#veteran-class

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terse idol
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Well like okay let's see

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If you're going melee vet like all your points are in the right side near WS

jaunty tinsel
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point is that you can build veteran lots of different ways, but it cant just excel at everything at the same time

terse idol
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And WS has synergy with ranged

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And you do have points to take superiority complex

mighty anvil
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no malice it's just comic genius

umbral scaffold
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Point in case the accatran vld crit build

mighty anvil
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It's like if i knew how to drive stick shift but couldn't drive an automatic

terse idol
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Picking VOC and Focus target

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Makes you good at literally everything

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tribal pelican
terse idol
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Like middle build is probably the most flexible

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terse idol
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Grenade tinkerer

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Grenade regen

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Superiority complex, iron will

faint beacon
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Sees grenades being mentioned

terse idol
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Focus target just gives you damage

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For everything

hollow warren
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5-man squad ftw

fair river
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mighty anvil
hollow warren
faint beacon
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I’m currently on my phone so im sending the slightly incorrect image

terse idol
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😌

faint beacon
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I will never not gas the fuck up out of the Lethal Prox Bistol Grenadier build

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That shit will never not be funny to me

tall torrent
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grenadier build experience is basically

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after first horde

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gale has 50k more dmg than I do

faint beacon
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It’s called he tries killing the horde

jaunty tinsel
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what are your thoughts on the twin grenade perk

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faint beacon
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Then classical music starts playing as a slow pan camera follows the shredder that ALSO had twinned blast proc and is now turning the horde into actual mist

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twinned smokes

faint beacon
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You need a Bolt Pistol with Lethal Prox

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Lethal Prox synergizes with Frags

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faint beacon
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There is none

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That’s like the best it’ll be

tall torrent
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could drop agile engagement for determined? idk

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or rending for determined

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but personally wouldn't

jaunty tinsel
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lyric dock
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Has a weird interaction with grenades giving them bigger blast radius

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midnight totem
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Finished my 250th auric damnation game

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pov: 3 poxwalkers

umbral garnet
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"KRAK GOIN' OUT"

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Wait, that's a Shredder

woven olive
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throws krak at pox burster "oh yeah get fucke..." realises krak wont stick

umbral garnet
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"YOU LACK OGRYN STRENGTH"

woven olive
faint beacon
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Darktide

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More like shreddertide

reef crown
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I read that active ranged damage bonuses affect bleed damage. Does that mean that agile engagement talent boosts bleeds and kills applied by the knife (for example)?

serene bough
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idk about damage scaling but uncanny strikes applies to shredders so you can bleed through carapace

serene ivy
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Now then
Veteran is gonna be the last class I'll have to get to level 30 and then I'll have all characters at a workable level

reef crown
serene bough
serene bough
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sad

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put lethal proximity on power maul Sitgryn

serene bough
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i think the rumbler should get lethal prox

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should also apply to ogryn nuke

severe gale
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i did least damage

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severe gale
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i felt like i just didnt really have as many grenades as i though

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and even when i used them id have been better just meleeing

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there was a couple times where id clear a wave of gunners or shotgunners but

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other than that it was just meh

hollow warren
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Finally chadgryn

severe gale
tribal pelican
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just noticed that the comesary skins make the plasma gun longer...

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wierd

hollow warren
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and that rotating thing in the back is a different shape

tall torrent
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Everything else, power sword

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Boltpistol for specials

heavy rover
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I notice on a lot of Focus Target keystone builds, Redirect Fire is often taken. Wouldn't it be better to select Target Down to help with the team survivability?

tribal pelican
severe gale
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i should

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try the build with a knife

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and uncanny

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and melt a crusher pack

tall torrent
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It works best with power sword

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Cuz the problem with this build is that

hollow warren
tall torrent
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U don’t have points to spec into melee stuff that knife/rashad normally want

severe gale
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i used it with shovel

tall torrent
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Power sword is picked here solely for lower point cost tbh

severe gale
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im #1 psword hater i have to over exaggerate

hot whale
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Yo. What weapon should I use for armor and carapace?

tribal pelican
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this is true those hammer skins are abhorent but thats a diffrent convo

severe gale
delicate hornet
hot whale
severe gale
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melee psword, rashad,
ranged bolter, recon las

hot whale
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Recon las hasn’t been working against armor for me dude. Idk what’s up w that

severe gale
tall torrent
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But it’s not worth it

delicate hornet
tall torrent
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Just don’t bother with ranged anti-Armor much tbh

severe gale
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someone fetch that clip of someone obliterating a crusher with like 30 shots from a recon las

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severe gale
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from a recon las it kinda is

tall torrent
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Overall, no

severe gale
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yeah

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that

hot whale
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terse idol
tall torrent
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Top 3 veteran melee

hot whale
tall torrent
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Relying on gun for carapace is not efficient

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Best bets are prob plasma / Zarona / Helbore 3

delicate hornet
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plasma mows down crushers fast

tall torrent
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You’re still better off with melee

delicate hornet
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columnus 5 with onslaught is also surprisingly good

tall torrent
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Onslaught works for crushers but it’s a big commitment just to make like 2 guns be ok at carapace damage

delicate hornet
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i mean i usually go for reciprocity and desperado so im on that side of the tree anyway

idle swallow
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sacrifice it all at the altar of rending strikes/onslaught recon

tall torrent
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Most weapons don’t benefit from reciprocity that much

delicate hornet
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knives definitely do

tall torrent
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Knife is right side heavy

delicate hornet
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allows you to shred hordes with bleed

tall torrent
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Same goes for Rashad

heavy rover
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i use reciprocity to stack up crits for shocktrooper

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worthy tide
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I got it after too many tries

delicate hornet
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gz

heavy rover
midnight mortar
worthy tide
lyric dock
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The rare "This is actually usable" Big E gift

manic cloak
lyric dock
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I'm 100% scrapping it for shattering impact 4 since i don't have it yet

manic cloak
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Infested for Flak or Maniac, whichever meets non-crit weakspot breakpoints for specialist/elites

lyric dock
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I have a better Boltgun anyways

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Just surprise me that I gotten a Big E gift that is actually usable out of the box

manic cloak
lyric dock
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It'll get the job done

supple stag
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Hadron didn't brick this one

idle swallow
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it's been a while since i've played with full brain off smite only psyker and I can safely say they're still absolutely fuckin useless

finite cobalt
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Did they change the way bracing works on autoguns?

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hot whale
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Yo

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Running a zarona revolver build

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Is this good?

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Zarona and knife

somber axle
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Onslaught is not a good pick

last parcel
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and everything on the right besides stam regen delay is basically useless for zarona lol

somber axle
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Could swap Onslaught into Always Prepared

hot whale
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Oh word?

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Wait

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HOLD ON

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STOP

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HOLLUP

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nah

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i keep going

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AAAAAAAAAAAAA

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

hot whale
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I was running that setup w a lazgun

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My bad

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hot whale
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Just transferred it over

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Mb lol

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Okay ima use what’s on ur tree for the right side

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hot whale
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Also

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Reciprocity supremacy

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hot whale
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True

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I use reciprocity for my knife

hot whale
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Sorry, swap duck and dive for close quarters

last parcel
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(good enough for me, go ahead)

copper verge
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Is this shop knife better than my current one stats wise?

hot whale
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Yo

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What’s the best setup for the colmnus

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hot whale
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hot whale
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Cool

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Ty

hot whale
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hot whale
tall torrent
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And?

hot whale
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Knife

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MK III

tall torrent
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Wouldn’t take skirmisher

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It’s just bad uptime

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Wouldn’t take onslaught either

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Knife is one of the best anti-carapace weapons why do u need to magdump crusher

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Also would highly recommend mk6 over mk3 knife

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Mk6 is just a flat upgrade (albeit more complex)

hot whale
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How so?

tall torrent
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Better horde clear, better single target dps

hot whale
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Dude

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I just got a 379 MK III

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;-;

tall torrent
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Blame FS crafting KEKW_ogryn

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Knife is pretty easy to make as well

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Mk3 is alright but just alright

hot whale
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Sadge

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So like

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How should I tweak the build?

lyric dock
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The hardest melk mission I swear is going 1 mission without someone dying

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hot whale
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I kinda got “Survivalist is best aura” nailed into my head from this one dude I played with

tall torrent
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It used to be

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It’s still very strong

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But it’s more of a “just because it’s strong doesn’t mean u need it”

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Middle & right side have better talents

hot whale
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True

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Just want the 3 from the right

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The ammo ones

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Krak nades?

tall torrent
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Kraks are alright

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U get to delete bulwarks fast

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Also makes boss killing a lot easier

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Wait uh

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nade regen skip chadgryn

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hot whale
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Restard

tall torrent
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Misclick

hot whale
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lol

tall torrent
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Yea try this prob

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Knife kinda needs a stam regen delay node

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Otherwise it doesn’t feel that good

hot whale
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I thought knife was good for carapace

tall torrent
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Put 5% crit chance on ur Columnus

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hot whale
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Wouldn’t karks be redundant?

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Krak

tall torrent
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And krak can stagger boss as long as it sticks

hot whale
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What perks would you say are like mandatory

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And from there I wanna sorta tweak it

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To fit my playstyle and allat

tall torrent
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Columnus, I think 5% crit chance is mandatory

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It’s better than flak imo

hot whale
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For sure

tall torrent
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Because it works vs all enemies and because of crit string u end up with like 31% baseline crit chance

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tall torrent
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Then u have reciprocity which can be on/off depending on enemies

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hot whale
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I definitely want fully loaded

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And shredder frags

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hot whale
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That’s about it minus what’s currently there. I’m not like John Buildcrafter but that’s what I definitely want

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Cool ty

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U actually the best bro

tall torrent
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Plasma is one of the main examples

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U don’t take fully loaded for fully loaded, u take it for superiority complex

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Marksman is also big damage

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Frags are good but u don’t have to have them

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When u learn to fight mixed hordes without frags, you’ll be even better when u run builds that have frags

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Frags are also kind of point hungry in a way? U kinda need double regen for them to feel good unless u also run a strong mixed horde gun

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If u rly want a frag centric playstyle that’s an entirely different build

tall torrent
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It’s just nice for knife

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If no uncanny, right?

hot whale
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Alright

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One game switch to help a friend later

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And the build is ready

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ok now go kill mfs

hot whale
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I present: The Build

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I might swap +5% crit for duck and cover if I get that one blessing on the Columnus for ranged attack immunity while sprinting

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olive badge
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Was just messing around in the meet grinder, I don’t know if this will ever happen in game but I thought I might as well share and see if this is good or not, damnation level

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olive badge
faint beacon
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Ogryn rock throws my beloved

faint beacon
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Old clip, not atm

tall torrent
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cooking rn

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faint beacon
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it was a 3 Ogryn team iirc

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torpid lion
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such a good buildpogryn

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mighty anvil
idle swallow
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exe stance bolter is probably my favorite build rn

tawny badger
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rejects when they get hit by a poxwalker (their toughness was at 99.99% instead of 100%)

idle swallow
torpid lion
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poor finesse

crude ermine
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So close yet so far with such good perks/blessings

crude fiber
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could you always get 3rd tier blessings in the shop?

rigid pilot
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Yuh

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I think

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hot whale
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Yo

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Is the catachan devil claw MK VII good on vet?

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Got a 378 roll in my armory exchange w Crit damage and savage sweep

midnight mortar
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forbidden helbore technique doomed to be lost

idle swallow
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doom lookin ass view model

hardy comet
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is that mk2?

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midnight totem
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Whats our new slop

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rigid pilot
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Clipping smhmh

tribal pelican
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is assult shotgun vet a meme build or is there something to it

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I cant even get the thing to one tap ragers in the grinder

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also its ammo econ seems kinda shite

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shadow aurora
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tribal pelican
# shadow aurora Weapon specialist is kind of required

did notice that just 1 melee kill will always load 1 bullet into the shoty which is cool I guess??? idk i see a vet in auric mealstom every once in awhile dunk on everyone with the thing but like those players are ussualy level 4500 and I assume its just skill

flat crypt
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imo WS is not required but it's good though. Personally i like to run agri shotty with the reload talents and MF with 15 stacks + rending bonus.

crimson pebble
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If you aint running double barrel with specialist youre the kind of mfr to eat ice cream with a fork

somber axle
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I'm very thankful for Fatshark releasing sets that don't look that good

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saving clown money even better lately

somber axle
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eating ice cream without a fork or bowl

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it's just on the floor

crimson pebble
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Instant combustion upon you

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flat crypt
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kek, forgot that db is assault since nobody talks about assault, always db

somber axle
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what's the worst possible loadout you could run in the game right now

crimson pebble
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Exe double barrel is one of the more interesting things iv seen today

somber axle
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like worst weapon combo, worst talents

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Marksman's Focus + Double Barrel feels pretty high up the list on worst possible things you could run

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but like is there something even more awful

tame lodge
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Taxe Sap?

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crimson pebble
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Mk 7 tac axe and auto pistol prob

somber axle
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no sprint, no dodge

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you are Wolfer's immortality snail and every day you inch slightly closer to him and he's terrified because he has no idea where on Atoma you are anymore

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somber axle
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do you think we'll ever get a Karnak Twins-esque assassination mission to try to take out Wolfer

flat crypt
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certainly hope so

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you take +20% aggro for wearing loyalist 6th armor

crimson pebble
somber axle
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have you seen symmetrical

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the christmas tree build

rigid pilot
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Peak

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"keystoneless vet"

flat crypt
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my beloved

hardy comet
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is this worth?

umbral scaffold
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Charge rate

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random pecan
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what do martyr skulls give you?

earnest bone
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look, even zealot has one

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earnest bone
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and it has 161 upvotes

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i bet its gret

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trust

rigid pilot
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Have you ever

earnest bone
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just try it

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that many people cant be wrong rite

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aye, tis the truth

earnest bone
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the majority has spoken

somber axle
# random pecan what do martyr skulls give you?

100 plasteel if you or someone who hasn't picked it up before grabs it
penance points toward your penance battlepass armour if you haven't gotten it yet
funny lore tidbits detailing the Moebian 6th and their slow descent into insanity via the perspective of loyalists among the 6th during the days before, during and after Wolfer turned traitor and committed his men to Nurgle's service (and hunted down anyone and everyone among his men still loyal to the Empire)

hot whale
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I’m honestly not sure

random pecan
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so what if you got it before

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and get it again

somber axle
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it does nothing

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you get to hear the cool voicelines

somber axle
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if you help someone else get it who hasn't gotten it before you still get the 100 plasteel

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oh and yeah the voicelines still play

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so you still get to hear the funny lore again

random pecan
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kinda underwhelming

earnest bone
# random pecan kinda underwhelming

Not really, the amount of plasteel kinda increased from missions with the help from this + random heretic things scattered thru the map, 100 + 200(4x50) = extra 300 plasteel per run

random pecan
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whens the cosmetic shop reseting

crude ermine
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Probably in a few hours from now

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Well obviously but more specifically

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3-9 hours

pine snow
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why wont hadron give me t4 dumdum for mk6 :/

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at this point ill take even t3

midnight mortar
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It should do if you don't have anything better.

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You're losing out on 5 damage per shot, but I don't think it's necessarily critical for the Columnus if you don't want to aim for a better roll.

runic peak
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God roll stats, shame about the rest of it :/

vivid silo
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At least you can correct that "soon"

runic peak
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Yeh keeping hold of it

earnest bone
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you already rolled 2 god tier things

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crit chance

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and lacerate

runic peak
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Well it's on a vet, so bleed ain't that important

clever night
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Maybe a lot of copium, but I'm a mid 20's level veteran trying to make the special operator (right side) of the talent tree good. Are there any good builds that use it? Primary loadout is Lucious/Devil Blade. Like how it kinda runs like Handmaiden Kerillian from VT2.

rigid pilot
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Yuh

tame lodge
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There's this talent, Agile Engagement

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To make good use of it you need something that isn't a Lucius

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Due to swap time

rigid pilot
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Unless you do stabby bayonet stuff

tame lodge
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Or

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You can just stab

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Lmfao

rigid pilot
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But also unless it's a mk3 helbore then lol, lmao

clever night
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Yeah, learned that lesson quick. XD

rigid pilot
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Agile engagement is like the best thing ever

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Revolver/shotty works well

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Plasma too but plasma is 🤢

clever night
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Ah, I see.

supple stag
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Laspistol is also good for that

rigid pilot
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True

clever night
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I'd like to stick with weapons for craft grind reasons, but good to know. Found a decent way to fight Twins with mine, and like to see how far it can go it might go.

tame lodge
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You'll understand why the right side is a lot of fun once you get the keystone

clever night
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IKR? I like it, but everything I've seen so far online goes left or maybe middle for toughness minmax.

wanton dawn
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Left keystone is the worse of the 3 in high diff.

delicate hornet
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its very good if u use it with IAGs or recons

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its almost always at max stacks if you pop a few chaff heads with it

wanton dawn
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Still is barely better at ranged than middle.

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And that was before surv nerf

visual remnant
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For all ur penance hunting needs

woeful ibex
true umbra
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wish they had the cadian green targeter helm back

sinful jacinth
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Feels like a recycled priest fit..

dense tartan
dense tartan
woeful ibex
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@dense tartan apparently if you bought the steel legion pants it gets a discount
KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn KEKW_ogryn

dense tartan
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has anyone put it on a female operative?

woeful ibex
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check drip channel. I think someone did

pine snow
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statwise which is better?

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the 1st one is right? only thing is no 80 dmg

woeful ibex
sand swift
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anyone got any good vet builds for just all round damage rn

pine snow
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cool thx

woeful ibex
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Change Infested with Flak

woeful ibex
pine snow
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yea thats what i was going for

woeful ibex
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Nice

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Do you have Deathspitter?

pine snow
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i do yea

woeful ibex
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NICE NICE

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you got the best Recon Lasgun

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Congrats

pine snow
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lesgooo

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my pain finally paid off

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hadron finally gave me something useful

lyric dock
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You survived Hadron's Casino....This time

tame lodge
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no__ no headhunter

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You know, for shock trooper

limpid turtle
# woeful ibex

I really thought that was the Zealot's set when i first booted the shop up

pseudo fiber
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I do like how unique that chest piece is

dreamy spade
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Deathsplitter is trash

urban steppe
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shop update when aaaaa

pseudo fiber
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It happened its done

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You're free

urban steppe
pseudo fiber
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Not that good

urban steppe
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bruh..

midnight mortar
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The damage increase is pretty marginal compared to the longer sustained fire and better ammo economy with headhunter. Nevermind that you won't always be able to find a free poxwalker or groaner kill within close range before then trying to swap back to the actual threat you were trying to shoot at.

hardy comet
pine snow
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why cant it be the crafting overhaul already

midnight mortar
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Did I misread it? You can still modify two slots freely on it right?

pine snow
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yea

midnight mortar
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You kept Dumdum.

pine snow
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i dont have headhunter

midnight mortar
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Ahhh.

pine snow
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yeahhhh

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pain

midnight mortar
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My condolences.

pine snow
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surely it cant be as bad as when i got power cycler CATGRIN

midnight mortar
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At least you've got the nonbricked weapon.

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That's half the battle.

pine snow
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that is true

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time to get infernus 50 times before getting headhunter

dreamy scaffold
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heavy rover
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Vet chest piece looks pretty good imo

uncut pebble
gritty furnace
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I come seeking knowledge from skilled veterans about a build I'm working on
Need like a second pair of eyes that might know how to improve upon this mess I've made

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Weapon ain't perfect but hopefully weapon crafting can smooth that out

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Near instakill on abilty exception being the crusher of course

midnight totem
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THIS BUILD SHOULD BE ABLE TO KILL CRUSHERS

gritty furnace
midnight totem
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Or at least, I know SneakyCat has a similar build that's capable of it

gritty furnace
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Lies!

pseudo fiber
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Maybe

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Carapace instead of weakspot damage

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I don't know.

midnight totem
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Weakspot and Crit damage perks on weapons are traps

wanton dawn
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Is this bait ?

gritty furnace
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bait?

midnight totem
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They're usually not worth it

lucid hinge
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btw in the pysk plasma sometimes wont headshot but yeah Cara is better than weakspot for plasma

midnight totem
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Because the damage isn't calculated how you think it might be

gritty furnace
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I mean it holds up pretty well against everything else

midnight totem
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Sure

gritty furnace
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Got insane damage but idk if I'm being blind sighted

wanton dawn
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If it is not bait there is room for improvement. Such as removing determined which is useless on hb

gritty furnace
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I don't mean for it to be bait

midnight totem
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Lemme put it this way. If you do 1k damage and 1 .1k on a crit, and you have 10 percent crit damage increase. The 10 percent is calculated from the extra 100 damage, not the whole 1100

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Helbores have very high suppression resistance (actually think they're immune)

gritty furnace
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huh

pseudo fiber
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It's the dumbest calculation ever I hope they rework it

gritty furnace
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Hard to test that in the meat grinder smh

midnight totem
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A few weapons are like that

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Laspistols are also suppression immune

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Not revolvers though

uncut pebble
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Laspistols, autopistols, shotguns, and plasma are the only immune ones, iirc.

gritty furnace
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Revolvers my beloved

uncut pebble
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Helbores just have some fat resistance values.

wanton dawn
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He also has exe and deadshot

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And 80 stability

gritty furnace
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I've literally dumped everything into finesse and crit chance

uncut pebble
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There's a lot here that can be offloaded for better perks.

gritty furnace
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I'm tryna do high crit rate with shock trooper passive

uncut pebble
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Deadshot is iffy, shock trooper is only good if you have issues managing ammo (helbores have good ammo to kill ratios to begin with), you don't need both travel nodes to marksman's focus (also wouldn't take it with a helbore, focus target is probably better).

pseudo fiber
#

Well you can run marksmans

uncut pebble
#

Unironically, marksman's focus is harder with marksman weapons than it is with automatics.

gritty furnace
#

I mean it's good for not having to reload extending the clip theoretically

pseudo fiber
#

Yeah lmfao

uncut pebble
#

Also, if you're just barely unable to kill a crusher on a headshot crit, there's definitely a way to hit that bp if you dump some unnecessary talents.

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Looking down the middle, you have both bring it down and rending strikes available.

wanton dawn
#

Smth smth 20% ogryns dmg

uncut pebble
#

Yeah, bring it down.

pseudo fiber
#

Bring it down if you dropped some stuff

uncut pebble
#

But seeing as that crusher had just a hair left, rending strikes wouldn't be a bad option either.

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Would also improve melee attacks.

pseudo fiber
#

Personally I'd try and grab demo stockpile and confirmed kill too but that's preference

uncut pebble
#

Shores up some weaknesses of the build.

pseudo fiber
somber axle
#

You can one-shot a Crusher using Exe Stance + Helbore Mk III but there are some requirements

gritty furnace
#

I just took out determinded and stamina boost to get for the emperor and I can now instakill crushers

somber axle
#

Perfect

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The 1HKO is very satisfying

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It's not hard to reach 2HKO with the Helbore Mk III but it's very fun to be able to 1HKO with it

gritty furnace
#

The main reason I wanted to rock with high crit and shock trooper tho was because of opening salvo

midnight totem
#

Opening salvo sucks

gritty furnace
uncut pebble
#

Personally, I don't think it's worth going for the 1tap build, because getting off 2 shots isn't hard, but more power to you if you want to do that.

serene bough
#

whats the event boss

midnight totem
#

It's hard to quantify how much opening salvo sucks

uncut pebble
midnight totem
#

But, the short list of things that suck more then opening salvo

gritty furnace
#

but don't ya want more crits?

uncut pebble
#

Opening salvo is serviceable on one weapon only.

pseudo fiber
#

Is it the hacker

uncut pebble
#

And thats the mk12 lasgun.

serene bough
midnight totem
#

Includes JD Vance and his couch being upholstered

serene bough
#

which isnt necessarily that relevant right now so it still sucks

uncut pebble
#

Mk12 lasgun has some goofy breakpoints you can meet with OS on it, but it's still less useful than running deadly accurate and headhunter.

somber axle
#

if you need 2 shots per Crusher you're going to need 32 shots

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if you need 1 shot per Crusher you only need 16

gritty furnace
#

I mean with crit I can one hit reapers without my abilty so surely I'd wanna keep the chance high?

midnight totem
#

Math

somber axle
#

and you will probably need to switch to melee

uncut pebble
midnight totem
#

The heretics greatest enemy

somber axle
#

so every second counts when trying to use your Helbore to pick off Crushers before they get to the party

somber axle
#

so you can get them to clip inside each other and then the krak can get a triple kill or something

uncut pebble
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Well yeah, you drop as many as possible before being forced into melee.

somber axle
#

throwing kraks while the Crushers are still half a room away feels a waste

#

you're probably only going to get one

gritty furnace
#

bunch them up

somber axle
#

and if you can thin the Carapace herd with your Helbore extra efficiently before they close the distance it's even better

uncut pebble
#

The only time I huck kraks at things that I haven't engaged yet are when it's bulwarks.

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I can't be bothered to fight 7 bulwarks at a time.

gritty furnace
#

Doing roughly 2400 damage to a crusher without abilties due to the high crit rate

#

nearly halfs at my worst point but it takes like 20 full charge shots before I'm low on the clip and my crit rate is low

#

my only weakness is bulwalks but If I tweak my build for kraks it's easy

pseudo fiber
#

Bulwarks are usually the problem child

serene bough
#

remember when their shield use to block everything even when it was obvious you were shooting their fleshy bits?

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that was irritating

pseudo fiber
#

Oh yeah that sucked

last parcel
#

but instead i will sleep

gritty furnace
#

Does this please the vets more?

serene bough
#

too heavy on the left for my taste

serene bough
#

but idk what weapons you're running

gritty furnace
#

helbore mk3

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Still can't figure out which weapon to use in conjunction though

serene bough
#

are kraks necessary for mk3 helbore

gritty furnace
#

bulwalks :P

pseudo fiber
#

Well given the speed issues on helbore not powersword.
Maybe try a shockmaul?

gritty furnace
#

Yeah I've taken a liking to the shock maul mk3 atm

serene bough
#

idk if i'd run kraks just for bulwarks considering shredders can stagger bulwarks as well

gritty furnace
#

I like the heavy stikedown loop

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but the light attack pattern is nice too

lusty sapphire
gritty furnace
#

shedder can be used on hoards too and saves me a point

somber axle
#

Demo Team and Stockpile is pretty funny but feels excessive

serene bough
#

imo i'd take 2 points out of MF keystone and remove opening salvo for Bring it Down!

lusty sapphire
#

My 170k monster dmg disagrees

somber axle
#

I guess it depends on how much you use your grenades

serene bough
#

I can see both being useful if you're running kraks

somber axle
#

If your gun reliably instakills Crushers and one taps Bulwark heads then you're probably using Kraks a lot less during a match and can choose just one

serene bough
#

but for shredders demostockpile is usually enough

gritty furnace
#

I mean that's the thing I kinda don't need more orgyn dps when I already drop reapers and bulwalks with ease then popping abilty now makes crushers an instakill

somber axle
#

I used to run a really goofy build for Recon Mk VId pre-Secrets of the Machine God for Crusher killing and would forgo grenade regen because I found I was using grenades pretty exclusively for rescuing team mates and very occasionally to stagger a swarm of Ragers to set them up for an easier laser vomit spray down

lusty sapphire
#

Kraks gaming

somber axle
#

no demo team and no stockpile

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just because it was funny

gritty furnace
#

rending strikes would probably be better than bring it down for me rn

#

but then what's the point when MF already gives me rending at 10 stacks

serene bough
gritty furnace
#

Maybe I could remove 15 stacks

serene bough
uncut pebble
#

The buffs stack.

uncut pebble
# serene bough

Also this is a significantly better talent tree for helbore gaming.

#

I am still sticking with my idea that mf is bad for helbore, though.

serene bough
#

you may even want to swap MF keystone for FT keystone

uncut pebble
#

I would drop mf and the travel node for focus target.

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You would have another point to play with for an auxiliary keystone node or even take rending strikes.

pseudo fiber
# serene bough

Toughness boost over stam delay? (just above marksmans focus)

serene bough
#

you could take either, but for a mk3 helbore i really dont think MF is necessary

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your gun is going to kick like a mule with exec stance

somber axle
#

I wonder if MF makes it more consistent for Crusher 1 taps...

#

The buff to MF duration a while ago made it feel a lot more comfy

#

And you can use uncharged tap fire to headshot shooters comfortably

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somber axle
#

I should try this eventually

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It sounds pretty fun for someone who likes juggling MF stacks

gritty furnace
#

without MF with ability

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thats uh

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a big big diff

serene bough
#

sure but did you take ogryn damage for this screenshot

somber axle
#

Being able to do it without Close Quarters Kill Zone or For the Emperor would be nice too

serene bough
#

i.e. Bring it Down!

gritty furnace
#

nop just pulled out mf

#

lemme test

serene bough
#

I feel like FT + Bring it down would give similar if not more consistent damage

#

but i've never tested

gritty furnace
#

with bring it down

last parcel
#

oh wait first one is ft lol

somber axle
#

Infiltrate Crusher 1 tap would be really funny if possible

gritty furnace
#

rip even with 5 stacks of FT

last parcel
gritty furnace
#

FT definitly works

serene bough
#

I see

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so you need elite + cara

gritty furnace
#

but MF doesn't disappear and I don't need to reapply to each enemy

last parcel
#

pretty much

gritty furnace
#

So I feel like MF is better with more elite hoards

#

but bosses maybe better with FT

serene bough
#

the only objection I have with MF using your build is you invest 3 additional points into it

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so i'd question whether or not it's worth spending 3 talent points just for a crusher 1hko

gritty furnace
#

Vet's my least played idk much bout it so was sticking with what felt right

serene bough
#

generally you should always try and pick up demo stockpile, grenade regen is arguably essential in all vet builds

pseudo fiber
serene bough
#

and considering these screenshots are not critical hits and the helbore has surgical as a blessing, i'd also test to see how easily you can hit 1hko breakpoints using crits

last parcel
gritty furnace
#

I mean yeah I've got other builds but I wanted to make something was was competent at taking down elites

serene bough
paper knoll
gritty furnace
#

lol my friend got baited by the colours when I was showing them this too

serene bough
somber axle
#

But jumping through hoops is so fun!

gritty furnace
#

I'm just making a build for testing I don't need something that's made for auric maelstroms regularly

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paper knoll
#
  • if you use the mk2 your ttk on them at weight of fire 5 with exec stance is already so low it doesn't really matter if u 1 shot when u can drilll 4 fully charged shots into them in a little less than 2 secs
somber axle
#

You can kill Crushers in 2 shots with the Helbore Mk II for the 5 sec FtE is up during Exe Stance

paper knoll
#

mhm

somber axle
#

That's without Marksman's Focus though

gritty furnace
#

Why not make it one shot chaos

somber axle
#

I haven't toyed with MF + Helbores before

gritty furnace
#

Extend exe per kill

somber axle
#

But it might be possible without a combat stim using Marksman's Focus instead

gritty furnace
#

Stims are unreliable imo cause sometimes you get them sometimes you don't if anything they're for unexpected bosses for me

dense tartan
#

+25% carapace damage case use?

Is it worth taking over flak if I'm only using melee against maulers crushers and monsters?

pseudo fiber
#

Flak affects maulers

delicate hornet
#

if ur only using melee for crushers then flak is better to take, carapace is rare/u can get around it otherwise

hard cave
delicate hornet
#

only on the head

hard cave
#

WHAT

delicate hornet
#

their body is flak

last parcel
#

that's why dickshots are the goat

hard cave
#

how the hell did i not know this,,,

faint beacon
delicate hornet
#

its more intuitive to headshot everything so it took a while for me to find out as well haha

hard cave
#

so I'm guessing its better to not go for headshots on maulers

faint beacon
#

it becomes second nature to body shot with maulers

#

yeah

hard cave
#

holy shit,,,

#

my mind has been blown

pseudo fiber
#

Also throw a krak it always goes to the head.

It's quite funny actually

faint beacon
#

Free headshots

last parcel
#

I CAN'T SEE SHIT OUTTA THIS HEL-

dense tartan
#

So carapace+25% is for crushers only. And otherwise is a trap

delicate hornet
#

basically, i think the only other enemies that have it are bulwarks/reapers on very small areas of their bodies

last parcel
#

always stab the shoulder chadgryn

tall torrent
dense tartan
delicate hornet
#

yes, its only flak

tall torrent
elder fiber
#

usually high finesse weapons still wanna hit head esp with uncanny

delicate hornet
dense tartan
tame lodge
#

Or Push Attack Punch Stab bigbrain

#

You can just push attack spam 💀

tall torrent
#

Pretty much any finesse weapon or weapons with innately higher carapace ADM

#

U want to hit head on mauler over body

dense tartan
#

Okay thanks. I have an electro cane and it has unyeildling +20 and Carapace+25. I think I'll take maniac to hit problem specialist instead of Carapace.

tame lodge
#

Brunt just gave me a Helbore Mk3 with 61 ammo and everything else 80

#

Maniac perk

last parcel
hard cave
#

mk3 doesn't have the bayonet charge,,,,

dense tartan
#

So good.

tame lodge
#

And of course a T1 blessing

tame lodge
dense tartan
#

Don't need ammo when you're getting critical weakspot kills

tame lodge
#

Let's go gambling

last parcel
hard cave
#

what

last parcel
tame lodge
#

20% Maniac flak
No respite Sus Fire

#

Gonna put Surgical and keep sus Fire for the meme potential (it's going to suck)

last parcel
#

yes, join the one shot gang chadgryn

#

(we missed the first 3 shots)

serene bough
heavy rover
midnight totem
#

first mission down

#

No sight of Rinda

#

WHERE ARE YOU WOMAN

cyan anchor
#

Should I keep this? the rating is high

elder fiber
#

She's busy being obliterated in 2 seconds each time she pops up

elder fiber
#

Rinda, naively: "I could take on 4 rejects at once"

lucid hinge
midnight totem
#

Was auric

lucid hinge
#

because apparently she doesn't appear in aurics

midnight totem
#

granted, I joined.. a 1/4th of the way in? But the team said they didn't see her ye-

#

WTF

#

RUNNING SCURRED WOMAN

#

I see how it is

gilded wraith
#

Anyone have a GL link for a solid "no ammo" modifier build?

uncut pebble
#

Rinda got smoked by 2 ogryns with not a brain cell between them, a literal homeless man with a shank, and a very pissed off Cadian. She will NOT be handling auric operatives.

#

(this was my first special assignment mission)

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Oh, AND her brother was there.

#

So it was 4v2 against literal idiots and they lost.

midnight totem
#

ah

#

the brother spawns too?

uncut pebble
#

No I meant the Twins mission.

#

Like the actual fight where you take down both of them.

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The first time I did it, it was the full mission, not the skip, on damnation, and my team was myself as the homeless man with the knife (zealout), a very pissed off Cadian (psword plasma vet), and two ogryns that were completely oblivious to the idea of higher order thinking.

midnight totem
#

Ah

#

I mean

#

That's pretty much an ideal team to kill the Twins though

#

I did the damnation hard mode with a discord team from here

#

two vets, a zealot, an ogryn

last parcel
#

i lucked out with merging strike teams for hard mode

#

then i got diarrhea

#

i never saw those people again

midnight totem
#

Nurgle keeping you apart from each other

tall torrent
tall torrent
elder fiber
#

its like, genuinely pathetic lol

#

I was hoping she'd at least get some of Rodin's moveset like the stinky mines

tame lodge
#

If Rinda locked in she could just drop them when she dashes

#

Like a bon trail

#

I guess 1 or 2 mines would be more balanced

#

Instead of an actual bon trail of mines

scarlet path
#

Guess she knows better

#

Like my axe is pretty OP but me doing one heavy attack shouldnt take massive chunks of Rinda's health like that ngl

#

She does feel pretty weak, i fought her on an assassination mission and the captain at the end was harder to fight than her.

#

How the hell did she and her brother become "Wolfer's Hands"

tall torrent
#

Pretty sure

tame lodge
#

The one on Orthus has 72k health on damnation

#

A normal plague Ogryn has 60k

#

Let that sink in

scarlet path
#

I now need a mod that replaces ogryn rocks with sinks

tame lodge
#

I hope we get a (weakened) version

livid forge
#

Is there any terror in the dark on auric?

elder fiber
#

no

tame lodge
#

It would be hilarious to see multiple Rindas on monster specialist

elder fiber
#

yeah that'd own

zenith sandal
#

Sweet mother of mercy

tall torrent
#

Terror in the dark reminded me why I hated lights out in the first place

zenith sandal
#

Gentlemen

#

I present to the board

#

I’ve peaked

#

It’s never going to get better till the rework is out

#

Have I won darktide?

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

I prefer mk3

tall torrent
#

Winning darktide is getting a true godroll Rashad

crude fiber
#

wait is the "new enemy" one of the twins again?

zenith sandal
#

Back for a limited time only

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

That guy you killed last event!

crude fiber
#

amazing

#

somehow, Rinda survived

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

I was hopeful we would get a new monstrosity that was essentially a reskin of the twins but was permanent and made more balanced

#

But just having her again is a shame especially since it’s temporary

#

And it also means the next “super special story mission” is probably going to be us fighting her again.

tall torrent
#

There’s another one but doesn’t seems to be active for this event

crude fiber
#

is she uncommon? ive played 3 lights out mission without seeing her

zenith sandal
crude fiber
#

not Auric?

zenith sandal
#

Took me so long to work out they don’t spawn in auric 😂

crude fiber
#

lmfao

zenith sandal
#

I’ve not seen them in auric yet and I would assume you’d know if they do because auric is still “lights out” whereas the normal missions have “danger in the dark” or something

crude fiber
#

do you get anything from seeing her or the mystery other enemy?

zenith sandal
#

It’s a shame too because it’s just lights out and she spawns half way through once

tall torrent
#

There’s a new enemy lua file added (Dreg faction)

#

Very recent

zenith sandal
#

There’s challanges for doing the mission type 15 times

#

Just the usual currencies though sadly no charms borders etc

tall torrent
#

It’s just Rinda

zenith sandal
#

Commodores rotation is also pretty crap imo

tall torrent
#

She shows up, get krak blasted in <10s, gets away

zenith sandal
#

Yet another zealot cosplay for veterans

#

Commodores for veterans has 2 flavours, green slop or zealot cosplay

clear mist
#

whats the best melee weapon? with what mods and blessings

tall torrent
clear mist
#

thanks

crude fiber
#

time to put on my diaper and play standard missions 🙄

tall torrent
#

Rashad needs 77%+ in first target, penetration, finesse and damage, 51%+ in mobility
Brutal momentum, headtaker
Unarmored, carapace/unyielding

limpid turtle
zenith sandal
#

It’s literally my first helbore I have nothing in my sticker book KEKW_ogryn

muted knot
zenith sandal
#

Some of it is

#

See the vet stuff is like nice

muted knot
#

Can you Screenshot real quick ?

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

But why oh why is it not a zealot item

zenith sandal
muted knot
tall torrent
muted knot
#

I often find some of zealot Armour better

tall torrent
#

This color scheme better than original red & gold tbh

muted knot
tall torrent
muted knot
#

What

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Thats a zealot Set If ive ever Seen one

zenith sandal
#

I know I’m kinda livid that zealots didn’t get it

tall torrent
#

Weapon skins are:
Autopistol (rerun)
Braced autogun (rerun )
Devil’s claw sword (rerun?)
Ogryn shovel (new?)

muted knot
#

Oh wait its the vet pant i know

#

What did zealot get ?

zenith sandal
#

It’s kind of mad that they don’t put more effort into the biggest money maker in the game

tall torrent
#

Psyker set is new (kinda)

zenith sandal
tall torrent
#

Zealot is full reskin

#

It’s overall rerun/reskin this time

zenith sandal
#

Tbh the psyker stuff is nice it’s just niche

tall torrent
#

But I can’t rly complain abt weapon cosmetics

umbral scaffold
#

I can chadgryn

muted knot
zenith sandal
#

I’m a whale I spend copious amounts of money on skins even I won’t use them but they have to look good

#

I have maybe got 7-10ish sets for my zealot and I haven’t bought one in probably 3 months because it’s endless reskins or miss the flavour completely

#

I’ve also noticed they’re going all over the place with colour schemes meaning it’s really hard to mix and match stuff

tall torrent
#

Yea

#

I’ve just resorted to Cadian Kasrkin for my vet

zenith sandal
#

If I was to purchase the current set I would struggle a lot to make it work and I put so much time and money into making sets that work that aren’t just 3 of the same pack

tall torrent
muted knot
tall torrent
#

Nothing else I have looks as good as this and I’m ok with that

muted knot
#

Theres a few good Combos imo

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Like that one really ragged Brown stormcoat with Most helmets

zenith sandal
#

I like veterans looking simple tbf but at the same time like they could have more doodads in general

tall torrent
#

Veteran enforcer Armor is really hard to pair with other stuff even though it looks rly good

last parcel
tall torrent
#

They still haven’t released tempestus scion armor / vostroyan firstborn armor / Kasrkin helm

zenith sandal
umbral scaffold
#

IMAGINE HAVING A DYE SYSTEM IN YOUR PAID GAME

tall torrent
#

I’d be happy if they do Tanith 1st & only one day

serene ivy
#

6 more levels in vet and ill have all classes at 30

tall torrent
#

Also not sure why they don’t do more military armor looking stuff for veteran

#

I remember like 3 continuous rotations where it’s just all leather jackets

zenith sandal
#

Fatshark make a visored guardsman helmet and my wallet is yours 🗣️🗣️

serene ivy
#

leather jackets are cool

zenith sandal
#

I feel like my issue with vet is they have like 3 looks everyone uses

tall torrent
#

Savlar trench coat was good

zenith sandal
#

I am hoping for that to return

umbral scaffold
#

Inside of you there are two vets:

  • Krieg
  • Cadian
junior haven
#

Prisoner fit best fit.

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

Its just muffled noises like pyro from tf2

#

Even without a helmet

umbral scaffold
#

Vet players get confused when given something other than green or not-WW2

muted knot
#

But Not AS much AS pyro

zenith sandal
#

Vet styles are kinda just kreig, typical guardsman, tanker, commissar is my issue

muted knot
#

Voicepack that makes your Guy more Happy the less health you have

tall torrent
zenith sandal
#

I wanted to make mine look like a radio operator or some sort of tech based guardsman and I’m happy with it

zenith sandal
muted knot
zenith sandal
#

I really like making looks that aren’t common but work

tall torrent
#

There’s not been much actual “40k military-looking” stuff

#

Even if they spam Cadian wargear variation 1~800 it’d still be better than leather jacket roulette

junior haven
#

I don't think there are many references to imperial guardsmen uniform that isn't military complex standard.

zenith sandal
#

My ogryn looks are either some sort of bulky bulgryn, some sort of alien marines vibe or a British WW1 commander and I love them all

#

But with vet I really struggle

#

I got the rogue trader stuff hoping one day I could make it work but the chest is a fucking nightmare to match with other stuff

tall torrent
#

Also for some reason veteran cosmetics almost always have 1/more of:
Clipping
Incorrect muscle rendering
Weapon FOV related texture glitches

zenith sandal
#

There’s the flash page of the commodores btw just for anyone who hadn’t seen it

serene ivy
#

operative stygium kinda fire

zenith sandal
tall torrent
#

They still haven’t fixed that

#

U cannot use Cadian vox pack on Kasrkin armor without it clipping into the armor

zenith sandal
#

I just get disappointed the only “interesting” stuff we get for Vet is very clearly not Vet themed

tall torrent
#

The one with least amount of clipping is Moebian 6th but because they didn’t bother to release helmet + mask combo, Moebian 6th set just looks incomplete

#

If they release helm + mask combo for Moebian 6th I’d actually use that a lot

zenith sandal
#

Like as I said with my ogryns this is them, all fairly unique, totally different styles and themes.

My vet is what I sent earlier In white or in green. One has the psion helmet

#

I’d kill for some voidsman at arms gear that can work with other items

tall torrent
#

This is what mask + helm combo would look like