veteran-class

[marble mantle]

Alright bet

Think I’m already running that anyway

[somber axle]

bring in the Hellguns

if they end up being terrible and bottom tier weapons we can call them Hotshart Lasguns

they can be the new bottom tier lasgun until half a year later they get buffed

[fair river]

That’s an interesting idea but a group of crushers would ruin your day 😭 doesn’t really suit the gameplay

[somber axle]

Infiltrate + Low Profile time

[fair river]

True

I rarely use that

[somber axle]

find a corner, plant feet and unleash BRRRRRRRRRRRRT

https://tenor.com/view/brrrrt-bret-a10-warthog-gif-18817481

[fair river]

Snipers tho

I guess that’s for someone else to worry about

[somber axle]

Recons are already filling the niche of accurate automatic lasgun

[winter grove]

A-10 pilots when they face actual air defence

[somber axle]

so you could do a braced lasgun instead

[fair river]

Yeah

[somber axle]

I'm sad we only get to see dropships

I mean I guess there's a map where, after the skyfire defenses are disabled, we see something fly in and bomb the shit out of heretics just offscreen

in like an adjacent area

...do you think they'll ever add Aeronautica Imperialis outfits as cosmetics?

the flight cap is already in game but like

not the rest

[midnight totem]

-screech-

[tall torrent]

Enclavum Baross (aegis station event) has Masozi do a bombing run

[midnight totem]

I mean, good evening'

[somber axle]

YEAH that's the one

I love that one

[midnight totem]

Hab Drekyo has a bombing run too

[somber axle]

Oh right yeah

The bridge pops

well 2 of the bridges

[tall torrent]

Hab dreyko has Masozi break the bridge (insta kill enemies)

[midnight totem]

its either that, or Masozi deliberately blows the bridge to funnel the rejects onto one ricky ass bridge blocked by maulers and crushers and ragers instead for shits and giggles

Thanks Masozi

[somber axle]

probably a little of column a and a little of column b

she might have hedged a bet with Hallowette on whether or not we'd return alive

and she might have taken the losing bet of thinking we'd die

[midnight totem]

Just her way of nudging the die slightly

anyway, up for a game?

[somber axle]

I'm down for a few matches in a bit

am dinner time before clown time

[midnight totem]

also if we get aero gear

I want void armsmen gear

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[midnight totem]

Look at this guy

magnificent

of course, knowing fatshark, the model and cosmetics will turn out like ass

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/terrific-elijah-wood-gif-3906482

[somber axle]

I like the colours

[midnight totem]

Right? Vibrant

[somber axle]

also let me do a warm up quickplay because I got off work a few hours ago and don't want to embarrass myself

[midnight totem]

oh you're ready now? (ish)

[somber axle]

yeah kinda

[midnight totem]

I'll be on in 5 minutes

alrighty!

whos gonna be up for games as well?

[somber axle]

I want to try something SILLY

ok it didn't work LMFAO

I wanted to mess with juicing a Kantrael Mk IV Infantry Lasgun to see if with Carapace, Elite, Headhunter and Infernus with a talent tree using Marksman's Focus, Exe Stance, Onslaught, Rending Strikes, Bring It Down, Close Quarters Kill Zone, Marksman and For the Emperor would let it kill Crushers effectively

the answer is not really

2.1k DPS is the highest target I can find

OH I ALMOST FORGOT

I used Chink in their Armour too

it is an abomination of a tree and it does not work LOL

[midnight totem]

lmao

[somber axle]

ok wait nvm that last attempt was 2.4k

some variance with crits

[midnight totem]

alrighty, join in on me when you're ready, and we'll go find some randoms or pubs

huzzah

I'll be in strike team 7

[somber axle]

I have time for maybe 3-4 games

After that I have to join some friends for something in FF14!

[midnight totem]

Nice

I've been tearing my hair out over making a good viper glam

[somber axle]

I've just been enjoying Pictomancer

I got it to 90 and really enjoyed the class quest story

but wow it's kinda insane what it is capable of in lore

[midnight totem]

When glam is the true endgame

cosmetic damage is true damage

Also apparently its top DPS across the board

not just in level 100 stuff

[somber axle]

Yeah someone sent me a TEA DPS chart and PCT is also top DPS there

[midnight totem]

but also in 60, 70, 80, and 90 raid tiers and I'm like "Holy shit"

[somber axle]

it's kinda wacky but considering how immobile it is as a class and how it requires a lot of time spent still it makes sense

[midnight totem]

black mages on life support

[somber axle]

it's kinda like Summoner as a concept but better too LOL

[midnight totem]

If we don't get some joiners in the next 5 minutes, wanna quickplay with pubs?

[somber axle]

yeah that's fine

I normally fall in and out of auric damnation quickplay anyway

[midnight totem]

same

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-fall-falling-bed-wake-gif-10742201593944504449

Eventually I want to fight the twins but not tonight LOL

I had to work three conventions simultaneously

[midnight totem]

brutal

[somber axle]

and it's somehow less physically, mentally and emotionally taxing than USAV

[midnight totem]

how did your job hold up with the Crowdstrike thing?

[somber axle]

afaik we were unaffected

a while back we had a cyberattack that brought down everything

people couldn't check in or out and even the fucking slot machines were down LMFAO

this time nothing has changed

we're totally fine

[midnight totem]

Nice

[somber axle]

if there's something affected further up no one's said anything to me

operations continue as normal

[midnight totem]

IT at my job wasn't affected, but my mother was flying in that weekend

8 hour delays

Guess all the airline systems are held together by exactly the systems that were affected

[somber axle]

oh also

@placid scarab join on the code in the username with James

whenever you're ready

I'm down for auric damnation quickplay or auric maelstroms

idc which

I'm just goofing off after work

that should be us yeah

yeah

my character is Miranda

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-hmm-sip-smile-look-gif-17756970

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hello-cat-peek-cat-door-cat-peek-door-gif-17361470248875227911

[midnight totem]

-waves catnip at Dylan-

[somber axle]

eventually I should do the Karnak Twins Damnation Secret Hard mode for the funny medal to stick next to my portrait

one day

not today

but eventually

[oblique totem]

I still haven't beaten the twins

[somber axle]

I haven't really attempted it tbh

LOL

I planned to do it with friends and then they stopped playing Darktide

[placid scarab]

gotten close recently

like really close

[oblique totem]

I would help, if people are willing to try.

[midnight totem]

<- has funny metal stick next to portrait 😄

[somber axle]

OH LIGHTS OUT LOL

[oblique totem]

I do not care for Lights out.

[upper lichen]

what lasgun for laser hose build?

[umbral parrot]

Invite me whenever you can! It's sooooooo fun!

[pseudo horizon]

What would you guys say is the best gun for a smoke grenade + Executioner's Stance build? Right now I'm doing pretty well with a Kantrael XII and I've tried Vraks VII in the past but I'm interested in hearing your recommendations

[somber axle]

We're not doing it tonight LOL

idk when I might attempt it but probably on a day off work

[midnight totem]

any time you want to though, if I'm on, I'll help out

[somber axle]

don't judge me I'm tired and I wanna do my dumb head empty no thoughts Smiteker build LOL

[midnight totem]

oh you're doing a smite build!

sure thing

[manic cloak]

For lasrifles, the Kantrael MG Ia is normally the preferred over the three. It has the best mix of rate of fire and breakpoints for specialists and elites for most users. That's not to say the XII isn't just fine though, and I use both anyways.

As for executioner's stance, I find that the MG Ia and the XII meet most single shot weak spot breakpoints anyways without Executioner's Stance, so it doesn't really buy you much other than a way to pick through targets in the smoke.

[somber axle]

wait one sec

smiteker time

I am lame but it's ok

[midnight totem]

you're not lame

[somber axle]

I shame Smitekers often and now I am one so that's definitely lame behavior LMFAO

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-gif-24867002

[hard cave]

knife on vet feels nice

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-shaking-shivering-trembling-gif-1815100900790237791

[hard cave]

huh,,,,

[somber axle]

oh it was in response to the gif above you

knife on Vet is good yeah

I don't think I leaned on Smite too hard

mostly just because Surge staff is so fun LOL

mostly just used it for locking down the hound packs and occasionally for horde clean up

[hard cave]

pomni

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-tadc-gif-2518361363759790716

[scarlet vessel]

thanks hadron, bolt pistol is finally usable

do i swap manaic for tier4 maniac?

[midnight totem]

Nah

Are you missing a one shot on flamers?

Also holy shit it's 2 am already

Time flies when you're killing heretics

[faint violet]

More like convince GW to allow it than bother FS.

Actually devs want keep it but GW said no.

[lusty sapphire]

Why is that tho?

Why even have body tatoos at that point lmao

[lusty sapphire]

Yes

Nothing else brings you any other breakpoints

[fiery wave]

Icky smoke

[winter grove]

Hello hi mg12 ilas main heree

You're wrong

Mg12 really needs exec stance to be effective

Even if you create specific setup for mg12 bps

[uncut pebble]

It doesn't, though, but sure.

Mk12 hits bps easily enough without needing exe stance.

Gunner 1shots are basically all you need to care about for it.

[winter grove]

Yes it does

One of two guns that does

[winter grove]

Yes

And that

You can't achieve without exe stance and/or opening salvo

[uncut pebble]

So, yeah, it doesn't need exe stance because you don't care about bps other than gunner 1taps.

[winter grove]

Like brother

I PLAY with that gun

[uncut pebble]

25% unarmored and flak with 30% weakspot damage and superiority complex should make those 1taps happen ez.

[winter grove]

I know what it can and cannot

[uncut pebble]

I'm saying this as I have one and use that exact setup.

[winter grove]

Show it without longshot

Come on

I can wait

[uncut pebble]

Let me hop on darktide real quick to confirm.

And I won't be recording anything as I don't have recording software.

[winter grove]

Then I have all rights to call your words out as pure bs

[wicked epoch]

What does a good MGIV lasgun look like?

[winter grove]

Flakiac HH + DA/Ghost

High priority dmg, stopping power and stability

[wicked epoch]

Aye then

Oh yeah, how do i get the moebian armorV

i got the helmet from the penance but i cant match it with anything

[winter grove]

Do more penances

[thorn lark]

You need 4500 pts to get full set

[lost sun]

what are guns often used for commisar vet, i like the voice of command alot but was wondering what weapon to go with them so far i got a chainsword and a recon las VI as my weapon of choice because of preference but i want to know the community overally agreement on what weapon fit a commisar vet,

[thorn lark]

Bolt pistol

[uncut pebble]

With 80 on damage and stopping power and having longshot, superiority complex, and precision strikes, rending strikes, and 25% flak/unarmored damage, at ~20 meters, gunner 1taps are possible without MF/exe stance or other outside damage buffs.

This is the exact setup I use on my infiltrate build.

[rigid pilot]

Everyone has it though

Should come with your GPU

[uncut pebble]

No, not everybody.

[rigid pilot]

Even AMD has one

[uncut pebble]

Well, then maybe I have recording software.

I dont know, tbh.

But I'm not putting that much effort into winning an internet argument.

[rigid pilot]

Nvidia game overlay has alot of features

[cosmic sun]

Almost there

[uncut pebble]

I just tested in the psykhanium to prove I'm not insane to myself, and that's enough for me.

[lost sun]

ok can u elaborate on why

[rigid pilot]

Cause it looks cool

[lost sun]

say no more

[cosmic sun]

Hey vet chat, take a look at this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c96f6df-a998-48fd-929b-f5cdd9a103b4/think-fast-chucklenuts?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[thorn lark]

Nope

On the psword you want powe cycler + sunder / bm

The point you put in sprint should go to iron will

Why duck n dive? You don't use Deadshot or stripped down

[lost sun]

because he got a big iron on his hip

[thorn lark]

Just swap that wound curio for toughness

[crimson pebble]

Is the mk2 any good

[lost sun]

i found all recon las to be good

it may lack behind in atk speed compared to vi tho

or may be i mistake with the VII, which have the slowest speed but more reliable

[thorn lark]

MK2 is a good middle of the road

[lost sun]

i also need to confirm how focus target keystone work, so i tag a guy right ? he appear all yellow like, for every 2s the stack in crease by one to the cap of 5 at base to the total of 20% dmg ? until i tag someone else or the tagged guy died

[odd sparrow]

You get stacks every 2 seconds. When you tag an enemy you apply a number of +dmg stacks equal to the stacks you had.

So if you had 3 stacks of time of tagging you apply 3 stacks

[thorn lark]

You earn stacks every 2s and by tagging you "apply" them

[odd sparrow]

The stacks on the tagged target disappears when killed or if you tag another enemy

[crimson pebble]

Thoughts in this with that mk2 and antax axe

[stoic juniper]

What's recommended for a vet shout build? I'm trying a shovel and revolver combo

[odd sparrow]

Weapon specialist is super good with revolver

[thorn lark]

I would put that point in Deadshot in determination. Trust me bro

[odd sparrow]

Allows you to reload a bullet after every melee kill if you hotswap weapons a lot

[lost sun]

OH so o stored it on myself and i spend all of it when i tag a guy

[crimson pebble]

Wheres that at

[thorn lark]

You don't need desperado

[odd sparrow]

Yes

[thorn lark]

It's not a rashad

[lost sun]

that make more sense thanks

[thorn lark]

This is what I run

With hh + infernus

[lost sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c96fe8a-362b-4ac1-b539-d8134292e5a5/recon-commisar-build-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

the build i made last night after i got my good rolls gun

[thorn lark]

Onslaught + focus + infernus helps against big targets. Determination helps procing headhunter

I don't think recon benefits a lot from ws.

[lost sun]

ws ?

my old build is just me picking everything i could at the middle

[thorn lark]

But on the other hand, antax is kinda slow... So maybe look for another melee weapon of that bothers you

[thorn lark]

Weapon specialist

I was talking to Cole

[lost sun]

oh ok

i got that after u mentioned antax cus i dont have anything called antax in my build

[thorn lark]

Ok so

[lost sun]

i liked the shape it made

looked like a wing

[thorn lark]

You don't really need those points left and right

[lost sun]

on the right side yeah that i agree

[thorn lark]

And if you run a recon 6d... You want shock trooper, determination and more ammo.

And headhunter

Since last patch I am not sure longshot is a good investment... Maybe @tall torrent has an idea

[lost sun]

determination is the one gave me immune to suppressing like by the gunner ?

[thorn lark]

Yep

[lost sun]

the reason i didnt pick it is i often not see myself being suppressed, but that is only on malice

i cant say for highter diff

[thorn lark]

That helps with headshot thus exhilarating takedown and hh

Oh

That happens a lot above Malice.

[lost sun]

i guess i will taka way the top 4 point then

[thorn lark]

Only in death does duty ends is nice but if you use voc preventively and whenever it's available... A lot less people are dying.

[hollow warren]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c943701-7f41-4503-9e05-dd85d332ef13/scab-gunner

if you plan on using the VId recon, I recommend using this build of mine. Been running it for some time now and it's a barrel of fun

[thorn lark]

I like the concept behind it but most of the time that will end in someone being rezzed at the wrong place and the wrong time

[lost sun]

i got the same thought yesterday, like do i really want to lose 33% area of buff and 15s to get a revive ?

i also feel like this cause me to hoard the skill

rather than use it regularly

tough one for me

[hollow warren]

Doesn't have "Determined" but from experience I find you don't really need it as much. If you really need it, swap out "Focus Fire" for it.

[thorn lark]

Exactly. Spamming voc is the way.

[lost sun]

the concept for me when i play vet that i wanted to keep my team always at tiptop shape and reward my team aggressivenesss

[thorn lark]

Until it's nerfed

I shout when: people are low on toughness / there's a surprise spawn / I hear a busster

And in combat, every time it's available.

[lost sun]

yeah same for me

[thorn lark]

It helps when it matters

But you can live without... Especially if you're playing other classes. It's just comfy

[lost sun]

while i would love to get the focus fire, i dont found myself got the time to get it to 8, in the heat of combat i would just ping kill ping kill ping kill

[hollow warren]

I never gave it a shot really. I can perfectly aim without any wobble even if I get shot by several Reapers. As long as I hit weakspots for toughness regen and my toughness doesn't break, I'm fine

[hollow warren]

That's just what I'm running with, you're free to adjust it to your liking

[thorn lark]

What weapon are you using?

[hollow warren]

in terms of equipment, though Headhunter and +5% ranged crit chance is a must

[hollow warren]

like the link says - recon VId

[thorn lark]

I use mostly boltgun on zealot and the suppression is atrocious when you're adsing. But I live with it and snipe... I just need to reposition myself.

Suppression has an effect on the 6d but it's not as worse as using a boltgun or bolt pistol

[winged warren]

bolt pistol really sucks
They should have at least 1 peirce against bulwarks

[lost sun]

only my vet are at 30, my zealot is 20 and my ogryn is 14, dont care for psyker, vet will always be my main and zealot is my second, but i feel like i need to know melee or git gud more with zealot to be efficient, i often see myself take way to much health dmg on malice compared to nearly none on vet

[hollow warren]

idk how this works or how it happens, but as a vet I feel like there's literally no suppression defect when ADS on a recon lasgun right until your toughness breaks

[thorn lark]

Zealot at 30 is a much better experience imho

Vet can do very well without keystone

[winged warren]

frankly, its because vet is kind of OP with all the TDR and VOC

[lost sun]

yeah, i loved it

[thorn lark]

Also what's you build? I am zealot main.

[lost sun]

uh i pick only the left side

[hollow warren]

no love for psyker?

[lost sun]

cus i like the image of the guy shouting holding a blade chopping shit

[lost sun]

1. yeah, i not often a fan of ranged glass cannon in any game ever, always been a fighter human guy
2. i got a friend who main psyker already

i play ogryn because of the rock

jsut the rock

is friendly rock

[hollow warren]

a faint blue aura appears around your head as I slowly charge brain burst

[winged warren]

its more like you need to get better at DT in general than zealot

Anyway, imo this is the basics of DT #zealot-class message

[lost sun]

NOT IF I SHOOT U FIRST AAAAAA, though i do see the potential of psyker build, particularly assail i think ?, feel like im controlling flying needle poping head, though i heard it was bonker once

[winged warren]

playing VOC TDR vet isn't really playing darktide in my opinion

[hollow warren]

Psyker is my 2nd most played class and properly using Smite on high level difficulties can be an absolute gamechanger. Just invest in toughness regen anytime you gain/quell peril, 3 toughness curios and keep your distance

[thorn lark]

I would advise you to try this

Take a finesse weapon with shred, like a chainsword

Good mobility, excellent hors clear, good single target dmg

[lost sun]

to quote ur check list lets go
do you stick with team - i tried to, usually go for a duo buddy thing cus the random guy either way ahead or dying in the back, my zealot friend is always in the front half way through the map

do you know your shove is 360- i thoughtit was 180
do you know you can melee through walls - didnt know this was fromsoftgame
Do you know kill priority - i tried to identify as a vet and kill them as fast as possible
do you know how to dodge trapper -half the time
do you know how to dodge and shove dog - yes
do you know how to shove poxburster - yes
Do you know how to stand behind a wall when you get shot - yes
do you know you can dodge and/or slide bullets - practicing
do you know you can side dodge to slide - yes but doesnt do much
if its yes to all, its build

[winged warren]

its not only about killing them asap but its about knowing which one you should kill first as well

[thorn lark]

https://youtu.be/1IBfWZfShkk?si=9M11dQN7-bAeTs7F

This video is a bit outdated but you need to learn about positioning

[winged warren]

trapper dodge should be 100% as well

[hollow warren]

Do you know you can just stop resisting and accept the gifts of grandfather Nurgle?

[lost sun]

my main so far are sniper and trapper, after that are burster flamer guy, then gunner after that are melee guys

[lost sun]

NEVER

[thorn lark]

Crits will help a lot with the chainsword and you also get 50 dr

[lost sun]

i bashed one of those mauler guy helmet off, ur blessing is a scam

[winged warren]

honestly its situationally dependent, but yeah you would want to kill the disablers first (trapper, dog ||mutie technically but hes a joke that can be cheese with standing close to a wall||)

like if you know a horde of zombies is closing in, you prob want to shoot the bomber first instead of the trapper that is far

[thorn lark]

Man I hate when nobody is taking care of specialists...

[winged warren]

also i would advice try to ask different people the same questions, especially from different class channels

each class channel have their own "mentality" in a way, and you might be lead to believe a certain answer is the best

[hollow warren]

the Scab faction aren't really Nurgle worshipers from what I can tell. They didn't accept the gifts just yet

[winged warren]

||of course, psyker channel is the best channel||

[lost sun]

they face said other wise or it could just be classic hive city boy face

[winged warren]

3x bomber during that one update

[lost sun]

or it could be due to the force hammer

if thats the latter then sorry for not being sorry

[hollow warren]

nah, their faces are just "battle scared" or something. They don't have the "sick and rotting" look, like the Dreg faction does

[winged warren]

also, don't get too used to vet.
genuinely might harm your enjoyment of the game

[fiery wave]

He usually is

[winter grove]

I know

[lost sun]

but i like the vet
, both my zealot and ogryn both go for melee build

though i said melee ogryn, often see my self brace my ranged weapon and scream dakka

all for the emprah im sure

[winged warren]

i said that because vet is way too tanky, just like you said voc vet could take less damage than a zealot
so you might find that the other classes are too squishy etc

if you enjoying the game tho thats good

but you shouldn't have vet as your bar of standard thats all

[lost sun]

aight duly noted

[winter grove]

Well, moebian 6th isn't fully nurgle worshippers

Vast majority of the scabs are sane

They're still traitors

[hollow warren]

from their design they don't seem to be Nurgle worshipers like at all. Only the scab gunner has the "3 eye visor" that reminds of the Nurgle symbol. other than that, yeah they're just chaos heretics

[lost sun]

thematically tho i do prefer zealot, vet come very close second, screaming in the emperor name as u charge head first to a beast a nurgle and survive because you believed the god-emperor so hard that it litterally proc a miracle

[wicked epoch]

Anyone know a good kasrkin build?

[uncut pebble]

Wasn't this time!

[thorn lark]

What's that

[lost sun]

is one of the imperial regiment i think

well according to the wiki of the Kasrkin on the fandom wiki it would seem they use plasma gun

so there is that

heavy plasma and i also see a guy command other heavy plasma guy using a big infantry las ?

[pastel yew]

in terms of kill priority?

[lost sun]

yeah that is how i often goes, though like average player said, it also depend on the situation tho

[pastel yew]

yeah I dont really think snipers are high priority given how useless they are though

bomber when close > trapper > flamer > sniper > gunner

[uncut pebble]

Specialists shouldn't necessarily always be prioritized.

If it isn't harassing you, sometimes it's better to kill gunners first.

[pastel yew]

flamers are definitely higher prio than gunners always

just because of the displacement

gunners and snipers are just sorta usless at all times unfortunately

snipers should probably have their shot speed increased

by a fair bit

[uncut pebble]

I mean, if it isn't bothering you, then I don't see the reason in prioritizing a flamer.

Typically the person it's going after has it dead by the time you have its head lined up.

[wicked epoch]

cadian veteran guardsman

Hotshot lasguns, hellguns, plasmas, bolters

[acoustic moon]

theres a decent one if u go executioners and get the refresh talent

after that u go focus fire and you can just do an insane amount of damage to targets u mark

that works with a lot of the weapons kasrkin could use but i use the plasma gun and its bonkers lol

[pastel yew]

because gunners will never bother you

or shouldnt

the displacement from a flamer makes it harder to protect the nerds

[uncut pebble]

What world are you living in where gunners don't pin you to the floor or rip your ogryn teammates to shreds?

[last parcel]

maybe i likebring pinned to the floor

[acoustic moon]

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-jacket-stanley-kubrick-zoom-soldier-derpy-gif-5146544

[faint beacon]

State of auric players is really testing my mental fortitude

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-surprise-attack-epic-embed-gif-21517708

[pastel yew]

the world where that doesn't happen apparently?

either your positioning isnt great, your ttk isnt great, or somehow we're from alternate dimensions where gunners are radically different

you know they can only hit stagger you like that if you have no toughness

?

[pastel yew]

I mean... wishing for them to be better is a real monkeys paw

a team of good players is enough to invalidate the game so

I don't mind it

though it is frustrating when there are objectives that can be fiddly when solo

[marble mantle]

What perks should I put on this?

I have WS, a crit chance node, and reciprocity for knife anyway, so the crit chance is not bad innately

Might just do flak and crit chance I know someone suggested that yesterday

[uncut pebble]

Ditch infernus, first, imo.

Considering you don't have headhunter, on top of that blessing already being mid, that's a terrible blessing to have.

Also, low collateral on the recon that has cleave?

I'd turn it into blessing food for deathspitter 4 if you can find a better one.

[last parcel]

ahhh oh nooo my gun has slightly less stagger to a degree that doesn’t even affect the game ahhhh

[uncut pebble]

I may not correctly remember what collateral does...

[last parcel]

it’s just stagger

you’re probably thinking about penetration which affects adms

[uncut pebble]

Oh. It's a dump stat for recons, then, ig?

[last parcel]

yeah, stability too

[uncut pebble]

Stability is a dump stat regardless.

Just pull down on your mouse/joystick and stability is irrelevant.

[marble mantle]

I know it’s a balancing thing between the two revolvers

But if we were any less smart I think we could legally be considered incompetent. Why do we simply not just use the same reloading mechanism as we do on the fan hammer revolver for the zarona

[grand perch]

Techpriest said so

[austere mica]

Because you don’t get issued speedloaders or something

[tame lodge]

Because if you were supposed to use a speedloader they would have issued a speedloader

Now here's a speedloader and one Agripina Revolver

[pseudo fiber]

Because you'll anger the machine spirit

[uncut pebble]

Honestly that's probably the most likely answer.

Assuming it has a machine spirit, that is.

[tame lodge]

When you're so incompetent at reloading that the machine spirit has to intervene

[uncut pebble]

I wonder how machine spirits feel about ogryns?

[pastel yew]

tech heresy

just uhhh... squint n don't think too hard about it

on topic of stupid shit though

if the boltgun has that much sway and kick to it

maybe it should have a stock?

[pseudo fiber]

I mean probably

[grand perch]

Can't add stock, arms will fall off you see

[marble mantle]

Real

[tame pollen]

Hi, Ive been trying to get "Make every shot count" for two weeks now, started with a revolver until someone suggested a low ammo plasma rifle.
I am really careful where I shoot and also announce in advance before the round starts, and so far that part has worked out.
But even in rounds where I am 100% certain I didnt miss (always red hit marker) I did not get the penance.
Someone suggested it could be because I played heresy and it's a malice penance, but I looked and it's heresy.
Is there anything I might have missed out on? It's getting frustrating and I am on the verge of cheesing it.

[placid portal]

To cheese or not to cheese, that is the question

but unfortunately I am lactose intolerant

[acoustic moon]

U could cheese it, but then was it rly a challenge in the first place??

[radiant chasm]

Use a shotgun

Lawby or kanty, 1 pellet hitting any enemy counts as a hit

[rigid pilot]

You don't even need 100% accuracy

[acoustic moon]

Ye it’s 90% u could just be getting unlucky

[rigid pilot]

Yea shotgun on heresy, just spend it all at the end

[acoustic moon]

Also make sure survivalist is off

[rigid pilot]

Make sure you don't pick up any ammo or your team doesnt have any vet ammo aura

[faint beacon]

Just had a match loss cause of a silent trapper

FS I beg of you please fix the sfx issues

[wicked epoch]

Whats a good way to have a hotshot lasgun

Without it actually being ingame

im taking my kasrkin larping to a new level

[tame pollen]

thanks ill try that

[tame pollen]

it is off 🙂

maybe i am indeed unlucky. some failures are definately due to excessive killwhoring teammates tho. announceing works most of the time but not always. some people go out of their way and make a detour to my location just to GET THAT HERETIC KILL!!!

[tame pollen]

btw there is "lactose free" cheese for that particular condition, not indeed free but added lactase for the amount of lactose.

[acoustic moon]

[pseudo fiber]

Recon for Las weapons and the Graia brauto for the hipfirey feel.

[wicked epoch]

Gotcha, never heard of the recon lasgun outside of darktide before though

[pseudo fiber]

The elysian drop troops use it. At least that's one of the examples I can think of

[placid portal]

damn I can't believe Accratan Lasguns have 0 recoil

[wicked epoch]

How does it equate to being a hotshot ecquivalent?

I thought hotshots and hellguns typically had more damage

[analog mural]

It's not an equivalent, it's just the closest we got in this game

[pseudo fiber]

Want to shoot lots of lasers quickly then that's your gun

[wicked epoch]

Ah, i see

[analog mural]

Th scab gunners actually have hotshots

But we don't get em

[tame lodge]

It shoots
It's auto
Lots of ammo mag

[pseudo fiber]

Ran out. No more :(

[wicked epoch]

why do the traitors get them but we dont >:0

[placid portal]

so is there reason to use kant over accratan since accratan has 0 recoil accuracy?

[wicked epoch]

meta wise or preference wise

Im not good with the meta but i can tell you the kantrael is damn fun to use

[placid portal]

them mobian traitors raided tertium's weapon cache 😔

[wicked epoch]

those karkin bastards

[placid portal]

it is, but I hate having meat fingers whenever I use semis

[wicked epoch]

my .75cal bolt shell entering a scab gunners forehead:

[wicked epoch]

Lately my fingers feel heavy and weird now

Might have to actually install a full auto mod eventually

Or use a different finger

[placid portal]

I no longer click using my fingers instead I use my shoulders to apply weight

[wicked epoch]

How does that even work?

[placid portal]

oh mb, forearms

I don't move my fingers to click

[wicked epoch]

Ill give that a try one of these days

i notice sometimes gunners can tank my bolter

and im wondering how the fuck

Why cant it 1 shot body them

excuse my dumb noobie esque question

[radiant chasm]

Because blessed by nurgle

And bolter is a finesse weapon currently

[analog mural]

FS balancing

[radiant chasm]

It goes for heads

[wicked epoch]

oh crap i found this on the reddit about the scab gunner having the hellgun

Disclaimer: That's a volleygun, which is basically a Lasgun LMG. There's another, bigger version of a volleygun called a "Multilaser" ((Don't search it...)) which is basically a Lasgun minigun.

Hellguns/Hotshot Lasguns are Lasguns heavily modified with advanced technologies made to fire with the piercing equivalent of a fucking bolter. These beastly weapons are capable of burning holes in marine armor and butchering whole armies alike. Slower rate of fire... but more accurate and with more piercing capabilities.

[wicked epoch]

call me odd but its easier for me to hit heads with the kantrael than it is the bolter

[radiant chasm]

Kantrael is a planet/brand

[faint beacon]

Didn't even realize how close I was to this

[wicked epoch]

thats what i call the kantrael 12 atleast

[radiant chasm]

Mk12 inflas kanty k

[wicked epoch]

Thats what i use

[radiant chasm]

Cause there is also kantrael shotgun and a few other weapons

[wicked epoch]

i should name my guns at one point

name my mk12 “kacy”

kacy the lasgun

[radiant chasm]

But anyways, attempts to balance the bolter moved it to being a crit/headshot weapon

[wicked epoch]

kinda ass backwards though..

its a mass reactive shell

its gonna bisect people

fatshark !!

[hearty panther]

and it does

[wicked epoch]

still annoying when theres a gunner and i pelt him with like 5 shells

Because for some reason he tanked the first 4

oh nooo 500 ragers behind me

[analog mural]

I'm not a 40k weapon expert but from a cursory google search volleyguns are a type of hotshot lasgun

[radiant chasm]

He’s not tanking 5 unless your bolter is completely bricked, you are glancing shots

[wicked epoch]

dang

[hearty panther]

or landing forearm shots with incredible accuracy

[radiant chasm]

He’s getting hit by the explosion/stagger area

[wicked epoch]

must explain it then, its not the gun its a me issue

[hearty panther]

which shouldnt be a thing really, but it is

[wicked epoch]

I do remember shooting him center mass though

center mass or groin area

dont ask why the groin

Its a tactical decision

[hearty panther]

no its reasonable

[radiant chasm]

Just aim for the head pretty sure bolter with surgical can hit all the BPs for basic elites

[radiant chasm]

I only do this with ogryn rumbler

[hearty panther]

back when revolver still sucked youd get hard cucked landing a hit on forearms, and enemies raise their gun up to shoot

so the head or the dick were your best options

[radiant chasm]

Because it makes the grenade drop straight down after hitting

[wicked epoch]

so for my bolter exe stance build

Sometimes what i do is

I get into exe stance and just crouch full auto hordes of elites

[winter grove]

Add hotshot lasguns

[wicked epoch]

or i just shoot them single fire

Am i using it correctly

i end up using the chainsword for hordes

[hearty panther]

if you were a zealot

[radiant chasm]

Also if you dont want to use surgical/don’t care you are 100% accurate entering ads

[wicked epoch]

im a very zealous guardsman

[radiant chasm]

So you can flick aim and always land a headshot

[hearty panther]

vet gets much more out of aiming it in single fire

[wicked epoch]

ill do that then!

[hearty panther]

i basically only do magdump for monsters and only if i have the ammo to spare cause its really just for fun

[wicked epoch]

thanks for the pro tips bros, for some reason i found it easy to kill groups of maulers with exe stance and kacy the kantrael XII but i struggled with the bolter

[hearty panther]

you can hipfire it, precisely. Two shot bursts

[wicked epoch]

But alot of the time with the bolter i see crowds of ragers and stuff, insta delete

[wicked epoch]

i tend to not use the hipfire

[hearty panther]

but for something like a crusher, surgical and headshots take it much further

[wicked epoch]

Its either aim, or just brrt

[wicked epoch]

Do i enter exe stance as much as possible when i see alot of elites?

[hearty panther]

ye

[wicked epoch]

Like how you wanna spam VOC as much as possible

Ah, usually i keep it for wmergencies

[hearty panther]

Xstance doesn't really bail you out of problems

It solves things before they become one

[wicked epoch]

Ah, ive been playing all wrong this whole time then

Thanks for this man

[lusty sapphire]

Exe stance will be up by the time you finish your current exe stance in an auric fight

No point in saving

[wicked epoch]

I never go above standard heresy

Keeps things fun for me

[lusty sapphire]

Doesn't change much since 2/3 specials will still refund you enough cdr by the time you are done with the current times

30s is really not that much

[wicked epoch]

Looks like ill be spamming it then

[serene bough]

on zealot magdumping after FotF is still viable

kind of makes sense that vet uses it for more precise hits whereas zealot just unleashes the full cartridge, albeit i think bolter could use some buffs

[radiant chasm]

What

No it isn’t

Fotf ranged interaction was removed lol

[serene bough]

?

you sure

[radiant chasm]

Yes

[hearty panther]

very

[serene bough]

since when

[radiant chasm]

Sotmg

[tame lodge]

Since the 25th

Now Shroudfield is your ranged option

[radiant chasm]

Zealot can magdump with the decreased recoil after dodging talent but it’s ehh still

[tame lodge]

[serene bough]

interesting

[radiant chasm]

It works on vet and the only way to balance bolter is to release it’s variants

[coral willow]

it kinda is because you still get the attack speed bonus :/

[serene bough]

because ive used it a few times to clear crusher clusters and thought it was at least decent

[radiant chasm]

So vet and zealot can have their preference and be balanced around

[radiant chasm]

Attack speed barely helps magdumping and can have you wasting shots

[radiant chasm]

Yea like 3-4

When before pinning nerf it used to be 12-13

[coral willow]

it does help smh

its funnnnnnyyyyy

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-tiktok-gif-25591053

[coral willow]

https://tenor.com/view/kurosaki-koyuki-koyuki-blue-archive-zoom-pink-gif-9061034423321788500

i will take every oppertunity to post blue archive

[radiant chasm]

It’s simply not decent on zealot because it’s balanced around vet currently

[coral willow]

well what isnt

i guess knife

:/

[hard cave]

hello fellow veterans

[radiant chasm]

Bolter is the most prevalent example

[hard cave]

how do we feel have the death claw blades

[wicked epoch]

why dont they just give me a karkin cawl pattern bolt rifle and be done with it

Ill just tell the ogryn to hold it for me while i shopt it

[coral willow]

because thats a space marine exclusive

[wicked epoch]

and then i reload it while hes holding it

bloody well good teamwork

[radiant chasm]

Bring anti armor, and it has sad flak damage but otherwise you can parry the world

[wicked epoch]

Thats the joke

i have the ogryn hold it while i pull the trigger

[tame lodge]

Like an artillery piece lmao

[coral willow]

i actually wonder if cawl decide to make human patterns

lol

[wicked epoch]

“no you slab aim OVER THERE!!”

[wicked epoch]

Exactly

[wicked epoch]

when guard sells enough maybe

[coral willow]

i want the new plasma gun

[serene bough]

i mean yeah, thats balanced

[coral willow]

bro stop speaking facts

[wicked epoch]

Lets get the weird ugly bullshit off the desolators and slap it on an ogryn

[serene bough]

3-4 crushers per mag is still pretty good for mag dumping, and it's even better against unyielding

[hard cave]

new orgyn weapon is just a ratling sniper on their shoulder

[wicked epoch]

i get 1-2 per mag what

Then again i just hit body and shoulder

[wicked epoch]

perfect

are all the cool cosmetics locked behind the commodores?

or does the commissary change every once in a blue moon?

[hard cave]

instead of firing it, youre locked only to melee and it prioritizes marked enemies - and prioritizing enemies marked by you first

[hard cave]

I think the commodore changes every two weeks

[pseudo fiber]

Commissary doesn't change commodore changes every 2 weeks on a Thursday

Next one is this Thursday. Huzzah.

[wicked epoch]

Im too broke for alice’s cool stuff

[hard cave]

watch is be complete ass

or krieg

[wicked epoch]

Forced to buy from the servitor

[coral willow]

blue moon never came basically

[wicked epoch]

blue moon saw me standing alone

without a dream in my heart

without a love of my own

[hard cave]

praying one day the 21st moebian drip is brought back, need more boys in blue

[coral willow]

and said fuck it im not helping this guy

penance cosmecits are cool tho

farm those instead

[wicked epoch]

basically yes

[coral willow]

unless you already got to 4500

[wicked epoch]

karkin broke

[radiant chasm]

Need to hit heads

[wicked epoch]

Ive been bootlicking sister prine to reach that

[wicked epoch]

Will do

[coral willow]

even them 3 is best i feel like

[wicked epoch]

But nooo sister prine hates me because im cutthroat cadian

[coral willow]

unless you specifically try to pop duelist

which you should but yknow

[hard cave]

Hoping they add more penances or just make the loyalist helmet and mask combo locked behind a specific penance

[coral willow]

one day

[hard cave]

its the one vet helmet all over again

[wicked epoch]

which vet helmet

[hard cave]

the promo art

[wicked epoch]

LMAO THAT ONE

[pseudo fiber]

They'll make it 4.6k (not cope)

[wicked epoch]

with the little holes in the head

Isnt the cover art helmet the atomna pattern one?

Theres like 2 penance helmets that are like the cover art

[hard cave]

its this helmet lmao

[wicked epoch]

One with the skateboard head and the actual good one

[wicked epoch]

Yeah lol

[hard cave]

it was in the game files for years and they finally added it like

4 or 5 months ago

[wicked epoch]

LMAOOOO

I just want kasrkin armor

[coral willow]

the promo art cosmetic was only added in the penance update

[hard cave]

now I'm waiting for the moebian loyalist helmet and mask combo, since the orgyn variant is still in the files

[coral willow]

the cadian vest we got is fucking coo tho

[limber karma]

what is ranged "finese" power

[pseudo fiber]

The cadian vest is really cool

[wicked epoch]

The sentry uniform?

The one with one missing shoulder

[hard cave]

Wasn't the karskin armor like the first commodore item

[wicked epoch]

and the purity seals

[pseudo fiber]

Yes but it was red.

[wicked epoch]

im broke and cant buy it

i want a free one

[pseudo fiber]

Then we got the camo one recently.

The green one still hasn't happened.

[wicked epoch]

i already bought the damn game i want an unlockable one damnit

[coral willow]

camo one is probably gonna be the closest

i bought it for that reason

[wicked epoch]

I want a penance that makes me get a cool kasrkin armor

Rahhh

[hard cave]

shout out to fatshark making sure mtxs worked day 1 as opposed to the servers

[wicked epoch]

real tbh

[pseudo fiber]

Fatshark gimme.

[wicked epoch]

We dont even have hellguns

[coral willow]

sm2 guardsmen cosmetic would come out first tbh

"your very own guardsmen pet DLC"

[pseudo fiber]

True I would like to see that too though!

[wicked epoch]

peep my drip

Absolute unadulterated unrestricted cadian drip

[coral willow]

i dont like that helm tbh

[wicked epoch]

but w h y

[pseudo fiber]

Put the goggles on the top and it's killer imho

[coral willow]

every helm in this game looks wierd

[wicked epoch]

agree but we dont have goggl

[coral willow]

fuckin

[wicked epoch]

more like each and every fucking veteran helm is the same one

[hard cave]

I dislike the curved bolter mag so much

[wicked epoch]

same scar, same dirt, same everything

[wicked epoch]

Its the normal bolter mag

[radiant chasm]

Weakspot and crit damage

[hard cave]

ik, I prefer the straight version on the ordo docket red and blue one

[wicked epoch]

Fair enuf

[pseudo fiber]

I mean maybe you don't.

[wicked epoch]

I personally like it

[hard cave]

the red bolter skin is actually amazing for being achievable in game

[wicked epoch]

How get

[hard cave]

what have they done to you by beloved 21st zealot

[wicked epoch]

HOW GET

[coral willow]

pay 2 play

[pseudo fiber]

For the drip

[coral willow]

or that mod yes

[pseudo fiber]

At least for goggle + mask

[coral willow]

usually makes you crash faster

[pseudo fiber]

Helmet on its own is Commodore

[wicked epoch]

how about the full kasrkin cammo

[hard cave]

can't use ftd on geforenow

[wicked epoch]

cami

camo

[coral willow]

existance

[wicked epoch]

Did homie gag himself

[coral willow]

current selling

[pseudo fiber]

No it's gone

[wicked epoch]

Broke

Unable

[pseudo fiber]

Went away 2 weeks ago

[wicked epoch]

Im going to sweden and taking away their meatballs

[coral willow]

huh

oh well

wait for 2 years until it sells again

[pseudo fiber]

Darktide board game 2!

Then we'll get it

[limber karma]

is there a weapon to use with the 33% crit chance per stack on "weapon specialist"?

[pseudo fiber]

Revolver

Shotgun (any of them but Hacker is best)
Bolt pistol

[limber karma]

it stacks 10 times, can't think of a weapon to use with the 330% crit chance on only the next shot while having attack speed as well

330% seems like overkill too lol

[radiant chasm]

It’s mostly for the extension nodes the 10 stacks

Only need 3 for the guaranteed crit

[limber karma]

ah okay

[coral willow]

it is

cause there is no critstacking

[tame lodge]

Flechette Man stopper WS special shot Lawbringer

It sucks that you'll have to reload the special but eh

Meme material

[coral willow]

i use normal shots tbh

idk what special shot exactly does

i assume it has slightly different stats

from normal shots

[pseudo fiber]

Beeg

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ikhmB9gpwvJ5cnGiU/d1337HKA9Y7Q?invite=cr-MSxjU2EsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

I will never understand the sudden rise in Woundgryn players

and this just always happens

lmao

[pseudo fiber]

I fucking love wounds

[radiant chasm]

one micro celebrity dt youtuber did it

[faint beacon]

Who

Who spoke of this blasphemy

[radiant chasm]

i forgo (i don't care

hard for me to respect dt ytubers after all the lacerate bs zealot chat has to go through on a weekly basis

[pseudo fiber]

The subreddit contributes too

[radiant chasm]

ogryn is a tank class, you should run in and take all the fire and aggro!

(nevermind going down in the higher diffs is a massive team risk

[pseudo fiber]

See that's what the wounds are for so you can go down more and therefore get revived more

[grand perch]

You have some toilet paper stuck to your hips

[coral willow]

tbh

martydom ogryn would be awesome

[faint beacon]

Literally I will never understand that mindset when you should worry more about either Toughness or Health depending on what your build needs more in that moment

Possibly stamina if you’re literally any human class

[coral willow]

i do wanna do

9 stam ogryn

with fullly decked out block efficiency and a shield

[faint beacon]

That’s honestly possible

You’d probably have to get either your toughness or HP from the smaller bonuses on the curios

[coral willow]

probably

90 toughness ogryn is unbearable

75 less so

[faint beacon]

I mean tbh I don’t really think you’d need gunner res?

Cause you can hold that shield up for a while if you’re doing block eff or Stamina stacking

Why worry about getting hit when you can just not get hit at all

[pseudo fiber]

I personally run 3 21% health curios with +5% health on them all.

[radiant chasm]

me too

[tame pollen]

Got it 🙂

[paper grove]

What blessings should i swap for the higher rated one? i cant decide

[uncut pebble]

You want to keep the one on the right, yeah? You want to keep Gets Hot! on there.

[hard cave]

gets hot my beloved

plamas gun is so fun with weapon specialist

[uncut pebble]

Frankly I'd leave the blessings alone and change the perks.

[paper grove]

Yh thats the new one im not sure if i should take Blaze away and swap that for something else

[uncut pebble]

The 2nd blessing doesn't matter nearly as much as having Gets Hot! does.

[hard cave]

#veteran-class message

[paper grove]

Ah thats handy

[uncut pebble]

Fell just short on the damage %.

Very unfortunate.

[clear lantern]

it's fine.

[uncut pebble]

This is true. There are a number of ways to make the bps that the wanted damage % could make.

[clear lantern]

or just give it to hadron and obtain blessing

[uncut pebble]

Mark target, psyker elite aura, many things.

Could feed it to Hadron for Gets Hot! t4, too.

[paper grove]

Thats just it im thinking of obtaining "blaze away" and swapping it out for "shattering"

[hard cave]

anyone know how to build this?

[clear lantern]

good weapon with a Mk2 blessing; shame.

[hard cave]

Id change the perks tbh

[uncut pebble]

Holy crap almost a perfect roll.

[paper grove]

Yeh planned on that

[paper grove]

can always be swapped if available

[uncut pebble]

I second this. Flak + elite and find a way to make up for the missing damage %.

[cosmic sun]

Hey Vet Chat, a friend of mine is dropping the game since he can't afford game pass anymore. What would be a good message to send along with a steam gift?

[hard cave]

does he own the game on steam or only through game pass

[cosmic sun]

Only on gamepass

[tame pollen]

"only in death duty ends"

[hard cave]

because u can play the game on geforce now if you own it for free

[tame pollen]

😉

[paper grove]

"ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY END"

[cosmic sun]

Like i said, only on gamepass, so does that still work?

[hard cave]

uhhh

no, unless they outright own the game on xbox w Xbox live

sorry, not much of help

help,,,,

[paper grove]

Gonna see how she fairs in-game then ill decide if i wanna change a blessing

[paper grove]

heres mine

[hard cave]

This is almost identical to the one I have with the exception of a slightly better roll and stat spread w unyeilding instead of elite

[uncut pebble]

Mk3, therefore scrap for weight of fire. Really, though, it just needs surgical as the other blessing and you can change unyielding to whatever you want (or upgrade it to t4) if you have no other good helbore.

[hard cave]

I can't remember the last time I've used a helbore lmao

[uncut pebble]

I am anti mk3 helbore because I cannot poke ragers in the face to shut them up.

[paper grove]

Nice, my previous was infested and critical chance

[uncut pebble]

Pain.

[paper grove]

I actually liked it tbh i rarely had issue

It was mostly for large pox hordes bosses

[cosmic sun]

Fuck it we ball

[hard cave]

plasma gun on pox horde,,,,

[hard cave]

WAIT

PROGRESS DOESNT TRANSFER

[cosmic sun]

Eh, worst case scenario he has to level his vet again

Dude only played Vet

[hard cave]

ok

[paper grove]

worked a treat

[hard cave]

Also I don't think there's crossplay either between steam and microsoft

[cosmic sun]

I mean

We played together so there definitely is

[uncut pebble]

Xbox does have crossplay with PC.

[clear lantern]

because it's still microsoft's backend infastructure

windows vs. windows

[pseudo fiber]

There is

[clear lantern]

I think Sony runs on a form of Linux

[hard cave]

oh, is there steam and xbox crossplay?

[pseudo fiber]

Ye

[clear lantern]

you never seen those globe icons on players?

[hard cave]

no

[clear lantern]

oh; you see it on the lobby post-game; it means they're crossplayers I think

[hard cave]

but I also just re-picked the game up when they released the enforcers set

[hard cave]

only seen steam names

[clear lantern]

yeah the steam icon is going to be more ubiquitous for sure

oh shit new space marine 2 thingie dropped 45 minutes ago

[paper grove]

what thingy?

[clear lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rR_9o-4hAI

that engine they made to support swarm rendering looks really impressive

[paper grove]

Indeed they do look neat

I am going to wait a little for it tho as i wanna see what the reviews are like

[pseudo fiber]

It looks so visually cool and impressive which always has the twist of running terribly from recent games sooo

I hope it runs well

[hearty panther]

hope they get the combat together

honestly tho, not at all confident about it

[paper grove]

Hence why im waiting. If its terrible I might have to skip it

[hearty panther]

maybe the story is really good and makes up for it ... 🤔

[clear lantern]

I really enjoyed how the first one went; Nemeroth QTE fight notwithstanding.

I liked the team, and how they complemented each other. I liked Lt. Mira and her characterization.

[shadow urchin]

I am beginning to think the Agrippa Revolver was made for Veteran. Been having a lot more fun with it than I did on zealot.

[tame lodge]

You see
Ranged weapon goes hard on the ranged focused character

[faint beacon]

Honestly it clicked to me

[tame lodge]

Although Dance of Death Agrivolver is funny

[faint beacon]

Perfect Strike

Might actually be not half bad with the Evis on Zealot

Especially paired with Shred and Scourge

[limpid turtle]

Its the closest thing you can have as a Sniper Rifle for the Veteran

[shadow urchin]

That's the Zarona

[limpid turtle]

Oh...

yeah, sorry. It now clicked.

[shadow urchin]

No worries

[limpid turtle]

It's certainly fun to use with Focus Fire

[shadow urchin]

And Executioner Stance. I've been using it to hunt down heretical Ogryns. Can crack a bulwark by shooting the arm, or if you've got the shot, the little tippy top of their skull.

I do love my cowboy times in space

[flat crypt]

Smells like heresy 🧐

[cosmic sun]

Gentlemen, we have an update

[grand perch]

bullying works guys

[midnight totem]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

[uncut pebble]

My genuine reaction:

[marble mantle]

6d I think? That’s the really fast one I think

I been finding some exceptionally bad auric players lately.

Just played with one that didn’t push bursters, wasn’t careful nor cooperative. Two of the players were rescuable, and instead of being patient and fighting off the horde of ragers crushers and mutants in front of us, he ran past way up ahead to go revive them, and died when I was stuck fighting the horde.

Very annoying

Vet vent over

[clear lantern]

people rushing to rescue someone, breaking coherency, and triggering monsters/patrols/hordes is wild in damnation+

I also had to remind someone that if someone breaks coherency to rush to rescue someone, then 1 body turns into 2 bodies and now there's less of us to do the rescue

[faint beacon]

Rushing to save is a Good Samaritan type thing but it really does devolve to that

[marble mantle]

Yeah I’m with ppl about raising the requirement to join auric but like I don’t really know how you’d do that

[marble mantle]

Right but it’s never really a good choice

[faint beacon]

I’ve been forcing myself to say “fuck em” if it’s too much to deal with it

[marble mantle]

Like I’m talking they ran across a football field to get them

Not like 20 feet

[faint beacon]

If it’s like a stray rager that got them then yeah I will

But it’s really dependent on what killed then

If it’s Cara horde

Hate to say it but I’m not getting you up

Lmao

[marble mantle]

Oh I’m talking rescuable not revivable

[faint beacon]

Oh rescue? I’m taking my time to make sure it’s safe unless I’m on clutch

[last parcel]

i rush ahead for rescues to feed my savior complex

[fiery raft]

any recommendations for a boltgun centered build?

i have an all 80 boltgun (besides mobility)

wanna put it to good use

[wary wharf]

Usable?

[severe gale]

very

thats a perfect roll

[last parcel]

you lose a dodge but it's fine

[severe gale]

yah its mk6 youll just kill everything anyway

[wary wharf]

Thanks. The moment I eat an overhead due to lacking a dodge I'll farm for another one lol

[severe gale]

push attack into light attack n maulers and crushers will die

(if you have power cycler)

(and i think +cara? or a stack of slaught)

or brutal momentum

[last parcel]

+elites iirc

[torpid grotto]

Its pretty hard to use scoreboard numbers to create some hard cutoff of "auric level"

[marble mantle]

To be fair I don’t think it would be like scoreboard based. You can be useful to the team and still not get the highest scores.

Maybe like, you have to complete all the penances for a character or something

To ensure that you REALLY know your character

[true trellis]

master of war only

I'm in

Would be great, but it would cut the player base apart even more & the devs want to avoid that

[marble mantle]

I feel like it’s a moderately smart idea

[last parcel]

carnival tour of duty only

[torpid grotto]

Hmm. General Achievement benchmarks might be good. But forcing people to do other builds is a bad idea

[upper lichen]

does deadshot work even if you have no stamina?

[last parcel]

no

[true trellis]

100% achievements only

[marble mantle]

Yeah

[upper lichen]

rip ty

[true trellis]

You WILL kill a trillion enemies with barrels

[marble mantle]

I just wish there was like some kind of cutoff

Getting to level 30 is just your informal tutorial

You could play a good hundred or so sedition missions and get to 30

Probably more than that but still

[true trellis]

Only allowed to play auric if you didn't go down or die in your last 10 damnation missions

How bout that

[torpid grotto]

Even that is kinda unfair because bad teammates not saving you from trappers etc

[true trellis]

shoulda dodged

[marble mantle]

[true trellis]

Can't solo normal damnation, can't sit with us

[hidden vine]

any other vets having issues rolling man stopper perk on the new shotgun? i've spent over 30k plasteel fishing for the blessing to no avail

[last parcel]

tier 2 only. best bet is to roll 300 base ratings on a lvl 19 psyker

or brunt

[hidden vine]

[torpid grotto]

Having to beat X number of damnation maelstroms is my best idea

[marble mantle]

See I can rock with this

[hidden vine]

guess i'll give this a go, why psyker specifically

[marble mantle]

Seems not too bad

[last parcel]

psyker gets double barrel 19. vet at 22

[marble mantle]

But still differentiates those that can tolerate it and those that can’t

[hidden vine]

word, ty

[marble mantle]

I’m pretty jazzed, I’m getting close to having all of vet range weapons with great rolls, obv that will only be enhanced by the update

Eventually I’ll do the melee weapons but I rarely use anything other than Knife and Saul anyway

Besides I’ve already got a Rashad, 4taxe, and 4chaxe

If we get longlas, my opinion is that it should have a pretty damn low ammo count, bad recoil, but like super high damage and either infinite or high cleave. Would love to see that with exe stance and smokes. Serious marksman vibes

Oh also I found out that infil is like incredible for seeing clearly in ventilation purge but horrible for seeing during lights out

[faint violet]

Who knows, GW change things/mind constantly from what I know.

[thorn lark]

Exactly what I did. Got it on first try. And flechette soon after.

[pastel yew]

could be interesting to give it some mad finesse bonus

maybe slightly lower base damage but some insane finesse bonus

to make it so you need to hit headshots or land crits through like.. surgical..

ideally though it should be able to deal very high single shot damage

[gilded rock]

It's a shame that the marksman keystone doesn't incentivize slow firing weapons in the slightest, hopefully that is changed at some point

[pastel yew]

ehhhhhhhhh

I mean I thought the same but