veteran-class

[midnight totem]

Personally, I never miss

[tame lodge]

[midnight totem]

Anyway, watch me fumble three shots at a flamer because it stumbled and I didn't headshot it

[jolly estuary]

Should I be doing quick play? Or choosing a mission with something like scriptures?

[bronze umbra]

Me after shooting a random scab in the chest 4x with a charged hellbore (why isn't he dead?? SERVER HAS DISCONNECTED)

[midnight totem]

Doesn't matter unless you're going for scriptures for achievements or weekly

[jolly estuary]

Ok

[supple stag]

How are the shock mauls for Vet? What blessings would go well with those?

[umbral scaffold]

feel like there should be more aoe on it

[midnight totem]

Shock mauls are solid melee choices

[tame lodge]

Skullcrusher+ High Voltage/Lightning Reflexes

[umbral scaffold]

if you guys say so, personally it didnt feel good against anything that wasnt smaller guys

[wicked epoch]

is it fun? yes

[bronze umbra]

Imo they're more fun on zealot but solid choice
Not really standout on veteran imo

[wicked epoch]

i tested in the meat grinder, killed a plogryn pretty fast lmao

[tame lodge]

Just give it 30% rending

[midnight totem]

Kinda like chainswords, they're versatile, great performers and require finesse in certain situations but can be used for anything. Relatively low boss damage though

[bronze umbra]

Man sometimes hadron really does look out for us rejects

[wicked epoch]

im going to ask hadron to toast my bread

if you know what i mean

[tame lodge]

Alright, keep power cycler

And flak

Of course

[mighty anvil]

is there a breakpoint spreadhseet out there, i'm trying to figure out how much stopping power I need to stagger elites

[umbral scaffold]

if you put bread in and the toast comes out

where does the bread go

???

[random pecan]

does auto load mod not work?

do you have to do every mod manually?

[supple stag]

Did you fill up the load order document with the mod names?

otherwise it won't load them

[umbral scaffold]

Auto load should do it automatically

I never really put mine in the file manually

[random pecan]

its not working for me

can you help me do it

?

@umbral scaffold

[umbral scaffold]

putting them manually in the text file load list is the most sure way of doing it lol

if you trust a third party to do your job if it gets outdated it might not deploy as intented etc

Are you using the Vortex plugin?

[random pecan]

yes?

im jsut pressing vortex

[umbral scaffold]

Odd

I take it all the mods you want are enabled there and you hit the deploy button?

[random pecan]

que

wdym

what deploy button

[umbral scaffold]

This button

[random pecan]

howd you get there lol

[umbral scaffold]

I mean

How are you trying to use your mods?

[random pecan]

i go to mod page and press vortex and slow download

im under the assumption it automatically works from there

[random pecan]

howd you get this tho

[umbral scaffold]

Doesn't that just download the mod to whichever place your download folder is at?

[random pecan]

vortex downloads and then deletes it for me

[umbral scaffold]

You open the Vortex app and go to the mods tab

It should be listing all your mods

[umbral scaffold]

lol...?

did you hit "manage game" and choose darktide ?

atleast

in vortex

or have vortex at all installed

[random pecan]

didnt realize vortex was an app on its own

[umbral scaffold]

god....

LMFAOOO

[random pecan]

i dont mod usually

and if i do its usually directly from steam workshop

[umbral scaffold]

your name really checks out

[last parcel]

😿

[random pecan]

🙂

[earnest bone]

https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/index#/installing-mods

If you fail to do it with vortex

[random pecan]

i have dmf i think

[umbral scaffold]

you should watch a quick video on how to mod it or that might take you 10 mins but, youll know what to do !

[random pecan]

damn there goes my night

[umbral scaffold]

its not very hard, even manually adding them with dmf and mod loader, as per compared something like minecraft

[random pecan]

wanted to enjoy it after work

spent an hour trying to mod it lol

[last parcel]

welcome to the club

[umbral scaffold]

i get that 100%,

spent a few nights myself modding my games only to find out that some or alot of mods didnt work etc

thats how it goes

[random pecan]

depressing

[umbral scaffold]

its not always like that but if you take your carefull time it usually pays out

[random pecan]

can i use vortex to get the krieg drip?

so i dont have to buy it in game

[umbral scaffold]

The drip mod doesn't seem to have all armors, but it's got some at least

Ideally it's better for colouring the stuff you already own and adding little tidbits

[random pecan]

unfortunately i just bought the game recently so

i dont have the krieg drip

damn this shit taking ages

[umbral scaffold]

the cosmetics mods usually are only local

[random pecan]

does it usually take this long to download a game?

[last parcel]

and the ones that aren't are bannable

[umbral scaffold]

what are you downlaoding it from

[random pecan]

the app

[umbral scaffold]

vortex ?

[random pecan]

yeah

[umbral scaffold]

like youre adding your game ?

[random pecan]

yes

adding it to managed

[last parcel]

thanks brunt

[random pecan]

what is that blessing

and perk

[last parcel]

don’t worry about it

[random pecan]

wild

[random pecan]

@last parcel full auto mod doesnt let you put mouse button 1 as a hold button bind?

[last parcel]

i don’t know i never tried that

i just use the fire select toggle bind

[random pecan]

does it let you use mouse button 1 as a bind though?

[last parcel]

i don’t know i never tried that

[random pecan]

what do you have it binded to

[last parcel]

i don’t use the hold button

i use the toggle button

[random pecan]

yes but what do you have it binded to

[last parcel]

b

[random pecan]

where should you get your guns from?

brunt or requisitions

[junior vortex]

Anyone using the mk7 shovel?

Which blessings would you recommend

[supple stag]

Uncanny + Thrust

Mk7 is fairly popular when we talk about shovels

[junior vortex]

Thx

[thick wolf]

I was going to use the Mk3 incase I get bored with the Mk7

but then Mk7 is now being seen as the better choice?

tho I really want to run with that starter shovel you get just to see how it fares well compared to the sapper shovels

[supple stag]

I usually see people say Mk7 is better, I prefer Mk3 myself

Starter shovel sucks when it comes to single target

[thick wolf]

but is good at crowd control like every other shovel

[junior vortex]

Isn't the mk7 a combination of both?

Good horde clear and good dingle target dmg with the alt attack

[supple stag]

I do heavy melee playstyle, starter shovel isn't my thing really

[umbral scaffold]

Requisitions is good to find some pre-rolled stuff, but Brunt's is for mass-buying grey stuff to roll for high base ratings

[thick wolf]

I see the ogryn heavy melee playstyle has infiltrated the veteran

my infanty lasgun guy originally mains a shovel, but then the indignatus shock maul had to exist

[lusty sapphire]

do it

For the memes

I was talking to someone in here about gluggers just hogging ammo and not knowing how to melee

Double barrel/shovel weapon specialist tho might be my favourite loadout now

[earnest bone]

i bet that was me

(alt) ranged stealth support veteran btw

so in the end you can melee with whatever

its just that people dont know or dont want to

on some maps it goes into extremes

16

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cooper-jones-jay-foreman-map-men-grave-inhumation-gif-13298387559146904695

+45% move speed towards downed/etc ally and +20% res speed + stun immunity is insane utility

[tame lodge]

Leave no one behind when it's the yellow sign

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-ncr-gif-26068586

i feel like im playing battlefield 4 medic

(bf4 was the last one i played)

[thick wolf]

me when playing as a medic in BF1

I must stab everyone with the unwashed needle

I even went out of my way to run to squads I don't belong to just to stab them with it

[tame lodge]

Everything is on smoke or burning or gassing but I already got 40 soldiers up

[umbral scaffold]

hot

[tame lodge]

It's the flamethrower

[mighty anvil]

This is the way

[deft bobcat]

Same

[deft bobcat]

Here here

[earnest bone]

my old agri8

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/474859644494544898/1196135863856402503/image.png?ex=66b99615&is=66b84495&hm=ba1d7fa0790f4b96b70a453618288b7d31240c2aef8d5aff656d853f423c92c7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1139&height=442

[shadow aurora]

!!!!!?!???!??

[mighty anvil]

Whats a good kantreal mk4 build

[woven olive]

what blessings you use and how often do you use it in the build have to consider what melee to use as well

i only ask because the mk 4 can fit into many builds but what you run with it can narrow down the best build

[umbral scaffold]

someone should faceapp morrow to smile

[mighty anvil]

Headhunter/Deadly Accurate
Rashad Axe

[woven olive]

was working on one while you went silent go ahead test it see where it needs adjusted

should overall fill your needs

[mighty anvil]

kk

ty

[woven olive]

if you use the rifle for all range countering you could swap for counter-fire but thats up to whether you really need to keep executioner stance up or not most dont have much issue

[mighty anvil]

it melts

[woven olive]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm goooooood

[umbral scaffold]

wish we had the melta

[woven olive]

wish we did

[mighty anvil]

i might swap off to VoC though

[woven olive]

understandable

[mighty anvil]

carapace enemies get smacked with the talent tree

[woven olive]

krak fire team and so on then? that way you should able to keep the lower tree mostly the same when going back through

[umbral scaffold]

hey i got that one, but maniac instead of carapace

run it with fullauto mod though, if that hardly matters, my hands hurt

[mighty anvil]

yeah im redownloading full auto

it feels clunky, but it's less painful then spam tap

[woven olive]

also with voice you could save a point for something else if you only grab duty and honour

maybe use the spare point for supcom

[mighty anvil]

hmm

full auto is a god send

[umbral scaffold]

i only use it for one family of guns and its the kantrels

[mighty anvil]

hellbore viable?

[serene ivy]

hellbore viable, yes
different playstyle
need dependable team and positioning or lil un get swarmed and killed

[tame lodge]

Helbore still winning

[serene ivy]

helbore very efficient

[austere mica]

100% ammo efficient if you play it right

[random pecan]

full auto doesnt work for hellbore for me?

it charges up the gun idk why

[tame lodge]

Because that's how helbores work

[serene ivy]

Can make so that shoot automatically at full charge

Not recommend

Want be able to hold charge for precision

[noble canyon]

You can toggle fullauto on/off with a keybind, fairly useful in certain cases.

[safe kelp]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

[safe kelp]

Is this build still viable?

[true umbra]

it's the one I use

[wraith perch]

Can't wait for Space Marine 2, the more I get fk-ed by RNG the more I want to be gone, sorry for the salt:

Now broke again

[supple stag]

Ah yes, the leg crippling Mk. VI Power Sword

[thick wolf]

your legs are not ok

[sleek garden]

my advice is to just use the stuff you have and not think about buying stuff for a bit

i did that for a while and ended up with millions and millions of ordo dockets and 100k of the materials

[woeful ibex]

Ironically sire melk have some decent offerings but thats just rare times

[wraith perch]

Currencies in this game are a joke:

Melk rarely has anything good

[thick wolf]

stunstick + hatred of dogs

[wraith perch]

I feel like this game should stop j3rk1ng you off with low rating when you are Lv30, like just put a cap that you don't get stuff under 350 rating at that point

And rework some of the useless perks/modifiers/blessings, they are a waste of time, they are just there to grief

Artificial time sinks, which add nothing but grief, years after years of just not adding anything hoping the average idiot chases after unicorns because all you get is artificial time sink

Should I change anything here?

Elite damage by crit chance for example? would that have synergy with deadly accurate?

[pseudo fiber]

Elite is good on bolt pistol

I'd leave it as is for now tbh

[wraith perch]

Explain to me a bit "Critical weak spot damage", you hit weak spot, then crit chance needs to roll?

but 8% is probably more than extra 100% crit damage for crit damage modifier been kind of garbage on this game?

[pseudo fiber]

Someone explained it quite well here let me find it

#veteran-class message

This is about the bolter not the bolt pistol but

[wraith perch]

so +100% crit damage means like an extra 20% damage total? 😂

[pseudo fiber]

Depends on the bolt pistols finesse

[wraith perch]

gets bitten by a 2nd dog because of hating of one dog, just parry bro 😉

[wraith perch]

Reminds me of #veteran-class message

[stuck solstice]

Better off hitting these heretics with a butter knife

[earnest bone]

Basically yes

so it's not worth to use without Surgical

(100% crit ez)

[wraith perch]

so for this case, is it worth it or just keep 8% elite? #veteran-class message

[earnest bone]

Well, can't say since i never tried it seriously, for weapons like this these perks matters when you can reach oneshot or twoshot and that's need to be tested if there's no info. You don't have a choice, so replace Execution with Surgical

[jovial meadow]

Which Helbore is well better 1, 2 or 3?

[wraith perch]

I was also looking (in the absence of any other guide for bolt pistol) to the Psyker atheneum which updated it, is there any merit on this for veteran?

[lusty sapphire]

No

We have on demand 100% crit with ws

Deadly accurate is our bis

[wraith perch]

yeah make sense

[uncut pebble]

Unironically, crafting update might save the mobility.

[earnest bone]

we dont know what will happen to old weapons though

[uncut pebble]

Hence the "might" part.

[earnest bone]

sadly, not holding any hopes on this

https://tenor.com/view/castaway-nod-gif-17453642465845210939

[uncut pebble]

There's a specific niche you can do with bolt pistol, run deadly accurate and puncture with weapon spec.

[wraith perch]

Sadly also, that will be for 2025 because I will at least burn 3 months on SM2 until I get burned out

[earnest bone]

and if you dont plan to use WS, it's Surgical

[uncut pebble]

Guarantee yourself a crit with weapon spec, swap, headshot, get free bleed stacks.

[woven olive]

wouldnt it be funny if they delete all our gear and give us starting stuff from the start because they break the loot system that much lol

[uncut pebble]

But yeah, otherwise, the only other two setups are deadly accurate + surgical and puncture + lethal proximity.

[earnest bone]

Deleting the gear would destroy this game online to 0, that's why they go with this

[zenith helm]

good or sht?

[earnest bone]

good

Falter -> Skullcrusher
Crit chance -> Flak

[uncut pebble]

Good. Crit chance to maniac, falter to skullcrusher.

Bonk heretics.

[zenith helm]

ty

[lusty sapphire]

I would legit drop everything lol

1k h down the drain?

Fuck no

[earnest bone]

they kinda did this with Vermintide 2

and red gear

[uncut pebble]

I would honestly be fine with that if I was compensated with something.

[earnest bone]

you could get orange gear to red gear in quality

[uncut pebble]

Like a bunch of aquilas.

[earnest bone]

but that's nearly impossible

too much casino

so all orange gear is dropped in VT2

as soon as you get Red items

they have maximum rolls

everywhere

[wraith perch]

WS = Weapon Specialist?

[uncut pebble]

Yes.

[earnest bone]

yes

[uncut pebble]

Time to run pickgryn with the spiciest rock.

[earnest bone]

for example

[wraith perch]

Care to share a build, I like to melee a lot, initially I was thinking on a build for hybrid melee + bolter but end up going for this:

[earnest bone]

our gear reset could happen if they raise level cap from 30 to 35

and then raise maximum ilvl

[uncut pebble]

More levels...

[earnest bone]

together with that from 380 to lets say 450

[uncut pebble]

More freedom for talents...

[lusty sapphire]

1 page of cosmetics worth of aquilas (for each character)

[woven olive]

extra tree.... mmmmmmmmmm

[earnest bone]

i would kill millions of heretics for extra 5 points

so many utility stuff you can take

on both vet and zealot

[lusty sapphire]

What difficulty could they bring to justify that lol. With current gear even with pubs you can sometimes carry

[strange crow]

I mean in VT2 the last 5 levels just increased chances of getting better items in drops, they didn’t give extra talent points

[earnest bone]

Maelstrom +

Maelstrom Extreme

[woven olive]

imagine if they changed curios around so they worked like class mods from BL mmmm free perk specs

[lusty sapphire]

Unironically tho I'm looking forward to some other enemy type

Maybe a plaguebearer

[earnest bone]

curios are fine i think, they present you with a lot of choices that each player decide for himself, be it extra +1 wound

or HP or Toughness

or $$$$$

[lusty sapphire]

The most important one

Legit if one of my top tier curios gets hp and toughness by default I'm changing the 3rd perk to ordos

[earnest bone]

i want Orcs adsagjajgfjgdjgjdfgdjg melee brawls, but with those indeed i don't want to fight endless Gretchin hordes

[woven olive]

wish we got a plasteel mod for curios cant get enough them tbh

[lusty sapphire]

Melk shop gambling

Shit

But better than 2 options per h

[wraith perch]

@earnest bone something like this?

[lusty sapphire]

What's this for?

Weapons I mean

[wraith perch]

Chain sword + bolt pistol for now, planning to use a force sword

[zenith helm]

Thoughts?

[lusty sapphire]

Get rid of red and get the 2 green talents

[earnest bone]

i always take

[lusty sapphire]

Cdr is too strong on shout not to take it

[earnest bone]

75% toughness bonus

it lets you face tank sniper once with 0 HP damage

so get 1 more points somewhere

and take it

[wraith perch]

nice, I like it

[earnest bone]

(2 other points are from red circles)

[wraith perch]

I can feel its power 😂

[earnest bone]

cdr is insane value when you carry

when pugs are bad i get shout cd reset

non stop

[zenith helm]

Guys is it ever possible to single tap crushers with the zarona?

[earnest bone]

which in the end help pugs with survival

[earnest bone]

yes

but with stance + other stuff

and on headshot

[zenith helm]

without stance?

2 tap?

[gilded wraith]

Definitely slows down as the group improves

[earnest bone]

without stance yeah

[zenith helm]

im only able to do 3tap

[lusty sapphire]

I suggest this as a very solid build

[zenith helm]

with this one

[wraith perch]

get rid of the one in the right side (5% crit chance) for iron will?

[earnest bone]

my inner dps goblin would drop 2 points from WS and put them into 10% melee damage + agile engagement

i just love it

[earnest bone]

if you are using WS, drop 5% crit chance (for bolt pistol)

[lusty sapphire]

Drop demo and lower stam regen startup for it but I don't think he'll make that much use of it

I'd rather he has stamina and lots of kraks

[earnest bone]

i'd wish agile engagement

was zealot talent

it fits much better

[zenith helm]

what blessings are best on the zarona for 2 tapping crushers?

[earnest bone]

for blessing you dont choose there, it's Handcannon + Surgical

[lusty sapphire]

I kinda like gloryhunter surg. On zarona sometimes

Or gloryhunter+handcannon on ws

[earnest bone]

well he specifically wish for crushers to die

[lusty sapphire]

Don't we all

[earnest bone]

we dont when its scab melee

https://tenor.com/view/kyoshi-gif-25351466

[lusty sapphire]

What do you mean away

[wraith perch]

Never 😂

[earnest bone]

if they dont buff hammer after crafting rework, i'l be sad

[wraith perch]

I don't, not even with my Psyker because I'm cool

https://tenor.com/b0RZA.gif

[earnest bone]

speaking of

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1272201417481916448/image.png?ex=66ba1d66&is=66b8cbe6&hm=58cc8a5b464437432965ef1e3899400ef3029fe1fabbff1240ea1f604b18159f&

[lusty sapphire]

Omw

What a great present coming from work

[wraith perch]

I'll be chill, but they need to fix the bolt pistol ADS, it triggers my OCD

I'm a head clicker kind of guy, that shit angle messes up follow up shots

[earnest bone]

i'm sure they will

eventually

right?
RIGHT?

[wraith perch]

it depends, the one that designed it may know nothing about shooting IRL and how the brain works

TL&DR; IS BAD, MEGABAD, ULTRAMEGAHYPERBAD

even shooting in video games, the brain needs the horizon imaginary line defined

The double barrel is amazing though, specially on my Zealot with indignatus crusher

[uncut pebble]

Frankly, I think that sway should be removed entirely.

This is a horde game, why do I have to have scope sway?

Bolt pistol has it, bolter has it, the fucking helbore has it.

It's just not necessary. The only thing it serves is to be annoying.

On another note there was a psyker in my damnation match that only had 26 kills.

[wraith perch]

is a difficulty modifier in a way, but I'd consider not gameplay breaking

[uncut pebble]

It's not even a difficulty modifier, either. It's just silly.

[radiant chasm]

Because ranged vs ranged combat mechanics and also just the constant need for realismish graphics

[wraith perch]

your brain will auto counter sway, but I doubt it can realign the horizon imaginary line when aiming several elite heads in succession

[uncut pebble]

I can undestand having flinch and suppression, that all makes sense.

But idle scope sway is just dumb.

[radiant chasm]

Design choices that aren’t realistic actually but will trick people into having it feel real

[fossil basalt]

oh shit is that up right now?

[earnest bone]

probably ended 16 mins ago

oh wait

46m

nvm

5 minutes left* +-

[idle dirge]

I feel like with shotguns (using the double barrel specifically but assuming it happens with the rest too) if a single bullet doesn't hit an enemy weakspot it won't show that it's a weakspot hit but will still do some extra damage, mostly apparent on monstrosities. Is that the case or am I just really bad at aiming

[terse idol]

Maybe conflicted but uhh,

It's to differentiate it from bolter and Las pistol

[slow spade]

got to post enough to get a red rank

try shitposting about how you found a recon build no one tried, you'll get red rank quickly 😎

[last parcel]

guess that recon build will remain a secret

[idle pecan]

lol

[tulip shoal]

anybody have advice for curios?

[idle pecan]

gunner res, sniper res, stamina regen (if you use deadshot or skirmisher) Sprint cost reduction (if you run skirmisher)

[tulip shoal]

ok thanks

[terse idol]

Well specifically, at least 1x sniper res.
(Some folks go for 3x gunner res)
Sprint cost reduction is good

[idle pecan]

personally i run 2 gunner res, 2 sniper res, 3 stam regen, and 2 sprint reduction

[terse idol]

3x health curio
Or you can do like 2x hp 1x toughness

If you're more new you can run 1x wound

[idle pecan]

i run 2hp 1 stam

i heavily lean into deadshot on my builds tho

[terse idol]

I'm unhinged and running 3x toughness

But I'm regretting it

[idle pecan]

a free 25% crit is insane

[terse idol]

Tox bombers actually whittle me down

[terse idol]

Well only to the crit chaiiinn

[idle pecan]

?

[terse idol]

Well like you know with automatic weapons when you crit you only crit so many shots right?

[idle pecan]

like 4 shots or smth right

[terse idol]

Yeah depending on the chain

[idle pecan]

i never understood how crit chains work in this game tbh

[terse idol]

I just aaiiint convinced with deadshot

[terse idol]

Basically whenever you crit with an automatic weapons depending on the crit chain that'll determine how many following shots will crit

[idle pecan]

can you crit after a crit chain?

or is there a cooldown

cooldown on crits would be wild

[slate hawk]

2x toughness 1x 3stam

[scarlet path]

Finally bit the bullet and modded darktide

[slate hawk]

I ride or die with 150 hp

[last parcel]

now install dracula flow daemonhost

this shit ain’t nothing to me

i fuck like it’s for survival

[dawn berry]

whats the best way to get on overwatch?

trying to run a malice mission and not get hit at all is abysmal

[last parcel]

#veteran-class message

i did it with voice of command

[idle pecan]

if you have another voc vet and a zealot running the same ability (i forget what its called)

and an ogryn running taunt

[wraith perch]

That WS build is making a Hugh Mongus difference 😂

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-flow-gif-11397934091367970523

i dont give a fuck if i go blind

[muted knot]

Pretty late

[scarlet path]

i dont need to see the price tag anyway

[lusty sapphire]

Ok now I wanna see how comparable exe stance is to gun psyker LMAO

This is the gun lmao

[faint beacon]

3 toughness on Veteran? actual madman

[last parcel]

born leader maxxing

[scarlet path]

Oh my god i downloaded the weapon customization mod and my god all of melks guns look goofy asf

[austere mica]

You can disable randomization in the mod config

[scarlet path]

Thanks lol

[austere mica]

I would actually recommend it, especially if you use addons

Randomly generating a shit ton of weapons every time you open a shop has a tendency to crash you

[thick wolf]

something something memory fuckery

[austere mica]

Also just certain part combos from addons just outright crashing you

[faint beacon]

I recall for the longest time the plasma barrels would just outright crash your game

literally randomly roll one and boom game go bye bye

[last parcel]

lmao

[idle swallow]

high level of green aesthetic

[faint beacon]

Green Army Man level of Aesthetic

[scarlet path]

I really wish i got the green pot helm while it was in the shop

Only got the regular black one that came with the Steel Legion set

So...

I turned my bolt pistol into a PDW

[last parcel]

[noble zinc]

Not too sure how to feel about the double barrel. Kinda just feels like a worse kickback?

[austere mica]

Seen worse

[austere mica]

Kickback can't get infinite cleave

[scarlet path]

I was actively trying to make it look "good" like it being an actual functional weapon

I could go full cursed if i want

[austere mica]

I think you failed

quite miserable at that

[thick wolf]

my god what is this

[scarlet path]

[austere mica]

And you didn't even give it a reflex sight or something

Main reason I have that mod

[scarlet path]

FUCK I FORGOT

thankls

[austere mica]

Or the goofy ass 8x scope that serves no purpose

Magnified optics aren't necassary, or even good for this game

[scarlet path]

game crashed when i tried to put a scope on it kek

[noble zinc]

Kickback can kill snipers

Should've just given use a long barreled mark and a short barreled mark

[thick wolf]

the fact that double barrels still exist in 40k

[scarlet path]

Does anyone else have that problem where whenever you exit darktide on steam it still says its running? Clicking stop applications doesnt make it stop either

[thick wolf]

what's next, M1911-type sidearms

[noble zinc]

I mean, I'd say the hand loaded revolver is more obscene lol.

[austere mica]

Currently I think double barrel works best with Weapon Specialist

[austere mica]

Still exists

[thick wolf]

oh goddamn it

[noble zinc]

Yeah, you can't really get focus stacks with it.

[thick wolf]

of course

[last parcel]

maybe like once every few months

[scarlet path]

The universe where melee combat is still the primary method of war, and that surprised you?

[noble zinc]

And weapon specialist works best with small mags.

[inland orchid]

If that happens for me I use task manager to vaporize it

[austere mica]

Not even a joke ask in lore chat they will find the image for you

[scarlet path]

Yeah but in task manager Darktide IS closed and shut down but steam wont stop register it as running

Weird

[noble zinc]

https://preview.redd.it/even-in-the-far-future-you-cant-escape-the-1911-v0-y2pqxy34rqkb1.png?auto=webp&s=0d03f68edbc13029908fc6a11a5dacc3c24dd11c

[inland orchid]

Shut down steam then, it’ll get darktide eventually

[scarlet path]

^ thats what i have been doing

[thick wolf]

oh right, I shouldn't be surprised by anything

[scarlet path]

Was hoping someone might have a fix

[thick wolf]

remind me to stop talking for several days

[scarlet path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382059818690805763/1183244068814340139/freeze.gif?ex=6587a0e9&is=65752be9&hm=742205bdb142b276bc7a1a6cf97807a344a3f5238101677d308e64c9b2880940&

[noble zinc]

I also wonder how long we'll have to wait for a scavenger aura with a cooldown that isn't pathetic.

[inland orchid]

Get urself a time traveling machine and go to the past

That’s the only way we gonna get old scav aura back

[noble zinc]

All they had to do was to give it like a 1s cooldown so that mowing down an entire shotgunner spawn doesn't refill your reserves completely.

[inland orchid]

Considerin pox hound hordes exist too, I can see why scav got shafted

Situations like that legit filled a fuck ton of the squad’s ammo

[noble zinc]

I just used the example that spawns on any mission type.

But ye

[austere mica]

Current scavenger is fine, you just can't empty mags into hordes 24/7 anymore

[inland orchid]

Both examples work cuz they both proc scav

[noble zinc]

Nah, current scavenger punishes you for using less effective weapons whilst all of the amazing weapons have insanely good ammo pools.

[empty lily]

imagine nerfing the weakest class

[inland orchid]

No need to worry bout the details when we’re both saying the same thing example wise

[inland orchid]

Mfw I still have ammo left on my plasma (I feel lied to)

[austere mica]

What is less effective weapons, headhunters?

[noble zinc]

Mhm!

[austere mica]

Because thats literally all I can think of

Also maybe brautos, haven't run one

[empty lily]

my argument against the scav nerf is just, psyker

[noble zinc]

I'd say bolters and headhunters. And then a whole bunch of weapons on other classes.

[empty lily]

infinite ammo is an issue? and psyker isn't an issue because?

[austere mica]

Bolter did kind fine (I think) and Bistol is still good for ammo economy

[noble zinc]

Well, the argument would be that 4 psykers isn't desireable.

[austere mica]

But other classes having issues without survivalist is fine

They aren't designed to constantly magdump

[noble zinc]

And psykers have peril management.

[empty lily]

peril is a buff, and very easy to manage

[noble zinc]

Still, you can't be shooting nonstop because of it.

[frank basin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/896377332233801768/1271998717943222344/rapidsave.com_precisely-8ipa19u3ugia1.mov?ex=66ba095e&is=66b8b7de&hm=14c08b64e3b9d5b5bacfc4b15a7cc6eca44f01be9bd02e9f5e8aaf16eed758de&

[empty lily]

reloading takes longer than pressing quell for 0.5 seconds

[inland orchid]

how my psyker be lookin mentally brain burst spaming a monstrosity

[austere mica]

Opening my plasma ps build to do some penances then realizing it looks like this with 3 points missing

God I hate this ability

[inland orchid]

the keystone or the shout?

[austere mica]

Shout

Keystone is fine ish but way less interesting than the other two

I have beef with middle tree

[supple stag]

Weapon Spec my beloved

[empty lily]

yall mfs use keystones?

[inland orchid]

fair doesnt give much on the side of offense other than on command stagger without the modifer node

[empty lily]

also shout is top tier

[austere mica]

I have one (1) keystoneless build

[austere mica]

Its also boringly strong

I press a button and I am indestrucible for like 15 seconds

even bursterproof

[empty lily]

as god intended

[supple stag]

I like Infiltrate

[safe kelp]

Wait, what is this mask? Is it from the shop?

[austere mica]

Yeah but I could be having fun with infiltrate or exe stance

[austere mica]

Its one of the old steel legion helmets

[supple stag]

Commodore's stuff sadly

but oh well

[safe kelp]

Ah shit

Can't even react with a gif yet

[inland orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/stk-oryx-angry-attack-shooting-gif-14743692857575838126

soon u will

[supple stag]

You'll get to it

[empty lily]

average pub ogryn

[supple stag]

I had it easier, gotta love starting from Verm

[safe kelp]

I tried vermentide 2 once
Don't think it's exactly my cup of tea (especially because of the amount of DLC's)

[tall torrent]

Yea they’re good

[empty lily]

heresy

[scarlet path]

I really wish Darktide's cosmetics worked like how they did in vermintide

[tall torrent]

What keystone is bad

[scarlet path]

Just a big list of all the shit they released that you can buy at any time

[supple stag]

MF

[scarlet path]

Instead of the stupid "Fear of missing out" system the darktide shop has

[empty lily]

its not that any one keystone is bad, they're just not very impactful. you can take a lot of very good individual nodes instead

which in my opinion is stronger

[inland orchid]

i was just on verm 2, some nerds kicked me from their weekly pilgrimage when there was only 2 people

[tall torrent]

It’s the least intuitive one but hits very high damage

[safe kelp]

I really wish Darktide would add the full commissar set
That coat is just way too good

[inland orchid]

mustve needed the bots

[tall torrent]

Which talents

[supple stag]

I'm not a fan of it, mainly because how I play Vet really

Aka heavy melee focus

[scarlet path]

I thought they did, its like a commisar coat with a black flak vest underneath

the legs looked like the armageddon steel legion legs but black and it had a red cap

[tall torrent]

That’s fair, doesn’t mean it’s not worth using ever

There’re very few talents in vet tree that actually compete with keystone in terms of power/investment

[scarlet path]

or were those all seperate cosmetics people put together

[safe kelp]

I mean not in this stupid rotation shop
Commissar outfit is something you need to achieve, I think

[supple stag]

Commissar set was in rotation long time ago, before I even started playing DT

so eh

sucks to join late

[scarlet path]

I have armor on my zealot that hasnt been in the rotation since before Brunt's Armory came out...

[supple stag]

Gotta wait for the rotation, one day

[empty lily]

precision strike, fully loaded, superiority complex, iron will, bring it down, reciprocity, onslaught, desperado, tactical awareness, demo stockpile, longshot

to name a few

[tall torrent]

Show a build where u don’t get to grab a majority of these while using keystone

Also longshot got nerfed, not worth taking anymore

[empty lily]

it is, absolutely still worth

[tall torrent]

Do u know what it does rn

[supple stag]

[tall torrent]

Putting onslaught in that list is also a pretty big misjudgement when it only really benefits like 3 guns (2 mainly and only against 1 enemy)

[supple stag]

onslaught is pretty xd

[empty lily]

?

[safe kelp]

Even if there was a super cool coat
I won't buy any cosmetics from this crappy rotation system

YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAA

[empty lily]

onslaught on any fast firing weapon is completely broken

[safe kelp]

I got privileges to send photos by complaining enough!

[tall torrent]

There’re like 4 of them and only 2 get to use it properly and even still onslaught only really matters for 1 enemy

[last parcel]

darktide.jpg

[tall torrent]

That’s some serious commitment just to magdump crusher

[supple stag]

while you can remove him in more effecient ways

[empty lily]

okay 👍

[tall torrent]

what about longshot

Do u know what it actually does rn

[empty lily]

its a longshot that im going to continue this conversation, have a nice day

[last parcel]

i have longshot on my bookshelf

[supple stag]

Darktide pub player behavior, leave once a difficulty spike arrives (question about what a skill does)

[tall torrent]

Don’t give him crap abt it he at least knew some of the important talents on veteran

That puts him at like

Above 80% of gameslantern builds

[empty lily]

counterpoint: you enjoy inflitrate

[supple stag]

Yeah and?

Infiltrate's fun

[last parcel]

fun is not allowed

face the wall

[tall torrent]

he ran out of ideas

[supple stag]

Try to catch me

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grab-gif-25679138

[midnight totem]

Easy

[faint beacon]

damn mfer just snatched that cat

[midnight totem]

I infiltrate too

[faint beacon]

Yeah okay but do you twinned blast smoke

[supple stag]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-where-the-fun-begins-star-wars-anakin-sassy-excited-gif-4830492

[midnight totem]

I am the smoke

[last parcel]

i am the one who knocks on the door

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/law-police-judge-cop-dredd-gif-8606130

[supple stag]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-am-batman-im-batman-batman-the-animated-series-gif-22097820

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/whendadfnidslitter-ferrett-blanket-ferrett-sleep-frettchen-gif-22406370

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/irWo2Ru4NCYBbBcvq/d1337Sn2sbdg?invite=cr-MSxnUGksMTA3NDAxNTczLA

@midnight totem Anywhere but Auric QP

Im still in disbelief this guy ran this

[supple stag]

Auric QP is truly a wild place

Or freaky, you could say

[scarlet path]

Behold, a boltgun that you can actually shoulder

Unheardof in the 40k universe

[supple stag]

[tall torrent]

DT Boltgun’s bolt carrier group exits the “stock” of the gun when firing

So the stock would move alongside and go into ur character’s shoulder

[fast sundial]

i see vet chat is having a normal one tonight

[wraith perch]

https://tenor.com/bxhgQ.gif

Fixed, Karl Urban was the better Dredd 😉

[supple stag]

Best place in the whole DT server

Maybe art channel beats it

[midnight totem]

He was but I respect Stallone

He law'd so Urban could law

[faint beacon]

Evil fucked up Helbore I made, just a glimpse into my dark twisted mind

[scarlet path]

Right now a Krieger is crying uncontrollably in a corner and he doesnt know why

[dreamy spade]

Does the ammo crate talent apply to all crates dropped

You can literally throw 12 ogyrn bombs in a row

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

[dreamy spade]

24 actually

[austere mica]

Field improv applies to everything put down, yes

[dreamy spade]

That's so op for ogyrns

2 monstrosities and a horde of ragers? No problem

Ogyrns need a vet with survivalist and field improv

[last parcel]

oh hey it's my helbore's older brotherf

[faint beacon]

Evil fucked up Helbore

[viscid snow]

ngl the vets my favorite melee class

[fast sundial]

is it because of voc and power sword

[last parcel]

pee gang

[viscid snow]

no

I don't like power sword

[supple stag]

what melee then, my fellow Vet

[viscid snow]

I like the chainsword and the

I forget

[faint beacon]

I use Rashad with Agri IX

[safe kelp]

Man, I wish that high-level Veteran had unique voice lines where he actually cares about his team. As far as I know, ogryns, psykers and zealots have voice lines about family, but not veteran

[empty lily]

the only melee weapon

[viscid snow]

I need a good shovel

I'm not 30 yet tho

[last parcel]

you'll get it when you're older

[viscid snow]

lmaoo

[scarlet path]

Drippy long barrel recon

Also

[faint beacon]

And im done with all titles

[scarlet path]

It urks me that this chest piece is just ever so slightly darker than the scion helm and the heavy militarum pants

FATSHARK WHY

also the camo

[radiant chasm]

what perks for the double barrel (not on veteran specifically, using it as a sidearm)

[austere mica]

Shotguns aren't great at breakpoints so probably good old flakiac

[lusty sapphire]

Flak maniac for ragers and mauler oneshots

[faint beacon]

Flakiac usually, you mainly want maniac

Uniac could work as well if you want to mix it up but I'd say worry the most about Maniac

[umbral scaffold]

what does longshot do im new and still familiarizing myself with the talent tree

low key idk where that node even is but im about to have a look at my talents again on my break

[slate hawk]

Love me shovel bonk

[viscid snow]

it the game wasn't spam crashing I'd work on my vet more

[tall torrent]

When ur ranged weapon is in-hand, increase damage from 12.5 to 30m

In 0~12.5m, it does nothing

Between 12.5~30m, it linearly increases from +0% to +20%, and stays at +20% after 30m

[umbral scaffold]

ah ok i hate conditional talents like that

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/shovel-gif-21825630

[umbral scaffold]

thanks for lmk

[scarlet path]

Shovel lowkey being the best weapon

[tall torrent]

The reason it’s not good anymore is because for longshot’s +damage to reach meaningful 1 tap breakpoints on weapons, you’d need to be quite far from them

And it’s just not consistent anymore

[serene bough]

has it ever been consistent

i dont recall longshot ever meaningfully reaching breakpoints

[slate hawk]

That would be better than the PG on emperor

[tall torrent]

Pre-change it was decently consistent

[tall torrent]

It allowed u to run WS plasma and still get 1 tap breakpoints with longshot

[serene bough]

ah okay

[tall torrent]

Now if u want to run WS plasma u need both ranged damage nodes, precision strikes, superiority complex & fire team

Longshot won’t get u that breakpoint anymore

So it’s just not worth picking

[slate hawk]

Longshot is just more damage the further the target us away right?

[serene bough]

ye

[tall torrent]

Yes but +damage doesn’t always mean u should take it

[serene bough]

i take in my iLas build bc pathing purposes but i dont rely on it for steady breakpoint changes

[tall torrent]

The +damage needs to meaningfully help u kill things faster to matter

[slate hawk]

Oh I know, just wanted to make sure I remembered what it did lol

[tall torrent]

Longshot is the worst starting talent so far

[severe gale]

path

[tall torrent]

Both close order and vanguard are better

[severe gale]

what hellbore should i mkae

make

ive asked this before but i forgot what i decided on

[tall torrent]

Mk2

[severe gale]

ok pawesome

surgical weight of fire?

[slate hawk]

I also reject keystones

On vet

[tall torrent]

U shouldn’t tbh

[slate hawk]

Too point hungry

[lusty sapphire]

Ws is such a good keystone

[tall torrent]

There’re very few talents worth taking more than keystones

[severe gale]

hows this

its one ive had for like

a year lmfao

[tall torrent]

That +2 stam is just

[lusty sapphire]

Ugh

[severe gale]

lmfao

u dont get it

im gonna be pushing a lot with it

[tall torrent]

Then u take smth else over Helbore tbh

[severe gale]

if i remember right the other perk was groaners

[tall torrent]

No, unarmored

[severe gale]

nono the bayonet helps with the shove

[slate hawk]

This is true, if I had a free point I'd probably take it

[severe gale]

ha

[tall torrent]

U do, drop field improv

[severe gale]

huh*

[tall torrent]

Dreg Gunner 1 tap breakpoint

[slate hawk]

No, the utility is too good to pass up

[tall torrent]

Ok drop survivalist then

And field improv is good but not that good

It only rly matters in orthus offensive

[slate hawk]

Extra grenades for myself, and the whole team

[lusty sapphire]

You already have both demo and regen

You don't lack nades lmao

[tall torrent]

What weapons are u using with this build

[lusty sapphire]

You could spam them every horde and you still wouldn't lack nades

[slate hawk]

A vet should never lack grenades

PG and shovel

Mk 3 shovel

[tall torrent]

Drop reciprocity for close quarters Killzone

And honestly on plasma u don’t even need that many grenade regen

Ur build looks like it’s trying to do a bit of everything but is lacking just a little in every aspect

Ur plasma doesn’t hit 1 tap breakpoints

[lusty sapphire]

Without tinkerer bleed nades are more of a spacing tool

[severe gale]

50 helbores and only one was above 360

:(

[tall torrent]

Plasma really wants focus target which is a 2 point cost

So u rly have to drop smth else

Ur going for everything and end up getting just short of good on everything

Plasma wants 1 tap breakpoints which u don’t have

Grenadier build wants lethal prox & grenade tinkerer which u don’t have

[slate hawk]

1 tapping what specifically?

[tall torrent]

Gunner & flamer

[severe gale]

holy peak

[tall torrent]

Nice congrats

[severe gale]

my reward for spending 500k on it lmfao

crit damage to flak and no respite to surgical?

[tall torrent]

Crit damage to maniac, no respite to surgical

[severe gale]

ah

kk

thanks

[tall torrent]

Flak doesn’t matter much for hb2

U get higher mauler bodyshot dps

[severe gale]

is maniac for flamer one shot

[tall torrent]

That’s abt it

[severe gale]

lmfao

fair

[tall torrent]

Maniac gives u flamer crit 1HS

[severe gale]

pawesome

[tall torrent]

And allows ur bayonet to 2 tap mutant

[severe gale]

do i run this with exec stance

[tall torrent]

No

U run it with melee centric build & focus target

[severe gale]

if i wanted an exec stance hellbore would i run mk3

[tall torrent]

Helbore has no benefit from WS

[tall torrent]

Sure but mk3 is very unwieldy lol

[severe gale]

yah i know

i just want a fun exec stance build

[tall torrent]

Columnus mk5 with exe & MF

U deal so much damage gun psyker gets jealous

[grand perch]

lethal proximity? the bpistol blessing?

[severe gale]

i dont want 2 run columnus anymore......

[tall torrent]

Yea it buffs all explosion radius

[severe gale]

ive had enough of it with psyker

[grand perch]

oh cool

[tall torrent]

So u get frags with 15m blast radius

[severe gale]

oh thats insane lmfao

[tall torrent]

707pi m^2 area

[lusty sapphire]

Kinda crazy tho how much dmg the witchcraft class can do with a gun

[grand perch]

we be cosplaying ogryns with that kinda radius

[tall torrent]

All good mages must first be proficient in dishing out blunt force trauma

[severe gale]

i mean the witchcraft class can also deal insane damage with a staff

psyker can deal absurd damage overall

[tall torrent]

It’s better than ogryn nuke

[severe gale]

except to bosses

[tall torrent]

It’s essentially ogryn nuke but u can do it every minute

[lusty sapphire]

Yeah but even to bosses lol

[grand perch]

ill never not be surprised what the spaghetti code can achieve

[lusty sapphire]

It regens, it stuns, it bleeds

[severe gale]

no

[severe gale]

i meant in reference to this

[lusty sapphire]

Ah I see

[tall torrent]

If u wanted to do a grenadier build this is what I’d go with

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185515538475134998/1270955435918229636/Screenshot_2024-08-08_000257.png?ex=66ba323d&is=66b8e0bd&hm=ecd37b23392be3477d31800e68c69a46ab9ad4ad4f19cb22b6903b06beb815f6&

Power sword (PC4 + BM/sunder) + boltpistol (run&gun + lethal prox)

It actually performs extremely well

Gale played with it for a few games and consistently had highest damage

[lusty sapphire]

Ps and nades carrying

[tall torrent]

Mainly grenades

[lusty sapphire]

Do you need to have boltpistol out to get the increased range?

[tall torrent]

Yes

But the fuse time is just enough for u to draw boltpistol

So it’s not a problem

[lusty sapphire]

Even if I forget tbf it doesn't matter much

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqGCGDCXQhNHx5O-p/d13371cs1HRz?invite=cr-MSx5NTMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[tall torrent]

And you’ll get twinned blast procs from time to time

[faint beacon]

@lusty sapphire

[severe gale]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/irwmFbAXZ7BXw3I3t/d1337GJsi85L?invite=cr-MSxHYngsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[tall torrent]

Everything short of ogryns & bosses will die

And u can do it every minute

Rager spam will simply disappear

[faint beacon]

Horde clear every minute

[lusty sapphire]

I remember, I just forgot about needing to actually have the gun out

[faint beacon]

its so fucking stupid

that or get lucky

with Demo Team

and get even more frags

[lusty sapphire]

With how many elites and specials are there in aurics

[faint beacon]

Oh yeah no

ran it in Auric

it seems like a joke

but its genuinely Auric maybe even Mael viable

[deep fable]

have they revealed any plans to expand the level cap

[tall torrent]

It’s just very strong

[lusty sapphire]

I honestly think demo team nets you nades more easily than nade regen lol

[tall torrent]

It’s like Psyker’s smite except u actually play the game while wiping everything

[faint beacon]

Plus Demo stockpile just in case your RNG is super shit during the match

guaranteed a frag every minute

[tall torrent]

There were cases where

[faint beacon]

Veteran's Smite except its not annoying for the team

[tall torrent]

Me (playing ogryn) bonked 3 ragers and his frag went back to full

[faint beacon]

[lusty sapphire]

You know what would be very funny guys

4 vets

Demo build

[severe gale]

any competent build is mael viable lol

[tall torrent]

He means like a top tier build

I think this is a very top tier build

[severe gale]

ah

fair

i should try it eventually

[tall torrent]

Might be top 5 strongest vet builds

[severe gale]

i have so many things 2 try

whats number 1

[tall torrent]

Zarona Rashad weapon specialist

[severe gale]

VOC ps6 WS?

[faint beacon]

I still cant get over the fact this was a joke

[severe gale]

ah

[faint beacon]

a fucking joke

[severe gale]

i forget the rashad exists because i dont like it

[faint beacon]

and it ended up being extremely strong

[tall torrent]

PS6 is overall not as good as Rashad in a melee centric build

[severe gale]

yah i know

rashad is boring though

[tall torrent]

[grand perch]

Hold on a minute

[severe gale]

this but kraks and that clip i posted

[grand perch]

What about kraks and smoke? Do they get increased radius too?

[lusty sapphire]

Yes

[severe gale]

lmfao

awesome

[tall torrent]

Krak yes but doesn’t matter much

Smoke idk

It’s only relevant for frags because u spread bleed in a way bigger radius

It’s 2.25x of the base frag’s area

[grand perch]

I was hoping you could delete entire armour waves with extended range kraks

[tall torrent]

No but this build can delete maulers

[lusty sapphire]

Honestly it could be very good in melee only

[unique helm]

What is this catachan knife I got good for

[lusty sapphire]

When 10000 crushers are all bunched up

[tall torrent]

It is very good in scab melee only

[unique helm]

Is it a single target weapon

[lusty sapphire]

Yes

[unique helm]

Gotcha

[faint beacon]

Call me a methhead but I kinda like these Irons

[unique helm]

I'm having a hard time dealing with guys with plate

[faint beacon]

Carapace?

[unique helm]

Sad times

[unique helm]

Sure

[faint beacon]

Carapace are just prone to be tanky

[unique helm]

If it has a helmet

[faint beacon]

If its Maulers (Chainaxe weilders)

just aim for their chest

thats the weaker of the armor types

[unique helm]

Isn't there a weak spot guide?

[faint beacon]

Yes I'll have to dig it up though

super fucking old iirc

[tall torrent]

For knife specifically, u need to hit head

For every enemy

[wraith perch]

Bolt pistol and double barrel deal nicely with them

[severe gale]

does ruthless backstab give rending when ur behind an enemy or only specifically when u hit them while behind them

[lusty sapphire]

Double barrel dealing with carapace?

[severe gale]

like

[tall torrent]

Only when u hit them while ur behind them

[severe gale]

if i have bleed stacks and go behind a crusher will it ignore their armor

ah

sad

[faint beacon]

This is a summary image for armor values on Scab Maulers if they're giving you issues

Basically aim anywhere that isn't the head

[tall torrent]

@unique helm

[faint beacon]

head has Carapace

[unique helm]

Still leveling atm

[unique helm]

Where can I find the rest just for reference ( other enemies

[lusty sapphire]

https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4

[unique helm]

Thanks homies

[wraith perch]

I think it does well, I will have to re-observe on my Zealot to confirm

[tall torrent]

It’s not good on carapace

[lusty sapphire]

It really doesn't. It stuns them but it doesn't

[unique helm]

What does unyielding mean

[wraith perch]

super big guys and bosses

[lusty sapphire]

The type of armour an enemy has

Like flak, maniac, unarmoured

[unique helm]

So for scab you always go for the arms and legs?

[wraith perch]

aren't crushers unyielding with caparace?

[lusty sapphire]

Unyielding enemies are ogryn enemies with uncovered skin and bosses

[severe gale]

no just headshot them

[faint beacon]

Unyielding is Bosses or usually Ogryn types (Minus Crushers cause they're carapace)

[unique helm]

Why? The guide says they don't wear armor there

[faint beacon]

Sadly no they're 100% Carapace

[lusty sapphire]

Technically yes but there's no point in saying unyielding for them

[empty lily]

she unyield on my carapace til i crush

[severe gale]

weakspot bonus

and its just not worth aiming there

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574

[severe gale]

not worth the effort when you can just headshot them once or twice and be done with it

[unique helm]

I don't see where it says that's the weakspot

[wraith perch]

so Ogryns without the caparace armor like the big gunners for example? (and bosses)

[tall torrent]

No, head

[severe gale]

heads are weakspots

[tall torrent]

No, full carapace

[empty lily]

no head?

[unique helm]

Yes but I do know that doesn't carry for all enemies so I just want to see where each one is

[tall torrent]

What are u talking abt?

[empty lily]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-angry-break-gif-19098093

[faint beacon]

Bosses, Bulwarks and Reapers, you are correct

[lusty sapphire]

Yes but not all of it. Torso has flak and bracers have carapace

[faint beacon]

If its not a crusher then its Unyeilding Ogryn wise

[severe gale]

all enemies (except beast of nurgle) have a head weakspot modifier, including maulers, just maulers have carapace on their head so a majority of weapons will deal more damage to a mauler's body instead of their head

[unique helm]

Thanks

[faint beacon]

There's little spots on both Bulwarks and Reapers where they have Flak and Cara but they're small portions

very easy to avoid

[severe gale]

the weapons that its better to aim for a mauler's head with are weapons like the ps6, duelling sword, and weapons with high armor pen overall

[austere mica]

Knife

[severe gale]

oh and yeah uncanny weapons