#veteran-class
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Iron will
5% TDR
Hunter’s resolve
This gives u 159.1 toughness breakpoint
whats hunters resolve again?
50% TDR for 10s after breaking stealth
ah
i can do it without close order drill but the build is just dumb
Yeah numbers cat came up with the term and I thought it was funny so I use it too. It's specifically for Gunlugger Ogryns who are allergic to using melee and will exclusively use their ranged weapon (almost exclusively Twinstubber) then spam shots at anything that moves and vacuum up every ammo tin and pack while eating multiple hits from ammo crates to fuel their addiction to holding down mouse 1.
I guess if you're the only one around it can help
If you're a Zealot or staff Psyker you might feel the pain a lot less but as a Vet main it hurts to see these giant ammo goblins eating all the tins and packs while somehow killing almost nothing
-90% isnt 100%, they will still target you if nothing is around
And there are a LOT more of them post update because people are chasing the Lucky Bullet penance
they need to go from 99.5% ammo to 100% just incase!!!
threat is an ambiguous term, it could have other effects tbh
Mostly Psyker and Veteran mains trying an Ogryn alt for penances and developing a crippling addiction to ignoring their melee at all costs. I don't think Zealot mains become stupid when they swap Ogryn though just because knowing melee is basically a default status for Zealots
I normally play Ogryn so if you see me around you'll know I'm not getting lucky bullet lmao
And Ogryn melee is arguably the simplest and somehow also maybe even the strongest in the game
doesnt ogryn just have silly high base dmg on basically every weapon
Ogryns kill with bleed
Yeah that's what I'm thinking
And their ranged weapons lose to like plasma only
the smack down shovel is easily one of the most powerful melee attacks in the game
Ogryn melee builds are wonderful. Tauntgryns are love and life. Tauntgryns spark joy. When I see a Tauntgryn in the wild I love them and when the match ends I miss them dearly
The only time I've felt appreciated as a tauntgryn
Taunt + Skullcrusher just casually giving the party a massive damage boost to everything the Tauntgryn goes after
being able to save your teammate from being bonked in the back by screaming angrily at anything that dares touch the lil uns
No one notices what a Tauntgryn does because a good Tauntgryn makes a game easier without making it obvious they are the reason
the glowing orange heads of basically the entire horde:
They're not flashy like Psykers blowing things up or Plasma VoC Vets shouting and exploding things
I prefer to be the one taking the heat because I know I can
But I like when people around me to get to do a Lotta damage and have fun
Where would be appropriate to report drip glitches?
dear god the drip is glitching?
nobody appreciates stealth veterans clutching saves until they need it
A free one, not a paid one lol
But glitch is glitch.
Even then they don't appreciate stealth Vets because I bet in the back of their mind they're thinking they wouldn't have gone down at all if a VoC Vet was spamming shout with them LOL
lmao an ogryn called me the n-word because he couldnt handle himself against a horde with a shield while i was stealthing
what is wrong with some people
that is NOT a real ogryn that is a heretical traitor in a large ass body suit
can ogryns even comprehend racism outside of hating xenos and traitors
Taunt ogryn is the biggest force multiplier build in this game
Soften them up + valuable distraction + Skullcrusher IV
15% + 25% + 10% (x8)
Make enemies take extra 120% (total 220%) dmg by doing basically nothing
can you guys think of any actually good recon lasgun builds
i really wanna use one after seeing what i can do to one in the weapon customisation menu
yes
but i dont wanna be useless
the secret is that its mostly just a good melee build
that also uses a recon lasgun
so really after that its just taking onslaught
dumdum + infernus
or really dumdum + w/e you want so long as it isnt the salvo blessings
Basically u want a melee weapon that kills maniac & carapace enemies really well
No headhunter?
my catachan mk3 has a dps of around 750 on crushers
and it 2 shots ragers
That’s knife?
yes
i only see headhunter being valuable with stormtrooper but even then, debatable
i dont run anything except fully loaded and am fine
Ok you gotta find a better knife because that thing is not cutting it
ur aiming for this
ok what the fuck kinda build is that
Normal knife build
tell me your secrets o wise one
I use mk6 with uncanny strike + executor
which one is executor
oh yeah i know that one
Executor drops all stacks on a registered melee hit that doesn’t connect with any weakspot
uncanny straight busted as usual
Yeah! It is why I love them so much. They are such valuable additions to any squad
i gotta do something so brb sorry if i dont answer any messages
If I were not busy with work I would have a long story to share with youv
What's the point of tauntgryn when you can just taunt with push attacks though 🤔
Big AoE + make every ability-taunted enemy receive +25% dmg from all sources
taunt is an aoe interrupt
It also force staggers enemies out of animations
Oh ic ok
That's pretty nice
Attention Seeker is just an extra plus you need to be in pushing range
Or the shield interaction
You can tell ogryn is my least played class 
i think attention seeker is only useful for shield vs gunners really
You can taunt Crushers beelining towards your team
Y'know what lemme just DM that guy my Recon Mk VId build to avoid spamming yhe chat again
Not only crushers, but you know what I mean
Those pouches and shoulders have some charm as well
Too much neck 🤮
Boys I found something new to listen to when lifting, The Enchiridion of Epictetus
Is rendering strikes good for plasma?
VId I think
Good luck with hadron
shes gonna fuck me over for sure
too bad i have 100 plasteel so i can only delay the inevitable
the recon bible is coming
Mk VId > Mk VIIa > Mk II imo
I sent it to his DMs to avoid spamming chat but idk if he saw or not LOL
numbers guy already told me but thanks
i have now
too many words my brainrotted brain doesnt wanna read
So use the mark 2 
yes 
Recon bible is the new religion.
Going home from a hard day at the jym to use recon mark 2 rn 
classic ogryn, cant even spell gim
show me your genitals
I think they're referencing a very old YouTube song
And unlocked core memories I forgot about
Or just being a menace.
i dont want to know what old youtube song was about showing your genitals
Both, perhaps.
What the fucking
with accatran mk ii recon lasgun
A correct statement.
Super San lesbian always sprinkles when he tinkles
So virgina hanging out with little boys in spandex I see
^iykyk
Wish I didn't.
I think psychic pebbles made it I forget now
God it's old
Kisten Stuart and Mickey waiting for their dad again
i hate that you put this mind worm in my head this is a fucking war crime
LMFAO
like COME ON
any good?
Usable but not great
Also mk6 kinda just outperforms mk3 at least on veteran
Going from PC3 to 4, muscle memory really fucks you up lol
I won the mission with that Recon las btw
Nice!
You can play with anything you want on any difficulty you want if you're good enough
priest had recon envy
LMAO
would this be a good buy if i just change the perks?
Damage too high
checking discord midmatch 
mid horde
Any suggestions on which is better, or any improvements that can be made? I wish I had Headhunter and Deadly accurate on one, but Hadron gives what she gives
Between the Eyes isn't super useful for the build because I have Determined for outright supp. immunity
I don't think mg Xii too great rn
any good?
not terrible I don't thin
Usable until you get a better one
Would replace lacerate and block
Yeah? I like it, so I'm trying to make it work, but I do feel you. Lacklustre on Hi-5 SG. Is it just the XII, or are Lasguns in general lagging behind?
Fair! Tks for the input
love you
its so...beautiful...
first target is too low
Mg12 is lagging behind yes
no uncanny 
mk12 is lagging behind yes, mkIa is considered better
mk12 takes basically everything to hit one shot breakpoints, mkia hits the 2 hit breakpoints easier, and it has nice ammo economy
Right, gotcha, so it's better to have a reliable 2 hit kill than a difficult to attain 1hk. Thanks!
uncanny aint needed
it unfortunately is needed
its either
riposte + flesh or uncanny + flesh
no?
idk my knife is killing stuff fast enough with the fuck ton of crits and bleed
like
really fast
so fast that like
its fast
riposte more versitle imo
then it's uncanny + riposte
is not as good lol
is it tho
Uncanny is at minimum a 25 percent damage boost
And that's like
Absolute worst case
yea it's nowhere even close
Nothing really beats that
if ur gonna use bleed, take uncanny + flesh
Uncanny flesh is p good anyway
Why are you taking flesh tearer and not uncanny, either do bleed+uncanny or riposte+not bleed
I run that on my knife
the bleed still does fuck tons of damage + riposte = lotsa bleed, lotsa death, lotsa crits
uncanny makes bleed do even more dmg
You know bleed dmg is affected by uncanny right
It goes from like 60 dmg ticks to 200
Way better than a bit more consistency on the crit since knife crit rate is already p good
if u need crit chance just take +crit chance talents
reciprocity + desperado is good enough
yea think about 3.3k crusher dps
i alr bring both
nuh uh, bleed
then u don't rly need riposte lol
The built in rending from critting makes it usable but the truth is the bleed isn't doing as much as it could
Cause it doesn't benefit
nuh uh, riposte
Since bleeds can't crit
idk its near killing almost every enemy with one bleed proc
mauler?
crusher & bulwark?
yea that's nowhere as good
fack u fack u no crusher fack u die fack u
hear me out...its bleeding
You can do over half crusher hp with a single crit + full bleed with uncanny flesh
If we're talking about a single crit
honestly if ur taking knife and not using it to delete crushers just play the lacerate + flesh tearer meme
Ofc practically you can delete them with 3 push attack so they usually don't have time to full bleed out
is there a good attack pattern with mk6 knife for horde clearing or is it just spam light attacks?
also hear me out, fuck uncanny
yes
loop H1 and H2
Heavy heavy then light heavy loop
Or heavy heavy block cancel heavy heavy
Or heavy heavy light light loop
thank you, couldnt for the life of me figure it out
heavy, heavy, light heavy then whatever the fuck i do after that is me having fun
u can even take serrated blade
so every single crit non-weakspot hit applies 13 stacks of bleed
for the true bleed meme
if u like bleed so much
we want serrated blade
but we dont want smoke grenades
or spending 3 points...
Gotta have frag for even more bleed
Flechette manstopper lawbringer for bleed gun
Unlimited bleed works
THIS ONG
If you're not cutting yourself while playing you're not doing it right
see if u can crit H1 one hit kill scab rager
Gotta bleed directly onto your keyboard
because that's the biggest breakpoint flesh tearer gets over other blessings
executor and mercy both need 2 hits
no, gun, never melee fight the slasher mc dasher man
ok
if you're not holding W so hard your tendons snap, are you really playing DT?
real vet
also does anyone know if theres a full auto mod for block attacks
sounds like a mod that you shouldn't download
automatically blocking attacks is different by a good measure
oh no
No
i mean i just hold down attack while blocking and it hits as fast it can
He asked for block atrack
not auto block attacks
Push attack
L1-pish-h2
🐟
I'd kiss them if they weren't so noisy
Not that kind of dominance
not so noisy now
UUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Anyway, I'm annoyed as fuck. Made an attempt at getting gone bowling penance
Mutants: UOOOOOOOH 😭 😭 😭
🐴 💩
I'll hit you with a rock
It's a friendly rock
I'm gonig to play tauntgryn next game, unloved my many for being large
Oh okay than😊
it's a thankless jopb
me to any sniper
i hate holding click to shoot a single bullet. how do i make headhunter autoguns work?
best mark?
Vraks 7 for single shots
any way to salvage this?
both perks to either hand cannon and surgical or hand cannon and crucian roulette
should work fine
Idk if 6 elite is good enough
it's a revolver with 80 damage, 79 crit and 75 pen
put 50% rending on that bitch and it's a real hand cannon
I don't like saying yes or no without knowing if it still actually hits bp
Like 2shot crusher
Not home to test
If it doesn't then it's effectively 0/4
if it doesn't, doing trickshooter (if aim good) or speedload with hand cannon and fixing elite might also work
That's even worse
If he's asking if something is goof
Good
I figure he wants better than a 0/4 brick
I would suggest testing if 6 percent elite is enough for the relevant bps
If so then yeah it's salvageable
If no, well
You can use it
But it's literally as much of a shitroll for perks and blessings you can get
With those stats it's still a real solid gun even if you get surgical and nothing else
i am also not a trickshooter fan even if your aim is good, stuff like supression and sway and enemy stagger just make it really hard to upkeep
Trickshooter is just bad
you can get suppression immunity on vet at least but
Even on fan revolver
Any damage a perk would add to hit a breakpoint can be compensated for with a solid melee smack 💪
hows this look for a meme damage build
I wanted it to be super brain off
can anyone improve it so its 100% damage, nothing else?
if you want to be an actual idiot with a plasma gun and have somebody pinging for you with focus target
The melee smack when it doesn't meet the break point

Do you even Weapons Specialist
Weapons specialist is better for general purpose brawling imo
I wouldn't really... Actually, might work well on plasma.
Could be onto something.
You know what the real big brain move is? When you build so that a crit headshot takes the crusher to 1% so you get a free reload and can keep chaining the crit boost.
High single shot damage, benefits a lot from swapping back to melee for a while.
Good hip fire performance
Sounds like a 0IQ play, and I mean that in the nicest way 
Huh. I might need to make a weapons specialist plasma gunner now.
actually rude
I just don't think you need to run a hoop
To try to make a niche situation work out
When you could have built for the breakpoint
I'm sorry and not sorry at the same time

You COULD spend 2 million credits and plasteel to get a revolver with perfect stats OR you could turn mistakes into miracles

Never had to, just needed to roll for the bare minimum stats to meet breakpoints 
But that is a good mentality to have
NO!!!! I HAVE to meet this single breakpoint on plague ogryns!!!!
Besides, revolver falloff is so bad that even if you reach the breakpoint you'll probably miss it due to range half the time
Once you learn that unless you're trying to god roll to make minimum damage talent point builds
That uh, minimum damage rolls are good enough to meet most if not all breakpoints
I swear loosie
There's either abit of magnetism
Or you can get used to it
I like hitting enemies if my sword lets me hit an enemy twice instead of once that's an upside
Not aim, falloff, as in it deals less damage the further away you are
You still use the iron sight?
Gunners, snipers, grenadiers
Yuh
I'm used to it... and for some reason darktide helped me learn how to aim with ironsights
And lastly, on that topic
Starting Chain axes, what should I do with this one?
The revolver typically hits hard enough that most of those targets will go down with the headshot modifier
Because the revolver has high damage to begin with
Is that the metal slug alternate fire?
spread shot
IF I'M GONNA GET INTO IT
I've only had my agri revolver
Crushers be like
Seriously though, Marksman's Focus shotgun build actually seems pretty legit
you can build full stacks pretty much instantly by using the special ammo and oneshot almost anything with your alt fire + deadshot
has anyone else tried this?
Yes
I did the Marksman's Focus 10 stacks penance on Veteran with a Lawbringer Shotgun using Scattershot IV and Manstopper II
It took me 2 days to do on a hectic work schedule where I only had 2-3 hours of play time a day
No crab walking needed
Evaporate hordes
Dome specials/elites
I ran with Krak and Infiltrate though
Krak to cover the weakness to anti-armour (and also farm 500 krak kill penance at the time
) and Infiltrate + Low Profile so I could stand out in the open casually loading special shells to obliterate entire hordes while standing next to my squad completely untouched
It seems like it would be especially strong now with the changes to Marksman's Focus. Easy to maintain max stacks.
Executioner's gives it better special sniping and lets you refresh Marksman and For the Emporer buffs... Plus stacking ranged weakspot damage like crazy
And Tunnel Vision got a big buff too so even more toughness regen from Exhilarating Takedown
Yeah it is and also Lawbringer Shotgun with Scattershot IV and Manstopper is THE most ammo efficient gun in the entire game for wiping out crowds of poxwalkers and groaners. No other gun will ever come close to the ability to trash an entire horde wave using a single shell. Only Psyker staves can compete for how they use no ammo and even then Lawbringer Shotgun is deleting wide swaths in a cone
Manstopper over Flechette though? Guaranteed bleed versus guarnteed cleave... 🤔
mods, show him The Gif
Infinite cleave vs 6 stacks of bleed with 4.5 cleave
I'm not sure how to parse this info. Is 4.5 cleave bad?
well cleave is a weird thing
see, 4.5 cleave- and correct me if I'm wrong yall- is you being able to cut through 4.5 fodder enemies before your weapon stops mid-swing
now compare that to being able to cut through infinite fodder enemies with a single swing
Ahhh, ok that makes sense. The more I think about it, the more I'm seeing why cleave would be better anyway. Don't really need the bleed stacks when most things are going to die in one hit anyway, so the enhanced cleave would probably get a lot more use over time.
👍
4.5 cleave is good but it’s a lot lower than ∞
Facts. You've convinced me.
And the thing with bleed is that
6 stacks doesn’t do that much
You sorta need >10 stacks to have good Dmg
That means two crits
And it only hits 4.5 hitmass so front of horde
It can go through 1 single Dreg rager in a mixed horde
Can’t go through other armored elites
Dots in general have yet to excite me anyway so no big deal
I really wish I had the resources to make me the ultimate Lawbringer right now
I want to try it out so bad
oh yeah the infinite cleave also helps when tougher mobs like crushers n' whatnot are added into the mix
Yeah and every shot needs to count on the shotty. Every time I've tried to build around one it's always been all about minimizing downtime from reloads.
You need high DOT stacks for them to do well
Low DOT stacks have very minimal effects
Soulblaze truma staff….

fps death
that build is on my bucket list 😈
I don't have a video or gif of Lawbringer Manstopper
But I do have one of Agripina Manstopper
Allow me to show
This is done with Weapon Specialist to guarantee the shot will crit to ensure Manstopper is active
that's a thing of beauty
Yes

The devs when
Manstopper blessing on Shotgun also buffs knife
random question... does anyone know if upgrading weapons to gold gives you better/different blessings?
Now imagine that but with Lawbringer wide shot for deleting hordes
Yes but at level 30 your 2nd blessing is going to be a rank 3 or rank 4 blessing always
So if you want a tier 2 blessing like Manstopper you either fish for blessings upgrading to blue from grey or green, or make a fresh alt and spam buy low level shotguns to upgrade instead
Kantrael shotgun my beloved...
fuuuuuu... I'm spamming for Manstopper right now and haven't had any luck
god I wish the upgrade system wasn't so shit
Yeah it is a tier 2 exclusive blessing
what blessings do you generally want on an axe?
Combat axe?
Brutal momentum + headtaker
There's a crafting rework coming at some point! No idea when though
tac axe
aight
But tac axes aren’t that good rn
I don't think Hadron gives below tier 3 blessings if you're level 30
so this thing can 1tap gunners, netters, bombers, flamers even now
brunt does though
and two tap ragers
She can on the first blessing I think. Unless I'm remembering wrong it is how I originally got Manstopper on my Vet. I could be remembering wrong though. It could have been a Brunt's store purchase since blues there often can often be seen with tier 2 blessings
so I replace Speedload and what else
I haven't rolled below a tier 3 blessing in 20 yeara
You're the ideal candidate for tech jobs. 20 years of experience for something that has only existed for 2
Unfortunately I really like working with people and making people happy
So tech jobs Don't want me
I like making people happy but I don't like working with people
If I could be a park ranger with amazing internet I would enter a forest and never leave
That's likely something datamined in Theory crafting if at all 🙂
I wait for new clothes...
I hate shopping but love swagging
17
I like having an additional down, servers can be kinda whack rn
Can't hear you over my wound curios
I'd throw in at least 1hp
So you dont get 100 - 0'd by poxburster trains
(It still happens sometimes)
its always the 3rd poxbuster that gets ya
Yeah since vet stuck with 2 bars
If you don't run a +3 stamina curio on all builds you're no friend of mine
Sounds like a win win
Love +3 stam
Need recommendation to swap perks.
First look like a kunka
This gives me 15 different vibes
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Infested -> elite
Wrath -> power cycler
The chaotic cellphone picture instead of snipping tool is my spirit animal
Hahaha im using discord at my phone. Lazy alt tab huhu
And yes this is veteran
Carapace works?
I’m just counting on tmr having weapon skins
Not perfect but serviceable
Verywell thx u
Ideally you want
Elite + power cycler IV + brutal momentum / sunder
4th perk is preferably maniac but isn’t entirely mandatory depending on ur talent tree
I kinda struggle fending horde especially the helmet herectic
Mauler? Or
Normal one
Dreg Bruiser?
Non special
im sad that this is how my 379 rolled
Me
Dreg bruiser?
When dealing those rager everthing its okay but when tried killing those smaller enemies im kinda slow
The sword like can kill fast enough
Cant×
straight up second to none for survivability, also regen on everything
Yeah because without charging it up, psword hits like a paddle
You need to power up
bruiser heads are actually kind of thick, if you don't have the damage they'll bog you down quick even with activation
Nothing wrong with some thickness
Just harder to deal with
Back to penance grind
So dont waste attack without charging it up
Yea power sword is meant to be used with power up all the time
unless you don't need it, like stabbing a dog to death
least based take
Oh wow I can't wait to cosplay as the East India Trading company in Darktide
This is exactly what we wanted.
OH HEY I CAN MAKE THAT TOP PART OF A NEW CLOWN COSTUME
Not interested in the pants though
Have you considered all curios as +3 Stam and +Stam Regen?
Sprint forever, block forever, shove forever, push attack forever, Deadshot forever
This is awkward but salvageable. Can hit the 1HKO Crusher breakpoint using the +20% Carapace. Swap No Respite and Sustained Fire to Surgical and Weight of Fire. The blessings are way more important imo
what blessings for kantrael xii bois
I can't wait to use that on my stealth vet
also, got trapped out of my ogryn charge
very annoying
headhunter and deadly accurate for vet
- flak is also a must, get either + maniac or + unyeilding with that if you can
it used to be, but now its mostly personal prefrence, I personaly prefer the 1a
hadron 😭
fuck this games dookie ass craft system man
It's the worst now
The grind is better now
eat my ass hadron
But yeah the system still sucks ass
just gotta dump like 12k plasteel into her before she become snice
Oh wow look at Mr. Moneybags here with his 12k plasteel
is that a lot
Depends on how much u gamble with hadron
I never rly accumulated very high plasteel count
Its a lot if you dont have much, not much if you have a lot
Pretty much the only time I ever had more than 5k plasteel at a time
Was before level 30
Then I hit level 30 on all my characters and plasteel went to zero
I try to keep around 1k or so.
i like running 2 toughness and one hp, the HP is a great buffer for vets lower hp imo
I personally run 2 toughness + 1 stam
I run 1 toughness 1 health 1 stam
for some reason
This is the way
Though if you run knife, two toughness and one hp would work as well
ugh
Knife without +stam just feels bad
This is also good
3 Stam curios always
The thing with building +health for burster breakpoint is that
You need 200+ health which takes +33% from curio/talent tree
If u don’t take +health from talent tree then you need to use quite a few slots on curios filled just for that 200 health breakpoint
Mk3 doesn't need it 
Mk3 best dps combo is still PA spam
No
Except it’s like 5% slower atk speed than mk6 still
Is it? Eh
There’s no difference between using heavy and L0 compared to just PA spam
Mk6 is overall a little faster in atk speed
Around 5% faster with PA spam
I always just heavy attacked
If you're just doing heavies then stick with the Mk III
My avg on crusher 3 shot with mk6 is like 3080~3150 (without trench fighter)
The strikedowns are better for that compared to the sweeping horizontal heavies of the Mk VI
On mk3 it’s around 2950~3000 smth
Push attack is what makes the Mk VI funny for stab time
They’re worse actually because it’s the same hits to kill except they come out a bit slower
Doing pure heavy spam is the same breakpoint as mk6 pure heavy spam
The only major breakpoint difference is punch > L0
Mk3 punch L0 is a lot faster
Yeah except sweeping horizontals are more likely to catch on something attempting to strike the head in a fight and if someone is spamming heavies the Mk III will more reliably (albeit more slowly) take care of it. But also just take the Mk VI and spam push attack with three Stam curios
Mk6 forces u to mix 1 atk in before u can do it again
honestly
ive foundn it less of a problem that you might think
Most elites are a lot taller than chaff
That it’s not a problem
If anything you’d be hitting 2 elites at once which is a plus
If someone doesn't wanna do push attack then just do Mk III because it's easier
If someone doesn’t wanna bother with push atk then they use H2 > punch > L0 on mk6
Which is still a little faster than mk3
Plus strikedown feels more satisfying than sweeping for killing harder targets
Mk3 highest dps combo besides PA spam ironically doesn’t use punch L0
like you're doing the samurai iaijutsu showdown
It’s H2 > L3 loop
It takes 4 hits but gets to ~2500dps on crusher
looking at the explosion is not cool
H2 > punch > L0 > H2 for mk3 is around 2300dps on crusher
Maybe 2200 if u don’t time it as good
Also mk6 with executor has smth funny going on
If you have 4 stacks of executor IV going on, u can actually hit 3 Dreg ragers at once lol
Yeah Mk VI is faster and stronger but like beyond the better math some people just like the movement of the Mk III more
Fun factor is a big part of game time
It just barely gets to >8 cleave (8.06)
Also it's really not that much stronger
Not enough to make taking the Mk III obsolete
Idk, I think it’s straight up better in most if not all areas at least for veteran
It's mostly preference unless you're shooting for funny DPS numbers in Psykanium
I agree but I once preferred the Mk III so I can understand why someone would want it over the Mk VI
Same breakpoint, better atk speed for main combos, better horde clear, more versatile moveset
Maybe for zealot / psyker mk3 gets to hit a couple better breakpoints
Power Sword VI is just so much better than Power Sword III that there's no point to using the III unless you like the moveset more
I strongly suggest u try both knives out eventually and decide which u prefer more
Push attack poke on Power Sword VI is too good
I did and I prefer the VI now LOL
But I did used to prefer the III so I understand why someone else would
Moveset feels very comfy
The VI takes practice to feel it out and enjoy it
The III feels good right out of the box
6 is more complex yea
Sometimes people just wanna no thoughts head empty and I vibe with that
If u haven’t
Blazing piety chainsword is exactly that
uh
perfect strike 
i actually think those two are a lot closer than people give it credit for
moreso than the knives actually
psword3 actually hits all the same bps except crusher
but its a 3shot so its not that much worse
Eviscerator XV with Shred/Perfect Strike is my no thoughts head empty mode on Zealot but I'll keep that idea in mind too to try out next time I am playing Clarisse
menawhile mk6 knife just has a significantly better moveset than 3 other than slightly more diagonal lights
Nah 6 is a lot better
Front 25% block efficiency and faster power up really makes a difference since the dodge sucks
yeah but you donty rely on sliding /dodging to power up 3
Chainsword is basically that but better
idk i think its really not that big of a difference
both are hella stronk
and both still feel pretty shitty on mobility without wep specialist
Yeah but big sword is weird neuron activation
Plus it's funny unlocking the hidden extra cleave on the Evis XV by activating rev
Then slapping through hordes
Objectively worse horde clear compared to standard one hand Chainswords
Meanwhile chainsword 4 gets to cleave like 24 hitmass just by spamming HHLH
Very fun to just take a giant chainsaw sword and whack everything with reckless abandon
24 cleave with crit CDR refunds 36s if you actually manage to hit that many in a Crit btw
Does that get Perfect Strike because I forgor and there's a special brain cell that goes wild everytime my Evis XV cleaves through Crushers without caring (even if it is doing nothing but stagger beyond the first target LOL)
Perfect strike not needed
U just run savage sweep + shred
Activate BP as fast as possible and you basically turn into chainsawman
But then blades get caught on maulers/crushers
btw
i actually wonder
if psword3 isnt the better sunder sword
but idk your take
Ig if u spam heavy for it the atk pattern is a little better
cause i feel like you gotta do heavies to make sunder worthwhile against 5+ elites
Though also yeah I've done the 1handed Chainsword a little bit on Zealot for very funny attack speed
I just haven't done it with Piety yet
and mk3 lines them up well
u can actually like kill 5 ragers in one activation with mk3 cause it lines their heads up easily
I think I did it with Momentum before because I was dumb and just sorta choosing that side because it has the go fast 10% move speed too
well usually more like 3 but the last two are pretty close to dead
wait no i have no melee talents on this tree
let me try an actual melee build
There is also a new backpack coming out with the new shop rotation this week?
Wack..?
whats the point of backpacks
I saw it, looks alr
you might a swell ask
what is the point of any skin that isnt a weapon
They clip with regular cosmetics too much lol
^
Not my cosmetics lol
I actually like the weapon skins they dropped recently
only time I ever had backpack clipping was 1 psyker chest with the vox pack
the laspistol one is peak
i was not gonna buy anything more but i saw it and was like
ye
I have 2 already, not getting the newest one cuz it’s rly similar to what I had
I have the green field repair one and another black one
Hoping tmr’s sets come with Helbore / headhunter skin
I got the drop trooper knife from Elysian
Love that one
buty eah
like
this actually looks really practical to me idk
and no mk6 doesnt do nearly as well
the diagonals are shit at trying to catch them all in the swings
nevermind headshotting
atrocious
like maybe if i stack them all on top of each other its ok but ragers dont move like that lol
The penance track?
yes
I feel that now
More emptiness
I bet the empty feeling exists for everyone forever
then you marry someone to feel whole
then you go back to playing video games
it's a cycle
Couldn't be me tho
i couldn’t never got that one until i put on a Last Christmas 12 hour playlist, then got it without thinking about it
i met my SO in high school and i only started feeling empty inside after college
so its the reverse order for me
:^)
got it
lemme find a last christmas 12 hour loop
I'm way too skibidi
What fresh hell...?
I bow to you then because I literally got no fucking idea how to get the last 50 poitns
do you have the twins ones done?
yup
and ass
the kill within 5 seconds
that was a tough one
nope
ask backup
cause that unlock sgood samaritan
so thats 30 pts right there
do sedition with bots
to finish that one
lul
Fuck it bro I can't
lmao i'm like 40 off
oh
I'm getting the weapon customization mod back]
nevermind
that sounds fucking azwful then
lol
i was 5 off
so i just did 5 sedition games
Whoever designed the Helbore lasguns
38 off
while holding down m1 for the last 1000 bullets
to have the worst iron sights
for ogryn lucky bullet
in all of gaming history
is the worst
I hate whoever designed the iron sights on helbores
mod them
.
but have you tried modding them
Is it worth it?
If you wanna use the helbores and literally NOT strain your eyeballs and be in pain
yes
also I've only gotta do 13 more torrent and 12 more throneside to get the 50
It genuinely causes discomfort
to use the helbores
without modding a red dot onto them
"only" 25 more missions to go :^)
well it's cope okay
Can't wait until I get the 4500 penance points so I can flex my massive gamer dick on people who don't have it
(ingame)
Wear Moebian 6th Armor with pride 
Better accuracy?
(I’m not taking Moebian 6th Armor off until they release new penance rewards)
i love the mobian fore skin helmet
(It's mine)
Personally I like the regular ass helmet
fake armor
yes I didn't hide this
One very silly build
it makes you feel cool when you unload into the slugussy
I usually unload tho
There exists a build which allows you to Onefan most monsters
hmmmm
Trying to find it
thanks love you
Found the clip
got it
From the launch of the update with the revolver so results may vary
yeah they nerfed it's penetration right?
A certified meme build
or cleave or smth
persk blessings tho?
No idea
Is a non-surgical helbore build mental? Weight of Fire and Surgical just seem to work against one another.
I appreciate your effort regardless 🙂
well we could probably start with unyielding damage
#1158835247685836853 message Message link if I know how these work
I'm not that dumb jeez
regardin this
tho you have been kinda roastin me lately
Its trickshooter and something
hand canon
Crucian roulette
I'll play around with it 🙂
Then probably weakspot or something for the 2nd perk
HADRON FUCKED ME
agri volver is nowhere near good enough to nerf
that vid is a psykarium meme
you will never actually pull that off in a real game
nor is the build probably even a good idea
if you'r egonna psyk meme anyway
dont even take crucian
just have a poxwalker you can pistol whip beside you with point blank
70% crit on every shot

that or pray you crit 51% 5 times in a row and take sustained fire or run n' gun for 20% or 10% power boost
How can we optimize this goofy bullshit
optimized is prolly one of those fan dmg boosts (sustained/run n gun) + just reset until you get a full crit
string
its only a 3% chance to pull it off
ez
ive played gachage with worse rates than that
it will be guaranteed with the god emperor's favor 
Even if it doesn't kill in an actual game it takes kraks so that monster is still ultrafucked
speaking of revolvers
Well I don't think I've ever seen a 380 at Brunt's, is this any good
nope
finesse is low
i mean
its not unusable
but its not a god roll or anything
Aw
mobility doesnt matter on knife
you can drop it as low as possible and you still wont lose a dodge
Hadron is having a diddy party with the good blessings I need
so you need the 4 dmg stats high
I've never used a knife so I was just curious, thanks for saving me a trip to the vet guide :)
np
i mean
if you wanna try
its not like its literal trash or anything
so feel free to upgrade it and give it a go
if you feel like it
more likely hadron is going to make it actual trash though

haymaker lacerate
Yeah, most of my resources are going towards trying to refine some of my items for existing builds, and get some better curios
terrifying barrage run and gun knife 
I'll worry about knives later lol
What about penetration on a rumbler
idk about ogryn weapons
Oh, duh
i only played ogryn to finish the goddamn penances
Sorry I'm going hog wild at Brunt's apparently
30000 bullets fired
np lol
i think i know stuff about this game but then i learn more here so
Ooh it's a good one
Can't pass up a nice gray roll
For power sword,whats main stat to focus on?
dmg, finesse, cleave dmg
mobility 51% or higher
cleave target is dump
because ur supposed to power up 100% the time
and powered cleave is separate from that modifier
That's too much work
i didn't know that
Why isn't there an automatic power button
how the fuck are you so fast
vitamins
First hit on "darktide creature spawner" :D
so this roll remains goated because able 51% mobility
cleave targets does affect the cleave of the special attack
and before someone asks
but the scaling is so low as to be pretty much insignificant as long as you're above 10 cleave for a non-sunder psword
I already have a bromentum one so that's why it's slaughter
what path said
its not too bad
only need 3 stats
knife and rashad are the annoyin gones
rashad even more cause you also need 50+ mobi
the we got goated plasma gun where all the stats are pretty good
Cleave dmg from blessing?




