#veteran-class

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faint beacon
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yummy plasteel!

trim steppe
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+10% for quickplay random!

somber axle
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ok finally done with the voice of command penance

trim steppe
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Around 1200 plasteel for a perfect game where you get it all. Not too shabby at all

somber axle
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I actually really love the chestpiece tbh

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I love that one of the gloves is missing so you can see the Vermintide tattoo

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the half skirt is nice too

faint beacon
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My vet is riddled with Tat's cause he's an ex-hiveganger

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yes its LC personality lmao

somber axle
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I like to head canon that my Loose Cannon Vet is a Catachan fighter as an explanation on why she's so eager to get into the thick of it, why she's all sass even in the face of Psykers that could make her brain pop one way and Ogryns that could make her brain pop the other way, and why she doesn't care about hygiene that much (I remember reading a story about someone on deployment having to go for MONTHS without a shower/bath and on the flight home he stank so much that people were moving to the opposite side of the plane and staff had to tell everyone to get to their ASSIGNED seating because everyone on one side of the plane could be dangerous)

cedar horizon
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I also really like all the purity seals.

Before launch I was hoping that Curios would eventually turn out to be visual on the character model like trinkets hanging from the belt or something.
I wish we had the options for more cosmetics like this.

somber axle
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Yeah those little details really make the outfit look so much better

faint beacon
somber axle
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I adore the Chainaxe

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Between Kraks and Chainaxe I can delete bosses now

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I even managed to save an Ogryn who blundered into a Daemonhost between grenade stagger, voice of command shout stagger and the sheer damage kraks + Chainaxe puts out

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just tear through Daemonhosts

umbral scaffold
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👀

somber axle
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stunlock and shred

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such a wonderful weapon

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this is absolutely the weapon I'm bringing to Maelstrom runs

woeful galleon
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Say, what chainaxe do you usually use?

somber axle
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I'm very new to using the weapon but mine is a XII

woeful galleon
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I've been meaning to give it a good try after a long while with chanswords and shovels

somber axle
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I would say it is 100% worth

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but also

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it feels very slow to swing

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to make it feel REALLY, REALLY GOOD you need to go into the bottom right of the tree

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Weapon Specialist and Trench Fighter are massive QoL improvements to the swing speed

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and it lets you clear hordes very well while still slamming damage into bosses and crushers

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with a good Chainaxe you can rev and 1HKO Crushers

woeful galleon
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Nice to know

somber axle
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just go around booping them and moving to the next until they're all gone

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rip and tear until it is done

woeful galleon
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I'll be trying out a few things with those then

last parcel
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KAR EN TUK

somber axle
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here's the page about Chainaxes from the guide in pins if you're curious about it

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this thing is a monster killer

idle swallow
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The chainaxes are definitely rough for hordes if you're not investing in attack speed

somber axle
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Yeah I just lucked out because I was grinding the Weapon Specialist 250 kills on crit weakspot hit during ranged weapon specialist buff penance

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and because I was already using a very melee focused build it just clicked perfectly

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no idea what a Chainaxe feels like without all the melee talents making it into such a monster

somber axle
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yes LMFAO

faint beacon
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Chainaxe without those talents still hit hard

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just holy shit it feels like I went to bed and woke up

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by the time the next swing comes out

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lmao

tame lodge
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Specially with that bloodletter

somber axle
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This Chainaxe is weirdly the PERFECT thing to pair with my Recon build

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Recon suffers on killing muties and boss damage? Chainaxe can SHRED them

faint beacon
tame lodge
faint beacon
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cause yeah Chainaxe its meant for Tanky enemy dropping

somber axle
faint beacon
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Mainly your recon

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Cause I can see it getting away with Horde Clear if its XII

somber axle
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my recon build doesn't invest in the melee attack speed talents but tbh I might forgo Onslaught and instead swap the talent points on that side of the tree into Trench Fighter for the 10% melee attack speed instead

faint beacon
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just you'll be slower than everyone else

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but does it really matter?

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when your Singular L1 kills a Groaner

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lmao

somber axle
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even if Recon loses an edge against Crushers, I suddenly have a very powerful weapon against Crushers

faint beacon
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slam on head

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watch crusher spit up blood fall over and die

somber axle
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yeah they just melt

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LOL

faint beacon
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ESPECIALLY if you have max Headtaker stacks lmao

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which you could just wail on him with Lights for a second

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and then do it

somber axle
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does Zealot get access to this weapon too?

faint beacon
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In fact Chainaxe

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especially the XII

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is

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REALLY good

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on Zealot

somber axle
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I need a good Chainaxe XII on Clarisse too eventually

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this is brutal

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and the Zealot tree feels like it could make the Chainaxe shine SO MUCH BETTER

faint beacon
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It does

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it really fucking does

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thing completely wipes and its really damn viable on Zealot in Maelstrom

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Cosplay a Khornate Berserker lmao

balmy flume
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Who.
Designed.
The relic spot.
For Vigil Station.

midnight totem
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obese carcharodons did

balmy flume
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That is…I am going to have to use LFG for it eventually

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Just trying to jump there is just…

somber axle
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Which one is that one again?

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Is that the one with the chandeliers?

frank monolith
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can just use knife right

balmy flume
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Over a never ending hive chasm

faint beacon
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cause if it is

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yeah that one actually fucking sucks

austere pine
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is this a gun or is it just a stick with a bayonet attached?

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genuine question. i have no idea about helbores

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the 1 and 2 look identical to me

faint beacon
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change those perks

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and you have a gun

muted knot
austere pine
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wondrous, for now i shall have access to krieg roleplay

muted knot
muted knot
faint beacon
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Cant recall

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there was 1 perk for the Mk2

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that was REALLY important for a breakpoint

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was it unarmored?

muted knot
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Uhhhhhhh

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I don't remember

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Wait MK2 is the fastest right ?

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I can never remember

faint beacon
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Yeah MK2 is the Fastest

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I know it had 1 extremely important perk for a breakpoint

muted knot
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Cause the fastest usually doesn't run weight of fire iirc

faint beacon
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and the others were the typical

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Flak-Maniac

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etc

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I genuinely think it was Unarmored

muted knot
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Also I swear that blessing had a different name

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Or am I tripping ?

faint beacon
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It was

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Onslaught

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but we have a Talent named that

muted knot
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Right

faint beacon
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so they renamed it

muted knot
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Fucking stupid lol

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I was like" I know this blessing because I ran it a lot but something feels wrong"

faint beacon
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I noticed its name changed

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and went

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"am I actually insane?"

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"or did this change"

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no it changed

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lmao

muted knot
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I was pondering the same hahaha

faint beacon
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Onslaught to Weight of Fire

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so we dont confuse it with the talent

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which I mean

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yeah? I dont mind I suppose

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nothing was changed other than name

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but seeing their charge rate is 41%

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WOF massively counters that

muted knot
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That's fair

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I wish the MK3 were less clunky

faint beacon
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Also waiting for the day we get a Steel Legion commissar outfit in which I will religiously use on my Medic build

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but I guarantee we get DKOK first before that ever happens

oblique totem
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Catachan outfits when?

tame lodge
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Well, there's the red bandana

oblique totem
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I weep

austere pine
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man i sucked this match

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but i do have to say, i missed voc

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and chain sword 4 is based

oblique totem
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Chain sword gang

austere pine
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i'm still a power sword supremacist, don't get me wrong, but it is very based to use a chainsword

faint beacon
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Shovel purist

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though im opening up to using the Rashad

austere pine
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catachan is when bandana

faint beacon
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its true! (not really)

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Still they should make full on outfits for them though

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if not we skin Obesefish yes?

oblique totem
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Was gonna do that anyway, so. Sure

austere pine
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and make catachan skins out of them

faint beacon
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true

oblique totem
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I feel like there's already a shark based guardsman regiment

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Am I crazy?

austere pine
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non-cadian cadian captains are awesome. idc for no masked krieger, faceless cowards

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look at my awesome woman

austere pine
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carcharodons

oblique totem
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My vet's a Cadian through and through

austere pine
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that's boring, too

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mine survived the fall and just doesn't care anymore (LC)

oblique totem
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Survived and only wants vengeance

austere pine
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what vengeance? how do you kill daemons? it's all pointless

oblique totem
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Yeah but the daemons can feel pain.

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I think

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They scream when they dissolve, at least.

faint beacon
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Hails from Armageddon, may or may not have been an Ex-Hiveganger and went back to doing some of those things again which lead him here lmao

oblique totem
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The hiveganger life chose him

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I like that camo pattern though

faint beacon
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I put any other outfit on him he's fucking Riddled with Tattoos

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lmao

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Im still waiting for the actual SL set to come back

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but this is the shocktroop pattern and I'll take it over nothing

oblique totem
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I'd like to see a proper penal legion outfit

faint beacon
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we had Savlar Chem-Dogs sometime ago

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around January-Feb

oblique totem
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Yeah, but I missed that

faint beacon
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Unfortunate, the set was pretty alright actually

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I dont know of any other Penal legions that might be in atm

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but that's one big one they added

oblique totem
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Last chancers comes to mind but their uniforms are pretty bland

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Might as well just take the starting outfit and throw on an equipment belt and some armor

faint beacon
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That might be

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yeah

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Might be really easy to make for them

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literally just grab some of the starting outfits

oblique totem
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Actually I wouldn't mind that

faint beacon
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spiff them up a bit and add Armor, and Equipment and they're done

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Obviously keep the penal collar

torn root
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finally back to darktide and see they finally slapped survivalist

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fat shark does listen sometimes XD

faint beacon
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Yeah back when that happened there's was a relative large Veteran outcry

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I've since Adjusted to it and seriously dont mind the nerf

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now we just need the CIAG to get nerfed

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lmao

torn root
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still feels like it was only a small nerf

oblique totem
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Veterans can adapt

torn root
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i have to have my gun out 100% of the time to run out of ammo

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but at least it happens now

tame lodge
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They should adapt

torn root
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good stuff fatty shark

faint beacon
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I tend to adapt to changes

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Infact I expect nerfs on things

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that I think are doing too good

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so im mentally prepared lmao

oblique totem
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Voice of command nerf is what I'm expecting

torn root
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over all i feel like I still get as much ammo in higher tiers

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just now i cant just sit on a map holding my trigger the entire time

faint beacon
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rather the upgrade

oblique totem
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I love using it but damn

faint beacon
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This is bound to get nerfed

torn root
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if they nerf the VoC buff idk what it would be

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probably take away the yellow bar

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lmao

faint beacon
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I think the yellow bar is fine

torn root
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the yellow bar is what makes it strong

faint beacon
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I just think it lasts way too fucking long

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the combo of talents can make you spam it out stupidly

oblique totem
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Either remove yellow bar or bringing up downed allies

torn root
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100% remov the yellow bar

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I HOPE PPL DONT HATE ME FOR THAT BUT THE BAR IS TOO STRONG

faint beacon
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so they should give it a CD increase and probably decrease the time Over-Toughness is active

torn root
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sorry caps

faint beacon
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This needs something

leaden hollow
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Strong

oblique totem
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I'm pretty sure four vets can time it so that VoC is constantly active

faint beacon
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cause compared to the other one

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its just not enough

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its very niche

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but thats also what can make it good

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I honestly think what they also should is nerf its stagger radius

odd sparrow
faint beacon
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cause its fucking huge

oblique totem
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I agree but the ability to instantly bring up a whole squad can really come in clutch

faint beacon
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Or

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Increase the CD to either 60 seconds or 45

oblique totem
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I'd be fine with increasing the cool down

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That way you can't spam it constantly

odd sparrow
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I think a duration nerf would be fine, 15 secs is defnitely too long.

Revive isnt honestly that good since spamming VoC would prevent them from going down in the first place. Also as vet your honestly not very likely to be the last man standing

oblique totem
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Fair points, all.

faint beacon
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If you're good at movement

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it tends to happen

hollow ibex
faint beacon
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but thats the biggest reason why no one runs revive shout

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You can simply deny the down in the first place with Honor and Duty

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or even buff yourself with it to face tank damage to revive them

oblique totem
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I'm usually last or second to last to go down. Unless something crazy happens.

idle swallow
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doin a little special shot goofery what should I change

oblique totem
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I should mention that I was speaking about the revive ability on its own, supposing Duty and Honor was nerfed or not being used

odd sparrow
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In my opinion they shoud nerf base CD to 45

Remove cd penalty on revive
Maybe lower duration on overtoughness but it might not be needed

oblique totem
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As it stands, yellow bar makes revive option obsolete

faint beacon
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I honestly think the (normal toughness not over-toughness) regain should be a global thing on VOC

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and Duty and Honor's should be that overbuff

hollow ibex
faint beacon
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just so then the revive has something backing it up

marble yew
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Any loadout tips to doing adept assassin penance quickly or is it painfully slow for everyone?

oblique totem
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Which penance is that again?

marble yew
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Got like 20 in a full match while trying to trigger the effect

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250 crit weakspot kills with weapon specialist buff active

odd sparrow
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Shoot into crowds with columnus mk V easy

marble yew
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kind of feels like the stars have to align to get some progress on that, critical headshots with the buff on and only specialists and elites

odd sparrow
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It does so much weakspot dmg it 1 taps trash in the head

oblique totem
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Yeah, autogun into crowds gets you the crits easiest

marble yew
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yes but its not counting trash it says

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it says elites and specialists

last parcel
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zarona revolver

tame lodge
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It's not the MF one, people

oblique totem
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I was gonna suggest shotgun but I guess revolver works better

last parcel
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shotgun can work too

faint beacon
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revovler is the most effecient

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quick swap

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high crit

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its Weakpoint crit kills you need

tame lodge
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Any mission with Wave of Specialist

faint beacon
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^

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Absolutely helps

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Shocktroop Guantlets

marble yew
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i got about 22 kills out of 250 in a game where i actively tried

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i went with plasma which i think is a mistake though

oblique totem
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Exec stance might help here

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Highlights specialists, reduces recoil

last parcel
oblique totem
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I did not know that

marble yew
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how many games for that progress so far approximately?

oblique totem
frank monolith
ocean idol
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What are good vet weapons right now?

marble yew
drowsy merlin
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Can anyone help me cheese the on overwatch penance?

junior rivet
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maybe more, i started this morning

oblique totem
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Hey that's better than me

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Took me like, 10 games to get that far

ocean idol
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I don't even care about penances

marble yew
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i was planning on going smoke grenade and just sit stationary and blast enemies from the smoke on that one

junior rivet
oblique totem
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I thought the recon lasgun was perfect for it. I was wrong

junior rivet
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im just rippin ass with the agri br

oblique totem
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Bro same

stoic mantle
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Workable?

oblique totem
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I'd swap terrifying barrage for dumdum

stoic mantle
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Well thats a given, CIAG would be worthless without dumdum

oblique totem
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Ok good

stoic mantle
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What should I use the 2nd alteration on?

oblique totem
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Oh hey this has already been answered

torn root
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idk i just got back but ppl still struggle on damnation because they dont do 360s

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clutched up 3 times just to fall then fail sob

compact skiff
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Snagged this beauty from the armoury

torn root
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there is deathspitter too which i think a lot of ppl run with dumdum

tame lodge
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Yeah because power plus power

torn root
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^ i just like sustained fire because i end up burst firing majority of the time, and i can use it on bosses

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but damage is always a plus

stoic mantle
stoic mantle
oblique totem
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I have made it through exactly 3 damnation missions

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Two were pure luck

torn root
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its never luck

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give yourself credit lmao

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as long as you 360 it gets easier

oblique totem
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What's 360?

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I'm probably not doing that

compact skiff
oblique totem
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Oh.

torn root
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lmao

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not the rating

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360s in horde games is a common tactic for keeping up awareness

oblique totem
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Ok no memes. I'm new I might think you're being serious

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You mean just. Looking around?

torn root
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^

compact skiff
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yeah pretty much

torn root
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cover your 6

compact skiff
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also just keeping track of sound cues

torn root
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that too

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ppl forget that dudes spawn behind them

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the sound queue helps too but idk how it is if you are blasting the music

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even thought the music in this game kinda bangs

compact skiff
oblique totem
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Is that not. Already common?

torn root
oblique totem
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Like spawns come from every direction

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With special enemies there are audio cues

torn root
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youtube playlist when im sitting in the hub to hear the songs in game

oblique totem
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I'm looking around anyway because of those idols

astral valve
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Is it annoying when someone throws a smoke grenade at the group's feet to obscure them from ranged versus throwing the smoke grenade at the ranged guys? I have always done the former and it seemed to work pretty well, but I got scolded today and told to throw them further away. I've never felt like it really affects visibility enough to cause a problem and if there are multiple groups of ranged enemies I thought it took care of that scenario well too

Have I been an asshole this whole time

torn root
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I get auditory overload, so i usually turn game music off for most games 😦

oblique totem
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I treat smoke grenades sort of like the barrier psykers can call up. I throw it in the middle, so the team can maneuver without compromising their sight.

echo sky
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is it worth it to level the one on the right?

also should I switch gloryhunter with crucian roullete on the right?

junior needle
junior needle
oblique totem
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Why flak over carapace?

junior needle
oblique totem
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Ah

junior needle
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And many weapons perform poorly against carapace to begin with

hollow ibex
midnight totem
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it works

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although I almost always take grenade tinker with frag grenades for the increase in aoe

naive burrow
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Is there a good veteran guide like there is the "Ogrynomicon" for ogryns?

last parcel
naive burrow
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oh, i see

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ty

ember folio
oblique totem
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Vets can't read

naive burrow
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57 pages

midnight totem
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no

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if anything I'd drop rending

ember folio
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id have to drop two

oblique totem
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Superiority complex is pretty good though.

midnight totem
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10 percent more rending is not a big difference when your weapons is a power sword and revolver

ember folio
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should i run power sword tho?

midnight totem
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when they both have immense amounts of rending built in, raw damage is better for them

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power sword is great

ember folio
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is power sword better than chain sword for hordes? cuz ill probably need horde melee

midnight totem
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yes and no

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power sword mulches hordes, as long as you have the space to charge first

ember folio
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also id still need to drop another thing than just rending lol

somber axle
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It will automatically pull you to the relevant entries

oblique totem
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Chainsword goes brrrrr

umbral scaffold
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Even for cases where you need to limit the amount of ranged enemies attacking you, it's better to throw the smoke at the enemy or between you and the enemy

midnight totem
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most chainswords only need a decent cleave blessing to deal with hordes

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plus, your build lacks melee attack speed

umbral scaffold
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People in a situation bad enough to want to constantly drop smoke at their feet are likely putting themselves in a bad position

torn root
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🙂

sullen thorn
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I think this classifies as a godroll pogryn

oblique totem
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Agreed on smoke point, I tend to place it between the team and enemies. Among them if they are tightly packed

somber axle
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You can solve the problem by pinging enemies

oblique totem
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Always Be Pinging

somber axle
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If someone is upset that specials/elites are sneaking in unseen then you can ping them

midnight totem
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anyway @ember folio , what I'd do is take out volley adept and the node after it

sullen thorn
somber axle
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Solves the problem instantly and easily

midnight totem
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go for increased stamina after confirmed kill

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there, two nodes

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put that into grenade tinkerer

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I run revolver, and trust me, you will always find time to reload quickly even without a reload talent

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or at least you should be able to

torn root
midnight totem
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oh right, yeah, take out deadshot too

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you already have surgical

ember folio
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note that isnt my build btw

junior rivet
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finally

torn root
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ngl i know everyone fawns over redirect fire but i legit think its over kill most of the time

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lmao

junior rivet
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goffy ass penance

ember folio
midnight totem
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nah

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save that talent

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have fun with it'

ember folio
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uhhh
rending

midnight totem
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check your breakpoints

ember folio
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i dont know no damn breakpoint

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my minds at its breakpoint

midnight totem
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if you can two hit a mauler or crusher

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with your melee

ember folio
midnight totem
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if you can't, put it in the 10 percent damage melee node

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demo team is always funny

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you'll be fighting enough elites and specialists in auric anyway

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keep tossing them grenades

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there is nothing in this game that cannot be solved with liberal application of enough grenade

oblique totem
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Shred wack wack

ember folio
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i imagine this fella is sheiBe but what yall think? (i figure unyielding > maniac first)

midnight totem
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can you one hit a reaper?

torn root
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Target Down + Iron Will + Exhilerating Takedown + Confirmed Kill

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the condom build

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i dont even have to relearn this game if i don't die XD

ember folio
junior needle
ember folio
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so maniac it is

junior needle
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Gunner are also important targets

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And elite helps with both of them and various other enemies

oblique totem
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In my experience, a group of gunners are more dangerous than most anything else

umbral scaffold
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Elitussy

ember folio
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i dont have the plasteel for this indecision fam

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we're maniacs now, sorry

oblique totem
ember folio
midnight totem
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then take off unyielding lol

ember folio
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i already maniac'd it lol

oblique totem
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Huh. Not sure what else I expected.

ember folio
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are there conditions i need to meet before i shoot em

midnight totem
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my favorite revolver is unarmored/elite

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I can headshot scab and dredge gunners with or without crit from very far distances if need be

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crit headshot any rager

umbral scaffold
midnight totem
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regular headshot any shotgunner

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two crit headshot reapers and maulers

oblique totem
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Aim. Click.

ember folio
torn root
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technically you should tag them 1st

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.>

ember folio
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OH. FIE IS THAT PART OF THE BREAKPOINT

oblique totem
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Always Be Pinging

midnight totem
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which part?

torn root
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lmao

ember folio
torn root
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up to +20% more damage, pretty important

torn root
ember folio
midnight totem
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Oof. Not quite

ember folio
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sometimes i two shot them

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most of the time actually but its inconsistent

torn root
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thats with superiority complex + bring it down?

ember folio
#

yep

torn root
#

dang

ember folio
#

and focus and rending strikes

tall torrent
ember folio
#

am i on the right mk?

tall torrent
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Mk2a is right

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But elite is more important than maniac

ember folio
#

then its gotta be the crit bonus or something

tall torrent
#

Maniac is only for Dreg rager 1 crit bodyshot

torn root
#

hmm

ember folio
#

so chuck an elite perk on instead?

torn root
#

was that with long shot too?

tall torrent
ember folio
midnight totem
#

He has that

torn root
#

yeah yikes

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i couldnt recommend kill zone

ember folio
#

crit bonus then?

midnight totem
#

Oh. Yeah

ember folio
#

or maybe curios

midnight totem
#

That's a painful crit bonus

torn root
#

maybe need crit bonus and rending [hand cannon] to be higher

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yeah actually

ember folio
#

hand cannon 4 too? thats a tall buckin order

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im lucky enough to have this gun

torn root
#

welcome to the looting shooting grind

midnight totem
#

It's alright

last parcel
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cant you just swap maniac to elite damage

torn root
#

where you either hit the lottery ticket or hit the bucket

ember folio
midnight totem
#

You're gonna be like me, blow 2 million dockets on making the perfect revolver

ember folio
#

i still dont have a power sword

midnight totem
#

(Which I still don't have)

torn root
ember folio
#

this dinky old thing is my goto melee

torn root
#

im crying still

tall torrent
ember folio
#

best o the bunch? (assuming optimal modifications)

ember folio
thorny cobalt
#

the helbores make me so sad

tall torrent
#

Maniac is only for 1 specific breakpoint after u already have elite perk

torn root
#

they burned their plasteel

ember folio
torn root
#

yall kinda made him swap a perk without giving him the prio he should have gotten

tall torrent
tall torrent
midnight totem
#

It's okay

torn root
#

you'd be the exception then

midnight totem
#

Go earn some plasteel

ember folio
torn root
#

i still think they needs a different gun

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that crit aint sitting right

midnight totem
#

It's serviceable enough

torn root
#

in all cases onces you've gone past 50%

ember folio
#

yeah. ill slap on elite on what i have first and then start cranking 90s rolling revolvers, just need to get resources

torn root
#

5% crit is so heavily diminished

ember folio
#

oh yall i might need to aim longer to get surgical? that might account for inconsistency

midnight totem
#

Long as you get the crit

torn root
#

you'd technically get a crit no matter what if you actually stack surgical

ember folio
#

friends, i can get one shots if i aim long enough it seems

midnight totem
#

You can hold surgical until like, 6 or 7 stacks for a guaranteed crit. Well 7 for you

torn root
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it makes the 5% feel even worse

torn root
#

hold it, farm plasteel then replace it 🙂

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if you feel the need later on

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or want*

ember folio
#

time to farm plasteel and figure out i hate the thing :D
(ammo is pain)

somber axle
#

Plasteel is at least easier to farm after the update

ember folio
#

oh?

torn root
#

the +50 finds actually add up

tall torrent
#

If u have all 4 heretic idols destroyed, and do martyr’s skull (at least 1 member on team not yet have it, and that person collects it), that’s +50x4 +100 in damnation for 300 plasteel extra

somber axle
#

Yeah if you do puzzles for martyr's skulls you can get 100 plasteel per skull on a mission

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Destroying idols gets you 50 plasteel per idol

tall torrent
somber axle
#

I have had 1000+ plasteel missions in Damnation lately

tall torrent
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If u alrdy had it and you pick up martyr skull it doesn’t count

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No plasteel gain

somber axle
#

That makes sense

oblique totem
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Only to immediately throw it all into the fire for a very slight improvement

somber axle
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Good to check with the squad to see if anyone hasn't done the puzzle yet when you're coming near one

ember folio
#

i know not of these martyr skulls

torn root
#

marginal improvements make a big diff in this game

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as sad as that is

somber axle
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Some of them require jumping puzzles and some of them require using levers or batteries or secret doors or finding objects to interact with

midnight totem
#

Ib4 crafting rework takes 20k diamantine per roll

somber axle
#

Like the shower room puzzle

somber axle
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You have to turn on all the showers with the red Inquisition letter I before they turn off on a timer

torn root
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io stopped pickng up diamantine lmao

somber axle
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If you turn on all the showers it unlocks a door near the back by the medicae to a locker room with a skull

midnight totem
#

Oh so that means... you have something to work towards?! KEKW_ogryn

tall torrent
#

I’ve found it easier to accumulate plasteel since this patch

somber axle
#

Much easier to get plasteel yeah

tall torrent
#

Before it was roughly 2 game = craft 1 weapon to gold
Now it’s 1.4 game = craft 1 weapon to gold

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Around that

somber axle
#

Plus a lot of people are focused on penances rather than crafting so after a few missions grinding away at penances I glance at my resources and I'm suddenly up 4000 plasteel

tall torrent
#

Also maybe cuz I’ve gotten good gear for all my classes that I don’t craft as much anymore

torn root
#

you craft till gold?!

tall torrent
#

I basically only keep 540+ weapons now

somber axle
#

The extra plasteel has been nice for getting me to try weapons I wouldn't have looked at otherwise

torn root
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i legit just craft till green 2, and only make gold when the base is 370+

somber axle
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I am now a Chainaxe main

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VRRRRRRR

last parcel
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wtf i read that as chinese man

torn root
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or has a dump stat i really couldnt care about

somber axle
#

I am a Chinese Cat

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(Not actually Chinese or a cat)

last parcel
#

xiaolongbao cat

tall torrent
torn root
#

dumpling kitty?

last parcel
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yes

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cat soup

torn root
#

.>

tall torrent
#

Only 3 blessings left for veteran that I don’t yet have

torn root
#

bro im gunna cry

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when i swap my brutal momentum and cant 2 tap crushers anymore

oblique totem
#

Caaaat

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Pet

torn root
#

i dont wanna take off the helmet build i got going atm

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i think i did the math an I might not need BM

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but too broke to prove it now

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156 plasteel 😦

tall torrent
oblique totem
#

Back to the plasteel mines

tall torrent
torn root
#

yo actually

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i did 4 runs so far

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and got like 50 penances

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though i think some of them were retroactive

oblique totem
#

I have a penance question

tall torrent
#

But a lot of them u can get very early on

torn root
#

really when i logged on i had gotten a bunch completed too tho

tall torrent
#

They reduced requirement for a lot of penances

torn root
#

all i had to do was collect them

tall torrent
#

Skull hoarder is 500k instead of 1M now

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So yea

oblique totem
#

Do they reset? Like a sort of season thing that other games do?

oblique totem
#

Missed opportunity

tall torrent
#

They will expand on it later on

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But they’re not going to vault stuff we have rn

midnight totem
#

Penances are just achievements

torn root
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just got another 18 done

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lmao

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wtf

tall torrent
midnight totem
#

I'm about to finish my last vet penance today

tall torrent
#

Are u aiming for Moebian 6th drip

midnight totem
#

Just need 10 more kraken grenade kills

oblique totem
#

Meaning that other rewards will become available and current ones might be lost forever?

ember folio
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cant farm plasteel cuz every game is just a bunch of imcompetence :(

torn root
#

1505

ember folio
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i say as i misspell incomptenence

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twice

tall torrent
ember folio
#

normal damnation

oblique totem
#

Incompetent at spelling. Competent at war.
A true Vet

tall torrent
#

I can get on later

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Need to do ogryn penances

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I’m at 3900 rn

midnight totem
#

Nice

tall torrent
#

Finished psyker today

ember folio
#

there is no later

oblique totem
#

Witchcraft

torn root
#

legit cant bother to aim for pennances

tall torrent
#

Psyker was just not fun lol 2500 special & elite kills

torn root
#

when i am still missing BLESSINGS

ember folio
oblique totem
#

Gotta get 100 percent collection

midnight totem
#

I feel like they put an extra 0 in there

tall torrent
oblique totem
#

They just want psyker mains to suffer. You know, make it more immersive.

torn root
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well ive been playing for 2 hrs now

midnight totem
#

I'm trying to do assail and kill with empowered psionics together

torn root
#

i guess ill get them when i get them

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doesnt help that im forced to cluth every game ive played on my day back

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ppl dont look behind them and im too damn rusty

midnight totem
#

It's not going well for empowered assail

tall torrent
tall torrent
#

Brain burst for EP penance was way faster

oblique totem
torn root
midnight totem
#

I figured. I originally played BB

torn root
#

but i refuse to not do damnation

tall torrent
midnight totem
#

Never played assail until the Penances

oblique totem
#

Rip

tall torrent
# torn root 🤣

Some penances also require u to play very wacky stuff
But Moebian 6th Armor is worth it

#

A few weird ones

midnight totem
#

You mean like zealot loner?

#

I played one round as that

torn root
#

well imma keep my helmet on

midnight totem
#

Decided it was not for me

torn root
#

with my 80% DR

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and pray i dont have to farm with NPCs

astral valve
#

It seems like there are people on both sides of this at least, so I don't feel quite so bad

tall torrent
#

Veteran:

  • 2500 kills with marksman’s focus at 10 stacks (most efficient way is to crab walk melee or magdump horde)
  • 500 kills with krak grenade on armored targets (most efficient way is to stick scab shooters, stalkers & bruisers in hordes

Zealot:

  • 250 backstab kills on ranged enemies, while not being in coherency with Loner aura

Psyker:

  • 2500 elite & specialist kills with the +elite dmg aura equipped
torn root
#

kotowaru

somber axle
torn root
#

im not doing ANY of those ANY time soon

#

lmao

tall torrent
tall torrent
#

Veteran’s 2 upper body cosmetics look rly good and are fairly easy to do

midnight totem
#

Crab walk melee

torn root
#

the best cosmetic is a t4 blessing i dont have 😦

midnight totem
#

Sit next to a spawn door

tall torrent
old quail
#

zealot's looks kinda goofy

midnight totem
#

I wish it was black

last parcel
#

zealots are goofy by nature

tall torrent
#

Goofy class gets goofy cosmetics

last parcel
#

exactly

tall torrent
#

I wish it had back armor

last parcel
#

why else did fatshark give them bdsm gear

tall torrent
#

Why is it only front armor

last parcel
#

NO RETREAT

midnight totem
#

This is zealot slander.... and it is absolutely warranted

oblique totem
#

Only attack

midnight totem
#

Alright. Dinner done. Back to game

last parcel
oblique totem
#

Zealot is a good class for roleplaying a Krieger

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dusty gate
last parcel
torn root
oblique totem
#

My original vet build had six wounds

dusty gate
torn root
oblique totem
#

They don't. I just went down a lot

torn root
#

its a descriptor mod but i'd have to check to remember the name

dusty gate
#

Please do check)

oblique totem
#

My solution was, instead of getting better, simply get more free injuries.

oblique totem
#

T4 minimum

dusty gate
#

Truly one of the heresy players of all time)

oblique totem
#

The build did not do well in damnation so I had to adjust to toughness

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Which turned out to be the right choice, so I must be doing something right.

torn root
#

I think its either the 'What the Localization'' Mod or the ''Quick Look Card'' Mod

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probably the localizer

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because it changes the descriptions on the skill tree too

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pretty useful

dusty gate
#

It's the latter, thanks)

torn root
#

Quick Look?

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or you were interested in just the gear cards

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im assuming

dusty gate
midnight totem
#

just posted some potential heresy on reddit, aw yeah

oblique totem
#

Heresy posting. Shameful.

hearty panther
#

1155 plasteel, hell yea

tulip condor
#

YO! What blessings do you want on a Kantrael 12 Lasgun?

gray finch
tulip condor
regal aurora
#

It has taken me 142 power swords to finally get power cycler IV

midnight mortar
winter ingot
#

question about the smoke grenade penance does it only count enemies in the intial explosion of smoke or any enemy that runs through it while the smoke is up

junior needle
#

Ghost is primarily for deadshot/dnd shenanigans

split sapphire
#

Dost falter blessing not work well for the lasgun?

tall torrent
#

Because u want consistent headshots

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Falter = enemies stagger more = less consistent headshots = kill slower

split sapphire
#

Man

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Ok

junior needle
#

It wouldn't work well on any gun because it's shit KEKW_ogryn

split sapphire
#

I always get the crap stuff it seems

#

Well if i said i have mercy killer and uncanny strike on my combat blade, is that a bad combo? Or should i do something else. I'm curious

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Or what would folks run that they enjoy on it the most

tall torrent
#

It’s good, u just have to grab serrated blade in the talent tree

split sapphire
#

I got that bruv

radiant chasm
split sapphire
#

Indeed

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How many times does the bonus stack on that blessing?

#

Speaking of which

somber axle
# split sapphire Dost falter blessing not work well for the lasgun?

For reference I tested Falter IV on a Helbore Mk III against Crushers and found that even 90% stagger resistance on weakspot hit had no noticeable impact on them in the Psykanium. It does not cause them to stagger back or fall over. At best you may be able to give them the light stagger that stops them briefly during an attack animation but with the Mk III Helbore it can already 1HKO Crushers with the right set up and can still kill them in 2-3 shots even without that build. Falter is just not worth having ever LOL

tall torrent
split sapphire
#

Ah

tall torrent
#

non-linear dmg scaling based on number of stacks applied

last parcel
#

looks like fatshark faltered in making a good blessing

tall torrent
#

very low dmg at low stacks

radiant chasm
tall torrent
#

much higher dmg at high stacks

somber axle
#

The single use case I can think of is like maybe the Kantrael IV with Falter IV might be able to put out enough shots fast enough into a target without doing enough damage to kill to maybe hit whatever the stagger threshold is for it on some targets but even that is absolutely not worth sacrificing a blessing for since you would benefit more from Deadly Accurate/Headhunter or Deadly Accurate/Ghost

tall torrent
#

bleed stack to 16
burn stack to 31
soulblaze stack to 31

radiant chasm
#

i'm guessing they thought stagger would be as useful in DT as it is in VT2

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but that obv fell through

split sapphire
#

Dang, no wonder infernus headhunter recons cause so much burn dps

radiant chasm
#

infernus has a cap

split sapphire
#

Right but still

somber axle
#

Recon Infernus cap is 12 stacks

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That's still a significant increase to DPS on healthier targets though

radiant chasm
#

also idk where burn/soulblaze 31 comes from can i get a link or somethin

#

a lot of blessings and talents have a cap

somber axle
#

At max stacks I think it is ticking away for 241 damage per tick for the first few ticks before the damage begins to lower for the last ticks

split sapphire
#

Purgatory flamer from zealot and something staff from psycher

somber axle
#

On a Recon that's a pretty big increase to damage

radiant chasm
#

yea on recon it's your best damage blessing

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on all other lasguns, it's just better to get a blessing that kills faster

#

inferus helbore staregryn

somber axle
#

Plus it means that even glancing crit shots at a target that flees around a corner will set them on fire and potentially kill them as they run away. I've killed lots of fleeing trappers and hounds by getting that split second burst into them before they round a corner and see them in the kill feed a couple seconds later

last parcel
somber axle
#

Yeah Infernus is really only good on the Laspistol Mk II or the Recons. You have much better blessings available for Helbores and Kantrael Infantry Lasguns

radiant chasm
#

there is better options

somber axle
#

Dum Dum increases Infernus damage iirc but Headhunter means more consistent crits on targets at long range to build to max stacks faster while preserving more ammo through Shock Trooper too

radiant chasm
#

recon just doesn't have them

somber axle
#

So I run Dum Dum/Infernus on my Mk II Laspistol if I'm not running my Medic build with Dum Dum/Reassuringly Accurate

radiant chasm
#

ahh nvm

#

i mistook las pistols list for inflas list

#

yea on pistol it works too

somber axle
#

Mk II is the pistol that makes it work

#

Mk X is slower firing and higher damage per shot for a diet Kantrael XII that you can fire one handed

tall torrent
#

Most DOT related blessings in this game are quite mid

somber axle
#

I would suggest Dum Dum/Ghost on that one over Infernus

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Bloodletter is muuuuuch more fun than Infernus

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But if you go for a dot focused build

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You can do the bleed and burn strat I like to do

#

Alternate keeping bleed and infernus stacks ticking

radiant chasm
#

the only dot related things that kinda work is blazing trauma

#

lawbringer can go flechette but it's not the best option

somber axle
#

It's fun if you're running a Ranged Weapon with Infernus and a Melee Weapon with Bloodletter

radiant chasm
#

there is just better options

last parcel
#

flechette ripper gun + burn chadgryn

somber axle
#

I feel like an Affliction Warlock from WoW maintaining dots on bosses but in melee LOL

radiant chasm
#

fatshark buffed crafting too much now i keep getting t3s at minimum

late hatch
radiant chasm
tall torrent
#

It’s very generalist

radiant chasm
#

and i'd use them all before i use flesh tearer uncanny knife again

#

hell on vet i'm using mercy+ uncanny with serrated blade

tall torrent
#

Flesh tearer makes horde clear notably better tho

radiant chasm
#

basically every blessing i listed will do it better than flesh tearer

tall torrent
#

Not a fan of executor

radiant chasm
#

executor is weird

tall torrent
#

Or precog tbh

#

Executor is crazy inconsistent

radiant chasm
#

and precog is high skill, but riposte exists

oblique totem
#

Finally home. Time to kill heretics

tall torrent
#

I’m getting very conflicting accounts on it

radiant chasm
#

it is just slow damage

#

it is basically overkill because most enemies will die before it even ticks for a few second, from direct damage

tall torrent
#

On zealot or veteran

radiant chasm
#

and psyker

#

all of them can get weakspot/crit bonuses

#

zealot doesn't evne need a bleed blessing for the bleed talent because of how ridic scourge+blazing piety uptime is by default

tall torrent
#

Like, does knife have absurd falloff in cleave dmg distribution regarding weak spots

radiant chasm
tall torrent
#

Because of cleave falloff

radiant chasm
tall torrent
#

I’ll try it ig

#

Same 3 point spend anyways

faint beacon
#

but I do notice typical trash enemies get dropped extremely quickly

gray finch
#

with right build you can deal like 5k-8k to the monstrum per hit

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Mercy

tall torrent
#

I’ll try it then

#

Thx thumbsup_ogryn

faint beacon
#

Mainly cause of the fact Talent of Serrated I believe allows for it to just

tall torrent
#

I’m not very good at knife yet

faint beacon
#

happen without needing to aim at the head

#

BUT

#

you can use it for Weakpoint hits if you aren't running it

tall torrent
#

Ik mercy has better single target dmg

faint beacon
#

that or lacerate🤢 or Flesh tearer

tall torrent
#

Just because it’s far more consistent than crit fishing

faint beacon
#

Oh yeah its

#

a lot more nice

#

though you could get the Reciprocacy?

#

Talent?

#

i think its called

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

not the Blessing

gray finch
#

i like lacerate is super consistent

tall torrent
#

I only got 3 points to spare

faint beacon
#

Hmm

#

You'd probably have to make a more melee focused Vet if so

#

but again

tall torrent
#

It’s either 10% melee + serrated + mercy or reciprocity + desperado + flesh

faint beacon
#

thats a Strictly Knife vet build

radiant chasm
#

you'd get more consistency just aiming for headshots with uncanny strike

tall torrent
#

If I’m doing strict melee then I grab smokes and go both

radiant chasm
#

if you want bleed go flesh tearer, knife has an insane crit chance baseline

radiant chasm
# gray finch i combine it with it

it litearlly doesn't work, you have to aim down then up, and at that point you could have always been aiming up and using knife's amazing weakspot damage

faint beacon
tall torrent
#

Unfortunately

faint beacon
#

Wondering if you could somehow afford the rend perk

#

migth help

radiant chasm
#

it's a knife

tall torrent
#

Not worth it

faint beacon
#

not a shit ton but it does help

radiant chasm
#

uncanny is the best damage blessing in the game

faint beacon
#

Honestly have 0 clue if Uncanny + mercy would even be worth it either

#

If you're running Serrated maybe?

radiant chasm
#

uncanny mercy is worth with serrated blade

tall torrent
#

I spent 8k plasteel and got a pretty good grenadier gauntlet for ogryn penance grind

radiant chasm
#

yes,

tall torrent
#

I do not count on randoms to do special sniping

faint beacon
#

Which penance exactly?

rigid pilot
#

They rarely do

radiant chasm
#

if you aren't going serrated, you want riposte+uncanny on vet most likely

tall torrent
#

I’ll prob swap shattering to gloryhunter 4 once I get it

#

Shattering didn’t seem too useful

faint beacon
#

I gotta do a shit ton of em but im going to do Ogryn now seeing Vet is done

late hatch
faint beacon
#

and then Psyker afterwards

faint beacon
#

Currently on yes

tall torrent
#

Add me

faint beacon
#

Im running Glugger expect no ammo

#

lmao

tall torrent
#

It’s fine

#

I’m doing reg damn

#

I don’t wanna auric with my wack penance builds

#

Would rather not troll

faint beacon
#

Darktide hit me with a mild inconvenience (crashing)

#

but yeah I can here in a sec

last parcel
oblique totem
#

Troll only the deserving. And on heresy.

#

And sometimes on Damnation but only when it's really funny

#

But that's it!

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

EST, US East

#

I'd say toss me the add its crashing when I try to toss you one

tall torrent
#

Ok we in same time zone nice

oblique totem
#

East coast beast coast

faint beacon
#

Gotcha, I'll see if I got it

#

yeah got it

tall torrent
faint beacon
#

Good question, probably not right now

#

possibly later

tall torrent
#

All good

tall torrent
#

And do u need martyr skulls

faint beacon
#

I basically have everything in my build atm needed

#

Suppression, big boom, PBB, and my Keystone

#

FNP?

gray finch
#

good luck with lucky bullet one

last parcel
#

@somber axle DRUUUUUUUUUUGS DRUUUUUUUUUUUGS DRUUUUUUUUUUUGS
1400-1440 rpm depending on the math works

oblique totem
#

Hold up

#

What is that lasgun?

last parcel
#

it's a recon VId with the weapon customization mod

oblique totem
#

is modding... Well, I guess it is possible

last parcel
# oblique totem is modding... Well, I guess it is possible
Nexus Mods :: Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Weapon customization, flashlights, sights, scopes, equipment on back.Adds different kinds of qol and immersion things.And a bunch more stuff.

oblique totem
#

Yeah yeah, give me a break I bought the game like a week ago

inland orchid
#

dont worry im a few months into DT and i dont got mods

last parcel
#

imagine not knowing literally everything when first starting

inland orchid
#

fr

last parcel
#

i bet people had to teach you things as a kid

oblique totem
#

Shameful, I know

oblique totem
last parcel
#

🤮

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(shrek bj emoji)

oblique totem
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I- How dare you?

pseudo fiber
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Also all these mods are allowed you won't get banned etc etc just don't cheat or affect other players games

oblique totem
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Sounds risky but I'm gonna trust you

pseudo fiber
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Fatshark has a statement about it I'm sure someone could link it

last parcel
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why should i be honest when i can just

pseudo fiber
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Hrm Tox bomber in the veteran chat

oblique totem
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I feel like a tox bomber would be more... Zealot?

last parcel
oblique totem
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Do you just have that clip on stand-by?

last parcel
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no, someone just happened to upload it in another server just now

oblique totem
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... I don't believe you.

last parcel
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why not

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you can trust me

oblique totem
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Yeah see- I don't think I can.

inland orchid
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i love other game references in a game