#veteran-class

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bitter turtle
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  • 20% ogrynd mg on the tree
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and it does that

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the rest of the tree depends on the gun and whatever else you want

ocean idol
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Does flesh tearer help a lot against horde?

bitter turtle
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not really

tall torrent
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It’s 30% spread reduction not sprinting, 20% spread reduction when sprinting

bitter turtle
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despite what some might say

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it honestly

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is just

tall torrent
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The close Dmg bonus is only applied when sprinting

bitter turtle
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ok?

ocean idol
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So 16 bleed stacks kill elites really quickly?

bitter turtle
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more like 8

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cus if you crit twice

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almost everything is gonna be dead

tall torrent
bitter turtle
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but yes it fills in some breakpoints

ocean idol
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also what you think about heavy laspistol vs normal laspistol

bitter turtle
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most ppl (including me) prefer mk2 (normal fast one)

tall torrent
tall torrent
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Mk2 is one of the best weapons u can use
Mk10 is a complete meme

bitter turtle
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well

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i wouldnt go that far

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i used it sometimes

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but yea i dont really see a benefit over mk2

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laspistol is a spam gun

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spamming less for slightly higher dmg per shot is not a worthwhile tradeoff

ocean idol
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agree

ocean idol
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it feels off

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do you people use smoke grenades

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feels too situational

bitter turtle
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i do

tame lodge
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I do, more than I should

bitter turtle
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frags are better but smokes allows easy access to 10% melee dmg + agile engagement

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so i often take em anyway

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i like them more than krak grenades

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at least

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so its a decent compromise in my eyes

ocean idol
bitter turtle
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fwiw

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they are pretty good vs specialists

ocean idol
bitter turtle
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you can take a look, i recorded how it affects them

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though they do not do anything vs mutant/bombers sadly

ocean idol
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oooh, that's nice to know

bitter turtle
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do u actually need duck and dive for anything

ocean idol
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So it does not affect mutants?

bitter turtle
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not like you're playing deadshot so

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nop

ocean idol
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and trappers

bitter turtle
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trappers are affected

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their range is shortened

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they just dont become stupid like dogs/flamers

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but they have to run in closer at least

vast edge
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Better off with either of the grenades.

ocean idol
wise fossil
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I wish the grenade choice was more freeing in the tree. Like it is above the nades where all three branches come together

ocean idol
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could actually take deadshot instead lol

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Goes well with laspistol

wise fossil
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I want frags Ez to get with right path and smokes Ez to get with left path

bitter turtle
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maybe you dont need it

ocean idol
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and with fleshtearer could remove serrated blade

bitter turtle
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if you didnt already pick it up

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and ya

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if you are not going mercy killer

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dont bother picking up serrated blade

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1 bleed stack is worthless

tall torrent
ocean idol
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ok, deadshot instead of it then

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i did start liking bleeding and poison in all games lately for some reason

bitter turtle
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do the yeehaw cowboy build

bitter turtle
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sprint hipfire everywhere

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yes i know that's a zarona in the clip

bitter turtle
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if so, i suggest taking shocktrooper before anything else, esp since we're not pathing through survivalist

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fwiw

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if you are playing laspistol

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this is my tree

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i actually go infiltrate instead but htat is just because i like infiltrate

tall torrent
bitter turtle
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oh for sure

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just

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he didnt have iron will

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so i was just 🤔

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i mean maybe he's just ultra pro idk

ocean idol
bitter turtle
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its nice and all but the build is already stretched thin on pts as is

ocean idol
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also i definitely not use melee specialist enough with knife

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i use it a plenty with plasma

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but forget about it when running knife

bitter turtle
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keep in mind

ocean idol
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because i become SPEED

bitter turtle
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the laspis build im running doesnt get to take the 20% ogryn dmg

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cus like i said

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already stretched thin on pts

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so it comes slightly short on the le funny 2 tap on crusher

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gotta throw in an extra light

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i can afford to take it on guns that are less picky about what nodes they want on tree though

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like v3 + knife

ocean idol
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I don't care much about ogryn damage

bitter turtle
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well that works, js, that's why i skip some things

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cause ive already dropped everything i could concievably drop

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and no dropping invograted (the subnode under wep specialist )is not an option either

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its rly important imo

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since it means any time you swap to knife you're guaranteed enough stam to push atk twice

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which heavy + 2 push atks should always be enough dmg to delete almost any enemy

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also means you'll never accidentally fuck up and not have enough stam to make use of agile engagement for your knife combos

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which will enable the better bps on ogryns like the crusher 2tap even without the ogryn dmg node btw

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just conditional on the swap is all

tall torrent
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I think I’m gonna go back to Rashad KEKW_ogryn

ocean idol
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So how do i use mk6 against elites

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Heavy - push attack push attack?

ocean idol
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tpyed before seeing this

tall torrent
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Beware that both maulers & crushers have a fast sweeping attack which knife can’t stagger them out of
You need to dodge out of their range (which is a bit further than knife’s attack range)

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This means in practice, a lot of the times you don’t have as crazy ttk vs crushers & maulers as in theory

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Unless they’re not targeting u, then you can go for a pretty fast 3 hit kill

ocean idol
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Ok, laspistol + knife is pretty good

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Although i am not convinced on bleeding

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only 40k damage

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Also i had smoke grenades

tall torrent
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It’s not that high in Dmg in practice

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It’s mainly to meet some niche breakpoints

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And to drastically cut down clear time vs smaller isolated groups of enemies

ocean idol
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i need 1 heavy and 4 push attacks to kill a crusher

tall torrent
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At max uncanny stacks u should only need 3 weakspot hits

bitter turtle
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cause most of these videos are with max uncanny

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unstacked it should take you 4 hits without crits

tall torrent
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My highest record was 3480 (not recorded)
2nd highest was 3402

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On avg in most games you get 3080~3150 if u time it well

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After 3150 it’s just chasing small frame differences

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Well, 3600 if u 2 crit kill

bitter turtle
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i think only precog can do that

tall torrent
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Executor can

bitter turtle
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flesh tearer dps number will be lower since dots

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oh right

tall torrent
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Just needs max stacks

bitter turtle
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executor should too yeah

tall torrent
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I’d much rather play executor over precog

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Precog only exists for precog + duellist funny on zealot where u rely >50% of ur Dmg on a conditional dodge activation

bitter turtle
ocean idol
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base damage gets multipleid by everything, right?

bitter turtle
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but even from 0 uncanny

ocean idol
bitter turtle
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you should be able to 3 tap with acrit, 4tap without

tall torrent
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It’s not +dmg

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+dmg is different (affects DOT too)

ocean idol
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my crits do 1100 damage

bitter turtle
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🤔

ocean idol
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actually 1100 is the high one

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sometimes below 1000

tall torrent
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As long as u can reliably 3 hit with max uncanny

ocean idol
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Do you hav ce carapace perk?

tall torrent
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It’s fine

ocean idol
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5 without

bitter turtle
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this is w/o 20% ogryn

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so im not sure what you're doing different

ocean idol
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Ah, yes, this is exactly what i am getitngg

bitter turtle
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wait

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i thought you said ur getting sub 1k crits

ocean idol
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Sometimes

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932

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932

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553 staregryn

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probably body hit though

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713

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738

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1043

bitter turtle
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even a completely naked no uncanny raw crit from me does 1.1k

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without ogryn talent

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so

ocean idol
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may be my knife is bad?

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or may be i am bad

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literal skissue

bitter turtle
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infested

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i think thats ur problem

ocean idol
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I asked if you use carapacep erk

bitter turtle
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i thought i linked my knife

ocean idol
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And i initally test weapons without perks fine tuning

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I forgor

bitter turtle
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yea i use cara/elite

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i think flak/cara might also be worth trying? havent treied it myself though

bitter turtle
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did you know that punches can proc lacerate but not flesh tearer

agile forge
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My knife is Flak elite but it's the 3 on a zealot

bitter turtle
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lacerate finally meta for boxing build

agile forge
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Nice to reliably oneshot gunners

ocean idol
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What is the best gun for general use?

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not specialised

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no, revolver very much specialised

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Not enough ammo for horde clear

wanton dawn
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Why would you horde clear with vet ranged weapon though

tame lodge
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If you want ammo and hordes to shoot

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Brauto Graia IV

wanton dawn
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I mean, if you want to do that you can also take the agri brauto which cleave horde whatthefuck_heresy

tame lodge
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Fair, but Graia goes brrrrrr

slow spade
faint beacon
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Recon with Infil

tall torrent
ocean idol
tall torrent
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Srsly tho like Azrael said, revolver is very general purpose

slow spade
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Revolver with handcannon

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I see the randoms in lobby. Please use crit blessings + handcannon

faint beacon
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Revolver getting nerfed and it’s still fucking good as the general purpose weapon of choice lmao

uncut pebble
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Shred and savage sweep for a chainsword?

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Sour milk is selling one that has both at t3 and it has decent stats.

uncut pebble
agile forge
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But they are way less scary than they used to be

midnight totem
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If revolver removed the insane cleave, it'd be fine

slow spade
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Revolver should get assail tracking

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I want to see the revolver shot 180 headshot people

tame lodge
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Wanted

trim steppe
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The revolver projectile size is crazy

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That thing shoots bowling balls at mach speed

thorn lark
uncut pebble
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Chainaxe, based or cringe?

thorn lark
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based

uncut pebble
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Pulled one with rampage and thrust both at 3 with decent stats.

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Scuse me, not rampage, headtaker.

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Brain is scrambled eggs.

thorn lark
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12?

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you really want the highest tier of thrust. It's 15% more power

uncut pebble
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What do you mean, 12?

thorn lark
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there's 2 variants

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orestes 4 and 12

uncut pebble
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Oh model number.

thorn lark
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you want thrust on the 12

agile forge
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The 4 clears with heavies and singles with lights iirc

uncut pebble
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Pulled a 4.

agile forge
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The 12 is the opposite or something

uncut pebble
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Alright, yeah, I see what you mean now.

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Mk4 is bad.

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Guess its getting sacrificed to Hadron for headtaker.

agile forge
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Is it bad?

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Not sure about that either way, but it's probably more awkward at least

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The newer chain weapons are all much simpler but I prefer the old assault chainsword 4 to the new 13g

uncut pebble
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It does like a pseudo rev attack on the lights.

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Much like an eviscerator mk15 heavy.

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The mk12, on the other hand, does normal lights and the pseudo rev on the heavies.

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All in all, it's moveset that makes me decide what is and isn't good, and the mk4 moveset is very hard to use, I imagine, to pick out a specific target in a horde.

pseudo fiber
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Cop or nop(e)?

full nacelle
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get rid of falter/groaners and you're good

pseudo fiber
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the stopping power is a touch low but

full nacelle
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69% is all you need

trim steppe
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The stats got me excited but its a big fat brick

north raptor
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yea that feling sucks

tall torrent
frank ocean
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Doing the Marksmans Focus penance, do people use Camoflage so they generate focus while standing, or Long Range Assassin so you have some wiggle room before you drop below 10 stacks?

midnight totem
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camo is most effective

trim steppe
frank ocean
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Wait, melee kills count?

trim steppe
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All kills count while you have 10 stacks. Shredder frag kills count too 👍

frank ocean
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....

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....

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wat

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God dammit that'll make it easier

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lol

trim steppe
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It definitely does lol

frank ocean
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In my defense, why wouldnt the penance that uses a shooting keystone make you use guns

trim steppe
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I thought the same thing at first, since that would make sense.

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When I was doing it, I brought a revolver so every now and then I could fire blindly into a horde at head level and get 6 seconds of movement freedom

normal sparrow
frank ocean
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I've been kind of bouncing around guns switching when I got fed up with them lol, mainly Lawbringer, Zarona and Columnus

frank ocean
frank ocean
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Because god forbid Fatshark allow you to just play alone, even if its with AI that dont scale/level

tall torrent
frank ocean
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Good god is this so much easier being able to melee hordes

tall torrent
sleek garden
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if you want to use it effectively you take a weapon with a reasonably high capacity magazine and remove lots of enemies from the map one at a time

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i use it with stuff like bolters and autoguns and lasguns and executors stance

somber axle
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Lawbringer is fastest and funniest + no crab walk necessary if you go meme build with Manstopper/Scattershot for the Marksman's Focus 10 stack 2500 kill penance

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but crabwalk melee + grenade build is also an option

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ratling sniper gameplay

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just go into game settings, swap crouch to a toggle and then hit it once you're at 10 stacks and never uncrouch

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but good luck keeping up with the team while crabwalking LOL

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you could use knife while crabwalking but then you're awkwardly aiming up at heads for a weird diagonal angle for Uncanny and your horde clear is even worse than a normal knife because the angle is wrong for catching multiple heads consistently

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knife would at least give you very long dodges for side dodging after your team

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probably better to use something like power sword for crab walk memes though

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charge blade and go ham into hordes

bitter turtle
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god forbid someone actually try to crabwalk through the entire stage

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that's just trolling

terse idol
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4 vets

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Crab walk auric maelstrom challenge

bitter turtle
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crab walk lacerate knife punch only

frank ocean
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I do the crouch dodge to get some distance if a horde is nearby and I'm close enough

bitter turtle
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midget boxing simulator

frank ocean
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But I cant do that for longer than a couple seconds lol

bitter turtle
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punch their knees out

last parcel
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THE OLE DICK TWIST

somber axle
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it's funnier that way

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let me watch TF2 Spycrabs be reborn

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they're an extinct species after TF2 bots destroyed that game

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but

bitter turtle
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would be funny if enemies went non hostile and treated you as stealth if you started crabwalking just for a day

frank ocean
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God that would be such an annoying penance if they made it one. "Complete a full mission on Heresy threat or higher while being crouched for 90% of it"

bitter turtle
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on april fools or something

somber axle
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easy penance

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I'd have it done so fast

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watch me running an Auric crabwalking in stealth like I'm playing Skyrim

frank ocean
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Random Heretic "Must have been the wind"

rigid pilot
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Add a bow to veteran 🗣️ 🗣️

midnight totem
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getting knocked off a cliff due to a barrel

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fade to black

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waking up, "Hey you're finally awake"

somber axle
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not just voice lines like "I need ammo!"

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let me do an actual dance in game after the entire squad wipes and they're forced into spectator mode on a lone clown

rigid pilot
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Here's a tissue

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For your pants

somber axle
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can we get an actual clown costume too

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I'll pay money for it

serene bough
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harlequins are heresy

somber axle
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2 Harlequins put down an unknown number of Custodes and breached the imperial palace making it so far as the throne room close enough to psychically reach out to the Emperor

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we're not THAT good

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those are top tier clowns

bitter turtle
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it actually is stupid

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tha tall the emotes we get are lobby only

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kinda makes them feel rather meaningless tbh

drowsy aspen
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Harlequins also probably vary wildly in skill

somber axle
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it really is stupid that the emotes are lobby only yeah

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they need to enable them for use in active matches

rigid pilot
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Thumbs up BM

drowsy aspen
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Those were probably like... great skilled warriors empowered by their god, in actuality. That wouldn't be visible from the outside, though

rigid pilot
serene bough
frank ocean
somber axle
# drowsy aspen Harlequins also probably vary wildly in skill

definitely and like from what I read most Harlequins are either on par with or a bit better than your average Custodes but a named character gets plot armour so named Harlequins will trash unnamed Custodes every time, just like named Custodes would trash unnamed Harlequins

bitter turtle
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jk

somber axle
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Stormtrooper syndrome

rigid pilot
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There's not enough buttons to add another emote wheel

somber axle
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if you wear a helmet and have no name you are there to die

rigid pilot
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On the controller, I guess probably idk

bitter turtle
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oh no

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the fabled ps3 limitations

somber axle
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just stop caring about controller players

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leave them behind

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if they don't have enough buttons just let them live without

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give mouse and keyboard useable emotes

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we've got the buttons

rigid pilot
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If they had emotes during matches, now they can sell dances

somber axle
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imagine if we had useable emotes in matches

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Vet dies

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three Zealots all go next to the body and kneel to pray

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you could have such goofy interactions

rigid pilot
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Do the kneeling pose with the chainsword

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That's the goofiest shit

tall torrent
somber axle
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are there even Helbore skins

bitter turtle
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there are too many Ls to list when it comes to cosmetics

tall torrent
tall torrent
bitter turtle
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and im not talking about "muh microtransactions" i dont really care about that that much tbh, im a gachage player

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so im used to that stuff

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but

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man

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SoB skins?

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that would sell like literal hotcakes

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for zealots

somber axle
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the only ones I even have are Fire Wastes, Crucis Nightshade and Chemzone Sludge

tall torrent
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Although tbh
I’m prob never buying another veteran armor cosmetic since I already got my scion look

somber axle
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but those are just the default skins available to all guns anyway

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nothing unique

bitter turtle
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instead we get "same skin but slightly redder cape :^)"

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and the gun skins are a mess too tbh

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weapon customization would be a moneymaker for them if they sold weapons and you could mix and match parts on them

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this stuff isnt even genius ideas on my part

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its literally just what gacha games do in the first place

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except replace "cute girls" with "guns" and "pretty dresses" with "weapon parts"

rigid pilot
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Replace stripped down with stripped down

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Hopefully they are taking notes for their next game though

bitter turtle
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if vt2 players are to be believed

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no

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they aren't

tall torrent
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And that’s if they’re being fast

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Majority are working on DT, smaller team on VT2

somber axle
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I've got all the iconic looks I've wanted since I started the game

tall torrent
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This is peak veteran to me

somber axle
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Elysian, Catachan, Steel Legion, Krieg, Cadian, Commissar, Salvar Chem Dogs and even a funny Rogue Trader outfit

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I don't even know if there are any cosmetic looks I'd even want at this point

rigid pilot
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I want a powdered wig outfit

tall torrent
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If they’re ever gonna do cosmetic DLC packs on steam

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I want new voice packs for existing archetypes

bitter turtle
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i just want more gun options

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even with the limited stuff we have

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i spent a lot of time tinkering with my weapons in the mod just to come out with something that looks cool to me

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too bad nobody else can see my anti-materiel bolter sniper

somber axle
bitter turtle
somber axle
lime gyro
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power sabres would be cool

somber axle
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I have to rotate between appearances

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I love Elysian and Moebian Recon looks too much

tall torrent
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I have 2 other fits I enjoy

trim steppe
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I've finally done it

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4500 with 5 skulls left to collect hah

somber axle
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Congrats!

lime gyro
somber axle
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I don't have it yet

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😩

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just a few hundred away

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maybe soon if I can find time this week to play

bitter turtle
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dont worry

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you have another year until they add the update with the proper helmets anyway

somber axle
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with how busy irl is going I might need another 2-3 months before I'll be able to squeeze in the time to play Darktide and work on enough penances to get the last points for it anyway

steep nexus
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Veteran chat, I bring you art

bitter turtle
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really annoys me tbh since the helmets are like hte most iconic part of the 6th's look

tall torrent
somber axle
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the figures look so cool but they seem like a lot of time, money and effort

steep nexus
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It took me three hours just to paint one 😅

somber axle
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these are my 3 favs

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but I'm boring so it's not really any mixing and matching LOL

midnight totem
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whew

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100 zealot games done

somber axle
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nice

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one step closer to penance clothes

midnight totem
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as well as Nomad title, for Hourglass maps

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Already got them

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I'm at 4600+ penance score now

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also, my penances are bugged

tall torrent
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Does it tell u that u have smth to claim in Morningstar when u don’t have anything to claim

midnight totem
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Yup

tall torrent
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Same here

midnight totem
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ever since you reached 4600 right?

tall torrent
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Prob

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Idk what caused it

faint beacon
trim steppe
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Probably FS has code to trigger a reward every 100 points but they forgot to cap it when there arent rewards left

somber axle
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Vet drip day

faint beacon
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one second im literally logging on tide right now

midnight totem
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I wish the rogue trader chestpiece wasn't so scuffed

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otherwise I'd use it

faint beacon
somber axle
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That's a very nice camo Steel Legion look!

faint beacon
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love mah Steel Legion

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simple as

somber axle
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I don't think I have that set so there's at least one set in the game I'll still buy LOL

faint beacon
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The Cadian one is literally a Combo of the bought Cadian set, Penance Reward, and Buyable Helm lmao

somber axle
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weird question do the Imperial Guard Regiments have like

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songs

faint beacon
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Iirc not really no

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most they'd have is their own battle cries

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etc

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Kinda like SM Legions

tall torrent
# somber axle songs

Idk abt songs but Cadian has smth like “glory to the first man to die” or smth

somber axle
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I mean like

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I looked up Mechanicus music because they're my fav faction and

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they have this really cool song

faint beacon
somber axle
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Warhammer 40k feels like the kind of universe to have battle songs

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battle hymns

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etc.

somber axle
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I should though

faint beacon
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From what I've seen if you've played Xcom

somber axle
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still going through Rogue Trader though

faint beacon
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you'll enjoy it

somber axle
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I have not played Xcom but I think Rogue Trader is similar

somber axle
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and I've really enjoyed Rogue Trader

faint beacon
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It'll be easier to get into but its kinda its own formula

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lot's of strategic placement

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Also I'd love to make an SL Commissar sometime but like they'd have to make a Flak Helm with the Commissar Hat

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doubt it'll happen

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But I'd very much enjoy it

midnight totem
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thats what mods are for

faint beacon
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TRUE!

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I need to fucking set that up Just- blanking on which mod it was

faint beacon
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Danke

last parcel
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i thought it'd work with the psyker mask since there's no helmet but KEKW_ogryn

somber axle
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the little gas mask hose connects into your hat LOL

last parcel
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so that's what the voices in my head were

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it was me all along

somber axle
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Yeah but that's normal

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talking to yourself in your own head is just thinking

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it's only thinking out loud that makes you look CRAZY

last parcel
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that's just what they want you to think

midnight totem
gilded rock
midnight totem
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I prefer black, but the elysium helmet looks great with this flak armor

atomic zephyr
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infiltrate + vraks 7 goes insanely hard once you get positioning down

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or, at least it feels good

rigid pilot
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Do you take the 90% aggro drop?

atomic zephyr
#

of course

#

thats what makes it work

#

pop invis, reposition, start firing and gun down every elite/special, or at least as many as i can before the 90% threat drop goes away

#

bonus if a frag or two is dropped as you run away to cover the team

sturdy zephyr
#

Full toughness suddenly dead meat

faint beacon
#

ngl the menu was... confusing

#

but I got it down

midnight totem
#

I should really rebind my jump key

#

what should I rebind it to

faint beacon
#

what is it currently

#

and what key do you tend to rest your fingers against

#

I usually have movement related ones the closest to where my fingers rest

midnight totem
#

space

last parcel
#

join the f6 gang

midnight totem
#

prefer f4

#

alt and v are my discord and ingame talk buttons

left crag
last parcel
#

jump every time you talk chadgryn

left crag
#

make that jumping voice

#

"HUP!" "HYUK!"

midnight totem
#

xD

trim steppe
#

Pre-bricked for my convenience

somber axle
#

I'd still try LOL

#

the stats are too crazy good to not

trim steppe
#

Time for drip or brick

tardy vine
#

F

somber axle
#

big rip

tardy vine
#

It impressive how bad this roll is

somber axle
#

I guess I'd keep No Respite, swap Sustained Fire to Surgical IV and change Ranged Weak Spot Damage to Carapace

#

but if you decide to swap both blessings to Surgical IV/Weight of Fire IV that's fair too

trim steppe
#

CRAFTING UPDATE WILL SAVE IT 2026

somber axle
#

or yeah maybe crafting update LOL

tardy vine
#

Cope

uncut pebble
#

The one time you can attempt to bank on fatshark making a good decision.

faint beacon
uncut pebble
#

On another note, how exactly would I build a shotgun if I wanted to go full trench raider mode?

#

Never attempted to run a shotgun, ever. If I had a bad ranged weapon I'd just buy a zarona revolver and run that until I got a better weapon or got to level 30 to buy new weapons.

uncut pebble
#

No, running a profane zarona revolver right now. Level 28.

little path
#

I wouldn't recommend shotguns at all since even when fully built they're pretty mediocre

#

BUUUUT

#

If you have to get a shotgun then

tardy vine
#

Any info on new weapons in update?

uncut pebble
#

As with all weapons, there is a specific niche to fill. Shotguns are no different.

little path
#

Agripinaa Mk 7 is (possibly) the best shotugn choice

uncut pebble
#

Even I have to bend my knee and confess that the Helbores are useful even though I don't like them.

little path
#

helbores aren't that useful

#

they work fine but a plasmagun does the same thing better

#

shotguns are also sadly in that spot

uncut pebble
#

Yeah, they've been powercrept, but they're very ammo efficient.

#

Helbores, I mean.

little path
#

Anyway the apgripinaa mk 7 is arguably the best shotgun

#

Lowest damage, fastest firerate

uncut pebble
#

Surgical and Shock Trooper paired together make your ammo economy very good.

#

But yes, continue.

little path
#

You obviously want as much damage stat as possible

#

mobility and stability are stats that don't matter

uncut pebble
#

Which one is the opposite? Max damage, lowest fire rate?

little path
#

the kantrael I think?

uncut pebble
#

Mhmm, perks and blessings?

#

I remember seeing someone with like, incendiary rounds?

#

Seems interesting.

little path
#

For blessings you want
Fullbore
No respite Or deathspitter

#

For perks
Just go for the usual Maniac and flak damage

#

The goal being to be able to 1 tap elites in the head

#

Special loads a slug that does average damage to carapace

#

Kantrael has incendiary rounds but honestly it's a bit of a meme

uncut pebble
#

Is the slug at the top of the mag or will I have to do some crazy ammo counting junk?

little path
#

makes your next shot the slug

#

so basically if you see a crusher just load a slug, shoot him in the head

#

do that like 5 times

uncut pebble
#

Does that persist with weapon swap?

little path
#

uuuh

uncut pebble
#

Like if I pull out my shovel will that first shot be a slug?

little path
#

Yes

#

Yeah it persists

uncut pebble
#

Neat.

#

Alright, thanks. I appreciate it.

bitter turtle
#

The agri is pretty much a pretend sniper rifle

#

Even the normal.shots have tight enough spread to 1 tap gunners at around 15m

#

Slugs are perfectly accurate at infinite distance

uncut token
#

Plus they make a funny sound

plush hound
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

somber axle
#

It's mostly a meme for Lawbringer but like

#

you can do some funny things with it

#

Agripina Shotgun with Weapon Specialist giving 100% crit chance with Manstopper blessing increased cleave

#

sometimes heads will just line up and you can do this in matches

#

if you put Manstopper on a Lawbringer shotgun with Scattershot you don't even need Weapon Specialist

#

it'll just delete poxwalker hordes

faint beacon
#

I heard manstopper + flech can be pretty funny but I've never bothered testing it out

somber axle
#

OH RIGHT

#

I wanted to test that on Lawbringer but forgot

faint beacon
#

You'll need high crit though

rigid pilot
#

But not really, scattershot + manstopper is still better

tall torrent
#

Just go manstopper + scattershot

#

Flechette is a meme and not a very effective meme at that

faint beacon
#

Flech + Scatter on Kantrael?

#

Cause trust me I do want to make a joke one

#

but I'll make the other probably for effectiveness

#

Also did some more fine tuning on the outfit, satisfied with it now

tall torrent
untold pagoda
#

fuck

#

hadron brick my near perfect revolver

#

reeeeeeeeeeee

#

crucian roulet is much better than shit shooter

#

but eh

#

beggar cant be chooser smh smh

real sorrel
#

So im gonna be making a build to smash out some penances, im fine with infiltrate but wtf do smoke nades actually do so i can best make use of them?

north raptor
oblique totem
faint beacon
#

Alright taking note to not play pubs at this time of night

#

4 wipes in a row and like level 15s on Damnation

#

Auric also

near fog
thin stone
#

Sussy

glad spade
#

what is a good primary in combination with the columnus mkV?

#

I would assume something to take out crushers or the like?

agile forge
#

But yeah, any anticrusher and antihorde would be good, or you can take krak for anticrusher

#

Shovel 7 probably works fine too, chainaxe maybe

sturdy zephyr
#

Shovel whats blessing others than decimator should i pair with?

agile forge
#

Shovel 7 wants uncanny and Thrust iirc

ocean idol
#

Knife turns me into a junky

#

adhd junky

#

only thing i dislike is how almost everyone runs it now

onyx veldt
#

Hi everyone, I have a question, I'm doing the Every shot count penance and I'm using the Agripinaa revolver, but I was wondering, if I use the shotgun, does every little bullet of one buckshot count for the accuracy ? or if only one hits for example, it won't count as a missed shot for the others ?

rigid pilot
#

Pellets probably don't count

onyx veldt
#

So as long as I have the hitmarker, even if it's only for one pellet, it's good ?

#

Just want to be sure lol

vast edge
#

Every pellet counts as a shot.

onyx veldt
#

Oh ok, ty !

ocean idol
#

I do start likingk nife

rocky jacinth
#

Shotguns, particularly the Kantrael have really high suppression and stagger so they're great for charging in at dudes or preventing gunners from doing anything

#

Or a quick flick at a Reaper to make him flinch

vast edge
#

Very hard for me to enjoy any other melee weapon for Vet than knife with how sluggish the other options are.

onyx veldt
#

Well, vets, Every shot count is now done ! The Zarona revolver was the way, not Agripinaa

agile forge
#

good mobility

#

only thing is you horde clear on heavies

#

which might still feel slow for you

#

but the heavies kill the horde so fucking fast

frank ocean
#

I still mainly use either Power Sword or Shovel.

thin stone
#

What should be ideal perks/blessings for Kantrael MG Ia Infantry Lasgun

agile forge
#

Blessings are Deadly Accurate / Headhunter

#

I forget perks

thin stone
#

What about No Respite?

#

This is what I currently have

agile forge
#

I would ask the numbers cat

thin stone
#

What's that

agile forge
#

@tall torrent that guy

#

Oh actually his guide is in the pins

#

It has the information too

austere pine
thick kestrel
#

Flak/Maniac are hard to go wrong with for the standard lasguns. for blessings headhunter is the big one, they really lean nicely into getting good value out of it.

after that either deadly accurate for more damage or ghost for greater damage mitigation depending on your needs/preference.

#

all three are good solid guns though with the MG Ia probably being the sweet spot

#

big trick is disciplining yourself to slow down and aim the shots as they'll shoot pretty damn quickly and it's very tempting to spam the trigger ^^

real sorrel
agile forge
#

Does the 13g have good single target with the heavies? I heard its single target sucks lol

#

I find I can either light spam for ragers and below, or revved heavy anything bigger, with a 4

#

And if it's a crusher I just use my gun or krak

ocean idol
#

What would you say the best bleedin build

agile forge
#

Shredder frag grenades

#

Other sources of bleed are marginal for veteran

#

Well maybe bloodletting chainsword but it's just to enable faster crusher kills

thin stone
#

Can someone recommend a Build around Vraks MK7 HH AG

austere pine
thin stone
#

Ok

austere pine
#

very funny but g a r b a g e

#

you're here to shoot at yellow dudes. that's it

topaz lance
thin stone
#

I see

austere pine
#

HH ags are bad but funny

#

you get more bullets than you get with a revolver

#

only upside

ocean idol
#

What weapons?

austere pine
#

hh mk7

ocean idol
#

also you gotta get grenade regen

real sorrel
austere pine
#

its garbage. you have 0 melee

ocean idol
#

i actually start liking smoke grenades

#

Just throw them at every cluster of shooters

#

Saves lots of trouble, especially during hordes

austere pine
#

me too but you can't do this build if you're taking the game seriously

ocean idol
#

and snipers

agile forge
#

Drop them on yourself too

austere pine
#

you cant spend most of the game shooting, especially a gun with this little boss dmg

agile forge
#

It's a throwable psyker bubble

#

Smoke grenades are amazing for events like the middle of chasm station imo

austere pine
#

or wait

agile forge
austere pine
#

thats uh

agile forge
#

You drop into a pit with an auspex hack objective in the middle

austere pine
#

ah yeah

agile forge
#

And enemies swarm from all sides and from a balcony

austere pine
#

long time since ive done assassination

agile forge
#

Rough mid event due to lack of shelter

austere pine
#

since i only play quickplay

agile forge
#

Smoke grenades create shelter

#

I am allergic to quickplay

#

Because I fucking hate lights out modifiers

tame lodge
#

Me with Vent Purge

austere pine
#

me with dogs

#

and yet i play

#

addicted to the bread

tame lodge
#

I power through Vent Purge Sitgryn

#

I don't remember it hiding tagged enemy outlines though

austere pine
#

it doesnt

#

but you also cant tag shooters

#

unless you have a exe stance friend with a spare talent point

frank ocean
#

I find it odd that Lights Out is now only on Auric/Maelstrom missions, when Vent Purge is basically just as limiting in your visibility

#

I want a reason to use the flashlight dammit

agile forge
#

I think there's accessibility concerns there too tbh

#

Vent purge doesn't bother me

#

but lights out has me squinting at my screen

tame lodge
sinful swallow
#

Both the assassinations are my fav missions though

tired monolith
#

Got this from a mission

#

Is it a brick?

junior needle
#

3/4 scuffed

#

very probably

austere pine
somber axle
#

It's one of the blessings that make it funny

#

Lawbringer Shotgun special action loads a unique shell with a horizontal spread pattern

tired monolith
#

ill just get hadron to rip the blessing off of it then

#

LMFAO

somber axle
#

Using it with these blessings can wipe hordes

ocean idol
#

Carapce is alright

junior needle
# ocean idol wat

You need unarmored/headtaker/brutal momentum at the very least, depending on how much melee juice you take in the tree

#

You need flak if you aren't taking any melee juice (or not enough for your roll)

#

This is due to caxes being extremely reliant on brutal for their clearing power, and needing to hit one taps on both bruiser types

agile forge
#

Clear speed on bruisers drops to like 1/8 of what it could be if you need 2 hits to kill a bruiser

#

Not an exaggeration

austere pine
#

caxes seem like ez weapons to operate and fit perfectly for newbies until you realize that they struggle super bad on lower levels and need all the help they can get to get good

#

either way, achlys<antax<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<rashad

#

never play not rashad

agile forge
#

Antax isn't that far behind it

#

And is easier to build

trim hemlock
agile forge
#

Rashad has 4 essential priority stats, Antax only has 3

junior needle
#

at least on vet

#

I'm gonna guess that if it is possible, it's either restricted to the rashad or harder to achieve for the antax

trim hemlock
#

I’m genuinely curious because I rarely if ever use Combat axes due to how strong they are with BM

tired monolith
#

What about this?

#

Is this any good?

#

I'm so new to chainswords on vet

#

lmfao

trim hemlock
#

Too bad it’s SS instead of Wrath, but it’s a decent result

tired monolith
#

so if I got wrath on it

junior needle
#

Wrath is mandatory on the 13g

#

Then you want either shred or rampage for the second blessing

tired monolith
#

noted

junior needle
trim hemlock
slow spade
#

Fatshark giving enemies a +10% hp boost just to brick the rashad 🙏

tame lodge
junior needle
#

20% unarmored will just barely not kill the scab bruiser

#

but 20% flak will get the dreg bruiser

atomic zephyr
#

hey, what's the easiest way to kill a bulwark w/ a mk6 knife?

#

backstabs, at least on uncanny/executor, dont seem to do much

slow spade
#

Iirc you can stab the head if you aim high enough

atomic zephyr
#

yes, its just generally a pain what with the shield there lmao

#

was wondering if there was a better way

slow spade
#

Ah ok yeah not sure, at least you have more wiggle room with the shield

junior needle
#

Can get around them and push attack from the back, they also drop their shield when attacking

atomic zephyr
#

oh right the push attack exists

agile forge
#

Is the 13g chainsword decent on single targets?

#

I like the 4 for the versatility but I didn't realise the 13g had a single target heavy

#

I thought it was an all-cleave weapon

junior needle
#

It's light spam for horde clear

#

Rev/heavy for single hard targets

#

Of course you can just rev light if you really want to

agile forge
#

Is it just better than the 4?

junior needle
#

It's easier than the 4, but not explicitly better

#

4 can get better clear if you do heavy spam/do the combo

agile forge
#

The 4 feels like it has busted horde clear already

junior needle
#

But the 13g is simple and easy

agile forge
#

Oh shit so 4 is the better horde clearer?

junior needle
#

If you want to put in the effort

agile forge
#

OK, that makes sense now

junior needle
#

It's also not that far behind the 13g if you build it for light spam

#

But the 13g has better lights for horde control

agile forge
#

4 isn't much effort tbf, heavy spam works almost as well as the HHLH combo

#

And the revved heavy kills anything that isn't an ogryn already

#

Or a mauler I guess

#

And light spam is good for singles too, but shit boss damage

#

Has been my experience with it

junior needle
#

That's true, however I only play light spam melee weapons because I am lazy chadgryn

agile forge
#

My girlfriend might like the 13g though, think it fits her logic better

#

I like the 15 eviscerator a lot more than the 2

#

The typical light horde, heavy ST paradigm is good when it's good

#

But the chainsword 4 feels like horde clearing with a heavy sword 9 already

#

I'll suggest the 13g to her once she gets up to the level where it unlocks

#

Silly fatshark giving you the technical version of weapons before the easy ones

#

And BM-less combat axes

sinful swallow
#

I've been trying to get my wife into this game

#

She really likes melee hack n slash

#

She kinda watches me mulch stuff with pc4 mk6 ps lol

#

Warhammer is just "nerd stuff" though Guarded

agile forge
#

My girlfriend liked resident evil already

misty crypt
#

That happened for me for vermintide, got drawed in it despite I know veeeeery little of the Warhammer world (and even less in the futurist version which I took to change from vermintide) 😂 it's gloomier and creepier by far but well, that's a change

agile forge
#

So I got her into left 4 dead

#

And that's transitioned into darktide

#

She likes ogryn lol

#

Just started ogryn now

#

Uh zealot even

midnight totem
#

One of my situationaships, I'm getting her into 40k.

misty crypt
#

Ogryns do sound like the nicest characters of the team but perhaps it's just because they're dull and don't realize lol

midnight totem
#

She nerds out about her horse girl games, I nerd out about 40k

#

She now knows more about 40k then she ever wanted to and finds it fascinating

somber axle
#

Soon they'll be deep in their pockets chasing figures to assemble and paint

midnight totem
#

XD

#

Besides that, 40k does have a reputation for

agile forge
atomic zephyr
#

mfw i stealth directly into the overhead a crusher is doing on the downed psyker

midnight totem
#

You know, actual fascists taking it too literally/ideally

chrome steppe
#

Since we are talking about it, antax with 2 power blessings and a high cleave stat. Does this work out good?

atomic zephyr
#

didnt GW have to drop a letter telling people "no, being intolerant is bad actually"

misty crypt
agile forge
agile forge
#

Nazi Punks Fuck Off

misty crypt
chrome steppe
#

Nazi punks? That doesn't seem to go together.

#

Ohhhhh punks as an insult not a type of person.

somber axle
#

After learning that I started enjoying the Krieg look more

junior needle
midnight totem
#

Nazis ruining stylish clothing

agile forge
junior needle
#

Nazis ruining all manner of cool symbolism with thousand of years of history

agile forge
#

Because nazis were trying to fit in with the skinhead and punk movement

#

I think it's by the dead kennedys

chrome steppe
#

Ohh yep, makes sense. Punks want none of that nazi shit.

midnight totem
#

And probably only slightly less addictive

agile forge
atomic zephyr
misty crypt
#

I let his friends handling the spending of the budget for the things to buy (I'm clueless) but I believe the comparison is accurate 😂

somber axle
misty crypt
midnight totem
somber axle
#

I've got a friend who moved to Florida from Germany and their accent is SO COOL plus I love hearing them speak in German

misty crypt
#

What. The. Heck. Several thousand dollars one monster?

#

Are they special editions, limited in number or something

somber axle
agile forge
#

I have been around those people before

#

They suck

chrome steppe
#

I wish we shut people down about holocaust denial like Germany.

somber axle
midnight totem
#

I'm actually surprised the Warlord titan is not the most expensive

agile forge
midnight totem
#

And loses to the manta by a good 300

agile forge
#

JK fucking Rowling.

misty crypt
somber axle
#

Sadly those are two of my fav factions so I will never fall into this trap LOL

midnight totem
#

Never say never

agile forge
#

Be a heretech

#

Kitbash it

somber axle
#

I spend too much on video game cosmetics as is

misty crypt
midnight totem
#

One day somebody will get you the beginnings of a mechanicus army

#

And then, well

#

You're only adding to it.

#

One more model here

somber axle
#

For the cost of half a usable Mechanicus tabletop army I could pay a cosplay artist team to make me a full Skitarii cosplay to wear instead

midnight totem
#

One more there

somber axle
#

I would love to get a full cosplay and lurk

#

I could probably be sneaky in a Skitarii cosplay too...

midnight totem
#

You remind me of that tech adept in the Ciaphas Cain novels

#

Felicia, I think her name was

somber axle
#

Maybe go to a Warhammer 40k convention with friends and just hide behind them

somber axle
thick kestrel
#

best thing about the Caiphus Cain books is of course that the audio books confirm that the Valhallans aren't russian or slavic...

they're Welsh :>

midnight totem
#

I have the fans plugged in and use extra desk fans anyway!

somber axle
#

I've got two friends in cybersecurity, one in IT and one in web design. They are all frustrated with how dumb I am with computers and I literally attended ITT Tech so I know a little bit but I have never assembled my own computer by hand so touching computer components scares me

#

I don't want to break my computer doing something stupid LOL

agile forge
somber axle
#

This isn't even the most awful computer sin I have saved

midnight totem
#

Easy way to deal with this Krag

#

-takes Sneaky's recons lasguns-

#

They're a cat. Take away the shiny laser pointer. Use the spray bottle

somber axle
#

you can have it if you can pry it from my cold clown hands assuming you can catch me

midnight totem
hearty panther
midnight totem
#

Cute cat. Yours?

hearty panther
#

legally. she probably disagrees tho

midnight totem
#

Yeah, probably the other way around

#

"My human. My house. My perch"

analog mural
#

Like, completely dry

somber axle
#

Are we sharing cats??

hearty panther
#

eh

#

standard issue cat

somber axle
#

This is Oin and she has a funny name because she was a funny cat

#

My brother brought home a cat one day and refused to get them fixed. Oin is descended from that original cat. We wanted to get them all fixed, get their shots and find them new homes so the rule was no naming any of them. But she kept climbing on furniture, my curtains and even me so to stop her from shredding everything by playing Shadow of the Catlossus I would say "Oi" very loudly. She would look over, stop and climb down

#

Then she thought it was her name anytime anyone would say it

#

So I had to keep her but the name felt weird so I added the "n" at the end to make her name sound at least like it belonged in a fantasy book or something

misty crypt
#

is sharing dogs allowed? 😂

somber axle
#

It is pet day

#

And that is a very cute dog

#

Do they have Bernese Mountain dog in their mix??

#

They look like one

misty crypt
#

Oh no he's an Australian shepherd

#

The eeeh... "small" race

midnight totem
#

Those eyes are begging for scratches

misty crypt
#

Yeahhhh he was like "take care of me pls"

#

Pets are very strong at this stance

thick kestrel
hearty panther
#

please just get rid of my sinuses

#

whyyyy

thick kestrel
#

Veteran Good boi (he's 12, despite appearances)

grand perch
#

If y'all keep posting pets, I'll post my 8 legged ones

versed harness
#

I saw on the launcher that kriegs skins are coming back... WHEN ?!! Does anybody know for the love of the Emperor ?

midnight totem
#

They're here now

austere pine
# chrome steppe Nazi punks? That doesn't seem to go together.

literally punks. it is a feature of the neo-nazi movement to take over left progressive movements. they succeeded in doing it to skinheads and have had a foot in the door of the punk movement for many, many years now (a big point of this is the problematic topic of lace code)

austere pine
versed harness
austere pine
#

they're gone again btw

#

@midnight totem @versed harness #darktide-driptide message

versed harness
#

Really ?

austere pine
#

yes, big man

midnight totem
#

Oh

#

Alas

#

You missed it by a day or two then

versed harness
#

That's it ! I'm uninstalling the game !

austere pine
#

literally a day

#

it was still there yesterday

#

omega sadge

midnight totem
#

I'm not gonna lie, they were here for, what, two weeks?

versed harness
#

And I'm guessing their not gonna be back before an eternity and a half !

wintry cove
#

yes

#

i’m sorry for ur loss lord

versed harness
#

Well I'm off that game ! I'm done ! Have a nice one for the impirium

somber axle
#

That's a big ouch wow

somber axle
#

I had a bernese mountain dog when I was in middle school and he was HUGE and fluffy

full nacelle
#

I love dog chat 😍

misty crypt
#

Yeahh when I was a kid we had one mixed with husky (which ended up being like a small bernese) and indeed miniature Australian is quite close in colors