veteran-class

[white minnow]

with my particular setup i can oneshot a bulwark but only on a crit

maybe if you do a meme setup where you stack every passive buff and with focus target you can reach the non-crit oneshot

[tall torrent]

magistragi oubliette starting long catwalk

[pseudo fiber]

plasma gun

[severe gale]

the mission where at the end you get the ammo cans from the trains, when you get the final cans in the valkaryie a big horde will come from the door you originally come in from, throw a grenade or 2 at a high arc and you should get it

with the brittleness on hit talent columnus or recon can work

theres a clip somewhere of it killing a crusher in like 1 second

[pseudo fiber]

you can do a niche recon build I suppose
#veteran-class message

[severe gale]

yeah there it is

thanks

[tribal tangle]

its powderburn on the shredder auto any good?

[hearty panther]

hypothetically

[tall torrent]

no

[rancid swan]

Thank you

[rancid swan]

Thanks

[hidden torrent]

The worst part about the Zealot penances is that they're time consuming

Like the Ogryn one

Just takes fucking forever

[rancid swan]

I'm realizing this myself. As I now have to lvl up my zealot

[tall torrent]

plasma, zarona revolver, helbore mk3
although generally ur not supposed to rely on ranged weapon for carapace dmg

[hidden torrent]

Press G

And if you don't use Krak grenade you're incorrect

[last parcel]

it's me

incorrect

[hidden torrent]

I'll put you into a home go back into your cage

Non-Krak users on suicide watch

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-unhand-me-woman-hold-carry-gif-8415894682189187146

[tame lodge]

They are going to choke on my smoke

[hidden torrent]

Basically, Krak grenades are good at everything and even have auto aim

If you're bad with Krak grenades idk what to say

[hollow ibex]

Lol that's frags

[hidden torrent]

What

[hollow ibex]

You heard me

[hidden torrent]

You can miss a krak grenade by a Mile and it just floats back to your target

Well no I didn't hear anyhting actually

[hollow ibex]

Talking about grenades being good at everything

That's frags

[hidden torrent]

Other than dealing damage to enemies that aren't naked sure

[hollow ibex]

Nah they good at everything

[hidden torrent]

I ain't never seen no frag kill a mauler, crusher, reaper

[hollow ibex]

They don't need to

[white minnow]

frags are killing maulers

[hidden torrent]

The just kinda think about things for a second

[white minnow]

cuz they just have a flak body

[hidden torrent]

What difficulty? I've never seen this

[white minnow]

two shredder frags are unlikely to kill if you aren't gaming it with damage buffs

but three will

[hollow ibex]

Krak is dogshit against anything except the super big guys

[hidden torrent]

That's why you use PD

Ps

[hollow ibex]

Frag is effective everywhere

[hidden torrent]

It's good at everything else

Then plasma

Ezpz

[white minnow]

i prefer frags against mauler packs since they have a larger radius of effectiveness

or if you're in the business of using them for stagger, frags is better since it also has a larger stagger radius

[hidden torrent]

I just press F and PS them

[white minnow]

power sword?

[hidden torrent]

Yessir

[white minnow]

yeah that works

[hidden torrent]

Kills em quite fast

[white minnow]

i do it as well

[hollow ibex]

Then frag would be better tbh

[hidden torrent]

I'll forever be krak pilled

[white minnow]

but i still prefer frags over kraks

just more generalist

[hidden torrent]

They're good at boss killing too

Especially if you have a combat stim

[hollow ibex]

There's a reason why frags are considered the meta grenade

[white minnow]

it's fine but the stagger is the main thing

since what you do with kraks can be done in two psword hits, in terms of damage

[hollow ibex]

Yup

[hidden torrent]

When I tag a boss, hit a stim and throw 3 kraks, it tends to be just about dead

Unless it's blessed

I will forever be krak pilled, call me anti meta

[white minnow]

sure

i'm not criminalizing you for using them

i use kraks as well, albeit for point reasons

[hidden torrent]

Well I know you aren't

But I'm acting like a martyr because it's funnier

[tame lodge]

Boy I say boy lemme tell you something about self-martyrs

[hollow ibex]

Krak is funny yes

[late hatch]

Im using kraks atm for the penance and its painful trying to remember to use them differently

[hollow ibex]

I like running it sometimes

[tall torrent]

frag is better in 90% situations

krak is a lot more niche in application but it's very handy in the right situation

[hidden torrent]

Good thing my kit does everything else well but the gap I miss is Krak grenades

[tall torrent]

if u haven't, try running knife/shovel with uncanny strike and see what frags do to mixed hordes

[hidden torrent]

See it's funny, maybe I'm just a naturally good vet or something, but at first I mained Zealot and did okay, then Ogryn and played ogryn for about 400 levels and now I am maining vet and just destroying my way through Auric Maelstrom solo queue

Like I said, maybe vet was just my style all along but I feel like the role I like to fill js better done by other classrs

[tall torrent]

vet is the non-specialized class who's good at everything

[late hatch]

I just played with a glugger duo, and im not running surv lol

[hidden torrent]

They hate you

[late hatch]

Idk why you would duo gluggers

[hidden torrent]

RP

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-teacher-i-hate-you-in-chinese-you-are-ugly-in-chinese-you-are-a-liar-in-chinese-gif-26687429

[hidden torrent]

Maybe even ERP

[late hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[last parcel]

where's the celery stick

[tall torrent]

am almost done with ranged weapon pages

[tall torrent]

I am gonna give boltgun some not so good ratings

[last parcel]

[tall torrent]

guess what weapon is this

[last parcel]

plasma

[tall torrent]

[last parcel]

ciag

scrier's gaze

[hidden torrent]

Revolver

[last parcel]

mike hawk

[tall torrent]

revolver would have maxed out rating in "special"

[hidden torrent]

So would I if I was on that chart

[last parcel]

[hidden torrent]

I never realized the Crusher was god tier

I've been living my life in shambles

[tall torrent]

zealot's crusher?

[hidden torrent]

Yes

[tall torrent]

it's been top tier since they buffed it

top 2 zealot melee imo

[last parcel]

i think i played only zealot for a week after i figured it out

[hidden torrent]

Never played Zealot since Beta

Which is unfortunate since Ogryn is essentially a self insert of me into darktide

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/byeah-jerma-jerma985-meeting-of-the-byeahs-gta-march-gif-14221033

[hidden torrent]

So I always play it

[hidden torrent]

Why do you have a gif for everything on hand

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-less-you-know-better-gif-14302478

[tall torrent]

he's not called backup for nothing

[hidden torrent]

That's the funniest gif I've ever seen

I'm actually crying ngl

I'm just built like a Gorilla, the more you look the more you see it, short legs long arms, large torso

So I feel obligated to play Ogryn, contractually

[hexed cloak]

i played psyker because i mained sienna in vermintide and it just felt natural, also i like my high risk high reward playstyle

[hidden torrent]

You mean smite and don't ever turn around

Sounds right to me

[hexed cloak]

nah fuck smite

[frank ether]

the problem I find is I can't really treat it like a solution to lacking good carapace damage

[tall torrent]

it's a compliment to builds that don't kill carapace that fast but doesn't entirely fix the lack of carapace dmg

[frank ether]

but its ok, it has some strong boss stunlock memes

like say I made a loadout with iLas+devil claw

kraks dont fix the issue

[tall torrent]

I was using it with knife, helps kill multiple crushers much quicker

[frank ether]

I only have two of em and game drops like 10 armored things

[tall torrent]

[frank ether]

honestly lasguns in general are rather subpar anyways

[tall torrent]

I tried MG1a

I think if suppression immunity was vet's baseline trait

it'd be a lot better

[frank ether]

yeah I suppose so

that would save a talent

[terse idol]

Pretty goooo

Anywho

[tall torrent]

once u see the ranged weapon pages you'll get why

[frank ether]

suppression not so huge a problem with some guns but iLas suffers a lot from it

[terse idol]

I mean I think suppression immunity is like mandatory for ilas

Especially since you're probably going down exe and mf anyways

[frank ether]

game should move away from making weapons feel subpar and feel bad to shoot

[terse idol]

How do you like gain information on that though

The ia feels good to use for me

Headshot machine

[frank ether]

''headshot machine''

scope wildly bouncing meanwhile

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/they-know-me-for-my-gif-5315081

[hidden torrent]

What he's saying is the weapon play feels bad because everything is a bullet sponge

Which does have weight

[terse idol]

I mean

The ilas

Makes up for in breakpoints

Everything goes down in 1 or 2 shots

And I mean...

[hidden torrent]

Not everything clearly

[terse idol]

The recoil isn't bad

[frank ether]

its not ''recoil''

[terse idol]

Again quantifying these things are hard

It's view kick

[frank ether]

its just the gun wildly bouncing around on your screen

there is no real recoil to control

there is no mastery

[terse idol]

Well yeah it's a point and click adventure

With no real carapace/boss killing

[frank ether]

you put talent points that make the gun bounce less and pretend like you can now aim well

thats darktides problem with gunplay

its the same issue with braced weapons

[last parcel]

skirmisher

[hidden torrent]

Accatran user in shambles

[last parcel]

I need ammo!

[hidden torrent]

No!

[terse idol]

Uh

What talents am I spending

For an ilas

Maybe I'll read the bulk of this convo

But I... really didn't feel like the ilas was that bad

Or even mediocre,it's fine

Good even

[tall torrent]

is this a reddit post

[tall torrent]

boltgun:

[dapper agate]

No, I just made it in ms paint.

[tall torrent]

Oh
It’s not that accurate but I see ur vision

[dapper agate]

How so? It does a shit ton of damage to monsters. It can also delete elites.

[frank ether]

you could remove most of those talents and the gun would still do that

also skirmish is a waste of point

[dapper agate]

Yes, but it's funny to stack damage and do it even faster.

[tall torrent]

Skirmisher is bad uptime in practice (stacks from sprint, 1 stack per second, only lasts 5s)

Weapon specialist’s ranged crit chance bonus only applies to first shot, which in Columnus Mk5’s case gives you 5 crits (5-string)

Surprise attack is a fairly low value node but if you had to juice as much Dmg as possible in a short amount of time I guess you can take that

Precision strikes (not taken here) is great value for Columnus mk5 due to its high finesse values. Same goes for +5% crit chance and debatably Reciprocity or Deadshot, since the gun has long crit string and high finesse so your crit weakspot hits are very deadly

[last parcel]

I assumed they were going after the fire rate increase there

[tall torrent]

It’s not gonna make a huge difference in “prioritizing Dmg” because it only lasts 5s and half of that time is spent reloading (2.5s). Just doesn’t math out to allow u to shoot 2 mags within 5s

Might as well go focus target + redirect fire for more Dmg

[last parcel]

oh yeah there's no shock trooper in ciag

[frank ether]

you're not gonna get the best boss killer build like this

but it will be fine

[hoary horizon]

You lil uns oka?

[dapper agate]

Skirmisher works well in this build where I basically run behind groups of elites and mag dump them.

Firerate boost is also nice.

Surprise Attack prevents them aggroing as much, allows for raking fire to work better.

NotAddingPrecisionStrikesToEveryBuildImpossibleChallenge

[frank ether]

can you imagine how broken that would be

[last parcel]

drum mag

[idle swallow]

using too many numbahs... make bone 'ead implant feel hot

[tall torrent]

Skirmisher’s value is just way too low in general, I’d suggest you swap for crit chance related stuff

[hoary horizon]

Ye can feeñ brains hurt. Here tip. Do as told an don fink bout it

[tall torrent]

This whole picture centres around Dmg stacking for a grand total of 5s

[last parcel]

i finish quickly

[frank ether]

Kinda reminds me of the funny agri revolver boss killer build, that was also the same idea, 5 second dmg stack with exec

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo finish quick too. Lotsa shooting kill them good

[dapper agate]

Here's the full build if you want to try it.

[tall torrent]

Difference is that gun actually can kill in 5s

[feral jetty]

VETS I hope yall are having a fantastic night/day or else I will give you an ogryn™️ hug

[frank ether]

and it still wasnt good in practice

[tall torrent]

You play knife with this?

[dapper agate]

No catachan IV.

[tall torrent]

Take serrated blade off then

[dapper agate]

Is good for damage ticks on Onslaught

[frank ether]

that no longer works

[last parcel]

💀

[dapper agate]

ffs

[tall torrent]

Onslaught doesn’t stack from DOT anymore

It’s not been a thing for like 2 patches

[frank ether]

yeah they nerfed that interaction

[dapper agate]

why does fatshark do stupid stuff like this

[frank ether]

Idk

serrated blade I only ever take on my knife now

dead talent otherwise

[dapper agate]

oh well guess I'll use the point for more crit

[frank ether]

that is the way

you want crits as often as possible on iags

if not crits then weakspot at least

when you hit a finesse shot you do more than double the damage

[dapper agate]

Yeah it's like 3.5x or something like that

[tall torrent]

Also comp urge is a pretty low value node overall due to lack of predictability

[frank ether]

I think its fine to take but if the idea is to pump as much dmg as possible within 5 seconds, there are probably better nodes

[tall torrent]

Yea because it’s pretty mid in like everything else lol

It’s alr on zealot kinda

[dapper agate]

Depends what your team mates bring, like if you have someone with CC weapons it can proc pretty often.

[umbral granite]

If i get put on another team of 3 loner stealth zealots One more time, I will let them stay dead and do the mission solo.

4 games in a row

[tall torrent]

In auric damnation?

[dapper agate]

Yeah sucks to get the loner stealth zealots that don't know how to play loner stealth zealot properly, which is at least half of the loner stealth zealots I come across.

[umbral granite]

I will figure it out!
It's less of a headache to do a tough mission solo then doing a tough mission while babysitting 3 idiots.

[frank ether]

loner aura is one of those things that shouldn't exist

I mean I'm not a fan of coherency either but its just dumb to have an aura dedicated to ignoring coherency

[umbral granite]

Half...?
In my nearly 800 hours of playing darktide, i've maybe met 2 loner stealth zealots who knew what they were doing, and one of them probably doesn't count, because they were playing hammer-zealot and forgot to adjust their skill tree.

[crude fiber]

its pretty helpful for clutches after everyone else dies but any other time it encourages a dangerous play style

[dapper agate]

Could be a regional thing, aussie loner stealth zealots know how to play at least half the time.

[umbral granite]

Counter point: If your aura is at it's strongest when the rest of your team is dead and needs a revive, wouldnt it be better to equip an aura that makes your team harder to kill?

[crude fiber]

its literally called loner not sure anyone taking it cares about the rest of the team

your right but they put it in the game and added penaces for using it so people are gonna use it

[dapper agate]

They should buff it to help reduce the liability of the idiots who run off and die (they'll do this regardless of the aura existing), maybe it should make bleeding out take twice as long so the allies have plenty of time to revive their dumbasses.

[crude fiber]

does it always add +1 to your coherency up to 4 or does it only activate while alone?

[idle swallow]

Getting downed out of coherency with loner on plays a global laugh track

[dapper agate]

I think it just can't go below 2 coherency.

[crude fiber]

could make it so you add +1 to coherency for the whole team while in coherency and let coherency go to 5

[umbral granite]

Now I am wondering how many talents that benefit from "for each ally in coherency" there are in the game for that to break...

[crude fiber]

i cant think of any that are based on amount of people in coherency. aren't most of them just for being in coherency in general? theres the 1 vet talent for TDR

[umbral granite]

I belive theres an ogryn one that deals with heavy meele attack

[crude fiber]

id assume it still cap at 4 max and would make it easier to reach that limit if someone else strayed away. this is all hypothetical anyway i doubt they're gonna touch loner for a long time if ever

[umbral granite]

Side note: I got yelled at over mic today because I killed whatever specialist/elite the loner-stealth zealot was going after right as they were about to backstab

It was my friend and i was trolling him

[crude fiber]

good, daily reminder to annoy your friends

[bitter turtle]

Loner is just kinda meh even if you're playing as a loner

2 coherency doesn't offer much

The passive regen is kinda whatever when you're presumably in the thick of things

[crude fiber]

meh, id take it over no toughness regen. the odd round from shooters hitting me while sliding around can be real annoying while at 0 toughnes

[bitter turtle]

Well yes it's better than literally nothing, but toughness dmg reduction is probably way more useful still even as a loner

It's just a meh aura when zealot has a gorillion ways to restore toughness just by breathing

That's just how I feel playing a lot of stealth vet and zealot

I don't think I ever really go "yeah I'm so glad I get a trickle of toughness" in a backline dive

[crude fiber]

im mostly playing devils advocate, i only ran loner for as long as i needed to complete the penances for it

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/avocado-i-love-avocados-avocados-gif-12742251715880700743

[austere pine]

still got 0 clue where the enclavum baross puzzle is

looked for it in the place it was supposed to be, it wasn't htere

some videos maybe?

[tame lodge]

Fr, Second Wind is right there

[austere pine]

oh i fucking see it

[crude fiber]

need 2 people for it, 1 for the parkour the other for flipping switches

[terse idol]

It should honestly flick on and off between loner and something else when you are in coherency

[tall torrent]

https://youtu.be/Jlpv5BumKi8?si=Ol1uD58xDBWH8pV6

[tall torrent]

baross is solo

the duo one is archivum

[woeful ibex]

godbless Jay-Brodi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utRjaTehbgc

Vidoes helped me with farming

[austere pine]

devil's claw fun

very fun

way too fun i feel

shit damage to cara though

[frank ether]

also shit damage to flak

movesets really fun

[austere pine]

with how many enemies it can stagger in the hands of my zealot, shit flak damage doesn't matter

[frank ether]

but it sure was not made to cut through armor lmao

[austere pine]

if it takes me 2 minutes to kill a bruiser pack, so be it

[frank ether]

zealot gets to cheat

they can build it for crit and downgrade armor in general with chargee

[austere pine]

i did also get this beast as one of my first rolls

[frank ether]

I rolled an ungodly number of d.claws

[terse idol]

+flak

[frank ether]

still terrible

[austere pine]

nothing will save its carapace damage

[terse idol]

It mitigates at leeeast

[frank ether]

you think I don't put flak on it?

[terse idol]

I think everyone puts flak on it

[austere pine]

not putting flak and maniac on it is a disgrace to the weapon line

[oblique totem]

Rip and tear

[midnight totem]

4200 penance score

woot

[split sapphire]

I have yet a long road still for penace score

[austere pine]

if i see another speed knife zealot not dealing with crushers while us other 3 are forced to fight them with our devil's claws and whatever else, i will riot

[oblique totem]

Do it anyway. They won't learn until there are consequences.

[austere pine]

i wanted to vote kick them because they were always perma ahead without really clearing any threats (which is what i do when doing that playstyle)

and i had to return like 3 times to pick up either of the 2 poor sods that weren't me or the other zealot

actually painful jeezus

[oblique totem]

You're a hero.

[austere pine]

we were fighting a plague ogryn in 3 people and the knife zealot just kept cranking the hog

i don't know what they were doing but they were not doing dmg

me with my garbage devil's claw and the psyker were the ones doing stuff

as for crushers, they were standing above us tossing knives

[oblique totem]

There's a lot of pain in that statement

[rancid swan]

By the power of the God emperor and a stroke of luck. I got Long bomb completed. I just took a chance and yeeted the frag across a large room and Boom. I got it

[last parcel]

that's how it's done

none of this lining up the throw with the 3rd line on the carpet to hit window

[rancid swan]

Did it on Refinery Delta-17. Saw a small group coming and I was standing by the door you have to go through to reach extraction.

I just quickly lined it up and next thing I know Penace completed. "Long Bomb

Also finished like 3 others in the same mission so. 100% worth the hassle of surviving a hersy lvl mission

[midnight totem]

Congrats

It's pretty easy to get long bomb, it's just not something people think about often

Why grenade group of enemies 100 feet away, when there's stuff in your face demanding attention and all that

[rancid swan]

Also random note. I walked away from my computer and I come back and I see an ogryn standing by the mission terminal. Wearing underwear and a mask...

I wish I could make this up..

[hidden torrent]

I got my long bomb fighting the boss in Magistratti Oublette

From the elevator to the top right scaffold spawn

[midnight totem]

I got mine in chasm logistratum

Grenaded the entry point from the Valkyrie

[rancid swan]

So another question are you supposed to go straight down to get the stuff at the bottom of the Talent tree or can you get the little bonuses scattered around cause. Upon reaching rank 30 I haven't gotten any more points

[hidden torrent]

You go left to right

You'll figure it out, more fun that way

[late hatch]

It really depends on your build, you can go without keystones, there are several really strong nodes that are in most builds, like nade regen

[rancid swan]

Yeah I've made like 5 sets none touching a keystone but can each hold their own in their own way.

[late hatch]

Each is better for diff weapon combos, Marksmans focus is the only annoying one that you really have to change your playstyle for

Weap specialist bottom right is probably the strongest.

[rancid swan]

I went straight down the middle for my fist one now. It's more based around staying next to people pretty much. Toughness and staying together. Which is pretty much how I play any way. Every kill especially specialist ones grant toughness

Here I thought it was like a you just keep getting points the more you play. Even past 30 you just have to choose one of the 3 bottom tress to go down.

Nope. Straight down. Pick one. Which is fair

[cerulean bane]

just had a Vet that spammed the laspistol the whole mission with 0 ammo left..? is that a bug or a legit build? he's been calling out of ammo for at least half the match

[gilded wraith]

Maybe Make Every Shot Count penance?

[cerulean bane]

as in hes has been non-stop shooting with 0 ammo left half the match and did not pick up anything

[woeful ibex]

@cerulean bane Hack

I saw some people use actual hacks like that

theres is another one with Ogryns using the Grenade Launcher

[cerulean bane]

iirc the Ogryn one was using the Lucky Bullet or whatever its called trait?

not familiar with Vets traits, but can the aura alone let him spam the weapon?

[elder fiber]

no, after nerf at the very most you're getting 1% of ammo once every 5 seconds from valid targets

so if they're truly nonstop shooting with no ammo its hacking

[late hatch]

Nah you bind fire to scroll or a macro and spam it super fast

[frank ether]

no, especially not after the nerf

[terse idol]

He was asking ammo

[terse idol]

Not anymore but like, if you run a ilas

And shocktrooper

Headhunter

Like I ran a weird meme build yesterday with exe, mf and Fire teamv

And I only grabbed a few ammo bags

(Survivalist is still superior howevrr)

But it's neat

Ilas is ammo positive

[tall torrent]

I finished all ranged weapons for vet in the guide

only 2 sections to go

[last parcel]

[tall torrent]

curios & builds

[last parcel]

recommend triple wound curio for suicide bomber plasma build

[tall torrent]

all necessary hyperlinks are done too

plasma

[last parcel]

i don't know why i did this

[night ermine]

I fw this

[last parcel]

somehow, this doesn’t surprise me

[night ermine]

wow, it’s like that then

im kidding

i need more art like that

[hidden torrent]

Poopcummer is a wild name

[last parcel]

i see you're sleeping tight

[hidden torrent]

Fuck off i have insomnia

[last parcel]

[hidden torrent]

Sorry can't respond, mewing rn

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-mask-stare-chin-gif-1073719021335313742

[agile forge]

Is plasma really only worth taking Flak Elite on?

[shadow aurora]

Could take unyielding for boss dmg

[agile forge]

I need to build a new one i guess

[bitter turtle]

its not a hack

shocktrooper can still proc at 0 bullets

[shadow aurora]

Running on fumes

[bitter turtle]

yeah

basically

its not as goofy as the lucky bullet thing so pretty sure that'sw hy only a few people noticed

since unlike that one its actually a dps loss, not a gain

lol

[north pebble]

finally crafted a decent HH

stopping power is an issue though

[rigid pilot]

Is it?

[north pebble]

some might say it's bricked but it depends on how it feels ingame

[grand perch]

so...close

[last parcel]

[abstract storm]

This dropped in a mission. Should I keep it and consecrate and refine or just rip Shattering Impact from it?

[trim hemlock]

Rip SI off IMO, that Stopping power is staggeringly low

[abstract storm]

I figured. Also had this fucking thing drop so now I'm more angry...

[snow cypress]

Combat swords are quite op aren't they?

I mean you can almost avoid demonhost attack when you activated it

[trim hemlock]

I wouldn’t say that a weapon that requires you to somewhat directly respond to enemy attacks with a special button activation is OP, but Catachan swords are definitely OK

[trim hemlock]

It’s not great either, so nothing of value is/will be lost

[snow cypress]

I mean the knife idk if I've mistaken the name

[trim hemlock]

[snow cypress]

._.

[trim hemlock]

Combat blades are definitely one of the weapons in Darktide

Good ones, too, but mostly associated with memey speedrun Zealots and bleed setups

[snow cypress]

I've been proving it

And omg i love that gameplay as vet

[snow cypress]

and which weapon were you talking about?

[trim hemlock]

“Devil’s Claw” Catachan swords

[snow cypress]

ohhhh

[trim hemlock]

The ones with riposte special button

[snow cypress]

ohhhhh

They are good

But nothing compares to the speed of the knifes

As my aim sucks,this is the only way I can play vet lol

[agile forge]

Knives need good aim lol

gotta be able to hit weakspots with it consistently

[marble yew]

i mustve spent like over 2 million dockets right now trying to hunt a good plasma with 78+ damage and 78+ stopping power now

some dude said those were important breakpoints

curio with more ordo dockets as a reward is starting to seem pretty tempting right about now

[umbral granite]

Did they make it so smaller characters take more knockback from barrels...? My psyker (who is very short) gets thrown arround like the ogryns rock when standing too close to the fire-barrels, but my Zealot (who is max height) only gets knocked half a knife-dodge worth of distance if she's using a yellow barrel as cover.

[steel lagoon]

This worked reliably for me and for a guy I helped later

[austere pine]

literally the easiest thing to do

auto aim for heads i swear

i go for a backstab where i dont even see the bulwark's, reaper's or crusher's head and i get a weak spot hit

[snow cypress]

Then,I'm weird

[austere pine]

depends on your characters position in relation to the barrel but then again, different heights have different hitboxes

[snow cypress]

I can aim better with the knife than with a weapon LOL

[austere pine]

and, for example in minecraft, getting hit by an explosion from certain heights makes you take no damage/knockback

though why a character with a lower center of mass gets knocked around more is beyond me

[snow cypress]

I'm not that weird XD

[austere pine]

weird as in..?

[snow cypress]

that i can't aim with weapons but i can with the knife

For me is far easier

[dreamy scaffold]

i can aim with everything

[woven vigil]

Currently trying to do the Markman Focus penance (2500 kills while on 10 stacks) and ngl, having an awul time with it.

Does anyone here have a shooty/marksman build I could try that doesn't make me feel like a wet noodle who goes down from 2 light slaps from a poxwalker?

Currently trying to make the left tree along with Columnus IAG work but its bit of a slog. Maybe I am missing something?

Ironically, middle tree with VoC and right tree with Stealth seemed to work for me perfectly, it's just the left one that I don't seem to use correctly..

[lilac eagle]

You can easily make a hybrid build, but if you want to go in on Marksman you have to pick up the stam on dodge + toughness on specialist kills. Unfortunately you will just be a glass cannon in melee, but spamming dodges will enable you to deal with pretty much any melee threat. Just be careful not to dodge yourself into a corner.

[dreamy scaffold]

remember that last part, so very important😭

[lilac eagle]

A decent powersword will carry you. Just back dodge, charge, swing and repeat. Ragers will get locked into their animation as you back dodge so you'll always be able to land the charged hit without taking damage.

[woven vigil]

Alright. I mostly used Rashad on my vet builds but gonna give a P.sword a try

[lilac eagle]

Ragers are honestly the only threats in melee, everything else is too slow

[woven vigil]

Ye ragers been bullying me in melee on this vet haha

[lilac eagle]

Whenever I see ragers I just immediately swap targets to focus them. Assuming you're not terrible at landing shots it'll only take 2 - 3 body shots to kill them, sometimes 1 tapping if you headshot, and then you can swap back to whoever is in your face

[woven vigil]

Yup, usually try to prioritize them with my shooting ability

What ranged you using on this build btw?

[lilac eagle]

Kentrael XII, lemme find the pics

This is a crit build, focused almost entirely on ranged damage and crit change, so its not 100% optimal

But I enjoy it

Drop rending on marksmans for confirmed kill tho

[woven vigil]

Oh yeah lasguns are pretty good ammo efficiency wise, so guessing thats why survivalist is probs not needed there

[lilac eagle]

The 'lasgun crits consume no ammo' feat is goated here

[woven vigil]

How long did it take you to finish thr Markman Focus penance with this one? I am on like 1000/2500 and hate the fact that I have to stand still for a bit or crabwalk around in order to not lose stacks

Like sure i can place my headshots when needed and all to be able to run, but its still bit of a slog lol

[lilac eagle]

Booting up Darktide now, lemme see if I've even managed it lmao

[crude fiber]

If you have/can make a make a lawbringer shotgun with the man-stopper and scattershot blessings you can spam the special shot into hoards. That's how I did it

[lilac eagle]

Fucking lmao I have 130/2500

I am dogshit at my own playstyle

[woven vigil]

Haha no worries, I am gonna give your build a try later and see if it maybe works for me better too

[woven vigil]

I'll see if I can get a decent Lawbringer in Hadron's casino later

[bitter turtle]

just crabwalk

seriously

saves you a lot of time

crabwalk into horde and shank them

at 10 stacks

melee kills count

[bright cliff]

is there a workaround to the krak penance

[bitter turtle]

yes

[bright cliff]

I feel like I’m going to be doing it forever

[bitter turtle]

use it the exact opposite way you're supposed to

[crude fiber]

If that's all your using it for the perks won't matter too much. Just try to get good damage, stopping power, and ammo stats

[bitter turtle]

scab bruisers and shooters count

as in the scab trash mobs

so group them up

annd try to blow up mutliple at once

dont waste it on crushers and bulwarks because that will take you forever

[bright cliff]

how many do you average per match that way

[crude fiber]

Take twinned blast

[bitter turtle]

idr

i finished it though

[bright cliff]

fax

[bitter turtle]

besides the part where i basically have no grenade

it wasnt that bad

[crude fiber]

Twinned blast was a half joke but taking every other grenade talent is a good idea

[bright cliff]

someone else will deal with crushers

[bitter turtle]

just bring a loadout that is ifne without nades

preferably something mobile too

so you can get to the trash mobs first

https://i.gyazo.com/e4055a05ca4ebccb9e4ad814694ba496.png
I did it with this and laspistol

just bring a melee that can kill carapace

[bright cliff]

probably going to have to save it for last tbh

sucks that you can’t also grind out a keystone penance at the same time

vet tree too clunky

[crude fiber]

You could do marksman if you drop the 2 bottom right perks and try the lawbringer style. Your build is gonna suck ass but at least you'll be doing 2 things at once lol

[bitter turtle]

you can

just drop the melee nodes

ye

[bright cliff]

I’ve already finished zealot and ogryn

[bitter turtle]

you can drop field improv too

its not that important

drop those 3 and you can get marksman + camoflauge

and then do crabwalk meme

[bright cliff]

would have started sooner but I got burnt out doing the lucky bullet meme

will probably end up doing crabwalk meme

[bitter turtle]

you can also drop demo team instead if you want to hog the ammo crates

lol

[bright cliff]

anyone here completed the penance battle pass yet

[bitter turtle]

yeah

a few people

[old quail]

i have

[bitter turtle]

im still 400 away becaus ei cannot fucking stand playing oger

[old quail]

the most entertaining part was completing the marksman penance in 1 match

[bright cliff]

do you just have do 100% every class

[lilac eagle]

So in 1 mission, that we died in lmao, I got about 150~ kills toward the penance

Actually trying to get 10 stacks lol

[bitter turtle]

you dont HAVE to but its probably easier than 100% some of the other categories

[old quail]

you don't have to do all the penances, total point count is a little over 4800

[bitter turtle]

like the tour of duty ones

[old quail]

the class ones take less time than the super grindy ones though yea

[bright cliff]

have you finished all the class penances?

[old quail]

i did

[lilac eagle]

I reckon if we actually succeeded that mission, I would've got 200 ~ 250 kills toward the penance

[old quail]

some in ways i am not proud of

i did marksman in 1 match by standing still at the end of smelter complex and meleeing trash for 15 mins

[lilac eagle]

I got the first marksman penance, the one that gives you the kicks, in my first week of playing lmao

Never managed to get the torso piece tho

[tall torrent]

I did

[tall torrent]

Not needed

Max is 4855 rn

[bright cliff]

interesting

[tall torrent]

[woven vigil]

Wait it counts melee kills as well so long as I am on 10 stacks?

[tall torrent]

Any kill at 10 stacks

[fluid solstice]

Psyker channel talks stats. Veteran channel talks stats but in a cynical tone. Ogryn channel talks guns. Zealot channel is memes. (Furry ones.)

I love it here

[hoary horizon]

ogryn not always guns, phyli-o_sophie-cal

[fluid solstice]

Hi Ulgo!

[hoary horizon]

hullo!

am here cuz bored

[fluid solstice]

Same tho

[hoary horizon]

wished was home killing heretic an doin penances

[sinful swallow]

Man cleave is a brunt blessing basically, t2 only

[fluid solstice]

We need to start giving names to different squad compositions.

[hoary horizon]

ye

4 ogryn is "da squad"

[fluid solstice]

Three zealots and a psyker: Fratricide. Four psykers: Seance. Three ogryn and a vet: daycare

[hoary horizon]

daycare like it lots

[sinful swallow]

4 zeal is just a mission

[crude fiber]

4 vets is a scavenger hunt

[sinful swallow]

Patrol

I can't decide between the chainaxes

[midnight totem]

4 vets is

[fluid solstice]

A psyker and four ogryns is the mother hen, and a vet, a psyker and two ogryn are mom and dad

[midnight totem]

THE GUAAAARDDD

[crude fiber]

The new 1 for niche 1 shots, the old 1 for all around use

[sinful swallow]

Old can hit the one shots too (that I care about)

[sinful swallow]

you prefer the 4 for when its cutting down chaff?

[fluid solstice]

Ooh ooh wait four stealth zealots is a pride parade

[hoary horizon]

no

4 stealth shoties is a stink

[crude fiber]

I dont know the mks of them. The original with heavy sweeps is better for hoard clear imo

[umbral scaffold]

4 vets is a squad

[midnight totem]

If we get a 2 handed power sword I might be able to kill abbadon

[fluid solstice]

Scavenger hunt is the funniest answer but this is also correct

[woeful ibex]

I wished we get the full helmets

[fluid solstice]

Two zealots and two psykers is the loony bin

[somber axle]

idk why people say Lucky Bullet is awful

using an Achlys Stubber in quickplay Damnation and progress hasn't felt slow at all

this is much easier and much more fun to do than Loner Zealot penance and goes faster than Krak for sure

[dreamy scaffold]

is there any easy way to do Long Bomb

biggest downside to swapping from gamepass to steam has got to be Long Bomb penance

[somber axle]

throw it like straight up into the air kinda and let it fall back down to explode just over a horde

[dreamy scaffold]

much easier said that done in practice

i got it before purely out of luck

and wasnt even trying to get it, i had forgot out of rage

[somber axle]

Or like just go to the bridge level with the spotlights

throw across bridge when horde spawns

[woeful ibex]

I hate the 5k kills

[dreamy scaffold]

mfw i have to use exec stance (im NOT good with it)

[fluid solstice]

I started w exec stance and slowly realized I wasn’t that great at it

[dreamy scaffold]

i love initiative and voice both for similar reasons

1. toughness regen
2. really good “i dont want to deal with this” button

[fluid solstice]

Oh I’m being swarmed? I have a keybinding to fix that

[dreamy scaffold]

initiative is really good

[dreamy scaffold]

“4 ragers? time to ninja bomb”

[fluid solstice]

Being able to instantly revive a downed teammate is clutch too.

[dreamy scaffold]

revive all downed teammates

the ultimate clutch button

thats why i dont support vet hate

[fluid solstice]

Fr I’ve saved games with it

[dreamy scaffold]

they have an ability that gives all toughness, and can instantly revive everyone

and stun all enemies in the radius

[fluid solstice]

I want to learn how to stealth vet but the problem is I suck at it

It can be almost as good a free revive as the voice tho

[dreamy scaffold]

i say i want to learn how to use knife or any other “meta” weapon but… damn this chainsword rev build is really good

[fluid solstice]

Chainaxe is elite

[dreamy scaffold]

chainsword best allrounder

i can strive both in crowd control and single target

not aswell as a zealot with hammer or ogryn but

still way better than just some dude with a knife or axe

or psword imo

i dont really like psword, never did

[fluid solstice]

I really want to like it but it just feels like a worse chainsword

[dreamy scaffold]

im much more comfortable with a chainsword and a revolver

[dreamy scaffold]

since they changed the special it got really bad, still a somewhat okay weapon

launch psword:

launch psword was the end all be all

[fluid solstice]

Okay but shovel and devils claw

New shovel that is

[dreamy scaffold]

no can do big man, big damage number make me feel good

[fluid solstice]

Devils claw can parry ragers thoooo

[dreamy scaffold]

i understand that they strive in pretty much the same situations, cant do it

[dreamy scaffold]

just dodge

dont get hit

words to live by

[fluid solstice]

But the die when i parry them

Like immediately

[dreamy scaffold]

300 hours gameplay and all i can say is: just dodge

[dreamy scaffold]

yeah devil claw is good for that

but what about other situations?

3 crushers, 3 maulers, 4 ragers

a BoN

a horde

all at the same time?

[fluid solstice]

Krak grenade, revolver.

[dreamy scaffold]

exactly

[fluid solstice]

Devils claw clears the horde

[dreamy scaffold]

realistically, any weapon can handle that situation i described

other than knife maybe

dunno

[terse idol]

You can parry crushers ues

[dreamy scaffold]

i love how the “meta” weapons that have high damage are only after everything else you have to do to make it good, chainsword is just a sword

[terse idol]

I mean, many melee weapons are gonna struggle against that you listed but claw parry is versatile

Especially if you get perfect parries for the counter attack

[wraith flare]

the revive is almost never used tho

[dreamy scaffold]

doesnt take away the fact it exists

[terse idol]

Nobody takes shout revive

Yeah, and it's still niche

[wraith flare]

its kinda trash

[grand perch]

i have, for a long time, when playing with my premade

[terse idol]

I just don't

Because naturally you can just keep your friends alive by spamming voc

[dreamy scaffold]

im not going off of how many use it, im saying its very useful in the event you cant revive teammates and need a clutch

[terse idol]

Uh

I mean

[wraith flare]

Well yeah if u got into a situation where its needed it could actually be good, but overall using it is nerfing u

[terse idol]

Even when you say that it's pretty not good

Still can just put yourself in a situation where you get close enough to the person and stagger the enemies around them

And the situations where you can't revive them you probably shouldn't because they could just be surrounded anyways

Or in fire

[grand perch]

the value comes from doing things that you otherwise couldnt. get somebody back up on a ledge. on the other side of a wall. revive several people at once. but its worse in most situations to be sure

[terse idol]

Or they were in a situation where a voc stagger could have saved them anyways 😌

[grand perch]

you still stagger

[terse idol]

Yes

But!
Sometimes you can really get someone into a pickle

Which isss why it's niche

If you're not careful you can naturally double down someone as you know

[grand perch]

fair assertion

[lunar sedge]

Hey there. I want to tweak a little bit my shout vet to change Focus Target keystone to Weapon Spec. Can you please recommend a good passives on right side above the keystone, and which Keystone Modifiers is worth to pick?

[white minnow]

these are the talents that i'd pick for melee

if you already took stamina regen delay on the marksman focus branch, i'd pass up stamina regen delay here and go through reciprocity instead of the ult modifier (may or may not depend on your choice of ranged/melee and how much they benefit from crits)

if you took shotgun/revolver, the ammo refund weapon spec node is very nice but I'm fine with giving up the upgrade nodes if I took other weapons

[tall torrent]

knife handles that situation debatably better

[hidden torrent]

Zealot loner penances are a terrible experience, all vets want to be attached to my hip

[dreamy scaffold]

from my experience and my playstyle, i can see how it would but have to disagree for me

[hidden torrent]

It makes me sad

[tall torrent]

depends on build but knife is usually very good at killing armor especially if u run frags for armored waves

[lunar sedge]

Thank you. For my original build I am using infamous plasma with power sword. I tried other melee options, but imo power sword and VoC goes together very well. So I would like to keep the sword, but I'm eager to change plasma for something else just for the interest. If you consider those things, what you can recommend for a ranged option?

[white minnow]

zarona revolver is the usual ranged for a weapon spec build
I like a v7 headhunter because a specific setup gives you gunner one-shots and trapper/flamer two-shots (trapper one-shot if you decide to dedicate both perks to +specialist/+maniac)
You could justify pretty much most ranged weapons and I'd pick what you like

i like being able to greed for gunner kills and roleplay as a marksman vet on a weapon spec build while having the absurd melee buff, so I run the V7 headhunter

[dreamy scaffold]

trying to get blessings for crafting rev is pain

just crafting is pain

never ending grind

[hollow ibex]

i'm waiting for the crafting rework

[somber axle]

it's the problem of a lot of players being newer to certain talents/builds they've never touched before and being scared to be alone so they become baby ducks in your shadow

penances are making people branch out from playing like one or two things and never doing anything else

so a lot of people are hitting the learning curve from the bottom and working their way up

and also a lot of people are prideful and don't want to drop difficulty to learn LMFAO

then they just hope they can stick with the team and contribute that way but end up really just hoping to be carried

[gray finch]

i think hadron loves me

[dreamy scaffold]

honestly i used to use voc, the initiative penance caused me to branch out and i like it way more than voc

[somber axle]

Infiltrate is wonderful and it's my fav Vet ability for sure

unless I misunderstood and the initiative penance is about Exe Stance in which case I also love that one too I just hate VoC

[dreamy scaffold]

no thats my bad

i meant infiltrate

[somber axle]

Vet Stealth is weirdly strong

Such a long duration + Low Profile makes it really funny for how much you can get away with while near the team

[dreamy scaffold]

its a really nice get out of jail card

[lunar sedge]

Zarona is also pretty stale for me after playing enough of crit zealot. Is there anything interesting with shotguns nowadays? I heard there is some not very obvius blessing combo for one of the shotguns

[tall torrent]

I finished all weapons' pages in document btw

recon included

[agile forge]

I'm still not sure what melee to take with zarona weapon spec

I tried my antax and it feels slugggish

Think I'll just stick to my cleave chainsword 4

[hollow ibex]

rashad and ps6 are very strong meta picks there

[agile forge]

It's OK if it's shit vs Crushers, I got the revolver and kraks for that

[tall torrent]

rashad, power sword 6, knife 6

[agile forge]

My power sword 6 is only PC3

And I kinda want to find alternatives to it anyway

Chainsword 4 did me pretty well last time I brought it

Being able to rev in stealth is fun

[tall torrent]

Become a knife mk6 enjoyer

[lavish solar]

Why no chain sword 13? Just curious

[midnight totem]

13g is good too

[junior needle]

13g has amazing clear for a lightspammer

[somber axle]

NICE

[junior needle]

Not very good against carapace though

[somber axle]

I'm really curious to see your take on recons tbh

[tall torrent]

I can send it

[somber axle]

Sure let me see

[midnight totem]

That's chainswords in general

[somber axle]

I'm a clown so I am biased but you seem like a good source of objective info without bias

[somber axle]

I wanna see an impartial take

😌

Very nice

[junior needle]

Very true

[grand perch]

mk2 has got to be the weirdest graph

[tall torrent]

No

[grand perch]

what could form more of a spike than that

[tall torrent]

it can get worse

[somber axle]

LMFAO

[grand perch]

lel

[somber axle]

Yeah I was about to say Shredder would be much worse

[hidden torrent]

Single fire shredder pistol

[junior needle]

It did benefit from a description of whether something was good or niche (or bad)

[tall torrent]

infantry lasguns

[grand perch]

i shudder to remember the days were it was meta for all classes that could equip it. oh the ammo wastage

[hidden torrent]

What ammo

[tall torrent]

I scratched that because the radar chart does its job better

[junior needle]

Ehhhhhh

[hidden torrent]

So uh, when we getting an automatic lasgun

[midnight totem]

No opening Salvo on the xii?

[junior needle]

We have automatic lasgun at home

[lavish solar]

As in its special attack is less effective than mk4?

[tall torrent]

Infantry Lasguns have pretty slow ADS recoil reset (which salvo depends on)

[grand perch]

i'd wager it doesnt hit any new breakpoints

[tall torrent]

And it’s still pretty reliant on a couple conditions

[somber axle]

That's fair but I think the graphs show that well

[midnight totem]

Fair enough. I liked it on the xii

[somber axle]

People can see the ratings on how they perform vs different targets and make a judgement call on it from there based on their playstyle

[midnight totem]

Over deadly accurate anyway

[tall torrent]

melee stuff

[hidden torrent]

Power sword is Max everything

[tall torrent]

No, actually

[hidden torrent]

It would be a lot funnier if you made it that way

[tall torrent]

would also be very untrue

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-shit-gif-10170254522401038702

[somber axle]

That's a fair take on Power Swords

[grand perch]

thats some house looking motherfuckers

[hidden torrent]

What is the redacted weapon hm

New darktide leak

[trim hemlock]

Mk6 cb now has Executor recommended

[tall torrent]

It’s a slot reserved for future weapon additions

So I don’t have to remake the thing

[junior needle]

It's better to clearly state it rather than rely on people paying actually paying sufficient attention to the funny graph and guess

[hidden torrent]

Another weapon Mk

[tall torrent]

I made everything with the intention of future proofing and making it as easy as possible to make changes

[junior needle]

It's about the same, but as someone said, chainswords in general just don't do carapace well

[lavish solar]

Alright, thanks man!

[hidden torrent]

Fake news, only use chainswords on carapace

[somber axle]

Maybe but it also falls into more of a subjective light then vs objective graphing of performance in different areas. If someone looks at another weapon with maxed out points along the graph and sees another weapon with a tiny circle Shredder style that's enough info to tell them the Shredder is weak and underperforming just by the size of the shape in the graph without a word

[tall torrent]

plasma & boltgun

boltgun took some serious effort trying to squeeze everything into 1 page

while reserving 2 slots for future additions

[somber axle]

Like look at Plasma

The graph showcases how strong it is well imo

[tall torrent]

revolvers

[junior needle]

You overestimate how discerning the average person is. I've talked to people who actually can't comprehend the concept of hypotheticals.

[tall torrent]

Also

[midnight totem]

I think I've played with some of those people

[somber axle]

I tend to have more faith that the average person is smart enough to understand info if they take the time to read it thoroughly. The problem is whether or not someone reads to begin with but this is a guide. Someone looking at a guide is already going out of their way to look into more info so you already have their attention just by nature of them looking into the guide in the first place

It's not big walls of text either

Pretty pictures help smaller attention spans

[tall torrent]

You can click on blessings’ names in the weapon pages
And they’ll hyperlink to the blessing descriptions in the later section
You can also click on the weapon categories’ names in the blessing descriptions section to travel back to the weapon page

Took a while to figure out the hyperlink stuff but it’s all done

Also the listed “important talents” all have hyperlinks to the talent description

Except the white coloured “boost” nodes

[somber axle]

NICE

Thank you for the work you do numbers cat

[junior needle]

I tend to have more faith that the average person is smart enough to understand info if they take the time to read it thoroughly.

"if"

[tall torrent]

Also fyi, there is a 3rd power sword variant
The UI icon for it is in the game already
It’s just not available yet

[hidden torrent]

Lmaooooo

[somber axle]

I trust easily but I'm also gullible as hell so I have to follow my personal rule of verifying info or I'll literally 100% believe anything someone says to me with confidence every time

[grand perch]

folding power sword

[hidden torrent]

Fatshark and their weapon variants dude, I just want new things not swing different

[grand perch]

you stab with the hilt

[hidden torrent]

Oops only stabs

[junior needle]

I would still strongly adding back in the general description of power level, even if it's only for idiotproofing

[somber axle]

NEW SWORD??

[tall torrent]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1233790660142829670/1234705107212304394/powersword_p1_result.png?ex=663e3a7d&is=663ce8fd&hm=4c5f0f2373a627a665fd4947c3e4719dd709f957d140664b0ebeb058dd97f7f3&

Mk3

[hidden torrent]

Well new is a bit dishonest

[tall torrent]

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Mk6

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That looks like every other powersword

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Mk 6 reverse

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Mk???

[grand perch]

thats not a psword, thats a spaceship

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Considering the handguard it looks like ot would be used for stabs

Tbh

Probably high single target damage for vet

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Main reason I scratched it is because not enough word space to include them

[somber axle]

I'd love a thrusting focused Power Sword tbh

Less swing more stab

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I would like to see heavy stabs and light sweeps

I like alternating patterns with attacks though

Gives me a reason not to only heavy attack

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I think anyone niche enough to click on a word.docx file link looking for a video game guide in a discord server is already filtered enough to be able to read a radar chart

[somber axle]

People who want info but don't want to properly read anything always have googling Darktide reddit threads to fall back on

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I've watched too much TikTok to read, I need this information with vine thuds or I can't absorb it

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It’s already been cut in word count substantially

Used to be 2 pages per weapon category

[somber axle]

I miss the little descriptions but I understand

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Now it’s 1 page per weapon category

[somber axle]

Less words appeal to gamer brains that want info fast and easy

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If it's that long TLDR it, this category should be use for this as a general statement etc

You're in the age of zoomers my friend

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does this rly look hard to understand

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For me? No I have a functioning brain, but leaded gasoline still has lasting effects

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[somber axle]

You must have faith Arthur

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-gif-22961531

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Who's Faith and why do I need her

[somber axle]

Emperor's girlfriend and if you disrespect faith the Zealots will be hunting you before the Inquisiton can figure out what happened

[agile forge]

It's like George Michael said

You gotta have faith, in the Emperor.

[junior needle]

Trust me, it's better not to assume that

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A girl? Never met one of those before!

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That’s ok I didn’t make it for the lowest common denominator anyways

[somber axle]

For anyone else asking about weapons in discord there are a plethora of people here ready to give the simple "good, bad, meta" single word responses tbh

[woeful ibex]

more datamine?

[junior needle]

The lowest common denominator are what need the guide the most

I thought the point of the guide is to give those kinds of answers so people don't have to ask

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Anything but meta is bad, is what you'll get decently often

[somber axle]

You can say you've met a clown though!

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Lmao, I'm glad someone understands satire the amount of people who don't when I'm clearly being satirical, honestly scares me

[somber axle]

Unless someone talks to me and I give them a whole breakdown on why Recons are funny

[junior needle]

More that shocktrooper is funny

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-peep-the-amazing-digital-circus-hello-digital-circus-gif-10588965112778955246

Me watching the Ogryn get grabbed at Mach 5 by a Mutie running through pox gas

[somber axle]

It answers the important questions like what a weapon does well, what it struggles with, what perks and blessings are good (most asked questions tbh) and what talents would help a weapon shine

If someone comes here to ask "Is X good?" they'll probably have people say yes or no and that's not a hard question to answer

For someone asking about a weapon in more detail we can point them to the guide

And share screenshots

[austere pine]

hab dreyko skull puzzle

go

(this is a test of course i know)

[junior needle]

It's still a bunch of questions that could be answered ahead of time and without requiring other people to opine

Seems strange to me to draw an arbitrary line there

You could apply the same logic to every other bit of information there

And be like "why add it if people can just answer this"

[trim hemlock]

Press middle, left, then right button on the console whenever you enter the bottom portion of the hab, have one person pull the activated lever while another goes to an opened cell

[austere pine]

also where

[trim hemlock]

Go to Hab Dreyko section of this guide

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3194249338

[austere pine]

missed it already

[pallid dew]

Should I get it?

[austere pine]

no

[terse idol]

No, unless you wanna keep toughness regen speed and don't have another good curio

[pallid dew]

This what I got

[terse idol]

Like I wouldn't keep sprint eff, and exp is useless so you have to rerolled those

[terse idol]

Oh I mean I'd take it to replace your HP curio

Just don't keep EXP

Or sprint efficiency

[pallid dew]

What should I swap it out for?

[terse idol]

The max HP curio

Oh

You should swap for

Gunner resistance

And maybe sniper or toughness+

[wanton dawn]

Sniper and gunner are the "high impact" one. The rest i find less impactful

[terse idol]

Yeah

[pallid dew]

This is what I got

I kept the toughness regen

[wanton dawn]

It is only real good on ogryn though

On vet what id recommend is to try reaching 200+ hp if you can

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Health or toughness

[wanton dawn]

Health

It makes a big difference on buster

[terse idol]

I thought you can just block burster with voc

[trim hemlock]

But Toughness makes a big difference on everything else

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I think he’s talkings abt multi burster

[trim hemlock]

Also VoC is a thing, but that much is true that you don’t always have it

[wanton dawn]

Voc doesnt care about thoughness either

[snow cypress]

Hi guys,which gun do you recomend for a infiltrate build with knife?

[wanton dawn]

Also saying it like that is the same as saying "just dodge sniper"

[trim hemlock]

Yeah, I don't mean to diminish the value of health, I just tend to prefer toughness myself

[trim hemlock]

Zarona revolver, for instance

[wanton dawn]

Also i play exe sometimes

[snow cypress]

oh nice,I was using shotgun but i was quite unprotected at distance attacks

[wanton dawn]

Shotgun are in an awkward position atm

[snow cypress]

yeah

It deals tons fo damage and i like it but i think it's not the best combination XD

[wanton dawn]

What surv nerf does to bad ammo eco gun

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/turk-took-our-jobs-jerbs-gif-10165889

THEY TOOK OUR SURVS

[snow cypress]

survs?

[wanton dawn]

The ammo aura

Pretty sure it lost more than 80% efficiency number wise

[snow cypress]

oof

[wanton dawn]

Still is the best on vet though

[austere pine]

only real build that benefits from health is if zealot focuses on holy revenant

[wanton dawn]

Wat

[austere pine]

you always get up to 25% max hp, no matter what it is

if you have 100 hp, you get back 25

if you have 1000 hp, you get back 250

sort of makes sense to run 3 hp curios, or at least two with one tghness due to zealot's insane tghness regen

don't knock it till you try it

[wanton dawn]

If you say like that then health improve healtstation and med drug

[austere pine]

not something you can build around i feel

[sinful swallow]

bolter, should i try better?

[austere pine]

maybe the couple guaranteed full med stations but stims, unless you're running pox gas, are nowhere

[austere pine]

my zealot in my is saying that it's nothing without cavalcade

[sinful swallow]

bless swap pining 3 and weak to flak

[wanton dawn]

Keep for now. Good perk and blessing is already greay

[sinful swallow]

i have a zeal calva pinning already

im trying to build an ads bolter but i dont really feel pinning at all

[wanton dawn]

Bolter vet is more surgical

Need deadshot

[sinful swallow]

yeah

[snow cypress]

Any good bleasings for knifes?

[sinful swallow]

im thinking gloryhunter and take aoe toughness for team perks

kind of a commander bolter theme

[terse idol]

Me going shattering, exe and focus target to kill bosses

[austere pine]

uncanny

[wanton dawn]

Problem is, bolter hates surv nerf

[terse idol]

😌

[austere pine]

precognition

[terse idol]

Plasma when it's still one of the best weapons

fat sharg: nerfs bolter

[austere pine]

sharg

[wanton dawn]

Plasma has good ammo eco

[terse idol]

Yeah

[austere pine]

your mother

[wanton dawn]

Simple as that

[terse idol]

This surv nerf was weird

[austere pine]

garbage guns

[terse idol]

Because really it hit

Revolv3r

[austere pine]

everyone should run laspistols

or brautos

[terse idol]

But bolter and shotguns which weren't that good

[austere pine]

or flamer

[terse idol]

Got hit hardest

[austere pine]

no inbetween

[terse idol]

Like tf

[wanton dawn]

Surv nerf just reinforced the meta

[sinful swallow]

if it just gave separate modifiers based on weap type

[terse idol]

😭

[sinful swallow]

what about that

[wanton dawn]

And upgraded lasgun i guess

[austere pine]

OH

idea on how to rework surv

[sinful swallow]

im doing this stuff to try to get me off the infinite ammo laspistol CRACK

[terse idol]

Lasgun like, just stayed ammo positive

[austere pine]

make it proc for low low percentages, or a chance to return, on ranged kills

on kills of *ranged enemies

[snow cypress]

And the backstab bleasing?

[austere pine]

not ranged kills

[terse idol]

Plasma still benefits

[austere pine]

sleep deprivation

[terse idol]

Oh

[wanton dawn]

Remove surv, improve ammo drop, improve reserve across all gun