gamer Legend™️ here to show us how this thing that is universally panned is actually super good, everyone else is just dumber than them

[midnight mesa]

What would be the best perks for the Recon Lasgin

*lasgun

Bleh

[tall torrent]

That’s not what I said, and you don’t know how smokes work either

[midnight mesa]

[tall torrent]

If u think smoke is meant to be thrown at the enemy, you’re understanding it wrong and I don’t blame u for that because the game never bothered to teach u how it works

[midnight mesa]

I currently have infernus and speed loader on it

I am thinking of replacing speedloader

But with what

[primal remnant]

Headhunter for all 3, then Infernus for the 6d and Dumdum for the 7a and 2. At least, that seems to be the best to me.

[midnight mortar]

Typically you want at least Headhunter for synergy with Shocktrooper.

[tall torrent]

Smoke exists for 1 function only and it’s the concealment status

[midnight mortar]

Then either Dumdum or Infernus.

[tall torrent]

You need to be physically inside the smoke cloud to benefit

The only use case is to throw it where u want to be within 2s

[primal remnant]

And of course Flakiac for the perks

[tall torrent]

Which is usually somewhere close to u or directly on top of urself

If you’re concealed, certain enemies cannot attack you

Snipers, flamers & hounds lose tracking from concealment

[midnight mesa]

Yeah I was thinking of Flak and Infested

[primal remnant]

The problem is that with smoke grenade, exe is pretty much mandatory so you can actually see what the fuck you're shooting at, and they are on opposite sides of the tree, meaning at least 2 extra nodes just to bridge them.

[midnight mesa]

Flak for obvious

And Infested to clear hordes faster

[tall torrent]

Exe is not mandatory, u can see enemies through smoke

[last parcel]

you can also ping normally

[tall torrent]

Smoke is for melee repositioning most of the time

[midnight mesa]

No offense but what the fuck does 6d, 7a, and 2 mean

[crude fiber]

set ping to mouse wheel and let it spin

[last parcel]

those are recon lasgun versions

[midnight mesa]

Ah

[last parcel]

VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ping ping ping

[primal remnant]

Recon Lasgun MkVIIa, Recon Lasgun MkII, Recon Lasgun MkVId

[midnight mortar]

The Recon lasgun variants.

[midnight mesa]

Yeah that makes sense now

Thank you for explaining

[crude fiber]

spam pingers are some of the only people i block in this game

[midnight mesa]

I accidentally spam ping sometimes

[primal remnant]

You can't ping all the things you want to shoot at.

[tall torrent]

You can ping every elite & specialist through smoke

[crude fiber]

i mean people the literally set ping to mouse one or mouse wheel. Its annoying and distracting

[primal remnant]

Its unfortunate then that your job also entails counterfire against shooter packs, which you cannot ping

[tall torrent]

And if you’re concealed, ranged elites can’t hit u unless u walk directly into their line of fire

[midnight mesa]

Tbf it is the default placement

[tall torrent]

U can kill shooters without using a gun

Vet’s job has not been “ranged anti-shooter specialist” for a long time

[crude fiber]

i mean spinning the mouse wheel

[primal remnant]

You can kill anything without using a gun

[midnight mesa]

I h

*Oh

[crude fiber]

so it machine guns pings

[last parcel]

ping ping ping ping

[primal remnant]

Its a really good thing you edited this.

[last parcel]

i'd post more but automod gets mad

[crude fiber]

no full auto pinging in the building

[midnight mesa]

Vets job is

Uh

Kill them to death

[last parcel]

that's not full auto

[midnight mesa]

Gotta make Nurgle worshippers realize that people die when they are killed

[primal remnant]

I will disagree that vet's job is not to shoot shooters. There are so many places your team simply can't economically get to the shooters in melee, and neither can you, and unless you're running certain weapons, you have the best tools to remove them.

[tall torrent]

Vet’s job is “kill everything”

[tall torrent]

What does ur build look like

[midnight mesa]

I mean tbf

All of the classes have some type of ranged option

So they can just

Shoot them

[tall torrent]

Main ranged class rn is Psyker

[primal remnant]

I run either the recon 6d or the recon 7a, with exe and shredder to peel the horde if it gets too dense.

[tall torrent]

Veteran is 50:50 split most of the time

[tall torrent]

Have u considered melee vet

[last parcel]

who would win, 80 scab shooters or 1 psyker yelling

[primal remnant]

I have, he's called zealot, and I play that a lot too

[midnight mesa]

In the case of the Psyker

Just send deviantart pictures to the minds of those poor snipers

[crude fiber]

meh, melee vet is good but ill go play zealot or ogryn if i wanna focus on melee

[thick wolf]

it do painful when you're the only one who's killing ranged enemies

[tall torrent]

ok u do u

[last parcel]

psychological warfare by sending them visions of being pegged by hallowette

nvm i bet they'd like that

[midnight mesa]

Zealot is like 75 melee 25 ranged

Veteran is 50/50 generally

Psyker is just fully ranged tbh

Idk about the Ogyrn. I think he's another 50/50

[midnight mesa]

They're Nurgle not Slaanesh. They'd hate it

[somber axle]

But being able to quickly and efficiently wipe out ranged non-elite and ranged elite packs quick and ezpz is really fun if you build for it

[last parcel]

nah they'd love her smell

[thick wolf]

Ogryn can be ranged if the player knows how to use the ripper guns

[somber axle]

I mean from range

[primal remnant]

I am genuinely curious what melee vet build outperforms a melee focused zealot

[somber axle]

Melee build is fun and strong but not all Vet can do

[tall torrent]

Ur not gonna believe this but veteran melee outright has more damage than zealot most if not all the time

[somber axle]

You can absolutely play Headhunter Autogun or Infantry Lasgun and just go tapping shooter heads for fun on top of being able to wipe elites fast too

[tall torrent]

In fact veteran melee has been outperforming zealot melee in damage for quite a while

[somber axle]

Unironically wish they hadn't rolled back the oppressive shooter buff

[crude fiber]

if using the same weapons sure but zealot has a couple specialty melee options that id say make melee more fun

[thick wolf]

clearly zealot needs the standard shovel

[last parcel]

zealot needs serrated blade helbore

[tall torrent]

Zealot just has duellist that scales really high on some reasons with crit build

But zealot has to trade defense for damage in every build

[somber axle]

If they had released it some time after the new map it would have let people adjust to the sight lines and map layout better but the new map being constant in quickplay rotation and having very little cover + open sightlines and stuff like Smoke Grenade being unpopular made it rough for Ogryns and Zealots

[crude fiber]

vet has power sword which is silly busted but nothing as satisfying as getting those 1 shots with Thammer and eviscerators

[tall torrent]

Veteran never needs to trade defense for damage and basically just always have more damage

[primal remnant]

I am so thoroughly uninterested in raw whiteroom damage. I am interested in getting 4 people from one end of the level to the other alive. And, in my opinion, if you're going to spend your time swinging a stick around, zealot accomplishes that goal better than nearly anyone else, especially with support talents that cut into damage very little but give big plays to your team.

[tall torrent]

U don’t need a power sword to outperform zealot in melee damage

[primal remnant]

I have basically no respect for kerillians chasing green circles

[tall torrent]

I think you’re misunderstanding what veteran does

This is not white room testing

[crude fiber]

sure im just pointing out their specialty weapons. im sure rashad vet has higher damage per hit then a rashad zealot

[tall torrent]

Take example

Rashad combat axe

If zealot doesn’t go martyrdom

[thick wolf]

I would love to use the rashad

if it isn't slow

[tall torrent]

They need to use ability to 1 hit shotgunners so they can kill 4 in 1 swing

[last parcel]

i thought this said ogryn shirtless ong my brainis cooked

[tall torrent]

Which lasts for 1 hit

[crude fiber]

imagine not using martydom

[tall torrent]

Veteran gets to do that for 10 seconds

[somber axle]

Ogryns should be shirtless

[tall torrent]

Martyrdom is point tax hell

[somber axle]

Show the MUSCLE

Show the TATTOOS

[tall torrent]

You have to give up a ton of strong nodes to get martyrdom to work properly

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/hercules-in-new-york-arnold-arnold-schwarzenegger-run-jump-gif-25359826

[somber axle]

Ogryn needs no shirt to pretend bullets are stopped by the armour he wears

[crude fiber]

i must love hell or have some weird ass builds cause its my favorite way to run zealot

[somber axle]

He IS the armour

[primal remnant]

Yeah? Because its very strong itself. Its a tradeoff, one that is usually worth it

[tall torrent]

It’s fun but it’s extremely taxing on talent choices

[tall torrent]

In that case of martyrdom

Veteran still hits just as hard

[crude fiber]

could you show how youd build martydom?

[tall torrent]

On every enemy that matters

[tall torrent]

Fire grenade -> benediction -> FotF -> martyr

Depending on weapon, TWBS

[tame lodge]

[tall torrent]

That’s almost every martyr build ever

[thick wolf]

I mean what the hell am I saying

[last parcel]

[tame lodge]

I mean, it's just me drifting away from book

[crude fiber]

my preferred marty build

[tall torrent]

Yea, point tax hell

[last parcel]

you use crucis so you just love hell

[tall torrent]

Zealot’s strongest starter branch is throwing knife and martyr just doesn’t get to take that most of the time

[primal remnant]

Every tree except maybe Ogryn has point tax hell

[tall torrent]

No

[crude fiber]

meh, im satisfied with what i got. i see what your saying reaching all the over for TWBS but it doesnt bother me

[tall torrent]

It’s really just zealot having to trade defense for damage

[oblique totem]

You people need professional help

[tall torrent]

Veteran’s choice is usually “which damage nodes do I want”

[tame lodge]

[tall torrent]

Same goes for psyker

[crude fiber]

ill see the monsters there

[primal remnant]

you dropped this, king

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-16946870570312365095

[crude fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-wholesome-nice-your-awesome-gif-5380221949133326205

[jaunty tinsel]

are there any melee weapons other than the power sword that exclusively do cleaves (or "vanguards" whatever) for light attacks?

[earnest bone]

if you want a weapon that can clear hordes and elites with light attack spam:

• Rashad MK2 (Brutal Momentum/Headtaker/Flak+Maniac or Unarmoured)
• Chainsword mk13 (Rampage/Wrath/Flak/Maniac)

[sinful swallow]

Mk12 chaxe

Iirc

[earnest bone]

mk12 works too

[sinful swallow]

It's same as chsword 13 different flavor

[jaunty tinsel]

do those exclusively do cleave light attacks?

[earnest bone]

with correct blessings - yes

[jaunty tinsel]

im asking about move set

[earnest bone]

tho in case of Rashad you need to aim at heads

Its just that to compliment the moveset you need those blessings

but the answer is yes

[sinful swallow]

For move set it's gonna be chsword 13, chaxe 12, I think one of the dclaws

[jaunty tinsel]

none of the claw swords do to my knowledge

[sinful swallow]

Might be right, I think they might have random strike downs in combo

It's been a while since I've used something other than mk6 psword or my beloved Mk4 chaxe lol

[last parcel]

well even psword 6 has one at the end so it’d probably be fine

[midnight mesa]

What would a Plasma Pistol even be like in Darktide

[earnest bone]

Dclaw MK1 heavy attacks are aoe-exclusive

[midnight mesa]

Would it even have an appropriate role

[earnest bone]

but Dclaw1 is considered the worst among 3

[midnight mesa]

Because tbh the Bolt Pistol kinda feels like a lamer revolver

[sinful swallow]

A not as fat plasma gun with more reloading maybe. It deploys fast but that running speed

[jaunty tinsel]

chainsword 13 has a strikedown at the beginning, rashad axe and chain axe both have all AoE lights

[sinful swallow]

Bolt pistol shines if you don't play it like a revolver

The juice is the puncture blessing

[jaunty tinsel]

doesnt bolt pistol have a perk that adds radius to your grenades?

so its by far the best grenadier gun in the game

[midnight mesa]

Faster Reloading, Faster run speed, and faster deployment at the cost of higher heat and more reloading

Yeah that sounds good

[sinful swallow]

Close proximity, not sure that it affects your grenades but that might be fat shark spaghetti code

[jaunty tinsel]

someone mentioned here a while ago that it did

[sinful swallow]

Plasma gun already has insane deploy speed for some reason

[midnight mesa]

How do you use it

[midnight mesa]

They'll probably nerf it tbh.

At least the deploy speed

Plasma Gun is way too good over other options like the bolter

[last parcel]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqGCGDCXQhNHx5O-p/d13371cs1HRz?invite=cr-MSx5NTMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[sinful swallow]

Puncture gives you the one hit breakpoints for ammo efficiency if you're willing to let the bleed tick and move on to next target

[trim steppe]

For the zarona, how does Point Blank compare with Surgical? I've been using surgical but point blank seems great/better for pocket sniping

[midnight mesa]

MMmmm

spaghetti

[sinful swallow]

The 2nd blessing is more up to choice, you get most effectiveness from puncture + flak + maniac

[midnight mesa]

my favorite

[last parcel]

tasty swedish spaghetti

with the ikea meatballs in my mouth

[sinful swallow]

Or it might be unarmored for one of the gunners, I don't have my spreadsheet handy since I'm phone posting

[last parcel]

just like puncture assail

[last parcel]

elite is enough

[sinful swallow]

Not sure how close it is on unarmored for gunners or if +elite was good enough

[last parcel]

with superiority complex

[sinful swallow]

Thank you backup for the backup 🙂

But yeah for bolt pistol if you want to go the surgical deadly accurate route, don't. Just use boltgun instead cause you'll really feel A) the worse surgical and B) the worse handling

And that's if you're really trying to avoid zarona for some reason

[hidden torrent]

We all know you just made that up

[pine snow]

you know wh at i love

reviving my teammates every 30 seconds

and then the second i died they all just died

[sinful swallow]

[pine snow]

and i was using a new build so i wasnt optimized well at all

so i was constantly getting chipped

[sinful swallow]

Feels bad when you know you could have done it if you had your normal loadout

[pine snow]

yeah its annoying isnt it

if i had my power sword i coulda cleared the whole room

i was tryna use a commisar build except problem is i have a garbage chainsword and a garbage bolt pistol

[sinful swallow]

Gettem rolled up, commissar ate good with bolt pistol

It's literally a whole different gun with puncture and run'n'gun/close proximity

[pine snow]

hadron's casino aint being friendly yk

[sinful swallow]

The casinos about to bankrupt

[pine snow]

i have lethal proximity but not run n gun

[hidden torrent]

Can't wait for Fatshark's second Gacha system poggers

[sinful swallow]

I don't know how much longer I can wait for this item update cause I have so much shit I can just meld into what it should have been in the first place

[pine snow]

at least i dont have to play a million games come new update

getting power cycler iv took so god damn long

[hidden torrent]

I have everything I want and all my weapons I use are pretty much perfect

[sinful swallow]

Any brutal momentum and sunder were painful for me for some reason

[hidden torrent]

So the update really means nothing to me

[sinful swallow]

How many hours in?

[hidden torrent]

A couple

[pine snow]

once i got my plasma gun and power sword the perfect rolls i wanted i just didnt use anything else

[trim steppe]

Since I rolled a perfect Rashad I have barely used anything else

[hidden torrent]

I only used one load out for about a thousand hours, so I have a lot of money and mats

And most weapons kinda suck or aren't interesting

[sinful swallow]

My boltgun currently was an emperor's gift I got on my first auric mission after I just hit 30

[sinful swallow]

I'll get to see what that's like cause I have a bricked one with the rolls I need so I can just fix that

[hidden torrent]

I've also finally gotten to a point in skill where I can kinda use whatever and do fine, so I don't feel the urge to perfect weapons either

I will say fuck psyker, shits so boring

[sinful swallow]

Hard agree

[trim steppe]

Naw magic staves are cool

[sinful swallow]

My penance 4500 is locked behind playing 63 more.psyker games and that's it

[trim steppe]

And mind bullets

Tho psyker is my least played still lol

[sinful swallow]

Imstesd of brain burst id like to see a mind control or corrupt a unit and make them explode into their horde

Some battle control shit

[hidden torrent]

When I play psyker I feel like I'm playing a mobile idle grinder

[hollow turtle]

Lol, when I play psyker, I'm just playing alternate veteran with better chaff clearing skills than my actual vet, but is completely fucked when armor shows up.

[midnight mesa]

"YOUR BALL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN REVOKED

TESTICULAR TORSION"

-psyker

[pine snow]

my psyker feels like anything big just dies but the second i see a horde its oh god run

[midnight mesa]

Do you ever think there's a Psyker that just like

[hollow turtle]

Lol exact opposite to me.

[umbral scaffold]

yes

[hidden torrent]

Vet has pretty incredible chaff clearing imo

[pine snow]

mk 6d:

[midnight mesa]

Sends people horrific images

[pine snow]

i dont even wanna go back to plasma after playing with mk6d

[midnight mesa]

Like imagine insulting them and then you're forced to see like

Your average twitter convo or something

[hidden torrent]

Nah don't even need a psword, 2 shredder grenades will kill a whole chaff horde

Literally 2 seconds

[sinful swallow]

Shit my ambjen hit me

Besr with me as autocorrect tried to save me but

Has anyone tried to take a crack at what a great redesign of the tree would look like

[hollow turtle]

I'm a shield wall Assail psyker with a laspistol and a deimos mkIV. Kills chaff and elites/specs super fast, but anything carapace and above is a death sentence.

[sinful swallow]

Deimos knocks crushers flat in ass

[hidden torrent]

Rashad vet with zarona and shredder grenades and VOC can deal with any situation pretty quick

[sinful swallow]

And does like half hp too

[hidden torrent]

And that's not even the exact meta

[hollow turtle]

Lol its either I'm dealing with the big crusher, or the 3 dozen ragers at its feet.

[thick wolf]

also rinda

you can practically bully her with the deimos

[trim steppe]

I do this with krak instead of shredder to deal with armor packs, since the rashad clears chaff in like 2 seconds

[hidden torrent]

Use a trauma staff

[trim steppe]

but if 8 crushers show up it gets hairy without krak

[hidden torrent]

Shredders knock them down, you can use it to reset their attack timing

It's what I do if I'm actually worried

But crushers are pretty easy alone, crushers + bulwarks are what's aids

[sinful swallow]

Crushers + bulls... Crushing balls

[thick wolf]

also a horde of ragers

[thick wolf]

don't forget the sole scab mauler who goes with them

[sinful swallow]

New record for me is 15 at once

[thick wolf]

half the time whenever there's a crusher regiment, there's always that one scab mauler tagging along

[hollow turtle]

Me, backed into a corner as a psyker, with 3 crushers and 4 ragers slowly breaking through the 2 shield walls I put up.
https://tenor.com/view/the-shining-trump-axe-scared-gif-12629278

[thick wolf]

mine? roughly twenty or thirty at them

[hidden torrent]

I use my zarona on maulers

Just kinda delete them

[sinful swallow]

Gut or head

[trim steppe]

I stopped playing for like 3 months and just came back a few days ago. Did the audio queues get way worse during a patch? I seem to miss a ton of queues that I never used to, dunno if I'm rusty or if there's a technical issue

[pine snow]

me one lag spike away from exploding from peril because im always around 80%

[trim steppe]

I'll get pounced by dogs I never hear, etc. Obvious shit

[sinful swallow]

There is some background stuff that's out of wack, they're asking for reports with time stamps so they can see back end what might be going wrong

And if it's related to how it's choosing target or if it's movement that's messing with their sound or stuff like that

[trim steppe]

Ok thanks, glad its not just me being a scrub

[hidden torrent]

Nice part about vet is anytime I'm remotely worried I can press F

And not be anymore

[hollow turtle]

With some of these device hacking minigame segments being changed/added, I'm finding infiltrator to have more value at higher difficulties.

[sinful swallow]

No one like the trapper that only queue was it shot it's gun 2 planks for your asshole

[pine snow]

is it odd that once i tried using infiltrate i started liking it more than voc

makes doing objectives so easy

[sinful swallow]

Sell me more on it. Do you take the smoke with it too or pay a tax

[hollow turtle]

Lol ironically, I've always been an infil main, but have started to try using voc more.

[pine snow]

i pay a tax, i go shredder frags

[hollow turtle]

Krak grenades usually as infil for me.

[pine snow]

my infil build is psword mk6d and shredder frags

i mainly pop the infil when im in a bind, then underhand spam frags since it doesnt cancel infil

and then use that gap to rez ppl if i have to

[hollow turtle]

Lasgun IA, and I guess most used in that build was a knife or power sword.

[pine snow]

or i'll infil and run to the auspex

[sinful swallow]

There's somethink so monke in my brain about exec stance highlighting things for me

[hollow turtle]

Give it the Tactical Awareness talent, and the two infil uses recharges super quick.

[pine snow]

i ought to give exe stance a go

i tried using it with one of the lucius before and wasnt feeling it

[thick wolf]

I might take off the shout revive if I'm going to use voc in an auric match

[sinful swallow]

Stance is rough. All or nothing commit cause it CDs if you swap

[hollow turtle]

Exe stance with an IA and to kill all the ranged units is nice.

[sinful swallow]

Gotta make sure gun is preloaded and ready to go to

[thick wolf]

exec stance with vraks headhunter and first salvo damage blessing

[sinful swallow]

Wp hits on unyielding should also extend timer imo

[sinful swallow]

The 1 tap of death

[thick wolf]

I used it to earn the goddamn marksman penance

[pine snow]

im like 90% sure i used lucius for that

[thick wolf]

I tried using helbore for it, I feel like a liability

[pine snow]

i dont remember tho

oh i probably was lol

[hidden torrent]

100% accuracy penance?

[hollow turtle]

Helbore not ideal with exe stance unless you're really good with your shots.

[thick wolf]

10 stack marksman

[hidden torrent]

Oh I just crabwalked with psword

Lmao

[hollow turtle]

Or at least, you better have it already out and charged up for the first shot.

[trim steppe]

Becoming a crab is the only way

[hidden torrent]

Vets penances were tedious

[sinful swallow]

Vs ogryns tho?

[trim steppe]

Ogryn were most tedious IMO, the counts were just so effing high

[pine snow]

on overwatch was hell

[hidden torrent]

I did all the Ogryns by just playing normally

[thick wolf]

Zealot penances are slowly becoming my least favorite to deal with

[hollow turtle]

Nah, I use this so getting headshots for marksman focus became a very well practiced skill.

[hidden torrent]

I had to change my playstyle to do the vets, for the worse too