veteran-class

[celest cove]

Damn, that seems solid

[bitter turtle]

you hit bruiser bps regardless

[marble mantle]

Thanks : )

[bitter turtle]

unarmored might help you on oneshotting some unarmored elites is all

idk if it does

its not really recommended

elite/cara/maniac are the best choices

[celest cove]

Is one power sword better than others?

[austere pine]

i swear to the master

[bitter turtle]

shred + devastating strike

[wise fossil]

For my psyker but I figured I'd ask here. Probably switch unarmored to flak or unyielding?

[bitter turtle]

jk

flak or maniac imo

laspistol needs a bit of oomph vs maniacs

[austere pine]

mk3 is simpler, mk6 has built in block efficiency and more complex moveset with an insanely good bash attack

[bitter turtle]

most flak is already elite so flak is already mostly covered i guess?

[austere pine]

like i guess my chainsword here gets more crits and gets cleave on crits but like

rampage and ss

[marble mantle]

Does it particularly matter which keystone I use if I’m using shout? Or not really

[bitter turtle]

yes

keystone doesnt depend on your ability

[austere pine]

don't do MF

[bitter turtle]

it depends on your weapons

[steady cedar]

When activated, yeah. Since getting staggered turns off your power field I figured it might be helpful for clearing out bruisers with unpowered swings. Haven't tested it though.

[marble mantle]

Gotcha

[bitter turtle]

you arent killing shit with unpowered swings

its probably

the weakest melee weapon powered off

useful for a stagger if you're desperate and cant push

that's about it

[austere pine]

personally i wouldn't do mf because enemies you want to use mf for are usually out of range of your voc stagger

[marble mantle]

Was mostly planning on FT since it provides some good support utility

[bitter turtle]

to summarize

in a fairly simple way

[austere pine]

do i even give a fuck about shredder on chainsword?

[bitter turtle]

MF = good for guns that headshot a lot and have high finesse values (ciag, for example)

FT = works for everything, ceiling is lower than the other two for guns that really synergize with the other two though

Wep Specialist = good for melee heavy builds and guns that have long crit strings or powerful single shots

[bitter turtle]

kinda?

are you going bloodletter

[austere pine]

no

[bitter turtle]

if not, no, the rev is shit anyway

[austere pine]

it's the only way i have to deal with carapace

[bitter turtle]

idk the exact breakpoint

uhh

[marble mantle]

Oh okay, thanks!

[bitter turtle]

id pick another weapon

[austere pine]

and good against mutants with FT

[bitter turtle]

im ngl

no bloodletter chs is like

[austere pine]

for this build anyway

[bitter turtle]

3 revs to kill a crusher

that doesnt sound bad on paper but the animation lock is

ages

[austere pine]

this cannot sustain power sword

[bitter turtle]

even bletter with 2 rev kill feels horrible

what's your gun

[austere pine]

maybe chain axe but i don't want to sacrifice horde clear

Ia lasgun

[feral bay]

For cadia!

[wise fossil]

actually I might switch to Infernus since empathetic evasion exists

[bitter turtle]

maybe consider folding shovel? the horde clear is slowish but it can stagger a horde at least

[marble mantle]

Is it worth running charismatic?

[bitter turtle]

and actually kills crushers in 1 or 2 hits depending on how much melee dmg you have

[bitter turtle]

its ok but not really high priority

fwiw i dont have it on any build

[austere pine]

got this shovel

[bitter turtle]

but its not like its a terrible effect

[marble mantle]

Yeah, should probably just be more proactive to be with teammates

[bitter turtle]

oof

im guessing you dont have a rashad

[austere pine]

not a good one anyway

[bitter turtle]

dont wanna play mk6 knife?

[austere pine]

not for vet

[bitter turtle]

what about shock maul

[austere pine]

haven't used it yet

[bitter turtle]

give it a try

[austere pine]

gow well does it do against cara

[wise fossil]

second time today I've spawned into a failure screen 💀

[bitter turtle]

it goes fairly well into anything except unyielding

[austere pine]

what's so bad about the shovel btw?

[bitter turtle]

the perks

unyielding is basically useless

the shovel's boss dmg is

horrible

like let me put it this way

you can build the shovel to 1tap a crusher

the same build

doesnt even come close

[austere pine]

it's unarmored

[bitter turtle]

to 1 tapping a bulwark

[austere pine]

not unyieldiing

[bitter turtle]

oh

im fucking blind

i guess its ok ish then

[austere pine]

i need money for maul anyway

[bitter turtle]

but yea shock maul can shock crusher and beat them to death

since crushers do get staggered by the shock

i just dont really suggest chs for crushers

chs positives are really good horde clear

against crusher it is probably the 2nd worst weapon imo

in vet arsenal

only worse one is dclaw

in terms of kill speed, esp with bloodletter, its technically ok

but the animation lock will just force you to dodge out

half the time

or die

nor does it stagger them reliably

[sullen scarab]

Oh yeah what perks do you put on the bolter pistol?

I've got one with +elites on it, so one spare slot open

Flak or Maniac?

[bitter turtle]

maniac

or you cant oneshot flamers

[sullen scarab]

ok!

[wide pike]

i cant even one shot those shirtless knuckle heads with the flak armour heads with the bolt pistol

[austere mica]

I can oneshot crushers with it

The duality of Vets

[wide pike]

maybe i just need to hit heads

or

[bitter turtle]

shock maul vs crusher btw, both of them
no melee specific talents, its full left and middle tree

[wide pike]

roll better weapomns

[bitter turtle]

its a finesse weapon

yes you need to hit heads

[wide pike]

oh, well now i feel like a dumb dumb

[austere pine]

do i go for low cc and 51+ mobility rolls?

[bitter turtle]

i dont actually know

sorry

havent built one

tha twas just flaniac with skullcrusher + high voltage\

so no crusher perks either

you could probably slap elite or carapace but idk

gotta ask someone who actually made one

[austere pine]

🙏

building a crit maul

[bitter turtle]

but yea it seems like a great weapon for low melee investment builds

only problem is the boss/unyielding damage is kinda low

but yeah, real safe vs crusher

not the fastest but they are staggered for the whole time in that vid, cant move

and even vs bulwark it might still be fine anyway, u can shock their shield off

so in practice its pretty good vs them

only bosses might be annoying

vs bulwark

[sturdy zephyr]

Electricute blessing and another blessing?

[bitter turtle]

#veteran-class message

was flaniac with skullcrusher + high voltage

idk if thats optimal

just what i thought looked good

[sturdy zephyr]

Ahh i missed it

Its look good but if swarmed need extra careful

[midnight mortar]

Ah damn, I take it the shock is single target only?

No arcing to nearby enemies?

[snow panther]

i dont believe so

[celest rock]

Just got devastating strike 4 on my mk13 chainsword that already has shred 4

Ngl, that feels like WAY more than 80% cleave

I was previously running Wrath 4 in that slot. For some reason DS feels WAY better

[bitter turtle]

no but you can still kill horde with the maul

just spam sweeps

[tall torrent]

Check if it cleaves through scab ragers with light atks

Cuz it shouldn’t be able to with just +80% cleave (45x1.8 = 8.1)

[celest rock]

It does. At least when I was playing with it earlier

[tall torrent]

Can u check in meat grinder if possible

[celest rock]

Stand by

So, does it cleave through?
Shotgunners: yes
Maniacs: yes
Flak maniacs: no

Scab gunners: yes

Maulers: no

@tall torrent

[tall torrent]

Ok then yea it’s working correctly

Scab rager is 10 mass

Devastating strike +80% cleave for 5s on crit only makes 13g’s light cleave go to 8.1

[celest rock]

Still somehow feels much stronger than wrath

[tall torrent]

Better uptime in a way?

Because it lasts 5s and as long as u keep critting it keeps going

Wrath drops all stacks on a miss

[celest rock]

Huh. Didn't realize this

[cobalt rover]

need some advice on this what could be changed here to make it more efficient \

[unique orchid]

Mercy Killer instead of executor

since then youll decimate enemies on weakspot

[cobalt rover]

then for perks?

[unique orchid]

one of the damage perks idrc, probably keep melee crit if youre building into it

[hollow ibex]

would rather replace lacerate tbh

and then take uncanny in place of lacerate

lacerate is pretty bad

both perks would need to be replaced as well, though i'd keep the knife around

for when the crafting rework comes out

you can unbrick the knife then

[bitter turtle]

no

[unique orchid]

i wouldnt call it bricked, it aint super meta but itll work

[bitter turtle]

executor is fine and if he changes it that is literally the only decent thing on it

the other 3 are all trash

[bitter turtle]

lacerate needs to go period

you need uncanny strikes

[hollow ibex]

yeah though crafting rework should at hopefully allow him to fix the knife fully

[bitter turtle]

there is no reasonable argument not to have uncanny on your knife

[cobalt rover]

my only salvation tbh

[bitter turtle]

as for perks

both are trash

[cobalt rover]

I'll keep it for now

[bitter turtle]

but melee crit dmg is probably

less trash

so swap the other to elite or cara imo

its usable

[cobalt rover]

I got other options so it's not the end of the world

[bitter turtle]

tbh

i would make a mk6 nstead either way

executor on mk3 is a lot less consistent than mk6 and the mk6 is just the better weapon in general

https://i.gyazo.com/85905aebd91521ba584d3777e7d0fd2a.png

i got a mace now ig

[cobalt rover]

the other thing im working with

[tall torrent]

Nah

Executor is way way way better than lacerate lol

[bitter turtle]

It's a mk3 so executor is kinda eh but compared to lacerate?

Yeah keep executor lmao

[last parcel]

nah bro you just need to go for the chest stab for lacerate then flick to the head to combo mercy killer
what the fuck is a serrated blade

[bitter turtle]

Forbidden apm tech to hit body and weakspot simultaneously

[hollow ibex]

reddit was right all along

lacerate is actually meta

[unique orchid]

this was my point

[bitter turtle]

Uncanny strikes adds more dmg than mercy killer and lacerate combined

Nevermind the part where you have to miss on purpose for lacerate

[unique orchid]

i was genuinely unaware of this

[bitter turtle]

Mercy killer is not +60 percent dmg

It's weakpoint dmg

In practice that is maybe like a 30 percent boost

[unique orchid]

i'm aware, i can read

[bitter turtle]

Even on an enemy with 100 adm rending strikes adds 25% minimum

And that is the absolute worst case

And doesn't need you to cringe bodyshot on purpose every enemy you attack

[unique orchid]

was just making a suggestion based on what the knife came with

heaven and earth man

[white minnow]

there is the argument that knife does have >100% adms on a few armour types on crit
so if you have a high enough crit chance, then you can prob justify not taking it

this is also known as gambling

[bitter turtle]

Yea I've seen some people advocate that but they don't run lacerate in place of uncanny either

[white minnow]

they're GAMING

[unique orchid]

let bro game he just wants to game

[old quail]

whats the vet chat opinion on perks/blessings for the indignatus shock maul

[celest rock]

How do we feel about the Mk12 ChAxe? I've been using it on my recon lasgun VOC build and it's felt OK

[bitter turtle]

Idk I just made one flaniac and hv skillcrusher

Idk if that right though

[tall torrent]

For zealot it’s sometimes worth considering, but on vet I don’t rly see a point in that

[celest rock]

Grade 4 Slaughterer/Thunderous, Flakiac

[junior needle]

all of that is pretty awful

Big scuffed

[tall torrent]

It’s a niche single target tool for unyielding/carapace dmg but is fairly lacking against hordes and mixed elite waves on its own

[old quail]

fair

on zealot you don't really need stagger blessings outside of ogryn enemies because you can take like grievous wounds for rager stagger bps

[junior needle]

30% on t4 uncanny

[old quail]

rending is capped at 100%

[white minnow]

rending is hard capped to 100%

[old quail]

(not adm, the bonus itself)

uncanny is 120% at t4 because ruthless backstab used to also be before they capped rending

[junior needle]

Huh?

When did this happen?

[old quail]

patch 14

p13 introduced the rending rework but it was uncapped

[white minnow]

that's after 100% adm, not rending cap

there is the diminished returns after exceeding 100% adm, and then there is the hard cap at 100% rending

these are two separate things

[cobalt rover]

yea that's why I was asking for help

[junior needle]

Best best is probably replacing both blessings

Because exe is pretty bad on the mk3

and lacerate is bad in general

[radiant chasm]

yea rending has two caps

[bitter turtle]

Yea as they said it caps at 100 percent bonus

So you get a quarter of that

25%

[junior needle]

That's extremely dumb

I hate fatshark

[marble mantle]

This dude did not get the memo on how to be a mutant

[weak raft]

Bro got killed during his killing move😭😭😭

[cobalt rover]

saving the knife for the crafting update because I think thats the thing that could help this

I'll be using the mk6 for now

[marble mantle]

Accidentally threw himself fr

[thorn lark]

i mained riposte pregoc on my zealot to get the penances done and tbh, i did not feel gimped at all by the lack of uncanny

yeah

you know what, i'll remove uncanny again

time to do executor + precog or riposte

[old quail]

duellist itself has a doubled bonus on crit weakspot. it's an individual 50% weakspot + 50% crit

unless you can show me numbers that line up with that i'm fairly certain you're misidentifying the duellist bonus

[thorn lark]

we could also ask @short vapor

[short vapor]

I have been summoned

[thorn lark]

yes

[short vapor]

I'm curious as to that, I'll set up mods and test it out. Based on what I've heard from people like Crab it sounds like a misunderstood idea of how finesse works but I'm not claiming anything til I see it ingame.

[severe gale]

i miss crab

[short vapor]

Duellist provides both +weakspot and +crit chance, Precog applies +finesse. This means you get Duellist's effect twice on critical weakspot hits + Precog's effect once on critical weakspot hits.

[bitter turtle]

they said they were just taking a break

[severe gale]

yah i know

[bitter turtle]

its literally going out for milk and never coming back

[severe gale]

but it’s been so long…

since last i’ve seen my son…

[old quail]

crab retired to the farm

[thorn lark]

i heard crab saying that knife code was busted from the beginning and did not apply some bonus as it should have

[severe gale]

lost to that monster….

to the man behind the slaughter

[short vapor]

Crab still provides insight sometimes. It's a bit sour for me as I've surpassed him on Helldivers 2 knowledge so I no longer have an excuse to randomly ask questions anymore

[thorn lark]

he's probably banging more brit chicks tho

[marble mantle]

Go to the aquarium

[severe gale]

i was at one not too long ago

they had crabs but

[marble mantle]

Lot of carbs there

[severe gale]

they didn’t have any isopods

and i was sad

[marble mantle]

Sorry : ( I ate them

[severe gale]

https://tenor.com/view/bug-isopod-roly-poly-gather-meeting-gif-26215663

[spring spindle]

Dumb question but did recon get a buff I don’t look at patch notes

[short vapor]

Which variant of the Knife was this used on?

Wait these are just normal numbers??

what

This looks proper and correct as Duellist + Precog is a +160% boost to critical weakspot damage, which would do 1400+

yee sounds about right. Classical Fatshark description just outright lying to players.

[old quail]

the last patch had a lot of really nice touches specifically from playtesters like the map reworks

i know telo wanted a lot of the changes we gotr

[short vapor]

I find it criminal that they've once again acknowledged the armor downgrade's existence on Fury of the Faithful and Chastise, and yet it's still not in the description. It'd be very funny if they said that it downgrades armor even though it's now +100% melee rending.

This entire patch has been fine but I'd like to reserve a 30 minute meeting with the entire group of people that created the Boltpistol as I'd like to "talk" with them.

[uncut pebble]

I agree on that one.

Karsolas feels great to use.

[thick idol]

is the penance make every shot count bugged?

[tall torrent]

this is what kuli tells me as well

[mellow adder]

The one on the left worth it for 3k or should I keep Right or maybe get left for perk?

[short wigeon]

I’d get left for perk

[tall torrent]

don't buy, urs is better, swap flak to elite

if u want gets hot 4 tho ig u can buy

[austere mica]

The Piece™️

[tall torrent]

also swap volatile to gloryhunter/blaze away

[proper delta]

did anything change about recon lasgun builds or can i throw a good roll from the pinned comments onto a recon and use a normal lasgun build?

[austere mica]

It only took 2-3 pistols to get here btw

[proper delta]

which recon should i roll

[drifting oak]

new mission, on the finale we got "power cell" and it was in the literal very last box we opened

fucking grinding through patrols

[proper delta]

love the variable missions with no hacking

someone please recommend a recon lasgun

wake tf up i need advice

[drifting oak]

#veteran-class message

all are viable now

[proper delta]

love u

[drifting oak]

recon 2 has best ammo economy and feels "reliable", also you can hipfire and move at full speed

[proper delta]

can i slap this bad boy on a lasgun build or do i need a special one

[drifting oak]

recon6 goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, can murder crushers with onslaught

recon7 is like an infantrylasgun but... more full auto-ier, and it cleaves through poxwalkers which lets it do serious horde dps, unironically, although at a steep ammo cost

[proper delta]

and are the blessings still headhunter then infernus or dum dum for recon 2

[drifting oak]

headhunter is mandatory, if only for shocktrooper perk synergy

infernus is a big boost to boss damage but if you have a good antiboss melee it may be overkill and you'll be better off with dumdum

[proper delta]

ty sir

last q do i need a special build or will like a basic lasgun build work

[drifting oak]

uhhhhhhhh

[proper delta]

i wanna run executioners with shooter highlight and mow all those fuckers down

[drifting oak]

executioners is super meh period because it cancels when you swap to melee

if you want to stand and mow things down you're better off with invis->threat dump talent (note: your team may hate you if you aggro dump on them when they're not ready for it) or even just a well-timed shout (shout at the very last second even as you ADS and shoot, think of using it as a "parry")

executioner's just isn't good as long as you have to weapon swap and get melee dudes off of you, which is "all the time" at any difficulty past 4 pretty much

[paper brook]

Optimal Blessings for the Shocked Maul for Vet?

[proper delta]

this is painful but i'll listen

[tall torrent]

Lightning reflexes / high voltage / Skullcrusher

[drifting oak]

i go skullcrusher + hammerblow on maul

skullcrusher is probably the best one period, it's too much damage on elites to ignore

[paper brook]

I see so Skull crusher for sure

[drifting oak]

after that, you have options

lightning reflexes is for memes

[tall torrent]

It’s not bad

[drifting oak]

unlike claw parry it doesn't let you counter crushers

[tall torrent]

LR is for stunning groups of ragers

[drifting oak]

but it's arguably better against mass trash where on claw you might get multi-tapped

yeah

it super-stuns rager squads

[tall torrent]

It’s a utility blessing with +power so it’s pretty good

[drifting oak]

very specific but when it pops off it's the only thing that could save you in your melee slot

I'm a fan of hammerblow because stacked it'll knockdown elites

when you heavy attack them

you might need heavy headshots but I dsitinctly notice ragers and maulers and crushers just getting interrupted

you do need to consciously stack and keep it stacked though

[rigid schooner]

how does opening salvo work with the double barrel? is the 1st shot always given the 10% crit chance?

[somber axle]

I plan on running Exe Stance/Smokes with shooter highlight just because the new map is so consistently in quickplay rotation and the section after the snow lift elevator thing is so wide open with very little cover for the player side, lots of cover for the enemy side and usually is filled with LOTS of ranged enemies both elite and non-elite. But if you're running Exe Stance there don't do Smokes and Weapon Specialist. The worm is a very bad talent tree with an awful talent tax to zig zag across and you will be starved for points. Stay left tree or middle tree if you go Exe Stance/Smokes. If you're going Exe Stance with Shredders or Krak the talent tax is much easier to eat

Tbh even Infiltrate can be talent tax heavy if you go Shredders

[rigid schooner]

the shotguns is pretty fun for vet, since you can get so many reload boosts. and it has decent range for what it is.

how have people been using it?

[drifting oak]

shotgun + weapon specialist is a TRIP

if you have good binds for weapon swapping

one melee kill = 1 shell into your shotgun

[rigid schooner]

😂

[drifting oak]

it's fairly absurd

[rigid schooner]

honestly it reloads so well already but i'll have to remember that

[drifting oak]

you WILL be throttled by your ammo supply/economy in total

[somber axle]

But Infiltrate is nice if you go Smokes or Krak (and tbh with the changes to shooters both elite and non-elite being more accurate for elites and non-elites shooting more often, having Infiltrate AND Smoke grenades doesn't really overkill anymore for dealing with ranged imo)

[rigid schooner]

my ammo economy is okay enough for how i'm using it as i level, but i'm only at haz 4

[drifting oak]

you go manstopper because the odd crit cleave into poxwalker hordes wll literally delete half of it, kickback style

[drifting oak]

once you embrace the quickswap you will have to restrain yourself from shooting "just because"

it is... very tempting

just to shotgun one (1) poxwalker

[rigid schooner]

unfortunately i don't have any blessings grinded(?) out

oh i already have that bad habit lol

[proper delta]

i wanna go exe + shooters for now, grenades can be anything. what nodes do i absolutely have to hit for the recon 2

[drifting oak]

suppression immunity pretty much is the only "MUST" have, as "Veteran with an ADS ranged weapon" core

[proper delta]

also do i throw smokes at the gunners or between us or on myself

[drifting oak]

that and regenning grenades

and confirmed kill in mid tree

those 3 are pretty much the veteran core, if you avoid those perks you're effectively trolling

like you CAN play without them... but why

[proper delta]

im running this bad boy with a shock maul

[rigid schooner]

how's flechette on the double barrel? i just realized that i randomly bought one with it while leveling, and i think those rank 2 locked blessings are a pain to get

[proper delta]

need plasteel

[rigid schooner]

oh yeah that's right, recon lasguns got buffed didn't they?

[drifting oak]

no flak+maniac is a big oof since those are the targets you really need help on

I wouldn't have upgraded past blue if i was short on plasteel

errr, past green

[proper delta]

hopefully i can get infernus or dumdum on the last roll 🤡

[drifting oak]

I would've rolled one line, seen "not flak, not maniac" and just dumped it

[proper delta]

what're you made of plasteel or something

[drifting oak]

ducats, more like

[proper delta]

dockets*

[drifting oak]

i just have lower standards for greys

[proper delta]

i blew all my event money on high ammo + damage roll lol

[drifting oak]

330-340 is perfectly fine, the recon lasgun has like 4 dumpstats

[tall torrent]

It’s only must-have on some guns

[drifting oak]

what ADS ranged weapon would you NOT take suppression immunity on lol

even CIAG still wants it just for the option to pick off snipers

[tall torrent]

Laspistol, Helbore, infantry autoguns, Vraks 3 headhunter

[proper delta]

hipfiring the boltpistol with weapons specialist 😤

[tall torrent]

Not really needed

[drifting oak]

nah dawg ignore it on hellbore? absolutely insane

[tall torrent]

Have u checked what suppression look like for these guns

[tall torrent]

Lemme find the video for u

[drifting oak]

it's enough to fuck you up when you're pixel hunting that damned sniper

unless it got changed sometime in the past few months and I never realized

[somber axle]

Close Quarters Drill/Confirmed Kill is a very good start at top of tree. Could also go Vanguard/Out for Blood but tbh I think Confirmed Kill is higher value for toughness regen when fighting at range so long as you put down a couple elites/specials here and there to keep the toughness regen going and it can stack infinitely so you can get crazy levels of toughness regen. You absolutely want at least ONE of the grenade regen perks (Demo Stockpile 1 min regen above Voice of Command or Demo Team 5% nade regen on special/elite kill). Iron Will is also a must have. I also heavily recommend Determined for suppression immunity. Executioner's Stance gives you suppression immunity during the duration including when refreshing from Relentless (5 sec refresh on highlight target kill) but downtime on Exe Stance is inevitable and you will be thankful for the suppression immunity outside of Exe Stance when it is on CD. Also make sure to grab Shock Trooper for free shots on crit because it pairs very nicely with Headhunter blessing and helps extend your ammo economy further and delay reloads

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046912126746374274/1257073431254667345/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.06.30_-_16.40.13.08.mp4?ex=6683145d&is=6681c2dd&hm=4b2b9b266004cf5ebfbdaebd677531fa727180a125788027946326b268e2d00a&

[drifting oak]

yeah that's plenty

[tall torrent]

It really is not a big deal lol

It doesn’t even sway that fast

[drifting oak]

it's enough to piss me off

[rigid schooner]

how close of a distance is a "close kill"? wouldn't speedload be an objectively better blessing for shotgun than Both barrels?

[tall torrent]

Spending a point on it for these guns just isn’t worth it

[tall torrent]

8m

And no because Speedload is harder to maintain

Both barrels gives u 70% reload instantly

Speedload only lasts 3s so u have to chain a bunch of kills together or u lose all stacks

The base reload is 2.64s

You have a very short time window vs enemies that actually need u to kill in 1 shot for chaining speedload stacks together

[drifting oak]

honestly the reload perks are arguably a waste anyway

since why are you animating

get yourself a weapon specailist reload

[tall torrent]

Both barrels is good

[proper delta]

got confirmed kill shredders and grenade regen where to

[rigid schooner]

so what's preferred blessings for super shotgun then, scattershot-manstopper/flechette? deathspitter

[drifting oak]

yeah, for when you hit those unapproachable rager packs

[tall torrent]

Manstopper + both barrels

Is the best one by far

[rigid schooner]

an on-crit blessing with no crit boosting?

[drifting oak]

manstopper is goated
both barrels for rager packs
there's something to be said for terrifying barrage, honestly, for the quickswap playstyle

or you can just do damage

[tall torrent]

Weapon specialist

[barren hamlet]

the update made half my penances stop progressing great

[tall torrent]

Terrifying barrage is not worth it

[drifting oak]

yeah, you have crit from weapon specialist AND the upside is so absolutely ridiculous

[tall torrent]

The gun itself already does very high suppression

[drifting oak]

you shoot one rager and by the power of the emperor, because your crit is smoothbore, it nails the neighbor's dog

[tall torrent]

If u can’t roll both of these
Manstopper has highest priority, and speedload is like, fine if u can’t get both barrels

But ideally it’s these two

Perks u want flak/maniac/infested

Any combination between these 3

[rigid schooner]

i'll have to farm manstopper then

it feels nice, idk if it's that meta

[tall torrent]

Pray for melk’s garage sale

[rigid schooner]

i'm annoyed at how jumpy and tiny the sights are tho

gotta fix mods for weapon customization just to get a decent sight on it again

whats the deal for them?

[proper delta]

what do i grab with my last 7 points for recon lasgun

[tall torrent]

I can’t quite tell this one tbh

[drifting oak]

take the weakpoint damage in left tree always

[somber axle]

@proper delta

[drifting oak]

it applies to your melee too

[tall torrent]

Did u write a forum report on it yet

[proper delta]

tysm man

[somber axle]

Also other Vets can give advice on what talents to swap

Numbers Cat and Azrael are here so if they see something off about the talent trees they may recommend what talents to drop and swap

You said any grenade but with Exe shooter highlight so I made three for each grenade

[drifting oak]

are you seriously going to take a generic 0.25 stamina regen delay reduction over 30% weakspot on your melee that makes tons of weapons hit breakpoints on dreg bruisers AND scab bruisers

helps you headshot specials and elites

[proper delta]

ya imma run shredder until i get longbomb and then try smokes tysm

[odd wind]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1dskltc/doom_music_intensifies_nsfw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

RIP AND TEAR

[somber axle]

Yes. Another Vet here did the math and it comes out to only 100-200 more DPS in a best case scenario for their Recon. The DPS increase is marginal enough that I didn't think it to be mandatory. But Numbers Cat usually recommends at least one of the Stam regen delay nodes iirc so I grabbed that on the Exe Stance/Shredder tree because it had points to spare

[drifting oak]

It's not about your recon

it's about your melee

[somber axle]

I think it was Soldier 69? Or maybe not him. The other Vet with the Japanese(?) writing for a name

[drifting oak]

or am i high and they made it ranged only

[somber axle]

It's melee too yes

I guess that's dependent on what melee you have?

[drifting oak]

I can't think of a melee where I wouldn't want the extra crusher/mauler heads damage

or even just rager heads damage

[somber axle]

Rashad Mk II Combat Axe needs to hit the Bruiser 1 tap breakpoint so it can clear 4 heads at once with Bromentum

[drifting oak]

bulwark heads... not so much given their nature

[somber axle]

Knife wants Desperado (and I could do a version with Xesperado instead)

[drifting oak]

but like crusher heads on basically any build

[somber axle]

Found it!

#veteran-class message

Yeah it was Soldier 69

Which variant?

Or is that for all 3?

[drifting oak]

no suppression immunity

you people are psychopaths

[somber axle]

Also yeah no Exe Stance or Determined. Are you ok with the gun accuracy when you are suppressed?

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knowing-knife-threat-come-at-me-bro-gif-5858209

[gilded rock]

Exhilarating takedown feels so good with recon

[somber axle]

That's fair but rushing firing lines feels like something not everyone can commit to and come out alive LOL

[gilded rock]

Shoot into trash mobs and full toughness back instantly

[somber axle]

Killing bosses in 5-10 sec on your Recon? Or did you mean melee?

[drifting oak]

remind me what trust level you need minimum to brunt's a sawed-off

intentionally low so you have a higher chance of rolling manstopper

[odd wind]

22

[drifting oak]

gross

that's high enough to be annoying

[livid peak]

Are the recon lasguns good now?

[odd wind]

if u do it alone it takes a couple hours since u have to queue based on difficulty level limit

[somber axle]

I want to try the build when I get home to see the boss damage

I did notice my Recon Mk II output surprisingly high DPS on a Daemonhost another player aggro'd and we managed to kill it before he was even down on his knees

[odd wind]

and queueing heresy with pubs gives me a headache

[somber axle]

But I thought it was team damage not my Recon hitting so hard

[last parcel]

i can't imagine why

[odd wind]

yep

its probably the most toxic difficulty too

[proper delta]

can i get make every shot count with the hacker shotgun ez?

[tall torrent]

A lot of weapons are fine without it

[somber axle]

I need more practice with the Shock Maul tbh. I think I just need to learn the combos better to get the side to side sweeps down to muscle memory. I got a fantastic role with HV/SC and Flak/Maniac but it felt so weak for horde clear and that feels more like a skill issue in my part since others have said it performs so well for wiping hordes

It felt so slow with horde clear when I ran a few matches with it

[old quail]

i get annoyed swapping from indignatus to agni because the opening combo is inverted

shit fucks with my brain

[somber axle]

I rolled with one of each and yeah the combos being inverted are so silly

[old quail]

i think its one of the only melee weapons where there's at least a somewhat reasonable argument for a stagger blessing which is neat

[drifting oak]

"a little sway" might as well be screen to screen sway

I hate it

[somber axle]

Ooo. What perks do you run on yours?

Do you need elite or cara to hit the 3HKO?

So you don't need either for 3HKO. That's really good to know

I might need to reroll new Shock Mauls to try that out

[old quail]

high voltage also isn't a huge damage boost so losing out on specific breakpoints for better rager handling is a worthwhile trade in my book

funny thing also

lightning reflexes will electrocute a boss

but the special doesnt iirc

(it won't stun it but it applies the electrocute effect for high voltage)

[tall torrent]

Skullcrusher no

[old quail]

doesn't apply skullcrusher iirc

[tall torrent]

Cuz Skullcrusher is stagger only

[rigid schooner]

brainfart, how do the new shock mauls differ from each other again? any reason to build them different or similar?

[somber axle]

Weird question: if you have a Shock Maul with Skullcrusher in your hands when you Voice of Command, does the stagger apply Skullcrusher to the boss? I don't run Voice of Command so I am unfamiliar with the interactions other than shoving bosses over cliffs to insta-kill them

[old quail]

i prefer being able to handle ragers in melee easily since crushers generally feel like a non-issue unless i'm stuck in the world's worst position

[old quail]

i don't think the shout does since iirc it stows your weapon but if you hit the boss while its staggered skullcrusher will apply

[somber axle]

Good to know

[old quail]

i kind of wish they kept onslaught applying per bodypart hit just so u could use it w/ shotguns

[proper delta]

does alt+f4 cheesing still work for make every shot count

[old quail]

i had not acquired manstopper until like 2 months after they fixed it sadly

hand cannon bug w/ bugged rampage was funny

the only one i don't particularly like is how they disproportionately nerfed assail w/ no more benefiting from blessings

and then left in shit like manstopper tknives

i don't like assail's current implementation because it's still too easy to burn through 10 shards or go ep and kill anything that is weaker than a mauler for free

but psyker has a bunch of braindead stupid talents atm

just gotta wait for the datamined talents to get added

[radiant chasm]

i'd say assail is fine until they nerf trauma, void and smite

those are the big 3

maybe touch DS4 a little bit

[rigid pilot]

Purgatus never touched since launch, the perfect staff

[old quail]

assail just doesn't really have anything that incentivizes the coolest way to play which is sad

i wish whoever made weapon specialist was in charge of all keystones and theyre just about unique gamepaly loops instead of 8 million different flat stat buffs

[rigid pilot]

It does now

Puncture + assail = bleed shards

[old quail]

does that actually work

[rigid pilot]

Yes

[old quail]

i know it does for tknives

[rigid pilot]

I'm surprised no one has started to spread it yet

It's so OP

[old quail]

i wish puncture worked w/ lethal proximity so you could fire 8 miniature frag nades

[rigid pilot]

Yuh

I mean you can hit 3 targets per assail

You throw like 5 then swap, 15 bleeds

15 * 4 bleeds

Rewarded for using boltpistol on psyker

Now imagine if lethal proximity worked with assail too

[livid peak]

Is infernus recon gun viable now?

[rigid schooner]

actually, isn't headhunter decent on recon guns because of how easily you can keep it planted on heads?

[rigid pilot]

Headhunter dumdum

Or headhunter infernus

Is your pick

[livid peak]

so did they fix them numbers on the recon gun? It looks better than before

[radiant chasm]

mk Vid yes imo, but the others prefer dum dum

[radiant chasm]

yes they were buffed in the patch notes you can go read em

[tall torrent]

All of them stack Infernus pretty fast now

4/crit, max 12
So 1 crit string is 8 stacks

[radiant chasm]

their advantage is just, ammo efficiency esp with shocktrooper

you can full auto longer than any Autogun

[livid peak]

spray and pray do be fun

beamy dakka

[somber axle]

Infernus was buffed for Recons since they standardized 3 stack per crit at Infernus III, so Infernus IV is 4 stacks per crit and all Recons have a crit string of 2 so anytime you crit it is instant 8 stacks of Infernus and easy to maintain max 12 stack Infernus on target with Headhunter. Dum Dum is still better for the Recon Mk II and Mk VIIa at all ranges other than 30m+. Dum Dum is slightly better than Infernus on the Recon Mk VId at most ranges but I think has comparable DPS 20m to 30m and becomes a DPS increase on 30m+. Dum Dum is close range damage so it has no affect on targets hit beyond 30m and the buff effect becomes negligible when a target is close to 30m

It is viable and if you have Headhunter/Infernus and need to change both perks then you can keep Infernus because it isn't bad to have

Dum Dum is just generally more value for the engagements you will usually end up fighting

Since the Recon Mk VId has the lowest damage per shot Dum Dum has less of a effect there but for 0m to 20m Dum Dum should be more DPS

[hybrid elk]

is Both Barrels for the assault shotty bugged? It makes the reload anim freak out for me and i cant tell if its helping lol

[somber axle]

Also yeah Headhunter is basically mandatory Infernus or no because it pairs very well with Shock Trooper

No Headhunter means no reliable way of forcing crits (outside of Deadshot which most are leery of using on any Recon) and no reliable way of proccing Shock Trooper

Technically Dum Dum + Infernus is the best potential DPS but that's only with lots of crit strings and tbh without Deadshot or Headhunter you might as well forget crit strings exist LOL

Infernus is only on crit and your base crit chance + 5% crit node from the crit tree and maybe 5% crit perk on weapon is not nearly enough to make that reliable in any way

[wild vortex]

Any consensus on best blessings for the doom shotty?

It's so annoying that it doesn't share blessings with other shotguns

Imagine having friends that play Darktide

[somber axle]

I did once but they left during the dry periods and have never come back

[last parcel]

forever alone

[somber axle]

Now one of them is spending all his money on tabletop and the other isn't even looking at 40k games until Space Marine 2 comes out (we're done with Rogue Trader)

[quartz patio]

oops

wrong channel

sowwy!

[somber axle]

My other friends who played Darktide are all in on Elden Ring or FF14

😩

[quartz patio]

show them that dog

[faint beacon]

me with no friends minus path who play Darktide lmao, I recently just got my friend to play again and he was not enjoying the new map from how difficult it was

[wild vortex]

Gee I wonder why, surely we all love getting shot by 50 shooters in open areas with no cover and/or tons of barrels to knock us off ledges

[tall torrent]

Unrelated but do u have AMD or Nvidia GPU

[last parcel]

am deez nuts

[wild vortex]

Boom, gottem

[tall torrent]

It’s not just that, the randomized end event is harder than most other events, and the middle section has a lot of gunner & shooter spam

Mid event can be pretty insane in HiSTG

[faint beacon]

For my GPU?

AMD For CPU and Nvidia for GPU

[wild vortex]

I just took the L and stopped running Auric for now, till I get used to the new difficulty of the game

Better that than just screw up

[tall torrent]

Did u download the newest Nvidia graphics drivers

[faint beacon]

yes

Literally right now

why?

[tall torrent]

I’ve had issues since 558 where my GPU goes inactive if I leave my pc idle for a while

Have u had anything like that

[faint beacon]

Like...

I guess elaborate?

like it'll completely fuck with your graphics in game or something?

[tall torrent]

No like
If I let my PC idle & sleep

Then I go back to it, turn it on

In GeForce experience

The GPU utilization %, temperature, wattage are stuck in a constant number and not changing

And it just stays like that until I restart my pc

[faint beacon]

Huh... never had that happen to me

I have no damn clue

I'd say look into videos or something like that

[distant peak]

best perks/blessings for boltgun?

[coral willow]

tried this build

it does help the ammo economy a bit but it feels similar either way

and requires some vet in the team that runs survivalist

[zenith helm]

boyz fastest way to melt the karnak twins on damnation?

[velvet estuary]

did the recon lasguns get any buffs lately

[last parcel]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-1/96131

[vale ledge]

Yknow what would be an unironically sick weapon?

A Power fist

Whole thing could be like you have to reel it back, charging it up before delivering one brutal slam into whatever unfortunate enough was infront of you

[velvet estuary]

oh nice big buffs

what mark do you peeps jam with the recon

[zenith helm]

Anyone know a weapon to melt the twins?

[vale ledge]

Depends. One takes more damage from range while the other takes more damage from melee.

[zenith helm]

Oh

[vale ledge]

One that takes more damage from range takes less damage from melee

And vice versa

[zenith helm]

Which melee and ranged weapon for both?

To cover both bases

[vale ledge]

Oh I dunno

[cedar abyss]

Randomly got a 378 shotgun and decided to try my luck

Full bore looks pretty good

[flat crypt]

the spread is so big that you'll have to be veeery close to enemies to trigger FB

[tough tiger]

is both barrels and scattershot a good setup on the double barrel?

[coral willow]

is runngun good on DB

[somber axle]

Wanna join the clown for an Auric Damnation run on the new map?

I've had a lot of fun there but wow quickplay creatures make it tricky. Sometimes people fall over within the first few minutes of it and then rage quit and let someone new fall into their place a little bit later. The funniest moment was when a Zealot rage quit after he went down, Psyker went down and was dead, we still had a bot from when the other player left and it had been dead for a minute. An Ogryn fell into our match after the Zealot left, took one look at the area and then left the match LMFAO

[flat crypt]

Dunno about good but it is definitely fun 😄

[somber axle]

I know what you mean. I had a rough one before when I was trying to cover the rear because the team was pushing up and we had TONS of specials spawning behind us. So many flamers, trappers, muties and poxbursters. I didn't see how far up the rest of the team had pushed (I was holding the middle and slowly backpedaling up the ramp, the rest of the team was already at the door) and while firing down a mutie got hit with a trapper net. I swear they have insane long range on it now. It felt like they hit the trap from 10m-15m away. Double poxburster finished me before anyone could even show up (and is why I'm running 2 HP, 1 Stam curio now on my Mk II Recon build with over 200HP and corruption resistance perks on the HP curios). They opened the door to a Chaos Spawn after I died and the group immediately wiped LMFAO

[bitter turtle]

dont think its very optimal but you can probably run it anyway

[tough tiger]

i still dont understand why they let trapper nets pass through every enemy

[faint beacon]

yeah im down, you want anything in particular to back you up?

Gotta boot up DT real quick was playing Dead Island 2

[somber axle]

It's even better when you can't see the trapper at all and have to choose a dodge direction entirely based on luck, and get hit with the net anyway because your dodge was perfectly parallel to the shot LOL

[bitter turtle]

new map is hella fun

[tough tiger]

pain

[faint beacon]

IMO Double edged sword, extremely fun with a good team

[bitter turtle]

nah

[faint beacon]

extremely painful when you dont

[bitter turtle]

i like bad teams

[tough tiger]

i once dodged into a net intended for someone else

[somber axle]

I will be home in another 40-50 min-ish once work wraps up in 20 min. I want to try my Exe Stance/Smoke set up on my Mk II Recon. Bring what you like 😄

[bitter turtle]

that is avoidable, you know what is the worst one?

when theres two trappers, one behind each other

and u dont realize

so you dodge the first

[faint beacon]

I'll play a match or so of Psyker till then

[bitter turtle]

and the second one shoots from complete no vision

and you didnt expect it bc you assumed the sound cue was only for the first one

doesnt happen often but it happened to me earlier yesterday

[somber axle]

I once went to pick up a Zealot and a trapper was firing at me from behind the Zealot. I got him up just in time to avoid the net meant for me and got him netted the second he was free. He couldn't even react and was yanked away LMFAO

[uncut pebble]

I can join for the auric as well, if you wish.

[faint beacon]

the 4 Tox bombers carpetting the entire map in King assripper's glory

fucking actual pain when there's more than 2

[somber axle]

Yeah sure if Gale is cool with it I'm down to build a team from Vets here

[tough tiger]

real

[uncut pebble]

Vets?

Oof...

[somber axle]

I'll DM my Fatshark code when I get home

[faint beacon]

I could care less who joins, I'll play whatever

[uncut pebble]

I was planning on doing stealth zealout...

[somber axle]

You don't need to play Vet LOL

[tough tiger]

@somber axlewhat region u in?

[somber axle]

I just call everyone here Vets since Vet chat

[faint beacon]

might... do Byeaheimer build

which is Ogryn

[uncut pebble]

That's valid.

[somber axle]

Oh right yeah! I am US West

[tough tiger]

ah ok nvm then

[faint beacon]

US east, but hey its not terrible ping difference imo\

[uncut pebble]

I can do either hammer instakill build or stealth with flamer build.

[somber axle]

Anyway brb need to rush off to work to wrap up some things before I submit my daily report, sign paperwork and leave this place

[uncut pebble]

Wait, what servers does cat even play on?

[bitter turtle]

they said it

[uncut pebble]

I play on NA East.

[bitter turtle]

US west no?

[uncut pebble]

Oh that's fine.

I'm used to being on Europe servers so the connection shouldn't be too bad.

[tough tiger]

not sure if i can play fine when my home server is asia & pacific central

aka singapore

[flat crypt]

BB is great at least in my books. Scatter might be better with flechette/man-stopper since hacker doesn't benefit much from crits so extra cleave or bleed might be a nice addition 🤔

[tough tiger]

wait is manstopper that crutch lvl2 blessing that ppl rage about?

[uncut pebble]

That's unfortunate.

[tough tiger]

actually

[flat crypt]

that's the one 😅

[tough tiger]

us west right?

i think i can play with just a tiny delay

[bitter turtle]

wdym crutch

[uncut pebble]

That's what I was told.

[bitter turtle]

its the t2 blessing though yeah

[tough tiger]

i supposed i can play with recon las cat

but i get off work in 4 hours

i love timezones

if only the world was flat

[flat crypt]

😄

[bitter turtle]

wdym its not flat?

[tough tiger]

no

[bitter turtle]

explain

[tough tiger]

the world is wrapped around the sun

[rigid pilot]

If it's flat would it not have timezones?

[tough tiger]

cant believe u guys dont know that

[rigid pilot]

We need an expert

[bitter turtle]

the world is like an rpg world

its shaped like a donut

you ever notice in games, when you go north enough they usually just wrap you back around to the south

donut worlds

[rigid pilot]

My worldview is pac-man

[tough tiger]

yes

recon las shill, how long can u play for?

[somber axle]

I can swap to NA East since you and Gale are both there. My ping should be fine. I used to play a lot of Darktide with an Aussie friend and the ping playing on whatever server that was (Oceanic?) was painful but I made do

[somber axle]

I'm working tomorrow at 3pm so I will probably be asleep before you get home tbh but maybe another time!

I'm currently 7 min to midnight and still at work for a bit longer

[tough tiger]

graveyard shift

🤯

[somber axle]

I worked 4pm to midnight today

Though sometimes I end up working midnight to 8 am!

Really depends on what's happening here but usually I'm at work during the day

Sometimes I need to work overtime so my schedules can be kinda random and wonky

[last parcel]

i started levelling another psyker and now i have diarrhea

[uncut pebble]

The pfp really just sells the mental instability of the statement you just made.

[faint beacon]

Lmao

[frank basin]

Can you handle a zealot thot doing voice over anime girl while having male zealot player who simp her and only dedicate assisting thot zealot and ignore rest two team including you. (The male zealot shooting pox bursted instead push dodge)

[uncut pebble]

I think I'd have to kill both of them with hammers.

[frank basin]

Or blow up barrel near them

The male zealot would blame two team for wipe or not helping pinned/downed thot zealot

[last parcel]

i don’t know. most of the zealots i’ve dealt with were just drunk and kept dying while micspamming

one guy was going to mow the lawn the next day

[somber axle]

The only people using voice I've seen in this game so far have been the rare LARPing Ogryn and the even rarer LARPing Zealot. And like a few guys cursing at each other over voice chat lately and making me laugh at how angry they get at each other until I die

[uncut pebble]

I also just got told I was "incompetent" when I was only in the game for half the mission and I outscored everyone in every category.

[rigid pilot]

Wtf is a zealot thot

[last parcel]

he’ll probably have to mow it again since it’s been a while

[uncut pebble]

It was a hunting grounds damnation quickplay.

[somber axle]

The LARPing Zealot commanded us to sit in the church pews at the start of a level and then proceeded to deliver a 1-2 minute sermon before leading us into the next fight with a battlecry

[frank basin]

I found from Reddit post guy telling his story a female zealot just use mic making anime girl noise and have his boy friend following her not being team play

[last parcel]

shoutout to the zealots at 2 am screaming FOR HIM… ON TERRRRRAAAAAAAAAA before charging in

[somber axle]

Most fun dude using voice I've ever had the fortune to queue into quickplay with LOL

[uncut pebble]

THERE CAN BE NO FORGIVENESS!

[frank basin]

A girl who not professional player but only make anime girl noise like Waifu for other dude simping her

[somber axle]

Unironically loved hearing that dude put 110% effort into a Zealot sermon

[uncut pebble]

Heretics are blind too much...

Really love the judge personality.

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iahB1IcnoyGPJISX5/d1337Y9uCoTk?invite=cr-MSxBencsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[somber axle]

Also I did actually crouch in front of a church pew to listen to his sermon LOL

[faint beacon]

Shit like this is why I love LARPers

[uncut pebble]

I'm going to put that psyker into an airlock.

The brain rot I got from that actually made my head hurt.

[faint beacon]

He did voices for every single one of his characters

we queued with him he was pretty fucking cool actually

[last parcel]

i love that the voice actor will read memes as the judge

[somber axle]

Usually LARPers are fun but a dude did a REALLY convincing Ogryn accent and was lots of fun through most of a match. Then at the very end he kept calling my character name to get me to come over. When I walked in front of him he told me he loved how I shoot things and said it made his pants tight. In an Ogryn accent. I had to pause for a moment because I couldn't even register what happened for a few seconds

[faint beacon]

We met him through this clip

one moment

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iagYXbYGaM0wWOeEg/d1337HP0M0WY?invite=cr-MSxsTXEsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[somber axle]

LMFAO that's amazing

[uncut pebble]

I remember queueing with someone that was larping...

[somber axle]

THAT'S SO COOL

[uncut pebble]

He couldn't commit to the bit.

Kept doing like an inside voice mock scream with his lines...

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iaie6GaGb1VTnhQ_b/d1337xszkLNt?invite=cr-MSxZcmYsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

A little snippet of his Ogryn lmao

[uncut pebble]

I just took my headset off for that mission.

[somber axle]

That's really good
The Ogryn I met had a really deep gravely voice though LOL

[faint beacon]

Fucking 3 different voices for his characters

look I was loving it

I have him friended on DT hopefully I get into a match again with him sometime

[somber axle]

I love it too LOL

If only I was less shy I might add some of the fun people I've met in quickplay

Also I will be home in like... another 15 min?

[faint beacon]

If i find someone I'll friend them and pray they notice

lmao

I can spare like

[somber axle]

Maybe a bit sooner

[faint beacon]

3-4 matches

if thats so

[last parcel]

only for them to not notice the invite and get confused when they see it 6 months later

[faint beacon]

It may or may not be like 3 AM

and I work in oh what... 9ish hours?

[somber axle]

Sure we can stop when you're finished. I can't be up too late either because of work tomorrow

Oh geez

9 hours??

Are you ok to play that many matches?

[faint beacon]

I survive on 6 hours daily

I am a trooper

[uncut pebble]

Bro is a trooper.

[faint beacon]

LMAO

JINX

[uncut pebble]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[somber axle]

I do too but I don't like making people lose sleep

[last parcel]

A WITCH

[uncut pebble]

I can't function on anything less than 9 hours of sleep.

[faint beacon]

I can see into the warp

[uncut pebble]

I'm not even 21 and my body is like that of a 45 year old.

[faint beacon]

You're good

[last parcel]

see these nuts

[faint beacon]

Its more so me, cause I'll blatantly say, yeah I need to go if its bad

[uncut pebble]

Thankfully I'm a student right now so I get by.

[faint beacon]

Im just aged from various health reasons I wish to not discuss cause no one should really care about it, but now im basically aged drastically even though im in my 20s

[uncut pebble]

Same. I had to do backbreaking work restoring 3 houses since I was 11.

Time has not been kind to my bones.

[faint beacon]

My immune system is in shambles, never broken a bone shockingly

[uncut pebble]

I've broken just about everything that isn't in my head or my pelvis.

My knuckles sound like gravel when I close my hands.

Not pleasant at all.

[somber axle]

One time while working at the M&M World here in Las Vegas (literally my second job ever, my first was at Target and that barely counts imo LOL) they mistakenly scheduled me to work to midnight at the end of one work week and then to start work at 4 am the start of the next week. I didn't know any better and just assumed it was normal so I resigned myself to the pitiful 2 hours of sleep (travel time to get home, time to get ready for work + travel time to get back to work cut my sleep time even shorter) and when a manager realised the mistake they panicked hard-core and told me to immediately alert someone if it happened again because that is absolutely NEVER supposed to happen

[uncut pebble]

Anywho, I don't want it to be like I'm trying to 1up you or anything. Just throwing that out there.

[somber axle]

I still worked that full 4 am shift to the end of my 8 hour day then too

[uncut pebble]

I'm gonna be real big dog. I wouldn't have worked that shift.

[faint beacon]

Oh no mines pretty fucking bad, its not a measuring contest at all we got our stuggles, I just dont share mine cause i dont want people still worrying about something I've healed from basically

[uncut pebble]

My current job, I will straight up call my boss and say "hey bro, you fucked me on the schedule, I'm not coming in till 11" or whatever time is suitable for me to come in.

Though that's a relationship I have with my boss, specifically.

[somber axle]

In retrospect I was very naive to assume that was normal or that I needed to do it to keep my job but I really liked that job a LOT. I got to do a lot of fun stuff like maintenance in the candy printer there (the one that takes your picture and prints your face and the faces of your friends/family) on M&Ms and also writes special messages on them

[uncut pebble]

That actually sounds really neat!

I, myself, am going to try and get a factory job for a while after I finish my schooling.

[somber axle]

Plus they would give me new flavours weeks in advance and tell me I could share it with family and friends but to absolutely NOT say anything about the new flavour until the official social media accounts do their release

[uncut pebble]

Learning gunsmithing is fun stuff.

[somber axle]

I got to take some new flavours to Canada to let my ex and their family be some of the VERY first people in the entire world outside of the company to both know and taste the new flavours

(And of course shared the new stuff with my own family too LOL)

[uncut pebble]

I bet there are stacks of NDA's with your signature on them, then.

I doubt M&M would just let you roam without one.

[somber axle]

It was only hush hush until the flavours went live

But wow I loved that job

[uncut pebble]

I can't seem to find work where I live where I both like my job and my boss.

[somber axle]

I only left because the pay was basic and I needed to get a real adult job instead of something that paid so little ($14/hr at the time)

[uncut pebble]

It's always one or the other being shit.

[somber axle]

Plus it was only my second job ever and it was temporary while I was in college

[uncut pebble]

My last job was fast food, didn't much mind the work, but my boss was a huge bitch.

[somber axle]

Just something to help pay off things and give me money for funny

[uncut pebble]

I remember once, one of my managers was helping in the back, running the breader station (this was a fried chicken joint and that station has to move FAST). Boss walks in and starts blowing a gasket because we're so behind on orders. He tries explaining that two of our four fryers are down, but she wouldn't hear it and sent him home for "arguing."

We got her fired soon after by going to her boss and issuing a formal complaint with signatures from everyone except a select few people.

[somber axle]

Also @faint beacon @uncut pebble I am home now and can game in a few minutes

[faint beacon]

noted

[somber axle]

I just need a moment to get to my computer and start up Darktide

[faint beacon]

I'll try adding you btw but iirc my tide enjoys crashing upon trying to add people on Darktide

thankfully my username on here has my code so you can just use that

[last parcel]

fatshark doesn't want you to have friends

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[last parcel]

another entry into the book of grudges

[uncut pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-slayer-vermintide-gif-24272560

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/mauzy-mice-gif-12371265837555442738

[somber axle]

Is it better for me to try to add you using your code or for me to DM you my code? Or does it not matter?

[faint beacon]

Add me basically

[faint beacon]

SIR YES SIR!

[last parcel]

o7

[somber axle]

Sounds good!

[uncut pebble]

@faint beacon I sent you a friend request as well.

[faint beacon]

Got it

[last parcel]

rate my knife

[faint beacon]

I hate it

[somber axle]

Sent you both friend requests!

Briefly had cat aggro and needed to feed my very active cat

[faint beacon]

Me who simply has a lizard

who does nothing all day except be lazy and I love him for that

[uncut pebble]

I have a dog that has the "can't stand up" disease.

Though, disease isn't really the right term for it.

She just falls over a lot.

Little derpy but nothing else is wrong with her.

[faint beacon]

Fucking hell this map on Auric

[livid fractal]

any good? i alr have Powercycler 4

[flat crypt]

What is this heresy, people sending friend requests and all O_o we should be grumpy rejects who can barely tolerate each other

[last parcel]

commissar

get the bolt pistol

[livid fractal]

i got tha bolt pistol

what build do i want on power sword btw

[odd sparrow]

unfortunate the stats are a bit meh because those perks and blessings are amazing. Change supercharge to power cycler and the melee damage(trash) to elites

[faint beacon]

@somber axle The DB build or the IAG build fo tonight

[somber axle]

Ooo I'd love to see the DB. I haven't had a chance to roll a good one yet so I haven't played with it

I've tried Boltpistol a bunch and Shock Maul a bit

Double Barrel is next on the list and maybe one day I might get around to testing Ogryn Pickaxes

[faint beacon]

Its heavily infil focused

[last parcel]

perfect for the new map

[faint beacon]

I did a quick test run to show my friend the picks seeing he's an ogryn main

and he really likes the Branx seeing its well

extremely suited for Strikedowns

Aka crusher go bye bye the weapon

[somber axle]

I just swapped off smokes so now that you've got smokes this is perfect LOL

No need for double smokes

[coral willow]

does the reduced spread from runngun not counteract anything?

[faint beacon]

so we just got fucking destroyed by 20+ ragers

actual 40k ragertide

[somber axle]

LMFAO it was hilarious

[thick kestrel]

Ragers are horrendously dangerous at the moment >_<

[coral willow]

i mean

ragers were always dangerous

[somber axle]

I went to cover the rear because I heard a poxburster coming and wanted to snipe it
as soon as the burster was down I turned back around to face the front and suddenly RAGER CITY

[thick kestrel]

yes, just more so

[somber axle]

didn't even have a chance to get shredder grenades out

[faint beacon]

Yeah I was like hmmm my knife will kill a few of em

then I see

2

4

[somber axle]

just immediately surrounded

[faint beacon]

7

fucking 13

[coral willow]

hadron screaming about numbers

[faint beacon]

Like it just started racking up and up

[coral willow]

@somber axle how good is runngun on the new shotguns?

since it can take it as a reduced spread blessing

[faint beacon]

Pretty good

[last parcel]

THE NUMBESR MASON

[thick kestrel]

I'm honestly going to be fading and taking a break for a wee bit. I know it's a skill issue on my end but things have just been feeling a bit oppressive with Ragers and gunners deleting me absurdly quickly at the moment.

[coral willow]

what about shooters

[uncut pebble]

I feel like all the enemies have been a little bit overtuned.

[faint beacon]

which Byeah we feeling today, big gun or byeaheimer for the last match

[uncut pebble]

Ragers are just a bit too fast, shooters fire a bit too quickly and deal too much damage, gunners resist stagger and suppression like hell...

[somber axle]

I haven't tried it yet tbh. I haven't seen the Double Barrel and I haven't tested Run N Gun on the old Shotguns yet either

[uncut pebble]

Hopefully obese fish does something good about this.

[coral willow]

tbh

i like the reaper change

before they were gunner but ogryn

now they have something that is going for them

which is heavy tf2

[odd sparrow]

shooters are quite oppresive in this patch

[coral willow]

shooters are absolutely ass

a single volley knocks your hp down to half

if your toughness is gone which most likely will be

and then the 2nd volley kills your ass

[rigid pilot]

There's nothing to run on the new shotty other than the reload talent

[uncut pebble]

I'm having to bob and weave while sliding and dodge sliding just to not have my toughness get absolutely shredded.

[rigid pilot]

I took terrifying barrage

[coral willow]

old shotgun doesnt get runngun p sure

[coral willow]

im taking runngun then

[uncut pebble]

I feel like I'm playing apex...

[coral willow]

for the reduced spread

[faint beacon]

Im ngl I think we died there cause im half asleep

[rigid pilot]

Doesn't work on slide which makes me sad

[faint beacon]

and didn't notice the ragertide coming lmao

[last parcel]

hi half asleep

[thick kestrel]

a wee bit aye, but on my end it's more that I'm caring a bit too much about getting my arse kicked at the moment. that's just a good sign to go play something else for a wee bit.

[somber axle]

I just checked, you're right
I keep forgetting they don't share blessings LOL

[coral willow]

ragers, even while being buffed in... a unusual manner, feels fine-ish
its def not but its wierd
like i dont get why they buffed dreg ragers when they are spawning in unequal numbers

[thick kestrel]

no point throwing myself at a wall when I'm not enjoying it

[coral willow]

annnd the fact that scab ragers usually die faster

cause maniac armor is quite gracegiven

like

[thick kestrel]

(as opposed to throwing myself at a wall when I am enjoying it, which is perfectly healthy and reasonable)

[coral willow]

its not like they are gonna change scab rager's chest armor into carapace(if it was i'd scream out loud)

[last parcel]

NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY PUNCTURE BREAKPOINTS

[livid fractal]

any good

[coral willow]

looks great

agrapina shotgun is a sniper shotgun so stability doesnt mean much when you sharpshoot with slugs

[last parcel]

very good for musket roleplay

[livid fractal]

oh is agripiina viable now

[coral willow]

outside of that you might have issues but some people take lower stability to hit more targets, so you do you

it always was

it just had a unique niche among the shotguns

which was ranged sniping

[livid fractal]

yeah i love agri on zeal

being able to just dome enemies from far away

lmfao got this one on zeal

this one any good or not enough stopping

wtf? where did my other blessing go

wait wrong chat