veteran-class

[pseudo fiber]

well now it's only 20 so that's a cope win

[hidden torrent]

Bous

I did it

I made it

Now I have big Iron

[pseudo fiber]

can we see it?

[tall torrent]

cleave dmg stat modifier

[hidden torrent]

I know I know, extremely based

[pseudo fiber]

okay you're cookin

[hidden torrent]

wish the damage was higher but it still 5 shots bosses

so I mean

Only could be nice on Daemonhost

[pseudo fiber]

like you did it?

[hidden torrent]

i'm doing it rn

[pseudo fiber]

nice

[pseudo fiber]

maybe weakened monstrosities too... I'm really struggling here

[sturdy zephyr]

Thank vmuch

[hidden torrent]

i mean i think it would one 2 shot the weakened ones with this build

[pseudo fiber]

anyways I'm done for today

[hidden torrent]

do monsters count as elite?

[bitter turtle]

0nly knocked over 50 for gone bowling

someone kill me

[pseudo fiber]

you gotta get like 3 other taunt ogryns and a high intensity auric damn for that

[hidden torrent]

It's so grossly pink I can't even tell what model it is

I am so excited to try this build out

I am happy to have it, thank you 🙂

[rigid pilot]

Now that's a real trinket I'll pay money for

[tall torrent]

wanna play

[midnight totem]

I did not know that

thanks to you I just blew 1 million dockets

crafted a new near perfect power sword

old power sword

new one

[hidden torrent]

It'll never be as good as my Recon-Las

[tall torrent]

Nice

[midnight totem]

now I basically trade fire team for close and kill

grenade tinker for bring it down

more reliable crusher two shot, more monstrosity damage too

[sturdy zephyr]

So good

[midnight totem]

still retain krak one shot on bulwarks, and my previous ttk on other elites

[bitter turtle]

yeah sure

but im still trying to get

gone bowling

idk what to do

[hidden torrent]

So far I've been saying "you boys ready to see a jumbo killfeed?" before I instakill the boss

It's alot of fun lmao

[tall torrent]

Do u have any other penance u can do

[gilded wraith]

Does "No Respite" still stack? Saw this in some old patch notes "Fixed an issue where the Blessing “No Respite” could stack infinitely", but not sure if that means it no longer stacks, or just doesn't stack infinitely?

[bitter turtle]

twins kill 5 seccond

[pseudo fiber]

that's really easy on sedation

[bitter turtle]

im 70 pts away

so i was gonna

30 from gone bowling

and the extra one it does

30 from twins

10 from psyker 5 more games

nad im done

[rigid pilot]

Used to a long time ago

[tall torrent]

We can do twins no trigger mine

Super low difficulty

[bitter turtle]

sure

[pseudo fiber]

I'm down to help with that if you want

[rigid pilot]

Bonbon die in seconds to no respite lasgun

[tall torrent]

U wanna vc

[gilded wraith]

Gotcha, so the blessing only adds 20% damage, and only if something you shoot is already staggered?

[bitter turtle]

i can listen but not talk

[tall torrent]

That’s fine

[rigid pilot]

If you have mods there's a debuff indicator that will add alot of transparency

[tall torrent]

sure

[rigid pilot]

But in general enemies take for damage while in stagger animation

[tall torrent]

super low difficulty

[bitter turtle]

strike team then?

[tall torrent]

just don't trigger mines

[tall torrent]

2

[rigid pilot]

Goes higher the more staggered they are

Up to a limit of course

[gilded wraith]

Ah, so it can stack, just has a limit now.

[rigid pilot]

It always had a limit with normal enemies, but it didn't have one with bosses lol

[gilded wraith]

That was probalby fun for a bit.

[rigid pilot]

Bosses became bossn't

[bitter turtle]

@tall torrent i crashed

sec

lol

[normal sparrow]

Manymoretry on hi damnation carnival, stick to original area until they mass up?

[rigid pilot]

I ran normal damn, easier because no stupid specials come and ruin your day.

Run back 1 room from my team when I hear horde, find a doorway and spam push

That's how I got mine

[hidden torrent]

my ass hurts after getting fucked by Hadron all night, she bricks everything I have

[bitter turtle]

you know

that's an idea

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/quench-cooling-tom-and-jerry-smarting-back-my-back-hurts-gif-15913126

[bitter turtle]

i might try that next

[normal sparrow]

Thats where i go for grinding stupid penances
Marksman focus? Check
Heavy hitter? Check
Frag bomb? Check
Works for exploding barrel too if you do lower difficulty

[hidden torrent]

seems like experience talking

[leaden hollow]

Made me think of Ogryns

[pseudo fiber]

Nice that went well. Hardest part was killing the damn bot lmfao

[bitter turtle]

ye

thanks for helping again

really appreciate it

[pseudo fiber]

course we're all here for 4500 lmao

[bitter turtle]

lul

i legit think

gone bowling is the hardest class penance

[pseudo fiber]

I agree

genuinely

[midnight totem]

Fucking annoyed

Just did another smelter run

Asked everybody to group up the enemies

At the very end

Psyker starts smite. I ask him to stop. Pulls out his voidstrike staff instead

[bitter turtle]

lol

same thing happened

to me

in dreyko

smited everything

they didntn group up properly/died

suffering

[midnight totem]

Should've vote kicked him. The other two were in a party

They would've done it

[oblique totem]

That sucks.

[rigid pilot]

Too immersed in the game to read chat

[wise fossil]

I genuinely hate the malestrom penance

cannot find a halfway decent game at all

[midnight totem]

which?

[wise fossil]

Whichever causes all these fucking Malice players to try auric maelstroms 😆

[midnight totem]

xD

[midnight totem]

Alrighty, tomorrow

Going to go look for a dedicated party for Gone Bowling and Frenzied Killer

[last parcel]

dedicated to my nuts lmao

[bitter turtle]

lol

actually the most troll team i think i've been with

number cat and I just had to duo a game basically

the ogryn somehow could not stay up for more than around 20 seconds at a time

kept dying and then afked

psyker obv didnt understand how peril worked so also died repeatedly within moments of being picked up

their replacement guy kept joining and leaving repeatedly for no reason

[low oar]

Me when I play psyker for the first time in a while

[hollow ibex]

thanks for the rezzes dood

[bitter turtle]

np

i didnt mind actually

helped me finish half of my remaining res penance

got like 12 that game

[hollow ibex]

played one game with numbers cat where this psyker and ogryn

would keep falling off the map at places where it was really hard to pick them up

like bruh

i'm here fighting 10 crushers, and those dudes are just falling off the map

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bruh-annoyed-gif-21339312

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/in-another-universe-wacky-pun-banana-costume-gif-7458164

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[full nacelle]

I made an alt and got them to level 15 to get the manstopper blessing

4k plasteel later... I still don't have it

how are we still dealing with this shitty crafting system?

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-seethe-mald-cope-seethe-mald-we-cope-seethe-mald-gif-24459955

[rigid pilot]

I spent 10k on a lvl 15 character

[agile forge]

Check the Brunt shop every hour when you are playing

That's how I get my rank 2 blessings

[winged sonnet]

dont even need an ult, just buy lower tier items

[lilac kayak]

Too much effort, I'd rather use an alt to get manstopper albeit at the mercy of the plasteel gods themselves.

[agile forge]

Making an alt is more effort than just checking the brunt shop every time you're back in the mourningstar lmao

[winged sonnet]

I don't get how buying lower tier items from brunt/armoury is less effort than buying the same tier items but on an alt but ey you do you

Blessings etc is based on weapon rating

so you're achieving the same thing with more steps lmao

like brunt is selling me a 310 AR for 6k, that's got a pretty decent chance of giving a t2

on the first consecration

[lilac kayak]

Less effort but more time spent imo to get manstopper if u do it the shop way

I'd rather grind an alt and spam upgrade to get manstopper asap than pray to rngjesus to get t2 manstopper from brunt

[low yacht]

Catachan headphones are back?

[winged sonnet]

Wut, you misread what i said

you're not browsing brunt for the t2

[low yacht]

Palatine MK XIC Cyclops Augment.

[winged sonnet]

you're buying low level items and consecrating them to blue to get the blessing

[low yacht]

Makes it faster I guess

[winged sonnet]

even at level 30, buying the weapon directly off brunt as a grey gives you a rating anywhere between 310-380 or so

[rigid pilot]

310 is not low enough to consistently get T2

Best is still have a lvl15 character

[winged sonnet]

should be if you're only going to blue

and not orange

due to the overall rating

[lilac kayak]

It's nearly impossible to get t2 from a lvl 30 from brunt grey spams

[rigid pilot]

Uh yea I spend 60k plasteel trying it

[agile forge]

Yeah I don't consecrate for t2s

[rigid pilot]

After that I went to get a lvl15 character lmao

[lilac kayak]

Ye me spent 30k trying it as well

[agile forge]

I just check his blue inventory

It refreshes every hour

[winged sonnet]

welp shit bad luck then eh

[rigid pilot]

90k plasteel yea just bad luck

[lilac kayak]

Surely

Tho it sucks that u have to learn things the hard way when some blessings are locked at t2 or t3 for those unique blessings ya know

[wraith flare]

I’m too cool to want t2 blessings

[lilac kayak]

Surely u have never fallen for the blaze away t4 trap

[rigid pilot]

I don't even know why there isn't T4 blaze away

[wraith flare]

It’s silly

[wraith flare]

I haven’t

[lilac kayak]

It's to make ppl mald when they realize there isn't a t4 one after spending 20k plasteels

[wraith flare]

The whole game is silly

[rigid pilot]

It's true

Darktide grimdark game where you play as rejects

But you usually see 4 players dabbing all over atoma with 300 kills each, spamming rmb with stims, vacuum capsule

[woeful ibex]

Drip Update

[austere pine]

how much is the set hat? 700?

i might have an idea

[low yacht]

Eh the zealot makes for a perfect assassin build

It looks pretty clean the mask.

[austere pine]

hardcore latex fetish vibes

[low yacht]

Deathcult baby.

It reminds me heavily of death cult assassins

[austere pine]

ah yes. the literal gasmask latex fetish insert to pander to people who are into it

not saying its bad but it should be known that that's the point of it

[low yacht]

Oh I know

[chilly cobalt]

lmao veteran got ripped of augmetic leg and had to replace it with vostroyan pattern peg leg, holy omnissiah i just cant with it

[austere pine]

how much is the vet hat?

[low yacht]

I mean it says privateer

[woeful ibex]

@austere pine

sorry was playing a match

heres the pics for price

[agile forge]

I mean 99% of everything panders to the american gun fetish anyway

[austere pine]

o hell yeah

[balmy flume]

Psyker drip actually got the chest piece that looks most improvised gang/GC/heretic armour lol

That just MIGHT tempt me to get it, come to think of it.
So all 3 of my classes have proper combat uniforms of some sort without style duplication

[austere pine]

is this the shit or am i delusional?

[elder fiber]

nah its a good look

[radiant chasm]

Looks aggressively mid to me

Generic and on point

[austere pine]

no reason a character should be over the top

[radiant chasm]

Idk, there is nothing distinguishing it

It is the garb you could give to multiple npcs

[elder fiber]

nah sometimes basic/lowkey is good

[austere pine]

i'm thinking of actually getting the chestpiece

because it sort of fits a LC

glorified clothes with a plate shoulder guard smacked on top

[radiant chasm]

We already have a lot of basic/lowkey sets

[elder fiber]

cool lets have even more

[austere pine]

like "i'm a soldier but i'm not leaving in a fucking uniform if i have anything to say about it"

[radiant chasm]

At least the last penance chest piece has some writing on it

(Old og penance set)

[austere pine]

I love being a cadian!

(no i don't. every base game set looks the fucking same)

[radiant chasm]

The green most expensive docket set

Is what i use

Then slap on the scion helm

[austere pine]

i can't with the stupid shoes

she boot too big!

[radiant chasm]

It’s the kickers

If you ever works in some environments you would learn to respect big boot

[austere pine]

nah i love big boot

but these look

not

great

for anything, really

[radiant chasm]

Personally would not step into the torrent without something like those

[austere pine]

there's 2 joints. no way that's comfortable to walk in

[radiant chasm]

Imagine getting super nurgled feet cause you wore some cheap ass shoes

[finite carbon]

Walk barefoot into torrent to build immunity

[austere pine]

there's no immunity to nurgle

[finite carbon]

That's what they said about polio

[radiant chasm]

There is immunity in faith

And a deep cleansing process after every mission

[hidden torrent]

There is if you don't believe in him so much that it causes daemons pain to be around you

[wild vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-yucko-gif-9447669

[hoary horizon]

MAH BOOTS!

[austere pine]

you can still catch a mean-ass flu that turns you into a zombie

[hidden torrent]

We just built different, we're fighting some shit that should instantly poxwalker us

[hidden torrent]

Also chainaxe has one of the best sounding saws

[hoary horizon]

true, but it wonky

[austere pine]

chain sword when you hold heavy

[hidden torrent]

It sounds better, chainsword sounds like a weed whacker, chain are actually sounds like a small saw

What would make the chain weapons feel better is if the enemies screamed while you sawed them as well

[velvet storm]

whats a good infantry lasgun build

[austere pine]

primer says go for these

what do you want out of the build?

[velvet storm]

Idk

[austere pine]

what do you like doing in the game

[velvet storm]

shooting things

[austere pine]

cuz if you just want gun

holup

[velvet storm]

Killing other ranged beings

from long rasnge

[austere pine]

can you hit heads?

[slate hawk]

I am bias but the plasma gun can shoot many things from long range

[near sable]

da hh mkiv..

[bitter turtle]

try ilas mg1

[midnight totem]

The only cosmetic this time I like is the recolored mask

But I'm not sure I can use it

[agile forge]

If you want an infantry lasgun the 1a is the gold standard

4 is ok but very spammy

12 is a little worse than it was before, doesn't gain much significantly over 1a

If you want stuff that behaves kinda similarly, also consider the mark 7 headhunter autogun, the laspistols (either of them), and the helbore lasguns (slower, stronger chargeable, worse sights, decent or fantastic bayonet)

[wild vortex]

Laspistols fun

Anyone have a left side and right side build for Vet? For the penances

[midnight totem]

Which ones you going for

[sinful swallow]

revolver

every time you swap to it should be +1 for swap crit kill

[velvet storm]

im using the green one

cause it's green

[midnight totem]

If you don't have a good zarona, be aware that 1. Headhunters and Plasma work fine

2. Melee crit headshot kills also count

[sinful swallow]

devil claw 4 has finesse anyways so can crit good, shred etc

[bitter turtle]

left side is crab walk and melee horde at 10 stacks

right side you can play laspistol sif you odnt want to play revolver

[wild vortex]

What gun(s) for left side?

[midnight totem]

Anything really

[wise fossil]

mostly melee, scab only maelstrom
Zealot is running evi & martyrdom
Zealot gets downed A LOT

every time zealot gets picked back up, he hits barrels near him

to proc Martrydom

💀

[candid agate]

i dont get it, whats wrong with scab only

is there something im missing

[tall torrent]

Scab only mostly melee has the “no ammo spawn” addition

And it spawns a very high amount of heavily armored enemies

[bitter turtle]

basically

[willow badger]

havent played in a few months or so. any big changes or good builds that ppl run now? prev I ran powersword, shoutvet

[bitter turtle]

martyr suicide evis is a meme there

need fotf to actually kill anything so killing yourself on purpose is dumb

wont really make ad ifference

not that its usually a good idea to do that for martyr anyway

[wanton dawn]

still is the meta

But if you run plasma/ps you can make any build work

[velvet storm]

whats good talent build for lasgun

Is there a guide/document thing where someone goes over everything

[terse idol]

Check dis out #veteran-class message

Also Exe and MF

[bitter turtle]

choose a blitz

choose an ability

choose a keystone

[terse idol]

With supporting talents builds ain't bad

[bitter turtle]

ill just make one

[tall torrent]

Updated version WIP

[midnight totem]

finally got gone bowling

needed a high int

[willow badger]

goddamn i'm rusty

first game back was a malice and shit kinda spicy

[candid agate]

what blessing should i replace the salvo one with

[pseudo fiber]

dumdum

[candid agate]

thanks

[hidden torrent]

For Bullseye, can you only shoot the blue bottles? like you can't hit any others yeah?

[somber axle]

I'd recommend Headhunter if you're going for crit synergy with Shock Trooper for better ammo economy

[pseudo fiber]

Yes only the blue bottles

[hidden torrent]

aight

[velvet storm]

Is there any particular way to quickly get through penances

I wanna get the final tier blue armor

It kinda cool looking

[hidden torrent]

No not really, you just have to do them

[velvet storm]

I've just been doing auric missions

[pseudo fiber]

play each class

[velvet storm]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-7tv-gif-17891567587089381962

[pseudo fiber]

do all the missions on auric damnation

get all the skulls

etcetc

[candid agate]

my build can only fit one: determined, precision strikes and deadshot, but idk which one to use

[tall torrent]

Yea
Do class penances and play auric

I’ve had Moebian 6th Armor for a while

[velvet storm]

Skulls?

[hearty panther]

precision imo since its global

[candid agate]

thanks

[pseudo fiber]

the martyr skulls in all the levels

[tall torrent]

Depends on what his melee is, determined might be better since recon has horrible finesse

[velvet storm]

The green glowing things that whisper and give you plasteel?

[pseudo fiber]

No they're behind a puzzle

[tall torrent]

No, puzzle related

Each map has a specific puzzle

[velvet storm]

Oh

[tall torrent]

Except orthus offensive

[velvet storm]

Wouldn't it be annoying to do those puzzles if your team doesn't care to

Or are they quick

[pseudo fiber]

they don't take too long

a minute at most some take like... 2... minutes

[velvet storm]

Buh

[tall torrent]

Most are short and can be done solo

[velvet storm]

Okay

[tall torrent]

Some are a lot longer

Archivum sycorax

Vigil station

[pseudo fiber]

isn't it magistrat oubilette

[hidden torrent]

That one requires 2

Sycorax requires 2 as well

I think?

[pseudo fiber]

yeah that's it though

[tall torrent]

Vigil station is solo but u have a risk of falling off the map

So it’s best duo

[velvet storm]

I wish there was a mod that let you change the color of your weapons

I wanna use yellow lasgun but have green color

[somber axle]

I personally use Deadshot but I'm a clown so only follow in my footsteps if you feel the clown shoes fit. Determined helps the Recons immensely for dealing with enemy ranged trash but with a bunch of dodging and Deadshot I've not found the suppression to be a big deal for consistently hitting targets at a distance even when under enemy fire. I don't use Precision Strikes on my Recon personally so idk about that one

[last parcel]

kid named for the drip:

[cosmic stump]

when it comes to the base scavenger perk

do I lose that perk if I chose any aura besides survivalist?

[pseudo fiber]

yes

[cosmic stump]

thanks

[orchid hemlock]

what does the vet master say about curio main stats?

[rapid palm]

gunner resittance is obviously a must

[orchid hemlock]

Main stats

[hollow ibex]

Two toughness and one stamina is the default

[orchid hemlock]

[hidden torrent]

I have 3 wounds on guardsmen

[north raptor]

you will be fine without survivalist/scavenger

[hidden torrent]

Sedition gang rise up

[orchid hemlock]

all of the top builds I see on the website say 3 tough tho

i assume they dont know what they are talking about?

[radiant chasm]

Curios lean into playstyle

Everyone plays a bot different so use what works for you

[orchid hemlock]

im trying to optimize my curios atm so Im trying to figure out to prioritize the mainstats and then the sub stats

i have a bunch

[radiant chasm]

I go 2 tough one hp because i feel vets base hp is too low so the 21+ 15 from minor perks gives me a buffer before i lose my only wound

[hidden torrent]

3 stam curios on Ogryn

[radiant chasm]

Yee, unlike weapons with clearcut best, curios come down to playstyle and even build

[orchid hemlock]

this is what I have atm

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

[hollow ibex]

The website is full of shit as usual

[radiant chasm]

I dont like combat ability regen

Simply put talent cdr is always better and invalidates it

[orchid hemlock]

but I like screaming my lungs out 😔

[radiant chasm]

And builds without cdr like martyrdom zealot aren’t itching for a 12% off a 30 second cd

[radiant chasm]

Yee but with cd on kill talent you dont need it, it isnt meaningful

[orchid hemlock]

what should I replace it with then?

[radiant chasm]

Flat tough or flat hp

[orchid hemlock]

what about regen?

[radiant chasm]

I dont think 3x tough is bad on vet

[radiant chasm]

Only coherency regen is affected by curio toughness regen

Besides ogryns who can take a lot of chip and coherency bonuses, it’s not worth going imo

[orchid hemlock]

what about stam regen?

[radiant chasm]

It’s good and good with deadshot

Especially with - stam regen delay talents

Not what i go tho

[tall torrent]

1 toughness
1 toughness/health
1 stamina

[orchid hemlock]

[radiant chasm]

Just like my love life, i don’t need stamina

[tall torrent]

I personally run 2 toughness 1 stamina

But I play knife so

[radiant chasm]

Yee there is a small subsection of zealots that stack hp

Because of restoring faith

Making Hp 25% more effective

[torpid grotto]

Is vet toughness just so big that scaling with with curio is better

[hollow ibex]

Vet likes toughness yeah

[radiant chasm]

High toughness, and good toughness dr options

[orchid hemlock]

i thought the reason vets stack tough is because of iron will

[tall torrent]

If you think from the perspective of minimizing dmg then toughness is better

[tall torrent]

Partially that

[radiant chasm]

I still like one hp buffer so im not set to black and white with one misplay

[tall torrent]

But also because veteran has a couple toughness dmg breakpoints

Like tanking a sniper shot

[radiant chasm]

Or getting fucked cause teammates picked up curios

[radiant chasm]

Old Rambo vet casually tanking multiple sniper shots was something to behold

As long as you had elites and spec to feed ck you could eat sniper rounds

[midnight totem]

Sly marbo vet

[tall torrent]

Lore accurate veteran

[orchid hemlock]

im not sure which one to pick

im leanign towards health

because stam regen

[radiant chasm]

Blessing from nurgle ? Nah. Blessing from the emperor? Maybe. Blessing of being too angry to die? That’s cutthroat

[tall torrent]

Health is prob easier for beginners since you can afford maybe 1 more mistake with the extra health

[radiant chasm]

If you have spare melk coins spend them on the 250 curio gatcha

[tall torrent]

Vet’s health scaling isn’t that good tho

[radiant chasm]

Gacha

[torpid grotto]

Vet with no stam curio feels bad

[radiant chasm]

No im not joking

[orchid hemlock]

all gone 😔

[radiant chasm]

Thats how i have bis curios

They are way easier to craft so basically you only need the main stat high rolled

[orchid hemlock]

used them all for perfect ogryn crurios

[tiny summit]

Curios are so inconsequential that buying ok ones from brunt is fine

[hidden torrent]

I will spend 10000 melk tokens on Curios rn

[orchid hemlock]

why is stam important to vet?

[radiant chasm]

You can’t buy em from brunt unless you mean the hourly shop

But i’ve only gotten like

[last parcel]

spending all your melkbucks on curios guarantees power cycler 4 to show up

[tall torrent]

Mostly just bad stamina regen unless u take specific talents to fix that

[radiant chasm]

2 good curios from the hourly shop

[hidden torrent]

no

[tiny summit]

Yea. Again. They are so inconsequential that getting ok ones from brunt is fine

I just say brunt because it's the shop

[orchid hemlock]

but I have stam regen on all curios

[radiant chasm]

Brunt makes me think of the new service sorry

[torpid grotto]

So how does total stamina effect stam regen

[orchid hemlock]

or is that not enough?

[tiny summit]

New Darktide gacha ritual. Spend 10k melk coins before every PS upgrade

[hidden torrent]

I would flex in front of brunt if he was around, but he's too much of a coward to get out mogged

[tall torrent]

Yea and that’s still worse than zealot’s base stamina regen

Lmao

[orchid hemlock]

[tall torrent]

Zealot’s base stamina regen is 0.75s delay, 1.5/s

Veteran’s base stamina regen is 1s delay, 1/s

So with triple +12% stam regen on curios you get 1.36/s

Still worse than zealot

[radiant chasm]

And if you stack all the stam talents on that

Do math now nerd /j

[tall torrent]

Stam regen boost gives u -0.25s delay

[orchid hemlock]

what about base stam?

[tall torrent]

Veteran has less than zealot too

1 bar less

Although practically usually same

[orchid hemlock]

i assume block efficiency and sprint eff are still decent

[tiny summit]

Actual stam regen ass. Focus Target and Duck And Dive stam regen good.

[orchid hemlock]

because they all have 3rds 😔

[radiant chasm]

Yee isnt there like 3?

[tall torrent]

2

Most builds I take 1

[radiant chasm]

Im a zealot we are bad at math

[tall torrent]

[tiny summit]

Gotta study the blade more than math

[orchid hemlock]

ok how about now?

[tall torrent]

This is usable

[radiant chasm]

While you studied math, i studied the chaxe

[tiny summit]

Realistically they are all fine

Not like anyone's run is gonna be ruled by a 17% toughness curio vs a 16% one

[fair river]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-bird-legs-gif-7418853116988366584

[tiny summit]

And it's still meta

[candid agate]

what is it with columnus weapons being overpowered

[orchid hemlock]

which of the 2 is better for the stam curio?

[tall torrent]

Columnus mk2 is not overpowered

[orchid hemlock]

i think they mean the mk5

[tiny summit]

Columnus brauto kinda underwhelming

[tall torrent]

Prob 2nd?

[orchid hemlock]

i can change the blessings remember

[tiny summit]

Neither. It's personal preference at this point

[orchid hemlock]

so basically the difference is the third bless is either sprint or gunner

[tiny summit]

Yea it's what you want

As long as you don't get like grimoire resist, curio perks are inconsequential

I run dockets on all of mine

[orchid hemlock]

i personally think that 5% more on gunner is more useful

[tall torrent]

Same

[orchid hemlock]

more dockets more money

[tall torrent]

The real curio meta is +30% dockets

[tiny summit]

[fair river]

Who gives a damn about ordo

I want plasteel

[midnight totem]

I need both

[radiant chasm]

Plasteel curios when?

[orchid hemlock]

i need a new update fatshark 🧍🏻

[midnight totem]

I blew my bank on a nearly perfect ps

[tiny summit]

Darktide is a gacha game. You pay with your time and sanity in crafting

[midnight totem]

Blowing money?

Never heard that phrase?

[tall torrent]

WH skulls on May 23rd

[midnight totem]

Anyway. So happy I finally got gone bowling

[tiny summit]

Oh it was to the deleted message lmao

[midnight totem]

Now I need frenzied killer 3

[last parcel]

gone blowing

[tall torrent]

Blaze trauma / purgatus and camp spawn

[midnight totem]

Where's the best spawn camp

[tall torrent]

Enclavum baross first event

Just camp one side

[midnight totem]

I'm almost positive I have done that a few times

Though just with melee before

[tall torrent]

U need very high cleave to kill everything at around the same time

[midnight totem]

So they respawn faster

[hidden torrent]

I used to scream interally doing these penances

now it's external

[tall torrent]

As a Moebian 6th armor haver I can empathize

[hidden torrent]

it was more fun grinding out the class penances

now I have to do 15 more tox gas missions POGGERS

the most interactive modifier

[tall torrent]

I never did that many pox gas missions

You can skip a lot of stuff tbh

[hidden torrent]

I have a lot of private missions to do

but aint no one on rn

[orchid hemlock]

wait i forgot to ask, why not 3 tough curios?

[tall torrent]

Because +3 stam helps u manage stamina better

Sprint longer, more push atks, etc

[stoic basalt]

Speaking of pennances how are you supposed to use the Marksman talent? It feels really anti "what the game is" to me, in every single fight you really can not just stand still, you have to move but that removes the marksman stacks? I feel like I am not doing something right, any advice on how to use that perk?

[tall torrent]

Headshot kills give 6s where stacks can’t drop in movement

You need to chain headshot kills together basically

[stoic basalt]

Oh? I am assuning my bad aim it the problem there then, need to keep in mind "head shot => reposition" thanks

[torpid grotto]

Is stam worth it on zealot

[tall torrent]

It’s alright

Depends

If u like desperation (+20% dmg for 5s on reaching 0 stamina) then u prob won’t want it

[torpid grotto]

When u can go more hp

[tall torrent]

I honestly run toughness over health on all of my characters lol

[torpid grotto]

I used to do that because I didnt know bleed through was a thing

[hidden torrent]

I actually like health more than toughness of Ogryn

[torpid grotto]

I thought toughness was halo shields

[hidden torrent]

Because you can refill toughness almost instantly on Ogryn that losing it is no big deal imo

[last parcel]

im using anarchist for the armor gating

[torpid grotto]

Ogryn toughness amt is so baby I need 2 curios

[hidden torrent]

I don't have any on Ogryn

[torpid grotto]

I can see just scaling hp and absorbing the chip damage

[hidden torrent]

I have all 3 health with health secondary traits on the curios

that's true tho

[torpid grotto]

Do you just accept the chip from medicar to medicae

[hidden torrent]

I don't get very much unless I get disabled

or just stand in fire like an asshole

[torpid grotto]

Really I get chipped on og all the time

[stoic basalt]

My faith is my shield

[hidden torrent]

You only really take HP damage when Horribly out of position

[torpid grotto]

If you arent at 100% toughness you take chip

[hidden torrent]

I'm always at 100 unless I'm out of position and gunners are shooting me

You can just hit 2 enemies and regain all toughness

[radiant chasm]

If i go full hp on ogryn i take 90% toughness regen on curios as well

[radiant chasm]

Only from melee and specific ranged attacks like sniper

[torpid grotto]

Yeah

[radiant chasm]

Ogryn of any kind is really safe in melee

[torpid grotto]

The slow action speed always makes me get disabled

[radiant chasm]

Their dodges work the same for disablers/specials

They just seem slower cause they are bigger

[torpid grotto]

The attacks come out slower?

[radiant chasm]

You can also see this sprinting and ogryn and human without speed buffs

[last parcel]

punch the net out of the air

[radiant chasm]

Well yea the attacks are a bit slower but you can still dodge lol

They have big cleave and stagger to compensate for slow attack speed

Most of ogryns chip damage taken should be ranged attacks

[torpid grotto]

I tend of focus on hitting my big slow attacks and miss the pouncing dog push

Tend to

[radiant chasm]

Toughness regen covers that

[radiant chasm]

But

Pushing is an animation cancel

[hidden torrent]

if you have any trouble

throw a rock

[radiant chasm]

Or just, release the swing and kill the dog in mid air

[last parcel]

rock

[torpid grotto]

I wonder why og feels so much more disabler prone then

Just bigger?

[radiant chasm]

Different pacing probably

You can only practice ogg on ogg

[torpid grotto]

Yeah

[radiant chasm]

The other classes share the same pacing

[torpid grotto]

I got the flow for a few matches but I lost it

[radiant chasm]

But you shouldnt be pinned more than other classes once you get used to it

[torpid grotto]

Its kinda like playing heavy in tf2 lol

[radiant chasm]

I started on ogg so maybe thats why i dont have a problem with it

[torpid grotto]

It felt like letting the enemies come to you more

Is that how u play

[radiant chasm]

depends for me

For my club build yea

I need big charged heavies

For big sweeps and haymaker

[last parcel]

it costs 40,000 plasteel to fire this weapon

for 12 seconds

[radiant chasm]

For glugger? Nah i just play like big vet

You dont always need to hold heavies either

Sometimes its better to be faster

[torpid grotto]

Thats why my fav weapon is the mk3 shovel :3

[stoic basalt]

Wqit going back to the marksman headshot thing is that 6 second grace only on elite kills or any head shot?

[last parcel]

any weak point kill

just a shot without killing only gives 3s

[stoic basalt]

Ok cool ty, I know the stacks only come from elites/specialists so didnt know if it extended to that as well

[hidden torrent]

fake

[last parcel]

marksman focus stacks can come from any kill as long as it’s a ranged weapon

[hidden torrent]

just use stand still skill and kill hordes

way way faster

[stoic basalt]

Wait a minute what? Im using that perk with the highlight target perks, picking off shooters left and right and I am not gonna claim I am getting headshots left and right, Im no where close to being that cool, but I pop sone heads every now and then and I dont get stacks, the only time I noticed stacks was from elites?

I am really doing something wrong

[tiny summit]

Marksman Focus stacks are either gained from ANY ranged weakspot kills or camo node

So yes. Poxwalker horde can be MF stack fodder

[stoic basalt]

Ok I need to go redo my stuff and reallt look at what I had set up once im off shift, I wanna know what I was messing up

[cosmic stump]

is relentless bugged or something? Killing some highlighted enemies does not refresh the CD of Executioner stance

[stoic basalt]

Is that the zealot perk for the dash attack?

[tiny summit]

Haven't played in a bit. Would be a pretty serious bug if the refresh talent just didn't work

[cosmic stump]

only killing these mob refesh the CD of ES

killing any other highlighted enemies doesn't do anything

[tall torrent]

if ur talking cooldown, that's not what relentless does

that's tactical awareness

relentless extends exe stance duration

[cosmic stump]

ah I see

thanks

[wild vortex]

Exe stance works well with Kantrael MG Ia?

Or do I need to find me a Vraks

[tall torrent]

yes

[wild vortex]

Pog

[tall torrent]

but it's prob veteran's weakest ability rn

[wild vortex]

I'd try Infiltrate but I think I need to git more gud before I play that

Also

How THE FUCK does my Vet have more toughness than my Ogryn

That's like.. illogical

[midnight totem]

Vets are tough

[hidden torrent]

Cadians live for battle

[tall torrent]

lore accurate veteran

[hidden torrent]

prayer

and vengeance

[midnight totem]

How'd that work out for Cadia

[hidden torrent]

Extremely well

[idle swallow]

planet broke before the veterans did

[hidden torrent]

Considering how many failed crusades there were

That would mean guardsman stopped space marines on Cadia, for 12 crusades, and much worse too

Sound like Chad's to me

[midnight totem]

True

Though not all of the crusades were aimed at Cadia

[hidden torrent]

Doesn't mean they weren't dealing with incursions though, chaos has always been overwhelming numbers

You don't see a planet fall to 15 guys too often

[midnight totem]

Personally I think we could put Abbadon in this game

We'll set four ogryns on him

[hidden torrent]

Luscious the eternal so he can die stepping on a landmine

[midnight totem]

With shovels

[tall torrent]

darktide veterans have fought every faction in the 40k setting except necrons, canonically speaking

[hidden torrent]

Until now

[tall torrent]

(I never heard them mention necrons ever)

[hidden torrent]

What a sick reveal that would he

[tall torrent]

but they mention every other faction

[hidden torrent]

So you're saying there's a chance

[tall torrent]

don't think they'll live long enough to fight necrons lol

[languid dune]

Friend's trying to convince me that the power swords aren't very good and that the devil's claws are way better

[hidden torrent]

Necrons are kinda like Tzeentch of the material universe

[languid dune]

I mean they're good but not that good

[tall torrent]

atoma prime is definitely not a tombworld

[hidden torrent]

I don't mean that, I mean that, well, they just kinda show up and do things for reasons from the imperium eyes don't always make sense

But tbh only way we're seeing necrons literally ever is if we see Nids

I'm not sure where the Moebian domain is in terms of the galaxy tho

[tall torrent]

northwest I think?

somewhere not too far from cadian gate

[midnight totem]

Darktide vets are pretty much at Karskin or Stormtrooper levels of skill

[hidden torrent]

Far above that

[midnight totem]

Named stormtroopers levels

[tall torrent]

ok around that yea

[hidden torrent]

Being able to 1v1 pogryns and chaos spawns is crazy

And if you have a big iron you can delete Daemon hosts with the right build

Something named inquistors struggle with

[midnight totem]

I do want to to fight a plague marine eventually

I have a very good idea of how the fight should go

[stuck gorge]

plague marine would be cool to see so we finally have a 4th boss just like vermintide does (DH barely counts)

[tall torrent]

we're getting at best a chaos sorcerer

[hidden torrent]

While we could pretty easily take some random no name space marine with the same difficulty as a crusher, it doesn't really fit the theme of Darktide so they're never gonna add a CSM

[midnight totem]

Basically, set him in an arena with lots of cover and broken line of sight. He moves slow (plague marine), but has very high ranged damage

Like a reaper on drugs

[hidden torrent]

Want to know an easy way to beat thet

Tauntgryn

With shield

[midnight totem]

Make him immune to taunt

[hidden torrent]

Why

No other bosses are

[midnight totem]

Because he's a space marine with a bolter

[hidden torrent]

Imma be real with you boss, he would die instantly

[midnight totem]

Of course he will

[hidden torrent]

There's too many ways to do a Gorillian damage

[midnight totem]

We'll have a team of zealots half hour into his release "world first" kill

[hidden torrent]

He would get 1 shot by thunder hammer tbh

Shroudfield thunder hammer

If you had 4 thunder hammers hit a CSM he would die anyways, lore accurate

[midnight totem]

I'd make a mechanic where the team gets canisters of holy water

And they detonate them near the plague marine to make him susceptible to damage

[tall torrent]

nurgle's blessing + thousands of years of combat experience vs getting repeatedly shot in the head by a plasma gun

[hidden torrent]

Even in lore 1 plasma gun will pretty much delete a space marine

They just aren't common

Soon as he's named of course he's basically Goku

[midnight totem]

We'll call him

Burblespew Halescourge

[torpid grotto]

Inshallah plasma gun will be nerfed.

[hidden torrent]

Plasma gun should just do what it's supposed to lmao

[tall torrent]

yea, nerf cleave

dmg isn't gonna get changed much

[hidden torrent]

Rn plasma would cleave through 4 leman rus battletanks

[wild vortex]

Lemon Rusk

[somber axle]

Nerf the ammo efficiency even more for uncharged shots post survival aura change and let me witness the despair

change charged shots to cost 6 ammo instead of 9, change charged shots to cost 6 ammo instead of 3

[hidden torrent]

I would still use plasma even if I could only shoot it 5 times total

Because I like the gameplay

[torpid grotto]

The gun should be based around charging up shots imo

Give it risk/reward with the heat system and unique identity

[somber axle]

You would immediately aggro every Plasma main with the change but it would at last make charged shots relevant again

[tame lodge]

That would be another Plasma Mk because FS

[tall torrent]

no

4 instead of 3

[hidden torrent]

They'll review bomb darktide, current plasma vets are old PS vets

[tall torrent]

6 instead of 3 is absurd

[somber axle]

People would still spam uncharged shots when there are lots of high priority threats scattered about a room but for beefier targets and particularly tougher threats people would go charged shots if they have the time/safety

[torpid grotto]

Its lame to have this giant glowing coil gun but charging it up is useless

[tall torrent]

reduce charge shot ammo cost to 6, increase reg shot ammo cost to 4
and nerf reg shot cleave to 8

[hidden torrent]

What if you made charge time longer, do more damage but take the same ammo

[torpid grotto]

Uncharged shots should do nothing to carapace, and have a weaker looking tracer to match that 🧠

[hidden torrent]

Big think

[somber axle]

Review bombing doesn't work LMFAO the only thing that Helldivers 2 community did is prove their attention spans are short and they don't understand legal speak because the PSN account linking was written as "not going forward" and not "stopped". They still plan to. The real hurdle was always the legal one in the European Union with the EU suing them for fraud. Look at Helldivers 2 as far as what countries you can buy it in now and see that Sony has already made it so it is unavailable to purchase in all the countries not supported by PSN. They're setting up to roll out the PSN account linking at a later date and are just doing this to appease the EU legal teams and briefly get Helldivers 2 players to reverse their negative reviews and rebuy the game

[tall torrent]

u can only 1 shot an enemy so hard

[somber axle]

CEO of Arrowhead is fighting a losing battle trying to convince Sony to stop

Sony is going to do as they please and people will review bomb again later to absolute crickets from Sony corporate

[hidden torrent]

If I don't get what I want then I will review bomb

[last parcel]

fuck review bomb

all my homies fire bomb

[somber axle]

Corporate suits couldn't care less about players review bombing LMFAO

[torpid grotto]

Cleave keeps increasing with charge time, unlimited charge time 🧠

[somber axle]

it's not a blip on their radars

[hidden torrent]

You just have to make charge time sufficiently long, but not too long, to make the player have a deliberate choice based on circumstance

[somber axle]

I'd accept that change too just to improve ammo efficiency on charged shots and make uncharged shots less efficient

[hidden torrent]

Tomato bomb

[somber axle]

that pain will be something the average plasma player feels

[last parcel]

mmmmm

[somber axle]

but skilled players will not care either way

[candid agate]

does my 500kg bomb on their headquarters count as a blip?

[somber axle]

did you see the video of a pigeon shitting on the Sony headquarters logo LMFAO

[candid agate]

thats an omen if it isnt anything else

[hidden torrent]

You have to cater to average players in modern gaming, those are your whales who buy every skin to keep alongside their funko pop collection

[somber axle]

the average gamer has long since moved on from Darktide tbh

[tall torrent]

you already 1 tap most enemies with charged shots that increasing dmg further kinda doesn't mean much

[somber axle]

you have the people who enjoy the game either because it's fun or out of a weird sense of sunk cost fallacy still stuck here

[tall torrent]

u can only 1 shot an enemy so hard

[somber axle]

if you're not having fun then you know which you are

[hidden torrent]

It gives you the potential to bring a wider range of melee weapons yeah?

[tall torrent]

not rly

[hidden torrent]

They come back every update and buy more skins

[last parcel]

charged shots should make your vet moan in pleasure

[tall torrent]

because you already achieve the 1 tap charged shot with pretty minimal talent point spending

[hidden torrent]

That's why it's profitable to have a short dev time

[somber axle]

yeah but fairweather gamers are not what balance is tailored around

[hidden torrent]

I do irl when I fire the plasma already

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-master-fallout-fallout1-gif-25672301

[tall torrent]

the funniest thing u can do with charged shots is to make them scale in dmg based on heat level

like, give a new blessing

every 1% heat gives +1/2/3/4% ranged power via charged shots

embrace living life on the edge

[hidden torrent]

In an ideal world you can do both, but you have to have a game that's sufficiently accessible, like all the "reddit single father's who have 11 minutes to play a day so they should be able to use MTX to progress faster"

Those same mindset of gamers

[hidden torrent]

Was gonna suggest something similar earlier

[tall torrent]

at 70% heat this would give charged shots +280% ranged power

u blast half a boss's health away in 1 hit

[hidden torrent]

Boss deleting gun

[midnight totem]

Perfect

[hidden torrent]

Would be a good meme tbh

[tall torrent]

if they wanna do the funny this is the funniest way to go imo

[somber axle]

I don't think Darktide has any accessibility troubles tbh. It's more that there are so many amazing games out there to play to compete with. Why play Darktide if you're a Fortnite gamer? Why play Darktide if your friends are all in on playing Helldivers 2? Why play Darktide if you have very little time between work/family/friend life and need to devote game time to raid time in WoW/FF14? People drop in and drop out for updates because there are so many games out there doing so many things that to limit yourself to just one game forever just makes for a bitter person who doesn't know how much more fun it is out there doing other things

Darktide is a very easy drop in and drop out game

Low time commitment

[tall torrent]

yea cuz charged shots can blow up

so u have to ride a line between risk & reward

[hidden torrent]

100% should still let you shoot once and blow up after

[somber axle]

25-40 min match vs Helldivers 2 people trying to do multiple missions in an operation that can each take 15-30 minutes depending on how completionist squads want to be with a map

[midnight totem]

Play Darktide because we are clowns. Duh

[somber axle]

EXACTLY

I am clown and I like dancing so here I am

[hidden torrent]

I'm more memeing on the current state of gaming more so than anything else but I understand what you mean

[wild vortex]

I think that applies more to HD2 - it's an easier game straight up

[hidden torrent]

NOT TODAY

[wild vortex]

eh?

[tall torrent]

yea uh idk abt that

[hidden torrent]

Smh

[wild vortex]

oh the audio line lol

[hidden torrent]

Doesn't even get the hd2 reference

[wild vortex]

yeah you can actually, legitimately solo much of it even at 8s / 9s

[midnight totem]

HD2 is easier. Until you drop into firestorm with 7 gunship in the air

[somber axle]

sure on lower difficulties where operations are just 1 mission but on higher difficulties when operations are 3 missions and you have to do 2 evacs + a missile launch when you have a squad who wants to clear all bases and do all side objectives it becomes a lot more of a time sink

[hidden torrent]

Hd2 also burned out my GPU

So there's that

Lmao

[midnight totem]

Oof

[wild vortex]

it can be a time sink yeah. But being easier makes it doable

[somber axle]

I do it all the time. One quick game before work, one quick game after work. I can drop Darktide for months and come back riding the unicycle while juggling because you never forget how to ride a bike so you never forget how to do a clown dance either

[midnight totem]

You know, I hope my laptop lasts. It gets pretty hot when playing

[last parcel]

MON VIE POUR SUPER TERRE

[hidden torrent]

I want to be challenged, mentally, in a way that isn't a test of patience

[somber axle]

Darktide just has a learning curve

[hidden torrent]

It feels like all hard games are anymore is a test of patience more so than skill

[somber axle]

Once you've learned, you know the game and can drop in as you please

[stoic basalt]

Gotta take dance lessons

[tall torrent]

DT is very high skill ceiling, very low skill floor

[last parcel]

dancing queen

[hidden torrent]

French Canadian dies of cringe or should I say, French Cadian

[last parcel]

young and sweet

[oblique totem]

French Cadia, gone but not forgor

[hidden torrent]

We never forgor about French cadia 💀

[last parcel]

abbadon was an angl*phone

[hidden torrent]

Of fuck he was an angle

Shit I hope he was a triangle

I-sauce-oleese

[oblique totem]

Everything goes back to the seven years war.

[hidden torrent]

Bro I feel the adhd boiling in my blood

@last parcel is literally a tick for my adhd

[last parcel]

it's me

hi

i'm the problem it's me

[oblique totem]

@last parcel bug confirmed

[hidden torrent]

Real and true

[oblique totem]

You're right at home in Darktide

[hidden torrent]

My Brain rock creeps in when they're around

Rot

My point exactly

[somber axle]

Yeah but not everyone wants to or even cares to try to hit that skill ceiling tbh. I think the average player is either a Malice/Heresy junkie that is testing the waters on standard Damnation. The Auric Damnation Maelstrom only crowd are probably less than 10% of the Darktide population if I had to guess

[oblique totem]

ADHD is a hell of a drug

[hidden torrent]

I took adderal today too

[oblique totem]

Speaking of which, I have taken to using the catachan claw as my melee weapon.

[hidden torrent]

Spoke French for 1 second now I'm walking around saying Vive La France

Which reminds me of Holdfast

Which now im saying Long Liebe DE König

[last parcel]

GIVE EM STEEL LADS

[oblique totem]

It. Didn't go well.

[hidden torrent]

First Böer war be like

[oblique totem]

Tally ho, lads!

Bayonet charge.

[hidden torrent]

For King and Country

Those British mfs better be saying that shit again

That line goes hard

[oblique totem]

Well. Not for long.

[hidden torrent]

Bros making threats

[oblique totem]

Look. I'm American. I am inescapably drawn to oppose the crown.

It's in my blood

[hidden torrent]

Crown Royale

With cheese

[oblique totem]

Because they use the metric system

[hidden torrent]

UK mfs say we use the wrong system and say only an American would invent it

Meanwhile they invented it

[oblique totem]

Time is a flat circle

[hidden torrent]

say they invented the language
use the wrong accent

Fun fact, Historians say Shakespeare should be read with an American accent because that's closest to middle English-ish accent

The more you know

[low yacht]

To be honest it was made originally to use less ink and a error.

At least modern English

[hidden torrent]

What if you wanted to get cool armor and then god said

penances

[low yacht]

I would do them.

[hidden torrent]

I must grind

[tall torrent]

what's ur penance point progress rn

[hidden torrent]

4400

[tall torrent]

last night yuri got rly close

oh nice

[oblique totem]

Oh God, I forgot. I need to continue grinding

[somber axle]

Wow you're pretty close

Do you just have to do the 50 mission complete penances?

[hidden torrent]

Bullseye

one martyr skull

couple private game ones

[oblique totem]

I need to make a real effort to get all the martyr skulls

[tall torrent]

am debating if I wanna get elysian armor to go with the newest backpack they added (small model so minimal clipping if any)

[oblique totem]

Would it be worth it?

[midnight totem]

I didn't like the elusian armor

then again, I don't really like any armors

Still using the orange transcendent armor with the black winged boot pants

I mean, if the way processional armor didn't have the zealot candle

or if the rogue trader outfit didn't have the wierd sunken in chest

I'd probably use that

[tall torrent]

yea not a fan of the armor model on that outfit

[midnight totem]

I did buy the helmet though

[tall torrent]

I just run Moebian 6th armor now

I thought the Elysian armor pairs well with scion helm

So that was my intention

[midnight totem]

Helmet reminds me of arbites/Dredd

https://tenor.com/view/dredd-burn-watching-apathy-karl-urban-gif-20285124

[oblique totem]

Arbites armor when?

[lean light]

I think this is the first gun I've got that isn't absolutely crap

Proud of my silly guy

[somber axle]

The backpack just entered rotation and the Elysian set is closer to rotation swaps pushing it out if that helps your decision

But if you're not a fan of the Elysian stuff to begin with I'd say don't

Only buy if you like and plan to use it

Otherwise it's a waste of money

Only clowns buy things they don't plan on using

Like me!

[tall torrent]

yea that's why I was considering

[oblique totem]

Do cosmetics return or are they gone forever?

[stoic basalt]

They kinda rotate but they recycle them a lot too, seen a lot of pallet swaped "New" skins

Also in regards to that bolt gun up there do people use that anymore? I feel like I dont really see boltguns in game that often, plasma sometimes but boltguns have pretty much Disappeared

[slender turtle]

I use them all the time. Just not for aiming unless I need to, more so for hyper bursting down beefy targets. It's great for my melee vet

It's slept on mostly cause it has a filter for those trying to master its ridiculous recoil and long af reloads. It's absolutely ridiculous on a zealot as well

[lucid ginkgo]

So about fanhammering slugussy, crucian roulletre cruciall to build?

[gray finch]

is granade tinkerer is essential for smoke granades or can i skip it ?

[vocal cipher]

I skipped it, but do whatever

[tame lodge]

Pretty popular with zealots as far as I noticed

[bitter turtle]

is nice, but skippable, especially since you have to waste 1 pt to even get to it

you can consider it if you're going to go VOC though

you trade 5% crit for 5% hp

and you give up agile engagement
movespeed aura is generally better than fire team as well

[bitter turtle]

a lot of ppl dont know how to play it anymore since the balance changes made it pretty bad for the automatic hipfire a while back

vet has to play it like a semi auto sniper

[tall torrent]

It’s not essential but makes its impact way higher

[stoic basalt]

Ah

[trim steppe]

Any suggestions for a map that I have a good chance of finding Reapers in the first room or two

I'm having little luck with Hab Dreyko and Ascension Riser

[last parcel]

what about excise vault

[midnight totem]

I've found some in high int enclavum

Or was it the other throneside map

Dun member

[trim steppe]

Thanks I'll give em a try

[late hatch]

The water map one where you run along a little catwalk then come out at the top of the big set of stairs and the path goes left and right around a pipe at the bottom. Reg get reapers there.

[trim steppe]

Oh ya, Vigil Station I think you're talking about

[late hatch]

Could be, I cbf remembering the map names

[white minnow]

is silo cluster

[trim steppe]

Yeah I've played every map a 100 times and i have no idea what they are called lmao

[white minnow]

vigil is the one where you go up a cylinder of sorts in a spiral fashion in the starting areas

[velvet storm]

the veteran sentry armor is the best veteran armor they've released so far

[lethal lantern]

anyone know how i can tune this wacko gun to one shot gunners??

[vocal cipher]

Flak and infested come to mind

[tall torrent]

use superiority complex + both ranged dmg nodes + redirect fire 5 stacks/longshot

[tall torrent]

That one has horrendous clipping issues in the right hand glove

[hollow warren]

Fucking Hadron, jesus christ. wasted all 5k of my plasteel trying to get PC4 and got nothing

[radiant chasm]

Are you upgrading to blue or yellow

[hollow warren]

I'm convinced at this point that PC4 doesn't exist

[hollow warren]

no, to blue

[junior needle]

Only 5k?

[radiant chasm]

And are you doing highest possible mod score you got from brunts

[tall torrent]

5k plasteel is next to nothing for that blessing lol

[junior needle]

Welcome to fatsharks player retention crafting system

[radiant chasm]

I think i poached my pc4 from melk

[hollow warren]

yeah so far I only have 2 tier 4 blessings unlocked, but all tier 3

[junior needle]

Are you feeling retained?

[radiant chasm]

Oof

[hollow warren]

can I have a glass of water at least?...

[junior needle]

Yellow has a higher chance of higher tier blessings

[hollow warren]

well fuck me then

idk how much plasteel I've wasted crafting power sword to blue

maybe 20k at this point