#veteran-class
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+10% for quickplay random!
ok finally done with the voice of command penance
Around 1200 plasteel for a perfect game where you get it all. Not too shabby at all
I actually really love the chestpiece tbh
I love that one of the gloves is missing so you can see the Vermintide tattoo
the half skirt is nice too
My vet is riddled with Tat's cause he's an ex-hiveganger
yes its LC personality lmao
I like to head canon that my Loose Cannon Vet is a Catachan fighter as an explanation on why she's so eager to get into the thick of it, why she's all sass even in the face of Psykers that could make her brain pop one way and Ogryns that could make her brain pop the other way, and why she doesn't care about hygiene that much (I remember reading a story about someone on deployment having to go for MONTHS without a shower/bath and on the flight home he stank so much that people were moving to the opposite side of the plane and staff had to tell everyone to get to their ASSIGNED seating because everyone on one side of the plane could be dangerous)
I also really like all the purity seals.
Before launch I was hoping that Curios would eventually turn out to be visual on the character model like trinkets hanging from the belt or something.
I wish we had the options for more cosmetics like this.
Yeah those little details really make the outfit look so much better
My head canon with mine is he's just Ex-Steel Legion being eventually roped onto the ship cause I mean if you're an Ex-Hiveganger from Armageddon you're bound to eventually get into trouble again.
I adore the Chainaxe
Between Kraks and Chainaxe I can delete bosses now
I even managed to save an Ogryn who blundered into a Daemonhost between grenade stagger, voice of command shout stagger and the sheer damage kraks + Chainaxe puts out
just tear through Daemonhosts
👀
stunlock and shred
such a wonderful weapon
this is absolutely the weapon I'm bringing to Maelstrom runs
Say, what chainaxe do you usually use?
I'm very new to using the weapon but mine is a XII
I've been meaning to give it a good try after a long while with chanswords and shovels
I would say it is 100% worth
but also
it feels very slow to swing
to make it feel REALLY, REALLY GOOD you need to go into the bottom right of the tree
Weapon Specialist and Trench Fighter are massive QoL improvements to the swing speed
and it lets you clear hordes very well while still slamming damage into bosses and crushers
with a good Chainaxe you can rev and 1HKO Crushers
Nice to know
just go around booping them and moving to the next until they're all gone
rip and tear until it is done
I'll be trying out a few things with those then
KAR EN TUK
here's the page about Chainaxes from the guide in pins if you're curious about it
this thing is a monster killer
The chainaxes are definitely rough for hordes if you're not investing in attack speed
Yeah I just lucked out because I was grinding the Weapon Specialist 250 kills on crit weakspot hit during ranged weapon specialist buff penance
and because I was already using a very melee focused build it just clicked perfectly
no idea what a Chainaxe feels like without all the melee talents making it into such a monster
yes LMFAO
Chainaxe without those talents still hit hard
just holy shit it feels like I went to bed and woke up
by the time the next swing comes out
lmao
Specially with that bloodletter
This Chainaxe is weirdly the PERFECT thing to pair with my Recon build
Recon suffers on killing muties and boss damage? Chainaxe can SHRED them
are you using it for like Horde Clear or something
Rev, attack, dodge cancel, watch it bleed
cause yeah Chainaxe its meant for Tanky enemy dropping
The Chainaxe with the melee build has been an everything killer for me
my recon build doesn't invest in the melee attack speed talents but tbh I might forgo Onslaught and instead swap the talent points on that side of the tree into Trench Fighter for the 10% melee attack speed instead
just you'll be slower than everyone else
but does it really matter?
when your Singular L1 kills a Groaner
lmao
even if Recon loses an edge against Crushers, I suddenly have a very powerful weapon against Crushers
Heavy + Bloodletter
slam on head
watch crusher spit up blood fall over and die
ESPECIALLY if you have max Headtaker stacks lmao
which you could just wail on him with Lights for a second
and then do it
does Zealot get access to this weapon too?
Yes
In fact Chainaxe
especially the XII
is
REALLY good
on Zealot
I need a good Chainaxe XII on Clarisse too eventually
this is brutal
and the Zealot tree feels like it could make the Chainaxe shine SO MUCH BETTER
It does
it really fucking does
thing completely wipes and its really damn viable on Zealot in Maelstrom
Cosplay a Khornate Berserker lmao
Who.
Designed.
The relic spot.
For Vigil Station.
obese carcharodons did
That is…I am going to have to use LFG for it eventually
Just trying to jump there is just…
can just use knife right
The one where you have to jump on piss thin strips of metal support beams…
Over a never ending hive chasm
Is it the one where it ends with retreiving the surplus ammo
cause if it is
yeah that one actually fucking sucks
is this a gun or is it just a stick with a bayonet attached?
genuine question. i have no idea about helbores
the 1 and 2 look identical to me
Seeing you need everything over 70% except Charge iirc
change those perks
and you have a gun
Jup that's a gun
wondrous, for now i shall have access to krieg roleplay
Difference is on the charge time and max damage hit
Also just a really fun gun
Cant recall
there was 1 perk for the Mk2
that was REALLY important for a breakpoint
was it unarmored?
Cause the fastest usually doesn't run weight of fire iirc
and the others were the typical
Flak-Maniac
etc
I genuinely think it was Unarmored
Right
so they renamed it
Fucking stupid lol
I was like" I know this blessing because I ran it a lot but something feels wrong"
I noticed its name changed
and went
"am I actually insane?"
"or did this change"
no it changed
lmao
I was pondering the same hahaha
Onslaught to Weight of Fire
so we dont confuse it with the talent
which I mean
yeah? I dont mind I suppose
nothing was changed other than name
but seeing their charge rate is 41%
WOF massively counters that
Also waiting for the day we get a Steel Legion commissar outfit in which I will religiously use on my Medic build
but I guarantee we get DKOK first before that ever happens
Catachan outfits when?
Well, there's the red bandana
I weep
man i sucked this match
but i do have to say, i missed voc
and chain sword 4 is based
Chain sword gang
i'm still a power sword supremacist, don't get me wrong, but it is very based to use a chainsword
Honestly true, I know you can throw "some" together with mainly the Bandana's floating in the Aquila shop
Shovel purist
though im opening up to using the Rashad
catachan is when bandana
its true! (not really)
Still they should make full on outfits for them though
if not we skin Obesefish yes?
Was gonna do that anyway, so. Sure
and make catachan skins out of them
true
non-cadian cadian captains are awesome. idc for no masked krieger, faceless cowards
look at my awesome woman
shark space marines
carcharodons
My vet's a Cadian through and through
Survived and only wants vengeance
what vengeance? how do you kill daemons? it's all pointless
Yeah but the daemons can feel pain.
I think
They scream when they dissolve, at least.
Hails from Armageddon, may or may not have been an Ex-Hiveganger and went back to doing some of those things again which lead him here lmao
I put any other outfit on him he's fucking Riddled with Tattoos
lmao
Im still waiting for the actual SL set to come back
but this is the shocktroop pattern and I'll take it over nothing
I'd like to see a proper penal legion outfit
Yeah, but I missed that
Unfortunate, the set was pretty alright actually
I dont know of any other Penal legions that might be in atm
but that's one big one they added
Last chancers comes to mind but their uniforms are pretty bland
Might as well just take the starting outfit and throw on an equipment belt and some armor
That might be
yeah
Might be really easy to make for them
literally just grab some of the starting outfits
Actually I wouldn't mind that
spiff them up a bit and add Armor, and Equipment and they're done
Obviously keep the penal collar
finally back to darktide and see they finally slapped survivalist
fat shark does listen sometimes XD
Yeah back when that happened there's was a relative large Veteran outcry
I've since Adjusted to it and seriously dont mind the nerf
now we just need the CIAG to get nerfed
lmao
still feels like it was only a small nerf
Veterans can adapt
i have to have my gun out 100% of the time to run out of ammo
but at least it happens now
They should adapt
good stuff fatty shark
I tend to adapt to changes
Infact I expect nerfs on things
that I think are doing too good
so im mentally prepared lmao
Voice of command nerf is what I'm expecting
over all i feel like I still get as much ammo in higher tiers
just now i cant just sit on a map holding my trigger the entire time
I dont think its going to be the ability itself right
rather the upgrade
I love using it but damn
This is bound to get nerfed
if they nerf the VoC buff idk what it would be
probably take away the yellow bar
lmao
I think the yellow bar is fine
the yellow bar is what makes it strong
I just think it lasts way too fucking long
the combo of talents can make you spam it out stupidly
Either remove yellow bar or bringing up downed allies
so they should give it a CD increase and probably decrease the time Over-Toughness is active
sorry caps
This needs something
Strong
I'm pretty sure four vets can time it so that VoC is constantly active
cause compared to the other one
its just not enough
its very niche
but thats also what can make it good
I honestly think what they also should is nerf its stagger radius
You only need 2, 15 sec duration 30 sec cd
cause its fucking huge
I agree but the ability to instantly bring up a whole squad can really come in clutch
On this one I think the 50+ toughness is fine just nerf its stagger and drop it from 15 to 10 or hell even 7.5
Or
Increase the CD to either 60 seconds or 45
I think a duration nerf would be fine, 15 secs is defnitely too long.
Revive isnt honestly that good since spamming VoC would prevent them from going down in the first place. Also as vet your honestly not very likely to be the last man standing
Fair points, all.
60 seconds? Naaaah
but thats the biggest reason why no one runs revive shout
You can simply deny the down in the first place with Honor and Duty
or even buff yourself with it to face tank damage to revive them
I'm usually last or second to last to go down. Unless something crazy happens.
doin a little special shot goofery what should I change
I should mention that I was speaking about the revive ability on its own, supposing Duty and Honor was nerfed or not being used
In my opinion they shoud nerf base CD to 45
Remove cd penalty on revive
Maybe lower duration on overtoughness but it might not be needed
As it stands, yellow bar makes revive option obsolete
I honestly think the (normal toughness not over-toughness) regain should be a global thing on VOC
and Duty and Honor's should be that overbuff
Rather than just nerf toughness duration. CD duration nerf would be boring
just so then the revive has something backing it up
Any loadout tips to doing adept assassin penance quickly or is it painfully slow for everyone?
Which penance is that again?
Got like 20 in a full match while trying to trigger the effect
250 crit weakspot kills with weapon specialist buff active
Shoot into crowds with columnus mk V easy
kind of feels like the stars have to align to get some progress on that, critical headshots with the buff on and only specialists and elites
It does so much weakspot dmg it 1 taps trash in the head
Yeah, autogun into crowds gets you the crits easiest
zarona revolver
It's not the MF one, people
I was gonna suggest shotgun but I guess revolver works better
shotgun can work too
revovler is the most effecient
quick swap
high crit
its Weakpoint crit kills you need
Any mission with Wave of Specialist
i got about 22 kills out of 250 in a game where i actively tried
i went with plasma which i think is a mistake though
just remember that activating exec stance to swap won't trigger the weapon specialist effect unless you swap before hitting exe
I did not know that
how many games for that progress so far approximately?
Hey, me too
crab walk
What are good vet weapons right now?
i like columnus autogun and plasma rifle
Can anyone help me cheese the on overwatch penance?
like 5-6 games of crouching and farming kills like an idiot so far
maybe more, i started this morning
I don't even care about penances
i was planning on going smoke grenade and just sit stationary and blast enemies from the smoke on that one
yeah this shit is a snoozefest and totally not how i prefer to play vet
I thought the recon lasgun was perfect for it. I was wrong
im just rippin ass with the agri br
Bro same
Workable?
I'd swap terrifying barrage for dumdum
Well thats a given, CIAG would be worthless without dumdum
Ok good
What should I use the 2nd alteration on?
Oh hey this has already been answered
idk i just got back but ppl still struggle on damnation because they dont do 360s
clutched up 3 times just to fall then fail sob
Snagged this beauty from the armoury
im a sustained fire enjoyer
there is deathspitter too which i think a lot of ppl run with dumdum
Yeah because power plus power
^ i just like sustained fire because i end up burst firing majority of the time, and i can use it on bosses
but damage is always a plus
unlimited power?

it's the stat total off your modifiers
Oh.
think of a circle
lmao
not the rating
360s in horde games is a common tactic for keeping up awareness
Ok no memes. I'm new I might think you're being serious
You mean just. Looking around?
^
yeah pretty much
cover your 6
also just keeping track of sound cues
that too
ppl forget that dudes spawn behind them
the sound queue helps too but idk how it is if you are blasting the music
even thought the music in this game kinda bangs
high priority targets like poxbursters deafen the music for a bit
Is that not. Already common?
i didnt know this, i turned the music off a long time ago XD
youtube playlist when im sitting in the hub to hear the songs in game
I'm looking around anyway because of those idols
Heresy
Is it annoying when someone throws a smoke grenade at the group's feet to obscure them from ranged versus throwing the smoke grenade at the ranged guys? I have always done the former and it seemed to work pretty well, but I got scolded today and told to throw them further away. I've never felt like it really affects visibility enough to cause a problem and if there are multiple groups of ranged enemies I thought it took care of that scenario well too
Have I been an asshole this whole time
I get auditory overload, so i usually turn game music off for most games 😦
I treat smoke grenades sort of like the barrier psykers can call up. I throw it in the middle, so the team can maneuver without compromising their sight.
is it worth it to level the one on the right?
also should I switch gloryhunter with crucian roullete on the right?
Your priority is dumdum>flak/maniac perks>second blessing
If you want to use the weapon as intended you want crucian/hand cannon. Hand cannon only has value when you crit.
Why flak over carapace?
Generally speaking, carapace is only unavoidably on one enemy and flak is the most common armor type in the game
Ah
And many weapons perform poorly against carapace to begin with
Smoke is kinda annoying but you’re using it correctly
it works
although I almost always take grenade tinker with frag grenades for the increase in aoe
Is there a good veteran guide like there is the "Ogrynomicon" for ogryns?
latest pinned message in this channel
drop fully loaded and superiority complex then?
Vets can't read
57 pages
id have to drop two
Superiority complex is pretty good though.
10 percent more rending is not a big difference when your weapons is a power sword and revolver
should i run power sword tho?
when they both have immense amounts of rending built in, raw damage is better for them
power sword is great
is power sword better than chain sword for hordes? cuz ill probably need horde melee
It's incredibly annoying
yes and no
power sword mulches hordes, as long as you have the space to charge first
also id still need to drop another thing than just rending lol
Do what I do: CTRL+F and type the name of the thing you are searching for
It will automatically pull you to the relevant entries
Chainsword goes brrrrr
Even for cases where you need to limit the amount of ranged enemies attacking you, it's better to throw the smoke at the enemy or between you and the enemy
most chainswords only need a decent cleave blessing to deal with hordes
plus, your build lacks melee attack speed
People in a situation bad enough to want to constantly drop smoke at their feet are likely putting themselves in a bad position
but the carapace bonus makes the gun funny at killing crushers
🙂
I think this classifies as a godroll 
Agreed on smoke point, I tend to place it between the team and enemies. Among them if they are tightly packed
... Damn.
After being on both sides of smoke as both the Veteran using it and benefiting from it vs being a Zealot who couldn't see the ragers approaching through the smoke
You can solve the problem by pinging enemies
Always Be Pinging
If someone is upset that specials/elites are sneaking in unseen then you can ping them
anyway @ember folio , what I'd do is take out volley adept and the node after it
I got so lucky with the 25% flak
Solves the problem instantly and easily
go for increased stamina after confirmed kill
there, two nodes
put that into grenade tinkerer
I run revolver, and trust me, you will always find time to reload quickly even without a reload talent
or at least you should be able to
dead shot with no stamina regen?
note that isnt my build btw
finally
ngl i know everyone fawns over redirect fire but i legit think its over kill most of the time
lmao
goffy ass penance
put back rending?
uhhh
rending
check your breakpoints
demoteam unless i need redndndiding
if you can't, put it in the 10 percent damage melee node
demo team is always funny
you'll be fighting enough elites and specialists in auric anyway
keep tossing them grenades
there is nothing in this game that cannot be solved with liberal application of enough grenade
Shred wack wack
i imagine this fella is sheiBe but what yall think? (i figure unyielding > maniac first)
can you one hit a reaper?
Target Down + Iron Will + Exhilerating Takedown + Confirmed Kill
the condom build
i dont even have to relearn this game if i don't die XD
hell if i know, im just setting this build up
Breakpoints on flak/maniac enemies (even if they're "just" bodyshot breakpoints) are generally more desirable on revolver than unyielding enemies
so maniac it is
Gunner are also important targets
And elite helps with both of them and various other enemies
In my experience, a group of gunners are more dangerous than most anything else
Elitussy
How dare you?
no, no i cannot
then take off unyielding lol
i already maniac'd it lol
Huh. Not sure what else I expected.
are there conditions i need to meet before i shoot em
my favorite revolver is unarmored/elite
I can headshot scab and dredge gunners with or without crit from very far distances if need be
crit headshot any rager
Having the crosshair on them
Aim. Click.
wow haha
OH. FIE IS THAT PART OF THE BREAKPOINT
Always Be Pinging
which part?
up to +20% more damage, pretty important
at least you 2 shot them?
Oof. Not quite
thats with superiority complex + bring it down?
yep
dang
and focus and rending strikes
Revolver (Zarona Mk2a)
Elite + maniac
Hand cannon + surgical
Major breakpoint: 1 crit bodyshot every elite & specialist except mutants, scab mauler & ogryn enemies
am i on the right mk?
then its gotta be the crit bonus or something
Maniac is only for Dreg rager 1 crit bodyshot
hmm
so chuck an elite perk on instead?
was that with long shot too?
U need 15% elite from left tree
i had longshot but not sure if i was far enough
He has that
crit bonus then?
Oh. Yeah
or maybe curios
That's a painful crit bonus
welcome to the looting shooting grind
It's alright
cant you just swap maniac to elite damage
where you either hit the lottery ticket or hit the bucket
i do need to do that apparently yeah, need some plasteel first
You're gonna be like me, blow 2 million dockets on making the perfect revolver
i still dont have a power sword
(Which I still don't have)
ive burned so much plasteel still no sundering strike
this dinky old thing is my goto melee
im crying still
Which breakpoint are u aiming for
best o the bunch? (assuming optimal modifications)
i dont know a damn thing about breakpoints, im just going off this channel
DC4
the helbores make me so sad
Swap maniac to elite
Elite is more useful than maniac for Zarona
Maniac is only for 1 specific breakpoint after u already have elite perk
they burned their plasteel
friend i do not dark that many tides to know what that is
yall kinda made him swap a perk without giving him the prio he should have gotten
I told him to get elite
.
Devil’s Claw mk4
It's okay
you'd be the exception then
Go earn some plasteel
ah
It's serviceable enough
in all cases onces you've gone past 50%
yeah. ill slap on elite on what i have first and then start cranking 90s rolling revolvers, just need to get resources
5% crit is so heavily diminished
oh yall i might need to aim longer to get surgical? that might account for inconsistency
Long as you get the crit
you'd technically get a crit no matter what if you actually stack surgical
friends, i can get one shots if i aim long enough it seems
You can hold surgical until like, 6 or 7 stacks for a guaranteed crit. Well 7 for you
it makes the 5% feel even worse
thats good then
hold it, farm plasteel then replace it 🙂
if you feel the need later on
or want*
time to farm plasteel and figure out i hate the thing :D
(ammo is pain)
Plasteel is at least easier to farm after the update
oh?
the +50 finds actually add up
If u have all 4 heretic idols destroyed, and do martyr’s skull (at least 1 member on team not yet have it, and that person collects it), that’s +50x4 +100 in damnation for 300 plasteel extra
Yeah if you do puzzles for martyr's skulls you can get 100 plasteel per skull on a mission
Destroying idols gets you 50 plasteel per idol
Only if someone who didn’t have it before went and collected it
I have had 1000+ plasteel missions in Damnation lately
That makes sense
Only to immediately throw it all into the fire for a very slight improvement
Good to check with the squad to see if anyone hasn't done the puzzle yet when you're coming near one
i know not of these martyr skulls
Some of them require jumping puzzles and some of them require using levers or batteries or secret doors or finding objects to interact with
Ib4 crafting rework takes 20k diamantine per roll
Like the shower room puzzle
CHILL
You have to turn on all the showers with the red Inquisition letter I before they turn off on a timer
io stopped pickng up diamantine lmao
If you turn on all the showers it unlocks a door near the back by the medicae to a locker room with a skull
Oh so that means... you have something to work towards?! 
I’ve found it easier to accumulate plasteel since this patch
Much easier to get plasteel yeah
Before it was roughly 2 game = craft 1 weapon to gold
Now it’s 1.4 game = craft 1 weapon to gold
Around that
Plus a lot of people are focused on penances rather than crafting so after a few missions grinding away at penances I glance at my resources and I'm suddenly up 4000 plasteel
Also maybe cuz I’ve gotten good gear for all my classes that I don’t craft as much anymore
you craft till gold?!
I basically only keep 540+ weapons now
The extra plasteel has been nice for getting me to try weapons I wouldn't have looked at otherwise
i legit just craft till green 2, and only make gold when the base is 370+
wtf i read that as chinese man
or has a dump stat i really couldnt care about
xiaolongbao cat
I only rly bother with >375 now unless it’s a weapon I don’t have most good blessings for
dumpling kitty?
.>
Only 3 blessings left for veteran that I don’t yet have
i dont wanna take off the helmet build i got going atm
i think i did the math an I might not need BM
but too broke to prove it now
156 plasteel 😦
If u have carapace/elite u should still be able to
i do
Back to the plasteel mines
Do penance grind, you’ll wonder how u randomly accumulated 15k out of nowhere
yo actually
i did 4 runs so far
and got like 50 penances
though i think some of them were retroactive
I have a penance question
No
But a lot of them u can get very early on
really when i logged on i had gotten a bunch completed too tho
They reduced requirement for a lot of penances
all i had to do was collect them
Do they reset? Like a sort of season thing that other games do?
Missed opportunity
No
They will expand on it later on
But they’re not going to vault stuff we have rn
Penances are just achievements
What’s ur penance point progress rn
I'm about to finish my last vet penance today
Are u aiming for Moebian 6th drip
Just need 10 more kraken grenade kills
Meaning that other rewards will become available and current ones might be lost forever?
cant farm plasteel cuz every game is just a bunch of imcompetence :(
1505
What difficulty are u mainly playing
normal damnation
Incompetent at spelling. Competent at war.
A true Vet
Nice
Finished psyker today
there is no later
Witchcraft
legit cant bother to aim for pennances
Psyker was just not fun lol 2500 special & elite kills
when i am still missing BLESSINGS
precisely my m8
Gotta get 100 percent collection
I feel like they put an extra 0 in there
It’s been a lot easier to accumulate resources since patch 18, idk
They just want psyker mains to suffer. You know, make it more immersive.
well ive been playing for 2 hrs now
I'm trying to do assail and kill with empowered psionics together
i guess ill get them when i get them
doesnt help that im forced to cluth every game ive played on my day back
ppl dont look behind them and im too damn rusty
It's not going well for empowered assail
It’s been bad lol
Do brain burst
Brain burst for EP penance was way faster
Makes you stronger.
im assuming im playing with other returning players
I figured. I originally played BB
but i refuse to not do damnation
6 wound zealot without martyrdom 
Never played assail until the Penances
Rip
Some penances also require u to play very wacky stuff
But Moebian 6th Armor is worth it
A few weird ones
well imma keep my helmet on
Decided it was not for me
I am always pinging
It seems like there are people on both sides of this at least, so I don't feel quite so bad
Veteran:
- 2500 kills with marksman’s focus at 10 stacks (most efficient way is to crab walk melee or magdump horde)
- 500 kills with krak grenade on armored targets (most efficient way is to stick scab shooters, stalkers & bruisers in hordes
Zealot:
- 250 backstab kills on ranged enemies, while not being in coherency with Loner aura
Psyker:
- 2500 elite & specialist kills with the +elite dmg aura equipped
kotowaru
The problem isn't really the smoke grenades, just that people used to playing games with 0 pings hate the smoke cloud
There’re some easier ones for pretty good cosmetics
the ogryn stuff looks so good
Veteran’s 2 upper body cosmetics look rly good and are fairly easy to do
Crab walk melee
the best cosmetic is a t4 blessing i dont have 😦
Sit next to a spawn door
I think veteran & ogryn have the best Moebian 6th cosmetics
zealot's looks kinda goofy
I wish it was black
zealots are goofy by nature
exactly
I wish it had back armor
why else did fatshark give them bdsm gear
Why is it only front armor
NO RETREAT
This is zealot slander.... and it is absolutely warranted
Only attack
Alright. Dinner done. Back to game
Zealot is a good class for roleplaying a Krieger
Played with a 5 wound zealot in damnation today who kept going down from horde 
So they can larp as repentia ofc)
Ah. A clown
finally, a worthy rival for my 5 wound suicide bomber psyker
W/L?
My original vet build had six wounds
What're you using to make the UI look like that?)
Idk if Vet needs wounds ngl
They don't. I just went down a lot
its a descriptor mod but i'd have to check to remember the name
Please do check)
My solution was, instead of getting better, simply get more free injuries.
You play on T4?)
T4 minimum
Truly one of the heresy players of all time)
The build did not do well in damnation so I had to adjust to toughness
Which turned out to be the right choice, so I must be doing something right.
I think its either the 'What the Localization'' Mod or the ''Quick Look Card'' Mod
probably the localizer
because it changes the descriptions on the skill tree too
pretty useful
It's the latter, thanks)
Yes)
just posted some potential heresy on reddit, aw yeah
Heresy posting. Shameful.
1155 plasteel, hell yea
YO! What blessings do you want on a Kantrael 12 Lasgun?
headhunter ghost
Appreciate it
It has taken me 142 power swords to finally get power cycler IV
Headhunter and then either deadly accurate or ghost.
question about the smoke grenade penance does it only count enemies in the intial explosion of smoke or any enemy that runs through it while the smoke is up
Ghost is primarily for deadshot/dnd shenanigans
Dost falter blessing not work well for the lasgun?
It’s not good
Because u want consistent headshots
Falter = enemies stagger more = less consistent headshots = kill slower
It wouldn't work well on any gun because it's shit 
I always get the crap stuff it seems
Well if i said i have mercy killer and uncanny strike on my combat blade, is that a bad combo? Or should i do something else. I'm curious
Or what would folks run that they enjoy on it the most
It’s good, u just have to grab serrated blade in the talent tree
I got that bruv
mercy killer is good if you have serrated knife talent yee
For reference I tested Falter IV on a Helbore Mk III against Crushers and found that even 90% stagger resistance on weakspot hit had no noticeable impact on them in the Psykanium. It does not cause them to stagger back or fall over. At best you may be able to give them the light stagger that stops them briefly during an attack animation but with the Mk III Helbore it can already 1HKO Crushers with the right set up and can still kill them in 2-3 shots even without that build. Falter is just not worth having ever LOL
bleed stacks up to 16
Ah
non-linear dmg scaling based on number of stacks applied
looks like fatshark faltered in making a good blessing
very low dmg at low stacks
bleed stacks to 16 unless otherwise stated
much higher dmg at high stacks
The single use case I can think of is like maybe the Kantrael IV with Falter IV might be able to put out enough shots fast enough into a target without doing enough damage to kill to maybe hit whatever the stagger threshold is for it on some targets but even that is absolutely not worth sacrificing a blessing for since you would benefit more from Deadly Accurate/Headhunter or Deadly Accurate/Ghost
bleed stack to 16
burn stack to 31
soulblaze stack to 31
i'm guessing they thought stagger would be as useful in DT as it is in VT2
but that obv fell through
Dang, no wonder infernus headhunter recons cause so much burn dps
infernus has a cap
Right but still
Recon Infernus cap is 12 stacks
That's still a significant increase to DPS on healthier targets though
also idk where burn/soulblaze 31 comes from can i get a link or somethin
a lot of blessings and talents have a cap
At max stacks I think it is ticking away for 241 damage per tick for the first few ticks before the damage begins to lower for the last ticks
Purgatory flamer from zealot and something staff from psycher
On a Recon that's a pretty big increase to damage
yea on recon it's your best damage blessing
on all other lasguns, it's just better to get a blessing that kills faster
inferus helbore 
Plus it means that even glancing crit shots at a target that flees around a corner will set them on fire and potentially kill them as they run away. I've killed lots of fleeing trappers and hounds by getting that split second burst into them before they round a corner and see them in the kill feed a couple seconds later
i see that way too often
Yeah Infernus is really only good on the Laspistol Mk II or the Recons. You have much better blessings available for Helbores and Kantrael Infantry Lasguns
on las pistol even
there is better options
Dum Dum increases Infernus damage iirc but Headhunter means more consistent crits on targets at long range to build to max stacks faster while preserving more ammo through Shock Trooper too
recon just doesn't have them
Yeah Dum Dum/Ghost is generally the go to for people but I don't like Ghost
So I run Dum Dum/Infernus on my Mk II Laspistol if I'm not running my Medic build with Dum Dum/Reassuringly Accurate
Mk II is the pistol that makes it work
Mk X is slower firing and higher damage per shot for a diet Kantrael XII that you can fire one handed
Most DOT related blessings in this game are quite mid
I would suggest Dum Dum/Ghost on that one over Infernus
Bloodletter is muuuuuch more fun than Infernus
But if you go for a dot focused build
You can do the bleed and burn strat I like to do
Alternate keeping bleed and infernus stacks ticking
the only dot related things that kinda work is blazing trauma
lawbringer can go flechette but it's not the best option
It's fun if you're running a Ranged Weapon with Infernus and a Melee Weapon with Bloodletter
there is just better options
flechette ripper gun + burn 
I feel like an Affliction Warlock from WoW maintaining dots on bosses but in melee LOL
i ahvent even gotten flechette on rippers yet
fatshark buffed crafting too much now i keep getting t3s at minimum
You need to use your last slot or the mod for more chars and have some lower levels to buy so you get low tier
i do, but that's so i can play with my low level friends xd, lazy moment
Flesh tearer + uncanny on knife
It’s very generalist
and i have precog, riposte AND executor saved
and i'd use them all before i use flesh tearer uncanny knife again
hell on vet i'm using mercy+ uncanny with serrated blade

Flesh tearer makes horde clear notably better tho
it really doesn't
basically every blessing i listed will do it better than flesh tearer
Not a fan of executor
executor is weird
and precog is high skill, but riposte exists
Finally home. Time to kill heretics
What exactly is wrong with flesh tearer
I’m getting very conflicting accounts on it
it is just slow damage
it is basically overkill because most enemies will die before it even ticks for a few second, from direct damage
On zealot or veteran
and psyker
all of them can get weakspot/crit bonuses
zealot doesn't evne need a bleed blessing for the bleed talent because of how ridic scourge+blazing piety uptime is by default
Does mercy killer’s bonus apply well in horde
Like, does knife have absurd falloff in cleave dmg distribution regarding weak spots
every second hit which isn't rare for the cleaved targets you hit with serrated blade
Yes but does it actually boost dmg a lot
Because of cleave falloff
hard to say, i'm not a hard vet main or a knife main anymore, but it according to people who i trust and who do the science, it is comparable to the other big 3 blessings
Tbh I never really notice it whenever Im running a Serrated blade build
but I do notice typical trash enemies get dropped extremely quickly
with right build you can deal like 5k-8k to the monstrum per hit
By mercy killer? Or flesh tearer
Mercy
Mainly cause of the fact Talent of Serrated I believe allows for it to just
I’m not very good at knife yet
happen without needing to aim at the head
BUT
you can use it for Weakpoint hits if you aren't running it
Ik mercy has better single target dmg
that or lacerate🤢 or Flesh tearer
Just because it’s far more consistent than crit fishing
Oh yeah its
a lot more nice
though you could get the Reciprocacy?
Talent?
i think its called
Can’t afford
not the Blessing
i like lacerate is super consistent
I only got 3 points to spare
It’s either 10% melee + serrated + mercy or reciprocity + desperado + flesh
thats a Strictly Knife vet build
it's not
you'd get more consistency just aiming for headshots with uncanny strike
if you want bleed go flesh tearer, knife has an insane crit chance baseline
i combine it with it
it litearlly doesn't work, you have to aim down then up, and at that point you could have always been aiming up and using knife's amazing weakspot damage
I'd say if you say "fuck it we ball" Mercy + Flesh and Recip Talent just so you're not fishing low crit chances 24/7
it work with you punch special
Lack of uncanny = shit dmg
Unfortunately
"low crit chance"
it's a knife
Not worth it
not a shit ton but it does help
uncanny is the best damage blessing in the game
Honestly have 0 clue if Uncanny + mercy would even be worth it either
If you're running Serrated maybe?
uncanny mercy is worth with serrated blade
I spent 8k plasteel and got a pretty good grenadier gauntlet for ogryn penance grind
yes,
I do not count on randoms to do special sniping
Which penance exactly?
They rarely do
if you aren't going serrated, you want riposte+uncanny on vet most likely
I have 14 penances left on ogryn lmao, still need to do rush 60 in 1 go
I’ll prob swap shattering to gloryhunter 4 once I get it
Shattering didn’t seem too useful
I gotta do a shit ton of em but im going to do Ogryn now seeing Vet is done
Ive been stuck at 59/60 for ages now, but I also dont play ogryn much atm
and then Psyker afterwards
U playing rn?
Currently on yes
Add me
It’s fine
I’m doing reg damn
I don’t wanna auric with my wack penance builds
Would rather not troll
you're a much better person than i am 
Troll only the deserving. And on heresy.
And sometimes on Damnation but only when it's really funny
But that's it!
What region are u in
Ok we in same time zone nice
East coast beast coast
Just did
Vc?
All good
Which penances u doing rn
And do u need martyr skulls
I basically have everything in my build atm needed
Suppression, big boom, PBB, and my Keystone
FNP?
good luck with lucky bullet one
@somber axle DRUUUUUUUUUUGS DRUUUUUUUUUUUGS DRUUUUUUUUUUUGS
1400-1440 rpm depending on the math works
it's a recon VId with the weapon customization mod
is modding... Well, I guess it is possible
no i just made it up
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/277
https://dmf-docs.darkti.de/#/installing-mods
Weapon customization, flashlights, sights, scopes, equipment on back.Adds different kinds of qol and immersion things.And a bunch more stuff.
The Darktide Mod Framework is an open-source, community-run framework of modules that provides enhanced modding capabilities and support.
Yeah yeah, give me a break I bought the game like a week ago
imagine not knowing literally everything when first starting
fr
i bet people had to teach you things as a kid
Shameful, I know
Well, they tried.
I- How dare you?
Also all these mods are allowed you won't get banned etc etc just don't cheat or affect other players games
Sounds risky but I'm gonna trust you
Fatshark has a statement about it I'm sure someone could link it
why should i be honest when i can just
Hrm Tox bomber in the veteran chat
I feel like a tox bomber would be more... Zealot?
ogryn
Do you just have that clip on stand-by?
no, someone just happened to upload it in another server just now
... I don't believe you.
Yeah see- I don't think I can.
i love other game references in a game
