veteran-class

[faint beacon]

Went rather quickly

[thick needle]

I refuse to switch off my beloved chaxe

[somber axle]

As soon as some YouTuber figures that out they'll make a video guide on the penance recommending shredders and lawbringer special shots into poxwalker hordes to speed run it

[thick needle]

Also known as the "Crusher delete button"

[somber axle]

"Run Scattershot and Manstopper, load up your special shot and collect an instant 30-50 kills firing at the horde!!"

[faint beacon]

It’s going to be so stupid when it becomes more common to see fucking veteran crabs grinding the focus penance

Lmao

[thick needle]

Is Lawbringer good for grinding Marksman

[faint beacon]

Anything with good swap speed and TTK

I suggest the revolver imo

[thick needle]

why that

[faint beacon]

Quick to swap to

Click on head

Easy to get the specialist penance

[thick needle]

Oh the specialist

[faint beacon]

Focus penance

Quite literally anything that horde clears

And a knife

[thick needle]

I haven't even started that one

[faint beacon]

So you can quickly move whilst crouching by side dodge spamming

[thick needle]

I was gonna use a Shredder and a chainsword

[somber axle]

Yes. Run Camo node for stacks while standing still. Click heads until 10 stacks. Load special wide horizontal shot and then with Manstopper blessing for extra cleave on crits and Scattershot for extra crit on multiple targets hit turn an entire horde into a fine mist

Ezpz

Tbh since you get 3 stacks per headshot kill you don't really need the camo node but it is a nice QoL to maintain 10 stacks for people who are new to Marksman's Focus so I suggest it because I have seen others recommend it

In 4 headshot kills you will be at 10 stacks

And with Shotgun that is very easy to do

[faint beacon]

That and I mean I can’t stress it enough crouch side spamming

[thick needle]

I've just been running my favorite CIAG and camo because aiming is for nerds

[faint beacon]

Easiest way to maintain stacks

[somber axle]

Darktide's spycrab

[faint beacon]

It’s pathetically easy to fly through it

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/spycrab-lol-gif-7559333

[last parcel]

mentlegen

[faint beacon]

Tide spawning in another crab cause of a penance lmao

[thick needle]

If Hadron can stop giving me Full Bore on the damn Lawbringer

[somber axle]

"WELL! OFF TO SLEEP WITH YOUR MOTHER! AHAHAHA" infiltrate

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knife-fight-gif-7305809

Knife veteran gameplay

They’re grinding focus

[somber axle]

Knife, Revolver, Infiltrate

We really do just have TF2 Spy in this game

Beta helmet even gives the ski mask

I think if there was a mod adding TF2 voice lines into Darktide it'd be one of the few mods I'd use

[last parcel]

too bad audio mods are cursed af

[somber axle]

Yeah

[last parcel]

at least we have brain fart aneurysm psyker

[faint beacon]

Veteran down lines being replaced with spy death sound

[last parcel]

gets hit by pox gas
is this...? MON DIEU

[somber axle]

LMFAO

Replace all Zealot lines with TF2 Pyro muffled nonsense and then everyone is casually understanding Pyrospeak in conversations during matches

[faint beacon]

Goes down to a pox burster instead of it being the death sound it’s just “I HAAATE YOU”

[somber axle]

"The Zealot is rather overactive today!"
"MMNNFMNF MNNFMF!!"

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-pyro-team-fortress-burn-in-flame-fire-gif-15811879

[faint beacon]

Flamer + Chastise is so stupid for hordes

Poxwalker B’Gone

[tall torrent]

Higher overkill dmg than actual dmg

[last parcel]

[dire olive]

People really out here using chastise for poxwalkers

[faint beacon]

Seen quite a few people do it

Usually mixed hordes though

[elder fiber]

with crit cdr you can get full ult refund from a single swing on trash hordes lol

its Funny

[tame lodge]

11 times

That's my max so far

[last parcel]

11 times i've clogged the toilet

[faint beacon]

Shooting for 12

[old quail]

sold my soul and did the marksman's focus penance in 1 mission

[stiff glacier]

Still havent even dared to try that or on the overwatch

[old quail]

sat at the end of smelter for 15 minutes with some friends just crabwalking and killing the spawns

[near sable]

think of all the +5 battle pass points

[winter grove]

I love watching you work Zealot

[sterile phoenix]

This worth buying from melkman?

[hollow ibex]

Nah that’s bricked. Unless you really need no respite

[sterile phoenix]

And should I continue trying to upgrade this?

[faint beacon]

Honestly if your second perk is flak or maniac and if you manage to get uncanny

It’s totally salvageable even in its current state

[hollow ibex]

Wouldn’t just because of the damage stat

You’d need to get very lucky to salvage it too

[faint beacon]

They don’t got any other options I’d say use it for the meantime but attempt a more DMG knife

[sterile phoenix]

So what are the "bare minimum" modifiers I should be looking for where the Mk III is concerned

I have over 5k resources in each so I am trying to just fish for different weapons

[hollow ibex]

I’d just roll anything that has 60 or so mobility and everything else above 70.

[faint beacon]

If you don’t have flesh tearer totally get that as a permanent unlock to put on knives

The knives tend to be picky

[hollow ibex]

Every stat on knife is important except for mobility

[faint beacon]

But when you get a good one it’s

Really fucking good

Uncanny + Flesh is usually your golden combo for Blessings

[sterile phoenix]

So is this more the stat spread I am looking for? (pen is down i know)

[inland orchid]

is nice that finesse is pretty high so ya this a solid lookin knife

[hollow ibex]

Mobility is too high at the expense of other stats

Penetration is important

[inland orchid]

inspect the pen im sure it'll be fine

this mine's pen but the modifier stat is a few numbers shorter than his so it aint that good of a reference but better than nothin

[sterile phoenix]

So if i had to trade first target vs penetration, what would i give up?

[last parcel]

your will to live

[hollow ibex]

True

But jokes aside prob penetration imo

You should have uncanny strike on the knife

[inland orchid]

ya 1st target multiplier is pretty solid to get the numbers flowin on those heavies

[sterile phoenix]

= me on the heavy copium right now

[last parcel]

[inland orchid]

behold what 1st target does

[sterile phoenix]

Duly noted

[inland orchid]

ya the inspect button goes crazy with learnin how a weapon ranged or melee functions modifier stat wise

love pointin them out to lads cuz they dont really explain em

[sterile phoenix]

All that aside, it's been a hot minute since I last played. Plasma + Shovel + VoC is strong but gets kinda boring after a while. Any weapon combos that are strong after a few patches?

[shy rose]

Guys
Left or right

Pref right so i dont need to buy a new one xD

The main question is probably how important is penetration on this gun

[inland orchid]

def right cool tier 4 perk

[shy rose]

Well the tier4 perk is horseshit for me

cus i cant aim for shit

so i have no use for weakspot hits xD

[sterile phoenix]

Okay last one tonight i swear. (pulled it from my last mission)

[topaz token]

that's dead

extremely unlikely you'll get the right blessing and perk in the next 2 rolls

but if you do, then it's a sweet knoif

[topaz token]

that's on crits. not headshots. different thing

oh wait I can't read

ignore me

[shy rose]

yeah if it was on crits i would insta buy it

cuss im critting all the time

[bitter turtle]

trickshooter is pretty bad yes

[hollow ibex]

Very nice stats. Pray to hardon for good rng

[bitter turtle]

the right one is not bad but the stats are a little sad, low pen

[sterile phoenix]

lol. Lmao even

Yeah I got the 60% weak spot Damage on rend and carapace

[bitter turtle]

eh?

what do you mean weak spot damage on rend

you mean bleed?

cause if you did you got a useable knife then

mercy killer + carapace

[tall torrent]

Wanna play?

[sterile phoenix]

Mercy killer

[bitter turtle]

yes

that's' fine

you actually got two good rolls

just swap the first two bad ones

[bitter turtle]

and sure

just make sure

you pick up serrated blades on the vet tree

executor -> uncanny strikes
sprint efficiency -> idk flak i guess it doesnt really matter that much

[sterile phoenix]

Huh. Well praise the god emperor then I suppose

[bitter turtle]

mercy killer isnt the best blessing but its also far from the worst so

you can totally use it

[strange bane]

Any tips for On Overwatch?

[vernal harbor]

Is that the accuracy one or the not hit by melee one

[strange bane]

No hit by melee

[bitter turtle]

dont get hit and dont play a mode with dogs

[vernal harbor]

Accuracy one just use a revolver and make sure no one has survivalist and for melee prey

[bitter turtle]

use stealth or voc

[vernal harbor]

I object and recommend to just power through it with skill in dodging, you’ll be a force of nature by the time you get it

[strange bane]

Lag gets in the way of dodging a lot. I ge tp'd back to my otiginal spot

[vernal harbor]

Veterans don’t cheese

We persevere and brag

[strange bane]

What is the least bone-breaking way

[vernal harbor]

and embellish

[strange bane]

NGL IDC about the bragging I just need to get it done

[bitter turtle]

i told you

[vernal harbor]

Infiltrate and sword parry

[bitter turtle]

use voc or stealth

i recommend stealth

[strange bane]

Invis is only for like 8 seconds though haha

[bitter turtle]

use on overwatch and low profile

yes

but you can press it any time you feel like you amy or may not get hit

and feel remotely threatened

do it on malice

its not that hard

[vernal harbor]

I mean, you’re gonna have to earn it

[strange bane]

It has to be on Heresy or up

[bitter turtle]

oh

heresy then

idk

i forgot

[strange bane]

Wait I'm wrong

[bitter turtle]

same shit

[vernal harbor]

Yeah yuri

[strange bane]

Malice and up

[bitter turtle]

use knife and laspistol if you want extra mobility

here

use this exact tree

you will zip around everywhere

and stealth the moment you feel like ur in danger

[tall torrent]

(Carpal tunnel warning)

[bitter turtle]

if you still cant do it then its legitimately you need to just play better

[strange bane]

???

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/c8cfc67d0315fccbdc2b31c5cf8bdd98.png

i was making it

sorry

lol

but yeah

knife and laspistol are the highest mobility weapons on gun and melee respectively

you also take max movespeed

and you have stealth 2 xharges

and aggro drop

[tall torrent]

Karnak twins, bell skip to boss fight, just block / dodge

Use invisibility when threatened

[bitter turtle]

if you still get hit i do not think there is anything more you can do

in terms of making it easier

[strange bane]

I will study this sensei

Thanks gang

[bitter turtle]

you can also do it in karnak yeah

its a shorter mission

the special assignment

[strange bane]

What is that?

[bitter turtle]

the special assignment

[strange bane]

[bitter turtle]

on the bottom left corner

if you queue with sojmeone who has already finished it

you can skip the entire map to the boss fight at the end

so just dont get hit during the boss fight

[tall torrent]

@bitter turtle we’re doing heresy if that’s ok with u cuz friend new to game

[bitter turtle]

yeah thats fine

actually

elt me just go on oger then

[strange bane]

wHAT!

So find someone who has already beaten that mission before?

[bitter turtle]

yes you can try to ask for help if you want

from someone

in this discord

[strange bane]

So if you beat that mission you can jsut skip to boss fight on consecutive runs?

[bitter turtle]

tbh im not sure if you have to just beat it or beat it on hard mode

i forgot

but just look for someone who has the bells ready basically

[strange bane]

What do you mean bells?

Is that a curio?

[bitter turtle]

for people who have done it

there are a couple bells in the beginning of the map

you can ring them to either do hard mode or skip to teh boss

[fading imp]

could a plasma gun enthusiast explain the mindset and playstyle? i struggle to use it effectively as a recon/iag main

[bitter turtle]

shoot elites and specialists

melee trash

[strange bane]

Oooooh

[bitter turtle]

ngl

id just do it in malice normal game mode if you cant be assed to find ppl to help you]

[strange bane]

I'll study what you told me

Thank you

[tame lodge]

No charging

Point and click

[faint beacon]

Just got untouchable operative

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/298RNRZ6d3KyHU/d1337JpXu9Pz?invite=cr-MSxWMVMsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Also as promised

I did it

[grave dock]

any recommendation for a build while leveling vet?

[last parcel]

you could start off with these talents. they're pretty universal and you can split off to experiment when you get more points. Voice of Command is powerful and easy to use

you can take krak grenades (middle) instead if you're having problems with big carapace enemies

[thick needle]

What do yall think

I should do with this

Dunno if I should replace Falter or one of the perks

[somber axle]

Does Falter have any benefit on the Headhunters?

[last parcel]

none that i'm aware of

[somber axle]

Probably swap out Falter for Deadly Accurate then

[elder fiber]

Nah its crap on hh

Falter I mean

[tough tiger]

is there a way to reduce the jerky visual recoil of the mg 12?

[somber axle]

Btw does the gun feel ok with that stability Stat?

[tough tiger]

i hate how it bounces all over despite being a laser gun

[somber axle]

If not you could run Deadshot or Exe Stance to make the low stability feel better but then you are running either Deadshot or Exe Stance

[final stag]

Grab VoC

And just wait until you're level 30

[thick needle]

Haven't tried yet

[somber axle]

Executioner's Stance reduces recoil iirc but it is up to you on if you want to trade Voice of Command or Infiltrate away to use it

[somber axle]

Would very much recommend it because I have a Boltgun with lower stability and it feels very tricky to use outside of Exe Stance with how it bounces

[tame lodge]

Try shooting from cover (no guarantee)

[somber axle]

Granted that is a Boltgun

You have a HH Autogun

You should have an easier time

[tough tiger]

i think i'll stick to my panic button

[somber axle]

Tbh I think Kantrael XII benefits a lot from Exe Stance

But that's fair

[tough tiger]

it does

[somber axle]

Panic button is very useful

[thick needle]

I'm not seriously building, I'm just goofing off with plasteel to burn

[tall torrent]

(Literally worthless without exe stance)

[somber axle]

Anyway @thick needle try the gun in the Psykanium and feel it out

It's honestly probably not that bad

[somber axle]

I wouldn't go that far but the Mg1a definitely outpaces it immensely and if someone isn't hitting the right breakpoints with the Kantrael XII there's no tangible benefit to using it over the Kantrael Mg1a other than if someone likes the slower firing mode feel

I trust your wisdom numbers cat but trash is treasure in my hands

[tall torrent]

If it’s outclassed in literally every way, it’s just worthless

[somber axle]

Maybe I should become Sneaky Raccoon

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-lilli-inspirational-quotes-gif-25672089

[somber axle]

SNEAKY RACCLOWN??

[somber axle]

Yeah story of my life with Recon vs CIAG LMFAO

[split sapphire]

I see

[somber axle]

I will cling to my trash and wield her to terrifying effect

[last parcel]

ciag dones't spit out lasers with no recoil. recon wins every t- pew pew mod and executioner's stance

https://tenor.com/view/sack811-cereal-zombiu-lenny-the-cat-gif-25417470

[idle swallow]

you can uhhh shoot for a bit longer with shock trooper...yea that's worth

[somber axle]

Yes and with my silly crit stacking shock trooper build I can shoot one long burst of fire longer than anyone using any other gun in the game before needing to reload

[last parcel]

the lasgun waterfall

[somber axle]

While others were reloading I was breakdancing in front of Wolfer's men and my gun is turning the battlefield into my own personal non-stop rave

[tame lodge]

While I'm out there stacking WS and letting it roar

[last parcel]

your fart?

[tame lodge]

Nah, that would do more damage than the recon

[last parcel]

😢

[tame lodge]

💀

I like the recons

But damn

[somber axle]

I mean I can kill Crushers in 2-3 seconds of sustained fire with equivalent-ish TTK to the average CIAG user Crusher TTK (except Mr. Craime's funny vid he showed once deleting it near instantly with his CIAG LMFAO) while using half the ammo on a clip size twice as large

I will fetch the gif but I do not have time to go into my whole clown show right now because I am at work

[last parcel]

maybe you should write a manifesto

[somber axle]

Nah no one would read it

Quick and easy disclaimer just in case because I don't want any new player to suffer trying to do what I do

Or their team to suffer more for the attempt

1. Talent tree set up to do this is silly
2. Effort to maintain Stam efficiency in real games is silly
3. Average player is not silly enough or has no desire to be this silly

If you don't like the idea of running triple Stam curios for +9 Stam avoid my clownery

But my unique clownery does that 10-13 ammo per Crusher kill while my CIAG with the same build kills it with only slightly higher DPS (less than 100 DPS) with TTK so similar you'd probably need to pause frame by frame to see the difference and uses 25-ish ammo

Variance in Recon ammo spent per Crusher is dependant on number of crit strings

As a final warning

[faint beacon]

Writes a 10 page document on how the CIAG does it slightly faster and why you should HATE HATE HATE the recon lasgun

[last parcel]

inflates you up real big

[faint beacon]

Do not

[somber axle]

do not do what I do unless you have two Wolves inside you and both of them are actually hyenas in clown costumes cackling

https://tenor.com/view/hyena-happy-lion-king-dancing-excited-gif-8591695

[somber axle]

Tbh you could probably compile the average CIAG praise comments with the average Recon hate comments in this discord and have a document three to four times that size easily if not more LMFAO

Anyway bye I return to work because lunch time is over

[faint beacon]

Fair

[dire olive]

Can use Marksman's Focus too since it's actually good now

[tall torrent]

Relying on MF for 1 tap breakpoints is just unreliable

[dire olive]

Skill issue

It's so easy to upkeep

Especially on Auric when spawns are constant

[radiant chasm]

i think the keystone really filters the FPS mains from the Tide mains

[dire olive]

As if headshotting things isn't a tide staple

In Vermintide it gives you free ammo

With that one blessing

Or huntsman

Or the one waystalker ult that isn't braindead

[late hatch]

I havent played VT2 for ages now. Maybe I should update it and have a crack

[hearty panther]

lul

got my auric exemplar with nothing but meme builds today

[last parcel]

[dire olive]

In fairness if you want the best DMR experience grab a Vraks VII, but calling the MG XII worthless without exe is a stretch

[radiant chasm]

yea some people love slandering guns that were literally the meta at one point and have just been outpaced by the other ones getting buffs

[late hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[radiant chasm]

now bolter? that's free reign

[dire olive]

Closest to "worthless" guns are the recons and they were basically never great in the first place

[hollow ibex]

poor bolter

i'd say recon is still better than shredder 🤔

[late hatch]

There was a small window when recons were super good

[radiant chasm]

wrong /qj

[dire olive]

They were useable

[trim steppe]

They had a few weeks once upon a time, before FS neutered them

[late hatch]

Infinite ammo full blast recon a or d

You could just perma fire and as long as you could hit things you never ran out of ammo

[dire olive]

The worst gun to ever grace the game was definitely the launch day kickback though

[late hatch]

Old lawbringer was pretty trash

[dire olive]

Kickback was another level of pain

[rigid pilot]

Kickback at least staggered

[dire olive]

The reload was like twice as long and it couldn't kill anything past 2 metres

[late hatch]

Should I update?

[last parcel]

why not

[rigid pilot]

If you don't update you can't play

[late hatch]

That Oct 23 I updated and played like 2 rounds. Prev play was like a year before that

[rigid pilot]

Doesn't Australia have download cap limits or something degenerate though

[late hatch]

Nah most of our NBN is unlimited, but if you are remote or on wireless/sat than you usually have limits then throttle

[rigid pilot]

[late hatch]

I did some building work last year pretty remote, client had sat. like 3s ping was pretty painful, but I didnt have my gaming rig anyway

[junior needle]

Disclaimer could use improvement

[junior needle]

One of them (6d) was quite good, the other two were still mid

mk2 is likely the lowest dps gun in the game

Of course it then got big shitted on

[late hatch]

Was the A the one with the better crit strings or something? Or was it just ROF?

[junior needle]

6d had the longest crit strings and fastest fire rate

7a had the shortest crit strings and slowest fire rate

mk2 is the middle one and its numbers are the worst

Now they all have crit strings of 2

[ember folio]

improvements?

going for precision if thats not given

[junior needle]

No respite and opening salvo are quite subpar

[rapid palm]

the blessings are crap but the perks are okay

not ideal, but okay

[ember folio]

oh i know i just want to know what to put there instead

[junior needle]

Carapace is not a good one

Likely surgical deadly and live with the perks

[late hatch]

Its never gonna be amazing, but you could put surg, HH, or DA on. Cara should be swapped for flak probs

[junior needle]

Surgical is mandatory

Da gives you at least about 300~ damage on a crit headshot

[rapid palm]

yeah surgical and deadly seem like your best choice

[junior needle]

Just remember that it's a breakpoint dependent gun so it needs a particular loadout for some things

[somber axle]

Give me a grade A through F I want to see how good I did on my clown test today teacher

[late hatch]

Æ

[junior needle]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-mediocre-gif-4592081

[somber axle]

I will work on a copy paste disclaimer

[ember folio]

improvements? (going for heavy marksman w/ team support)

[late hatch]

You probs want precision bottom left

[wild vortex]

hey folks, is Survivalist still worth picking or is the middle aura now better?

[late hatch]

Surv is still clearly the best aura imo

[hollow turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

[somber axle]

Depends

Allow me to explain

[junior needle]

It's like 1/10th as good as it was before

But still the best option

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-typing-typing-cat-gif-5751430

[somber axle]

There are exactly three situations you may want Fire Team instead of Survival Aura that all come with the pretext that whatever weapon you are using with the aura is not awful with ammo economy

1. You are a tiny bit of damage away from an important break point and cannot find the damage anywhere else. Fire Team 5% gives you that tiny bit more that lets you consistently hit the very important breakpoint you are otherwise missing because either the weapon lacks sufficient stats, you're making the most of a brick with subpar perks/blessings or you have a specific idea in mind for talents and can't spare the points elsewhere

2. Assassination/Karnak Twins boss fight teamwide buffing. Numbers cat confirmed aura damage buff is additive with Focus Target. Consider Fire Team is only 5% but it is teamwide and additive with 8 stack Focus Target. Now that 5% teamwide damage buff is combining with Focus Target 8 stack × 4% = 32% which with Fire Team is a 37% teamwide damage buff for existing in coherency with the team and tagging your boss

3. You have another Vet running Survival Aura already. There is no benefit to both Vets having Surv Aura because they do not stack

[ember folio]

marksman w/ support
Improvements?

[somber axle]

Movement speed aura is a meme and tbh it is a REALLY FUN MEME

[last parcel]

you already get suppression immunity while using executioner's stance

[somber axle]

I would recommend movement speed aura on any melee focused Vet build that has a weapon with ok ammo efficiency

[last parcel]

one time i switched to a move speed aura build because of #3 and then the survivalist vet when he got downed in the first minute

i have never trusted anyone since

[somber axle]

LMFAO

Ok fair

[ember folio]

replace with wut? longshot?

[somber axle]

If your Surv Aura Vet goes down you lose the aura so if you do not trust your other Vet to not die then run Surv Aura just in case even if it is doubling up to make sure even if you have to solo clutch you will have it active

[somber axle]

KEEP IN MIND

[wanton dawn]

Not taking iron will is bold choice imo

[last parcel]

mr paper skin

dead in one swipe

[somber axle]

If you have a weapon with terrible ammo economy/you find yourself consistently running low or even out of ammo on missions then you will want Surv Aura regardless to offset that

[last parcel]

[ember folio]

id have to pretty much go down middle for that

[late hatch]

If you can spare the points to pick up Iron Will, bottom middle, its super great at keeping you alive. You can face tank pretty much anything with it

[faint beacon]

You'd have to sacrifice 4 talents for it

but it is

[ember folio]

which talents tho

[faint beacon]

pretty damn helpful when you get screwed over by sudden crusher overhead jumpscare

[last parcel]

you can swap out the 3 grenades + the longshot, then move tunnel vision (or something else) to demo team to keep nade regen

[tough tiger]

how impactful is the surv nerf btw? i get conflicting opinions from ppl

[faint beacon]

If you actually swap between your melee and gun often you don't notice it

if you use your gun a lot you notice it

thats the best way I can sum it up

[late hatch]

Wait, is this for your HH build or for lasgun?

Coz shock trooper only works for las weapons

[tough tiger]

so what you're telling me is gun ogryn getting absolutely mogged

[faint beacon]

Kind of?

[wanton dawn]

Aura size increasz, 10 stack rending, replenishement keystone and either grenade box or power weakspot on ult

[faint beacon]

I tend to use my Melee quite frequent on Glugger though

so I dont really notice it

[somber axle]

You could probably safely drop Charismatic, the 10% toughness damage reduction node near Marksman's Focus, the 15 max cap on MF stacks and 10% rending at 10 stacks. That would give you the points for Iron Will and the talent node for reducing CD on special kill by 6 sec

[ember folio]

o that true

[wild vortex]

laughs in Burst Limiter Override Crit Achlys

[faint beacon]

Im going to make a GIAG here in a bit, whats some blessings I should slap on it?

perks I assume Flak + maniac

Graia Infantry before you ask

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/lollipop-sucker-dum-dum-gif-6004003

[somber axle]

It's either not a big deal or it has ruined your life depending entirely on whether or not you were a Boltgun main or someone who avoided melee at all costs and backpedaled while magdumping into poxwalkers

[hollow ibex]

very noticeable, i used to just leave ammo for teammates

but now i have to actually pick up ammo lol

[somber axle]

If you're neither of those it isn't a big deal

[wanton dawn]

Ah, and stam regen node without deadshot on a ranged build is very QoL

[somber axle]

You just pick up a few more ammo tins/packs

[hollow ibex]

fuck the lugger ogryn / recon psyker. i'm taking all the ammo for myself now

[supple stag]

Just use melee

Lmao

[hollow ibex]

no

[last parcel]

nah

imma magdump poxwalkers

see ya later vet losers

recon psykers stay winning

[supple stag]

FPS brainrot

[wanton dawn]

I had a game yesterday where i went out of juice 2 times on a ciag. I was eating ALL the ammo

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-suck-kirby-vacuum-cute-nintendo-gif-16544038

[hollow ibex]

holy munitions were are meant to be used liberally

[somber axle]

And Reclown Vets too (singular, me)

[last parcel]

you're our special little reclownty

that was supposed to be kitty at the end

[ember folio]

could also drop marksman for demo team

[last parcel]

i just realized out illegible that was

[tough tiger]

i guess my bolter vet is all good then

[somber axle]

It's ok I got it

[tough tiger]

[wanton dawn]

Tbf i had too. Team wasnt bad, quite good actually, but dmg was VERY low

[hollow ibex]

have fun emptying half your mag to open up bulwark shields

[somber axle]

Tbh I have taken Boltgun into Damnation matches and it felt fine even with ammo vacuum team mates

But Auric Maelstrom is a different story and idk how it does there

I have not run Boltgun in that

[wanton dawn]

Here. Carnival maelstrom, 32min or something #veteran-class message

[ember folio]

assumin i slap deadly and surgical on vraks, which would be better?

oh and headhunter on mk12
or whatever other edits yall think would be good

[forest breach]

sometimes i feel silly

[somber axle]

I mean with Executioner's Stance (which Boltgun users probably want anyway) allows it to open Bulwark shields in 2 shots and the hip fire is a 2 shot burst so it lines up perfect

[tough tiger]

i dont tho, i knew that would be a terrible idea when i read the patch notes

[somber axle]

You can also technically still open Bulwark shields with 1 shot if you wanna be funny

[wanton dawn]

Imagine having to kill fast enough for it not to skiddaddle

[faint beacon]

Alright is this even remotely salvageable

[tough tiger]

i use my bolter like a revolver essentially

[tough tiger]

wait hơ

[somber axle]

75%+ Collateral stat, Executioner's Stance, max Pinning Fire stacks and a Combat stim will ALL COMBINE TOGETHER to get you a one shot shield stagger on a Bulwark

[faint beacon]

(I have 2 other high roll Graia's)

[somber axle]

Allow me to show

[last parcel]

no don't give them hope

[somber axle]

Behold

[ember folio]

starting to think i should stick with my mk12

[somber axle]

1 shot Bulwark open

[wanton dawn]

You can open bullwark with 1 shot like you can kill crusher with 1 stab. With an unrealistic setup

[somber axle]

This is incredibly impractical to set up in an actual match

[frank ether]

I'd personally slurp deathspittter 4

[tough tiger]

lmao ok that is funny

[somber axle]

And technically you still need a bare minimum of 2 shots to open a shield because you need at least 1 other shot to AoE stagger enemies to get max pinning fire stacks

[faint beacon]

Rolled this for another one

[somber axle]

And you need combat stim active too

And Exe Stance

[faint beacon]

Ye, or Ney

[somber axle]

But with all that silliness you can do it

[forest breach]

officio perfectus goals

[ember folio]

How the hell do yall roll such high blessing and the like

[frank ether]

this already looks fine

[last parcel]

bro im gonna bust

[late hatch]

some people like raking, I think its a bit too hard to consistently make use of

[faint beacon]

I may or may not have an auto trasher for anything under Blank amounts

[last parcel]

having a gun with high base rating increases the chance of getting high tier blessings

[faint beacon]

ahem anything under or at 369 gets tossed

[late hatch]

Helps murdering bosses with unyeilding on it too though

[ember folio]

Interesante

[faint beacon]

and I may or may not get a lot of money back

a lot

[ember folio]

May or may not have to get an auto trasher of my own

[faint beacon]

ANYWAYS

Fellow vets

[wanton dawn]

Unyielding raking sure feels gimmicky

[faint beacon]

what should I change on it

[late hatch]

Dumdum

instead of raking

[faint beacon]

Fair

[last parcel]

omg toxic cat ban

[ember folio]

no dont ban the kitty aww whos a good ki

[faint beacon]

I should roll Dumdum IV!

That or put my gunker in utter damnation

cause he has a CIAG with Dumdum 4

[tough tiger]

@somber axlehello cate, is preferable to run shat impact and surgical for bolb gun now?

[faint beacon]

I will list what I get till I run out of Plasteel

[tall torrent]

Surgical + pinning fire

[faint beacon]

Stripped Down IV, Dumdum IV

I win

lol

[somber axle]

Listen to the numbers cat. He is wise and wrote the guide in pins. As much as I give advice I actually have less hours played than a lot of other Vets here. Plus I only play with the Boltgun casually because I am a Recon Mk VId Reclown main

[tough tiger]

how does pinning fire work btw? the desc seems so barebones

[tough tiger]

they need to make a series of penances purely for recon users

[somber axle]

When you shoot a target the shot explodes on impact and the explosion has a strong AoE stagger. The more targets staggered, the more stacks you get from that shot

[tough tiger]

repent for your sillyness

[somber axle]

I'd be the only one to get them tbh

Me and @last parcel since they are a Recon Mk II Gunker I think

[tough tiger]

man-emperor's funniest recon main fighting his silliest crusher packs

[last parcel]

im a recon 7 vet atm

[tall torrent]

IV: Every enemy u stagger with boltgun (shots & melee) grants +5% power for 2.5s, stacking 5 times for 25% total

U can stagger multiple enemies in 1 shot

[late hatch]

I love my reconD

[somber axle]

Recon VIIa is very good and I have really liked playing with it but Recon VId always lives in my heart rent free

[tough tiger]

7a is the slower one right?

[last parcel]

yeah the cleave one

[tough tiger]

i remember liking the slower one

[somber axle]

SEE EVERYONE??

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-david-cross-tobias-funke-there-are-dozens-of-us-dozens-gif-5426075

[last parcel]

recon users anonymous

[late hatch]

There arent that many games with good lasweapons to use. Recon is the most fun gun in the game to use imo

[tough tiger]

what about star wars games where u have nothing but lasguns to use?

[last parcel]

WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS

[somber axle]

Republic Commando is a personal fav

Never forget Sev

Vode An is such a fantastic song and surprisingly fits 40k as far as tone

Look at the Mando'a translation

[last parcel]

your ogryn seeing you use the clwon build

[somber axle]

LMFAO

Accurate

Vode An feels almost like you could put it into Darktide and it would fit in seemlessly

Just change Coruscant to Atoma

Bam

Perfect

Or change to the Emperor

That's a much better fit

[faint beacon]

The finished product btw

[tough tiger]

any tips for auric storm survivor? i got cucked at 3/5 twice

[somber axle]

You can cheese it apparently

[tough tiger]

ppl just die off one by one and i start crying

[last parcel]

quit if you're joining midgame

[somber axle]

Disconnect before you would die then reconnect and it doesn't count against your progress

If you don't wanna cheese then good luck

[tough tiger]

so if i get downed but not dead, disconnect and rejoin?

do i have to close the game or just leave current match?

[somber axle]

Idk about the specifics of down vs dead tbh since I have only seen it mentioned here

[faint beacon]

Down you can cheese

dead

[somber axle]

Another cheesier Vet could maybe answer

[faint beacon]

you're fucked

[somber axle]

Thanks Gale

[faint beacon]

I found that out on accident

lmao

[tough tiger]

ok what if i cant join back to that game?

would it reset?

[faint beacon]

Uh

No clue!

[tough tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/milly-silly-cat-silly-cat-attack-gif-5583585940249724848

[faint beacon]

Also I am very much enjoying the Graia Auto gun

[unreal bone]

is the shop reset this week?

Or next week?

[weak token]

tbh, dont get cucked

[somber axle]

Next week

Last shop reset was last week

[weak token]

or just get a legit team

by joining one of the strike teams here

[trim steppe]

no, if you just totally bail on the match and start a new one, your streak is still maintained

[tough tiger]

oh my god

i need to cheese this so damn hard

[timid otter]

I wonder how many have completed it legit.

[trim steppe]

I'd also recommend alt-f4ing if you dont immediately hit the pre-mission loadout room. Late joins dont count, and a bunch of people have lost their streaks loading into a fail screen

[tough tiger]

awww hell nahhhhhhhhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/862353927655653388/1231668406781087896/29bdax.gif

[iron marten]

should've just gone the Call of Duty route where the loss doesn't count if you joined late

[junior needle]

"very good"

[faint beacon]

How the match went with this thing

[last parcel]

i think i've met your cousin Siegbaked

[faint beacon]

I think I found a gun that me likey...

[junior needle]

"Very good"

[tough tiger]

wdym

[last parcel]

[tough tiger]

it literally BEAMED that mutant to death

[final stag]

A literal 10 second kill time

[tough tiger]

this vet build BEAMS hordes and LASERS crushers

average clickbait title

[faint beacon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/29acuCRR84me-M/d1337UwXx1AV?invite=cr-MSw0ejYsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

I did get this clip, ignore my friends in the background

[somber axle]

Ok I should preface that with "very good for a Recon" LMFAO

Surprisingly serviceable without needing the silly amount of effort I do for Recon VId

[late hatch]

If you alt f4 then the game holds your spot until you reconnect, or else the people in the game have to complete the mission with a bot

[somber axle]

Recons naturally have bad modifiers toward mutants so a grey VIIa without talents will have very poor TTK on a mutie

Very good special/elite killer outside of muties imo

And solid for clearing rooms of non-elite shooters too

[midnight totem]

Tired

[somber axle]

With talents you can improve damage toward muties but a Recon Mk VIIa will not have good Crusher kill potential vs a Clown Build Recon Mk VId

[radiant chasm]

"very good"

compared to other recons yes-yes

[midnight totem]

Just going to do the 15 run on malice, lost the streak today again on the 14th run

[radiant chasm]

idk im feeling skaven today

[somber axle]

I love the skaven

[winter grove]

Darktide has skaven symbols so

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/ratling-guns-total-war-warhammer-skaven-warhammer-total-war-gif-15796051

[tough tiger]

what if vt2 and dt swapped enemies

[radiant chasm]

DT would clear, vt2 would get pelted down from range

[midnight totem]

Well, my ogryn is named rakogri

[somber axle]

Tbh compared to not CIAG/Plasma/Revolver

I think it is probably comparable to weapons pulling up mid tier and not S tier

Recon Mk VIIa is definitely not bottom tier with Shredder Autopistol

[radiant chasm]

and brauto and infpistol and inflas and

[winter grove]

Mk2

[somber axle]

Maybe C Tier for VIIa Recon

High C

[radiant chasm]

idk i'd rank shredder>recon but both suck

[somber axle]

Maybe low B tier at best

[winter grove]

Ilasguns

Mg4 is just a better recon

[somber axle]

I'd rank them over the IV and the XII for Infantry Lasguns tbh

Mg1a is another story

[winter grove]

Nah

[somber axle]

Mg1a is A tier

[winter grove]

All ilasguns are better than recons

[somber axle]

Recon IV is only serviceable if you download an autoclicker

[winter grove]

No it isn't

[radiant chasm]

shredder has mobility

[somber axle]

If you don't it is awful to use to its true effectiveness

Speed run carpal tunnel clicking the Mk IV Lasgun through matches for a whole day without an autoclicker and your hand will hurt LMFAO

[winter grove]

I ran atrox 4

Without auto swing

[somber axle]

Isn't that an axe

[winter grove]

Yeah

A tactical axe

[winter grove]

A light attack spam prefered tactical axe

With WS

[radiant chasm]

tactical axe is the recon of melees

[somber axle]

Yeah I have done knife/chainsword with trench fighter and weapon specialist too

[winter grove]

Except atrox 4 can be good

[somber axle]

Clicking a lot really fast is fun but if you're doing it too often you are either secretly ruining your hands or you're using an autoclicker

No in-between

[tough tiger]

what makes tac axe so bad compared to com axes?

[terse idol]

For veteran specifically

Bad break points

[somber axle]

I should make a Darktide weapon tier list because how I rank guns would probably get picked apart by people here LMFAO

[terse idol]

I mean for zealot it's probably better

Like Rashad for Vet is good, if you build it

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/byee-lolol-gif-13058586

[terse idol]

Rashad for zealot is pretty alright out of the box seemingly

[midnight totem]

Tactical axes are kinda like knives

Except worse

[somber axle]

Do it

[terse idol]

Taxes are

Trying to be

[midnight totem]

In about everyway

[terse idol]

An axe and a knife

But failing in both

[last parcel]

bro's getting duck andn dive value

[somber axle]

If Wolfer's best can't hit me while I do my clown breakdancing I want to see if you can or if you give me more Stam trying

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-22302351

[frank ether]

isnt that all tier lists

[midnight totem]

Pretty much

[frank ether]

and if its just a list of parroting common opinions whats the point anyway

[somber axle]

Yeah no one will ever agree with anyone else on anything other than CIAG/Plasma/Revolver being S tier

[radiant chasm]

yes but sneaky will be especially so

[frank ether]

I don't understand tier lists

or rather, people gettting soo mad at them

[radiant chasm]

up there with some of the youtuber tier lists

[somber axle]

You'll get an inside look at what a clown's brain looks like

[woeful ibex]

Mostly Chasing Meta

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smooth-brain-silly-cute-gif-12951836389394006733

[midnight totem]

This cat is cute

I'm keeping the pic

[frank ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/889817121507393536/1124561295690182706/ezgif-4-8a3e30372f.gif

[somber axle]

You can't hurt me my brain is too small to shoot

[radiant chasm]

one terrible one i remember ranked brautos below recons

[frank ether]

aw man, I forgor I got no perms

[somber axle]

THAT'S ME

[frank ether]

thats wild though for veteran I find both rather unimpressive

like after experiencing brautos on zealot, they don't impress me on veteran

agri br is kinda ok though

[midnight totem]

I don't think any of the brautos are useful but the agrip

Or maybe that's just my bias toward the standard agrip brauto skin talking

[frank ether]

Nah agrip is the better one by a long shot

[tulip condor]

What blessings is recommended for Agripinna Revovler besides Hand Cannon

[radiant chasm]

agri is the fan one right?

crucian probably

[frank ether]

yea crit blessing of your choice

agrip really wants those crits

[tulip condor]

ya

thanks peeps

[radiant chasm]

well surgical is a nono on agri revolver

only affects first bullet of the fan

[frank ether]

I think so too but I'm scared of hearing another debate about it on this chat lmao

[radiant chasm]

who tf is gonna debate surgical on the fan'd revolver?

oh wait this is vet chat...

[bitter turtle]

surg > crucian

[radiant chasm]

on zarona? yes

[frank ether]

Ferret what have you done

[bitter turtle]

on fan revolver too

crucian sucks

objectively only has a benefit past the 3rd bullet fanned

even in the worst case scenario for agri

[faint beacon]

Feels good

[bitter turtle]

and plus, agri can still 1tap a lot of elite/specials with a crit

if you really wanted to fan anyway

just pick run n gun for the hidden modifiers or sustained fire

or trickshooter because le meme boss kill or something

[frank ether]

wait run n gun has hidden what now

[bitter turtle]

run n gun has hidden close range dmg yes

its not on the tooltip because

idk

lmoa fatshark

[faint beacon]

Correction its not on because 🖕

[frank ether]

is it enough to be worth it over crit chance though

[faint beacon]

thats why

[frank ether]

and also close damage is icky anyway

[faint beacon]

Still thats a cool thing to know about

[bitter turtle]

also

sustained fire tooltip lies too

in case you didnt know

it applies from the 2nd bullet onward

not 3rd

[bitter turtle]

its a 10% straight power boost

i think its way better than a piddling what

6% crit per lost bullet?

i know i've said this to you before but we're already starting form a 51% minimum crit chance base

that is just fucking nothing

its actually pathetic that it needs 3 bullets to start actually being better than surgical

[frank ether]

this is the wrong way to think about crit chance

[bitter turtle]

how often do you even fan 3+ bullets into something that isnt a crusher anyway

even less logical way of playing it now that survivalist is nerfed so no more infinite ammo cheat

and even if you did wanna fan, why not just go for a straight 10% or 20% power boost

[frank ether]

you're playing a horde game, things often spawn in numbers or chaff gets in the way requiring multiple shots

[bitter turtle]

sure, but we're talking about a very minor boost still for crucian

its just tiny and it only works sometimes?

if you wanted consistency then just use surgical

crucian doesnt actually make it that much more consistent

outside of trying to fish for your perfect 5 crit string trickshooter/crucian instant boss delete with exec stance in psykarium

[somber axle]

ok I did it

tier list finished

enjoy

[frank ether]

I'd rather run point blank but unfortunately it procs instantly instead of being stored like weapon specialist

[bitter turtle]

point blank would be amazing if it actually

worked

like it said it does

you know

off a melee kill

not off a fucking pistol whip kill

would be undisputably the best one for agri if it worked the way it claims

but fatshark went "lmao"

[faint beacon]

Half of my weapons choice being in B

smh

[somber axle]

sounds like you can't

B

lieve it

[faint beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tole-tole-dog-fighting-angry-gif-8953703076607841349

[soft solstice]

Best autogun gets its own tier

[faint beacon]

CIAG is the "me win" weapon

[somber axle]

only until it gets nerfed into trash tier tbh

[faint beacon]

Also im violently upset

rolled a 380 shovel

[bitter turtle]

in waht world is any autogun below shotguns

[somber axle]

btw weapons further to the left in a category are higher in that tier than weapons to the right of it

[faint beacon]

shit perks shit blessings

[bitter turtle]

@ graia iag

most stable recoil pattern, barely loses any dps versus ciag

[somber axle]

in the clown's world where Graia is boring as hell and shotguns are rad as hell

[bitter turtle]

is this a

[faint beacon]

Started using the Graia

[somber axle]

Agripina Shotgun is literally a bolt-action rifle

[bitter turtle]

"fun tierlist" or

[faint beacon]

im one who prefers reliable AR type weapons

or Burst rifles

[somber axle]

This is a Clown Tier List

I rank it based off of both effectiveness and fun

if something is effective but not fun

I rank it lower

if it is fun but not effective

it goes lower

if it is both it goes higher

[soft solstice]

I miss old vraks 3, it doesn’t hit anywhere the same

[bitter turtle]

plasma is fun? 🤔

[somber axle]

yes

[last parcel]

for a bit yeah

[somber axle]

I hate it but it's a love hate relationship

[faint beacon]

I physically cannot use the Plasma gun

[last parcel]

blasting blue hot loads on heretic faces is fun for some time

[somber axle]

I wouldn't want to spend an entire day playing it because that's boring but a match every once in a while with plasma feels good

[soft solstice]

Quick charge elite collats feel nice

[somber axle]

and tbh I have fond memories of blowing myself the fuck up doing charged shots before the current meta of "just click spam never charge"

so it gets bonus points for funny memories

[faint beacon]

1000 degree gun

[somber axle]

https://tenor.com/view/cum-wadeip200-gif-21912553

Average Charged Shot Plasma User

[soft solstice]

Also why doesn’t the revolver get two different slots if all the helbore and recons get their own slot

[somber axle]

it should but I think this is an older tier list or whoever put this tier list together just forgor the quickdraw exists

I'd put Quickdraw in high A though

Above Agripina IAG but below Agripina Shotgun

Zarona Revolver is King but Agripina Revolver is Queen

[soft solstice]

Are builds taken into account at all?

[somber axle]

the funny builds I'm vaguely aware of yes

keep in mind I threw this together in literally 2 minutes after getting home from work so the level of thought you might imagine being put into this isn't there

[soft solstice]

Since even if you run marksman focus I feel like lawbringer is too high but still rightfully below the slug one

[bitter turtle]

i figure, that's why i've refrained from mentioning the dozen other things that are baffling about it

[somber axle]

I beat Make Every Shot Count with the Lawbringer, I'm also aware that Lawbringer can do funny horde evaporation builds with Manstopper + Scattershot so it gets major funny points for me for both of those

Lawbringer is ok

Agripina Slug Shotgun is still my fav shotgun just for bolt action rifle gameplay

[radiant chasm]

don't feel like agri anymroe now that mk7HH is a proper DMR

[frank ether]

I still prefer agriag over it

[somber axle]

I don't really like any of the IAGs tbh but I can't deny how effective both the CIAG and AIAG are

and out of all three IAGs I like the Agripina most

[radiant chasm]

yea I don't care for IAGs much etiher

i'd rather use a brauto or HH

just feels better

[somber axle]

GIAG is boring imo and nothing against anyone who likes it but it just being a more stable gun that doesn't have funny bullet cleave like the AIAG or the everything that is CIAG puts it behind both

[soft solstice]

I like the CIAG a lot mostly because the other two don’t feel enough like a heavier assault rifle as I would like

[somber axle]

oh I forgor to mention but I actually find the braced autoguns really boring in general too with the only notable exception being the Agripina Braced Autogun

Agripina is probably my fav weapons developer in the 40k universe at this point

[soft solstice]

So I might as well use the one with more ammo and a fast fire rate for the amount of kick I’ll get

[faint beacon]

As a 5 minute into using the GIAG and already fan of it fan I take great offense to this!

[soft solstice]

Also being able to switch between hip fire shredding ragers and maulers to aiming and killing groups of shooters while going full auto feels nice. I just want better IAG skins

[faint beacon]

even though I bet you right now it'll feel like it serves a role the moment the CIAG gets nerfed

[somber axle]

I really, really like gimmicks and it doesn't have one LMFAO

same with melee weapons

Chainsword rev is a gimmick I love

[faint beacon]

I like them if im trying to make a Gimmick build

sometimes I want a good All-rounder

and thats usually my neutral state

hence why I instantly like this gun

[somber axle]

Graia IAG is the white bread of guns

it's fine

it's good with a build that puts some meat/flavour into it

it's bland though

[faint beacon]

To be fair I literally like every Headhunter

[grizzled pebble]

Graia has more recoil than columbus for some reason?

[faint beacon]

this includes the one that no one likes

the 2 round burst for the life of me I cant remember the name of

IX?

[somber axle]

I love the Headhunters and kinda wish I could have put the Vraks VII into S tier below Zarona Revolver now tbh

[faint beacon]

I think it is?

[somber axle]

but what's done is done

I chose what my heart felt when my brain was shut down after work

my heart knows best

[faint beacon]

My beloved tier: all of the Vraks being in there lmao

[somber axle]

Vraks III probably belongs in top of A tier if not also in S

[faint beacon]

I can click on heads

[soft solstice]

Chainsaw rev is nice when your weapon doesn’t have native penetration or the one for rending on headshot. Always feel the difference when switching to something like tact axe for crushers and stuff

[faint beacon]

I have 13 years of COD Zombies under my belt damnit!

[somber axle]

I bebop all over games tbh and my skill with shooting falls off whenever I fall into a non-shooting game

[soft solstice]

Before the big skill rework I loved the vraks 3, a single hip fire burst reliably killed a shooter and kept volley fire going forever, but it just feels weak now

[somber axle]

like V Rising or FF14 or Lethal Company

then I come back to a shooting game and am so rusty

[frank ether]

yeah it do be like that

[faint beacon]

I've only really been orbitting 3 things lately

Helldivers 2, Darktide, and Zombies

[frank ether]

I get back into it pretty fast though I can feel I'm not as sharp as I used to be

I used to play a lot of fps

[somber axle]

Valheim has a new update coming with Ashlands, V Rising has a Castlevania themed xpac coming, FF14 has a new xpac coming, I've been side-eyeing Nightingale as a fun survival builder game to play with friends, Content Warning is another game with friends I want to try in the same vein as Phasmo/Lethal Company

this year has already been SO SO GOOD for games

also yeah I play Helldivers 2 with friends sometimes

I have a friend who practically lives in that game

[faint beacon]

Okay warning for Customization mod users

if you're using the Graia

for the love of god do not do what I just did

Do not do this

Holy shit I cannot aim this

IT LOOKS COOL

[last parcel]

you don't like having a tiny reflex sight far away from your eye?

[faint beacon]

but dont fucking do it my god

[faint beacon]

I have Content warning, I just still have yet to touch it, religiously use the Laser Cannon on HD2

[somber axle]

I'm a Grenade Launcher main that sometimes uses the Spear in HD2

[last parcel]

bro got the giant laser pointer

[somber axle]

sniping Automaton bases from a mile away is always funny with the Spear

[last parcel]

i need chargers to pounce on the laser

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-lazer-pointer-cute-gif-7775618

[somber axle]

but Grenade Launcher clearing bot dropships as they fly in before any of the bots are dropped is funny

[faint beacon]

I use Quasar for bugs

[last parcel]

these bozos think they're safe

[faint beacon]

Bots fear me for my giant laser pointer

[somber axle]

I don't play bugs much tbh because I think they're boring

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/maaws-carl-gustav-rocket-launcher-gif-20157059

[faint beacon]

How I am

though Im getting cooked on bots

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-launcher-gif-18487016

[faint beacon]

been killing way too many of em

[somber axle]

Flamethrower was fun on bugs after the recent buff to it but then I got bored of spraying them with flames and went back to Malevelon Creek memes

also really funny we got a cape dedicated to the sheer shitposting storm that happened with Malevelon when it was finally taken

[somber axle]

yes exactly

but also

MECH

idc what anyone says

my friend says it's literal trash and from people I've talked to in the HD2 discord he's not alone

but

MECH

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-gif-10372193

[last parcel]

i miss the days of blowing myself up by turning too quickly when shooting

[somber axle]

honestly same LMFAO

[faint beacon]

To explain em

good but bad

die quickly but really strong

[somber axle]

yeah but I love mechs in any game

[finite hawk]

never change, Steam forums

[somber axle]

LMFAO

Recon is top tier in my heart at least

[last parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/f-irst-half-american-football-not-gonna-lie-interview-gif-17699754

[bitter turtle]

were we talking about gundam

[last parcel]

i only have this one

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/suletta-mercury-g-witch-gundam-witch-from-mercury-gif-26914141

[somber axle]

kinda I love gundam

but tbh I have very little knowledge of it

I only vaguely remember watching it on toonami

[bitter turtle]

it has lesbians now so i started caring

all you need to do to be a gundam fan is talk about how7th ms team is the best series and seed is bad and you dont get why japanese people like kira

[somber axle]

the only thing I know of with the new Gundam is that it has some sound design for some of the weapons that I love

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_-XcDpABno

[faint beacon]

Weeps

[somber axle]

I love both the sound the laser weapon makes and also the sound that the barrier makes when it clashes

[faint beacon]

Elite + Specialist even worth it to hold onto honestly

[somber axle]

numbers cat guide lists this

so elite is good at least

he underlined Carapace, Uncanny and Thrust though so those three all seem very important

[faint beacon]

Weeps

Might work?

[somber axle]

Maybe

[faint beacon]

I'll test it out real quick and see if it hits a break point

[somber axle]

idk breakpoints on shovels tbh

[last parcel]

depends on what you mean by work

if you mean one shots crushers then prob not

especially with that first target stat

[faint beacon]

Im willing

to accept one Switch mode + Light

cause thats really easy to do

Half HP on a crusher

And my normal shovel I use all the time just does shy under half...

[agile forge]

Bad first target

[faint beacon]

This games rng sometimes makes me weep

[last parcel]

sometimes

[faint beacon]

Gonna be a meth head

and use the knife for no reason

[last parcel]

bro took too much krak

[bitter turtle]

its not happening

if you mean crusher one tap

so dont even bother

just make it do other things if you wanna use it

[woven vigil]

Vetbros, are there any kind of guides for a stealth/commando/right side of skill tree build? I gave it a try at damnation last night with a rashad/revolverand didnt really have a good time. I tried to smoke clumps of shooters, ambush and dodge and slide and be mobile as often as possible, but I am probs doing something wrong because I still tend to get melted in no time.

So how do you guys play the commando in an effective way?

[bitter turtle]

stealth

run into enemies

kill them while they ignore you

stealth again when panik

run back to team

[woven vigil]

I am guessing for this you need the skill that gives you stealth 2 charges?

[bitter turtle]

personally

i feel like stealth is not worth running withou tit

i also run 3x cdr curios