#veteran-class

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brittle apex
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with stealth if you're backlining you're probably not on coherency etcetc

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Close order (full coherency)
Iron will
5% TDR
Hunter’s resolve

This gives u 159.1 toughness breakpoint

stuck gorge
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whats hunters resolve again?

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stuck gorge
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ah

hearty panther
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when you can just be invis for another 10s instead tho

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i dont see it, personally

brittle apex
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i can do it without close order drill but the build is just dumb

somber axle
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Yeah numbers cat came up with the term and I thought it was funny so I use it too. It's specifically for Gunlugger Ogryns who are allergic to using melee and will exclusively use their ranged weapon (almost exclusively Twinstubber) then spam shots at anything that moves and vacuum up every ammo tin and pack while eating multiple hits from ammo crates to fuel their addiction to holding down mouse 1.

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somber axle
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If you're a Zealot or staff Psyker you might feel the pain a lot less but as a Vet main it hurts to see these giant ammo goblins eating all the tins and packs while somehow killing almost nothing

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somber axle
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And there are a LOT more of them post update because people are chasing the Lucky Bullet penance

hearty panther
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yea or if you are attacking them

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but you do avoid a lot

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brittle apex
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threat is an ambiguous term, it could have other effects tbh

somber axle
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Mostly Psyker and Veteran mains trying an Ogryn alt for penances and developing a crippling addiction to ignoring their melee at all costs. I don't think Zealot mains become stupid when they swap Ogryn though just because knowing melee is basically a default status for Zealots

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somber axle
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And Ogryn melee is arguably the simplest and somehow also maybe even the strongest in the game

stuck gorge
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doesnt ogryn just have silly high base dmg on basically every weapon

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It's hard to be bad at Ogryn

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Not all but most

brittle apex
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Ogryns kill with bleed

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brittle apex
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And their ranged weapons lose to like plasma only

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somber axle
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Ogryn melee builds are wonderful. Tauntgryns are love and life. Tauntgryns spark joy. When I see a Tauntgryn in the wild I love them and when the match ends I miss them dearly

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somber axle
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Taunt + Skullcrusher just casually giving the party a massive damage boost to everything the Tauntgryn goes after

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being able to save your teammate from being bonked in the back by screaming angrily at anything that dares touch the lil uns

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somber axle
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They're not flashy like Psykers blowing things up or Plasma VoC Vets shouting and exploding things

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I prefer to be the one taking the heat because I know I can

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But I like when people around me to get to do a Lotta damage and have fun

balmy flume
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Where would be appropriate to report drip glitches?

stuck gorge
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dear god the drip is glitching?

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balmy flume
somber axle
candid agate
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what is wrong with some people

stuck gorge
candid agate
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Soften them up + valuable distraction + Skullcrusher IV

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15% + 25% + 10% (x8)

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Make enemies take extra 120% (total 220%) dmg by doing basically nothing

candid agate
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can you guys think of any actually good recon lasgun builds

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i really wanna use one after seeing what i can do to one in the weapon customisation menu

hearty panther
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yes

candid agate
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but i dont wanna be useless

hearty panther
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the secret is that its mostly just a good melee build

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that also uses a recon lasgun

candid agate
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right

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good thing im a stealth veteran then i guess

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what blessings should i use

hearty panther
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so really after that its just taking onslaught

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dumdum + infernus

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or really dumdum + w/e you want so long as it isnt the salvo blessings

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candid agate
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and it 2 shots ragers

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hearty panther
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i only see headhunter being valuable with stormtrooper but even then, debatable

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i dont run anything except fully loaded and am fine

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candid agate
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ok what the fuck kinda build is that

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Normal knife build

candid agate
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tell me your secrets o wise one

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I use mk6 with uncanny strike + executor

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which one is executor

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+%power per melee weakspot hit

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Stacks 5 times

candid agate
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oh yeah i know that one

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Executor drops all stacks on a registered melee hit that doesn’t connect with any weakspot

idle swallow
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uncanny straight busted as usual

somber axle
candid agate
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i gotta do something so brb sorry if i dont answer any messages

somber axle
hollow ibex
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What's the point of tauntgryn when you can just taunt with push attacks though 🤔

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brittle apex
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taunt is an aoe interrupt

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It also force staggers enemies out of animations

hollow ibex
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That's pretty nice

tame lodge
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Attention Seeker is just an extra plus you need to be in pushing range

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Or the shield interaction

hollow ibex
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You can tell ogryn is my least played class KEKW_ogryn

brittle apex
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i think attention seeker is only useful for shield vs gunners really

tame lodge
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You can taunt Crushers beelining towards your team

somber axle
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Y'know what lemme just DM that guy my Recon Mk VId build to avoid spamming yhe chat again

tame lodge
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Not only crushers, but you know what I mean

dreamy spade
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I love paying for a cosmetic only for them to give a better version for free

tame lodge
hollow ibex
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Boys I found something new to listen to when lifting, The Enchiridion of Epictetus

candid agate
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fellas whats the best recon lasgun

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gonna try the brunt lottery

dreamy spade
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Is rendering strikes good for plasma?

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candid agate
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6D thanks

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dayumm just got 2 370s in a row

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and a 377 mk6 knife

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candid agate
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shes gonna fuck me over for sure

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too bad i have 100 plasteel so i can only delay the inevitable

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the recon bible is coming

somber axle
somber axle
candid agate
candid agate
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too many words my brainrotted brain doesnt wanna read

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Imo hardon fucks our shit up just to be a dick

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Lore accurate

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yes chadgryn

oblique totem
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Recon bible is the new religion.

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Going home from a hard day at the jym to use recon mark 2 rn chadgryn

candid agate
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classic ogryn, cant even spell gim

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candid agate
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no

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I think they're referencing a very old YouTube song

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And unlocked core memories I forgot about

oblique totem
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Or just being a menace.

candid agate
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i dont want to know what old youtube song was about showing your genitals

oblique totem
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Both, perhaps.

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accatran mk ii recon lasgun doesn't kill people

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i kill people

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What the fucking

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with accatran mk ii recon lasgun

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Video

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I forget the name

oblique totem
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Super San lesbian always sprinkles when he tinkles

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So virgina hanging out with little boys in spandex I see

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^iykyk

oblique totem
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Wish I didn't.

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I think psychic pebbles made it I forget now

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God it's old

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Kisten Stuart and Mickey waiting for their dad again

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i hate that you put this mind worm in my head this is a fucking war crime

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Checkout my new gun

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Bouta roll with it

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Auric Damnation

midnight totem
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arg

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59 out of 60 on bull rush penance

midnight totem
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like COME ON

hidden timber
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any good?

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agile forge
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Going from PC3 to 4, muscle memory really fucks you up lol

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somber axle
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Nice!

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You can play with anything you want on any difficulty you want if you're good enough

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The random was jealous of it the whole time

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I saw it in his eyes

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priest had recon envy

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LMAO

stuck gorge
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would this be a good buy if i just change the perks?

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Damage too high

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checking discord midmatch chadgryn

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mid horde

robust drum
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Any suggestions on which is better, or any improvements that can be made? I wish I had Headhunter and Deadly accurate on one, but Hadron gives what she gives

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Between the Eyes isn't super useful for the build because I have Determined for outright supp. immunity

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I don't think mg Xii too great rn

hidden timber
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any good?

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not terrible I don't thin

hollow ibex
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Would replace lacerate and block

robust drum
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more of a numbers cat question

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I just know vauge stuff

robust drum
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Fair! Tks for the input

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love you

keen sedge
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its so...beautiful...

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radiant chasm
radiant chasm
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mk12 takes basically everything to hit one shot breakpoints, mkia hits the 2 hit breakpoints easier, and it has nice ammo economy

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keen sedge
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keen sedge
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its either
riposte + flesh or uncanny + flesh

keen sedge
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keen sedge
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idk my knife is killing stuff fast enough with the fuck ton of crits and bleed

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like

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really fast

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so fast that like

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its fast

keen sedge
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keen sedge
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bleed

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bitter turtle
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Uncanny is at minimum a 25 percent damage boost

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And that's like

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Absolute worst case

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bitter turtle
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Nothing really beats that

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if ur gonna use bleed, take uncanny + flesh

bitter turtle
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Uncanny flesh is p good anyway

idle swallow
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Why are you taking flesh tearer and not uncanny, either do bleed+uncanny or riposte+not bleed

bitter turtle
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I run that on my knife

keen sedge
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bitter turtle
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It goes from like 60 dmg ticks to 200

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Way better than a bit more consistency on the crit since knife crit rate is already p good

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keen sedge
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but, more bleed from riposte NanaHa

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think about it

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bleed

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reciprocity + desperado is good enough

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bitter turtle
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The built in rending from critting makes it usable but the truth is the bleed isn't doing as much as it could

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Cause it doesn't benefit

keen sedge
bitter turtle
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Since bleeds can't crit

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if u like bleed so much u might as well play the bleed meme

keen sedge
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crusher & bulwark?

keen sedge
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BUT

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that is with 1 proc

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bitter turtle
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You can do over half crusher hp with a single crit + full bleed with uncanny flesh

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If we're talking about a single crit

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bitter turtle
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Ofc practically you can delete them with 3 push attack so they usually don't have time to full bleed out

runic topaz
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is there a good attack pattern with mk6 knife for horde clearing or is it just spam light attacks?

keen sedge
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also hear me out, fuck uncanny

bitter turtle
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Or heavy heavy block cancel heavy heavy

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Or heavy heavy light light loop

runic topaz
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thank you, couldnt for the life of me figure it out

keen sedge
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so every single crit non-weakspot hit applies 13 stacks of bleed

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for the true bleed meme

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if u like bleed so much

keen sedge
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or spending 3 points...

bitter turtle
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Gotta have frag for even more bleed

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Flechette manstopper lawbringer for bleed gun

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Unlimited bleed works

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bitter turtle
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If you're not cutting yourself while playing you're not doing it right

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bitter turtle
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Gotta bleed directly onto your keyboard

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because that's the biggest breakpoint flesh tearer gets over other blessings

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executor and mercy both need 2 hits

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potent iris
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if you're not holding W so hard your tendons snap, are you really playing DT?

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runic topaz
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also does anyone know if theres a full auto mod for block attacks

hidden torrent
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sounds like a mod that you shouldn't download

bitter turtle
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There's already full auto mod for guns

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Doubt it would be a problem

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automatically blocking attacks is different by a good measure

runic topaz
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oh no

bitter turtle
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No

runic topaz
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i mean i just hold down attack while blocking and it hits as fast it can

bitter turtle
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He asked for block atrack

runic topaz
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not auto block attacks

bitter turtle
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Push attack

potent iris
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L1-pish-h2

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🐟

midnight totem
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Always melee a rager

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Establish dominance

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I'd kiss them if they weren't so noisy

midnight totem
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Not that kind of dominance

bitter turtle
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Maulers are noisier

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LET ME THROUGH

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not so noisy now

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UUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

midnight totem
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Anyway, I'm annoyed as fuck. Made an attempt at getting gone bowling penance

bitter turtle
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Mutants: UOOOOOOOH 😭 😭 😭

midnight totem
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Fucking 59 out of 60

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Like what kinda horseshit is this

bitter turtle
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🐴 💩

midnight totem
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I'll hit you with a rock

shadow aurora
midnight totem
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It's a friendly rock

hidden torrent
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I'm gonig to play tauntgryn next game, unloved my many for being large

shadow aurora
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Oh okay than😊

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it's a thankless jopb

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me to any sniper

austere pine
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i hate holding click to shoot a single bullet. how do i make headhunter autoguns work?

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best mark?

tame lodge
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Vraks 7 for single shots

bitter turtle
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7 for sniper

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3 for iag-like

austere pine
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how is higui purple but not red yet

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is stability an important stat for them?

bitter turtle
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Yes

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Especially for 3

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7 not as much

austere pine
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no fucking respite

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killing myself rn

wild vortex
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any way to salvage this?

austere pine
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both perks to either hand cannon and surgical or hand cannon and crucian roulette

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should work fine

bitter turtle
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Idk if 6 elite is good enough

austere pine
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it's a revolver with 80 damage, 79 crit and 75 pen

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put 50% rending on that bitch and it's a real hand cannon

bitter turtle
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I don't like saying yes or no without knowing if it still actually hits bp

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Like 2shot crusher

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Not home to test

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If it doesn't then it's effectively 0/4

austere pine
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if it doesn't, doing trickshooter (if aim good) or speedload with hand cannon and fixing elite might also work

bitter turtle
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That's even worse

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If he's asking if something is goof

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Good

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I figure he wants better than a 0/4 brick

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I would suggest testing if 6 percent elite is enough for the relevant bps

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If so then yeah it's salvageable

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If no, well

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You can use it

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But it's literally as much of a shitroll for perks and blessings you can get

rocky jacinth
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With those stats it's still a real solid gun even if you get surgical and nothing else

vague lintel
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i am also not a trickshooter fan even if your aim is good, stuff like supression and sway and enemy stagger just make it really hard to upkeep

bitter turtle
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Trickshooter is just bad

vague lintel
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you can get suppression immunity on vet at least but

bitter turtle
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Even on fan revolver

rocky jacinth
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Any damage a perk would add to hit a breakpoint can be compensated for with a solid melee smack 💪

strange epoch
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hows this look for a meme damage build

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I wanted it to be super brain off

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can anyone improve it so its 100% damage, nothing else?

rocky jacinth
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if you want to be an actual idiot with a plasma gun and have somebody pinging for you with focus target

terse idol
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terse idol
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Well I meeann

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I'm not building a breakpoint just so weapon spec can meet it rounyspin

agile reef
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Weapons specialist is better for general purpose brawling imo

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I wouldn't really... Actually, might work well on plasma.

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Could be onto something.

rocky jacinth
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You know what the real big brain move is? When you build so that a crit headshot takes the crusher to 1% so you get a free reload and can keep chaining the crit boost.

agile reef
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High single shot damage, benefits a lot from swapping back to melee for a while.

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Good hip fire performance

terse idol
agile reef
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Huh. I might need to make a weapons specialist plasma gunner now.

terse idol
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Or well, in the jerkest way, cause I'm a jerk

rocky jacinth
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actually rude

terse idol
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I just don't think you need to run a hoop

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To try to make a niche situation work out

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When you could have built for the breakpoint

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I'm sorry and not sorry at the same time

rocky jacinth
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You COULD spend 2 million credits and plasteel to get a revolver with perfect stats OR you could turn mistakes into miracles

terse idol
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Never had to, just needed to roll for the bare minimum stats to meet breakpoints LETSFUCKINGGOOOOOO

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But that is a good mentality to have

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terse idol
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Like the funny meme of God rolling is like

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Well a meme

rocky jacinth
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Besides, revolver falloff is so bad that even if you reach the breakpoint you'll probably miss it due to range half the time

terse idol
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Once you learn that unless you're trying to god roll to make minimum damage talent point builds

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That uh, minimum damage rolls are good enough to meet most if not all breakpoints

terse idol
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There's either abit of magnetism

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Or you can get used to it

true trellis
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I like hitting enemies if my sword lets me hit an enemy twice instead of once that's an upside

terse idol
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But it's pretty precise at long ranges

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About as precise as the tip of the ironsight

rocky jacinth
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Not aim, falloff, as in it deals less damage the further away you are

terse idol
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Cause you know hitscan

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Yeah

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But only so many enemies are gonna be that far

true trellis
terse idol
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Gunners, snipers, grenadiers

terse idol
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I'm used to it... and for some reason darktide helped me learn how to aim with ironsights

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And lastly, on that topic

umbral scaffold
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Starting Chain axes, what should I do with this one?

terse idol
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The revolver typically hits hard enough that most of those targets will go down with the headshot modifier

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Because the revolver has high damage to begin with

full nacelle
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I think I'm cooking with a Lawbringer Shotgun build...

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Someone humble/hype me

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rocky jacinth
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spread shot

terse idol
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IF I'M GONNA GET INTO IT

terse idol
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I've only had my agri revolver

umbral scaffold
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Crushers be like

terse idol
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Actually fail to kill snipers

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At long ranges

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But the zarona is prettyyy gooooooo-d

full nacelle
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Seriously though, Marksman's Focus shotgun build actually seems pretty legit

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you can build full stacks pretty much instantly by using the special ammo and oneshot almost anything with your alt fire + deadshot

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has anyone else tried this?

somber axle
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Yes

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I did the Marksman's Focus 10 stacks penance on Veteran with a Lawbringer Shotgun using Scattershot IV and Manstopper II

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It took me 2 days to do on a hectic work schedule where I only had 2-3 hours of play time a day

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No crab walking needed

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Evaporate hordes

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Dome specials/elites

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I ran with Krak and Infiltrate though

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Krak to cover the weakness to anti-armour (and also farm 500 krak kill penance at the time
) and Infiltrate + Low Profile so I could stand out in the open casually loading special shells to obliterate entire hordes while standing next to my squad completely untouched

full nacelle
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It seems like it would be especially strong now with the changes to Marksman's Focus. Easy to maintain max stacks.

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Executioner's gives it better special sniping and lets you refresh Marksman and For the Emporer buffs... Plus stacking ranged weakspot damage like crazy

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And Tunnel Vision got a big buff too so even more toughness regen from Exhilarating Takedown

somber axle
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Yeah it is and also Lawbringer Shotgun with Scattershot IV and Manstopper is THE most ammo efficient gun in the entire game for wiping out crowds of poxwalkers and groaners. No other gun will ever come close to the ability to trash an entire horde wave using a single shell. Only Psyker staves can compete for how they use no ammo and even then Lawbringer Shotgun is deleting wide swaths in a cone

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Manstopper over Flechette though? Guaranteed bleed versus guarnteed cleave... 🤔

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mods, show him The Gif

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tawny badger
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tawny badger
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👍

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full nacelle
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And the thing with bleed is that

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6 stacks doesn’t do that much

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You sorta need >10 stacks to have good Dmg

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That means two crits

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And it only hits 4.5 hitmass so front of horde

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It can go through 1 single Dreg rager in a mixed horde

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Can’t go through other armored elites

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Dots in general have yet to excite me anyway so no big deal

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I really wish I had the resources to make me the ultimate Lawbringer right now

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I want to try it out so bad

tawny badger
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Low DOT stacks have very minimal effects

tropic notch
tawny badger
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fps death

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somber axle
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I don't have a video or gif of Lawbringer Manstopper

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But I do have one of Agripina Manstopper

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Allow me to show

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This is done with Weapon Specialist to guarantee the shot will crit to ensure Manstopper is active

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that's a thing of beauty

terse idol
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Wow zealots have a version for throwing knife

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Now vets

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Rise

somber axle
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Yes

terse idol
somber axle
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I have that video too

terse idol
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The devs when

somber axle
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Manstopper blessing on Shotgun also buffs knife

terse idol
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Helbore can't get melee talents

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manstopper shotgun:exists

full nacelle
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random question... does anyone know if upgrading weapons to gold gives you better/different blessings?

somber axle
somber axle
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So if you want a tier 2 blessing like Manstopper you either fish for blessings upgrading to blue from grey or green, or make a fresh alt and spam buy low level shotguns to upgrade instead

rocky jacinth
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Kantrael shotgun my beloved...

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god I wish the upgrade system wasn't so shit

somber axle
stuck gorge
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what blessings do you generally want on an axe?

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Brutal momentum + headtaker

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stuck gorge
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tac axe

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Uh

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Brutal momentum + headtaker for mk2 and mk7

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Shred + headtaker for mk4

stuck gorge
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aight

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But tac axes aren’t that good rn

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pseudo fiber
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brunt does though

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and two tap ragers

somber axle
wild vortex
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so I replace Speedload and what else

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somber axle
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Unfortunately I really like working with people and making people happy

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So tech jobs Don't want me

somber axle
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I like making people happy but I don't like working with people

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If I could be a park ranger with amazing internet I would enter a forest and never leave

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I just enjoy making people smile

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And seeing that

somber axle
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Oh also! Has anyone seen what the new cosmetics will look like for tomorrow?

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That's likely something datamined in Theory crafting if at all 🙂

somber axle
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I wait for new clothes...

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sturdy zephyr
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Whats max toughness curio can get?15¿

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And should i run all max toughness?

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bitter turtle
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Wound curios nerf med stims

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Not worth

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Can't hear you over my wound curios

bitter turtle
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So you dont get 100 - 0'd by poxburster trains

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(It still happens sometimes)

strange epoch
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its always the 3rd poxbuster that gets ya

sturdy zephyr
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Yeah since vet stuck with 2 bars

rocky jacinth
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If you don't run a +3 stamina curio on all builds you're no friend of mine

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Sounds like a win win

sturdy zephyr
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Need recommendation to swap perks.

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Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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sturdy zephyr
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I’m just counting on tmr having weapon skins

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sturdy zephyr
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Verywell thx u

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Ideally you want

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Elite + power cycler IV + brutal momentum / sunder

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4th perk is preferably maniac but isn’t entirely mandatory depending on ur talent tree

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I kinda struggle fending horde especially the helmet herectic

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Normal one

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Dreg Bruiser?

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Non special

stuck gorge
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im sad that this is how my 379 rolled

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When dealing those rager everthing its okay but when tried killing those smaller enemies im kinda slow

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The sword like can kill fast enough

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Cant×

rocky jacinth
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bruiser heads are actually kind of thick, if you don't have the damage they'll bog you down quick even with activation

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Nothing wrong with some thickness

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Just harder to deal with

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Back to penance grind

sturdy zephyr
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So dont waste attack without charging it up

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buff powersword

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it should always be activate

rocky jacinth
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unless you don't need it, like stabbing a dog to death

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least based take

unreal bone
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Oh wow I can't wait to cosplay as the East India Trading company in Darktide

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This is exactly what we wanted.

somber axle
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OH HEY I CAN MAKE THAT TOP PART OF A NEW CLOWN COSTUME

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Not interested in the pants though

somber axle
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Sprint forever, block forever, shove forever, push attack forever, Deadshot forever

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what blessings for kantrael xii bois

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I can't wait to use that on my stealth vet

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also, got trapped out of my ogryn charge

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very annoying

rapid palm
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  • flak is also a must, get either + maniac or + unyeilding with that if you can
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roger

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mk1 2 the best of the kantraels?

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i have a nice vraks mk7 but its getting old

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it used to be, but now its mostly personal prefrence, I personaly prefer the 1a

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hadron 😭

rapid palm
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oooof

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so fucking close

elder dawn
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fuck this games dookie ass craft system man

hollow ibex
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i remember why i stopped spending plasteel

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lol

hollow ibex
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The grind is better now

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eat my ass hadron

hollow ibex
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But yeah the system still sucks ass

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just gotta dump like 12k plasteel into her before she become snice

hollow ibex
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Oh wow look at Mr. Moneybags here with his 12k plasteel

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is that a lot

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I never rly accumulated very high plasteel count

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Its a lot if you dont have much, not much if you have a lot

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But I also collected all veteran available blessings (all tiers)

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I was gonna say

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I would be a millionaire

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Pretty much the only time I ever had more than 5k plasteel at a time

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Was before level 30

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Then I hit level 30 on all my characters and plasteel went to zero

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I try to keep around 1k or so.

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I run 1 toughness 1 health 1 stam

for some reason

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Though if you run knife, two toughness and one hp would work as well

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ugh

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I have a little plasteel

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Maybe enough to get a couple good rolls

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somber axle
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The thing with building +health for burster breakpoint is that
You need 200+ health which takes +33% from curio/talent tree

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If u don’t take +health from talent tree then you need to use quite a few slots on curios filled just for that 200 health breakpoint

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At least if u build for the 3 shot breakpoint

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There’s no difference between using heavy and L0 compared to just PA spam

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Mk6 is overall a little faster in atk speed

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Around 5% faster with PA spam

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I always just heavy attacked

somber axle
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If you're just doing heavies then stick with the Mk III

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My avg on crusher 3 shot with mk6 is like 3080~3150 (without trench fighter)

somber axle
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The strikedowns are better for that compared to the sweeping horizontal heavies of the Mk VI

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On mk3 it’s around 2950~3000 smth

somber axle
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Push attack is what makes the Mk VI funny for stab time

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Doing pure heavy spam is the same breakpoint as mk6 pure heavy spam

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The only major breakpoint difference is punch > L0

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Mk3 punch L0 is a lot faster

somber axle
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Mk6 forces u to mix 1 atk in before u can do it again

bitter turtle
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ive foundn it less of a problem that you might think

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That it’s not a problem

bitter turtle
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like in theory yeah, but i just never have that problem

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ig because of height ya

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If anything you’d be hitting 2 elites at once which is a plus

somber axle
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If someone doesn't wanna do push attack then just do Mk III because it's easier

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If someone doesn’t wanna bother with push atk then they use H2 > punch > L0 on mk6

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Which is still a little faster than mk3

somber axle
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Plus strikedown feels more satisfying than sweeping for killing harder targets

bitter turtle
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nah

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the sweeping is badass

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run past a rager with a sweeping heavy

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Mk3 highest dps combo besides PA spam ironically doesn’t use punch L0

bitter turtle
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like you're doing the samurai iaijutsu showdown

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It’s H2 > L3 loop

bitter turtle
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and then he dies to the bleed after

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dont even turn around

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It takes 4 hits but gets to ~2500dps on crusher

bitter turtle
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looking at the explosion is not cool

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H2 > punch > L0 > H2 for mk3 is around 2300dps on crusher

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Maybe 2200 if u don’t time it as good

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Yeah Mk VI is faster and stronger but like beyond the better math some people just like the movement of the Mk III more

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Fun factor is a big part of game time

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It just barely gets to >8 cleave (8.06)

somber axle
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Also it's really not that much stronger

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Not enough to make taking the Mk III obsolete

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It's mostly preference unless you're shooting for funny DPS numbers in Psykanium

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Same breakpoint, better atk speed for main combos, better horde clear, more versatile moveset

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It's better

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Just not that much better

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Not like the Power Swords

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Maybe for zealot / psyker mk3 gets to hit a couple better breakpoints

somber axle
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Power Sword VI is just so much better than Power Sword III that there's no point to using the III unless you like the moveset more

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somber axle
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Push attack poke on Power Sword VI is too good

somber axle
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But I did used to prefer the III so I understand why someone else would

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Moveset feels very comfy

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The VI takes practice to feel it out and enjoy it

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The III feels good right out of the box

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6 is more complex yea

somber axle
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Sometimes people just wanna no thoughts head empty and I vibe with that

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perfect strike chadgryn

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i actually think those two are a lot closer than people give it credit for

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moreso than the knives actually

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psword3 actually hits all the same bps except crusher

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but its a 3shot so its not that much worse

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menawhile mk6 knife just has a significantly better moveset than 3 other than slightly more diagonal lights

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bitter turtle
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yeah but you donty rely on sliding /dodging to power up 3

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idk i think its really not that big of a difference

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both are hella stronk

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and both still feel pretty shitty on mobility without wep specialist

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Plus it's funny unlocking the hidden extra cleave on the Evis XV by activating rev

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Then slapping through hordes

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Objectively worse horde clear compared to standard one hand Chainswords

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Very fun to just take a giant chainsaw sword and whack everything with reckless abandon

bitter turtle
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i still use the old evis

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U just run savage sweep + shred

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Activate BP as fast as possible and you basically turn into chainsawman

somber axle
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But then blades get caught on maulers/crushers

bitter turtle
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btw

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i actually wonder

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if psword3 isnt the better sunder sword

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but idk your take

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bitter turtle
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cause i feel like you gotta do heavies to make sunder worthwhile against 5+ elites

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Though also yeah I've done the 1handed Chainsword a little bit on Zealot for very funny attack speed

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I just haven't done it with Piety yet

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and mk3 lines them up well

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u can actually like kill 5 ragers in one activation with mk3 cause it lines their heads up easily

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I think I did it with Momentum before because I was dumb and just sorta choosing that side because it has the go fast 10% move speed too

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well usually more like 3 but the last two are pretty close to dead

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wait no i have no melee talents on this tree

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let me try an actual melee build

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There is also a new backpack coming out with the new shop rotation this week?

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Wack..?

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whats the point of backpacks

bitter turtle
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what is the point of any skin that isnt a weapon

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^

unreal bone
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Not my cosmetics lol

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only time I ever had backpack clipping was 1 psyker chest with the vox pack

bitter turtle
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i was not gonna buy anything more but i saw it and was like

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ye

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I have the green field repair one and another black one

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Hoping tmr’s sets come with Helbore / headhunter skin

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Love that one

bitter turtle
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buty eah

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like

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this actually looks really practical to me idk

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and no mk6 doesnt do nearly as well

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the diagonals are shit at trying to catch them all in the swings

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nevermind headshotting

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atrocious

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like maybe if i stack them all on top of each other its ok but ragers dont move like that lol

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I'm so close to finishing

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dear god it takes so long

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Well some of them do

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yes

unreal bone
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You will feel nothing but emptiness

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after you finish it

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I feel that now

unreal bone
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More emptiness

pseudo fiber
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Yeah the emptyness is farming 50 missions in each area

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soon... soon.

bitter turtle
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kek

unreal bone
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I got my 4500

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without doing a single

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50 mission penance

bitter turtle
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i cant get gone bowling

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i hate this one

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I bet the empty feeling exists for everyone forever

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then you marry someone to feel whole

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then you go back to playing video games

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it's a cycle

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Couldn't be me tho

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bitter turtle
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i met my SO in high school and i only started feeling empty inside after college

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so its the reverse order for me

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:^)

bitter turtle
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lemme find a last christmas 12 hour loop

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I'm way too skibidi

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What fresh hell...?

pseudo fiber
bitter turtle
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yup

bitter turtle
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rip

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idk then

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im missing 30 from them

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lol

pseudo fiber
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and ass

bitter turtle
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the kill within 5 seconds

pseudo fiber
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and auric exemplar

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and atoma elite guard

bitter turtle
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do you have

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dream team

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pseudo fiber
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nope

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ask backup

bitter turtle
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cause that unlock sgood samaritan

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so thats 30 pts right there

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do sedition with bots

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to finish that one

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lul

unreal bone
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Fuck it bro I can't

pseudo fiber
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lmao i'm like 40 off

bitter turtle
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oh

unreal bone
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I'm getting the weapon customization mod back]

bitter turtle
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nevermind

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that sounds fucking azwful then

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lol

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i was 5 off

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so i just did 5 sedition games

unreal bone
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Whoever designed the Helbore lasguns

pseudo fiber
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38 off

bitter turtle
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while holding down m1 for the last 1000 bullets

unreal bone
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to have the worst iron sights

bitter turtle
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for ogryn lucky bullet

unreal bone
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in all of gaming history

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is the worst

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I hate whoever designed the iron sights on helbores

bitter turtle
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mod them

unreal bone
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I am

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Right now

bitter turtle
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but have you tried modding them

oblique totem
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Most stupid fucking design decisons ever at fartshart

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I stg

unreal bone
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yes

pseudo fiber
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It genuinely causes discomfort

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to use the helbores

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without modding a red dot onto them

bitter turtle
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"only" 25 more missions to go :^)

pseudo fiber
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well it's cope okay

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Can't wait until I get the 4500 penance points so I can flex my massive gamer dick on people who don't have it

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(ingame)

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why would i put on a a reflex sight on a spear

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oh shit bipod for my knife

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(I’m not taking Moebian 6th Armor off until they release new penance rewards)

pseudo fiber
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same

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except the zealot one not a fan

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i love the mobian fore skin helmet

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yes I didn't hide this

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fake hide

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What is the fanning revolver good at

austere mica
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One very silly build

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it makes you feel cool when you unload into the slugussy

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I usually unload tho

austere mica
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There exists a build which allows you to Onefan most monsters

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hmmmm

austere mica
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Trying to find it

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thanks love you

austere mica
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got it

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From the launch of the update with the revolver so results may vary

pseudo fiber
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yeah they nerfed it's penetration right?

austere mica
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A certified meme build

pseudo fiber
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or cleave or smth

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persk blessings tho?

austere mica
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No idea

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Is a non-surgical helbore build mental? Weight of Fire and Surgical just seem to work against one another.

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austere mica
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I'm not that dumb jeez

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tho you have been kinda roastin me lately

austere mica
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Its trickshooter and something

pseudo fiber
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hand canon

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Crucian roulette

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I'll play around with it 🙂

austere mica
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Then probably weakspot or something for the 2nd perk

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seems like a hard roll tbh

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lmao first roll

bitter turtle
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that was the zarona

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HADRON FUCKED ME

bitter turtle
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agri volver is nowhere near good enough to nerf

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that vid is a psykarium meme

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you will never actually pull that off in a real game

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nor is the build probably even a good idea

austere mica
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Yes

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However

bitter turtle
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if you'r egonna psyk meme anyway

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dont even take crucian

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just have a poxwalker you can pistol whip beside you with point blank

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70% crit on every shot

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that or pray you crit 51% 5 times in a row and take sustained fire or run n' gun for 20% or 10% power boost

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How can we optimize this goofy bullshit

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If hadron fucks me again I'm puttin her in a headlock

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2 guns bricked

bitter turtle
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optimized is prolly one of those fan dmg boosts (sustained/run n gun) + just reset until you get a full crit

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string

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its only a 3% chance to pull it off

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ez

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ive played gachage with worse rates than that

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it will be guaranteed with the god emperor's favor chadgryn

austere mica
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Even if it doesn't kill in an actual game it takes kraks so that monster is still ultrafucked

pseudo fiber
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speaking of revolvers

bitter turtle
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awkward

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crucian to surgical

pseudo fiber
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wait this is vet channel

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oops

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zealot

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this is on zealot

astral valve
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Well I don't think I've ever seen a 380 at Brunt's, is this any good

bitter turtle
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finesse is low

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i mean

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its not unusable

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but its not a god roll or anything

astral valve
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Aw

bitter turtle
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mobility doesnt matter on knife

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you can drop it as low as possible and you still wont lose a dodge

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Hadron is having a diddy party with the good blessings I need

bitter turtle
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so you need the 4 dmg stats high

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I've never used a knife so I was just curious, thanks for saving me a trip to the vet guide :)

bitter turtle
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np

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i mean

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if you wanna try

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its not like its literal trash or anything

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so feel free to upgrade it and give it a go

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if you feel like it

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more likely hadron is going to make it actual trash though

pseudo fiber
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haymaker lacerate

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Yeah, most of my resources are going towards trying to refine some of my items for existing builds, and get some better curios

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terrifying barrage run and gun knife chadgryn

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I'll worry about knives later lol

bitter turtle
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run and gun gives close range damasge secretly

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that's already too good for a meme

astral valve
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What about penetration on a rumbler

bitter turtle
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idk about ogryn weapons

astral valve
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Oh, duh

bitter turtle
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i only played ogryn to finish the goddamn penances

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Sorry I'm going hog wild at Brunt's apparently

pseudo fiber
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30000 bullets fired

bitter turtle
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np lol

pseudo fiber
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i think i know stuff about this game but then i learn more here so

astral valve
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Ooh it's a good one
Can't pass up a nice gray roll

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mobility 51% or higher

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cleave target is dump

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because ur supposed to power up 100% the time

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and powered cleave is separate from that modifier

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That's too much work

pseudo fiber
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i didn't know that

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Why isn't there an automatic power button

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it doesn't modify powered cleave

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so yea

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what mod to spawn bosses

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in cbt area

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how the fuck are you so fast

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vitamins

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First hit on "darktide creature spawner" :D

pseudo fiber
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so this roll remains goated because able 51% mobility

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cleave targets does affect the cleave of the special attack

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and before someone asks

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but the scaling is so low as to be pretty much insignificant as long as you're above 10 cleave for a non-sunder psword

pseudo fiber
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I already have a bromentum one so that's why it's slaughter

bitter turtle
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its not too bad

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only need 3 stats

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knife and rashad are the annoyin gones

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rashad even more cause you also need 50+ mobi

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the we got goated plasma gun where all the stats are pretty good

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