veteran-class

[fluid escarp]

Nah they still stagger too easily

[somber axle]

Right now you can literally 3 tap a Crusher with a Knife as Vet in under a second with how fast the funny push attack is

[fluid escarp]

Anything ogryn does rolls them over

[somber axle]

Power Sword Mk VI can charge push attack -> 1-2 light swings and kill them fast too

[fluid escarp]

Voc does too

Stagger that is

[torn gorge]

PS is faster for a single crusher

[somber axle]

I think they do ok for area denial because outside of Ogryn Bull Charge and Voice of Command you're not going to throw them out of your way

[torn gorge]

assuming you do not factor in charge time as downtime

[somber axle]

And if their role is just DPS check/area denial then that's fine but I wish they were more of a threat

[fluid escarp]

How about a literal wall

Now we just punch through

[somber axle]

You can also get a really funny 1HKO on Crushers with Knife if you damage stack with buffs but Power Sword Mk VI push attack can do a funny 1HKO with push attack too if you get a good roll

[fluid escarp]

Seeing someone get dunked stays funny af tho

[somber axle]

I think Crushers should get an additional 500 HP in lower difficulties and another 1000 HP in Damnation/Aurics

It wouldn't change much for individual Crushers but it would throw off current breakpoints

[radiant chasm]

People would complain so much lol

[somber axle]

Then crowds of them would take more time to kill

More effort

[radiant chasm]

“Smh fatshark ruining my fun by making me think about anti armor”

[torn gorge]

if you just raise crusher hp you are making knives better

doubt thats what you really want

[deft oriole]

What's everyones favorite Helbore MK?

[somber axle]

Unironically yes it is and not just to make weapons specialized against killing them more practical but also for non-standard builds to flourish to counter them

Shift up the meta because it's very stale

[somber axle]

Helbore Mk II but it has tricky breakpoints to consider

[hearty panther]

It kinda always was (and trigger discipline is relevant on any automatic to begin with) but at 20rps it's exceptionally difficult to be precise now lol

With Dumdum and + DMG to an armor type you're looking at 5 or 6 rounds to kill a shooter and even less with headshots. Try firing off 'just' four rounds from a Recon 6 with consistency. It's maddeningly impossible lmao

[frank ether]

Yeah it also doesnt have the most consistent recoil either

the gun kinda just has a random sway in either direction

[hearty panther]

Yeah and it has a lot of baked in spread now.

Well, more.

[frank ether]

yeah, a lot more

not enough to make me dislike the gun

but enough to make a lot of ammo deficiency in between small engagements

[hearty panther]

Nah, but it's deffo different. I use the II now instead since the 6 is occupying a new role of being some sort of light machine gun.

[frank ether]

2 is a lot easierr to conserve ammo with

[hearty panther]

It's also more accurate, stays more accurate, draws quicker, reloads quicker.

[frank ether]

I dont know how I feel about the 6 being like an LMG

couldn't they make it more like an SMG instead

[hearty panther]

And it's not that far behind the 6 when it comes to anything that isn't a Crusher, and Crushers are only relevant conversation with Onslaught.

[frank ether]

like part of me thinks I'd rather just have a proper hellgun for that role

[hearty panther]

I'm fine with it. The 6 is pretty awesome for XStance use. Big fat magazine, lots of potential DPS and sustained output. Can keep them boys covered in piss.

It's just, yeah, really expensive for anything that isn't a taggable target.

[frank ether]

Yeah I feel as even though 6 can melt crushers at a decent pace it feels like a waste of ammo (and talents) to do that instead of just swapping to my melee

[somber axle]

Exe Stance and Weapon Specialist with the Recon Mk VId is my fav build

[frank ether]

I guess different playstyles

I put recons on melee vet

[somber axle]

You just have to remember that activating the ability from melee doesn't trigger Weapon Specialist's ranged attack speed buff

[frank ether]

and invest just enough points on left part of the tree to get shock trooper

[somber axle]

Manually swap from melee to ranged THEN hit Exe Stance and enjoy the better damage and increased fire rate simultaneously

Makes it so funny for burning down tougher targets

[frank ether]

I'm just slapping it on my usual ciag deadshot build except instead of deadshot I take shock trooper for recon 6

[frank ether]

this to me should be a priority fix for the dev team

[somber axle]

The fire rate on the Recon Mk VId with the ranged attack speed buff from Weapon Specialist is a fav of mine

[frank ether]

executioner should proc weapon spec

[somber axle]

It would be nice if they fixed it but I think they're mostly on vacation right now

[frank ether]

Everyone keeps wondering why ppl keep using voc but we ignore these small issues with exe that just pile up

[umbral scaffold]

or lobbin a krak!

[frank ether]

I'm not saying like ''do it now'' kind of urgent, just that as far as balance patches go it should be priority

[sinful swallow]

They announced they're back already

[inland orchid]

Here’s said announcement

#📢news-bulletin message

[faint beacon]

Gonna go Harass a QP Auric Lobby with the 40 Fucking Shredders build, lets see how horribly this goes lmao

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cobbler-salad-throw-gif-15884509

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-open-holy-hand-grenade-gif-16402008

[somber axle]

A while ago there was a funny thing about Exe Stance's tool tip breaking after a patch and it gives me the tinfoil hat theory that they have a major rework in the pipeline planned for Exe Stance

Because nerfing VoC will not actually make more Vets interested in Exe Stance

[somber axle]

Neat!

[sinful swallow]

Exec just feels clunky compared to the other abilities, they just work

Gun not loaded? Toast
Toughness broken already? Toast

[last parcel]

the rework is that they’re going to write out executioners stances hidden benefits
(it will still be inaccurate)

[uncut pebble]

Please let them write what talents actually do and correct misleading text.

[frank ether]

that is indeed a tinfoil hat theory however its the good kind

the kind that gives me the hypes

I dont need a VoC nerf I need an exe rework

[frank ether]

kekw real

[faint beacon]

I was just shy Top scoring, a lot of the other players were good

[last parcel]

just needed a few more grenades

[faint beacon]

Im still fucking baffled LP on a grenadier build is actually doing work

[midnight totem]

lp?

also, no slop today? sad

[last parcel]

w w wwethaw pwoximity

[midnight totem]

ah

I hate that I can read that by the way. Fuck you

❤️

[last parcel]

❤️

[shadow urchin]

Howdy, anyone got strong opinions on which Sapper shovel I should use? I want to branch out from knives and swords here.

[idle swallow]

You want pure horde control or a mix of that and anti armor?

[supple stag]

As long as you pick folded ones you're good to go I think

III was my favourite, but lots of people recomend picking VII

[deft oriole]

MK III has the better special. It's purely vertical and is faster while doing the same damage

[idle swallow]

I do mk3 if my ranged can handle crushers and mk7 if it needs help with them

[supple stag]

mk3 deals with crushers just fine imo

[somber axle]

It used to fully reload on ability use but they removed that because Gunlugger Ogryn or something

[faint beacon]

Did me or path show you what we discovered about Lethal Proximity?

actually you included Sneaky

[somber axle]

It's a major DPS CD that you can kinda maintain near permanent uptime on

[faint beacon]

its very niche but its really damn funny and hilarious

cause its fucking Auric Viable

[somber axle]

Exe Stance is very nice for bursting bosses and maintaining breakpoints without being overly reliant on weapon perks to shore up gaps a weapon may have on important breakpoints

[midnight totem]

nope

[somber axle]

But like that's all funky math stuff and no one really wants to toy with breakpoints to the degree they bring a weapon down from 7+ shots per Crusher kill down to 2 shots per Crusher to make it a very viable Crusher hunting tool because the average player would rather have the team support and personal survivability tool this is VoC

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqGAqYZrwsxo-_dGh/d1337JH7Zcyf?invite=cr-MSxvN08sMTA3NDAxNTczLA

First is without, and Second is with LP

Keep in mind you HAVE to run Bistol to make this work

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqGCGDCXQhNHx5O-p/d1337V002bR5?invite=cr-MSxKRlgsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[midnight totem]

... what in the clown magic is this

[inland orchid]

The beauty of blessings

[faint beacon]

Laughs in 25% Explosion radius in general

we did testing on Zealot

Zealot gets NOTHING from this!

Vet Exclusive!!!!

[somber axle]

That's HILARIOUS

[midnight totem]

huh, no wonder my knife/bolt pistol build felt strangely powerful

[somber axle]

I want to try this now

Bolt Pistol grenadier time

[last parcel]

basilisk build

[uncut pebble]

The first issue they need to solve with executioners stance is making it not cancel when you are forced to draw melee.

[midnight totem]

WAIT

Does it increase the radius of krak grenades too?

[faint beacon]

if you guys want to swipe it go ahead

its one of the funniest Auric Meme build's we've made

[last parcel]

4 people running this

1 with field improv

[faint beacon]

yes

but its just

[uncut pebble]

If you didn't automatically lose exe stance when you drew melee it would automatically become like 4x easier to use.

[faint beacon]

not worth it

[midnight totem]

says you

IMPROVED RADIUS KRAK GRENADES HERE I COME

[last parcel]

yeah but 4 crushers with one grenade

[idle swallow]

Beeg radius shredders here I come

[somber axle]

It's canceled by Hound pounce, Trapper net, Mutie grab, etc. so many things just insta cancel and it is pretty punishing. I feel like that is by design though. The melee thing is probably to avoid any accidental code funkiness buffing melee damage with Exe Stance as a back up measure to keep Vet from attaining a CD that makes Zealot melee damage look pathetic by comparison. Could you IMAGINE if Exe Stance worked on melee too?? It would be wild LOL

[faint beacon]

Sacrificing your entire loadout just to have slightly better Kraks

lmao

A simple man on a simple mission

[last parcel]

exactly

[midnight totem]

sacrificing my entire loadout

like my loadout wasn't already krak grenades

Always ready for a surprise space marine incursion

When the Plague marines come, I'm ready

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iqJcNxnXKy4yDJz9z/d1337IwWyVMG?invite=cr-MSxYV2MsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

We got this also last night

[last parcel]

insert pic of plague marine gf here

[faint beacon]

you can semi see how the build functions

but its mainly just this bot being actually unkillable

[last parcel]

maia parry god

hsword parry inc

[faint beacon]

Yeah I noticed through that clip the bot was just parry chaining

and its really fucking funny

[lucid hinge]

Ai having Infinite stam will never not be funny

[sinful swallow]

Removed because bolter was deleting screens

[somber axle]

Boltgun still deletes things when magdumping and with the right talent set up you still near instagib bosses magdumping their weak spot but yeah I miss double magdump Boltgun time

It's extra funny because the reload mechanic is really only broken on Boltgun and maybe somewhat helpful for ignoring reloads on the Revolvers (not like the Revolvers need anymore power tbh) but it would also be nice for Shotguns

Exe Stance should definitely stay as the big DPS CD but it needs a rework to make it more worthwhile

[last parcel]

double agri dump

[somber axle]

I want to double magdump a Recon Mk VId

Bottomless Lasgun

[gilded wraith]

Do you think Gloryhunter on the Bolt pistol would proc off shredder grenade kills?

[faint beacon]

I doubt it

[hard cave]

@last parcel how do I build the head hunter autogun w/o exe stance

[faint beacon]

it would be off of The Bolter kill itself not the frags hence im using LP for it

[wise kelp]

Need some smart Veteran
Would a Power Sword that can't use the special be weaker than any of the current weapons or not ? (I don't play Vet)

[earnest bone]

@somber axleWhat are the strongest pure antihorde options for Vet? Chsword mk4/13?

[hard cave]

its weaker than a claw sword if im not mistaken

[faint beacon]

Yes and no, cause it has one of the worst Mobilities in the game but im positive if you run Slaughterer + BM it basically becomes like a rashad but worse

but the thing is, is it boils down to why not Run PC4

[hard cave]

because shit rng,,,,

[last parcel]

all of my headhunter autogun builds are war crimes

[hard cave]

war crimes as in holy shit this is amazing

or warcrimes as in wtf are you doing

[last parcel]

as in

[faint beacon]

most likely the most dumb build you've seen in your life

Im still going to die by the sword of using AE + WS with my HHA build cause its too much fun to use

[last parcel]

this is my opening salvo vraks VII build that i made two months ago to use with an unpowered psword

[somber axle]

Power Sword Mk VI, Rashad Mk II Combat Axe, Chainsword Mk IV (Sweeping Strikes/Rampage or Shred), Chainsword Mk XIIIg (Wrath/Rampage or Shred)

I want to add DC Swords but they struggle against flak too much. As soon as the horde of poxwalkers/groaners add in dreg bruisers or scab bruisers their wave cleave falls apart

Shovels have solid wave clear too though

If you want a strong head empty no thoughts weapon for horde clear go Chainsword Mk XIIIg and Wrath because spamming lights into hordes with Trench Fighter Drill melee attack speed and Weapon Specialist melee attack speed is very fun imo and literally all you do is W+M1

[last parcel]

rashad but worse would only be psword III with flak since i couldnt even oneshot a poxwalker using an uncharged psword VI light with max slaughterer

[earnest bone]

It's really sad that Dclaws cant do against flak armor without crits

[somber axle]

The parry is so fun but wow it's slow clearing waves of bruisers

Very satisfying carving through poxwalkers and groaners with them though

And you can kinda very safely and easily parry dance a Daemonhost too

But your Carapace is also pretty fucked

So Crushers are pain

And Maulers are pain

[faint beacon]

the 10 bruisers making damn sure you're going to be wailing on them for over 15 seconds

[last parcel]

that's why i slice up their bratwurst

[somber axle]

I keep forgetting but I need to try Knife Mk III light spam with Riposte and Flesh Tearer to feel the bleed wave clear

I've seen a few people say it works very well

[last parcel]

maybe next time i see you in chat i'll spam you

[somber axle]

Add in Reciprocity for funny crit bleed memes

I am at work for another 4 and a half hours

[faint beacon]

I didn't even realize they released a Zombies trailer for the new COD, I wont lie my opinion so far is "Damn this looks so good when you dont got a bitch in ya ear telling you its bad"

[somber axle]

Trust no one but friends on game reviews imo

[faint beacon]

There's even no commentary gameplay of terminus which im watching right now

it seriously looks fun

[somber axle]

Gaming journalists are either terrible at games or terrible at writing about games so their reviews are pretty meaningless and there are too many people salty about balance in games to give good reviews about games that aren't just "This game lacks content" 3000 hours played reviews on Steam

Chase the funny and ignore the peanut gallery booing it

[faint beacon]

That or its just person despises new elements being added in and say's "Game bad cause they changed a small thing thats now a QOL"

[somber axle]

Yeah pretty much LOL

[faint beacon]

Thats the state of Zombies btw

[somber axle]

The few times there are legitimate criticisms of a game in a review they're spammed out by mindless people writing nothingburgers

[faint beacon]

Massive QOL shit being added, and a lot of people hate it cause its not purposely anti-noob

[gilded wraith]

Just think if Bolter gets LP in the itemization rework, good times!

[faint beacon]

This is coming from the guy who's played since World at War mind you

[somber axle]

Trust only friends and your own thoughts

Randoms have no clue what you will like

[faint beacon]

The arguments

are really fucking funny reading though

Cause they brought back loadouts so you can stick with a weapon you like right? A lot of people are bitching you aren't forced into a pistol only

and then when thats brought up of just "Use a pistol?"

they say it ruins the fun

???

lmao

[lucid hinge]

Gamers suffering from checks notes choice?

[somber axle]

Pigeon brain people needing to be pigeon holed into the way they like to play LOL

[faint beacon]

Do not get me started on the Zombies community

I've been a Zombies fan for ages but HOLY SHIT they are so anti-change

[wanton sigil]

Oh christ Please nooo

I lovee zombies but the fanbase is just

[faint beacon]

we dont speak of the Fanbase

[wanton sigil]

Exactly

what fanbase

[faint beacon]

unless its Jr Rizzo he's a cool laid back youtuber

[lucid hinge]

Best thing you can do on the internet is not interact with fanbases

[faint beacon]

but he did drop Zombies

:((

[wanton sigil]

shame

[faint beacon]

it works so far, just I wont lie its so damn funny seeing them drop the BO6 zombies trailer right

first time in ages

been actually moderately hyped for Zombies, cause it seriously looks good

and then there's just people bitching

lmao

[earnest bone]

God bless you hadron and your casino

[last parcel]

check out my emp's gift

[faint beacon]

Cleave damage low!!!! SCRAP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (its really good nice pull)

[wanton sigil]

Last good zombies.. I have to say maybe Bo3 or like the first map of Infinity

[winter dock]

https://fxtwitter.com/haultrukkz/status/1820128447764861297?s=46&t=DyMqF28Jxpw6T3x9G3aDBA

[wanton sigil]

Or was infinity the exo one?

[lucid hinge]

Yeah this is the first time I've been hyped for a cod game since CW but like I know it's gonna be 2 billion gigabytes

[last parcel]

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wanton sigil]

WAIT They actually...hang on

[somber axle]

Congrats!

[faint beacon]

Fun Fact: That was considering MW2 + 3

its somewhere around 100 Gbs for Bo6 alone

Remember COD is a hub now

[lucid hinge]

I'm running out of space

Please

Stop with the bloat

[faint beacon]

I'll just Delete BO3 tragically for it when it drops :((

[wanton sigil]

Holy im watching it
I know it's gonna be good

[lucid hinge]

I already had to for a different game

[faint beacon]

To be fair I'll probably be grinding it out, I seriously like CW's gameplay loop

I HOPE

the rampage inducer returns

I get bored without it

[slate hawk]

Cw zombies was pretty goatted, gameplay wize

[wanton sigil]

Yeha

Tbh I do miss like, Mob

[faint beacon]

Look the trailer is using Rob Zombies' Dragula enough said lmao

[wanton sigil]

Mob was goated

[wanton sigil]

well said

I like that it's adding back ya know

Characters

[faint beacon]

This is why you Only Download BO6 for Zombies and Maybe Campaign

[wanton sigil]

Tbh, Im iffy with the campaign

[celest vine]

Kill witches, Maim witches, roundhouse kick a witch into the concrete, hang witches, burn witches, report witches to the inquisition

[wanton sigil]

I know a lot of the 90s military stuff

So Im worried they gonna butcher like, the Yugoslav wars

[faint beacon]

Campaign is a continuation off of CW so Im fine with it?

look Stone as an operator returns, I'm immediately happy

[lucid hinge]

I miss licensed songs for zombies

[scarlet path]

Just got this bad boy and put dumdum on it what perk should i change

[wanton sigil]

The best perk

duh

[scarlet path]

I recently came back so i dont know what the best one is lol

[viscid sparrow]

I myself would swap Specials dmg to flak dmg

[lucid hinge]

Prob unyielding for flak imo

[wanton sigil]

yeah IDk ether

lol

[viscid sparrow]

unyielding boosts monster dps

[scarlet path]

I was thinking that cause the extra damage against the bosses wouldnt hurt

[lucid hinge]

You have better DPS options for bosses on vet

Like kraks, ps6, Rashad

[scarlet path]

I know im mostly a boltgun user i just have this guy for when im in the mood

[viscid sparrow]

is using 2 krak grenades on the same enemy really the best choice? (even if its a boss)

[wanton sigil]

I always normally go braced autogun

Makes me go full catachan

[lucid hinge]

You should be taking the 60s recharge for vet anyway

It's one of their best perks

[faint beacon]

if you cant, get Demo team

[lucid hinge]

Yeah you get so many nades on vet you shouldn't worry about using them

[faint beacon]

cause then at least you have a 5% chance to get Nades from Elite/Special kills in anyone's coherency regardless who killed them

[viscid sparrow]

I do that too, and yet I find using both kraks on the same boss not really always viable, as one of those kraks could be used later to kill crushers/maulers safely...

[lucid hinge]

Just saying there are better DPS options for bosses

Plus you have 3 other teammates

Unless they're all psykers bosses are taken care of

Even then DS and Deimos is crazy

[scarlet path]

It is now my highest rating gun lol

[uncut pebble]

The fact remains that it's far too easy to get messed up. You look at the other damage dps ability (scrier's) and realize how few weaknesses it has by comparison and your only thought is "where did they go wrong?"

[umbral scaffold]

this is why i just turn invisible and let all the ragers on me insta snap to my unaware allies

[shadow urchin]

Man, how I wish "Burster Resistance" was a thing

[somber axle]

Scriers Gaze True Aim Recon Mk VId Infernus Dum Dum is a hilarious combo on Psyker but I still wouldn't say Psyker pulls off Recons better than Vet despite how funny their juice is. Vet just has more ranged juice and better ranged juice tbh. You have to take it in context with the entire talent tree. But ignoring Gun Psyker and Gunlugger Ogryn I don't think QoL changes would shift people to use Exe Stance more. If it maintained buff through melee swap that makes it more comfy to swap and slap powalkers before returning to special/elite deleting with ranged and would make Weapon Specialist juggling more fun with it but most people would probably still use VoC. The risk/reward factor is neat but it's meant to be a very proactive ability for shutting down specials/elites quick rather than a defensive/reactive thing and it's just easier to react to sudden threats than it is to be ahead of the AI director the higher your climb in difficulty

It's janky but even removing the jank wouldn't change the meta (I still want the broken parts fixed though)

The ability would need a rework to get people to look at it and right now a lot of the meta builds can output crazy levels of damage and elite/special kill potential without relying on Exe Stance

It's telling when VoC Vets think they have to carry any Vet using Exe Stance

[faint beacon]

Closest you'll get is Corruption Resistance

[somber axle]

You can only one shot something and any additional damage beyond that is meaningless fluff so if on the highest difficulty someone can take VoC and still use their preferred weapon to instagib almost the entire roster of elites/specials there's really no reason to take Exe Stance outside of very niche builds or just for fun

[mortal orbit]

Exe needs it's ranged stagger toned down, anything that doesnt outright get ohko gets knocked around to where follow ups take much longer to square up opposed to not running stance.

[somber axle]

I want the refresh on highlight kill made baseline and the node changed to add the ranged impact damage instead so it's optional to talent into. People who dislike the stagger can ignore it, people who want it can keep it at a talent tax

[mortal orbit]

More stagger translates to less uptime if their head is getting bounced around + if u already 2 shot w.o stance it makes little sense to run talent that defeats itself

[somber axle]

I like it for niche scenarios like Boltgun

[terse idol]

I wouldn't mind the refresh on highlight kill with both ranged shooters and ogryn enemies

[last parcel]

imagine if we move the impact to the ogryn highlight node

[terse idol]

Packaged into one

[mortal orbit]

When it works its great

[viscid sparrow]

btw, what could I swap to improve this CIAG?

I am thinking of either upgrading the flak perk to 25%, or swapping one of the perks to even more extra crit (I already have +5 from talent node)

alternatively, I could swap Deathspitter to something that gives some other benefits to close-range kills (Hit and Run, because screw Speedload)

[mortal orbit]

But u already nailed the issue of swapping immediately canceling it

[somber axle]

You can literally 2 shot burst hip fire a Bulwark shield stagger with Exe Stance using the Boltgun and if you remove the ranged impact bonus you lose this and nerf the Boltgun again in a funny way LOL

[mortal orbit]

Thats the biggest con

[somber axle]

That would be wonderful

[terse idol]

Now I will argue the difference between 1 and 2 shooting with or without exe is massive

Breakpoint gamiing

[somber axle]

AND LIKE

If you Exe Stance + Boltgun Collateral stat 77%+ and Combat Stim and max stacks of Pinning Fire you can still 1 shot stagger Bulwark shields and instakill them with a headshot after!!

[mortal orbit]

It turns into a 2 shot, and a much longer one to pull off w stagger throwing the target off where w.o itd b relatively static

[last parcel]

damnit now i have to post it again

[viscid sparrow]

btw, can I get some advice on this question?

[somber axle]

Oh it was 75%+ LOL

But yeah!

[somber axle]

It's a CIAG so like as is it is strong. Swap Flak to 25% and Dum Dum to IV when you get that blessing

There's not really much to say about it

[mortal orbit]

But the 1 shot is great, i agree. I had fun running exe, you turn into thanos snapping fools out of existence.

[viscid sparrow]

I legit posted my question originally because I thought Run and Gun was available on IAGs...

[somber axle]

Tbh Exe Stance would feel much better if they give it the Marksman's Focus treatment and just do some fun QoL changes. MF buffs didn't make WS or FT Vets change their keystone but it made it more fun/consistent for the MF Vets. Fixing bugs and some neat QoL improvements would go a long way for Exe Stance feeling good to the Vets who use it too

[somber axle]

It is not

[mighty anvil]

those frames Q_Q

[somber axle]

Your ideal combo is Dum Dum + Fire Frenzy, Deathspitter or Stripped Down

[somber axle]

That was when my ram was bottlenecking my computer performance. I am now dating someone who knows computers and they helped me pick out new ram sticks!! My computer performs much better now LOL

Plus they glow rainbow at night

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/icarly-carly-shay-carly-miranda-cosgrove-miranda-gif-22030885

[somber axle]

Yeah exactly LOL

[mighty anvil]

Relatable, except it was a fwb who helped custom build a new rig

[somber axle]

My room has a weird new nightlight if I don't shut down my computer each night

I like my weird new nightlight though

[somber axle]

Yeah idk the computer I have now was bought like 6 years ago and at the time it was very good but tech advances SO FAST

Actually wait it may have been 7 or 8...

[mighty anvil]

Something like this works

[somber axle]

Don't you want Flak to alleviate the ADM there?

[mighty anvil]

ADM?

[somber axle]

I might be misremembering but I thought for sure it had strong Maniac ADM already and a slight weakness to Flak ADM that made Flak worthwhile on IAGs

Armour Damage Modifier

[earnest bone]

@somber axle

went for a test

[somber axle]

Nice!

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[mighty anvil]

I don't know the numbers but i do top damage

[tall torrent]

swap either perk for 5% crit chance maybe

[terse idol]

It is still likely better to run flak for maniac

Or

Maniac, Flak

[tall torrent]

5% crit is pretty much mandatory on Columnus imo

[earnest bone]

Zealot on the other hand enjoying that 30% ranged base crit (5+25) from piety

[mighty anvil]

This is was me playing like garbage

Not a god roll but it gets the job done, so i'd say bare minimum viability build here not a god roll at all and it slaps

[odd sparrow]

wouldnt you rather have flak?

[mighty anvil]

Yeah Flak > maniac would be a god roll

[earnest bone]

You can also choose between Frenzy and Deathspitter.
Deathspitter apply the buff on close range kill, but it works for ANY distance (since its pure Power), while FF is Close Damage (aka wont work past >12.5m)

[mighty anvil]

I'll have to test that out, I don't think the gun is designed to be shot at the range

[earnest bone]

Previously, Deathspitter was the king (before close range was buffed from 8m to 12.5m)

rn it need a test

[mighty anvil]

In your experience does it make distance fights easier to deal with?

[tall torrent]

FF works past 12.5m

just decays to 0% at 30m

[earnest bone]

Then its fine i guess

[tall torrent]

they're both ok

[earnest bone]

shouldnt make a big difference now

[tall torrent]

basically, fire frenzy wins in dps within 18.6m
deathspitter wins in dps after 18.6m

[mighty anvil]

Whats a good Auric Maelstorm curio setup?

[tall torrent]

get >200 health and 20% sniper resist, everything else up to u

for veteran, gunner resist/extra toughness/extra health/extra dockets/sprint efficiency/stamina regen are all pretty good perks

depending on ur build (mainly knife & deadshot), +stam can feel almost mandatory (but this limits ur curio perk options if u still want >200 health)

[mighty anvil]

Thank you

[earnest bone]

meanwhile me

-cough- -cough-

https://tenor.com/view/squishy-dory-come-here-gif-12955995

[tall torrent]

I mean, u can certainly play without +health on veteran

[earnest bone]

just dont take that sniper shot without >90% toughness

[tall torrent]

it's just that +health gives 2 pretty big defense breakpoints that toughness usually don't matter much against

[earnest bone]

or at least 75

[earnest bone]

Mauler?

[tall torrent]

sniper & burster

at 200+ health u can take 3 burster/2 sniper and not go down

[earnest bone]

fat

[tall torrent]

also no instant death being revived at 1 wound

[earnest bone]

taking two grims with 158 HP is a pain

[mighty anvil]

I should farm for a +health then

I knew i saved this for a good reason!

[tall torrent]

veteran can still reach pretty high toughness even with just +16% toughness

if u take all 3 toughness nodes with +16% toughness u still get smth like 192

[mighty anvil]

yeah thats what im rocking rn

[earnest bone]

[tall torrent]

I run 2x +health and 1 +toughness

[last parcel]

me fr

[earnest bone]

1 health + x3 sub HP with 35+% HP

should be over 200 i guess

[inland orchid]

The percent difference is so funny legit only 1

[tall torrent]

U just need 34% or more health

However if u take x3 +5% health u give up smth nice in curio perks

Gunner resist / sprint efficiency / stamina regen / extra dockets

I play all my classes with 3x +10% dockets

My playstyle can be summed up as “loot goblin”

[earnest bone]

dang

[tall torrent]

[lyric hedge]

Does +X% translate to anything after lvl cap?

[tall torrent]

What’s the +X%

[slow spade]

If you mean xp

[tall torrent]

+%experience?

[slow spade]

No it means nothing

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t do anything

[earnest bone]

perfection

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-205-live-logo-gif-13764903

[umbral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-cat-cute-big-eyes-damn-gif-14589812

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/d-gif-4142038439471687298

[inland orchid]

Yea I’m a s.i.m.p,

S. Sniper
I.
M. Monke
P.

[crude fiber]

Max toughness on vet is somewhere in the 270s, can't remember the exact number

On am unrelated note, every item in brunts store this hour has a mobility stat of 70 or higher, I am convinced they gave mobility a higher weight in the rng to make more bricks

[mighty anvil]

Just finished my first auric maelstorm

(without dying)

[somber axle]

Can you imagine how silly toughness gets on Vet with triple toughness curios and toughness perks, both +25 toughness talents, Infiltrate + Hunter's Resolve, Close Quarters Drill, Iron Will and the silly amounts of toughness regen Vet gets?

Just goofy levels of toughness

[mighty anvil]

T_T

If you leave an auric mission does it reset the streak?

[tall torrent]

If u died already, yes it’ll reset

[slow spade]

I miss when Vet base toughness was 200

[hard cave]

we love voice of command

[scarlet path]

Where are my vet axe enjoyers?

[somber axle]

Tac Axe or Rashad Mk II Combat Axe? The latter is meta and has a cult following, the former is off meta and less loved

But I unironically love the Tac Axe Mk IV more than Rashad Mk II Combat Axe

The swing speed feels so fun even if it is less effective

Rashad needs Trench Fighter Drill + Weapon Specialist and still feels kinda slow on the swing speed imo

It's very good when you get the godroll with the right stats, perks and blessings but wow the slow speed feels awful

Oh unless you mean Chainaxe...

I love them wholeheartedly

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-evil-smirk-crop-gif-25562144

[somber axle]

Slow but the rev'd heavy into a boss or Ogryn gives me life

[shadow urchin]

The MK3 shovel was a good choice. Damn fun

Fast, high bonk and boink potential

[iron marten]

went for the most meme build possible, almost screwed up the setup, and had my friend save me with his voc, but lol

[last parcel]

the railgun build

[iron marten]

just seeing large chunks of boss hp disappear always make chemical in brain go wild

even BoNs take 4k-5k damage, even just shooting at their face lol

[sinful swallow]

wow portrait rendering on and your computer isnt exploding?

[iron marten]

well, I'm running on the lowest graphics with dlss

and my res is 1024x768 haha

[sinful swallow]

lol fair enough

yeah it almost looks like you have a shader effect or something going on

[earnest bone]

1024x768

something from the early 2000's

i remember my monitor was only 800x600 and i was unable to play some games as they required 1024x768 support

[mighty anvil]

52 minute's of sweat, I think we went through maybe 2-3 leavers throughout the entire process

[earnest bone]

52 for gods sake

what da faq happened there

[mighty anvil]

Ngl I did some carrying

[earnest bone]

https://tenor.com/view/medic-trainer-injury-starship-troopers-clancy-brown-gif-18834406

[mighty anvil]

Ogryn kept running off by himself and dying

[earnest bone]

big brain no gain

[indigo scroll]

dumb mutant glitch wat is even goin on here

[mighty anvil]

Could I lfg some of yall for some auric maelstorm runs?

My mutant had a seizure lol

[last parcel]

i'd join if i wasnt in the middle of one

[wooden brook]

I'm really struggling to do these pennances.

I can't work out what I need to do because I'm stoopid and only usually play commando

[mental cloud]

Same lol

Those are the only two left before my vet is done.

Well correction kill shot ready and the volley fire one.

[last parcel]

focus target is literally tag enemies and kill them so that unlocks naturally
killshot ready can be completed by

• dumping ammo into hordes (pls no)
• taking the camouflage subnode and killing enemies with melee while at 10 stacks
  get marksman focus stacks by getting headshot kills (or just by standing still or crouchwalking if you have the camouflage subnode)

[wooden brook]

ok

[last parcel]

i'm assuming the volley fire one is keeping it active for over 20 seconds
take these two subnodes and shoot all the yellow people

[wooden brook]

HAHA

yup

[mental cloud]

Thanks. Just gotta git gud lol

I took a break from it, I need to just finish em out.

[shadow urchin]

For Marksman, grab an Automatic weapon and unload into a horde to get max stacks quickly.

For focus target, just ping every target you're currently shooting at

[crimson pebble]

Does the bigger they are modifer for exe stance work against plague ogryns aswell

[wooden brook]

ammo dump but with critical hits consuming no ammo

gonna give this one a try now

[last parcel]

guess not

[crimson pebble]

Cooked

[thorn lark]

tac axe all the way for me, after playing knives and taxes for months, the rashad feels sluggish (it's better with trench and ws stacks) and less mobile overall, it feels less sluggish with martyrdom or inexorable tho

[tame lodge]

I'd consider Deathspitter instead of Infernus for the purpose of mag dumping hordes

For the penance that is

[hard cave]

thoughts?

[sinful swallow]

infernus is to kind of fix its boss dps if your melee isnt too suited for it

[tall torrent]

Pretty good, swap high voltage to lightning reflexes

And it’s abt as good as it gets

Finesse could be higher tho

Maybe upgrade carapace to tier 4

[thorn lark]

windows + shift + s

[hard cave]

Pc is too shit

[tame lodge]

💀

[last parcel]

aint no way

[hard cave]

Playing on geforcenow as well

[mighty anvil]

OR Print Screen key.

[mighty anvil]

Nvidia GeForce Experience causes massive bloat on shit pc's

[last parcel]

the built in screenshot tool is not resource intensive at all
https://screenshot.help/

[thorn lark]

that has been standard for decades

[hard cave]

I'm running it through Microsoft edge

no like you don't understand, I have to kill shit in task manager just so the cpu doesn't stay at 100 when launching

this pc is so shit that it lags with just discord being open

[thorn lark]

Wait you play dark tide on it???

Ohhhh

You're running it remotely

Maybe you could try to go to the control manager and disable some services at startup

[somber axle]

I can help with Killshot Ready give me a sec to find the copy paste thing

[mighty anvil]

ain't no way

60$ BUCKS GPU AYOOOOOOOOO

[somber axle]

@wooden brook #veteran-class message

Here's the link to the message thing

[hard cave]

I don't have any money lmao

not like that

[somber axle]

Tl;Dr is just grab a Lawbringer Shotgun, get Scattershot and Manstopper for blessings. Grab Marksman's Focus and Camo node. Use with Infiltrate and Low Profile. Click heads/stand still until 10+ stacks of MF then load the special shot for a wide horizontal shot pattern and fire into hordes

You turn hordes into red mist with one shot and all kills while at 10 Stack MF count toward getting the penance

Infiltrate/Low Profile is for ease of use to stand behind squadmates and freely reload your special shot while hordes gather around squadmates

They line them up, you knock em down

Use with Kraks to offset weakness to Carapace

[mighty anvil]

no worries bro if i wasn't broke i'd gift ya the upgrade

[somber axle]

The message link I shared will show the talent set up I recommend for it but you can swap the point off Tunnel Vision if you want to and put it where ever else you'd rather have it

You can also swap Vanguard/Out for Blood into Close Quarters Drill/Confirmed Kill at the top if you prefer CK for toughness regen

Lawbringer Shotgun is pretty solid for elite/special hunting and the ammo efficiency per shot for horde clear with this strategy means you're not throwing mountains of ammo into the garbage shooting into hordes with it

Alternatively crab walk to victory with a power sword LOL

I just find the Lawbringer Shotgun build to be the most fun way of doing the Killshot Ready penance

[last parcel]

it's a lot more fun

assuming you already have manstopper

[somber axle]

Oh also just realised I was using Longshot with that old talent tree and it's not as good now iirc so you can swap Longshot off into something else too

could go Tactical Reload next to Out for Blood if you want to speed up the reload a little bit

[serene ivy]

Fast reloads are fun, can agree

[somber axle]

revised the talent tree a bit

you could also just ignore Surv Aura and go right down through Fire Team and Tinkerer to save extra points for Desperado

make the Kraks slightly more fun vs bosses

[last parcel]

covering fire

[somber axle]

this version leaves you with 2 points to spend at your leisure

[tall torrent]

If ur running shotgun, highly recommend tactical reload

[somber axle]

Tactical Reload is a very solid option for sure

could get both Tactical Reload and Desperado if you're running something like Knife to help cover for Shotgun's weakness to Crushers

Shotgun can already make hordes disappear

[spice wadi]

the clown has propogated stealth builds once again

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyquote-gif-17287897282409113653

[somber axle]

I am sneaky

it is what I do

[last parcel]

stop looking back there

[umbral scaffold]

Change iron will to surprise attack

[slow spade]

"finally I can move up to Uprising difficulty"

[mighty anvil]

Power Sword or Mk13 Cadia for horde clear?

[austere mica]

Power sword by miles

[last parcel]

if you already have power cycler, go psword
if you're a broke ass varlet, take the chainsword with wrath and rampage

[austere mica]

It’s best at basically everything

You could also use devils claw 4 like a real one

[last parcel]

80 dreg bruisers

[austere mica]

Weapon spec routing tier crit

[tall torrent]

it's only best at burst monster dmg

[austere mica]

What PS?

I was talking about PS there

[tall torrent]

yea

power sword is not the best at basically everything

[slow spade]

its just really good at everything

except moving

if you need a sword that can do anything except move, power sword is your weapon 😎

[tall torrent]

power sword's main upsides are low point cost & high burst monster dmg

[sinful swallow]

Who needs to move when everything dies

So Path, what's your main loadout

[sinful swallow]

This is why I really like it honestly. I'm a lazy player and I run boltgun 95% of the time

I'll swap it out for mk4 chaxe now and then but it's just a thoughtless way to ensure I've got horde clear boss DMG and something to deal with crushers

Haven't been using chaxe as much though since bloodletting doesn't proc thunderous anymore

At least not on 5+ anymore

[last parcel]

you can still stick the rev --> dodge out --> smack his fucking face to stack thunderous

[mighty anvil]

I had a team that let me take all the ammo and I literally had to ask them to refill

[sinful swallow]

I curated a very specific roll on it so I could 1 tap light all trash, heavies for elites, specials for mutants, and heavy specials for crushers but all the special breakpoints were including 2 sec bleedouts

Really needed the extra rending from full thunderous

It still works in heresy where breakpoints are lower but I really kind of need the sheer density of hi-5 to feel something

[mighty anvil]

So for Psword the god rolls is: Power Cycler + Bromentum?

[sinful swallow]

Yes with maniac+elite

Sunder is gonna be better with full mauler/crusher waves

Bromentum is a much more generalist cleave hordes

[mighty anvil]

MK6 is the go to?

[sinful swallow]

Hordes aren't such a big deal depending on skill level but comfort wise it's nice to just slash and delete 8 heretics off the screen x3

6 has the lethal poke on push attack that your crusher 2 taps and boss damage comes from

[mighty anvil]

Whats the dump stat?

[sinful swallow]

Mobility after 51, cleave targets

Damn azreal too fast for my thumbs

[mighty anvil]

kk

Just got this out the box

[sinful swallow]

Psword is super functional with just cycler 4 vs Rashad needing perfection

🧱 incoming

[mighty anvil]

FUCK

Wait would my rashad be better?

[umbral scaffold]

what perks do u put on this shotgun? also is there a resource for best perk/blessings somewhere

[sinful swallow]

What build? WS or deadshot

[umbral scaffold]

sorry, dont know what either of those mean

[sinful swallow]

Weapon specialist keystone or Deadshot talent on left side

[umbral scaffold]

I hate WS so then I choose deadshot

[mighty anvil]

Are poxwalkers considered infested enemies?

[sinful swallow]

Id swap death spitter to mancleaver and ranged to flak

You'll get up to 80% crit chance to instagib a horde since it'll penetrate

[slow spade]

poxbursters too

brb putting Infested on my sword to kill bursters faster 😎

[umbral scaffold]

Thank you

[sinful swallow]

Wait

Before you commit

[mighty anvil]

FML

[sinful swallow]

I actually don't know if bracing it gives you deadshot

[slow spade]

they're a non-threat after all

[umbral scaffold]

oh i wont be committing i dont have any blessings XD

[slow spade]

it does

[last parcel]

it does

[sinful swallow]

I assumed it does and then had a panic because I'd hate to give misinformation and lock his shotgun

[umbral scaffold]

really really wish the talent trees had a search bar

[last parcel]

under executioner's stance

the left ability

[umbral scaffold]

found it, thanks

[sinful swallow]

This to the max, any psword with blessings is 98% max power

[umbral scaffold]

Is the hacker shotgun good at damaging carapace?

[mighty anvil]

my rashad axe is better at horde clear unfortunatelyu

[sinful swallow]

Yeah psword needs to be charged, that's the other thing

But while charged it'll deal with everything in front of you

[slow spade]

Rashad is harder to make so just stick to what you got for now

[sinful swallow]

Hah

[slow spade]

Fatshark seems to be pretty aware of weapon balance at least

[sinful swallow]

I honestly hope not

[mighty anvil]

I think ima just farm for a better Rasahd axe

Brain too slow to remember to charge 😠

[sinful swallow]

Lmfao

[mighty anvil]

whats dump stat on rashad

[slow spade]

Mobility

[sinful swallow]

Has to be mobile

[tall torrent]

Mobility (still need 51% or higher)

[slow spade]

its always Mobility

[mighty anvil]

followed by?

fuck

[sinful swallow]

Everything else is needed for it's performance

[slow spade]

nothing lol

[mighty anvil]

so this aids?

[slow spade]

part of why Rashad is hard to make

[tall torrent]

It’s bricked gg

[slow spade]

yes

[sinful swallow]

Need a 76% average across all other stats iirc

[mighty anvil]

kk

[slow spade]

Rashad is one of the hardest to make weapons

even Power Sword is easier

[mighty anvil]

this is my current one i think with enuff money thrown at the screen i can farm a better roll

[slow spade]

though it will get immensely easier soon (hopefully)

[tall torrent]

I’m just gonna wait for crafting update to try to make a better Rashad

[slow spade]

I genuinely wonder if a Sprint Efficiency perk on Psword is worth it

[sinful swallow]

Psword is just a matter of finding 2 at some point with cycler and bro

[slow spade]

same

[tall torrent]

What I got so far serves me well enough

I have a 546 Rashad that hits basically all breakpoints at headtaker stacks

Not gonna pour more resources into it

[umbral scaffold]

how'd i do (hacker shotgun build and i also like to melee)

[tall torrent]

Why 5% ranged damage

On top left

[umbral scaffold]

iuno ill reallocate it

[sinful swallow]

Drop that ranged node for superiority complex

Left side under the ammo

[tall torrent]

Skipping all toughness gain nodes at top is certainly a choice

[slow spade]

opening your inventory must be hell

[umbral scaffold]

Found it, thank you

[slow spade]

its confidence 😎

true

I've been using the same power sword I crafted at Patch 13

[sinful swallow]

[mighty anvil]

I need something to chase lol and the axe sounds like the perfect carrot on the stick

[tall torrent]

After crafting update day 1 I’m going for plasma & Rashad

[slow spade]

I'm going for Rashad myself

maybe bolt pistol for funsies

[sinful swallow]

Honestly

I'm just gonna round out my boltgun and swap perks on my psword lol

[tall torrent]

Plasma is like the only other veteran weapon that has very specific modifier roll requirements

Antax too ig but it’s just Rashad alt

[mighty anvil]

when does the crafting update drop

[last parcel]

so based

[tall torrent]

Some time this year (Sep/Oct)

They said their next update will be itemization

[mighty anvil]

o_o

[sinful swallow]

Tfw first descendant snagged me

[mighty anvil]

200k down the hole but i can feel it the next one is gonna be lottery

[sinful swallow]

At least it got me off Warframe but I can't put it down till I'm 100% achievement score

[mighty anvil]

wait pen is only needed for armor right?

[last parcel]

theh first gooner

[sinful swallow]

When did people start saying gooner lol

[tall torrent]

This is exactly what rolling Rashad feels like

[sinful swallow]

Good, don't. It's literally something I just sank so much time into I keep coming back because sunk cost

Yeah it's hard to put down when you get into streaks of it

Darktide actually was the first step in breaking the addiction

I used to put my free time into Rocksmith before my friends sucked me back into wf

I grew up playing l4d2 with my dad a lot, it's just the instanced horde slasher

I've got like 0 engagement with the crafting despite hundreds of hours lol

Holy shit

I've seen people go down that road before so I know how much effort that was

[slow spade]

The Emperor ❤️❤️❤️

[sinful swallow]

And honestly back to darktide getting back into this much more lax just hop in and kill stuff and that's it was a huge breakthrough

Nice

That's cool as fuck, how'd you get into that

[mighty anvil]

the game stop[ped my gambling addiction

[slow spade]

Asking nicely c:

[sinful swallow]

I'm a store manager in fast food, so talk about a lack of free time lmfao

Since I dropped into this chat tonight I've had 4 calls and 38 texts about bullshit

Living the dream

[mighty anvil]

Which one is better?

[sinful swallow]

Hmmmmmmmmm

Want to say right

[tall torrent]

Left prob

[sinful swallow]

But it's hard off top of head

[tall torrent]

Rashad is not rly a finesse orientated weapon

[sinful swallow]

The council has spoken

[mighty anvil]

ty

[sinful swallow]

Can't you offset missing some pen with a rending node

[mighty anvil]

800k spent but i did get an upgrade

[sinful swallow]

Ahhhhhh I see

Yeah

[tall torrent]

Rending at >100% ADM is converted into +damage at 0.25x value

[sinful swallow]

Yeah I didn't realize it rolled beyond 100adm

[mighty anvil]

How do upgrade her?
Shred > Bromentum
Infested > Man?

[tall torrent]

Shred into BM, infested into unarmored

I think

[sinful swallow]

Do you have a spreadsheet or something 👀

[last parcel]

that's the gamer autism at work

[sinful swallow]

Hahaha nice

[mighty anvil]

so go flak?

[tall torrent]

I have a guide (work in progress)

[sinful swallow]

Yeah I've seen a bit of what you posted before

[tall torrent]

Ogryn melee varies so wildly in performance

On one hand u have bully clubs

On the other hand u have Karsolas

[slow spade]

Hellbore bayonet UwU

[tall torrent]

@sinful swallow combat axe (format v2.5)

[sinful swallow]

So I've been pushing myself into solo

Of all the fucking walls to hit, it always gets tight if there's a BoN

[tall torrent]

Duo is a good place to start imo

[sinful swallow]

Pubs lately are basically duos 🤣

[tall torrent]

I mean, find a friend u usually play with and just queue private
Let bots die when they get downed

[sinful swallow]

Yeah Ill swap melee out but I'm locked in on my boltgun exec stance build

VT was pretty wild

[sinful swallow]

You gotta admit it's fun showing off in pubs sometimes though

[tall torrent]

Kinda? But duo is kinda more efficient

U loot faster & obj faster

It’s well suited to my loot goblin playstyle

[sinful swallow]

Fair enough

And that's 100% the strat too going into crafting update

[tall torrent]

This is my whole playstyle now

[sinful swallow]

I trained my lads on knive zealot to speedrun d5 for materials

[tall torrent]

Trio is maybe faster by a bit if the 3rd is not an ogryn

Duo is truly the best mode

[sinful swallow]

Of course the 3rd will be an ogryn though

If your premade isn't trolling you are you really friends

[tall torrent]

If trio’s 3rd is ogryn it’s just duo with 1 guy lagging behind

But then again the 2 faster guys can split and grab plasteel while ogryn just A->B along the main objectives

[sinful swallow]

Pretty much

My friends are still finishing out those huge penances for ogryn so they take turns lmao

[tall torrent]

If they’re doing the 4500 lucky bullet one

Just private queue orthus offensive and bell skip

[sinful swallow]

I told them about the karnac twins thing

Yeah

[tall torrent]

Heavy hitter & suppressed enemies however

[sinful swallow]

Heavy hitter was awful

[tall torrent]

U can queue mercantile high intensity

And just farm starting spawn

Don’t breach 2nd wall

[sinful swallow]

I held a game hostage end of smelter for it

[tall torrent]

I got my friend 2500 kills with 10 stack marksman focus in like 3 games with that

[sinful swallow]

Everyone else died during last event and I said fuck it this ends here

[tall torrent]

And it was not even auric

[sinful swallow]

Damn that's pretty efficient

Wish I knew that for heavy hitter

Smelter end forces 70 at all times so it was convenient to just stand there and swing

But yeah

Idk pushing solo with boltgun

I've said it a few times wishing there was auto reload on exec stance

Hold on

Trying to find a pic of my tree

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/clay-figure-fail-funny-plop-fall-over-gif-3821734776426639740

[tall torrent]

comms plex mid event

those 20 morbillion gunner spawns

[sinful swallow]

I bounce between these

[tall torrent]

no grenade regen in 1st build?

[sinful swallow]

Old, I dropped keystone on krak for demo team

And right is 90% playrate now

I couldn't tell them apart on my phone lol I'm still phone posting

Wife at a concert waiting for pickup

I've tried to squeeze this as much as I can, keep in mind it's bolter and psword/chaxe 4

Uptime autism

And reload makes me melee a ton so f and swap back feels kinda weird

Fwiw

I have compared the 2 and I know it's better

I already hit my 1 tap breakpoints with my bolter

But elite helps my psword always hit crusher which I miss otherwise because it's locked

[hearty panther]

peeps dont feel confident with 'only' landing headshots so the elite dmg seems more reliable

fkn zaroona

[sinful swallow]

True

[hearty panther]

but yea idk i hate scoreboards but

knowing your kill to headshot ratio

helps open your eyes to that kind of stuff

[tame lichen]

is weapon speacialist/ always preparerd combo still popular

[sinful swallow]

You have to hit hs with boltgun to have any kind of ammo economy

I actually used to run mf instead of focus because it also had reload

But the only thing I can optimize really is boss DPS, and focus won hard on that front since it helps teammates

One iteration I messed with was redirect fire became highlight for team

It actually helped aurics smooth out a little bit

There's that mental tug of war though of "help team" vs horde all power for myself lmao

[wise turtle]

I would like to share my highlights, but then they wont be as impressed with me as i shoot things through gas

[sinful swallow]

Not gonna lie

I had a random with highlight and it was dopamine when he popped stance while mine was down

[wise turtle]

Does the 5s refresh when killing highlighted targets for everyone else too?

[sinful swallow]

I know it activates the neurons of all the glugger ogryns too

[sinful swallow]

Nah you still have to be the one that kills them

In super target rich environments though it's easy to maintain

[wise turtle]

But if i had it going for 15 seconds do they also keep it up for 15s?

[sinful swallow]

Yes

[wise turtle]

Coolio that makes it a bit more worth than

Cause sometimes i just pop it to stab zerkers with me bayonette

[crude fiber]

Been enjoying sharing highlights the last couple days, started using it cause I'm trying to farm the vent/lights out missions but I might keep it after I'm dome with those

[sinful swallow]

It's the same as leave no one behind

It's kind of feels bad from a solo standpoint cause it offers you nothing

-1 point when everyone's bad/dead

But man like I said randoms who can appreciate the highlight really does make a difference

[idle swallow]

They really need to make it so the coherency ally highlight for exe stance gave half the timer refresh on teammate kills or something like that so I'm not punished for my teammates playing well (which I'm trying to facilitate when I take this node)

[drowsy leaf]

highlighting shooters for rando teams helps alot I find, people lose track of shooters all the time

[wicked epoch]

its easier to hold V and scream "SHOOT THEM YOU BLIND IMBECILES"

i find it works very well

[mighty anvil]

Right when my team gets off 😄

[last parcel]

now you're gonna get blown by a barrel

[mighty anvil]

I can do regular aurics and it wont reset right

[last parcel]

yes

[mighty anvil]

380 o_o

[stiff glacier]

Every columnus i get had like 50 in 3 ratings every time

[odd sparrow]

thats awful

[stiff glacier]

Its only the columnus autogun too

With any other ive gotten pretty good ones eventually

Even melk is on the scam ring

[pseudo pecan]

how many sniper resist till they make a diff

[stiff glacier]

I think it also ties bit health curio ratio

[pseudo pecan]

fuccck

nvm then

I'll just dodge

[stiff glacier]

I usually only get gunner or bomber resistance

[pseudo pecan]

yeah bombers can go jump off the map

[stiff glacier]

Gunners are so prevelant and bombers occasionally get you in a bind

Also

Fuck flamers focusing on downed players

[pseudo pecan]

yes lmao

those bastards

[stiff glacier]

Like the fact that they just cause the ground to burn for good moment after killing it is really frustrating

[pseudo pecan]

is there a maniac resist?

I may do that cuz I'm a dive for the revive type guy

[somber axle]

just one but you also need +34% HP (200+ HP)

[pseudo pecan]

got that covered, sah

[somber axle]

then you're good to go

[pseudo pecan]

sweg

yeah I did too 20s and one wound, tho I may switch it out for something else, depending

[mighty anvil]

What a great brick

[tame lodge]

HnR

[pseudo pecan]

noice. mine is decent ill post it here in a sec

it's not got the best blessings. but with my situation, it does pretty good. especially cuz I like to revive

okay it's got raking fire and deathspitter. so with the go for revive mindset I just clear my ads really quick and then insta kill anything that's on them trying to kill em

but that's just me.

I swear I get a get a psyker and an ogryn and I can't kill shit

[mighty anvil]

this is what I currently have

Just farming for T4 blessings atp

[pseudo pecan]

wish I had the resources

[earnest bone]

dont waste resources (now) to fish for T4 blessings

just wait for melk daily updates

or wait for crafting update

[mighty anvil]

sigh Don't ever get between a man and his gambling addiction Evan /s

[last parcel]

evan's gonna end up with a slit throat lol

[earnest bone]

that could count

[mighty anvil]

I SAW THAT

[earnest bone]

as advertising

fml

[mighty anvil]

in all seriousness i didn't know about the melk updates thank you for the knowledge

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/mask-tongue-out-tex-avery-gif-12033832333241661056

[earnest bone]

every 24 hours

tho the time is depends on server i think

[mighty anvil]

I think i bought something from melk today i got some nice blessing

[earnest bone]

i've been fishing past 8 months for T4 blessings from melk

works

[mighty anvil]

8 months O_O

[earnest bone]

not like i checked daily

[mighty anvil]

bro thats almost a fully born child

[earnest bone]

like Darktide

with crafting update it finally will reach

adulthood

[mighty anvil]

bro is trying to impregnate melks loot into birthing a t4 XD

[last parcel]

💀

[oblique totem]

What fresh hell...?

[crude fiber]

just spent 1.5 million trying to roll a good graia infantry auto. did't get one

[tough tiger]

https://imgur.com/LjAtKvH

[scarlet path]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fish-looking-phone-disappointment-gif-23326574

[tame lodge]

It's a Graia, every roll is a good roll

(totally not biased)

[crude fiber]

god roll*

started accepting below 50 mobility rolls but the perks/blessings said no

[serene bough]

wat

[last parcel]

idk

[mighty anvil]

Just had a 5 person lobby...our bot didn't leave when a 4th joined

[serene ivy]

Why kitty so mad

[tough tiger]

because captain general kitten lost his tau waifu

[earnest bone]

god bless the zealot on the left, despite using heavy MEME knife (aka garbage, who would even use that in 2k24), he saved my ass from net like 3-4 times, which saved us a run, but doing Maelstrom with 2.5 people (another zealot was DC for quite some time) is a pain

and bless lasguns

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-17566336

[lusty sapphire]

Alright alright, I'll rewatch Astartes

[mighty anvil]

why'd you crop it, i'm curious how long that run was

[earnest bone]

i always crop it

37

too much stalling vs 2+ bosses in small corridors

[mighty anvil]

was the 55 total score d/c?

[earnest bone]

yeah it was the bot

for almost entire round

and the 76 guy is like 50% dc of the map

he was there from the start

then dc'ed like 3 times during the match, probably not intended

seems like his ISP problems

[mighty anvil]

whats your build for that lasgun?

[earnest bone]

no keynodes survivalist VoC onslaught, i can send it later, going to buy some stuff for a few hours

[safe kelp]

Is wrath a good blessing for Cadian chainsword?

[austere mica]

Both chainswords are cadian, which one?

[safe kelp]

XIII

[austere mica]

Yes

[safe kelp]

So, I got lucky with savage sweep and wrath? :D

[austere mica]

Not really

Two cleave blessings is redundant

Replace savage sweep with Rampage

[safe kelp]

Welp
I don't have Rampage :D

[austere mica]

What are your perks btw

[safe kelp]

+10% damage to weak spots and +15% to flak (I think. My game is in russian :p)

[austere mica]

Change weakspot to elites or maniac, shame about the low flak roll

[safe kelp]

Oh well
There's always the next chainsword

Now I just have to look for more plasteel and diamantine :p

[hollow warren]

prime example of how effective lasguns are against carapace armour

[austere mica]

Despite that all it takes is one lucky shot

[severe gale]

now were it a hotshot that marine would be swiss cheese

[hollow warren]

I mean, they were firing a double barrel big ass las cannon on wheels

[severe gale]

in lore hotshots often can penetrate a space marine’s armor

gaunts ghosts, a hotshot longlas easily takes down a chaos marine

[midnight mesa]

Bro why the fuck does the Bolt Pistol feel like shit

Even the Bolter itself feels better to use than the Bolt pistol

[umbral scaffold]

So, about that

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-jack-black-dewey-finn-school-of-rock-explain-gif-24700075

[midnight mesa]

Oh n

[umbral scaffold]

The bolt pistol's ADS moves the gun from side to side in a pattern similar to a W. This pattern actually is running at all times, so your gun is looping around it on the background

When you ADS, the gun actually takes its current position in that loop and your ADS magnetizes there instead of the center of your screen

[midnight mesa]

But why tho

I think it's also the same on the Bolter as well

[umbral scaffold]

I believe it also has the bolter issue of that weird aim jerk that sometimes pulls your gun away before you fire

Which has been a known issue for literal months

[midnight mesa]

Why

God

Why

[umbral scaffold]

Shatfark

[midnight mesa]

At least with the Bolter I can get away with hip firing.

The Bolt Pistol feels like it's a precision weapon

[midnight mesa]

The problem is that this isn't good for precision

[umbral scaffold]

It's awful

[thorn lark]

Years

[pine snow]

man the sheer terror when you get knocked and are the only one whos actually capable of taking out bigger enemies and just watch your teammates struggle to kill a crusher as it kills everyone else

[umbral scaffold]

certified malice moment?

[pine snow]

i was actually playing on malice lol

tbh i should have expected it