veteran-class

[uncut pebble]

Puncture is good.

[toxic leaf]

its 1/3, but puncture is usable

[uncut pebble]

It doesn't say there's a bleed stack cap so you can just mag dump tanky enemies.

[neat stratus]

What would be 3/3?

[sturdy zephyr]

If proximty increase bleed that will be fun

[neat stratus]

Or 4/4 ig

[uncut pebble]

I'm assuming perks are flakiak.

And blessings are surgical deadly accurate.

[toxic leaf]

flak maniac

[last parcel]

no it's elite maniac for dreg gunner and flamer oneshots

unless you run executioner's stance

[uncut pebble]

...

Why would I care about 1tapping a flamer?

Shout and stab him.

[neat stratus]

dear god this thing hits hard

[uncut pebble]

I'd care more about killing both types of gunners.

[last parcel]

it already oneshots scab gunner without perk

and elite or unarmoured gives dreg gunner oneshot

[uncut pebble]

I see.

[last parcel]

so if you don't shoot flamers you could go ahead and just stick with elite and use the other for whatever

[uncut pebble]

@neat stratus does the bleed kill dreg gunners on headshot?

I unfortunately do not have the wallet to do such testing.

[last parcel]

with unarmoured it should just kill them outright

[neat stratus]

Also the FPS is incredible

[last parcel]

though i'm assuming they're using superiority complex

[neat stratus]

I went from averaging 60 to averaging 100 in the psykanium

[neat stratus]

Ill have to do some further testing

[neat stratus]

On damnation I can quite literally pop their heads off without bleed being necessary so I hope that answers your question

[uncut pebble]

Lovely stuff.

Now I know exactly what to give my veteran.

[neat stratus]

This thing feels like the bolter if it was good and also handheld

[uncut pebble]

It's probably because of the unarmored damage, tbh, considering what backup said.

[neat stratus]

I meant both

[uncut pebble]

I was meaning for the dreg gunner 1shot.

Backup said you need either elite or unarmored to 1shot a dreg gunner.

I think I could take elite and carapace and do some nasty damage with that for a handheld head exploding machine.

[neat stratus]

I would think so

Hitting for 3-4k dps on non-crusher ogryns

[last parcel]

have you seen this
#veteran-class message

[uncut pebble]

Lord have mercy that is a lot of fucking damage.

I think I might actually run exe stance with bolt pistol now.

Though, rip shout.

[unique orchid]

so it feels like the bolter if it was... by chance, a pistol?

[neat stratus]

[unique orchid]

revolutionary take

[neat stratus]

Kinda, but I personally just call it "bolter but good"

[unique orchid]

i think the bolter is funny but better on zealot

[neat stratus]

Its like a cross between a laspistol and the insanely powerful revolver and both of their best parts

[bitter turtle]

superiority complex + longshot + elite is enough

to kill dreg gunners

dont need to unarmored

[uncut pebble]

I was referring to his bolt pistol.

It had 20% unarmored.

I was going to make mine elite and carapace damage to hit the bps needed to 1tap both gunner types and help in killing crushers and maulers.

[bitter turtle]

Yea just sharing the minimum investment to dreg gunner 1 tap

if you do bleed you can drop Longshot

[uncut pebble]

I wasn't going to take bleed for my vet's pistol.

Surgial + deadly accurate.

[late hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162275718563110933/1256079580754608310/image.png?ex=66801f84&is=667ece04&hm=57b6879465076d92418021a44ece2fd208bf77a7a09023e59ebb08adafdebcb2&

This has been fun so far

[uncut pebble]

If only lethal prox counted for puncture...

[neat stratus]

Something incredibly fun about doing the bash-shoot combo, that animation is really cool

[late hatch]

Its one of the bolt pistols I have been testing. Bleed does quite a bit. And the aoe cc is awesome into groups of elites

[willow siren]

sawed off might be the most fun i've had on vet in awhile

it's so goofy

[neat stratus]

Is it pump action too by any chance?

[rapid palm]

no its a double barrel break action

[neat stratus]

Dang, I know they usually are but it would be the funniest thing

[willow siren]

always prepared always putting one shell in is silly.

[rapid palm]

there's this one doom mod that has a pump action 8 barrel shotgun

its fun

[uncut pebble]

Does the double barrel get surgical?

[neat stratus]

How's the shock maul anyways?

[late hatch]

Great

Both of them are pretty fun

[rapid palm]

from what ive seen its solid, great for stunlocking ogryuns and ragers

[neat stratus]

Dang, I like mass crowd clear over mass stun myself

[willow siren]

i've been having a blast with the indigatus on, has a good horde combo while still hasving strong strikedown

[rapid palm]

get a chain sword, or if your hate yourself a MK IV power sword

great horde clear

[neat stratus]

I do both, prefer the chain sword because I can hear for the emperor noises

[late hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162275718563110933/1256207631341715548/image.png?ex=668096c6&is=667f4546&hm=8090f2a28666a8ca3c04a7404cc339ae2563e32e121edd1bd5051eb11f39b846&

[neat stratus]

Its basically minidignatus crusher

[late hatch]

This has been going alright

[rapid palm]

I happen to hate myself

[neat stratus]

I would be inclined to ask how the pickaxe is

Considering how we've always wanted an ogryn 2h

[austere pine]

we out here

[late hatch]

Awesome

[willow siren]

it's love or hate

[austere pine]

i played the map twice

[rapid palm]

from what a buddy has told me, really, really good against armored single target

[austere pine]

well, won the map twice

[rapid palm]

but not the best in other areas

[neat stratus]

Is it a sweeper or is it like vermintide?

[late hatch]

The picks are nice at bonking, pretty average vs horde

[willow siren]

each one has a role, but i hate how slow they are

[austere pine]

the k-something pickaxe is decent at horde

all rounder

[neat stratus]

Big and slow is something I like, as long as each swing feels impactful

[faint beacon]

Lol, lmao even

Can work with this

[last parcel]

time for born leader

[late hatch]

Yeah I tried that blessing for the toughness battery build and it worked alright

[faint beacon]

What I was planning to do seeing its my Commissar build

[frank ether]

I went for deadly accurate - surgical route instead

I think going for ADS with this weapon is kinda torturing yourself though

better off building for hipfire

or use crosshair remap at least

[late hatch]

That one is for a squad leader weap spec build

[bitter turtle]

do puncture build

:^)

its already rolled fo rit

other perk to elite, other blessing to puncture

[upbeat snow]

i think this bolt pistol is working well but my aim is garbajj

[toxic leaf]

the difference between histg and just he is so huge

in the time it takes to clear the fault room in new mission on histg (if its even done), the mission is over on he

[fleet thicket]

guys

you right side of the

vet tree?

the melee crit build?

waht weapon you recomed ?

i ahd a chainaxe but i just found out chainaxe doenst have much finnee

maybe

shock mauls are better?

[pseudo fiber]

Lets start with the standard

knife

[faint beacon]

Planning on it seeing my las pistol built for my toughness generator build does Infernus

make something similar to that

lmao

Do i shoot for Puncture IV or just change the perks

[pseudo fiber]

hrm

reload to elite and

then wait for someone better

to arrive

[faint beacon]

Was thinking Flak?... seeing the Flak Maniac covers even more but I can see why

[pseudo fiber]

No it's up here somewhere

[last parcel]

elite gives dreg gunner headshot

[pseudo fiber]

a better numbers cruncher not player I am goated and no way bias

[faint beacon]

Yeah no you got a point there

Dreg Gunners are rather common

[cyan vale]

Does puncture make the aoe bleed?

[faint beacon]

no

[pseudo fiber]

no :(

[faint beacon]

sadly it doesn't

[last parcel]

no

[faint beacon]

on direct hit it does

[pseudo fiber]

maybe in a patch actualy

[faint beacon]

we tested that day one

[pseudo fiber]

that'd be... really fucking good though

[faint beacon]

It'd be fucking insane with Lethal Proximity

[pseudo fiber]

but also if they buffed it just doing that it might mkae the bolt pistol insane

[faint beacon]

gimmick on top of a gimmick

but Im wondering if I should change maniac

or

Save for Puncture IV

Cause I changed Reload to Elite

[pseudo fiber]

go shoot a gunner

then use that to help your choice

[last parcel]

and the flamers

[coral willow]

how much does the boltpistol pen

[pseudo fiber]

doesn't it just explode

[last parcel]

like flak adm or cleave?

[coral willow]

cleave

[last parcel]

#veteran-class message

i'm just gonna trust cauliflower on that

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iae0l73w1xiohYMTv/d13375cS30aW?invite=cr-MSxQcHosMTA3NDAxNTczLA

[pseudo fiber]

that's funny

[faint beacon]

@last parcel @pseudo fiber

[last parcel]

do you have superiority complex

[faint beacon]

Sitting here wondering cause I know bleed doesn't do a shit ton

[pseudo fiber]

then use the puncture one as a flex slot nothing wrong with that

[faint beacon]

Holy shit you're right

[last parcel]

it gives rager 2 shot bodyshot but idk what else

[faint beacon]

forgot this is built for a LAS PISTOL

[pseudo fiber]

funny

[faint beacon]

so I have shocktrooper on

[pseudo fiber]

don't forget that

[faint beacon]

simple swap of the perks

or well talents

lets see the horror now

[last parcel]

i've just been using puncture as a mercy killer activator

[pseudo fiber]

I use puncture DA because I'm enjoying myself

and flak, unyielding

[unique orchid]

legit my same bistol rn

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iae3xOgGp0hccD-A0/d1337f1tp1KU?invite=cr-MSxKRFgsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

With Superiority

[pseudo fiber]

the gunner isn't dying

flamer I get also like

consider they'd be tickled by teammates doing whatever too

[faint beacon]

4 stacks of bleed would be 24 and trickle down I would assume...

their health is just on the cusp of death

seriously sitting here wondering like

hmmm

[last parcel]

i thought it'd be a range damage node issue but i see you have survivalist so nvm

[frank ether]

Idk how I feel about this

not even my main issue with the weapon

I get some funny ideas to make a bleed meme build though

with shredders and serrated blade knife

[faint beacon]

I mean I get it should honestly 1 shot something

but it two shotting is good enough for me

[frank ether]

If you're getting a headshot at this kind of distance

it really should

without needing deadly accurate

esp considering this shit has zero pen

compared to zarona

I thought the bleed would apply to all targets via splash damage but it doesn't do that

[faint beacon]

using it mainly as a toughness battery for the build im running just cause I want it in theme with the whole commissar build

[pseudo fiber]

I mean it see it getting a few tiny buffs and it'll be great

[wind mesa]

anyone know best perks blessing for bolt pistol rn? also i've seen discussion that it isn't great for weapon specialist build so i guess you go for ft instead?

[frank ether]

It needs many buffs in QoL

like speaking as if zarona doesnt even exist, lets pretend its in a vacuum

that ADS sway needs fixing

[faint beacon]

I understand it doesn't deploy quickly cause its... a fucking bolter

[cyan vale]

Deadly accurate and surgical strike with flak and carapace works well for my stealth classes

[faint beacon]

but it seriously needs to hit harder

than a dinky revolver

[pseudo fiber]

the main 4 I see discussed are puncture, deadly accurate, surgical and lethal proximity

[faint beacon]

DA + Surgical are for like

[pseudo fiber]

though lethal proximity is put down to funny and puncture is more niche but good

[faint beacon]

bolt pistol sniping builds

[pseudo fiber]

but you can easily run DA surgical with weapon specialist

[frank ether]

maybe the dinky revolver shouldn't hit harder than something firing mini rockets lmao

[faint beacon]

Seriously lmao

[pseudo fiber]

or DA puncture or DA lethal

or DA gloryhunter you seeing a theme

[faint beacon]

I will never understand why the Zarona is just

[frank ether]

It used to be absolute coal tier at release

[faint beacon]

Oh you have a gun that fires jet propelled explosive bullets? that's cute check out the .500 SW

[frank ether]

as with many other guns but zarona at release was pure garbage

[faint beacon]

deletes the elite faster than you can pull out your Bolter

[frank ether]

funny how the turns table

speaking of bolter

its pretty ok this patch

[wind mesa]

as for perks, elite dmg and flak probably?

[faint beacon]

Idk what the BP and Bolter really need to be able to fight against the Zarona tbh

[frank ether]

but I'd say the strongest bolter build took a nerf

[faint beacon]

cause I like the idea they deploy slowly (They're fucking bolters they're going to be heavy)

[frank ether]

despite the ammo buffs

they took away ranged pen on zealot charge

[faint beacon]

But im just wondering if its a simple damage buff, maybe rending?

idk

[frank ether]

I think thats probably big for bolter and flamer on zealot

[pseudo fiber]

the revolvers we have in canon are like shitty weapons. The fact they're so strong is amusing but the revolvers are shit tier in canon

[faint beacon]

I fuck with the idea of the revolver being like

drastically less damage

but a shit ton more ammo

pea shooter that does well if you can aim

[cyan vale]

With full reloads

[pseudo fiber]

I think what revolver does now is fine it just needs a few changes (but we have the itemisation stuff for that) I think quick drawing zarona is good. buuuut it's really.. too good

[faint beacon]

is hand cannon exclusive to the Zarona

[frank ether]

Bolter isn't bad with surgical

[faint beacon]

cause I would say that might be a way to tune it down?...

[frank ether]

problem is you dont get the same mileage out of going cavalcade

[last parcel]

it’s on agri revolver too

[livid monolith]

part of the problem with that aspect of balance is the constant need for reloads, which is why its damage was buffed so high in the first place

[faint beacon]

Suppose thats what they had in idea with the Agri

[frank ether]

the way I play cavalcade bolter on veteran boils down to use exe and magdump or not even bother

[faint beacon]

(its the worst revolver)

[terse idol]

Gonna say the thingy

Canon, doesn't matter

[last parcel]

despite all known laws of aviation

[terse idol]

If I'm gonna get really goofy

Like super dooper goofy

[livid monolith]

honestly hand cannon is what makes or breaks revolver, even in its nerfed form it's still good which just displays how OP rending is

[faint beacon]

@tall torrent gotta take a piss but im down to do a match here in a second

[terse idol]

I'd say, GW forces FS to make these weapons to fall in line with the lore

[tall torrent]

@faint beacon lemme send u our priv server vc

[terse idol]

That is my

[tall torrent]

Ok

[pseudo fiber]

I know canon doesn't matter it's funny I wouldn't nerf revolver because of canon but it's funny it suckkkkks

[terse idol]

Most alien illuminati theory

[frank ether]

thats funny I don't even use it on agrippa

[terse idol]

I mean S&W in the IRL canon is pretty good

[pseudo fiber]

we don't got one of those

we got a revolver made in a shed

[frank ether]

hand cannon lets you clap crushers I guess but there are already so many capable melee options to do that with

so I like to meme with other options

[last parcel]

trickshot users:

[terse idol]

I mean, in canon

Like after 5 seconds glancing at the wiki

There are multiple variants of revolver

I could say these are moebian 6th revolvers, OR enforcer revolvers

That were well maintained

And powerful

CANON PLS

[frank ether]

I also like sustained fire aswell

I think its bugged though

[terse idol]

Come oooonn

[frank ether]

says damage on 3rd-4th shots but If I recall right it should apply it starting second shot

[last parcel]

yeah

[frank ether]

Its potent, zarona is not agrippa but it still puts impressive unyielding damage, just a tad slower

I'd say its better than bolter at it for how easy it is

bolter in practice is just what I wanted vraks 7 to be lmao

[terse idol]

Sorry I shouldn't have said enforcer revolvers but, they could be, came from a planet that was referenced once "Zarona" in an old book
@pseudo fiber

Like darn it

[pseudo fiber]

I mean it's up to interpretation

[terse idol]

They've made their own revolver essential into canon

[last parcel]

interpret my nuts with your mouth

[pseudo fiber]

but

[frank ether]

isnt warhammer power scaling up to how high the writer feels that day?

[terse idol]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[frank ether]

All I know about 40k power scaling is that shit is consistently inconsistent

[terse idol]

Also yes

[frank ether]

but a revolver hitting harder than a boltgun is... something

[terse idol]

Astartes typically are as strong or as weak as a story needs them to be

[terse idol]

Uhhhh

The boltgun we have is old

[frank ether]

Like if you try to explain it with lore its just opening a can of worms

just say gameplay and move on

[last parcel]

used the bolter barrel as a flesh light so it does less damage now

[terse idol]

The revolver has like, steel tipped AP rounds

[frank ether]

many such cases

[terse idol]

Yes it's just gameplay

[frank ether]

I've been having a blast with the pen change on teammates

[terse idol]

I was pleasantly suprised they changed the bolt gun sounds

[coral willow]

the damage is lower than a boltgun

but idk

[pseudo fiber]

darktide bolter sounds too good the space marine one is a bit... ehhhh

[coral willow]

small bullets hit harder or something

idk suicide squad shit

[frank ether]

surgical is too good

if you're not playing surgical bolt you're kinda giving up on a lot imo

deadshots also ads only

so you either go for that DMR build or you're worse off than a zarona

I don't think any nerf to zarona can fix this situation

actually Idk the crit chance math for going cavalcade magdump but just the anectode tells me its not very good

[terse idol]

I mean I just think it's hard to nerf the zarona

Because you only actually have 5 shots

We got like 1 build for it

WS

Best nerf would be to cleave

[last parcel]

i finished taking my shit and looks like you need both maniac and puncture to be t4
edit: with precision strikes, superiority complex, and both ranged dmg nodes using a 75 dmg bistol ymmv

idk if you solved this already because i'm not reading

[last parcel]

puncture 4 seems to be the move for that roll

[midnight totem]

the open areas on the new map are murderous

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-mk-mortalkombat-ninja-smoke-machine-gif-13905992

[midnight totem]

just carried a team through it on high int with dogs

[small loom]

what should I replace on this

[midnight totem]

double barrel annihilating 6-8 dogs at once lol

[zenith helm]

Anyone have a good veteran build for the pistol with invisibility and the ability to 1 shot specials and elites? I saw some guy do it and it was pretty awesome

[midnight totem]

revolver you mean?

[idle carbon]

not the best mace, but it has a decent stat spread
suggestions on how to change perks/blessings?

[upbeat snow]

help how do i do the make every shot count penance

does it work with shotguns

or like whats the least amount of ammo i can get

[livid fractal]

can i get a build for boltpistol

[cinder wadi]

which one of the shock mauls is better at horde clear?

[frank ether]

nuke falter

[livid fractal]

more specifically, wanting to commissar cosplay

voice of command, team utility stuff, but with boltpistol

[upbeat snow]

^^^

[pseudo fiber]

shoot all your bullets
shotguns are good for it don't take survivalist
idk srry

without missing

[upbeat snow]

do all of the shotgun pellets have to hit to be accuracy?

[pseudo fiber]

no

[livid fractal]

i mean build as in talents n such

[upbeat snow]

ok

try this rok

[zenith helm]

yes

[pseudo fiber]

use the old shotguns tho lawbringer mk6 the blue one. Alt shot and yeah ypu're good.
or plasma for cleave

[upbeat snow]

seems ok to me, someone more knowledgeable may have input

[idle carbon]

I expected as much, what to replace it with? high voltage, or maybe opportunist?

[upbeat snow]

the big concern i have is that my aim is garbajj, so more pellets, more aim

[midnight totem]

do you prefer stealth or shout

and whats your preferred melee?

[pseudo fiber]

no it's more if one hits then you're fine that shot counts. ergo bigger pellet spread higher chance of hitting. Just dump fire into a horde, ignore ammo pick ups, don't use survivalist and be good in melee you'll be gaming

[zenith helm]

stealth and power sword

[frank ether]

I'd try skullcrusher

[idle carbon]

alright

[livid fractal]

what are some good melees to pair with boltpistol

[livid fractal]

wanting to go for the commissar cosplay

[zenith helm]

thanks!

[last parcel]

go for chainsword/power sword

[unkempt estuary]

Chainsword of course

[upbeat snow]

chainsword is iconic

[livid fractal]

which chainsword

[pseudo fiber]

I mean you could also do focus target!

[zenith helm]

good or sht?

[pseudo fiber]

they're both good. You want heavies do green lights blue :)

[upbeat snow]

built this one earlier with help rok

[pseudo fiber]

sprint efficiency?

[livid fractal]

oh hey, thanks brunt

[upbeat snow]

if you read a little below some stuff was changed

[zenith helm]

yeah

[idle carbon]

from my limited personal experience, I would argue the indignatus has better horde clear since it has a faster horizontal combo
but IMO the combo is annoying to get right all the time
if you liked the claw4 sword, the agni shock maul has the same exact combos

[zenith helm]

been trying different perks

[pseudo fiber]

savage sweep rampage is good for this one. the thing is like if you use the blue one you use wrath rampage instead

[zenith helm]

what about this

[willow siren]

i agree with this, it's really easy to break the combo, esp if you get interupted

[zenith helm]

James what should I change on this revolver? I have never used one

[midnight totem]

well, I'm not going to lie, your revolver is looking not very good

[idle carbon]

I have a very similar revolver for my commando vet
silly crit stick

[willow siren]

man i spent so muhc time on ogryn i didnt know there are two chainswords in the game

[midnight totem]

but this is what you can do

[zenith helm]

Ok Ill try getting another one

[midnight totem]

point blank change to surgical or crucian

most people prefer crucian

er surgical*, sorry

I like crucian, but surgical is better usually

[idle carbon]

I have this one, great fun for whipping out a guaranteed crit with 10 stacks of melee weapon spec

[midnight totem]

stamina change to 1 of three things

manic, for flamer oneshots to the head

elite, for overall anti elite power

or carapace for taking down maulers and crushers

[zenith helm]

i see the perks and blessings i need then

[cinder wadi]

I can't really save it, can I?

[zenith helm]

ill try farming one

[midnight totem]

and I don't suggest carapace because you don't hand the blessing handcannon

[zenith helm]

im sitting on a ton of materials

[pseudo fiber]

If this is your best one you could keep falter and elites

[midnight totem]

you'll want to change my skill tree slightly

take out ogryn and rending

[zenith helm]

ok

[midnight totem]

go left side for more ammo and elite superiority instead

[cinder wadi]

it is sadly, what do I replace force and specialist with?

[zenith helm]

gotcha

[idle carbon]

at the very least keep that revolver

[zenith helm]

i just started playing after a year and the whole skill tree is new to me

have like 1k hours before all the updates

[midnight totem]

also I was in a game, but I personally would change your power sword's sprint to manic

[zenith helm]

James i was experimenting

i had it previously on maniac

[midnight totem]

so you can do one shot heavy swings on mutants

oh?

[zenith helm]

yeah

[midnight totem]

well, up to you then. I run manic/elite/carapace/unarmored on my power swords, in that order of preference

[zenith helm]

i changed it and tried for 2 games and not too bad tbh

[cinder wadi]

this good?

[zenith helm]

did 2 runs of dam maelstrom

[midnight totem]

looks like a great shock maul

[zenith helm]

gotcha yeah i love the same order as you

[cinder wadi]

is the 62% crowd bad?

[zenith helm]

is the shock maul as good as the Powersword?

what's the meta melee weapon atm?

[cinder wadi]

I think it's the cadia chainsword

[zenith helm]

gotcha

[tall torrent]

Rashad mk2 combat axe / mk6 power sword / mk6 combat blade

If u only care about the top 3

[cinder wadi]

the combat axes really?

[zenith helm]

I have this MK6

[tall torrent]

Rashad’s been the best melee in the game for a really long time

[zenith helm]

not a fan of the swing action

[tall torrent]

It’s not best vs any particular enemy but it’s 2nd or 3rd best in most if not all fields

[cinder wadi]

Doesn't rashad struggle with horde clear or is it ok if you reach enough dmg?

[tall torrent]

It’s probably the best horde clear in the game

[pseudo fiber]

Flak or maniac
And I'm not sure on blessings. The one that makes you do more damage to electrocuted enemies.

[tall torrent]

U need brutal momentum on it

[zenith helm]

which is the better sword in the meta Powersword Mk 3 or 6?

[tall torrent]

Brutal momentum, headtaker, unarmored dmg perk

[cinder wadi]

gotcha

[tall torrent]

High stat roll in first target, penetration, finesse & dmg

Mobility >51%

2nd perk preferably carapace imo

It’s very hard to roll but it’s extremely strong

[tall torrent]

6

[cinder wadi]

Do you know if 62% crowd control is bad for shock maul?

[tall torrent]

It’s fine

[zenith helm]

can you tell me why?

[tall torrent]

Better moveset

[zenith helm]

hmm

thanks ill play with it more often then

I have been using the MK3 for ever

[pseudo fiber]

You can use the mk3 it's preference really they're both good.

[stoic basalt]

bit late to the party but need to ask how are the new weapons? and what are considered the better blessings on the shock maul?

[zenith helm]

Im bored of the MK3 tbh, ive used it too much

ive used an abused it for ever

its gotten boring

[pseudo fiber]

Shock mauls - good. Slots nicely into the weapon list. Fun and well made.
Bolt pistol - Depends on who you ask. I personally like it but it could just a few tiny buffs.
Shotgun - It's alright. Fun but it's effectiveness can be debated. Range is bad.
Pickaxes - Ask #ogryn-class

[zenith helm]

I love the Catachan Mk4 but i dont know what bessings to use on it

[stoic basalt]

nice

[zenith helm]

I have this

[pseudo fiber]

I mean

Savage sweep?

I'm not sure how horizontal the swings on that are.

[zenith helm]

I have access to T4 SS I can put it on

what about

[patent birch]

best axe?

[zenith helm]

or

[late hatch]

rashad

[pseudo fiber]

Savage sweep can loop into savage sweep so I personally like it more. If you vibe with crits then devastating strike is okay. Savage has better cleave though

[zenith helm]

gotcha

SS it is then

[pseudo fiber]

However it entirely depends on how easy it is to get the first hit to proc it

[pseudo fiber]

For example the mk iv chainsword works great with Savage sweep because it's heavy is a nice... sweep. Buuut the mk xiig doesn't work well with Savage sweep because it's lights don't have enough cleave and it's heavies are strikedown. So you use wrath on that instead.

[zenith helm]

hmm

[upbeat snow]

i got da penance :)

[wild vortex]

anybody know the go-to perks/blessings for Saul?

[pseudo fiber]

Nice nice.

[upbeat snow]

now i have to not get meleed ever in a malice mission :(

[pseudo fiber]

I think someone's gotta write down something for the new weapons and have it pinned. Numbers cat?

[pseudo fiber]

It's taking health damage not don't be melee'd ever.
Gold toughness from shout + stay at full toughness to prevent melee bleed through. Play safe it's piss easy.

[upbeat snow]

ok

[zenith helm]

anyone have any thoughts on how this can be improved

[pseudo fiber]

That's good

Dumdum is better for damage

If you have that

[zenith helm]

i do

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah dumdum is on hit while fire frenzy is on kill

[upbeat snow]

i was under the impression that toughness damage counted as damage

[humble meteor]

Good roll but not god roll

[pseudo fiber]

Nope it's just health damage

[zenith helm]

done

[upbeat snow]

but it is Melee health damage, right?

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah okay it is phrased confusingly

White health

Don't take damage from melee there.

[upbeat snow]

ok

[livid fractal]

ruined?

[pseudo fiber]

Melee attacks have bleed through on anything that isn't full toughness (aka yoy take a little health damage) so stay at full toughness. VoC a lot (you should do this anyway) you're good.

[humble meteor]

Dog pounce corruption counts too

[pseudo fiber]

... I'm gonna be honest it's a bit shit. Keep it for the item update the rolls are really nice. For now if you don't care about meta Savage sweep, rampage easy peasy.

[last parcel]

rampage shred works too

[pseudo fiber]

They're damage boosting perks which is good

At least.

[faint beacon]

Bloodthirsty paired with...

[humble meteor]

Shred usable but perks bricked

[faint beacon]

something.

I know it has a build with it

[humble meteor]

Bloodthirsty rev it up kinda funny

[pseudo fiber]

Rev it up is such a funny blessing

Give us 10% crit chance after revving or whatever

[humble meteor]

I run a speedlot rev it up eviscerator sometimes
Most fun i've ever had in this game

[pseudo fiber]

One of my favourite missions I ever had was when the pennance update came out and I played in a pub with 3 other vets and we were all using smoke grenades.

COULDNT SEE FUCK ALL

[humble meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/petty-parker-smoke-snoop-dogg-homer-simpson-disappear-gif-17093677

[pseudo fiber]

I can't see. Dregs can't see. Scabs can't see. Noone can see.

The chaos spawn can see fuckfuckfuckfuck

[cinder wadi]

NONE SHALL SHOOT

I really wish vet's grenades were more easily accessable cuz I would run smoke much more often

[upbeat snow]

POG I GOT THE PENANCE

[humble meteor]

[pseudo fiber]

Good stuff gamer

[upbeat snow]

i almost thought a burster ended that run for it but it wasnt melee damage, i also had a very close call with a crusher i almost didnt see

im going to bed, good morning all

[pseudo fiber]

Now you got the like Misc grindy stuff?

[upbeat snow]

does dream team have a threat level minimum btw?

[pseudo fiber]

Krak grenades count any scab enemies btw

[pseudo fiber]

No

Just a grind

I have 500 hours and I think I'm on 86 so

Yea.

[upbeat snow]

so i could just run 49 more level 1 missions

[pseudo fiber]

Yes

If you want to genuinely lose you mind

[midnight totem]

I'm at 1000+ hours and am at 58 >_>

[upbeat snow]

im at 51, could help new players not die

[last parcel]

i'm at 800 and got 70

[pseudo fiber]

I speedran uprising missions to get the zone completions to finish up my penance pass and went from like 45 to 86 now.

[last parcel]

therefore less hours means it's easier

[upbeat snow]

i have 301 hours

and im at 51

[midnight totem]

I think I stopped making progress on it since I started auric damnation

[pseudo fiber]

Yeah it sucks

[pseudo fiber]

Yep I think I got one today though. On the new mission no less.

But when I go get one it's like an event lmfao

[upbeat snow]

howd you manage that?

[pseudo fiber]

I keep it tracked tho

Idk got lucky

[upbeat snow]

not one person got cliff boomed?

[last parcel]

rob a mexican monkey

[upbeat snow]

rare

[pseudo fiber]

Psyker that could count and a stealth and shout vet while I shouted

[pseudo fiber]

Somehow no. Everyone played well. No boss on that nightmare balcony. Went fine.

[midnight totem]

thats a rare match

[pseudo fiber]

Hey ill take a cakewalk any day of the week

Oh and like everyone was using the new weapons (or at least the shockmaul) so I got 250 kills for the event for more free shit too

[upbeat snow]

has there been an influx of new players since the minecraft update or am i just seeing more stupid people?

[midnight totem]

yes

some old players returning, they're a bit rusty

some bad players moving up (or trying to)

[pseudo fiber]

Went from 3k to like 10k

[pseudo fiber]

I felt that rust when I played vermintide again then crutched warrior priest because its the goated subclass.

[midnight totem]

lol

[pseudo fiber]

So much fun I love the talent (skill? Perk?) That makes it so when you use your ability it undoes damage you took recently its like "I took a storm vermin hit? No I didn't."

So dumb

The weapons are so much fun I hope the port the maul moveset into darktide.

No fucking idea what it'd be like a sledgehammer or something

[upbeat snow]

idk i only briefly played vermintide and played fire witch lady(bad with names)

[pseudo fiber]

Sienna

[midnight totem]

my favorite class was always foot knight Kruber

but, I'm not going to lie

he's severely powercrept

[upbeat snow]

i saw a vet in darktide a couple days ago named MarkusKruber it was funny

[pseudo fiber]

Could be huntsman

I've never seen a good huntsman kruber.

I've... never seen a huntsman kruber really but

[midnight totem]

thats because they all retired

[pseudo fiber]

Never a good one either

[midnight totem]

my second vet is actually named Marcus, supposed to be an expy of Markus Kruber

[upbeat snow]

i also saw a stealth zealot named kerillian

[pseudo fiber]

I've seen mercenary, foot soldier, so... so many grail Knights but

No huntsman

[midnight totem]

I also played a lot of kerillian in VT

if only to stop other kerillian players

[pseudo fiber]

I played Saltzpyre which is why my vet is called Victor_Futurespyre

[upbeat snow]

i have 5 characters

4 are BaronVonPicklez

one is ButcherPete

and he is hacking and whacking and smacking his way through the meat supplies(unwashed locals) knocking on his door(atoma)

[last parcel]

choppin up all them women's meat

[upbeat snow]

now he did go to church one sunday night, and he gave the zealots a fit, when he went hacking on the Pul-Pit

[umbral scaffold]

HAI so is it normal for plasma gun and lasgun to use up 2-3 tick of ammo per shot ?

[last parcel]

yes

[umbral scaffold]

any reason why ?

[gilded rock]

NEW SHOTGUN WITH WS SO FUN

[gilded rock]

Probably because of the charge up on plasma, not sure why with the single shot lasguns though

[umbral scaffold]

i could understand on crits but every shot of seemingly any las gun i use uses 2 ammo

[pearl granite]

how do I fix this? 😅

[umbral scaffold]

thought it was a bug cause of how silly it seemed

[fleet thicket]

That's good one though

[pearl granite]

I want it to be better

[umbral scaffold]

like i get its balancing work of some sort but i do NOT like it have it stated nowhere on the weapon it doing that

out of the loop it feels like a bug

[pearl granite]

totally no idea about shock maul blessing...

[last parcel]

hammer --> skullcrusher

[umbral scaffold]

id ratehr have it display the real number than some 2x ed number that just doesnt give me the acurate thing

[pearl granite]

okay. gotta find that blessing first XD

[gilded rock]

my only problem so far is that run n' gun is bugged on new shotgun occasionally

[bitter turtle]

not a great explanation but if i had to guess, flavor reasons

gets across the idea that "these lasers are stronger" if one consumes 1 per shot and the other consumes 2

[pearl granite]

trying to make a bolt pistol now, any recommended perk + blessing for me? 😄

think i'm going to use it for specials

not mag dump

[austere mica]

Surgical and the crit weakspot blessing

[last parcel]

(deadly accurate)

[pearl granite]

what I have for now...

[woeful ibex]

My goto vs hordes

[pearl granite]

wish unyielding was maniac 😂

[woeful ibex]

especially when they're running straight towards me

[pearl granite]

look nice

hmm... weapon customization doesn't support bolt pistol yet. I want to use a scope longer than the gun itself

[last parcel]

update it

[pearl granite]

oh, new version is out?

lemme see

i dl'ed it 3 days ago

[cinder wadi]

is there a "best" out of the 3 helbore lasguns?

[last parcel]

1 and 2 are most popular, 3 is niche and has shitty bayonet speed

[cinder wadi]

what is the difference between 1 and 2?

[last parcel]

2 shoots fastest with lowest damage

still enough to oneshot most things but requries perk setup

3 hits hardest and its fully charged shots are overkill in most cases, so 1 is the middle child

[tawny glen]

which brauto is best

[last parcel]

graia shoots fastest
agripinaa hits hardest and can cleave
your choice from those

[tawny glen]

i just made this

what u thonk

[last parcel]

that's basically perfect lmao

[tawny glen]

o sick

finally lucky

or grinded pay off

[midnight totem]

Dum dum 3 not 4 clearly bricked

[last parcel]

literally unplayable

[tawny glen]

no bully ok

one day itll be dum dum 4

i actually kinda hate this thing

it doesnt pew loud enough

[bitter turtle]

ummm

locked flak tier 3 perk?

might a swell sell it to brunt

jk

[last parcel]

just start screaming into your mic to make up for it

AAAAAAAA MY BODY IS A WEAPON

[inland canopy]

on veteran the increase crit at weak spot and crit increase during aim is good, since vet has recoil ignore

for now though bolt pistol is like a worse buggy bolter

i've noticed it whiffs when it animation cancels while you change weapon

[hidden remnant]

is this useable? Spent 200k and im struggling to roll more than 70% dmg

[inland canopy]

i've made it a habit to keep certain rolls for multiple guns as specialities

[hidden remnant]

Thoughts?

I havent played for forever and wanna build up different classes so as long as it's not complete garbage i think I'm happy

Only slowly getting into endgame too so not super rich xD

[bitter turtle]

crit strike -> elite

volatile -> gloryhunter/blaze away

yea its usable

though dmg is on the lower side

plasma is busted anyway so whatever

[inland canopy]

its fine imo its able to built into crit specialty

voaltile and high charge rate makes it good for rapid fire

[hidden remnant]

Don't think I have either of those unlocked, deffo not at t4 :/

I figured I'd slap 25% unyielding and carapace on it since I saw a couple of those in here, so it'd be close enough

What do you guys think?

[inland canopy]

i think you can just keep at unyielding at 20%

and choose to replace get heat in a future time so you can change blessings for flexibility

but that's me personally

[hidden remnant]

So just replace crit into carapace and leave it be?

[inland canopy]

personally that's how i feel

i don't discriminate as much between 20% and 25% damage blessing personally, but its a matter of whether you think the stack will make the difference, the only way to know is in the psychanium really

i just don't like having so much FOMO about that 5%

[light ridge]

What's the consensus on Curios for Veteran? I'm running 2 Toughness, 1 Wound
Should I invest in Stamina?

[pallid jetty]

i run 3 toughness

[patent birch]

bro should just wait for crafting update ngl

[pallid jetty]

on everyone i run 3 toughness

[light ridge]

Thanks, I run one wound because I tend to go down too much...
Need to work on that

[bitter turtle]

elite is better than carapace

elite gives you the 3 shot on crushers while also giving you bps on dreg gunners and some other shit idr

carapace is redundant

[inland canopy]

if you can roll a 3 stamina from store always grab

but yeah on everyone i run 6 stamina and 1 toughness

[inland canopy]

there are times i feel like elite and maniac have way more practical application though they are only 10%

[somber axle]

2 HP curios let you hit a funny HP breakpoint where you can tank 2 sniper shots to your HP or 2 poxbursters popping in your face from full toughness and not go down

I run 3 stam curios because I am a deadshot fiend

Vet scales very well with toughness but between Iron Will, Close Quarters Drill, Confirmed Kill, etc. we have a lot of TDR and toughness restore already

Wounds are generally not good to run and are just there while you're learning the game tbh

1 wound curio can be ok if you're pushing into damnation or aurics for the first time

once you're comfortable ditch the wounds

[inland canopy]

in general i think extra stamina is just sensible, wound becomes less important when you start to manage more whether you get hit at all

[somber axle]

at least 1 stam curio is usually good

[inland canopy]

shoving and good positioning is what keeps you alive more often

[thick kestrel]

ok, had a couple of evenings playing around with the mk3 shockmaul on my combat specialist loadout... damn it feels great :>

once I figured out how to reset the horde fighting combo it all snapped back together

it goes bonk!

[twin cipher]

Does lethal proximity 4 even exist cant get it to roll for the life of me

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/bbdeeae9457aa2bf98422db97125c51b.png

finally fucking rolled something usable

[umbral parrot]

Damn, nice!

Meanwhile, mine bricked.

[bitter turtle]

😔

[umbral parrot]

I mean....

I guess i can keep Terrifying Barrage.

And Flak.

It has everything i want. Range, stopping power, Mobility, and Reload speed! Literally the best thing a Weapon Specialist can ask for~! ! !

So mad! 😠

[bitter turtle]

id keep deathspitter if you do both barrels

or heck

even if you dont

terrifying barrage sucks

[umbral parrot]

I know~! ! !

Who am i going to supress? Poxwalkers!?

[bitter turtle]

fwiw deathspitter stacks

it doesnt say it does

but it does

up to 5

[umbral parrot]

WOAH

Wait

Are you sure!? Going to swap out Terrifying Barrage for Both Barrels.

[bitter turtle]

yes

https://i.gyazo.com/6e38b0f0e09a1361344c67d92af39b86.jpg

stacks up to 5 times

[last parcel]

fuck terrifying barrage all my homies hate tuberculosis

[umbral parrot]

All i need is a Deathsplitter IV

[bitter turtle]

im trying it w/o both barrels

is still trivial to maintain 5 stacks if you're shooting in a row

and

you should change terrifying barrage instead

[umbral parrot]

Already did.

[bitter turtle]

deathspitter 1

is only

1.5% less dmg per stack

[umbral parrot]

Changing both blessings.

[bitter turtle]

its almost nothing

id change infested instead

even at max stack that's -7.5% dmg only

infested is pretty bad

only affects dogs and poxwalkers

both of which alr die

well

[umbral parrot]

Look at there be an update where they add an infested Poxbringer. Then i'll be screwed.

[bitter turtle]

acutlaly

i remember

someone said infested has a use case for double barrel

let me check

[last parcel]

manstopper

infested lets you kill them

[bitter turtle]

ah okay

[last parcel]

or agile engagement

[bitter turtle]

ok i see

at longer range id oesnt kill poxwalkers

well

depends on what you want then

[umbral parrot]

NVM, i bought a new gun.

Hadron, bless me please~!

[last parcel]

terrifying barrage again

[umbral parrot]

Nope

[twin cipher]

Does anyone have pics of tier 4 lethal prox lol

Can’t get it to roll after like 30 blue rolls

Gotten 3 a bunch

[bitter turtle]

bblue has a lower chance to roll t4

https://i.gyazo.com/0c642ce4eb2769eb1c4e7d8534b09069.jpg

does this count

lmao

[twin cipher]

Yah that’s good

It’s only 5% hm

And darn didn’t know about the blue just been doing blue cus it’s cheaper then rolling golds

[lyric zenith]

sry is this mod still working? and how it works, i tried to select perks and blessings but i can only choose one and does not seem to effect on my weapon :/

[bitter turtle]

yea it still works

i did redl it

idk if there was an update

i redl'd all my mods

[lyric zenith]

so you create your loadout, choose perks and blessing and then you can test your weapon?

[bitter turtle]

yes

[last parcel]

loadout config hasn’t gotten an update for months last i checked

[lyric zenith]

oh alright, weird tho cuz i didnt see any difference with perks and blessings

[old quail]

weapon specialist double barrel is fun except for all the parts where my camera is launched downwards

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-kill-among-us-neck-crack-gif-8013517527262499925

[twin cipher]

Bolt pistol aim correct is so annoying

Also the reticle lying lol

Makes me feel like my aim is ass

[inland canopy]

there is also constant camera sway

[twin cipher]

I miss so much I feel bad lmfao

I legit miss point blank groaners at times cus of it

[inland canopy]

also bolt pistol realigns after recoil like this slow animation

like molasses

[twin cipher]

The alt fire is a bit better at least

[bitter turtle]

i just tried my first double barrel game

knife + double barrel makes you feel like a badass

really fun

lmao

[old quail]

it does

https://streamable.com/ce7obm

i dont think this gameplay is great but the style of it

man

if only i wasnt constantly looking at my fucking SHOES after swapping

[bitter turtle]

lol

yea i think it reall ydoes feel painful knowing you effective range is like

10m

but

diving at gunners and double barreling them mid slide

after swapping from knife to sprint at them

peak

[last parcel]

TIME FOR LONGSHOT

[old quail]

i dont know if sliding into a special and OBLITERATING it will ever get old

wish i had manstopper on it

[bitter turtle]

yeah i gotta make another one

scattershot/both barrels is on this one

wanna try scattershot/manstopper

[old quail]

getting 12 shots back if you have +25% ammo is p nice for it as well

[umbral parrot]

No way, this may be a god roll!

I've always wanted Finesse and Crit to be the highest~!

[old quail]

db is fun on zealot but ws vet feels like a whole dimension above it

[umbral parrot]

God roll 2.0~?!

[bitter turtle]

i would roll another one

that dmg stat is uh

really bad

below 50

[last parcel]

damage is a dump stat

hey why cant i oneshot things

[umbral parrot]

It's fiiiine,

[mossy monolith]

dumb question, whats the dif between chainsword 4 and 13

[bitter turtle]

chainsword 4 has sweeping heavies for clear

chainsword 13 just spam light

i suggest 4 for vet

[mossy monolith]

[bitter turtle]

ofc

if you plan to just spam light

[umbral parrot]

Yea, 4 has 2 strikedowns. Double wam on heads = dead stuff.

[bitter turtle]

run 13

[mossy monolith]

i have seeing people use 13 more

[bitter turtle]

you need wrath though

instead of savage sweep

[mossy monolith]

i do wish there was a location where i can see all the best blessing

oh wait, the pin

[bitter turtle]

the pin is slightly outdated

but

it should be mostly correct

[mossy monolith]

how outdated

[wanton dawn]

1-2 patch

[mossy monolith]

doesn't sound that bad, also your right its Wrath + Rampage

what stats should i focus on the Plasma Gun

[bitter turtle]

damage and stopping power

[mossy monolith]

thx

[bitter turtle]

btw bots got banned apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hC4ccOEK08

[mossy monolith]

[somber axle]

WH

but like

HOW?

LOL

[bitter turtle]

idk this guy makes a lot of reliable tf2 info though

[somber axle]

16,000 accounts for botting? That's INSANE

[last parcel]

valve finally doin the treadmill work

[bitter turtle]

supposedly a discord for making tf2 bots had to close too

maybe legal action

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-sniper-meet-the-team-heavy-gif-8362521563090820854

[thick kestrel]

Valve sitting hiding their sniper dot waiting for the bots to pop out around the corner

[bitter turtle]

well

if you want to enjoy botless tf2 again

now's ur chance lul

[last parcel]

well, off to visit your mother

[somber axle]

Reading the comments on this, it seems Valve/Steam figured out a way to trace bot accounts back to their main accounts

and those hosting bot accounts are being warned while their bot accounts are banned

they've found a way to reliably investigate and link bot hoster main accounts to their fake bot accounts and can now threaten the main hoster accounts

that's probably why the bot hosters are closing up shop

[bitter turtle]

all their precious hats are on the line

[somber axle]

thousands of hours and hundreds to thousands of dollars for whatever they've bought and earned on their account is now threatened

bot hosters have a loaded gun pointed at their main accounts and are being told not to make Valve pull the trigger

LOL

[last parcel]

valve on their way to send belarusian hitmen to the bot hosters

[bitter turtle]

so you're telling me valve back-traced them 👻

[somber axle]

this comes at the worst possible time too

I'm all in on FF14 Dawntrail LOL

My whole friend group is in on that game right now me included

[bitter turtle]

CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME

and lol

yeah i figure

just letting you know since the convo came up the other day

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

[somber axle]

I will give TF2 another chance

I have missed the game

but I can't spare the time for it now

plus I promised my significant other we would do the entire xpac story together

and one of my friends was trying to get us to take a slight break from FF14 to try Lethal Company for some update

and also some possible State of Decay 2 and/or Content Warning

maybe I can sneak in a TF2 game here or there though

but anyway thanks for the info

😄

[bitter turtle]

i barely have time for games myself nowadays

[somber axle]

Life has too many responsibilities and the list keeps growing

The only thing saving my chance at having a social life and personal time to enjoy gaming is not having kids or schooling to worry about on top of working

[bitter turtle]

i just dedicate a lot of time to art now recently

also teachin my SO how to draw

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-western-clint-eastwood-gun-gif-14191492

[somber axle]

Nice! Love art

And I've definitely spent more than I should have on art too

[low notch]

Imagine if bolter was better than revolver at body damage

Like a lucid dream

[topaz lance]

qq, do the combat shotties have built in suppression immunity?

[somber axle]

yes

[topaz lance]

Great, thanks! I definitely felt like this in game but wanted to confirm

one node to skip on my agri build then.

[modern crescent]

smoke chads is it finally our time

[grand perch]

mobility 13% but at least theres sprint efficiency

[delicate moat]

don't need mobility if all enemies are dead taps forehead

[old quail]

https://streamable.com/79pd6a

i dont remember bolter doing this to hounds

[quiet parrot]

Guys. Will devs buff bolt pistol ? Or is there a secret talent combination that makes it as viable as revolvers ?

So far its very disappointing

I even bought a skin for it, which blocks my sights with candle flames

[thick kestrel]

Surgical + deadly accurate and Maniac + elite damage has been working for me

results in easy 1-2 hit kills on pretty much all "man sized" targets including both classes of rager and both types of gunner

taking supression immunity and deadshot is working for me to keep it under control

and treat it like a onehanded DMR rather than a revolver

[winter grove]

May the Emperor guide your aim

Lmao

[quiet parrot]

Will it one shot poxwalkers ?

[fading grove]

Revolver is overtuned and the best weapon in the game until adjustments for it happen no

[quiet parrot]

Cause its just a joke

Freakin bolt pistol not being able to destroy a simple zombie

[winter grove]

When it doesn't?

I mean I use it on my WS

And it always oneshots whatever I aim it at

[quiet parrot]

In head yes

[winter grove]

Sometimes in body

And always if we're talking about chaff like poxwalkers and groaners

[quiet parrot]

I am running auric maelstrom wit it

Cant body shot anyone

[winter grove]

And I am running it on auric and it's green quality

[quiet parrot]

Its basic ranking is over 370

[torn gorge]

[quiet parrot]

Guess i am just unlucky

What is your stats ?

[winter grove]

Fuck if I know rn

It's above 70% dmg all I am concerned

[quiet parrot]

I have bleeding so it can “one shot”

[quiet parrot]

What about plasma gun ?

[fading grove]

Overtuned

[winter grove]

Plasma, CIAG and Zarona are the OP trio

[quiet parrot]

Its feels more versatile

[fading grove]

I personally refuse to use them cause I can’t turn of my brain for that long

[torn gorge]

ofc its more versatile when you can dome a line of specials with 1 shot

[winter grove]

I like ciag because dakka

[quiet parrot]

I like power swords

[winter grove]

And with weapon customization mod I made it look like agri brauto

[quiet parrot]

Even if they are nerfed to death

[winter grove]

So it feels more powerful too

Plasma and Zarona are point and click adventure style guns

[fading grove]

Still the best melee in the game

Even if nerfed

[winter grove]

Point it at enemy and it dies in one shot

[quiet parrot]

You cunt dodge with them

[fading grove]

You can just skill issue

[quiet parrot]

As good as with other weapons

[winter grove]

Yeah you can

[torn gorge]

run weapon specialist

[fading grove]

^

[torn gorge]

now you can dodge with them

[fading grove]

Run a stamina curio

[torn gorge]

[quiet parrot]

I do

[fading grove]

Idk man I just use classic shovel that’s all I need

[quiet parrot]

But its still better with knives or cattachan knives

[winter grove]

Idk how y'all can handle using one melee for so long

I have different melee for every build because I can't stand not having variety

[fading grove]

Weapon specialist and classic shovel is comfy and satisfying

[quiet parrot]

I tried using shovels

Feels strange