veteran-class

[lusty sapphire]

But I want nipple piercings with it

[mortal orbit]

Bring back andre 3000, darktide

[lusty sapphire]

You know what, one of those dangly ones and it needs to have physics too

[mortal orbit]

New trinkets@lusty sapphire

[hollow turtle]

Just got this bolt pistol. If the stats weren't garbage, and I changed out one of the blessings, it would've had a lot of synergy with my knife in a weapons specialist build.

[mortal orbit]

[lusty sapphire]

Holy Terra YEAH hahahahah

Imagine the psyker hand dangling from you nips

Peak mutant hater right there

[primal remnant]

is this a good roll

[torn gorge]

is the game on sale or has there been some sort of promotion recently?

today auric qp is rough

[primal remnant]

auric qp is always rough

[somber axle]

Aurics have been a big wilder since the Secrets of the Machine God release. Probably some combo of people who are more comfortable in lower difficulties still pushing penances in content outside their comfort zone for the hope of earning penance points toward their chestpiece and returning players who are very rusty

[torn gorge]

[fading yarrow]

The knife in the knife play emote is invisible

Game is literally unplayable

[last parcel]

yup

gonna bomb sweden to dirt

[tame lodge]

Mfw Ogryns run around with invisible Kickback/Rumbler

While also moonwalking forwards

[last parcel]

ogryn psyker

[fading yarrow]

How am I supposed to RP my Stealth loadout now

Look at him
Poor man's losing it

[last parcel]

things were never the same after cadia

[faint beacon]

I like looking in here and seeing more and more vets being enlightened by the shenanigans I brought with Lethal Proximity

Eat shit I will continue talking about (image of bolt pistol + image of shredder frag grenade)

[fading yarrow]

Also, speaking of the Stealth loadout, I edited the second half of my build

Before:

After:

[midnight totem]

anybody up for a game?

[fading yarrow]

I already focus on Ability Cooldown reduction in my Curios so I went with Tactical Awareness to get my invisibility back even faster, plus Rending Strikes and Bring it Down to make my job of nuking Maulers, Ogryns and Monstrosities even easier

[hallow parcel]

I forget, is it skullcrusher or thunderous that you want on Shovels?

[fading yarrow]

Skullcrusher

[hallow parcel]

swap limb for thrust IV and grab 25% carapace then

[somber axle]

wdym

[somber axle]

he's so good at stealth you can't even see his knife

he's like a magician for heretics

they have no idea where the knife is and then suddenly he's reaching behind their ear to pull it out from their head

[fading yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-point-finger-point-gif-4918501

You
Are right

[tall torrent]

Up to u, I like crit chance on Columnus personally

[last parcel]

thrust is just a folding shovel thing. and they all want uncanny first

[hallow parcel]

don't got that though

[last parcel]

uncanny + skullcrusher on standard issue slaps tho

[last parcel]

rip

[fading yarrow]

Crafting rework next week though so dw about it too much

[hallow parcel]

confirmed for next week?

[fading yarrow]

[tame lodge]

No

[midnight totem]

I just want a new power sword skin

[idle swallow]

lead pipe skin

[last parcel]

metal pipe sfx every powered up swing

[primal remnant]

Alright, time to argue. Which one of these is better for the 6d

Also, there's no feeling quite like being in a blackout mission in a big open space having to defend a console, pressing exe, and the whole goddamn screen turns from pitch black to yellow with gunners crouched in cover

Its a combination of "oh shit" and "yay indefinite exe"

[arctic rampart]

I believe that mobility is 1 less dodge, so I would say no unfortunately. but it could be a goo dstepping stone.

[last parcel]

for exe stance VId i'd skip both and go confirmed kill
but if you must i'd take exhilerating takedown, though o4b and its travel nodes are better overall imo

[primal remnant]

Exhilarating takedown, from a numbers standpoint, is strictly superior. It heals more toughness AND gives TDR. But it does require ranged weakspot kills, which can be tricky if you're just hosing a poxwalker crowd, or furiously backpedaling from a rager and just spraying it- The two situations where you're most likely to need those things.

Out for blood feels more reliable- Point and shoot- But is, provably, less toughness recovered. However, it also doubles up on melee attacks, and the surrounding nodes are far superior.

[primal remnant]

I've found confirmed kill to be good but iffy for one reason and one reason only: It doesn't trigger if the ogryn whips around with the club and brains the thing you're shooting at at the last second.

A good problem to have, of course, but it does leave you a bit high and dry

[last parcel]

the ogryns i've met don't run commando pro and can't slap gunners 30m away so it works fine for me

[primal remnant]

GO GET EM ROCK

[lusty sapphire]

Feel like maelstrom with 1/2 extra modifiers is harder than throwing multiple things at you

Cause it spawns so many specials

So much more. It feels like mini sniper gauntlet + mutie horde + burster horde etc.

[primal remnant]

Jokes aside, toughness regen nodes are, to me, "how do you want to recover when being pressured hard", because thats when you need the regen the most. Blasting a gunner 30 meters away isn't really a 'high pressure' moment where I am in desperate need of toughness regen

[last parcel]

even if that's the case, if there's no elites/specialists left to kill then you're fine to just regen toughness through meleeing hordes

[primal remnant]

(and, if it is, I clearly have better things to be doing right now than blasting a gunner 30 meters away)

[last parcel]

well it also works when you're blasting the ragers and trappers 2 feet away

[primal remnant]

True!

[last parcel]

or if you stab them in the balls

[primal remnant]

Putting my ranged weapon away?? What is this the USSR?? All my weapons must get equal out-time??? Preposterous

[arctic rampart]

Secrets of the machine god map (moebian steel) w/ hi int + shock seems like the strongest map currently available? I guess it could get mealstrom (?) but I've never gotten it yet.

[last parcel]

i've got it on exra barrels maelstrom and it was very fun

[tame lodge]

I had the most cartoonish moment with a chain of barrels exploding on that map and modifier

[primal remnant]

Shit it is. Good catch.

I didnt even think about that

[last parcel]

yeah you need >=51 outside of knife/force sword

[primal remnant]

how to get force sword on vet, fatshark please help

[last parcel]

look into the eye of terror for a bit too long

oh wait

[hallow parcel]

yoink

thanks melk for at least uncanny III

[tame lodge]

Could it be [gasp] that vet is a filthy psyker

[primal remnant]

No joke psyker is definitely my roughest to get to 30

I've got mine to 20 right now and am dreading the remaining 10 levels

I never had this with vet or zealot

the only thing that made any break in the dread is the force sword that works like the power sword

where you charge it and it goes woosh for one attack of your choice

[last parcel]

you mean like ilisi

[primal remnant]

thats the one

couldnt remember the name

[last parcel]

ilussy

[primal remnant]

do not the force sword

hadron WILL be jealous

[last parcel]

too bad

[mortal orbit]

It gets alot better once you hit wildfire/shriek or run assail for most dps

And then the keystones

[neon estuary]

"Make every shot counts" is such a pain, been trying to complete it with just a revolver but failed several times. At least i have fun with it by shooting like a cowboy in the wild west.

[primal remnant]

Question: Does bolt pistol require a direct hit for accuracy, or does catching something in the blast also count it positively for accuracy

[mortal orbit]

Try the sawed off on a hist. Was able to turn it out in two tries.

Always dump both barrels

[neon estuary]

idk about that, i dont use that very often.... the bolt pistol is like a desert eagle due to the recoil

[primal remnant]

oh yeah thats true, shotgun, just 🅱️last it in the general direction of enemies, get hits

[neon estuary]

alright, i'll give that a try.... so whats the best blessings for that double barrel shotgun?

[primal remnant]

I mean, considering you are just intending to dump the mag and pray a Survivalist vet doesn't join halfway through the mission, it probably doesn't matter

[scarlet path]

Literally all I did was sedition and malice runs to 30

Wasn't that bad

[last parcel]

i'd rather die

[scarlet path]

The Hadron casino is way worse

[faint beacon]

using a gunslinger build on Psyker throwing myself straight into Auric

fuck it we ball

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-its-crazy-biceps-flex-gif-18022088

[neon estuary]

honestly i stick with the execution stance because it is useful in the dark and through smoke and gas situations

[primal remnant]

blackout
defending terminal
things are too quiet
look out window into blank void
press exe
45 gunners in cover on the far side of the room, staring at us

gonna be a fun trip to the elevator

[neon estuary]

at least it be fun shooting alot with the recon lasgun, columnus V, or a revolver

[primal remnant]

recon 6d go brrrrrrrrrr

[neon estuary]

lets not forget the blue stim - it makes ya shoot faster!

[marble mantle]

Why no one eva take da blue stim sah

Hug always take blue stim

[neon estuary]

the blue stim is a very misunderstood thing

[last parcel]

smurfphobia

[tame lodge]

It even replenishes stamina

[crude fiber]

do you lose wrath stacks if you miss a hit?

[last parcel]

yes

[crude fiber]

[thick needle]

Nah, the recon goes RRRREEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGHGHHH

[neon estuary]

good thing the recon lasguns been buffed

[primal remnant]

Oh man. Last part of the send the message mission, in the outdoor part, getting swarmed by ragers and I'm just screaming while spraying my trusty 6d down the corridor, and someone lit me up with a blue stimm. The feeling of POWER

I'm pretty sure I was just shooting a single continuous beam at that point

[last parcel]

GET SOME

GEEEET SOME

[crude fiber]

i never carry a blue stim around with me, ill just swap what im carrying to pop it when i see it then pick up what i had already

[marble mantle]

Lil uns when they tell me I shouldn’t unleash my entire achlys mag even after the boss is dead

[primal remnant]

If anyone ever tells you to stop shooting the achlys, shoot them too

[tame lodge]

Nothing beats stacking WS then blue stimm then recon 6d

[primal remnant]

clearly heretic

[thick needle]

I gotta say, those recon buffs really did work

[primal remnant]

it allows me to make believe that I have a hot shot volley gun

On that note, how does the recon 2 and 7a stack up

[neon estuary]

i wish they can give us the hot shot volley gun....

[marble mantle]

Lil uns not understand

[primal remnant]

it ok, they not smart like us, have to be patient

[tame lodge]

7a is basically the goated rn
2 has good ammo efficiency

[somber axle]

Recon Mk II has slightly better single target DPS on elites/specials but it's significantly better on ammo efficiency
Recon Mk VIIa has cleave

I don't mean to downplay the cleave and tbh they're both very good on ammo efficiency/damage

The Recon Mk II is my personal fav because I like shooting more often and it has the best ammo efficiency by far to sustain that

[primal remnant]

see the problem is I'm looking at these fire rates and I'm just not convinced they are better

[tame lodge]

Lmfao understandable

[last parcel]

what metrics are you using for better

[somber axle]

but the Recon Mk VIIa is also REALLY fun with something like Dum Dum + Deathspitter + Exe Stance with Marksman/Close Quarters Kill Zone because all the bonuses to power improve your cleave/impact to let you become a cleave/stagger machine chewing through mixed hordes effectively

[primal remnant]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[last parcel]

because VId definitely takes th e more dakka crown

yeah ther eyou go

[somber axle]

Recon Mk VId is the Light Machine Gun

big mag size, fastest fire rate in the game

it's also the only Recon that can get any real value out of Onslaught to turn into a funny Crusher melting weapon

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-bad-ass-gun-rambo-movie-shoot-gif-17248504

[primal remnant]

OK so, I bought one (1) 7a to try it out and got this roll. Perhaps this is a sign?

[tame lodge]

I run the 7a, then I went to try the 2 and felt like I had no ammo 💀

[somber axle]

I run Chainsword Mk XIIIg with my Recon Mk VId because I can just melt down Crushers so I don't need to worry about needing my melee to cut through Carapace
but when running the Recon Mk II or Recon Mk VIIa I run Knife so I can stab Crushers when I need to

[somber axle]

Yeah! Looking good 😄

Stability and Mobility (51%+) are both dump stats

[primal remnant]

Time for Mommy Hadron to fuck it right up

[somber axle]

Flak, Maniac, Crit Chance are three good perks
Dum Dum, Headhunter, Deathspitter are all good blessings

fingers crossed

[last parcel]

crit dmg sprnt efficience punishing salvo sustained fire

[somber axle]

I have sprint eff on my Knife and like having it for extra zooms

[gilded rock]

Upgrade that bad boy and get back to us

[somber axle]

I'll probably swap my sprint eff into +2 stam or something when locks are removed

[primal remnant]

ok so I'm noticing right away that this is one of those lasguns that has an ammo counter that is a liar

[gilded rock]

I think every lasgun is like that

Recon or not

[last parcel]

nah recons VId and II are 1 shot per 1 ammo

[gilded rock]

It's nothing to bat at it for, trust me

[somber axle]

Yeah it uses 2 ammo per shot so it works very well with Shock Trooper

Crit string of 2 so each time you crit you're saving 4 ammo

[gilded rock]

Multiple crits at once shooting for like a whole second or two without using ammo is funny

Saves so much ammo

Scrumptious

[somber axle]

it's very fun with Deadshot

the low fire rate makes it easier to handle for the stamina drain

[primal remnant]

this is what I mean by it being a liar, if each shot is 2 ammo, then you don't have 800 ammo, you have 400 ammo

[somber axle]

and it benefits a bunch from crit

[somber axle]

yeah but with the recent buff to reserve ammo it's got like 1000+ ammo when you get the +30% ammo talent

[primal remnant]

you aren't saving 4 ammo, you are saving 2 ammo

[gilded rock]

Still a lot even if you're spamming it a bit

[somber axle]

this is why the Recon Mk II is the ammo efficiency king

It has high ammo reserve and low ammo cost

[gilded rock]

4 ammo, two shots

[somber axle]

the cleave is VERY fun though

so don't discount the Recon Mk VIIa just yet

[primal remnant]

Don't get me wrong, its still efficient, it just got my hopes up a lot

[somber axle]

firing into a flak rager squad through a poxwalker horde is buttery smooth with the VIIa

[gilded rock]

I'm telling you rn I use it on every elite and specialist in the game except for crushers and dogs and am still great on ammo

[primal remnant]

ok I have to actually go play the game so I can get the plasteel to upgrade it

will report back

because uh

this aint enough

hadron refuses to give me power cycler 4

[last parcel]

many such cases

[slow sky]

have you tried having more? that might fix it

[primal remnant]

jesus fuck

[faint beacon]

Update: The build made an entire lobby leave

lmao

[tame lodge]

I do agree

I could've organized better but eh

No real need to

[last parcel]

scab bruisers just built diff

[tame lodge]

Everything else is above it

Maybe not the dogs from the waves but I have no info on them

I'll probably make a better "mass tier list" later

So I can say things like

You can cleave up to bruisers

Or something like that

Anything below _____

[thick needle]

Every day the emperor laughs in my face

[fringe gust]

was actually about to post a plasma gun myself lol, good rolls (i think) but the perks and blessings are a bit bruh from what i remember is generally rec'd for it

[primal remnant]

oh my lord hadron really did it to ya

Meanwhile I just got this as a mission reward

also: its not looking good guys

[tame lodge]

Well, if you get headhunter......

Or deathspitter

[faint beacon]

GUNSLINGER PSYKER SWEEP!!!!!!!

[last parcel]

biiig iron

biiiiiig iron

[primal remnant]

eww ps*ker

[faint beacon]

mfw the joke build turns out to be good

[primal remnant]

I mean, the revolver IS really good

[faint beacon]

Agri

Though tbf Agri is actually decent on Psyker

[fringe gust]

legit tho anything i can do with this? even slightly? or am i coping

[faint beacon]

cause of all the crit BS you can do

[last parcel]

you can do shattering --> gets hot and crit chance --> elite since gloryhunter is good

[faint beacon]

AgriVolver with Hand Cannon + Crucian Roulette

[primal remnant]

HADROOON

[faint beacon]

Damnation

Can they just fucking

change supercharged to be

on hit in general

[primal remnant]

This is like the 20th sword I've turned blue in an effort to get power cycler 4

[fringe gust]

i was thinking of shattering to gets hot, but wasnt sure what for the perk

[primal remnant]

she REFUSES to give it to me

[last parcel]

elite gives dreg gunner oneshot and reduces shots to kill on crushers

[fringe gust]

is 10% to elite better than like, 25% to carapace or flak or w/e, or is elite just the compromise choice since i cant do both carapace AND flak

[primal remnant]

This is my current one

Hadron you BITCH GIVE ME THE POWER CYCLER 4

[tame lodge]

Nuh uh

PC 4 is overrated (I had to fight against muscle memory)

[lusty sapphire]

That moment when you fight an entire maelstrom only to get error 2014 when the ending cutscene starts playing

[faint beacon]

The game denies Gunslinger Psyker to right to join a match with error 2014

heresy

[hollow turtle]

Lol, gunpsyker is fun, but I don't feel very useful at times.

Dontcha just love when a barrel throws you on an edge, and the two cheeky riflemen on the other edge just shoot you to death?

[primal remnant]

🤔

[hollow turtle]

It's decent

I do not agree with the carapace and the infernus, but everything else is decent until you get a better one.

[somber axle]

Infernus dot damage is boosted by Dum Dum but crit chance is pretty low without Headhunter. You can sorta get around it with Deadshot though! If you keep both blessings you can swap the perks because they're both pretty bad. Alternatively you could change Infernus to Headhunter for better ammo efficiency with Shock Trooper or to Deathspitter for more damage/cleave and change out Carapace. Either way save it because when locks are removed you'll be able to choose what you want

[primal remnant]

yeah both of those perks are... Fucking awful

Carapace boost on a weapon with 0 carapace damage

i cri

[somber axle]

there's a funny meme I've done with Marksman's Focus + CitA and Rending Strikes to boost the rending and use Carapace to let it hunt Crushers

but that's a meme

and not really useful for most matches LMFAO

plus it relies on you maintaining 10+ stacks during fights so when a Crusher does show up the 10% rending from CitA and the 10% rending from Rending Strikes and the +25% Cara lets you get passable Crusher kill time

a little extra clown juggling

[distant phoenix]

What skin is thatttttt

[last parcel]

the unreleased 2 handed sword

[hollow turtle]

Damn it all, really want to get better at using a D claw

[primal remnant]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/277 this one

[hollow turtle]

Fun mod. Tend to crash after every 3-5 games.

[primal remnant]

worth

[hollow turtle]

Totally worth it

[distant phoenix]

I don't even have mods and I crash every game

[last parcel]

[hollow turtle]

Oh, you poor VRAM soul. 💔

[novel stone]

Someone said the lasguns got buffed semi recently is that true

Been using the recon and been liking It so I hope they're good again

Good as in worth using in auric

[hollow turtle]

"Think fast, chucklenuts" moment.

Hopped into Auric heresy Maelstrom.
4 vets. All running voice of command.
Quickly switches to a loadout with Execution stance and a lasgun.
Realizes I picked my F-around experimental loadout that has 0 toughness aiding talents.
Well frak.
Carries.

[hollow turtle]

I've not tried in Auric, but they're pretty dang good in standard damnation. I'd say worth a shot.

[last parcel]

i run them all the time. they're good but it's not like they'll carry you

[last parcel]

and yes, two months ago

[novel stone]

I'm using it in mael rn and it's pretty well holding up

Great for suppression and any small elite

It's a pretty good but not optimized roll aswell

[novel stone]

What's they buff, seems just dmg

[last parcel]

it's in here
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-1/96131

[novel stone]

Preciate it

[lethal idol]

i am from the Ogryn chat, and will work this class

without filling a PHD into veteran class, could you give me a

Fun loadout : will be on lower difficulty

Competitive loadout: money making, being efficient

[arctic glen]

Every veteran should have an ogryn and every ogryn a veteran...

[odd sparrow]

columnus mk v + deadshot + stamina is super strong on lower difficulty and not that hard to play.

competetively columnus mk v, plasma, zarona revolver are the cream of the crop

[terse idol]

Hhh

Voice of command is also like good always

Fun loadouts...

Weapon spec with revolver
Hard to go wrong with ilas with exe and mf

Cause it's kinda fun to go on a point and click adventure

[storm pine]

Good build and gun to pair with an Uncanny/Riposte knife on vet? (reee why didn't melk sell it for zealot)

[wicked epoch]

brunt is cooking

[earnest bone]

If someone want to hunt Crushers, just use VId Onslaught
VIIa is just too good at killing everything that's not Carapace, tho boss damage is a bit less, since no Infernus, but that's a trade off for elite/specialist obliteration

[hollow turtle]

Hold up... They increased the fire rate of the Helbore ?

Did they also end up decreasing its damage?

[radiant linden]

neat, hope you get BM and P cycler

[wicked epoch]

7 percent looks so bad tho

[tame lodge]

It's a massive loss of cleave

Unpowered, that is

[wicked epoch]

so long as its powered its fine?

[tame lodge]

Sort of yes, it goes from around 2 to around 8

And then BM would just work its magic helping even more

[stray holly]

its been a long time since i played so i wanted to ask which guns i should be going for nowdays and what would you reccomend for fighting the twins

[umbral scaffold]

what are some good stats for the quickfire revolver guys ?

is this one good ?

[spice wadi]

[umbral scaffold]

i cant post photos.....

and i dont know how to get a role

[midnight mortar]

#📝onboarding tells you how.

[umbral scaffold]

thank you!

[umbral scaffold]

does anyone have a veteran pistol build ?

[pastel yew]

which one

[umbral scaffold]

quickfire pistol

[pastel yew]

the autopistol?

nope

probably you'd wanna run infiltrate and then stack as many damage boosts as you can

[umbral scaffold]

the revolver

[pastel yew]

I've not done the testing on the weapon but everyone has universally said this thing is shit

ahhhhhhhhh

you wanna use it normally? or you want it to be meh but melt bosses?

[umbral scaffold]

cowbot 😄

[pastel yew]

dope

[umbral scaffold]

cowboy

you have one to melt bosses?

[pastel yew]

not to hand but its not that hard, its literally just every damage boost then the revolver set up in a specific way

probably would do something like this

though this is just an initial speed build

then just the regular hand cannon + crit blessing on the revolver

if your aim is really good you could run trick shooter but that won't be as good

[supple stag]

Surgical + Hand Cannon if it's Zarona

[pastel yew]

agripinaa

probably still surgical tho

not many people seem to like crucian

;-;

I do

[supple stag]

It's meh imo

[pastel yew]

yeah I just dont want to spend any amount of time ADS

gun is quick, wanna insta swap bop

with deadshot its not as bad

[supple stag]

I don't use the Agri revolver so I dunno

[pastel yew]

its basically the same as the zarona but worse

[supple stag]

Prefer Zarona myself

[pastel yew]

far far cooler though

less damage, more bullets

[supple stag]

Zarona is the Big Iron™

[pastel yew]

honestly wish they made it hand cannon size

so people would stop complaining that its able to punch through armor

[supple stag]

It feels like hand cannon with the cadian officer skin

Or however was it called

[dry pivot]

Is this build good?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aac8a89-12a0-4eeb-b017-6805bef650d5/toughness-medic

I haven't really played vet since the class refresh, it used to be my favourite class though

[umbral scaffold]

how do i roll good thing for revolver?

is this good ?

[supple stag]

🧱

[umbral scaffold]

brick ?

[supple stag]

You can't change the blessings and those 2 are pretty meh

So yeah it's bricked

[umbral scaffold]

oh man 😦

so what should i do

[supple stag]

What difficulty are you playing as Vet?

[umbral scaffold]

4

[supple stag]

Eh, you can just use it then, but try to roll a better one, especially since it isn't 300+ base

[umbral scaffold]

id like to play auric

[supple stag]

Sprint effeciency is giga bad tho, change it to something else

[umbral scaffold]

i tought id be faster

[supple stag]

Perks rather serve as means to reach breakpoints, Flak + Maniac would be desired I think

[umbral scaffold]

ok ill keep that in mind

[karmic osprey]

anyone able to help be with a build for helbore? this is around what I am using most of the time, swapping around a bit to try and see how it feels. But having trouble to settle. I dont have any real issues on damnation but want to try and min-max a bit and there have been some patches since i played seriously last time.

this is my helbore:

[fast pilot]

they're many like it but this one is mine

[lusty sapphire]

@karmic osprey you could start from this. You don't need survivalist with it

[primal nebula]

You should really try to roll something with a higher base stat

[karmic osprey]

thanks, ill try that. the better kraks will help vs crushers. i guess "Demolition Team" is the flex node here? or maybe i need to start using my grenades more

[crimson pebble]

The better kraks are only going to affect monstrosities kraks will already kill anything you hit w them w out the perk

[crimson pebble]

And also what melee are u running w that build

[karmic osprey]

oh really, even crushers? is there some falloff so you dont need to hit as close or something that could affect it?

I have mostly used frags lately so dont remember how kraks work fully

[crimson pebble]

Kraks are attracted to flak and carapace but if you direct hit a monstrosity itll still stick to them

[karmic osprey]

i have a kinda "meh" power sword. but looking for something else, like a shovel. but honestly 99% of the time i only use my melee for pushing bursters and stay mostly on bayonet

[midnight totem]

Based

[crimson pebble]

If youre using power sword i assume mk6 then the only real use i see kraks having in your build is for bulwarks and boss dmg dumping as psword can mince any armor you come against w push attk

[midnight totem]

I run infil melee vet with kraks, power sword and revolver as one of my favorite auric playstyles

I take out small groups of maulers and crushers with power sword and revolver, save the kraks to add a massive burst to monsters or clump up crusher/Bulwark rushes or patrols

[crimson pebble]

@karmic osprey if your set on psword w helbore voc then id run this personally

[midnight totem]

I might opt for a good chainaxe with a light lasbore

Rev it up, kill crushers

[karmic osprey]

i have the mk3 psword, but it is mostly because i dont have anything else "decent". I dont really enjoy the charge mechanic so if there is something else i should keep my eyes open for that would complement the helbore better im all for it

[crimson pebble]

Rashad is always a gamer option

Or you could become evil and become a vet knife user

[plain escarp]

Which one'll be better when update comes? I want to take a break from veteran but then I found the knife to the right in melk shop. Tempted to rip uc4 and put it on my zealot main

[crimson pebble]

I like mk6 usually but mk3 you have rn is already v usable less then ideal finesse and first target id replace smackdown w mercy killer and crit chance w carapace

[karmic osprey]

tempting.. the only struggle with helbore is scab maulers, and 5+ crusher groups. so a knife as a mobility tool/get out of jail-card could work. Or something that is otherwise good all around when shit hits the fan, I feel like the psword is more of a "win more" weapon but not great at clutches, at least with my skill

[arctic glen]

I have a mk III power sword and yesterday, I got power cycler IV

Matches well with my recon las gun

[crimson pebble]

The knife is much more then a get out of jail free card it can and will gib all of those crushers and maulers easily especially playing with voice of command

[plain escarp]

idk think I might rip uncanny

[crimson pebble]

The only problem is it might not work very well with helbore tbh

Youd want precog and riposte or riposte and flesh tearer for zealot knife anywayb@plain escarp

[plain escarp]

Huh? Everyone's been saying precog+uncanny

flesh tearer is bad yes?

[crimson pebble]

Uncannys not absolutely bricked for it but w the amount of crits youd be hitting w the right build plus riposte your almost always going to be procing flesh tearer and bleed can chunk a good amount of health

Lacerate is the bad one

[junior vortex]

Always wanted to know...what's the difference between those 2 anyways..different attack animation or heavyattacks

[arctic rampart]

Switch ordo dockets to ability cooldown reduction. I'd also recommend 1 or 2 gunner damage resist, and 1 or 2 stamina regen. Health is not as useful as toughness stacking on vet, as you can get over 200 easily and iron will damage reduction is so amazing coupled with VoCommand spam. RE: Talents charismatic is bad, field improvisation is niche, focused fire is bad (only good against boss). If you can find 4-5 total points 5% melee, close quarters kill, desperado, 25 toughness, 10% melee attack speed really makes vet feel so much better in close range fighting.

RE: deadshot, you really need at least 2 stamina regen AND at least 1 +3 stamina AND traits like duck and dive to make it viable. It can and will run you out of stamina and down you. If you're not willing to heavily invest in it then precision strikes (etc good options) might be better choice

[dry pivot]

Interesting

I haven't played vet since before the class update

What was the elf weapon with infinite ammo in VT2

[mental cloud]

The day I put flesh tearer and riposte on my 6 changed my view on the knife ngl.

[dry pivot]

Spectral bow?

[mental cloud]

I have now become knife zealot. lol

[dry pivot]

British zealot

Is u being rude to me fam

[mental cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-are-you-threatening-me-wait-what-wait-a-minute-angry-gif-24389727

[mental cloud]

I desperately wish I was in on this joke.

[dry pivot]

The joke is just that we have a lot of knife crime here due to lack of weapons

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/london-crab-gif-18733951

[dry pivot]

Maybe you can conceal carry and shoot some guy who goes crazy in the US, in the UK you probably get stabbed before you know it

[mental cloud]

Oh… I was thinking that but wasn’t sure. Did the crown ban pocket knives at this point? lol

[dry pivot]

This is just in the cities though, the towns are fine

UK towns are really peaceful, almost too much

If the knife is fixed and too long it's banned

If it folds it is ok

I wouldn't test that law though

People are using mum's kitchen knife not an actual survival tool

[mental cloud]

Wild.

Then yes I am British zealot and British vet now. I can’t go back. I still play the mk2 evis but apparently that’s cringe.

[dry pivot]

Fights in the UK are more done with fists lol

[last parcel]

so the special attack

[dry pivot]

You don't have to worry about getting shot but I would still worry about getting your head bashed in

[mental cloud]

I mean hey at least it’s more honest

Make bare knuckle boxing cool again

[wicked epoch]

i agree

[mental cloud]

We could at least duel here to make it cool. lol 10 paces and all that.

[dry pivot]

I do have a legal folding knife but it's mainly for utility

Cleaning my nails, and such

It is so sharp though ridiculously sharp. It's a super steel

[oblique totem]

The best use for a folding knife, in my opinion

[dry pivot]

I eat apples with it too

Just whatever you do with a knife generally

[last parcel]

like trimming pubes

[dry pivot]

Use a razor for that

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-warhammer-no-meme-gif-15084429411958404464

[last parcel]

but knife is right here

[dry pivot]

Trim your beard

You probably look scruffy right now

Get an electric trimmer, it will make it easier

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-star-wars-wait-a-minute-wait-what-confused-gif-18842516

[mental cloud]

Damn that’s hard lol

[oblique totem]

I feel like there are utensils for that aside from a knife

Use the knife for knife things

[dry pivot]

I can respect a guy who has a very short trimmed beard, or a guy who has a well maintained good looking beard

[mental cloud]

Imma take a Harry’s razor on my next run and see how it does,. lol

[dry pivot]

It can't just look scruffy or you look like loser

[oblique totem]

Best I can do is grow a goatee

Native American genetics, you see.

[dry pivot]

do the john wick type beard

[last parcel]

havr you ever had goat milk

[oblique totem]

I actually have.

[last parcel]

someone offered me a glass a while back but i declined and now i wonder how it tastes

[oblique totem]

Didn't care for it

[dry pivot]

Some carefully shaped hair on the chin and upper lip

[oblique totem]

I use a small pair of scissors to keep it trimmed short. Or just shave it off completely when I get tired of that.

[dry pivot]

A beard is like makeup for guys, but it can take some time to cultivate

A really well maintained respectable beard will change your social life

You will look a lot more mature

[oblique totem]

Yeah but it's a risk. A poorly maintained beard will wreck your social credit

[dry pivot]

It takes time to grow

You should shave the areas you don't want the beard

I think a lot of guys have a fat face lol. But it looks better with a beard

The john wick beard is very good to fall back on I think

I like how it looks

[oblique totem]

Are you sure that's not because of Keanu?

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-gif-26201510

That's not John wick. Nevermind.

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-neo-kung-fu-i-know-kung-fu-kung-fu-matrix-gif-21409172

https://tenor.com/view/constantine-fumando-smoking-constantine-constantine-smoking-constantine-smoke-gif-24355050

[oblique totem]

I liked Constantine.

[last parcel]

i need to watch it

i’ve only seen art of keanu

[oblique totem]

It's like the matrix, but with the bible.

Which... is basically just the matrix now that I think about it.

[bleak jackal]

does the smoke grenade block line of sight?

or only if the enemy is inside the smoke

[bleak dome]

is this worth picking up?

[somber axle]

only if you are in the smoke

being in the smoke gives you the buff that conceals you from enemies

if the cloud is between you and a bunch of gunners it should still obscure them but typically you need to be in the cloud

[last parcel]

if you’re willing to put up with the dclaw’s atrocious flak cleave dmg distribution, definitely

[bleak jackal]

thanks for the answer

[bleak dome]

oh so those arent good for vets?

[somber axle]

They're fun swords but they struggle when flak bruisers mix into the horde. You'll mulch poxwalkers/groaners pretty effectively but as soon as a few scab bruisers walk in the sword will feel noticeably weaker

The parry is still really fun for instagibbing a rager in your face though

They're also very weak to Carapace so if you're not a fan of parry dancing a Crusher down you'll need a ranged weapon to offset the weakness there

Boltgun, Boltpistol, Plasma, Zarona or Agripina Revolver, Helbores, etc.

[umbral scaffold]

fellas

whats a good melee for crowd clear?

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-brooklyn-nine-nine-grenades-anger-weapon-gif-16979865

[slate hawk]

Shovel mk 3
I am heavily bias tho

[umbral scaffold]

i already use it

dont feel its good enough

(dont kill me)

[slate hawk]

What's it look like?

Stats and blessings wise

[oblique totem]

POV: You chose the wrong build

[umbral scaffold]

like shit big dawg it looks like shit

hey dont listen to me

im just a humble space cowboy

[slate hawk]

My beloved shovel

[mental cloud]

lol I’m just playing. That was the new and improved shovel? One shovel to the rule them all?

[slate hawk]

Almost

[mental cloud]

I don’t use the shovels so I don’t really, when I was playing shovel on mele I was using the standard issue one.

[slate hawk]

I've never used the standard one

[mental cloud]

Eh it’s Ight

[slate hawk]

Just the mk3 and 4

The mk4 might be better? But i don't like the way the heavy special attack swings

[mental cloud]

I need to give them another shot after my knife phase lol

Power maul was hella fun

[slate hawk]

There is some shovel gameplay in the beginning

@umbral scaffold if you're interested

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iwty4cI2xEpf1k8d7/d133706cViK4?invite=cr-MSx3SUosMTA3NDAxNTczLA

This shit should not be fun

[last parcel]

the dopamine from an agri snipe is

[umbral scaffold]

nice

[hollow turtle]

I wanted to take my Helbore sniper loadout out for a quickplay, but not ideal right now considering the power out missions.

[midnight totem]

Do it

[last parcel]

then use executioner's stance with a mk2

[hollow turtle]

Hmm... I suppose I could do that. Main penance I'm aiming for right now is the one with Focus Target kills.

I'm going to need some help figuring out the most effective way to get those 250 elite/specialist kills while under Weapon Specialist effect.

Thinking it'd be more ideal to bring a plasma or bolter when doing it?

[slate hawk]

doesn't it have to be headshots?

[last parcel]

the penance is easiest with high damage single shot weapons since wep spec only crits the first shot, so plasma yes bolter no

zarona is good too

[last parcel]

yes

[slate hawk]

or am i thinking of a different one?

[last parcel]

it's a headshot and critical hit

so you use the guaranteed crit from wep spec and aim for the head

[hollow turtle]

Lol I hate using revolver in 40k setting sadly. I don't hate the people that use it, but its not for me.
Last time I used it when I was cheesing the accuracy penance when it was still asking for 100% and no ammo by end of mission.

[hollow turtle]

would a helbore MkIII also be good in that case?

[last parcel]

you'll have to deal with the slow swap speed

so i'd rather not

[midnight totem]

Yes, but probably not due to the slower swap and charge rate

[last parcel]

vraks VII headhunter would be better if you want to use a marksman rifle for the penance

[midnight totem]

Also, it's crits headshot kills while under the effect of weapon specialist

So be a Chad like me, kill a poxwalker with your gun and start chopping heads

[last parcel]

[midnight totem]

What's that? It's not a guaranteed crit you say?

[last parcel]

faith guarantees crits

[midnight totem]

That's what the 10 percent melee crit node and shredder blessing is for

Plus the 5 percent crit node

[heavy rover]

I like using either the mk III shock maul or mk vii shovel

High voltage on the shock maul

Decimator and skull crusher on shovel

[echo pendant]

Is a firing line of plasma rifles a viable strategy?

[balmy flume]

Probably just make sure you don't all overheat at the same time...?

(Or throne forbid, all four of your overheat and explode. At the same time.)

[last parcel]

that’s how you take a screenshot in warhammer

[primal remnant]

ciag

rager packs never stood a chance

[crude fiber]

Erm they're called ragers 🤓👆

[hollow turtle]

I think it specifically says elite/specialist kills. Wish I could've just done it with poxwalkers. That would've made it easy with just a knife and VIIA alone.

[midnight totem]

yes, crit headshot kills on elites/specialists under the effect of weapon specialist

[last parcel]

yeah, shoot poxwalkers then stab elites

[hollow turtle]

Lol the being able to stab them is where the hard part is. Chances are they'll get mowed down by a friendly beforehand.

[last parcel]

commando pro

[umbral scaffold]

Looking at the itemization update snaps it looks like the new max cap will be 98 to 100 anyone else seen it ?

For the weapons

Cant wait to have a 100% ammo on my graia autogun

[lavish token]

Why would you use the graia

[umbral scaffold]

Lots of ammo

And i dont spray wild so i never run out

Like actually using the braced autoguns like normal autoguns is just so fun

I coukd try the others in due time aswell but ima need to farm damn to see their full feel and potential

[main hull]

i like the Columnus

[lavish token]

The gbrauto is the worst brauto

[main hull]

worst how?

[lavish token]

Worst damage potential, no cleave

[main hull]

Well its a suppressive gun

So youre right about that :)

[tall torrent]

Same cleave as Columnus mk2

[primal remnant]

Worth taking from Melk?

I can change crit chance and rampage but I'm iffy about that damage stat

[pseudo fiber]

Do you need one?

[primal remnant]

The one I have is OK, its stuck with Supercharge

[last parcel]

depends on what you already have. the damage isn't a huge loss but the perks and blessings are relatively mediocre and you'll have to replace both blessings

[primal remnant]

I thought Slaughterer was good

[last parcel]

oh then go for it. PC + BM is much better than PC + supercharge

it's good but bm just better

[last parcel]

here someone did a comparison
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272040775609221152/1272050106203639808/Assbz4T.mp4?ex=66c8b9ba&is=66c7683a&hm=200b068cd4c1c85c0bfb4a66a4d48396151923103ac771c5b390e275fd08b7e9&

[dry pivot]

What is a 63% power sword's damage vs an 80% one?

[primal remnant]

point taken. Unfortunately I have yet to get either BM or PC4 to drop...

[last parcel]

like -10 damage

[last parcel]

rip

[dry pivot]

That's pretty big

[last parcel]

bm at any tier is effectively the same though, and pc3 is workable since i'm assuming you're still on pc3 with the other one

[dry pivot]

I wish this game would let me just do a slider on weapon stats and choose what I want to dump

[last parcel]

and you can just change it again

[primal remnant]

yes

PC3+supercharge

[dry pivot]

What's pc3?

[last parcel]

power cycler 3

[dry pivot]

Ah yeah that is a must

[midnight totem]

oh man oh man

Brunt is selling a 371 base rating rashad

80 damage

80 FINESSE

25 UNARMORED

... 64 first target

[last parcel]

[midnight totem]

[slim hull]

bro that's actually fire

[midnight totem]

heh, its pretty good

but this vet actually already has this rashad

[last parcel]

[midnight totem]

No finesse in your heresy at all indeed

[last parcel]

[faint beacon]

@tall torrent melk is selling this evil fucked up thing

Should I yoink it

[midnight totem]

I would

[arctic rampart]

High priority:
Damage
Penetration
Shredder
Low priority:
Mobility (51%+)
Defense
Perks & Blessings:
Maniac
Flak
Carapace
Bloodletter
Headtaker
Slaughterer

[midnight totem]

thats a good chainaxe

[arctic rampart]

It looks good to me, assuming you can stand it getting stuck in horde

[faint beacon]

Heavy or PA for Horde Clear

Mk4 is pretty funny

[arctic rampart]

That weapon is amazing damage for real. You'll be cackling. Then it gets stuck 😄

Horde clear:
[H1 > PA/H2]
Single target:
[L1 > L2 > L3 > L4]
Anti-armor & boss:
[SP > H0]

[last parcel]

revved up heavy every poxwalker

[arctic rampart]

I had to look up int he cheat sheet what H0 was lul. SP:
BC:
PA:
L1, L2, L3:
L0:
H1, H2, H3:
H0:
[X1 > X2]:
special action, varies between weapons.
block cancel (to reset attack chains).
push attack.
first, second & third light attack in a chain.
conditionally modified light attack.
first, second & third heavy attack in a chain.
conditionally modified heavy attack.
the attacks within the brackets loop indefinitely.

[primal remnant]

if there is anything left when you're done, you didn't do a good enough job

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/crushing-gordon-ramsay-emmanuel-gordon-ramsay-makes-masa-gordon-ramsay-uncharted-gif-23511774

[arctic rampart]

What the heck is he crushing that he's not using the M&P just next to him

That thing looks like a pain in the ass

[lucid hinge]

he's crushing things that can't be crushed in a normal mortar

like potatoes

idk what he is doing in that specific gif tho but he has used a one like that to crush potatoes

[arctic rampart]

The emp disapproves

[faint beacon]

So my ragdoll scaling is fucked with This chainaxe in particular

and it makes

really fucking funny corpse launches off of Poxhordes

[arctic rampart]

The emp wills

[faint beacon]

Bro im just going through getting blessings in prep for the update and just

when the fuck did I get this

[slow spade]

? seems to be a normal laspistol

[faint beacon]

Yeah I've been damned with dogshit roll Laspistols

[slow spade]

ah lol

[faint beacon]

like the longest time I'll get maybe 1/4

at most

[last parcel]

+stam for deadshot synergy with reassuringly accurate

[lavish token]

Headtaker and slaughterer always

[last parcel]

rev it up + thunderous gang rise up

[faint beacon]

i would actually leave on the spot if I saw that

Melk with another fucking decent gun in the shop okay then

[last parcel]

penis fire

[umbral scaffold]

Finally got an okay plasma gun, any key talents I need when using a plasma gun?

[last parcel]

superiority complex and redirect fire help with breakpoints

[umbral scaffold]

thanks

[tall torrent]

Plasma needs 78+ in damage and 77+ in stopping power with +% elite damage as perk requirement on top of superiority complex and at least 2x +5% ranged damage nodes (can replace with fire team) on top of redirect fire

[lyric dock]

The rare time Fire team is actually usable

[last parcel]

run executioner's stance to compensate for bad rolls

[elder fiber]

no

[native quartz]

certified melk moment, not sure if this is the good recon lasgun tho

[primal remnant]

Is there any feeling quite like the first two rolls coming up correct

[native quartz]

huge

[primal remnant]

need more plasteel

[clear lantern]

is 80,000 not enough for you?!

[primal remnant]

I wish I had that much

[clear lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-money-dance-money-rain-funny-comedy-gif-11831260

[wicked epoch]

whats the diff with the 2 chainaxes again

[last parcel]

4 sticks on lights
12 sticks on heavies

[wicked epoch]

thanks

hows this

ay not bad

[undone quarry]

Ay thats pretty good

Those bleed stacks as well, jesus

[scarlet path]

Get the mod that let's you favorite weapons so you can't delete them

[scarlet path]

Dibble Dibble Dibble Dibble nosh nosh nosh

[last parcel]

for reference
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/125

[primal remnant]

danke

[scarlet path]

Backup158 once again being the vet chat goat

[pseudo fiber]

I gotta get me one of those

[proven karma]

Kinda fun with weapon specialist

[idle pecan]

For hacker ideal stats are flak/maniac and both barrels + man stopper

Running weapon spec for guaranteed crit

Still mid at best tho

[clear lantern]

I like it better as a zealot "oh shit" button or to soften up an elite before going in

[idle pecan]

Good for the same thing on vet. But vet legit has the best oh shit button in the game

[slow spade]

Good old "left click" never fails

[willow badger]

having trouble clearing hordes with the shovel vii any tips?

I've been chaining heavies but still struggling with real big hordes

[last parcel]

shove every once in a while then keep chaining heavies

[hallow parcel]

so fraggin' close

[umbral scaffold]

Im like 60 bellow you lol. I really need to start grinding the other classes. toped off lvl 133 vet but no other class evn at 30...

[scarlet path]

I've been maining my vet but the rest of my classes are at 31 32ish

[jaunty tinsel]

so krakking close, you mean

[umbral scaffold]

karkers

[hollow turtle]

About to get so much hate for this trash build meant purely for lining up weakspot hits. I want that penance out of the way.

[faint beacon]

I beg of you

swap the lowest WS node for ironwill

so you dont die instantly lmao

[hollow turtle]

lol which one's ironwill

[hollow turtle]

Fuck. you're right. That'd be so much better

[last parcel]

if it's really just about lining up weakspot shots, you could swap surprise attack for low profile so enemies ignore you

[hollow turtle]

Was trying to get that so I can just guarantee a chain of headshots, but I also want that guarantee kill on first shot.

I could give up the grenade replenish

[last parcel]

what gun are you using that a crit headshot needs marksman + surprise attack

[hollow turtle]

Let's just say I've used IA for such a long time, I'm very good at lining up consecutive headshots rapidly.

Hold up, I'm not using my bleed dependent knife anymore. I can use the fireteam talent instead

There we go. That gave me the two points i needed for low prof

I am terrible at using a plasma unfortunately.

I've had this IA for a longtime.

[last parcel]

oh that one

i thought you were saying infantry autogun

[hollow turtle]

Ah heck no. Lol

Should I be using flak or maniacs for this particular penance?

[last parcel]

1a will be fine, but the question wasn't whether or not you could line up follow up shots. it was if the damage boost from surprise attack was necessary when you already have marksman active on infiltrate use for a crit headshot. noncrit shots won't matter since they won't count for the penance (so it's almost better that they won't kill)

[hidden torrent]

Nerd

[hollow turtle]

Yes I will min/max this so I can get a few each play through

I intend to overkill so the plaguefather feels it

[thick wolf]

are you going for adept assassin?

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/grenade-explosion-rpg-boom-gif-5135363

[hollow turtle]

Lol yeah.

[thick wolf]

I've done that penance with the zarona revolver

simply because I want it out of the way

[hollow turtle]

I can't. I'm not that fast on the point blank headshots. So relying on the first strike IA is going to be necessary.

[midnight totem]

Damn

Fell under 6 mil dockets

[hidden torrent]

Still a nerd

[crude fiber]

Do you have a meme lawbringer shotgun? One with manstopper and scattershot blessings? Shoot that into hoards for fast progression

[thick wolf]

surgical helps a lot for the zarona crits

[last parcel]

wrong penance

[crude fiber]

Oh my b

[hollow turtle]

Penance specific to elites/specialists unfortunately.

Appreciate it tho

[crude fiber]

Ah revolver was definitely easy for me

[midnight totem]

Man, I really always considered it one of the easiest penances

Just do your job as a vet

Kill everything

[hollow turtle]

Lol killshot ready was mine.

[midnight totem]

And it would come naturally

[hollow turtle]

Literally 3 away from finishing vet.

And its all about the other two abilities I've not quite had to use.

[thick wolf]

funny crit gun

[last parcel]

so it's smooth sailing from here

[last parcel]

what about handcannon --> point blank

[thick wolf]

2.5 seconds is too quick

[last parcel]

yeah they tell me that all the time

[thick wolf]

can't treat the revolver like an ia kantrael

or rather, the way I use it

[last parcel]

nah you definitely can

tfoo

rubs

[thick wolf]

given it was used in a mainly close range stealth guy to complete a penance?

[trim steppe]

Thanks Brunt

[primal remnant]

I'm pretty sure all the ones in the armory have low tier blessings on purpose

as its the only way to get them once you're a certain level

and some blessings top out at 2 (and some people are just completionist psychopaths)

that said, actual god roll, fucking tragic

[trim steppe]

Yeah they're all T1-T2, occasionally a T3. I'm just happy with the stats for the rework. I'm one of the completionist psychopaths lol, I'm missing just a few blessings on the new weapons

[primal remnant]

maybe you can upgrade it and get lucky

it has maniacs already

get one good blessing or perk roll and you're in the black

Or, worst case, just hold onto it until the itemization rework, because again, actual god roll

[thick wolf]

how fucked is this boltpistol

[primal remnant]

oh sweet baby what did Hadron do to you

[thick wolf]

least it causes bleed in hit I guess

[primal remnant]

pretty good stat roll though, I would say hang onto it for crafting rework

and then change... Well, everything

[thick wolf]

I'll probably change it to flak and maniac or carapace for now

[primal remnant]

Well, depending on what you pair it with, point blank and poxwalker/groaner damage might make it good as a panic button against hordes that get on top of you. The problem is, that would be really all its good for, and that's not ideal. I think the real value of PB will come from clearing the chaff around melee elites like ragers. So... Yeah, flakiac, but keep in mind you're going to want to use it at close range against elites, and plan the rest of your kit accordingly.

Might consider pairing it with chainaxe and shredder nades to deal with carapace and hordes respectively

[thick wolf]

my chainaxe is just as cursed

or well, the highest rated one

I just use dclaw and boltgun on the well, boltgun guy

[hollow turtle]

There. Much better. Went up by 32 for crit weakspot hits.

[thick wolf]

that being said I wasn't using my boltgun guy build that much

[last parcel]

actually kinda not fucked
lethal prox boosts frag grenade bleed radius too (lmao) and puncture can actually help with breakpoints if you skipped focus target. elite/maniac if you want to go cursed puncture shooter since that gives dreg gunner + flamers bleedout in one shot. maybe flak and something else for broken grenadier build

going grenadier is the better idea though

[thick wolf]

yeah I'm planning to completely revise my boltgun guy

[wicked epoch]

ive been having fun with mine

crowd destroyer + boss toucher

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-touch-touch-patrick-star-spongebob-gif-20809060

[thick wolf]

what's the talent nodes to go all grenadier?

[last parcel]

#veteran-class message

[thick wolf]

actually you know what

I'll just stick to the boltgun

its really banal how a boltpistol is somehow less damaging than a revolver

[last parcel]

well boltgun and boltpistol do the same damage so i'd say this case is even worse

[thick wolf]

at least with boltgun you can magdump and it has some penetration

boltpistol doesn't

probably one of the few cases of "fuck game balance, make it lore accurate" that should be applied to a gun

[somber axle]

THE FUNNY PART

Boltpistol has a slightly higher damage number

Zarona Revolver is hard carried by Hand Cannon

Ok it's not JUST that but it's a big part of it

Also extra funny part

Boltpistol achieves a 1HKO breakpoint on Crushers that (afaik) isn't achievable on the Boltgun because Deadly Accurate pushes it over into the 1HKO territory

But the 1HKO does require some funny Exe Stance and Marksman's Focus shenanigans

Not possible for people who like pairing Boltpistol with Weapon Specialist

[umbral scaffold]

Kid called cleave:

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman3d-meme-breaking-bad-gif-24027228

I love my pocket railgun

[distant phoenix]

I wish I could have a sight and flashlight on my weapons

Fatshark pls make this a thing!!!!

[somber axle]

You can

It's called the Infantry Lasguns

[distant phoenix]

Haha

Very funny

I like not having carpal tunnel

No thanks

[mighty anvil]

hot asf

[somber axle]

That's just the IV (and tbh even the IV isn't too crazy after running it even with funny Weapon Specialist fire rate shenanigans)

Mg1a is the general go to of the three and the fire rate is very manageable

[mighty anvil]

Weapon Customization Mod solves that problem

[last parcel]

kid named xboxb

[distant phoenix]

Yeah well when can we get MODS on XBOX huh?!?!?

[somber axle]

Never

[distant phoenix]

[mighty anvil]

I forgot console's existed sorry.

[distant phoenix]

[lavish token]

“This isn’t call of duty” former CM Hedge

[mighty anvil]

Sleep well knowing console community is way less autistic than the pc community though

[distant phoenix]

But where's the fun in no 'tism?

I want my zealots to go REEEEEE

https://tenor.com/view/reee-kid-tantrums-gif-15375793

[mighty anvil]

I had some guy join a game, and then rage that we were going to fast as a team and leaving him behind and then leave within the first 30 seconds. "I hate when people just run ahead and start combat without waiting for the rest of the team" random user leaves, angrily
EDIT: I just know that was a pc player

[distant phoenix]

Lol ok thats his problem

But I will say its annoying when you have 3 speed knife zealots and you're a psyker

[last parcel]

lol just follow them

[mighty anvil]

I should specify, there are LEVELS of tism.
Not all tism is bad, heck Space Marines are cool because of their tism.

[distant phoenix]

Well the thing is they trigger back to back hordes and leave me behind to deal with them

[lavish token]

There is a reason why you should attempt to be fast

[distant phoenix]

I would love to if my witch didn't have nerd lethargy

[lavish token]

Hordes are on timers on auric, faster you move, the less they spawn

[distant phoenix]

Spent to much time at a desk instead of the gym

[lavish token]

Psykers are the fastest potential class in the game

[distant phoenix]

Proof?

Mines got double peglegs

[lavish token]

@narrow frost is faster than me

[distant phoenix]

I don't belive it

Someone's actually faster than you?

[lavish token]

About 10% if the math is correct

Because of disrupt destiny and scriers gaze

[distant phoenix]

Ah

There it is

[narrow frost]

buh

[distant phoenix]

YIU!!!!

I REMEMBER YOU!!!

[narrow frost]

Hallo

[distant phoenix]

LAMIA LOVER

I too enjoy snek

[hollow turtle]

Damn it Hadron. We were that close to greatness

[distant phoenix]

But still

[mighty anvil]

i assumed they were on timers in all difficulties

[lavish token]

It depends tm

[distant phoenix]

Played with you 3 days ago

Gronk doesn't forget

[lavish token]

Now they just aren’t on timers because FatShark broke them

[distant phoenix]

Tho I was on my zealot I think

[distant phoenix]

They always seem to trigger in the same spots on the maps

[narrow frost]

it was last night...

😦

[distant phoenix]

Which character

[crude fiber]

why are there so many of these lol

[lavish token]

Yep, now it is just triggers on the maps

[lavish token]

FatShark

[narrow frost]

Rat Merchant

ogryn

[lavish token]

Go get a car sales with slaughterer headtaker : )

[narrow frost]

no money

[lavish token]

Broke ass bitch

Point and laugh at this user

Want dockies?

[narrow frost]

nuh uh

[lavish token]

Point and laugh harder

[distant phoenix]

Ohhhhh

I didn't know that was you

[narrow frost]

point and laugh at speedrunner abuser

[distant phoenix]

I remember you being on your actual lamia lover character

[lavish token]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-money-gif-25191018

Imagine not having a surplus to dump on whatever

[narrow frost]

anyways

there are plenty of ways to get mobilty on psyker

[distant phoenix]

I certainly won't be caught dead using scryers gaze tho

[mighty anvil]

hmm in l4d2 hordes are on timers regardless of diffuculty setting

[lavish token]

It’s such a busted ability

Dd is even more cracked

[distant phoenix]

I use that at least

[crude fiber]

scyrers gaze with surge void staff is silly tho

[lavish token]

Flat damage scalers yes please

[distant phoenix]

I just never like scryers cuz I'm not a gunker

[last parcel]

embrace staff gaze

[distant phoenix]

Ehhhhhhh

But double wall is so goood

I love to clothesline muties and bursters

https://tenor.com/view/clothesline-vanessa-bayer-debbie-fogle-brooklyn-nine-nine-knock-down-gif-16485492

[last parcel]

guess someone needs a ds4/deimos/knife

stab the burster

right next to the 1 wound vet

[lavish token]

Based

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/point-the-gun-finger-gun-hand-pistol-sign-hand-gun-gesture-aiming-gif-26292760

[mighty anvil]

how to do the poison tree puzzle thing

[last parcel]

movement key to select cricles
if white, click
loop twice

same answers if you get interrupted

[mighty anvil]

kk

[umbral scaffold]

does anyone have the green revolver skin from the premium shop ?

i want to buy it but im curios what it looks like in game

[woeful ibex]

Cadian?

Cadian 61st officer revolvers?

[umbral scaffold]

yes sir

i started using the quickfire and im in love with the revolvers

[umbral scaffold]

IMAGINE BRO'S REACTION WHEN HE USES THE GOOD ONE

Sorry, that came out on reflex

wdym am i not cowboying enough ?

You'll see

[tame lodge]

Lack of Niel Cicierega - wow wow

[umbral scaffold]

so you guys dont have the skin ?

[woeful ibex]

I found on reddit

this is the one with ADS

[umbral scaffold]

thats dope king and thank you

but i meant in game like in my hand

[woeful ibex]

NP

ah

[umbral scaffold]

yeah because it looks dope

but what if in game it doesnt

maybe my hands cover something nice or smth idk

is there a channel i can give suggestions or opinions ?

[woeful ibex]

IIRC theres Fatshark Forums for feedback and for discord I think gameplay help section

[umbral scaffold]

what does IIRC mean ?

[tame lodge]

If I recall correctly it means if I recall correctly

[umbral scaffold]

ah

irony

very delightfull

i shall reward you with a cookie

🍪

[tame lodge]

[woeful ibex]

If I rememebered Correctly

[umbral scaffold]

can i get banned for using mods ?

like huds ?

[crimson pebble]

As long as its only client side mods you should be fine

[umbral scaffold]

like no mods that affect the game ?

[midnight mortar]

There are mods that only affect your client, those are safe.

Anything you can find on Nexusmods.

[umbral scaffold]

alright thank you !

[wicked epoch]

Is there a mod that lets me host my own lobbies with npcs using one of my characters maybe

and still lets me get rewards

[trim steppe]

Many More Tries

You can load into missions up to 24 hours old. Anything older than an hour doesn't get anyone else joining you so you can play with bots totally legit and get full rewards

[thick wolf]

is this how it feels like to be so rusty of your main class

I've been playing so much psyker I've become so half-assed as vet

[wicked epoch]

is there a way to make the bots like

actually competent?

[thick wolf]

nope

[hollow turtle]

Yes actually

Fancy Bots mod

[wicked epoch]

Whats it do?

[hollow turtle]

Replaces bot prisoner garb with pre-defined or randomized Veteran cosmetics

Sample photo of it.

Oh. Make them competent. I read that as make them look competent.

Lol no. Shit out of luck.

[tame lodge]

They got that shit on though

[balmy flume]

Bots are only really good for ONE thing.

Ressing people come hell or fire.

(Yes it backfires sometimes but most of the time you want that)

[lyric dock]

Bots are great for the following

• Being meat shields
• Being disabler bait
• Ressing people in a pinch
• Teleport into checkpoint rooms and elevators if you're speed running missions on T1

[arctic rampart]

No. I always did it manually to keep my personal list of mods. But from what I heard most people using mods are doing it with mod package so they don't have to do it themselves. E.g. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2964086851