crouching veteran, hidden plasma
#veteran-class
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twin cipher
Yall think we’ll ever get actual bionic limbs?
sleek garden
i saw a video of an ogryn killing a bruiser who got stuck on a railing and then he punched him over the cliff i thought it was funny
hallow parrot
'sides dressup? No
sleek garden
so i tried it in my game and realised i cant do it
tall torrent
it is
sleek garden
it has no effect on actual gameplay but its a bummer is all
tall torrent
u don't need GBITF
radiant chasm
you still can in DT i believe, just need to pump your ragdoll count up
tall torrent
I run this for rashad + plasma
bitter turtle
get back in the fight should probably be moved to redirect fire
hallow parrot
i saw a video of an ogryn killing a bruiser who got stuck on a railing and then ...
ragdoll interactions are spotty but most of the time I can cut the head off something that dies before I get to them.
I dunno what's the situation with that specific case
tall torrent
and u need redirect fire for plasma
sleek garden
who would i ask for a question like that
like hey why cant i chop up bodies when people die
sounds sane
tall torrent
who would i ask for a question like that
ask on FS forums
last parcel
sounds sane
sleek garden
i dont have an account for it but i guess i can try
hallow parrot
crazy? I was crazy once.
sleek garden
the first thing i see going on the forums is a guy making some mockup female ogryn models as an idea for the game
kind of funny
im curious why theres no lady ogryns actually i dont know anything about warhammer beyond darktide
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tall torrent
im curious why theres no lady ogryns actually i dont know anything about warhamm...
ogryn's gender in DT is unspecified
hallow parrot
every time you wonder about something like this, the answer most often boils down to "because it was decided like this"
grand perch
ogryn's gender in DT is unspecified
Gender is ogryn and they have love for the emperor in their pants
sleek garden
would make it 1000x worse
tall torrent
Gender is ogryn and they have love for the emperor in their pants
yea they said ogryn's gender is just "ogryn"
last parcel
what's your gender
ogryn
well what's in your pants
rashuns
hallow parrot
I mean when considered in a universe where orks come from mushrooms and are gifted with the power of positive thinking
radiant chasm
im curious why theres no lady ogryns actually i dont know anything about warhamm...
Nothing concrete but my running guess is that ogryn females are kept in safe “keeping” by the imperial guard or even imperium itself to always have a steady supply of ogryn males for the imperium
hallow parrot
at some point you start taking things at face value
tall torrent
Nothing concrete but my running guess is that ogryn females are kept in safe “ke...
it's because GW never did any official art for female ogryn
tall torrent
so nobody knows what they should look like
radiant chasm
it's because GW never did any official art for female ogryn
This is the out of canon explanation yes
sleek garden
its strange that you can do it on steam though
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fucking GERMANS
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german pass
tall torrent
i cant mutilate bodies because of germans
there're enough horrific death animations in this game already lol
radiant chasm
I heard that ogryn females are even more reckless and ogryn males can be possessive/overprotective which is counterproductive. tho this doesnt really hold much water when we know the real reason there isn’t (what numbers cat said)
sleek garden
there're enough horrific death animations in this game already lol
i like getting the 30 second trapper scream after you shoot her in the face and she staggers back and clutches her face with her hands
tall torrent
tall torrent
why do ragers not have death animations
they do
sleek garden
they seem to only have ragdolls though
sleek garden
i mean
half their death animations if you dont have enough force is that they just sit on their knees with their body bending backwards
tall torrent
again, depends on what weapon u hit them with
sleek garden
they seem to have a lot of force resistance
tall torrent
they have high stagger resist, yes
sleek garden
i meant more like a canned animation
tall torrent
mainly during their combos
sleek garden
not the ragdoll
tall torrent
but their death animation & gore depends on the weapon u hit them with
wanton dawn
Rager are natural ragedoll
sleek garden
if you keep hitting them do you ever get a canned animation though
they always do some kind of ragdoll
like muties
just found out the catachan does more damage to scab shotgunners if you hit them in the legs
bad flak
hallow parrot
it's important to take locational damage seriously in this game yeah
sleek garden
alternatively i could just one shot them with the parry
that reminds me
i swear there is an unarmoured part of a crusher
a few times i whale on them in the psykhanium and randomly will hit an unarmoured spot
i can't tell where it is
tall torrent
i swear there is an unarmoured part of a crusher
no
tall torrent
did u hit anything else
sleek garden
the power maul is so bad
but it leads to this situation
you just remove all the skin
its pretty funny
grand perch
Look how fucking happy he is
versed glade
somber axle
u don't need GBITF
I ended up switching Get Back in the Fight into Trench Fighter Drill because I'm using Mk VII Shovel and slapping through hordes feels so much more funny with it
somber axle
and u need redirect fire for plasma
that makes sense for breakpoints but this is a meme build meant to just go all in on being both a tank and a medic providing teamwide toughness regen
I went all over the tree grabbing both +25 toughness nodes, iron will, close order drill and even grabbed Voice of Command even though I generally hate running it
I grabbed Target Down instead of Redirect Fire for the better toughness regen to the squad
I'm running triple toughness curios
I feel so unkillable LMFAO
tall torrent
that makes sense for breakpoints but this is a meme build meant to just go all i...
If u wanted hilarious team wide toughness regen, play O4B with Rashad/PS6
somber axle
If u wanted hilarious team wide toughness regen, play O4B with Rashad/PS6
I don't have a Rashad worth using yet
tall torrent
40% toughness per swing
somber axle
Brunt and Hadron have not been kind with a melee weapon that wants 4/4 LMFAO
Shovel has served me well though and I love the satisfying BONK
The sprint efficiency paired with the better sprint value from shovel defense stat lets me sprint around SO MUCH
keeping up with the team feels so easy
not as fast as knife but nothing other than another knife would be able to keep up anyway
Also Power Sword is on my do not use weapon list next to Columnus Infantry Autogun as two weapons I just do not like using
they're very good
I don't like how they feel to play
Plasma is overpowered and generally I don't touch it but sometimes I feel like memeing and I love charging up plasma shots once in a blue moon
hallow parrot
the bonk is the best part
torpid grotto
@tall torrent that vet build for knife rules
hallow parrot
it's just kinda slow for those moments where the director thinks you're lonely
torpid grotto
The weakspot damage is insane
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> that vet build for knife rules
hallow parrot
I personally prefer chainswords and power swords (even though PS is annoying if you don't feel like just click spamming)
right now I'm on CS as kinda by elimination
unkempt estuary
Just started using chain axes, anyone know the best combination for blessings? I wanna know what to build for
junior needle
You'll get multiple variants of the same copypasted melee weapon
torpid grotto
You can go both power blessings or one power blessing + thrust
junior needle
Last time it was shovels, now its a pickaxe
hallow parrot
Just started using chain axes, anyone know the best combination for blessings? I...
guide says maniac/carapace (depending on which)
torpid grotto
I like carapace / unyielding, its good boss damage
I never played it on vet actually so maybe the bleed blessing is good
tall torrent
Just started using chain axes, anyone know the best combination for blessings? I...
Headtaker + slaughterer is the general go-to
hallow parrot
and it's not clear on blessings but I'd go for slaughterer annnd bloodletter?
tall torrent
and it's not clear on blessings but I'd go for slaughterer annnd bloodletter?
It needs both +power blessings
Horde clear with chainaxe is very very mid
hallow parrot
headtaker probably comes up faster
tall torrent
One of the worst
unkempt estuary
Horde clear with chainaxe is very very mid
This I def noticed, especially after maining chainsword
Thanks tho, I'm really enjoying chain axe and not feelin unless against the big boys
hallow parrot
yeah CA are very anti-elite focused
radiant chasm
Yea chaxe horde clear is a bit slow, it’s all about making it safer and better
So you go headtaker slaught, or with mk12 you can sub in thrust for consistent crusher oneshots iirc
unkempt estuary
Gotcha
vivid silo
Which Chain Axe Mk are you using?
radiant chasm
Keep headtaker since it stacks easily
unkempt estuary
Which Chain Axe Mk are you using?
Uh, the newer one
unkempt estuary
Keep headtaker since it stacks easily
I do got that too
Tested it out on damnation and it does some pretty good work
radiant chasm
It’s a bit dull, basically just either spamming lights with mk12 or mk4 spamming heavies with the occasional push attack
vivid silo
Aye Mk IV needs some specific things to work on Vet in my opinion. For the new one it doesnt matter as much
radiant chasm
Aye Mk IV needs some specific things to work on Vet in my opinion. For the new o...
Attack speed node for starters
vivid silo
Yeah, I also really like the stamina regen delay reduction nodes, for more push attacks
radiant chasm
I can get like 50% attack speed with one wound left and fotf buff active
vivid silo
(For Mk IV)
unkempt estuary
Seems I gotta modify my build a lil to fit the axe
But overall i fucks with ut
It
radiant chasm
And with punishment giving stagger the mk4 heavies will stunlock rager and mauler packs
vivid silo
If you grab Weapon Specialist you should be fine with the Mk 12. Bonus points for Agile Engagement
radiant chasm
And cause your light when fully stacked to stagger crusher on headshot (but you’ll lose punishment soon after)
Mk4 just loves stat checking, mk12 is easier and needs less investment
unkempt estuary
I'm thinking of sticking with the 12, just love the overhead heavies and sweeping lights
vivid silo
Aye the Mk IV has so many neat uses, but requires more knowledge. But I simply cannot put it down after having started using it. Now 7/10 of my builds use it
hallow parrot
just moveset wise the mk12 tries its damn heart out to make up for the bad anti horde
it's still a chainaxe but I mean
unkempt estuary
Tru, it ain't half bad but it ain't half good either
I appreciate it tho, gets the job done
hallow parrot
hey man, if you're running damnation on it
like I appreciate that in the game. Even what's considered to be trash tier is workable in all difficulties
radiant chasm
Aye the Mk IV has so many neat uses, but requires more knowledge. But I simply c...
Knowing when you can use the lights instead of a rev heavy for single target is huge
vivid silo
Yeah stick with it, nothing beats a bit of rip and tearing
radiant chasm
like I appreciate that in the game. Even what's considered to be trash tier is w...
Paul users crying
vivid silo
Knowing when you can use the lights instead of a rev heavy for single target is ...
Indeed. I use the lights alot since they are so safe now that you can dodge out
unkempt estuary
Still, can't wait to pair it with the bolt pistol when it comes out. I'm usin heavy Las pistols, but I want more power
radiant chasm
Chaos spawns are usually always better to use lights since you can get broken through twbs and lose your heavy rev just cause it’s ass wiggled the wrong wavelength
unkempt estuary
Also, give me a fuckin powerfist and meltas already
vivid silo
It feels a bit like the ol' Plasma where you needed to know the ins and outs to squeeze every last bit of efficiency out of it
radiant chasm
If the crusher isn’t focusing you or you don’t need the impact stagger of a rev’d heavy lights are better, but it’s just counterintuitive to a lot of people because
hallow parrot
Paul users crying
ogryns built different
radiant chasm
I think it’s the only melee currently whose lights are solely single target
Maybe achlys caxe?
torpid grotto
I tried the powersword for the first time today isnt this by far the most op melee in the game
vivid silo
Its pretty good yeah
Its personally not a playstyle I vibe with, but a lot of people do
hallow parrot
I mean I wouldn't call it "the most OP melee"
unkempt estuary
Don't like how it is tbh, bit it is good
hallow parrot
crushers are a thing
vivid silo
Having to constantly activate it is just annoying
torpid grotto
You can just kill crushers with light attacks :/
vivid silo
So can a Chain Axe 
unkempt estuary
Chainaxe 
radiant chasm
Chaxe for the chaxe god
Yall young templars dont know how bad it was
The mk4 slow horde clear used to be even worse
somber axle
I tried the powersword for the first time today isnt this by far the most op mel...
It is yes and with Power Cycler IV it becomes even crazier
radiant chasm
Even less cleave damage, 40% less maniac adm, slower, rev’d attacks locking you in place. Fuckin clubthrough on lights
vivid silo
Yeah I remember giving it a try prior to the talent rework and it was awful
And I dont mind using "bad" weapons, but that was something else
radiant chasm
Where if you got too much power/cleave your mk4 lights would just not function on trash and pass through an enemy dealing only like 10-20% damage
grand perch
Chads hate the chaxe
radiant chasm
Because the damage was all tied to the shredding
torpid grotto
It is yes and with Power Cycler IV it becomes even crazier
the only weakness seems to be you cant kite with it
radiant chasm
All of it has been fixed
vivid silo
Weapon Specialist helps with kiting
torpid grotto
energized push attack is insane
odd sparrow
the only weakness seems to be you cant kite with it
yeah power sword is not very mobile, on the other hand you dont need mobility if everything you come into contact with is dead
somber axle
the only weakness seems to be you cant kite with it
Yeah I don't like Power Sword and that's part of the reason. The mobility is awful. People often take Weapon Specialist JUST to make the mobility feel slightly better on it. Weapon Specialist keystone can help the dodge distance somewhat. I've seen a few people here use move speed aura to help it too
tall torrent
I tried the powersword for the first time today isnt this by far the most op mel...
No
It has very clear weaknesses
It’s very strong yes
But you have to play it in a very aggressive way vs everything
The moment you get forced into defense you lose all momentum
grand perch
The lack of dodge distance has killed me a fair number of times too
rigid pilot
Charge cancels very easily to block, crab did comment alot about peesword and blocking
tall torrent
Charge cancels very easily to block, crab did comment alot about peesword and bl...
block cancel is a thing but when you're pushed into less favourable positions and 3 ragers are within melee distance it's harder to avoid getting combo'd with power sword than a lot of other melee options
odd sparrow
Which pairs well with VoC to help you get out of sticky situations
umbral parrot
What? 66 ain't bad at all.
To be honest, i'd take Damage last. Finesse works so well with Weapon Specialist, and Mobility is always great.
hearty carbon
just out of curiosity, what would be a great roll for a weapon?
umbral parrot
Depends on.
odd sparrow
for almost all weapons
80+ on every stat, 50+ on mobility
for those with defense 80+ on every stat, 50+ defense
umbral parrot
But generally, i'd always go Penetration/Stopping power first
hearty carbon
Hmm, okay, good to know
umbral parrot
And i'd disagree! Mobility is what you need to get out of a sticky situation! I'd always go Mobility over Damage
agile yew
It is yes and with Power Cycler IV it becomes even crazier
Its become a joke to check everyday Melk if i get that blessing, half year gone and still no.
odd sparrow
50 mobility is the requirement for 1+ dodge
junior needle
Power sword deserves to be strong for having what I'd consider to be a tedious playstyle
umbral parrot
And forgetting about the dodge distance? Then you'd get goof balls jumping right before a Mauler strikes them.
No, Damage should probably go second to last or last.
odd sparrow
Its become a joke to check everyday Melk if i get that blessing, half year gone ...
getting cycler is a pretty tedious hopefullly crafting rework makes things less rng reliant
umbral parrot
With the know how, Finnese and Penetration/Stopping Power should more than enough make up for taking down Elites or high priority targets.
junior needle
I dearly wish fatshark would rework the charging mechanics to not be tedious and stop balancing weapons with jank
rigid pilot
Battery mechanic 
umbral parrot
GASP!
odd sparrow
damage is important for all weapons hitting 1-2 hit breakpoints is super important
umbral parrot
Battery Mechanic would be a bit annoying.
rigid pilot
I don't think it's tedious though
umbral parrot
^
odd sparrow
so you have to roll an entirely new weapon everytime
rigid pilot
Chaos wastes atoma
junior needle
Battery mechanic would probably be less annoying than having to charge every few attacks, but it's highly dependant on actual implementation.
I'd prefer bloodborne style alternative movesets/weapon stats.
odd sparrow
they also shoulnt allow us to selll weapons
so inventory gets super slow to crawl through
torpid grotto
anyone know the differences between all the headhunter autoguns
umbral parrot
Yea, momma Hadron would get pissed if we sell off her stuff lol
agile yew
rigid pilot
Battery mechanic would probably be less annoying than having to charge every few...
You played vt2? Imagine darwi engineer crank gun 
odd sparrow
anyone know the differences between all the headhunter autoguns
whether they are single shot or burst
agile yew
Id have this to slap Power Cycler IV on
rigid pilot
Would actually be the worst
umbral parrot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1232639854404440156/i...
THAT FINNESE AND MOBILITY!
junior needle
You played vt2? Imagine darwi engineer crank gun <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290616...
Barely, and never touched that
umbral parrot
Push stab would be enough to stop most things without charging up your weapon!
odd sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1232639854404440156/i...
wow those stats are a godroll, less fortunate about the perks however
rigid pilot
Ah, basically you hold R to charge your gun every so often
junior needle
anyone know the differences between all the headhunter autoguns
Burst size, damage, recoil, ammo capacity. The vraks 3 and the vraks 7 are the good ones currently.
rigid pilot
I guess it's like quelling 
junior needle
vraks 7 is the single shot dmr
torpid grotto
cool
agile yew
wow those stats are a godroll, less fortunate about the perks however
Would have 1 perk reroll left so i guess Weak Spot to Flak would be ok
torpid grotto
im thinking ghost is pretty good on vraks 7
junior needle
The agri 9 is the 2 shot one and just generally inferior to either
rigid pilot
Ghost is great 
odd sparrow
Would have 1 perk reroll left so i guess Weak Spot to Flak would be ok
i woulld change unarmored to maniac
agile yew
Unarmored die regardless of that bonus already?
odd sparrow
you already hit 1hit BP on ggunners with just a tiny amount of dmg increase from talents
agile yew
Ok makes sense
junior needle
im thinking ghost is pretty good on vraks 7
Ghost is good but not really on that one, it's a bit particular about breakpoints and you want to run surgical and another damage blessing like DA or possible opening salvo depending on how much juice you're comfortable pumping into it.
torpid grotto
I see
im playing vet for the first time and all the weakspot and damage talents are insane
junior needle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1232639854404440156/i...
Supercharge is essentially useless on power swords at the moment, rampage is a fine blessing in a vacuum but doesn't come close to brutal performance because brutal is busted.
umbral parrot
Yea, aim for the head!
agile yew
Supercharge is essentially useless on power swords at the moment, rampage is a f...
Supercharge i put there just because IT IS USELESS so to make sure i can reroll it to something good (power cycler IV)
junior needle
agile yew
Before i finished concecrating it
umbral parrot
Brutal Momentum is what i'd go with.
My Power Sword has that. Just slice heads left and right since the Power Sword is very accurate.
odd sparrow
a little bit yeah
umbral parrot
I mean... yea. That's why Power Swords are awesome.
agile yew
I have played like 1 game with Power Sword, because never got Power Cycler IV, great game design
umbral parrot
Pfft, you think that's the worst design?
How about the new achievements? Literally joined in a game, threw my nades, leave, join another game, repeat.
torpid grotto
i hate u lol
odd sparrow
old power cycler used to give like 8 more hits, it was so broken the drop rate was abbysmal.
umbral parrot
Never tried the old Power Cycler, i'm jealous.
I main Ogryn so i missed out on all the fun there.
finite carbon
How about the new achievements? Literally joined in a game, threw my nades, leav...
players when the game doesn't psychologically manipulate to play the game in an enjoyable manner
odd sparrow
How about the new achievements? Literally joined in a game, threw my nades, leav...
that doesnt seem worth it really, if you have both grenade regen talents youll be racking up grenades pretty fast
umbral parrot
I am mainly talking about the Ogryn and Zealot class.
odd sparrow
ah
i feel like one of the problem with penances is that there's put too much emphasis on them
for the player i mean
most of them do just naturally happen as you play
which is fine
umbral parrot
Until it's not.
odd sparrow
but players getting obsessed with beating certain one's isnt great. And its completely fair why players do when the game is screaming at you to check the new penances cause you have rewards waiting for you
umbral parrot
Thankfully there are tips and tricks people shared to help progress faster.
odd sparrow
and some of the penances are bs
umbral parrot
Wish there was a solo mode. Would have made several penances easier to do.
Like the stupid Ogryn one where you literally got to trigger lucky bullet.
odd sparrow
so just shoot lol
umbral parrot
That one was decent because all i had to do was do the Karnak twin match on the easiest difficulty, reach the end where the huge ammount of ammo cache is laying around and just have fun and watch a video on your phone or something
I DON'T LIKE SHOOTING AS AN OGRYN!
It's not fun. Just like the Veteran, it's much more fun to just get into melee.
Oh also Krak grenades was annoying as well.
I don't even like using Krak grenades either!
odd sparrow
im lucky in that i dont care about doing penances
umbral parrot
Must be nice! Finished all but the private match ones.
I stopped tho, i got what i wanted~ ❤️
rigid pilot
Stubber is the real dakka experience
agile forge
Light em up PBB achlys stubber is satisfying as fuck
agile forge
And you're still powerful as hell in melee
Ranged focus ogryn is still one of the stronger melee focuses in the game
agile forge
Objectively wrong but OK :)
umbral parrot
Why shoot when you can smash, crush and crunch!?
woven vigil
Heard the new kasrkin helmet apparently has a voice changer like the Scion helmet used to have? (Despite it being only a cloth mask). Can someone confirm? I won't get to the PC until late today 
finite carbon
Objectively wrong but OK :)
Your mom is objectively wrong
umbral parrot
Another reason why i love Veteran
STAMINA The amount of blocking in a simple game is just crazy
You'd think Ogryns would get something that would make them regen Stamina faster for more Melee fun. Hmmph!
grand perch
I find it a bit odd liking vet for stamina reasons when it's baseline the worst of the classes in stamina regen and delay
Sure, there's talents, but still
hollow ibex
lol yeah
vivid silo
Well the Vet can get Stamina delay lower than a Zealot and potentially lower costs, but the regen rate is going to be slower.
umbral parrot
If you put 2 points into the stamina delay thing, won't you regen faster?
umbral parrot
Huh, never realized that.
Regardless, I also 3 3 3 stamina on Zealot lol.
And Psyker....
vivid silo
I usually only run with max 1, but I also use a Chain Axe with both stamina delay reduction nodes
I have it more for push attacks than blocking, but I still block >10 attacks per mission at least
umbral parrot
Heck yea!
vivid silo
Especially when eating chips and hearing the melee-attack-warning whilst only having 1 hand
grand perch
1 stamina curio max. Debated using 2 for my deadshot build but decided against it
agile yew
Kickback Ogryn so easymode that it was finally what got me into Auric missions at good success rate
agile forge
Kickback Ogryn so easymode that it was finally what got me into Auric missions a...
The OP shit is actually a really good on-ramp tbh
rigid pilot
On-ramp?
dire olive
Training wheels
rigid pilot
Ah, yea the guaranteed stagger is really nice
languid spade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1232639854404440156/i...
What mod is that for the expanded tool tips?
agile yew
Not at home so cant check
trim hemlock
What mod is that for the expanded tool tips?
It should be this.
Do mind that the mod does not always tell all the correct information
rocky jacinth
with stripped down+duck and dive Vet can become permanently immune to bullets
That's a real gamer move
midnight totem
Vld6
hollow ibex
just don't use II
steep nexus
Yeah, VId with infernus is my reccomendation as well
midnight totem
IIa has better values overall, II sucks
hearty panther
7 is goofy to me
Two ammo per shot but it's not even a full 2x damage and it's even less than half as fast to shoot
It's not like the 6 is hard to control
I don't know what the benefit of those tradeoffs are other than 'it can penetrate trash' which i personally don't value lol
hollow ibex
it's like a bad agri
trim hemlock
I don't know what the benefit of those tradeoffs are other than 'it can penetrat...
You get to hit whatever is behind the trash easier, for what it’s worth
Or you just cleave more trash, which isn’t the worst thing in the world
iron marten
I thought the ordo docket limit is gone when the account wallet got introduced lol
bolt pistol funds ig
junior needle
Which veteran recon lasgun is the best?
6d has the highest theoretical dps if you take onslaught, which is a big point sink. 7a has the highest dps without onslaught. 2 has abysmally low dps even for a recon.
None of them are doing good atm in terms of either dps or ammo efficiency, and they rely heavily on the talent tree to salvage their performance.
thin stone
Hmm
tame lodge
Get the one with soft cleave
junior needle
For a visual representation of the potential power gap between IAG's and recons: #veteran-class message
That's the 7a
With the cleave
6d in the video
rocky jacinth
columnus infantry autogun is the best recon lasgun
thin stone
Which infantry lasgun is best
junior needle
1a has superceded the k12
And is generally regarded as the best due to having the highest dps and nearly as good breakpoints as the k12 while also having higher qol with the firerate
thin stone
Hmm
junior needle
mg4 has the best ammo efficiency iirc though
junior needle
There's a pretty reliable guide in the pins
It's a pdf so you'll have to download it though
atomic zephyr
MG1A my beloved
kills everything that isn’t carapace
which applies to a lot of guns but I like how controllable it is
thin stone
Hmm
clear lantern
I thought the ordo docket limit is gone when the account wallet got introduced l...
limits exist due to how programming works; a number has to be stored in some data type, and due to the rules of typing, there is a memory capacity built in; so a 4B Float can store 16.7 Million and a 4B integer can store 2.1Billion and so on.
rocky jacinth
shoutouts to my homie shotgun
sturdy zephyr
Columnua are all rounder gun. Easy to use easy to kill
thin stone
Apart from plasma gun
junior needle
Probably
thin stone
Are the infantry lasguns worth using for the ammo regen
Because I have a hard time managing ammo
clear lantern
is your ammo% 70+?
thin stone
is your ammo% 70+?
79
junior needle
I find the bouncing on them to be annoying but if you can tolerate that they're pretty reliable but don't stand out as amazing
rocky jacinth
not really, if you want easy ammo management you can play weapons specialist
sturdy zephyr
The auto las gun?I don't use and yes they ammo hungry
clear lantern
oh, well then.
clear lantern
those recons are gonna burn through ammo fast; and if you're using the bayo'd rifles, and fully charging every shots, it'll burn just as much
thin stone
This is my roll
thin stone
those recons are gonna burn through ammo fast; and if you're using the bayo'd ri...
I'm talking Infantry Lasgun
clear lantern
the infantry lasgun will depend on which you're using; if you're using the slower kind, those are using like 3 cells per shot
sturdy zephyr
This is good imo
thin stone
Hmm
clear lantern
but the quick one I have like 1200+ shots in the pack
sturdy zephyr
Depends what you want to use.
thin stone
I want to use something that won't give me ammo troubles lol
clear lantern
stick to what is fun; if you have the more powerful one, you're gonna need to make sure you're not missing so much and maybe use grenades and melee to deal with thicker hordes
sturdy zephyr
I swap few mission with lasgun if bored
clear lantern
I play literally every single weapon
rocky jacinth
the best way to avoid ammo troubles is to do so much damage that everything in the room level is dead before you run out
clear lantern
or sometimes stand overwatch for specials/elites and let the zealot and ogryn mob it up
sturdy zephyr
My only way to conserve are shoot the special melee the trashhorde
trim hemlock
I want to use something that won't give me ammo troubles lol
… just how much do you use your ranged weapon over your melee?
Columnus is not a gun you should have ammo troubles with
rocky jacinth
Tommy are you on console
clear lantern
using a braced and headhunter and just melee butt-bashing
trim hemlock
Good ones: power swords, Rashad combat axe, combat blade 6.
I personally like chainaxe 4, though
clear lantern
catachan swords to parry kill ragers
junior needle
The 6 is the less beginner friendly option for a knife
mk3 is pure light spam for clear, doinks for big targets
steep nexus
Only problem with power sword is it takes a while to get a usable one
junior needle
6 requires you to heavy and weave
steep nexus
Because without power cycler it's dog ass
sturdy zephyr
Only problem with power sword is it takes a while to get a usable one
I agree. With PC3 I can't do much in damn hordes.
Rashad,chainsword,catacan maybe much easy imo
trim hemlock
Pc3 is good enough to make the PS usable
junior needle
My recommendation for ezpz horde clear would be the 13g chainsword
Lightspammer, top tier clear speed
glad spade
was about to ask about the 13g
seen multiple guides reccomend it
but not mention here make me feel like it was a noob trap
tbf haven't used it yet
junior needle
You take wrath and either shred or rampage on it
faint beacon
13g is mainly meant for horde clearing
junior needle
Shred is better than it seems due to how chainswords crit damage falloff works
sturdy zephyr
What's the blessing best for all rounder 13g?I have stop use long ago
clear lantern
Chain weapons with shread help with crushers/bulwarks/ragers because they get stunned in the power attack
junior needle
Shred is better than it seems due to how chainswords crit damage falloff works
I am invisible
Yes wrath is mandatory on that one
trim hemlock
Lightspammer, top tier clear speed
It’s really stupid how effective it is 
Effective for little effort*
junior needle
It's a bit less clear speed on the chunkiest of targets like scab bruisers compared to rampage, but iirc more equal or better clear speed of flimsier hit mass targets and better single target damage
trim hemlock
It’s not bromentum axe, but it’s an autopilot swarm clear
faint beacon
It falls off with specials or armored enemies vs the 4 but like you’re using the 13g you’re meant to fly through hordes like butter with it
bitter turtle
but not mention here make me feel like it was a noob trap
It's better on zealot than vet
Imo
Wouldnt rly use it on vet
sturdy zephyr
Do zealot have melee speed talent¿
faint beacon
but not mention here make me feel like it was a noob trap
Zealot is more efficient with it but you can still get away with using it on Vet when it’s built correctly
faint beacon
Do zealot have melee speed talent¿
Crits, LodsOfCrits
bitter turtle
I don't see any advantage 13 has over 4 on vet
junior needle
Lightspam
trim hemlock
Streamlined light spam
junior needle
Rather than heavies primarily
bitter turtle
Yes I know how it's supposed to be used
trim hemlock
Versus “complex” heavy attack combos
bitter turtle
But performance wise what do you gain
junior needle
Nothing really
Which is fine
As long as there's a "nearly as good" option for light spam I'm happy
bitter turtle
Besides losing the option to bloodletter
junior needle
I aint comboing shit
faint beacon
From what I can see out of it, good if your primary weapon is strictly meant for taking out specials or carapace etc etc
bitter turtle
Except the 4 does it faster
junior needle
Except the 4 does it faster
You know who else does it faster?
bitter turtle
The main reason the 13 has a niche on zel is because light spam plays better into bp crit cdr and fotf means they don't need bletter for rev
junior needle
||My mom||
bitter turtle
Even for light spam it is better by like literally 5% give or take
Compared to light spam with 4
junior needle
Where is this chart from
trim hemlock
What’s the target clear group for this table?
bitter turtle
17 seconds vs 19
junior needle
I've seen this before
bitter turtle
100 poxwalkers no talents
trim hemlock
I.e., what was being killed and in what amount
junior needle
But it does all sorts of dumb stuff
Like the mk3 knife testing
Absolutely what is that
bitter turtle
I verified chs times myself
trim hemlock
Combat blade 3 with Precog 101 seconds 
bitter turtle
Like the mk3 knife testing
Bc uncanny does nothing
junior needle
lacerate mercy killer
junior needle
who does this
clear lantern
who does this
programmers/engineers
bitter turtle
If you really wanted to juice poxwalker killing only
That would probably be rhe idea
steep nexus
lacerate mercy killer
Why did I think this said something else, someone kill me immediately
bitter turtle
It's nice to show that even so it's trash
trim hemlock
who does this
A surprising amount of people in public lobbies*
Sometimes it’s Flesh Tearer + Lacerate
junior needle
Lacerate mercy killer is probably worse honestly
faint beacon
Sometimes it’s Flesh Tearer + Lacerate <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
Okay okay okay hear me out
Serrated blade
trim hemlock
I can respect Haymaker for the meme, I even have one HM4 CB6
faint beacon
HAYMAKER LACERATE MK6
trim hemlock
Serrated blade
A good skill to have with Mercy Killer
bitter turtle
The knife blessings are gonna be goofy bc it's meant for poxes only
faint beacon
A good skill to have with Mercy Killer
Correct but those blessings you listed off a pure bleed stack build sounds useless but funny
junior needle
bitter turtle
If you tun uncanny it might as well be a blank slot
trim hemlock
The knife blessings are gonna be goofy bc it's meant for poxes only
Unsurprisingly though, Haymaker does help with clear speed v other options 
bitter turtle
Why
orchid hemlock
bitter turtle
It would definitely be worse at everything
Haymaker lac is testing the idea of just spamming heavies into bodies
If that meaningfully changes ttk
Vs haymaker executor
Spamming heavies into heads
Spoilers: it's much worse
Shouldn't be much of a surprise
junior needle
Why the tac axes all taking brutal and decimator
radiant chasm
Because zealots tend to favor deci
faint beacon
Not even headtaker?
faint beacon
I aint taking deci over headtaker
Risk reward I guess
faint beacon
Guess it’s solely based on how you see yourself performing with it
junior needle
Rather than "Look how fast I can go in this entirely impractical scenario"
radiant chasm
Deci is practical for zealot
We have the attack speed and damage to ramp it up quicker even if it does drop
junior needle
I uh, did not find it practical
radiant chasm
HT has less max bonus
junior needle
It stacks one at a time
radiant chasm
You can go either
trim hemlock
Also, Deci stacks once per strike, no?
radiant chasm
Both are viable
junior needle
Deci is considerably less practical atm than headtaker
radiant chasm
Also, Deci stacks once per strike, no?
It’s a tactical axe you swing like 3 times a second
bitter turtle
Real taxe players use shred 😉
trim hemlock
HT can immediately go to 4 if you BM through several enemies, though
radiant chasm
HT can immediately go to 4 if you BM through several enemies, though
It’s taxe
radiant chasm
You aren’t going to regularly hit the 4 bm swing like, at all
trim hemlock
Oh, hold on, this isn’t about combat axe
In that case I still wouldn’t use Decimator
faint beacon
Lmao
radiant chasm
And still deci is still a valid side grade for zealots on combat axes, maybe not on vet that wants the consistency of HT
trim hemlock
I’d worry about dropping the buff by whiffing a strike - I don’t need to keep that in mind with HT
faint beacon
Imo Matters on how you see yourself performing overall with it but with Taxes you should probably run Deci seeing it’s single target spam
radiant chasm
It’s higher ceiling is a worth whole trade off if you can manage it
faint beacon
Combat on the other hand Headtaker
junior needle
Must be a very new thing, first I've heard of deci being preferable for anything
radiant chasm
You haven’t even smoked the crack that is decap combat axe
It’s like deci on crack on zealot
Even higher ceiling, even lower lows
junior needle
Or even "on par" with headtaker for anything
faint beacon
Must be a very new thing, first I've heard of deci being preferable for anything
Atryx II Taxe with Deci is… shockingly hilarious and effective on WS keystone
Though this is Diet Zealot basically
junior needle
Atryx II Taxe with Deci is… shockingly hilarious and effective on WS keystone
taxe 2 is just diet rashad
faint beacon
True
junior needle
And it's more particular about the roll
faint beacon
Rashad actually horde clears without breaking your finger from spam clicking
thin stone
I have a really bad chainsword for a melee
junior needle
I mean, you don't horde clear with lights on a taxe 2
So it's not as bad as it could be
thin stone
So what would you recommend
faint beacon
You’d be surprised how much I resorted to the chimpanzee instinct of spamming lights and it just worked lmao
thin stone
Which melee
junior needle
the regular taxe lights are pretty bad for clear because of the verticals
Except the 4
Which doesn't have verticals
thin stone
Taxe?
junior needle
Quick, ez, effective would be 13g chainsword with wrath and shred or rampage
faint beacon
I think the reason I got away with it cause I was running WS and Trench Fighter on Vet
junior needle
Taxes are uh
thin stone
What is taxe
faint beacon
Tactical Axe
steep nexus
You’d be surprised how much I resorted to the chimpanzee instinct of spamming li...
Power sword, mmmm mouse button 4 + click 3x combo
faint beacon
Combat Axe is what you’d want to run if you’re looking for actual horde clear axes
bitter turtle
Taxes are for the honorable reject
faint beacon
Power sword, mmmm mouse button 4 + click 3x combo
Rashad II with BM doing the same thing with one click at head level lmao, it’s such a dumb axe with the blessing
clear lantern
like, I like the axe that cleaves really well, but I love the axe that has the different running power attack where they turn it backwards and swing for the skull
steep nexus
Rashad II with BM doing the same thing with one click at head level lmao, it’s s...
Light swing my beloved <3
midnight totem
thin stone
What roll and which one?
midnight totem
That's not a sword!
faint beacon
Look I went from using shovels religiously to using the Rashad II
midnight totem
HERESY
junior needle
Power sword and rashad require a particular amount of crafting goodness to make work
faint beacon
That's not a sword!
Look I changed my Rashad II into a shovel but it actually makes sense cause Entrenchment tools can do that smh
clear lantern
recruit shovels are just your cupped hands
midnight totem
junior needle
I will once again recommend this for beginners: #veteran-class message
Very simple to craft
No particular breakpoints requiring high stats or any fancy blessings
faint beacon
It’s hilarious how like you won’t touch the Rashad II till you get an actual good roll and then boom instantly your reliable melee lmao
steep nexus
I can never stop using the power sword after my god roll
I'm a recon power sword lover for life
spark acorn
It’s hilarious how like you won’t touch the Rashad II till you get an actual goo...
This is real shit, I still don't understand how it goes so much harder than the 13g
bitter turtle
Very simple to craft
Why not just craft 4
It's even simpler
Since wrath and savage sweep both work
And bloodletter is an option
faint beacon
This is real shit, I still don't understand how it goes so much harder than the ...
Brutal Momentum + aim head level = win
bitter turtle
Is heavy spamming rly that much harder
spark acorn
I guess it really is that easy
junior needle
For shitters, yes
bitter turtle
Ok
Then why not just light spam on 4
And turn it into a better weapon later
It's literally a sub 5% ttk difference
And if the new player suddenly has an epiphany to hold their left click sometimes
Their heavies aren't useless garbage
junior needle
Hmm, well assuming this chart is correct
bitter turtle
Imo a bloodletter chs4 is a good bet for a new player
junior needle
It would be that big of a deal but the 13g does have more and wider swings on lights
bitter turtle
Otherwise they might think the rev actually does something
And die
To animation lock
Letter + savage only pushes up the ttk to 18 seconds vs 13
Not a huge loss
Not on the chart but I tested it when discussing with path
midnight totem
I like cleave + bloodletter on my 13
bitter turtle
its probably workable but i dont see the point when the lights have a lot less natural cleave to get you started vs 4's naturally cleaving heavies
junior needle
I think he means wrath and bloodletter
As supposed to sweep, which would be very sus
bitter turtle
well of course
but that still mean syou are going to struggle until it stacks vs bruisers
v s just
heavy attacking
lost epoch
I have a zealot that just hit lvl 30 and a lot of materials, what weapons should I be buying from brunts cause idk what's good and what's not
tall torrent
I have a zealot that just hit lvl 30 and a lot of materials, what weapons should...
Crusher is relatively easy to craft & very strong
U need Skullcrusher (blessing) on it, preferably IV
Perks, ideally maniac + carapace but not completely necessary
As for gun
Mk5 infantry autogun is the easiest to craft, you just need dum dum (blessing) and +flak dmg (perk)
agile forge
Zarona is a priority craft
You need Flak, handcannon and surgical
And ideally elite, otherwise maniac
tall torrent
You need Flak, handcannon and surgical
Flak is not necessary
And Zarona is a 3/4 craft gun
A lot harder to roll than Columnus
agile forge
What is the necessary one then?
midnight totem
Manic, elite, unarmored, carapace
agile forge
did I get the priorities the wrong way around
ugh I have some zaronas to unfuck then
I was wondering if there was something up with my not being able to reliably one hit gunners
midnight totem
Manic let's you headshot flamers without a crit
Unarmored is necessary for headshotting dredge gunners without a crit
agile forge
Scab gunners die anyway if you have elite I guess?
I might try to make some unarmoured elite revolvers then
midnight totem
Or they just die anyway
agile forge
sounds like the BPs I want
midnight totem
Because dredge gunners have 1400 hp
Scab have 1200
Carapace helps with headshots to crushers and maulers of course
I'm actually thinking of ignoring carapace crushers and handcannon for rending altogether
midnight totem
Since I don't use my revolver to shoot crushers often
bitter turtle
Maniac let's you crit bodyshot ragers
rocky jacinth
Not like revolver blessings are actually particularly important, as long as you run surgical and/or get crits from WS
You'll have a beast of a gun without having to spend millions
bitter turtle
@agile forge
@midnight totem
you dont need unarmored for dreg gunners
elite is also enough for that
midnight totem
Only if you have elite superiority
bitter turtle
and for what reason would you not have that
agile forge
I mean I was talking zealot zarona at the start of this
bitter turtle
pretty sure zealot will want unarmored even less
also not sure why accessing grenade regen would somehow prevent you from taking superiority complex
you can grab both grenade regen talents on the tree and still get everything else you want
in a "normal" zarona build
this still 1 tap bodyshot rager
1 tap no crit headshot gunners
1 tap no crit headshot flamers
2tap crit headshot crushers
with maniac/elite
there rly isnt any reason to run much else on revolver
tall torrent
What is the necessary one then?
Elite
agile forge
I bet I get home and find that I already changed my revolvers to elite maniac though now lmao
bitter turtle
just tested
unless you wanna lose your rager 1taps
you need flaniac
for zealot
feel free to ask the zealot chat tho
bitter turtle
I mean I was talking zealot zarona at the start of this
no perks
i doubt they are gonna tell you unarmored is the play on zeal either though
bitter turtle
crushers prolly dont matter too much on zealot
i doubt you can hit 2tap range anyway
but you have fotf to solve carapace anyway
agile forge
Most of my zealots do at least
My evis15 build is chorus, but on the other hand, it has an evis15
So Crushers still go splat
old quail
i doubt you can hit 2tap range anyway
stuck with a meager throwing knife one shot
old quail
tragically this isn't true as the throwing knife is just better
the power of manstopper scattershot
bitter turtle
throwing knife on vet when
midnight totem
you can grab both grenade regen talents on the tree and still get everything els...
Oh well. I'm running infiltrate. Also bring it down down the center for krak grenades and increased ogryn/monster damage
old quail
tknives probably have less value because vet gets stuff like suppression immunity
old quail
not with manstopper they don't
bitter turtle
Throwing knife stops at 1 target though
clearly
agile forge
But they are so good once you get good with them
bitter turtle
you havent seen manstoppper knives
agile forge
Ooh, that's another reason to take my kantrael shotgun on my knife pervert
white minnow
sick bastards
old quail
immo nades also suffer from the worst of the 3 starting branches
old quail
they had some strange ideas putting the branch with the least useful toughness regen in the same linear path as martyrdom
tall torrent
Railgun throwing knife is funny and based
midnight totem
Does it cleave through carapace?
bitter turtle
Railgun throwing knife is funny and based
no more getting stuck with perfect strike
tall torrent
no more getting stuck with perfect strike <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Maybe that’s what I needed
bitter turtle
only problem is
tall torrent
I just can’t decide if I want to play Rashad or CB6 on veteran now
bitter turtle
you have to fotf on a naked bruiser horde
in the beginning
or you wont have the kill to activate bloodthirsty
lol
tall torrent
you have to fotf on a naked bruiser horde
That’s not a problem
tall torrent
Is corruption resist noticeable at all
steep nexus
Doesn't sound all that good just on paper
bitter turtle
here's a denser horde than the last one
since the vid got cut off
lol
actually it needs 2 fotfs to start going
tall torrent
U could just L1 > SP > L1
tall torrent
Doesn't sound all that good just on paper
It’s x0.85 for every type of corruption dmg
Mainly useful vs BoN ig
steep nexus
It’s x0.85 for every type of corruption dmg
I feel like from personal experience, corruption damage almost never comes into play in a meaningful fashion
Unless things have gone seriously wrong
bitter turtle
What’s a curio perk that works well with just 1 slot
1x gunner ig
i odnt really like gunner resist much tho
agile forge
Poxwalkers give a little bit too
midnight totem
So corruption resist helps a lot against those
steep nexus
Yeah, but in general, you sholdn't be taking damage from dogs and poxbursters, and if you do, it will usually be negligible
agile forge
Corruption is a bit real in karking twins
faint beacon
Dogs are really the only reason you’ll get chip corruption
agile forge
I've been wondering about corruption resist on psyker in particular
bitter turtle
rog
agile forge
To resist the poxburster 2 shot instant death
bitter turtle
rhere
faint beacon
That or if the game spams Tox Bombers
midnight totem
If you dare to run two grims, corruption resistance is the difference between "you get tapped, you die", and "successful grim run"
faint beacon
I’ve experienced 6 Tox Bombers in play that shit is not fun
midnight totem
Plus yeah, toxic bombers
dreamy spade
And beast of nurgle and chaos spawn
faint beacon
1 or 2 you can get away with not having it
midnight totem
And then there's the corruption aura from a daemonhost
faint beacon
Just fucking when it starts spamming them it gets bad
steep nexus
If you dare to run two grims, corruption resistance is the difference between "y...
Please tell me in what universe people are picking up grims
I will personally visit and cry at them
steep nexus
That's crazy..
steep nexus
And then there's the corruption aura from a daemonhost
These are definitely all enemies you should not be taking corruption from, with maybe the exception of spammed tox bombers
And the amount of corruption you do take will be minimal.. Unless you decide to pick up two grimoires
steep nexus
Why!
faint beacon
If we’re doing a grim run I grab 2
steep nexus
Why!!!
midnight totem
I'd like to say it's a holdover from my Vermintide days
When max scrips, grims was the default
Because loot
midnight totem
But really, I'm a masochist and I enjoy the challenge
radiant chasm
Yea books in DT used to be worthwhile when the mission rewards were crap, but they buffed mission rewards and never buffed books
So basically it’s penance only because melk you just reroll
midnight totem
I mean, it is the duty of the Emperor's Chosen to seek out the enemy's artifacts so we may drop them in a incinerator
agile forge
I mean tbh you shouldn't take damage from anything
But we all have our weaknesses lol
midnight totem
I'm giving the enemy a handicap
faint beacon
I’m giving the enemy a handicap so I can default dance on their dead monstrosity after killing it cause of Corruption putting me at exactly 10 HP
glad spade
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or wep spec?
cause I am not sure how best to play with plasma, and kinda want some input
twin ingot
Heard the new kasrkin helmet apparently has a voice changer like the Scion helme...
I bought it and yes it does
confused the ell out of me
faint beacon
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
Target
twin ingot
feel like they wanted the respirator mask but changed last minute to fit with the warhammer set
agile forge
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
Either
faint beacon
WS you tend to run if you see yourself actually using your melee more
agile forge
They are both great
twin ingot
or just forgot to add the regular cloth filter
agile forge
I use FT with my plasma and WS with my zarona, but WS definitely works for plasma too
elder fiber
Lacerate on knives
tall torrent
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
Focus target is generally the better pick for plasma because it wants 1 tap breakpoints
rocky jacinth
if i see you running lacerate I'm leaving the game
faint beacon
Again that’s mainly if you’re focusing plasma usage more
I can see why you’d run WS if you’re using your melee mainly
serene bough
lacerate is poopoo
last parcel
lacerate my 4skin lmao
serene bough
plsno
hollow warren
bitter turtle
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
tbh i prefer wep spec just bc I rely on melee a lot
both builds work though
fading imp
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
no keystone 
umbral garnet
newbie question, whats generally better for Plasma as keystone? focus target or ...
Depends on the build. Plasma is already solid on its own, but focus target really helps to push the damage output on big targets like Crushers or Monstrosities. Weapon spec is if you want to quickly get rid of a priority target before returning to the immediate hordes around you.
vale ledge
Wish we had a devil claw skin that made it look sorta like a dueling sword-
midnight totem
That's what the weapon mod is for
rocky jacinth
WS has a nice overall effect for high enemy count missions since you get that guaranteed crit, so you can kickstart your chain of plasma shots with gets hot/blaze
and aren't reliant on the mark cooldown for max damage
tall torrent
and aren't reliant on the mark cooldown for max damage
FT is not meant to be used like it has cooldown
rocky jacinth
I know, I just think you overall more out of WS over mark the more enemies there are
the shots pierce and all
tall torrent
FT reaches 1 shot breakpoints that WS need to spend extra points for
bitter turtle
FT is just spam at the minimum 2 stacks usually
tall torrent
so spend them
point cost is a thing and not every build has enough points to spend on everything
plasma also more or less requires u to spec into superiority complex
tall torrent
yea, 1 point tax on longshot
hollow ibex
WS is bae
dawn garnet
power cycler doesnt work on push attacks or am i mistaken
white minnow
doesn't work if it's the 2nd/3rd attack since pushing presumably breaks the chain
dawn garnet
starting to regret spending 10k plasteel on pcycle 4
hallow parrot
hadron requires plasteel and I answer
tall torrent
power cycler doesnt work on push attacks or am i mistaken
Power cycler only works for continuous attacks in a chain
dawn garnet
i can spam it really fast tho 😭
agile forge
PC4 is mostly for the triple light attack
The gap between PC3 and 4 is overrated for PS6
serene bough
why does file verification take so long
tall torrent
why does file verification take so long
DT has like 150k+ files total
serene bough
could've sworn is was much quicker months ago though
wise fossil
Reddit is talking about Ex Stance + Helbore bayonet. Is that an actual interaction or is the poster wrong about the damage boost?
rocky jacinth
power cycler doesnt work on push attacks or am i mistaken
you do get 3 attacks after the push if that's what you mean
you have no reason to repeat push attacks with the ps6 since you get the overhead as a combo
hallow parrot
question: what's the interaction between the PL of the stuff on you vs the PL of the drops you get?
I'm asking because I got a PL360 gun which would increase my PL if brought to orange but it's the same if not slightly worse as the one I'm carrying now
radiant chasm
question: what's the interaction between the PL of the stuff on you vs the PL of...
None
hallow parrot
yay
radiant chasm
The score has no effect on your stats nor does having a higher average in your backpack change anything
What matters is being level 30
wanton dawn
Reddit is talking about Ex Stance + Helbore bayonet. Is that an actual interacti...
Well, one can just try and see
let me 2s
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Reddit is talking about Ex Stance + Helbore bayonet. Is that an actual interacti...
OP started exe at 8 seconds. at 12 seconds this boost is halfway done, which means they took the Marksman talent
radiant chasm
And when crafting items, your base mod score affects weighting so a 380 is more likely (not guaranteed) to roll t4s than a 300 score
wanton dawn
it does not work. End of story
radiant chasm
And this mod score rule only affects crafting
Things from brunts hourly rotation cap at t2 blessings, and items from big E roll everything randomly across the full spread
Hence big E drops are more likely to brick in the highest diffs cause they are mostly likely to brick with the sheer variance they have
And melk has it’s own weighting preferring t3 and t4 but i’m not 100% informed about the system since they last reworked him
wanton dawn
OP started exe at 8 seconds. at 12 seconds this boost is halfway done, which mea...
Bayo is super stronk guys
Just need a lil bit of setup !
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oblique totem
A little bit of set up
plush hound
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wanton dawn
Tbf it is still serviciable for boss killing
somber axle
Weird question
wanton dawn
I miss bm+limbsplitter
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Normal answer
somber axle
What do you all have for your keybind for weapon special?
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f8
somber axle
Do you use the extra mouse buttons
hallow parrot
What do you all have for your keybind for weapon special?
mouse middle
wanton dawn
I have 2 additional button. I use one for special and one for light spam (special spam for bayonet)
somber axle
I've been using F for a while but I'm considering the extra mouse buttons because I just got a gaming mouse
rocky jacinth
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shred rampage babyyy
(some people will say savage sweep don't listen to them)
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I've been using F for a while but I'm considering the extra mouse buttons becaus...
side mouse button does make bayonet spam a lot less annoying
wise fossil
OP started exe at 8 seconds. at 12 seconds this boost is halfway done, which mea...
Isn't that close quarters killzone? Either way, same idea
somber axle
I'm more worried about accidentally hitting it during a fight and my character slamming their Boltgun at air like a clown LOL
wise fossil
It's not ex stance
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Isn't that close quarters killzone? Either way, same idea
they use the same icon
somber axle
But that would be a skill issue on my part while I adjust to extra mouse buttons
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on the buff bar
hallow parrot
I set up redundant controls on my extra mouse buttons but I never use them lol
gilded rock
mouse middle
Say you're not a left click pinger rn
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hallow parrot
even when last weapon bugs out and doesn't switch which is INFURIATING
gilded rock
Oh nm you said q
hallow parrot
battlefield nation
somber axle
https://tenor.com/view/2015-ghost-vines-ghostvines-happypesach-gif-20925939
LMFAO
faint beacon
battlefield nation
Hold Q + Right side of screen to annoy one specific class
“Sanitäter! Im getroffen!” - Average German Empire Sentry Kit gameplay
hallow parrot
come to think of it, the godawful default keybinds might be a reason why people just straight up don't tag
bet most people just leave it out and put weapon special there
somber axle
My current tag keybind is C and I use it often but I'm used to MMORPG raiding so I can comfortably hit more buttons
Spamming tag through a lights out mission to help the team see the silent poxburster walking right at them
Also I think the Kantrael Mk IV Infantry Lasgun may be my current fav to use
It just never ever runs out of ammo even without Shock Trooper