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and it does that
the rest of the tree depends on the gun and whatever else you want
Does flesh tearer help a lot against horde?
not really
It’s 30% spread reduction not sprinting, 20% spread reduction when sprinting
The close Dmg bonus is only applied when sprinting
ok?
So 16 bleed stacks kill elites really quickly?
well
more like 8
cus if you crit twice
almost everything is gonna be dead
Vs smaller isolated groups of enemies, yes
Vs super dense hordes, no
but yes it fills in some breakpoints
also what you think about heavy laspistol vs normal laspistol
most ppl (including me) prefer mk2 (normal fast one)
There’s only heavy laspistol, mk2 and mk10
ah okay
Mk2 is one of the best weapons u can use
Mk10 is a complete meme
well
i wouldnt go that far
i used it sometimes
but yea i dont really see a benefit over mk2
laspistol is a spam gun
spamming less for slightly higher dmg per shot is not a worthwhile tradeoff
agree
Run 'n' Gun Agri "viable"?
i do
I do, more than I should
frags are better but smokes allows easy access to 10% melee dmg + agile engagement
so i often take em anyway
i like them more than krak grenades
at least
so its a decent compromise in my eyes
Yeah, basically only reason why i am not switching it
my build
you can take a look, i recorded how it affects them
though they do not do anything vs mutant/bombers sadly
oooh, that's nice to know
do u actually need duck and dive for anything
So it does not affect mutants?
and trappers
trappers are affected
their range is shortened
they just dont become stupid like dogs/flamers
but they have to run in closer at least
Better off with either of the grenades.
not really, but what do i even replace it with
I wish the grenade choice was more freeing in the tree. Like it is above the nades where all three branches come together
I want frags Ez to get with right path and smokes Ez to get with left path
could get iron will but
maybe you dont need it
and with fleshtearer could remove serrated blade
if you didnt already pick it up
and ya
if you are not going mercy killer
dont bother picking up serrated blade
1 bleed stack is worthless
Funny
But wouldn’t
ok, deadshot instead of it then
i did start liking bleeding and poison in all games lately for some reason
do the yeehaw cowboy build
sprint hipfire everywhere
yes i know that's a zarona in the clip
you're running laspistol right?
if so, i suggest taking shocktrooper before anything else, esp since we're not pathing through survivalist
fwiw
if you are playing laspistol
this is my tree
i actually go infiltrate instead but htat is just because i like infiltrate
It’s a nice bonus most of the time
oh for sure
just
he didnt have iron will
so i was just 🤔
i mean maybe he's just ultra pro idk
Why no close quarters killing
its nice and all but the build is already stretched thin on pts as is
also i definitely not use melee specialist enough with knife
i use it a plenty with plasma
but forget about it when running knife
keep in mind
because i become SPEED
the laspis build im running doesnt get to take the 20% ogryn dmg
cus like i said
already stretched thin on pts
so it comes slightly short on the le funny 2 tap on crusher
gotta throw in an extra light
i can afford to take it on guns that are less picky about what nodes they want on tree though
like v3 + knife
I don't care much about ogryn damage
well that works, js, that's why i skip some things
cause ive already dropped everything i could concievably drop
and no dropping invograted (the subnode under wep specialist )is not an option either
its rly important imo
since it means any time you swap to knife you're guaranteed enough stam to push atk twice
which heavy + 2 push atks should always be enough dmg to delete almost any enemy
also means you'll never accidentally fuck up and not have enough stam to make use of agile engagement for your knife combos
which will enable the better bps on ogryns like the crusher 2tap even without the ogryn dmg node btw
just conditional on the swap is all
I think I’m gonna go back to Rashad 
ah, right
tpyed before seeing this
Beware that both maulers & crushers have a fast sweeping attack which knife can’t stagger them out of
You need to dodge out of their range (which is a bit further than knife’s attack range)
This means in practice, a lot of the times you don’t have as crazy ttk vs crushers & maulers as in theory
Unless they’re not targeting u, then you can go for a pretty fast 3 hit kill
Ok, laspistol + knife is pretty good
Although i am not convinced on bleeding
only 40k damage
Also i had smoke grenades
Flesh tearer? Yea
It’s not that high in Dmg in practice
It’s mainly to meet some niche breakpoints
And to drastically cut down clear time vs smaller isolated groups of enemies
how you get such huge crits
i need 1 heavy and 4 push attacks to kill a crusher
The power of executor + desperado, baby
At max uncanny stacks u should only need 3 weakspot hits
are you testing with or without uncanny stacks
cause most of these videos are with max uncanny
unstacked it should take you 4 hits without crits
My highest record was 3480 (not recorded)
2nd highest was 3402
On avg in most games you get 3080~3150 if u time it well
After 3150 it’s just chasing small frame differences
Well, 3600 if u 2 crit kill
i think only precog can do that
Executor can
Just needs max stacks
executor should too yeah
I’d much rather play executor over precog
Precog only exists for precog + duellist funny on zealot where u rely >50% of ur Dmg on a conditional dodge activation
ok tbh it is rly hard NOT to crit once in 4 atks
base damage gets multipleid by everything, right?
i did crit once
you should be able to 3 tap with acrit, 4tap without
This is only melee & ranged Dmg
It’s not +dmg
+dmg is different (affects DOT too)
my crits do 1100 damage
🤔
As long as u can reliably 3 hit with max uncanny
Do you hav ce carapace perk?
It’s fine
Still need 4 hits even with uncanny
5 without
Ah, yes, this is exactly what i am getitngg
even a completely naked no uncanny raw crit from me does 1.1k
without ogryn talent
so
I asked if you use carapacep erk
yea i use cara/elite
i think flak/cara might also be worth trying? havent treied it myself though
by the way
did you know that punches can proc lacerate but not flesh tearer
My knife is Flak elite but it's the 3 on a zealot
lacerate finally meta for boxing build
Nice to reliably oneshot gunners
What is the best gun for general use?
not specialised
no, revolver very much specialised
Not enough ammo for horde clear
Why would you horde clear with vet ranged weapon though
I mean, if you want to do that you can also take the agri brauto which cleave horde 
Fair, but Graia goes brrrrrr
Brb hordeclearing with recon 😎
Recon with Infil
That’s the most psyker thing I’ve read all day
Because ammo is so abundunt it does not matter
Srsly tho like Azrael said, revolver is very general purpose
Revolver with handcannon
I see the randoms in lobby. Please use crit blessings + handcannon
Revolver getting nerfed and it’s still fucking good as the general purpose weapon of choice lmao
Shred and savage sweep for a chainsword?
Sour milk is selling one that has both at t3 and it has decent stats.
63% damage to pop scab gunners, take it or leave it.
More accurate to say not enough ammo for random shooter clear
But they are way less scary than they used to be
If revolver removed the insane cleave, it'd be fine
Revolver should get assail tracking
I want to see the revolver shot 180 headshot people
Wanted
i am actually using executor on zealot (after having used precog + riposte) and it's great honestly
Based 
Chainaxe, based or cringe?
based
Pulled one with rampage and thrust both at 3 with decent stats.
Scuse me, not rampage, headtaker.
Brain is scrambled eggs.
What do you mean, 12?
Oh model number.
you want thrust on the 12
The 4 clears with heavies and singles with lights iirc
Pulled a 4.
The 12 is the opposite or something
Alright, yeah, I see what you mean now.
Mk4 is bad.
Guess its getting sacrificed to Hadron for headtaker.
Is it bad?
Not sure about that either way, but it's probably more awkward at least
The newer chain weapons are all much simpler but I prefer the old assault chainsword 4 to the new 13g
It does like a pseudo rev attack on the lights.
Much like an eviscerator mk15 heavy.
The mk12, on the other hand, does normal lights and the pseudo rev on the heavies.
All in all, it's moveset that makes me decide what is and isn't good, and the mk4 moveset is very hard to use, I imagine, to pick out a specific target in a horde.
Cop or nop(e)?
she's a beaut 
get rid of falter/groaners and you're good
the stopping power is a touch low but
69% is all you need
The stats got me excited but its a big fat brick
yea that feling sucks
A little low stopping power
Doing the Marksmans Focus penance, do people use Camoflage so they generate focus while standing, or Long Range Assassin so you have some wiggle room before you drop below 10 stacks?
camo is most effective
Camo is easier, when a horde comes just plant/crab walk and melee everything
Wait, melee kills count?
All kills count while you have 10 stacks. Shredder frag kills count too 👍
It definitely does lol
In my defense, why wouldnt the penance that uses a shooting keystone make you use guns
I thought the same thing at first, since that would make sense.
When I was doing it, I brought a revolver so every now and then I could fire blindly into a horde at head level and get 6 seconds of movement freedom
Play carnival alone and just stick around the initial area after bombing the wall
I've been kind of bouncing around guns switching when I got fed up with them lol, mainly Lawbringer, Zarona and Columnus
I'm on console so playing alone is very much a "if the server allows" situation
Oh good luck with that
Because god forbid Fatshark allow you to just play alone, even if its with AI that dont scale/level
Because it counts all kills and u sorta just make multi-kills easier with melee & grenades
Good god is this so much easier being able to melee hordes
Let’s just say that most guns don’t kill 4 enemies per hit
if you're doing it speedy take the lawbringer
if you want to use it effectively you take a weapon with a reasonably high capacity magazine and remove lots of enemies from the map one at a time
i use it with stuff like bolters and autoguns and lasguns and executors stance
Lawbringer is fastest and funniest + no crab walk necessary if you go meme build with Manstopper/Scattershot for the Marksman's Focus 10 stack 2500 kill penance
but crabwalk melee + grenade build is also an option
ratling sniper gameplay
just go into game settings, swap crouch to a toggle and then hit it once you're at 10 stacks and never uncrouch
but good luck keeping up with the team while crabwalking LOL
you could use knife while crabwalking but then you're awkwardly aiming up at heads for a weird diagonal angle for Uncanny and your horde clear is even worse than a normal knife because the angle is wrong for catching multiple heads consistently
knife would at least give you very long dodges for side dodging after your team
probably better to use something like power sword for crab walk memes though
charge blade and go ham into hordes
you pretty much only do the crabwalk meme when you'r estalled in a horde anyway
god forbid someone actually try to crabwalk through the entire stage
that's just trolling
crab walk lacerate knife punch only
I do the crouch dodge to get some distance if a horde is nearby and I'm close enough
midget boxing simulator
But I cant do that for longer than a couple seconds lol
punch their knees out
THE OLE DICK TWIST
no no make them do it
it's funnier that way
let me watch TF2 Spycrabs be reborn
they're an extinct species after TF2 bots destroyed that game
but
would be funny if enemies went non hostile and treated you as stealth if you started crabwalking just for a day
God that would be such an annoying penance if they made it one. "Complete a full mission on Heresy threat or higher while being crouched for 90% of it"
on april fools or something
go infiltrate
easy penance
I'd have it done so fast
watch me running an Auric crabwalking in stealth like I'm playing Skyrim
Random Heretic "Must have been the wind"
Add a bow to veteran 🗣️ 🗣️
getting knocked off a cliff due to a barrel
fade to black
waking up, "Hey you're finally awake"
I want them to add useable emotes during matches
not just voice lines like "I need ammo!"
let me do an actual dance in game after the entire squad wipes and they're forced into spectator mode on a lone clown
harlequins are heresy
we're rejects, we're not good enough to pretend to be Harlequins
2 Harlequins put down an unknown number of Custodes and breached the imperial palace making it so far as the throne room close enough to psychically reach out to the Emperor
we're not THAT good
those are top tier clowns
it actually is stupid
tha tall the emotes we get are lobby only
kinda makes them feel rather meaningless tbh
Harlequins also probably vary wildly in skill
it really is stupid that the emotes are lobby only yeah
they need to enable them for use in active matches
Thumbs up BM
Those were probably like... great skilled warriors empowered by their god, in actuality. That wouldn't be visible from the outside, though

i ignore lore bc we can get vored by a beast of nurgle and still solo it with a prison shank
Its just so weird
definitely and like from what I read most Harlequins are either on par with or a bit better than your average Custodes but a named character gets plot armour so named Harlequins will trash unnamed Custodes every time, just like named Custodes would trash unnamed Harlequins
Stormtrooper syndrome
There's not enough buttons to add another emote wheel
if you wear a helmet and have no name you are there to die
On the controller, I guess probably idk
just stop caring about controller players
leave them behind
if they don't have enough buttons just let them live without
give mouse and keyboard useable emotes
we've got the buttons
If they had emotes during matches, now they can sell dances
imagine if we had useable emotes in matches
Vet dies
three Zealots all go next to the body and kneel to pray
you could have such goofy interactions
The biggest cosmetic Ls they had imo were:
- Not releasing Helbore Lasgun skins when Krieg armors released
- Not adding an imperial aquila salute as an unlockable emote/pose in penance update
those are pretty big Ls
are there even Helbore skins
there are too many Ls to list when it comes to cosmetics
No
Yea, rotating shop is big L
and im not talking about "muh microtransactions" i dont really care about that that much tbh, im a gachage player
so im used to that stuff
but
man
SoB skins?
that would sell like literal hotcakes
for zealots
the only ones I even have are Fire Wastes, Crucis Nightshade and Chemzone Sludge
Although tbh
I’m prob never buying another veteran armor cosmetic since I already got my scion look
instead we get "same skin but slightly redder cape :^)"
and the gun skins are a mess too tbh
weapon customization would be a moneymaker for them if they sold weapons and you could mix and match parts on them
this stuff isnt even genius ideas on my part
its literally just what gacha games do in the first place
except replace "cute girls" with "guns" and "pretty dresses" with "weapon parts"
Replace stripped down with stripped down
Hopefully they are taking notes for their next game though
Their next game is maybe 3-5 years away
And that’s if they’re being fast
Majority are working on DT, smaller team on VT2
that's fair
I've got all the iconic looks I've wanted since I started the game
This is peak veteran to me
Elysian, Catachan, Steel Legion, Krieg, Cadian, Commissar, Salvar Chem Dogs and even a funny Rogue Trader outfit
I don't even know if there are any cosmetic looks I'd even want at this point
I want a powdered wig outfit
If they’re ever gonna do cosmetic DLC packs on steam
I want new voice packs for existing archetypes
i just want more gun options
even with the limited stuff we have
i spent a lot of time tinkering with my weapons in the mod just to come out with something that looks cool to me
too bad nobody else can see my anti-materiel bolter sniper
Scintillian Fusiliers maybe?

It is a really good look too
I have to rotate between appearances
I love Elysian and Moebian Recon looks too much
I have 2 other fits I enjoy
Congrats!
I don't have it yet
😩
just a few hundred away
maybe soon if I can find time this week to play
dont worry
you have another year until they add the update with the proper helmets anyway
with how busy irl is going I might need another 2-3 months before I'll be able to squeeze in the time to play Darktide and work on enough penances to get the last points for it anyway
Veteran chat, I bring you art
really annoys me tbh since the helmets are like hte most iconic part of the 6th's look
My top 3 fits
NICE
the figures look so cool but they seem like a lot of time, money and effort
It took me three hours just to paint one 😅
Very solid looks
these are my 3 favs
but I'm boring so it's not really any mixing and matching LOL
as well as Nomad title, for Hourglass maps
Already got them
I'm at 4600+ penance score now
also, my penances are bugged
Does it tell u that u have smth to claim in Morningstar when u don’t have anything to claim
Yup
Same here
ever since you reached 4600 right?
We showing off fits?
Probably FS has code to trigger a reward every 100 points but they forgot to cap it when there arent rewards left
one second im literally logging on tide right now
The 3 I mainly use though I tend to use more, Loyalist full set will most likely be used once I get to 4500
That's a very nice camo Steel Legion look!
I don't think I have that set so there's at least one set in the game I'll still buy LOL
The Cadian one is literally a Combo of the bought Cadian set, Penance Reward, and Buyable Helm lmao
Iirc not really no
most they'd have is their own battle cries
etc
Kinda like SM Legions
Idk abt songs but Cadian has smth like “glory to the first man to die” or smth
I mean like
I looked up Mechanicus music because they're my fav faction and
they have this really cool song
Mechanicus 2 soon btw
Warhammer 40k feels like the kind of universe to have battle songs
battle hymns
etc.
it looks REALLY cool but tbh I never even played the first one
I should though
From what I've seen if you've played Xcom
still going through Rogue Trader though
you'll enjoy it
I have not played Xcom but I think Rogue Trader is similar
Kind of?
and I've really enjoyed Rogue Trader
It'll be easier to get into but its kinda its own formula
lot's of strategic placement
Also I'd love to make an SL Commissar sometime but like they'd have to make a Flak Helm with the Commissar Hat
doubt it'll happen
But I'd very much enjoy it
thats what mods are for
For the Drip https://github.com/Adspartan/For_the_Drip
https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1163114688540848169
Danke
i thought it'd work with the psyker mask since there's no helmet but 
the little gas mask hose connects into your hat LOL
Yeah but that's normal
talking to yourself in your own head is just thinking
it's only thinking out loud that makes you look CRAZY
that's just what they want you to think
tfw corruption damage is calculated before health damage
I prefer black, but the elysium helmet looks great with this flak armor
infiltrate + vraks 7 goes insanely hard once you get positioning down
or, at least it feels good
Do you take the 90% aggro drop?
of course
thats what makes it work
pop invis, reposition, start firing and gun down every elite/special, or at least as many as i can before the 90% threat drop goes away
bonus if a frag or two is dropped as you run away to cover the team
@alexspeckman its happen to me ALOT
Full toughness suddenly dead meat
Honestly huge thanks for the link, was able to throw together a cool SL fit
ngl the menu was... confusing
but I got it down
what is it currently
and what key do you tend to rest your fingers against
I usually have movement related ones the closest to where my fingers rest
space
join the f6 gang
i used alt
jump every time you talk 
xD
Pre-bricked for my convenience
F
big rip
It impressive how bad this roll is
I guess I'd keep No Respite, swap Sustained Fire to Surgical IV and change Ranged Weak Spot Damage to Carapace
but if you decide to swap both blessings to Surgical IV/Weight of Fire IV that's fair too
CRAFTING UPDATE WILL SAVE IT 2026
or yeah maybe crafting update LOL
Cope
The one time you can attempt to bank on fatshark making a good decision.
The one and only time so far sadly
On another note, how exactly would I build a shotgun if I wanted to go full trench raider mode?
Never attempted to run a shotgun, ever. If I had a bad ranged weapon I'd just buy a zarona revolver and run that until I got a better weapon or got to level 30 to buy new weapons.
Are you level 30?
No, running a profane zarona revolver right now. Level 28.
I wouldn't recommend shotguns at all since even when fully built they're pretty mediocre
BUUUUT
If you have to get a shotgun then
Any info on new weapons in update?
As with all weapons, there is a specific niche to fill. Shotguns are no different.
Agripinaa Mk 7 is (possibly) the best shotugn choice
Even I have to bend my knee and confess that the Helbores are useful even though I don't like them.
helbores aren't that useful
they work fine but a plasmagun does the same thing better
shotguns are also sadly in that spot
Anyway the apgripinaa mk 7 is arguably the best shotgun
Lowest damage, fastest firerate
Surgical and Shock Trooper paired together make your ammo economy very good.
But yes, continue.
You obviously want as much damage stat as possible
mobility and stability are stats that don't matter
Which one is the opposite? Max damage, lowest fire rate?
the kantrael I think?
Mhmm, perks and blessings?
I remember seeing someone with like, incendiary rounds?
Seems interesting.
For blessings you want
Fullbore
No respite Or deathspitter
For perks
Just go for the usual Maniac and flak damage
The goal being to be able to 1 tap elites in the head
Special loads a slug that does average damage to carapace
Kantrael has incendiary rounds but honestly it's a bit of a meme
Is the slug at the top of the mag or will I have to do some crazy ammo counting junk?
makes your next shot the slug
so basically if you see a crusher just load a slug, shoot him in the head
do that like 5 times
Does that persist with weapon swap?
uuuh
Like if I pull out my shovel will that first shot be a slug?
The agri is pretty much a pretend sniper rifle
Even the normal.shots have tight enough spread to 1 tap gunners at around 15m
Slugs are perfectly accurate at infinite distance
Plus they make a funny sound
One message removed from a suspended account.
It's mostly a meme for Lawbringer but like
you can do some funny things with it
Agripina Shotgun with Weapon Specialist giving 100% crit chance with Manstopper blessing increased cleave
sometimes heads will just line up and you can do this in matches
if you put Manstopper on a Lawbringer shotgun with Scattershot you don't even need Weapon Specialist
it'll just delete poxwalker hordes
I heard manstopper + flech can be pretty funny but I've never bothered testing it out
You'll need high crit though
Scattershot*
But not really, scattershot + manstopper is still better
It’s funny but not that good in practice
Just go manstopper + scattershot
Flechette is a meme and not a very effective meme at that
Flech + Scatter on Kantrael?
Cause trust me I do want to make a joke one
but I'll make the other probably for effectiveness
Also did some more fine tuning on the outfit, satisfied with it now
Not worth
fuck
hadron brick my near perfect revolver
reeeeeeeeeeee
crucian roulet is much better than shit shooter
but eh
beggar cant be chooser smh smh
So im gonna be making a build to smash out some penances, im fine with infiltrate but wtf do smoke nades actually do so i can best make use of them?
❤️
Amazing.
Alright taking note to not play pubs at this time of night
4 wipes in a row and like level 15s on Damnation
Auric also
Throw em at gunners so they stop shooting and have to move out of it.
Sussy
Scattershot is its special?
what is a good primary in combination with the columnus mkV?
I would assume something to take out crushers or the like?
I just take a power sword 6 with it personally
But yeah, any anticrusher and antihorde would be good, or you can take krak for anticrusher
Shovel 7 probably works fine too, chainaxe maybe
Shovel whats blessing others than decimator should i pair with?
Shovel 7 wants uncanny and Thrust iirc
Knife turns me into a junky
adhd junky
only thing i dislike is how almost everyone runs it now
Hi everyone, I have a question, I'm doing the Every shot count penance and I'm using the Agripinaa revolver, but I was wondering, if I use the shotgun, does every little bullet of one buckshot count for the accuracy ? or if only one hits for example, it won't count as a missed shot for the others ?
Pellets probably don't count
So as long as I have the hitmarker, even if it's only for one pellet, it's good ?
Just want to be sure lol
Every pellet counts as a shot.
Oh ok, ty !
I do start likingk nife
Shotguns, particularly the Kantrael have really high suppression and stagger so they're great for charging in at dudes or preventing gunners from doing anything
Or a quick flick at a Reaper to make him flinch
Very hard for me to enjoy any other melee weapon for Vet than knife with how sluggish the other options are.
Well, vets, Every shot count is now done ! The Zarona revolver was the way, not Agripinaa
Chainsword 4 feels great imo
good mobility
only thing is you horde clear on heavies
which might still feel slow for you
but the heavies kill the horde so fucking fast
I still mainly use either Power Sword or Shovel.
What should be ideal perks/blessings for Kantrael MG Ia Infantry Lasgun
I would ask the numbers cat
What's that
@tall torrent that guy
Oh actually his guide is in the pins
It has the information too
brautos ftw
Flak/Maniac are hard to go wrong with for the standard lasguns. for blessings headhunter is the big one, they really lean nicely into getting good value out of it.
after that either deadly accurate for more damage or ghost for greater damage mitigation depending on your needs/preference.
all three are good solid guns though with the MG Ia probably being the sweet spot
big trick is disciplining yourself to slow down and aim the shots as they'll shoot pretty damn quickly and it's very tempting to spam the trigger ^^
for the weaponswap fast paced vet playstyle i prefer the other chainsword, that has hordeclearing lights and high dmg heavies, idk just feels better to pair with that setup
Does the 13g have good single target with the heavies? I heard its single target sucks lol
I find I can either light spam for ragers and below, or revved heavy anything bigger, with a 4
And if it's a crusher I just use my gun or krak
What would you say the best bleedin build
Shredder frag grenades
Other sources of bleed are marginal for veteran
Well maybe bloodletting chainsword but it's just to enable faster crusher kills
Can someone recommend a Build around Vraks MK7 HH AG
you dont want mine
Ok
That rifle just plays like a clumsy revolver to me at the moment. A revolver you need much more investment in to make it work.
I see
HH ags are bad but funny
you get more bullets than you get with a revolver
only upside
actually sounds fun
What weapons?
hh mk7
also you gotta get grenade regen
Its good enough damage with maniac on it. Crushers i always rip attack anyways, I just think the faster horde hits help my playstyle
its garbage. you have 0 melee
i actually start liking smoke grenades
Just throw them at every cluster of shooters
Saves lots of trouble, especially during hordes
me too but you can't do this build if you're taking the game seriously
and snipers
Drop them on yourself too
you cant spend most of the game shooting, especially a gun with this little boss dmg
It's a throwable psyker bubble
Smoke grenades are amazing for events like the middle of chasm station imo
that's where youre in the ruined rail line?
or wait
Chasm terminus assassination mission
thats uh
You drop into a pit with an auspex hack objective in the middle
ah yeah
And enemies swarm from all sides and from a balcony
long time since ive done assassination
Rough mid event due to lack of shelter
since i only play quickplay
Smoke grenades create shelter
I am allergic to quickplay
Because I fucking hate lights out modifiers
Me with Vent Purge
it doesnt
but you also cant tag shooters
unless you have a exe stance friend with a spare talent point
I find it odd that Lights Out is now only on Auric/Maelstrom missions, when Vent Purge is basically just as limiting in your visibility
I want a reason to use the flashlight dammit
I think there's accessibility concerns there too tbh
Vent purge doesn't bother me
but lights out has me squinting at my screen
The 4th DH hiding in the darkness 
I love this mid event honestly
Both the assassinations are my fav missions though
it's antax. yes
It's one of the blessings that make it funny
Lawbringer Shotgun special action loads a unique shell with a horizontal spread pattern
Using it with these blessings can wipe hordes
You need unarmored/headtaker/brutal momentum at the very least, depending on how much melee juice you take in the tree
You need flak if you aren't taking any melee juice (or not enough for your roll)
This is due to caxes being extremely reliant on brutal for their clearing power, and needing to hit one taps on both bruiser types
Clear speed on bruisers drops to like 1/8 of what it could be if you need 2 hits to kill a bruiser
Not an exaggeration
caxes seem like ez weapons to operate and fit perfectly for newbies until you realize that they struggle super bad on lower levels and need all the help they can get to get good
either way, achlys<antax<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<rashad
never play not rashad
By the way, this is assuming that you reach the breakpoints from the get go, without any HT stacks?
Rashad has 4 essential priority stats, Antax only has 3
Not sure if you can hit it without any headtaker stacks
at least on vet
I'm gonna guess that if it is possible, it's either restricted to the rashad or harder to achieve for the antax
I’m genuinely curious because I rarely if ever use Combat axes due to how strong they are with BM
Too bad it’s SS instead of Wrath, but it’s a decent result
so if I got wrath on it
Wrath is mandatory on the 13g
Then you want either shred or rampage for the second blessing
noted
You'd need at least 15% melee damage and precision strikes on a max stat rashad with 25% flak and unarmored to get both bruiser types without any headtaker stacks.

Fatshark giving enemies a +10% hp boost just to brick the rashad 🙏

20% unarmored will just barely not kill the scab bruiser
but 20% flak will get the dreg bruiser
hey, what's the easiest way to kill a bulwark w/ a mk6 knife?
backstabs, at least on uncanny/executor, dont seem to do much
Iirc you can stab the head if you aim high enough
yes, its just generally a pain what with the shield there lmao
was wondering if there was a better way
Ah ok yeah not sure, at least you have more wiggle room with the shield
Can get around them and push attack from the back, they also drop their shield when attacking
oh right the push attack exists
Is the 13g chainsword decent on single targets?
I like the 4 for the versatility but I didn't realise the 13g had a single target heavy
I thought it was an all-cleave weapon
It's light spam for horde clear
Rev/heavy for single hard targets
Of course you can just rev light if you really want to
Is it just better than the 4?
It's easier than the 4, but not explicitly better
4 can get better clear if you do heavy spam/do the combo
The 4 feels like it has busted horde clear already
But the 13g is simple and easy
Oh shit so 4 is the better horde clearer?
If you want to put in the effort
OK, that makes sense now
It's also not that far behind the 13g if you build it for light spam
But the 13g has better lights for horde control
4 isn't much effort tbf, heavy spam works almost as well as the HHLH combo
And the revved heavy kills anything that isn't an ogryn already
Or a mauler I guess
And light spam is good for singles too, but shit boss damage
Has been my experience with it
That's true, however I only play light spam melee weapons because I am lazy 
My girlfriend might like the 13g though, think it fits her logic better
I like the 15 eviscerator a lot more than the 2
The typical light horde, heavy ST paradigm is good when it's good
But the chainsword 4 feels like horde clearing with a heavy sword 9 already
I'll suggest the 13g to her once she gets up to the level where it unlocks
Silly fatshark giving you the technical version of weapons before the easy ones
And BM-less combat axes
I've been trying to get my wife into this game
She really likes melee hack n slash
She kinda watches me mulch stuff with pc4 mk6 ps lol
Warhammer is just "nerd stuff" though 
My girlfriend liked resident evil already
That happened for me for vermintide, got drawed in it despite I know veeeeery little of the Warhammer world (and even less in the futurist version which I took to change from vermintide) 😂 it's gloomier and creepier by far but well, that's a change
So I got her into left 4 dead
And that's transitioned into darktide
She likes ogryn lol
Just started ogryn now
Uh zealot even
One of my situationaships, I'm getting her into 40k.
Ogryns do sound like the nicest characters of the team but perhaps it's just because they're dull and don't realize lol
She nerds out about her horse girl games, I nerd out about 40k
She now knows more about 40k then she ever wanted to and finds it fascinating
Soon they'll be deep in their pockets chasing figures to assemble and paint
Even the Bully seems like a good guy really
mfw i stealth directly into the overhead a crusher is doing on the downed psyker
You know, actual fascists taking it too literally/ideally
Since we are talking about it, antax with 2 power blessings and a high cleave stat. Does this work out good?
didnt GW have to drop a letter telling people "no, being intolerant is bad actually"
I've a brother doing this and this seems a very very expensive hobby if I judge by the birthday gifts budget about this
As they said long ago,
Nazi Punks Fuck Off
I relate to me sliding behind a flamethrower into a corner where he kicked me repeatedly like an unleashed hooligan
Nazi punks? That doesn't seem to go together.
Ohhhhh punks as an insult not a type of person.
Yes and for the longest time I felt uncomfortable about Krieg with the Nazi association until I read a breakdown showing that Krieg designs are more influenced by WW1 aesthetic that most closely resembles French WW1 military attire (though it can kinda fit a lot of various WW1 looks) so it's not an intentional design choice, just a weird myth that they're related to Nazis
After learning that I started enjoying the Krieg look more
Nazis ruining stylish clothing
It's a song
Nazis ruining all manner of cool symbolism with thousand of years of history
Because nazis were trying to fit in with the skinhead and punk movement
I think it's by the dead kennedys
Ohh yep, makes sense. Punks want none of that nazi shit.
It's a very common joke that cocaine is cheaper
And probably only slightly less addictive
Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
Nazi punks
Nazi punks
Nazi punks-Fuck Off!
If you've come to fight, get outa here
You ain't no better than the bouncers
We ain't trying t...
it’s LITERALLY just the name
that’s the only German bit
I let his friends handling the spending of the budget for the things to buy (I'm clueless) but I believe the comparison is accurate 😂
A friend is buying his sister Warhammer 40k figures later today for her birthday and said it was probably going to be the most expensive gift he has ever bought for her LOL
Well I hope she's fond of it and it's not a try to get her into it buut that's not my business
It's unfortunate that a lot of people associate German = Nazi. German people are wonderful and they deal with Nazi nonsense better than most of the world at this point
I've got a friend who moved to Florida from Germany and their accent is SO COOL plus I love hearing them speak in German
What. The. Heck. Several thousand dollars one monster?
Are they special editions, limited in number or something
She likes Tabletop too don't worry
The people who think that tbh are the kinds of people who think the worst thing the nazis did was be german
I have been around those people before
They suck
I wish we shut people down about holocaust denial like Germany.
The same people scared of anyone of Asian descent during covid. There are people who don't think and just want a target, and want to feel righteous hunting that target
I'm actually surprised the Warlord titan is not the most expensive
About holocaust denial in all forms too. Including people denying that queers were targeted too.
And loses to the manta by a good 300
JK fucking Rowling.
My little experience of the German youth (I've spent 9 months in Germany during my studies) is they're mostly quite "liberated", I mean they tend doing what they want and not care much about norms compared to me at the same age (I'm French), and are indeed very touchy on the subject even from a historical perspective. But that's very understandable and overall, like always, lovely folks
I remember reading that making a proper Imperial Guard army with enough points to field for a tabletop fight is one of the most expensive things. Mechanicus are apparently THE most expensive to make a functioning army for tabletop though
Sadly those are two of my fav factions so I will never fall into this trap LOL
Never say never
I spend too much on video game cosmetics as is
Oh my brother wants an imperial guard army I've heard that a lot (especially the ones that look like fighting in Vietnam jungle), unlucky me 😂
One day somebody will get you the beginnings of a mechanicus army
And then, well
You're only adding to it.
One more model here
For the cost of half a usable Mechanicus tabletop army I could pay a cosplay artist team to make me a full Skitarii cosplay to wear instead
One more there
I would love to get a full cosplay and lurk
I could probably be sneaky in a Skitarii cosplay too...
You remind me of that tech adept in the Ciaphas Cain novels
Felicia, I think her name was
As funny as this sounds I am actually really bad with tech and most of my friend group is upset that I bought a new computer 2 years ago, the fans were not plugged in, and so I bought a desk fan and just turn it on and point it at the computer LMFAO
best thing about the Caiphus Cain books is of course that the audio books confirm that the Valhallans aren't russian or slavic...
they're Welsh :>
Been there
Clowntek
I have the fans plugged in and use extra desk fans anyway!
I've got two friends in cybersecurity, one in IT and one in web design. They are all frustrated with how dumb I am with computers and I literally attended ITT Tech so I know a little bit but I have never assembled my own computer by hand so touching computer components scares me
I don't want to break my computer doing something stupid LOL
This causes me actual physical pain
I could hurt you in worse ways with the things I've sent them
This isn't even the most awful computer sin I have saved
Easy way to deal with this Krag
-takes Sneaky's recons lasguns-
They're a cat. Take away the shiny laser pointer. Use the spray bottle
you can have it if you can pry it from my cold clown hands assuming you can catch me

Cute cat. Yours?
legally. she probably disagrees tho
This is actually totally fine if the laptop/computer is not powered and remains unpowered until dry
Like, completely dry
Are we sharing cats??
This is Oin and she has a funny name because she was a funny cat
My brother brought home a cat one day and refused to get them fixed. Oin is descended from that original cat. We wanted to get them all fixed, get their shots and find them new homes so the rule was no naming any of them. But she kept climbing on furniture, my curtains and even me so to stop her from shredding everything by playing Shadow of the Catlossus I would say "Oi" very loudly. She would look over, stop and climb down
Then she thought it was her name anytime anyone would say it
So I had to keep her but the name felt weird so I added the "n" at the end to make her name sound at least like it belonged in a fantasy book or something
is sharing dogs allowed? 😂
It is pet day
And that is a very cute dog
Do they have Bernese Mountain dog in their mix??
They look like one

Those eyes are begging for scratches
Veteran Good boi (he's 12, despite appearances)
If y'all keep posting pets, I'll post my 8 legged ones
I saw on the launcher that kriegs skins are coming back... WHEN ?!! Does anybody know for the love of the Emperor ?
They're here now
literally punks. it is a feature of the neo-nazi movement to take over left progressive movements. they succeeded in doing it to skinheads and have had a foot in the door of the punk movement for many, many years now (a big point of this is the problematic topic of lace code)
had no clue this was a dead kennedys song but i might warm up to the band now that i do know
Really I can't see them in the emporium !
yes, big man
That's it ! I'm uninstalling the game !
I'm not gonna lie, they were here for, what, two weeks?
And I'm guessing their not gonna be back before an eternity and a half !
Well I'm off that game ! I'm done ! Have a nice one for the impirium
That's a big ouch wow
Ooo I didn't know about that breed. The fur patterns are so similar!
I had a bernese mountain dog when I was in middle school and he was HUGE and fluffy
I love dog chat 😍
Yeahh when I was a kid we had one mixed with husky (which ended up being like a small bernese) and indeed miniature Australian is quite close in colors


