veteran-class

[faint perch]

Is survivalist even worth taking now?, I’m finding it hard to. notice what it’s doing

[trim hemlock]

That’s an OK ‘volver

[tame lodge]

Yes

[trim hemlock]

If if saves you points - probably yes

[tame lodge]

Unless you really need damage

[normal spruce]

I would assume the low mobility one would be better in this case, which one do you think I should go for?

[slate hawk]

I've since changed handcannon the the other crit blessings and unarmored to flack

[trim hemlock]

I'd go with right, albeit it has a bad perk and a 'relatively' bad blessing, so upgrading it further will be a gamba

[serene bough]

idk how much reload speed actually matters as a stat

but the left one has elite damage on it already so its less likely to be bricked

[trim hemlock]

It's not super significant

[faint perch]

And if it doesn’t?

[serene bough]

i stopped using revolvers after they got buffed

[normal spruce]

There is also this, looking at the damage number is a bit depressing compared to Zarona though

[faint perch]

Should I use the damage one?

[trim hemlock]

Then you do what your heart desires

[serene bough]

overall it's still good to have as an option, you just can't rely on it alone simply to resupply your entire ammo stock

[trim hemlock]

If somebody else in the lobby already has Scav aura, I would switch to a build variation which has Fire Team or C&K

[serene bough]

it'll add up over the course of a run depending on which weapon you use but the other two auras are just as viable as options now

[trim hemlock]

If nobody has it, I will take the L and provide some spare ammo, whenever we kill something every 5s

Scavenger is an OK aura still, don't get me wrong

fragging hel, this dropped after a mission

LOVE ME RECON MK2

[serene bough]

its time to grind out aurics with your new mk2

im so happy for you

[slate hawk]

If they decide to remove scavenger I feel like they'll need to add Guaranteed ammo spots like in V2, or just give us more than 2 ammo crates

[normal spruce]

Seems perfect

[tame lodge]

You can fan it

[trim hemlock]

if only the gun was worth a kark

far from perfect it is, but it has nice modifiers

[serene bough]

I have one main build I use in which i have two variants, one with damage aura and the other with scav aura. if someone runs one I run the other

unfortunately, I can't grab speed aura without talent taxing myself to death

[normal spruce]

tbh, I don't know which weapons are meta right now, I have the VIIa one, is that the good lasgun right now?

[slate hawk]

Plasma gun

[serene bough]

Meta weapons are plasma, zarona revolver, and columnus IAG

[tame lodge]

If you're looking for meta

[trim hemlock]

Mk7 is… OK, but Recon Mk2 is the worst gun in the entire game

[serene bough]

all las guns are viable options sans recon, which requires a lot of extra build effort just to make it viable

[tame lodge]

You'll not like to know that recons are bottom tier

[normal spruce]

It was a similar case when I last played the game, worse than both other recon lasguns in almost every measure

[somber axle]

Keep it just in case Fatshark ever buffs recons!

[slate hawk]

I'm sorry I had to

lol

[woeful ginkgo]

i'm making a kantrael mg 1a infantry lasgun and was hoping for headhunter and deadly accurate
but the one i made has infernus.. should i go with infernus and headhunter or go with my original plan?

[somber axle]

The enemy gets a LOT of loads from my recon

[slate hawk]

[somber axle]

Deadly Accurate is better for sure

[trim hemlock]

I’m having an entire inventory of weapons that I might be changed sooner or later

On all 4 characters

[somber axle]

from my RECON

[slate hawk]

Lmao

[tame lodge]

Yeah that's one of the problems

[somber axle]

That's also the solution

I can finally start showing Scoreboards post match but this one was kinda eh

tried to block out names while still showing mission was only 30 min

normal pox hounds hunting grounds

I keep getting low intensity

c'mon Nurgle

put me into the GRINDER

where's my high intensity shocktrooper gauntlet to really test this out

this is not auric btw

just standard Damnation

wait am I still not running the right plugins

ANGER

I need to go find the right mods

I got like 5 Scoreboard plugings and they're all the wrong ones

[normal spruce]

I got terrifying barrage on my transcendant zarona revolver, it's over

[somber axle]

deleting until I can figure out how mods work

[austere pine]

rebreather=voice mod

rebreathers=voice mod

cloth mask=no voice mod

right?

wrong

[trim hemlock]

Well that’s a dire revelation

[woeful galleon]

A great enigma

[woeful ginkgo]

headhunter + deadly accurate mg 1a can oneshot ragers in damnation

[serene bough]

obviously red goes faster, which is why you sound clear with the red cloth and muffled with the other cloths, because your voice is moving faster

[woeful galleon]

The enigma has been solved, makes perfect sense to me.

[arctic rampart]

Is that with exec stance I'm assuming?

[balmy flume]

Did 2 more Auric runs with no deaths. Might try to grind them no (personal) death Aurics for penance…

[arctic rampart]

try random damnation and force the random queuers to hi-int. the real hard mode!

[woeful ginkgo]

without stance but with marksman's focus
not sure how often i'll have 15 stacks

[balmy flume]

TBH sometimes I do mess up my own plays in Damnation PUG, thus instead becoming that guy who ruined it (TM)
For example: not learning until today that most of the time, you un-net before killing a Trapper.

[austere pine]

red unz go fastah

[balmy flume]

Imagine if they end up coding in Red Cosmetics of any sort give a sprint speed bonus.
and it is cumulative per customisation slot

[austere pine]

just like a .25% of sprint speed boost

and its been here this entire time

[arctic rampart]

oh, middle tree? I'd think right tree and exec stance would be most interesting to people this patch. what melee & nades are you using with mk1 iag?

[austere pine]

and in the year of 2026 we find out

[balmy flume]

Lol 🤣

[atomic zephyr]

i just noticed the buff on marksman's focus, big change or no?

6s grace period seems like a long ass time

[serene bough]

its very generous and definitely more noticable

that being said, MF is somewhat niche of a keystone

[woeful ginkgo]

axe and frag grenades, should probably change to krak considering i can't kill crushers easily with this build
i just started building this one 20 minutes ago

[atomic zephyr]

ofc focus target is still easier to use

[serene bough]

i use MF for my mg4 las and it's far easier to keep 10 stacks now

[arctic rampart]

I didn't realize there was patch notes today? https://www.playdarktide.com/news/patch-1-0-22

[tame lodge]

Haven't tried yet

Probably good for my horde clear Graia IV

[woeful ibex]

Did anyone unlock the Moebian armors?

[tame lodge]

Specially because I dodge a lot

[woeful ibex]

the last tiers?

[tall torrent]

u need 4500 penance points for that and I don't think anyone has that many yet

unless they've literally been non-stop grinding since the update dropped and finished majority of the new penances

[balmy flume]

I suspect you also need penances from multiple classes to actually get there…?

Or is there actually enough to solo class to 4500?

You can at least get the helmet though (that is the one piece you get surprisingly early on in the track)

[wanton dawn]

Here ya go, went smoothly. Shame you need to dodge mid-game join not to lose time though

It is feels bad to try to get it knowing mid-game join might cost you your streak without giving you point

[tall torrent]

total points rn is 4835
u can skip 335 points worth of penances

[wanton dawn]

I did get ppl leaving in game to keep their streak though.

[unique sorrel]

lol

[balmy flume]

Ah ok thx

[tall torrent]

there're some real stinkers that u basically have to skip tho

yellow barrel explosion 1000 kills

[balmy flume]

So just in case I needy to save a no-death streak; I suppose you have to leave the game before bleeding out ?

[tall torrent]

lol nobody is getting that

[wanton dawn]

Yup

[balmy flume]

…yea that is what I mentally tagged as “background” penance. As in you really cannot deliberately farm them.

[wanton dawn]

Its lame though

[balmy flume]

Agreed, I probably won’t resort to it unless I really am just 1 off from finishing the penance. And even then, if I knew I screwed up I would probably stay.

[wanton dawn]

I am okay with lobby dodge but leaving to save it feels cheap

[woeful ibex]

@tall torrent you need to finish all penances?

or not all?

[tall torrent]

not all

[pallid jetty]

does it matter? just do penances you can do easily

like, knowing you will hardstuck at some point will stop you

[tall torrent]

I think u can get to 4500 with regular playing

the missions themselves have a ton of points associated

[woeful ibex]

alright and thanks

[tall torrent]

but class-based penances need some effort

[pallid jetty]

you get just a shit-ton of points by playing the regular game

[balmy flume]

(And patience TBH)

[pallid jetty]

greenys, skulls, conditions

books

[balmy flume]

(500 Krak armoured kills is going to take some time)

[pallid jetty]

i have 90~ rn

this is too much, yeah

and you get some pants lmao

like, congratz reject, here

https://tenor.com/view/teamwork-back-flip-wearing-pants-gif-16289206

[balmy flume]

Borderline a background penance farm, if not for the fact I happen to be a “Krak” addict and just toss one whenever I see a crusher/bulwark/full squad of Maulers.

And even then blast is quite small

[wanton dawn]

I am at 50 kills right now after... 3 games ?

[pallid jetty]

krak addict

[balmy flume]

TBF also depends on mission conditions.

[pallid jetty]

kraker

[balmy flume]

Pretty sure some conditions are far more likely to spawn armoured mobs

[wanton dawn]

The one I will have to farm are the marksman and infiltrate one cuz i never play those

[pallid jetty]

infiltrate is the easiest

[tall torrent]

MF 10 stack 2500 kills is also a bit tedious

[wanton dawn]

It is not about easy or hard. I just dont enjoy playing them

[tall torrent]

take camouflage for it and just crab walk

progress is still gonna be bad

[pallid jetty]

lmao one of the most fun i have is on infiltrate battle-commando vet with a shovel

[balmy flume]

Pls teach me the ways of the infiltrator. I play VoC now, was Ex. Stance, but I am a bit clueless on how infiltrate is supposed to function without being Zealot 2.0

[wanton dawn]

The longer one will be situational awareness

[pallid jetty]

smoke - get there - swing shovel - "WELL DONE BOSS, IM JEALOSE"

[tame lodge]

Yeah, that's why I'll be avoiding Aurics for a while

[pallid jetty]

you play less risky, thats all

[wanton dawn]

Meh, it is far less aggravating than the 15 no down penance

[pallid jetty]

is this really hard to understand how to play some playstyles?

[balmy flume]

I guess I got lucky with my two Auric PUGs earlier today…well, there was one person who left in the middle of it, but oddly it was not that detrimental and we got a replacement pretty quickly.

[tame lodge]

Yeah, but for now there's a surge of players trying to protect their streaks

[balmy flume]

Just hard for me to picture 😅. Didn’t really quite get the stealth style when it was first released.

[pallid jetty]

you use the ability to run away most of the time, not for offence like on zealot

and sometimes you can start doing damage with +30% damage after stealth, if you want to spend a point on it

[tame lodge]

Or to safely pick off gunners from a distance

[pallid jetty]

nah, smoke is enough

[wanton dawn]

ALright, am going to try some marksman focus shenanigan

[pallid jetty]

no ability

smoke is op

best grenade no cap fr fr

[tame lodge]

You don't need to tell me that

They feel a little inconsistent as of lately though

And I can't really replicate how

So I have to play more

And yadda yadda

[muted knot]

They use the April fools events to test out new stuff and yeah back then it was modern day tanks and helicopters which are now at top tier

[pallid jetty]

is this fake or real??? (real)?

[tall torrent]

huh

[serene bough]

considering we're at patch 1.3.1. it looks like bait

also

[wanton dawn]

dying immediately after getting penance is too real

[tall torrent]

yea but if u go into it, it says April 19, 2024

[serene bough]

ye i see that, but its definitely not a new patch

[tall torrent]

nvm maybe FS website being weird

[serene bough]

in those notes catfish is introducing herself as CM and she's been CM for a while

[tame lodge]

Right??!?!

[pallid jetty]

where did he even get this

[tame lodge]

It's the site being buggy

[arctic rampart]

oops lul. thanks

[tame lodge]

Any of the "news" and "updates"

[arctic rampart]

I didn't try to bait, just need coffee

[tame lodge]

Will set itself to today's date

[arctic rampart]

I was looking for news on why I had to update yesterday and that link came up first in my search

[pallid jetty]

for a second i believed that "ohhh we will get you new stuff and delay cosmetiiiics ohohhhhh"

[tame lodge]

*Not any, some will

[trim steppe]

Yeah just want to confirm for you that you can alt-f4 when youre downed and bleeding and it will maintain your streak

[trim steppe]

Yeah whoever on the FS team added this was trolling hard. 2500 barrel kills? I average about 1 per mission. It's not just that I'm ignoring a useful mechanic, barrels deal almost no damage so even doing it very intentionally you'll be lucky to get 10 kills per mission

[tall torrent]

The worst part is that this doesn’t count red barrel’s flame kills

[unique sorrel]

i think its a very funny challenge to put in a game

not because its hard but because it makes randoms that much more dangerous

[trim steppe]

I think it would be funnier to make it a penance for killing 50 teammates/yourself with barrels. It would be way easier too lmao

Barrels are the most dangerous thing in the game to players, and the least dangerous to nurglings

[wanton dawn]

I have 15

[trim steppe]

I have gotten 11 over the last 10 games

[tall torrent]

I have like 29 or smth

Close to Poxburster 100 kills

[trim steppe]

I do think if they counted red barrels and their fire, this would go 5x faster. The fire actually does damage sometimes

[tall torrent]

For sure

The yellow barrel only rly kills groaners lol

[trim steppe]

I'm pretty sure it doesnt even do enough to kill groaners at full hp when they are point blank. I think they gotta be damaged first

Or maybe it does full hp kill at point blank but not at 2m, something dumb

[trim steppe]

This one is fun and reasonable, I've gotten 79 kills on this in 10 missions without trying.

[unique sorrel]

what if yellow barrels blew away pox gas

[tall torrent]

Yea this one is pretty fun

The dodge attack stuff is harder than I thought

Mauler I think I only have 25/50

Hound I’m at 25/50 too I believe

[trim steppe]

Yeah, but it will happen naturally over the course of playing and will be done before the other ones.

[tall torrent]

Mutant charge I finished

[trim steppe]

My mauler and crusher dodges are extremely low rn cuz I extremely focused on getting my 10 no-death streak done lol

[tall torrent]

Crusher I’m at like 6/50 or smth

[trim steppe]

Same with snipers tbh, I have 3/50 lol. Usually kill them before they shoot

[tall torrent]

Flamer kill 50 before they use ability is fairly simple

[sinful jacinth]

Unless your on your own. Dead mobs don't swing for you to dodge. :p

[trim steppe]

I'm not sure about the 50 poxbursters without taking damage. I thought that pretty much all poxbursters die without player damage but I only have 12. Not sure how this one works

[sinful jacinth]

I think I'm also at 6/50 with crusher..

[tall torrent]

U have to kill it at range

Pushing it doesn’t count

[trim steppe]

ooooh you cant push? weird

[tall torrent]

Yea u have to shoot it

[trim steppe]

Lol thats... strange, but ok. thanks that'll make it easier

[marsh condor]

Just curious, is this a premium outfit?

[tall torrent]

Pants & mask, yes

Torso armor, no that’s free from penance

[marsh condor]

Oh

I'm getting it.

[trim steppe]

I'm gonna have to equip my vet with duck and dive and stripped down, and dance with some reapers

[marsh condor]

I like coats, so this is practically a wish come true.

[trim steppe]

i have 3/500 rn lol

[tall torrent]

New knife skin is very cool

[junior needle]

oink oink

Must consoom new cosmetic slop

[frank monolith]

do you have the red premium ONE

[tall torrent]

Moebian Parade?

[frank monolith]

i dont know the name since i dont have it

but a friend of mine has it

[tall torrent]

Black & red?

[frank monolith]

ye

[tall torrent]

Yea I had that one

New one looks better imo

[frank monolith]

👀

[tall torrent]

Reminds me of the dune knives lol

[tall torrent]

I don’t buy much anyways

[junior needle]

I don't think fatshark deserves more money after their performance with darktide

Or in general

[frank monolith]

i preffer the red and black one

[junior needle]

They have to be motivated somehow and unfortunately income is the only reliable lever

[tall torrent]

This one is nice too but I really like the symmetrical blade structures

[lavish solar]

Every time I see the new knife skin I somehow hear the line “a six-inch blade never loses reception” from Thatcher (rainbow 6 siege)

It’s messing with my brain I think

[sinful jacinth]

The auric not dying title.

That only "yourself" not dying right?

Not counting team.

[tame lodge]

Fookin Laser Sights

[trim steppe]

Yes. And you can alt-f4 out of a game if you're bleeding out to maintain your streak

[lavish solar]

Yeah that too xd

[sinful jacinth]

Might gonna do the maelstrom one. To many people are not ready to do auric doing auric wanting free points.

Had to do endless ressing last night in aurics.

[somber axle]

tbh I've felt that in normal Damnation too

[trim steppe]

I believe the 5 streak auric maelstrom progress also gives progress to the 5/10 auric progress one

[somber axle]

we just have a big influx of new players/returning players who are pushing hard for penances

[unique sorrel]

its really annoying to lose teammates for 3+ minutes while they reconnect in auric

[lavish solar]

So if I do 2 games of auric without dying and the go do a round of normal damnation also without dying, does that break the streak?

[unique sorrel]

esp when they weren't even going to die

no, it's paused while you do other modes, you could even die in a non-auric and its fine

[wanton dawn]

Just got 400 kills with marksman focus over 2 games

[lavish solar]

Ahhh nice

Thanks!

[wanton dawn]

So i guess it will take me around 12 games to get here

[sinful jacinth]

yeah, that one is easy.

[wanton dawn]

Well, assuming I get to eat all the ammo

[sinful jacinth]

Still halfway with the krak grenate...

I swear everything dies before my grenades go off.

[wanton dawn]

I reached 37% crit average on my columnus last game Holy Molly

[sinful jacinth]

Or I need to run so far up and leave team behind.

[balmy flume]

Right, Auric penances (if lucky enough, including deathless)…here goes nothing.

[balmy flume]

The only way to farm that is just “play normally” TBH

[sinful jacinth]

I just wanna get it over with. I don't like playing with krak.

[balmy flume]

Ah ok fair.
I am a “Krak addict” so a bit different for me.

But would have the same mentality for smoke nades.

[sinful jacinth]

Same thing with the rock for ogryn. Never play rock. Always nuke.

[lime gyro]

what r good alternative trees for las weapons now that survivalist is kaput

[midnight totem]

Las weapons need alternative trees?

[grand perch]

aw yeah

[midnight totem]

Congrats

[wanton dawn]

Hope you did not crash on down

[midnight totem]

I started seriously playing auricular yesterday, we almost had the atoma elite guard several times

[grand perch]

didnt go down once, since tryharding with plasma and voc made this kinda easy

however i did dodge the scab only mostly melee no ammo maelstrom

[wind grotto]

oh yeah what happens if you crash while going for those anyway

[midnight totem]

You fail

[grand perch]

you can crash multiple times just fine, if you are not down afaik

my friend crashed a lot and still got progress

[wind grotto]

I don't crash often tbf

[midnight totem]

That was the one with my best run actually, almost had the penance

But we got surprise gunners

[wind grotto]

so it shouldn't come up i'm more likely to just die than crash and fuck myself

[midnight totem]

And one of my teammates went down

[grand perch]

deadly mofos

[midnight totem]

Always keep one anti gunner relic handy

[faint perch]

anything yall would change?

[woeful ginkgo]

flak to carapace, but that's my personal preference

[lime gyro]

No they dont i just wana see other lasgun users trees cuz mine is basically kaput now

[terse idol]

Huh?

We have shocktrooper

Lasguns are probably least hit by the survivalist nerf bruh

[somber axle]

wdym

I'm running running Recons and Helbores just fine

I even did some Kantrael runs that went good

None of the Lasguns are dead in the water imo

[terse idol]

Honestly lasguns got better because of the survivalist nerf, because at least some other weapons have a harder time printing ammo

Revolver

[lavish solar]

Speaking of recons, how viable would a knife+recon build (aka full EDP cosplay) be

[somber axle]

entirely viable imo

sometimes I run recon and knife for fun

Damnation only

[terse idol]

Recon is mid but you can do it

[somber axle]

Auric Damnation if I'm feeling spicy

[lavish solar]

I’ve been looking into it but can’t seem to find a build that feels ‘optimized’ for me

Do you take the melee bleed talent?

[somber axle]

no

if I showed you my recon build you would see that I am playing a hyper-specific playstyle with recon that makes it funny

I just use knife without any of the melee talents while running recon because I like the Mk III knife

[lavish solar]

I’m really interested

[terse idol]

Not that I'd recommend it, butt! You can do it.
Youre giving up alot of stuff for like

Well running the recon for ranged anywhoo

[somber axle]

Ok here we go again

[terse idol]

What?

You're running a ranged build

It's like when I'm playing my mg1a lasgun

[terse idol]

And I go left side tree build

[terse idol]

Like God damnn

[terse idol]

You're even more "melee" than I am

[terse idol]

Also wait a minute

3 stam curios

[somber axle]

yes

[terse idol]

[somber axle]

allow me to explain my clownery

[terse idol]

Do you know dead shot

And crit chains

Are limited

[somber axle]

Deadshot uptime is very important for my playstyle to keep Shock Trooper crit chains going

[lavish solar]

Executioner’s Stance?

[somber axle]

Duck and Dive helps maintain stam regen during fights

[slow spade]

Stamina curios aren't that bad

[terse idol]

Crit chains are only like, minimal anyways

[slow spade]

Just don't get hit

[somber axle]

Focus Target + Target Down gives me back toughness and stam during fights

[slow spade]

😎

[terse idol]

You can't just farm crit chains

Or well

You can...

It's weird!

[slow spade]

You can with that much

[terse idol]

Me as I give up all survivability for potential crit chains for a recon

[somber axle]

yes because I am a clown
Voice of Command is immensely boring to me and despite how cool the new Cadia chestpiece with skirt looks I haven't gotten that penance just because I haven't used Voice of Command at all
Infiltrate is my personal fav ability but for my recon build I use Exe Stance

[lavish solar]

I’ve been using this with the mk13g chainsword and it works reasonably well

[somber axle]

literally yes

[lavish solar]

Not sure how good it will be with knife tho

[somber axle]

your skin is paper and your bones are made of glass

[terse idol]

Like I literally don't run wound curios

And this 3 stam

Is too much for me

[slow spade]

My only real complaints is the Recon is lacking Dum Dum and it has crit damage

Both are big sad :c

[lavish solar]

tbh I always wanted to get good with executioner’s stance but I’m big noob

[terse idol]

Wait also running crit hit damage

Sneaky you are aware

That crit hit damage

Only gives damage to the crit

[somber axle]

If you struggle with any of the following you will die immediately using my build:

1. Situational Awareness
2. Positioning
3. Melee Fundamentals (Blocking, Dodging, Shoving)

[slow spade]

It could be Hadron memeing

[somber axle]

it has no get out of jail free card

there's no VoC

no Infil

if you fall into a fight you can't handle you either find a way to win it or die forever

[terse idol]

Like you're getting what, how much damage is your 1 crit doing?

Because you might be only getting

Like 5 or 10 damage

[slow spade]

I tend to give shit rolls the benefit of the doubt these days

[somber axle]

I am aware yes LMFAO I had an awkward roll to change up and decided that was the better perk to change

[lime gyro]

Lemme see

[somber axle]

I think the other was poxwalkers

[lime gyro]

I mainly run recons anyway

[terse idol]

Okay good at least ya know

[slow spade]

My condolences

[lime gyro]

I was usin a pretty hyperspecific build

[somber axle]

it's above

[lime gyro]

Sec

[somber axle]

talents, curios and the current Recon I favour

I have like 5 Recon VIds though

[terse idol]

Oh ill also let ya kne

Damage reduction curios

Have diminishing returns

[lime gyro]

U prefer 25% carapace over flak?

I thought that wouldnt do much w lasguns

[lavish solar]

Also do you think mk3 or 6 (I think it’s 6?) would work better with vet?

[somber axle]

yeah it's just so I can take a sniper shot to the face and not take HP damage from the spillover effect

[terse idol]

You can run 2 sniper damage res but, definetly run 1 different damage res, Iike gunner res

[somber axle]

sometimes sneaky snipers position themselves behind me and get a shot off before I know they exist

[lavish solar]

Heard that mk 6 has better hoard clear but heavies feel ass to me

[terse idol]

You've already hit max diminishing returns

[lime gyro]

Mines pretty similiar just VoC instead of marksman focus

[somber axle]

either works fine tbh and it's all down to personal preference I just prefer the Mk III for easier strikedowns and because with Uncanny and +Caparace you can get a funny 3 tap kill on Crushers with it

[lime gyro]

Although ive been trying this ibfiltrator smoke grenade build w my recon lasgun nd its not bad am able to do auric dams w it

Infiltrator*

[somber axle]

oh that's Focus Target and Target Down, not Marksman's Focus

[terse idol]

The mk6 knife is a little unwiedly imo

[lavish solar]

I see, thanks

[somber axle]

I use Marksman's Focus with other builds though

[somber axle]

Mk VI knife has a much better moveset for horde clear imo

[lime gyro]

i meant tbe executioners stance class ability my bad

the*

[terse idol]

Well, kinda the cleave just sucks and it takes a whiile

Jwheeze*

I've used the mk6 knife since it released

[somber axle]

yeah and even Mk VI cleave is just good and not amazing

[terse idol]

The 3 is just bettah

[lime gyro]

i use catachan sword

Will post current build ina sec

[somber axle]

take a Chainsword XIIIg with Rampage/Wrath or Sweeping strikes and you'll cut down hordes just by spamming lights

literal W+M1 through hordes

[terse idol]

I mean

[lavish solar]

I assume blessings are along the lines of uncanny+lacerate?

[terse idol]

Just take a claw

[lavish solar]

Or maybe not lacerate

[terse idol]

Both are good though

[somber axle]

Uncanny + Riposte is my fav

I like crits

[terse idol]

And at least the claw gives you a defensive optioon

[lavish solar]

Fair

[somber axle]

there's a guide in pins that will show specific perks/blessings and stat priority for weapons if anyone is curious

very good guide

would recommend

[lucid ginkgo]

This actually work pretty well lol

[somber axle]

oh also I have a Recon with Dum Dum and I'm aware of how well it synergizes with Infernus but I prefer Headhunter for the more consistent crit stacking to keep crit strings rolling and help with ammo econ more

I was using this before I rolled my current one for memes

9 times out of 10 lately I've noticed quickplay pugs fall over when a crusher squad rolls in unless I specifically wipe them out quick so a lot of my builds are tailored around taking care of crushers specifically

[lucid ginkgo]

Is there any reason for infernus on recons? Yeah they crit often, i just don't see any profit from burning 🤔 What have i missed?

[terse idol]

Why not just change infernus to dum dum, this is better than the otherr imo

[somber axle]

I have a 1HKO Crusher build with my Helbore Mk III that's kinda boring but means I can play no-brain mode and kill everything in 1 hit

[terse idol]

If you're already crit fishing you even have enemy modifiers

[somber axle]

wdym it already has Dum Dum

do you mean change to Headhunter?

[lavish solar]

I think setting things on fire is just funny

That’s the point /j

[somber axle]

the burn from Infernus is very funny and the 12 stacks cap out fast with crit strings so it synergizes well

the extra damage is worth imo and it also makes for very cool moments where you feel the gun has stacked Infernus on a target even though you didn't finish it off

you stop firing to save ammo

2 seconds later the special/elite falls over and appears in the kill feed from the fire

there have been moments when even the briefest window of spray from my Recon lit up a hound on its way out the door

and 2 seconds later it died because it was on fire

[terse idol]

Yeah

[somber axle]

I'd rather have Infernus instead

Infernus is mandatory for me because I play for fun and lighting things on fire is fun for me

but also I think it's just more damage than Headhunter/Dum Dum would do as a blessing combo

[hearty panther]

Infernus/Dumdum is about as good as it gets strictly for damage

[pearl granite]

I think this one is bugged. we just did an auric maelstrom without anyone downed, and still not get it

[wanton dawn]

Well, I have it and several dude as well

did you join at lobby >

[pearl granite]

and the 5x auric mael without death seems to be bugged as well. do one mael twice reset it...

[pearl granite]

we have a 4ppl premade party, do it from start to end

[wanton dawn]

Well, idk

[old quail]

didn't happen for me

hell we did 2 maelstroms from MMT (so not actually on the mission board) and they both counted

[pearl granite]

no idea what's mmt 😊

but this is annoying...

[old quail]

many more tries

[pearl granite]

I finish the mission, go to the new penance place, get all the reward, still not unlocked this insignia

[old quail]

lets you play missions from up to ~24 hours ago since the IDs dont expire for a while

[pearl granite]

that sounds like some mod / trick?

[old quail]

yea

been around since a little before the auric board

[serene bough]

does the barrel penance not include red barrels?

[somber axle]

the fire damage from the barrels doesn't count toward it from what I've heard from others

only the initial explosion

[warm idol]

for some reason joining an existing game doesn't count for neither no deaths and no downs

[radiant chasm]

infernus is funny and people are DoT addicts who would rather kill an enemy sooner than just blasts it face and kill it quicker

[warm idol]

I did a game from the start with no downs then it counted

also what's the better knife?

[radiant chasm]

and on recon specifically, recon just has low damage and stacks it easily so it isn't a downgrade to use it

[warm idol]

mk3 or mk6?

[radiant chasm]

for vet? preference leaning towards mk6

mk6 can do more generalist things while mk3 is more single target

[warm idol]

also finally some good drip in store

ig ill try the mk6 then

[radiant chasm]

You got the new Higa set?

Higat the drip

[serene bough]

cringe

that must be a bug or something

[somber axle]

maybe yeah

[warm idol]

man I can't wait till they rework crafting/loot and get rid of the godawful system we have now

with the brunt slot machine into hadron rng crap

[junior needle]

Never take lacerate on a knife currently

[junior needle]

Mk3 is objectively better if your goal is to light spam, due to one if its lights just doing more damage while all of them have the same cleave values. Mk6 can get slightly better clear by heavy weaving but it's up to you if you want to put in the effort for that.

[warm idol]

what's better for general use

I get that the mk3 is better for single target but mk6 seems better for hordes cause of the heavies

[woeful ginkgo]

fuuck, the lasgun i made is really boring compared to the plasma gun

[junior needle]

As I said, your clear is only slightly better with heavy weaving on a 6 compared to light spam on a 3. You may subjectively feel safer due to hitstunning more targets

But it's considerably more effort in terms of playstyle

[warm idol]

I see

[junior needle]

I prefer the mk3 but I play knife zealot primarily

[terse idol]

If you're running deadshot like I'd just double down personally

Probably infernus is better though for your csse

[junior needle]

dumdum is better for soft targets

Infernus is better for hard targets

[warm idol]

what about blessings

uncanny and what else?

[junior needle]

Riposte, precog, mercy if you don't mind a talent tax for serrated

Riposte is the easiest and most forgiving

[somber axle]

Opening Salvo +10% crit chance on first 10% of clip
Deadshot +25% crit chance
Headhunter +5% per weak spot hit up to 5 stacks until crit
Infernus is mandatory for me and I've run Recon VId with Dum Dum/Infernus before. The damage is fantastic but I like shoot heads mini-game for better ammo econ

[warm idol]

well I got iv reposte and iv uncanny on the mk6 I just upgraded

soo

perks?

[junior needle]

Flak and something else

[warm idol]

maniac?

[somber axle]

Unyielding maybe

[junior needle]

Don't take maniac unless you regularly fight naked ragers with it

[warm idol]

unyielding it is then

[junior needle]

Flak/unarmored is generally the best for horde clear

Flak/carapace also works

[somber axle]

Get that better Burgle/Plogryn/Chaos Spawn damage (and better Bulwark kill though idk if it helps with breakpoints at all on them)

[serene bough]

personally i'd go carapace for crushers over unyielding

[junior needle]

I wouldn't rate unyielding that high compared to alternatives

[warm idol]

damn now im torn between carap and unarmored

[serene bough]

flak + cara is my personal preference

[junior needle]

Both are fine, I find the knife struggles more with clear than crusher killing

[somber axle]

is the Mk VI good for Crusher kill potential? the wide swings make it trickier to land heads and the anti-armour combo is push-attack into heavy 2 and heavy 3 yeah? heavy 3 is a strikedown but heavy 2 is the side swipe

[serene bough]

horde clear is weak on knife anyways and i'd rather have shredders help me if im getting overwhelmed

[somber axle]

plus idk how many hits it needs for a kill

[serene bough]

best single target is just push atk spam

[somber axle]

I know with Uncanny and +Caparace on the Mk III using Desperado you can get a 3 tap on Crusher heads

[junior needle]

Yeah just push attack spam for it

[serene bough]

you can weave in a combo but drainign stam to spam push attack is the simplest way

[somber axle]

that makes more sense

I was just remembering the guide in pins talking about anti-armour combo being Push Attack - > Heavy 2 -> Heavy 3

but it is an older version of the guide numbers cat wrote

[tall torrent]

still 3 hits crushers

I'm not a fan of punch on knife

[somber axle]

triple push attack crusher slap time

[tall torrent]

u can just heavy spam with push atk mixed in

[serene bough]

personally the only combo I worry about for mk6 is H1 H2 L3 L4 for horde clear, if not just light attack spam

[tall torrent]

it's very respectable dps for crushers

[somber axle]

yeah and the new drop knife skin looks really nice

[serene bough]

otherwise i just push attack spam w/ the special action punch for when im out of stamina

[somber axle]

does the punch do anything other than be funny

like is it just a tiny bit of stagger if it hits stagger threshold on target?

[serene bough]

the attack after the punch is very similar to a heavy single target hit

you can stagger ragers i think

[somber axle]

does the punch work with serrated blade to make enemies bleed?

punch rager in face

give them a bloody nose

[serene bough]

if i remember correctly uncanny stacks let you stagger better, but i never tried that w/ serrated blade bc i dont run mercy killer

[frank monolith]

not bug

[frank monolith]

go mk 6

[tall torrent]

was patched

rending incorrectly buffed stagger before

[hollow turtle]

I want to get that armor set for using smoke grenades on 2000 enemies, but I guess I gotta ask, how do people normally use smoke?

[tall torrent]

drop it on ur team same way you'd use psyker's dome

it's a defense utility for safer melee

[serene bough]

depends, the most common scenarios are you throw at enemies to disorient them or throw at yourself to act as cover for you and your team

[warm idol]

like others said its sort of like a mobile cover

[serene bough]

if you're just trying to farm the penance, throw smoke everywhere

[warm idol]

I dunno if they made it better

[hollow turtle]

Okay. When it first came out, I always just threw it at the shooters.

[warm idol]

but when I used to use it

it felt very inconsistent

also can anyone throw me an infiltrate build? I wanna do it for the armor after im done with the voc penance

I never used it lol

[hollow turtle]

Shoot. i wish i was at home to toss you mine

[serene bough]

depends what you wanna use infiltrate for, i use it for threat reduction for ranged counterfire predominantly

[frank monolith]

has better wave clear (heavy >push attack and repeat) and the same dps with mk3 might be more if you consider your enemy as a chaos spawn it can have a higher dps if aimed correctly, since its aimed at where you place your crosshair, while mk3 has an over head animation and it might not hit the head directly and hit the hunch on its back. #veteran-class message

[warm idol]

melee ig

since for me infiltrate feels very much like a melee based thing

considering the mobility

[serene bough]

unfortunately i dont have a melee focused infil build

[hollow turtle]

I used infiltrate for if I found myself in a bad situation, needed to reposition, or had to go retrieve the downed teammate.

[serene bough]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b6a195f-4891-4c49-8aff-6dee24bb5d50/mg4-knife this is my preferred loadout regardless

whichever build you use, its good to know underhanding grenades doesn't break stealth, except for kraks since the initial stick counts as a hit

[hollow turtle]

Huh.. Good to know.

[lavish solar]

Okay

Because it procs on non-weakspot hits and always trying to hit the weakspot is better right?

[hollow turtle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a638cf1-0e1e-4d77-ad8a-17c7c79b19b6/hvt-hunter Had to update the talents, but this was my infiltrator sniper build a while back. Meant for killing elites and ogryns. Could swap the krak grenade to smoke, but might compromise how effective it is.

[carmine bronze]

Telling you I love revolvers in this game xd

Sure ammo can be a problem but they hit the target hard

[frank ether]

I love agri but really wish they rework braced weapons a bit

[digital mango]

My game is now having serious server lag

[carmine bronze]

Yeah last night dced 4 time

[frank ether]

when does it not really

I died to a ghost parry yesterday

[digital mango]

Before the update I was fine

[carmine bronze]

Idk maybe it’s a bug

All I can say is the update been fun really loving the Fox modifier

Tox*

[frank ether]

I'd try support

[junior needle]

More or less yes. Knives do dinky damage on bodyshots and about 2.7x more on weakspot hits.

[frank ether]

I could help with like game performance issues but for server lag its kinda out of our hands

[carmine bronze]

This why I use shovel

Good hit surface

Great for waves

[hollow turtle]

I'm staying in standard Heresy for now until I get back into the groove and remember all my keybinds. I'm all rusty.

[random cedar]

Still love my bleed knife. Stacking 13 stacks of bleed on a single hit is crazy

Crit hit

[carmine bronze]

Once you get the rhythm it should be simple enough

[junior needle]

Flesh tearer is fine, if less effective on vet

Provided you supplement it with uncanny

It's only 8 stacks max though

[hollow turtle]

Lel

[carmine bronze]

Nice

[tame lodge]

[random cedar]

Wish my stats were like that.

[carmine bronze]

So a fellow stealth vet ?

[junior needle]

Those are fixable

[hollow turtle]

Lol yes and no. It just became my go to for mobility and chaff killing.

[junior needle]

Just take off lacerate, dear god

[random cedar]

These knives are platelet annihilaters

[frank monolith]

i know a dude that can out dps vet with plasma gun with lacarate, but ye should be flesh tearer

[random cedar]

Got to be real, I have a theme going here. I kinda don't even want to change it

[junior needle]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that has absolutely nothing to do with having lacerate on it

[agile forge]

Lacerate is dogshit lmao

[frank monolith]

sorry for the re msg just need to censor his name

[junior needle]

Uncanny strike also affects dots btw

[agile forge]

You lose so much damage not hitting weakspots

On a knife in particular

[random cedar]

Big if true (it's 100% true)

[frank monolith]

it does

[junior needle]

It is indeed 100% true

[agile forge]

For less bleeds than you get from gritting with the other blessing anyway

[frank monolith]

i use it on my knife zealot and vet

[agile forge]

Yeah, uncanny non fucking negotiable.

[random cedar]

Too bad I can't get tier 4 uncanny strike to save my life.

but any will do

[agile forge]

Use tier 1 if it's all you got

[frank monolith]

btw thats what he uses, but he gets out dps by me zealot with flesh tearer.

[agile forge]

It's just really good

[frank monolith]

power ui just displays my xbox name

[agile forge]

People who have good mechanical skill can do great with grey gear

[random cedar]

God, but I kinda just like lacerate. I just love touching shit and it dying. I LOVE BLOOD

[hollow turtle]

My build is range heavy so if I'm ever using my knife, it's just for chaff killing that are close. Then I just infiltrate again when elites or heavies are getting close so I can switch back to gun.

[junior needle]

Lacerate slows down your chaffe clear

[hollow turtle]

Sure I could use power sword, but I'm using knife for getting away.

[agile forge]

Slash at heads lmao

Whatever anyway

[junior needle]

It's one of the few blessings where the activation actually gimps you

Needs a redesign

Extreme noobtrap blessing

[random cedar]

whatever man. I like it.

[junior needle]

If you really want to just clear chaffe you'll want a different weapon

[lavish solar]

By chaff clear do we mean “small random groups of walkers” or does entire hoards of them also count

Just curious

[hollow turtle]

small random groups. Like 2-4.

[lavish solar]

I see

[hollow turtle]

The ones that spawn in the doors behind you usually.

[frank monolith]

just push attack in that case will prob one shot em

[junior needle]

I think you like the idea of it more than its actual impact on your performance

[lavish solar]

So what happens when a hoard hits?

[random cedar]

And that's fine by me

[hollow turtle]

Since I'm sniping with helbore I'm usually behind the team so there's the occassional pox or infected that comes from behind me.

[random cedar]

kills damn near everything no problem

[lavish solar]

Are knives able to handle those reasonably well? (On vet in particular)

[agile forge]

It's one of the worst for it

Mark 6 is a bit better

[hollow turtle]

When horde, I'm still shooting the elites/heavies that are approaching team.

[agile forge]

Bayonet them

[lavish solar]

Well shit

[hollow turtle]

Lol that's always fun.

[agile forge]

It's still workable though tbh

[frank monolith]

when horde hits heavy>push attack repeat while dashing

[lavish solar]

Thanks though, now I need to git gud

[random cedar]

Chaffe don't seem to be a problem either. 2 hits does anything weaker in.

if not just a single hit when I crit. Doesn't matter where I hit them

[junior needle]

It shouldn't be, it's actually a detriment

[random cedar]

THat's what I said. yes

[junior needle]

[agile forge]

Low target cap iirc

[lavish solar]

Push attack on mk3 is a vertical strike down I think, wouldn’t that move hit only 1 or 2?

[hollow turtle]

I do have this knife, but I'm not looking to get into a fight with a crusher. Defeats my build's purpose.

[frank monolith]

sorry i thought you were using mk 6

but for 3 just spam push attack

[agile forge]

I like to go with a shovel 7 to back my helbore 2 up. It can oneshot Crushers which are my main weakspot

[lavish solar]

mk6 also works, I just have much less experience with it

[unique sorrel]

if you push you may as well push attack since it comes out so fasta

[balmy flume]

…I think I have genuinely forgotten how nuts Auric Malestorm can get.

[frank monolith]

do this heavy push attack on repeat on hordes

when killing crusher spam push attacks

[agile forge]

And keeps me safer when I'm fighting too wide to use a bayonet, I can just heavy spam

[frank monolith]

when out of stam push attack>special attack>heavy repeat

[lavish solar]

Got it, thanks!

[agile forge]

Shovel 7 is an absolute joy to use

[frank monolith]

but usually when uncanny is fully stacked, you need like 2 crits and you can move on to the next crusher

[agile forge]

The guide guy rates it as highly as a Power Sword 6, higher than PS3, and I totally agree

Thing is fucking nuts

[warm idol]

honestly with shout it feels easier than normal auric lol

cause of all the elites

plus 20%cd reduction when its there

ive had a round with another voc vet and 2 ogryns lol

[junior needle]

auric maelstrom can be easier than histg, yeah

Depends on the modifiers

[balmy flume]

Yea, probably just me been in a round which randomly upgrades mooks to weak bosses

[warm idol]

hunting grounds and mutant waves

and 20cd

[agile forge]

Fucking love monstrous specialists

[frank monolith]

ih and if you need to get back to your team but theres a horde infront of you spam push attack while moving towards your teamates, just becareful of ragers in the way or your cooked

[lavish solar]

Got it

Thanks =)

[junior needle]

What weapon are you talking about?

[frank monolith]

knife mk6

[serene bough]

lacerate is garbo

[frank monolith]

i guess make sure your running 3x3 stamina curious with block effc+stam regen

[serene bough]

i like flesh tearer or riposte personally with uncanny strikes

i'd use precog if it didnt last 2 seconds

[unique sorrel]

this games a lot harder now that teammates die for good in auric

[random cedar]

That's a thing?

[unique sorrel]

seems like it

theyll die or down once and disappear never to be seen again

[random cedar]

That doesn't sound right. At least I haven't noticed it.

or, maybe games have either been total wipes or no one dies. I haven't been paying attention

[unique sorrel]

if youre being serious im just referring to that now people have an incentive to quit out midgame in auric and maelstrom

its pretty annoying and they do it so aggressively, when theyre still recoveraable

[random cedar]

Im being serious. I haven't noticed

[hearty panther]

imagine cheesing your way through a penance and then acting proud about your videogame achievement

couldnt be me (ive never achieved anything)

[random cedar]

I'm not seeing anything in the patch notes about no one respawning

[frank basin]

Casual gamer like cheesing than grinding long way

Me

[random cedar]

I'm actually not sure. I might be getting gaslit.

But I also know people tend to just quit out a lot recently.

[serene bough]

lols

[tiny summit]

He's just saying in his games he's having more people quit and now there's a penance to grind for

[tiny summit]

Before his knees hit the floor

[random cedar]

Oh yeah.

[unique sorrel]

just humorously referring to the new incentive to ragequit as if it were a gameplay change

[random cedar]

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense

[serene bough]

i miss when this server had a meme channel

[random cedar]

hold up, new incentive?

[serene bough]

so much potential now missed

[random cedar]

Is that why? What is it?

[tiny summit]

Penance

[unique sorrel]

gold penance title

no deaths in maelstrom, but the fail state is dodgeable, and people using that dodge wind up screwing up games by using it, or doing it wrong and just abandoning

[serene bough]

still one of my favorites

[random cedar]

Oh throne, you're right. The Auric Storm Survivor

[unique sorrel]

had a lobby that would have been a tough push through a week ago, but now that people are trying to avoid deaths at all costs, i wound up with 3 bots halfway through

[random cedar]

And that makes maelstroms slower to go through too sometimes with people being too careful to push

Which makes them even more dangerous because you really don't want to be too slow on certain condition combos

[atomic zephyr]

is it just me or are damnation missions tougher?

i might actually cave in and break out my plasma gun

[random cedar]

I only noticed maybe somewhat with everyone probably being a bit rusty getting back into the game.

[atomic zephyr]

yeah thats likely a factor, i stopped playing for a month or two before this

[novel stone]

Not for me, maybe ots because I always use plasma as of late, maybe the gun You're using got a nerf?

[atomic zephyr]

people forget the kant x laspistol even exists i dont think it got nerfed

besides that rof slowdown in aiming a few montsh ago

but that was a bugfix

[tall torrent]

They fixed some spawns

[novel stone]

I like the new pfp @tall torrent

[tall torrent]

Me after falling off this parkour 12 times

[junior needle]

Not sure about the knife push attack for hordes, on mk6 its a narrow stab

It does have the heavy attack cleave profile at 6.5 but uh, not quite the horizontal goodness you want for clearing

[unreal bone]

This any good?

Melk has it rn

[late hatch]

Its alright

[midnight totem]

My horde clear with the six is, push stab into heavy, light into heavy, keep light into heavy odds push stab as needed

[wanton dawn]

having a bit too much fun with this crap on ciag right now

I call it "overcommitment"

[junior needle]

I'm quite curious why the push attack would be a core part of a 6 knife horde clear rotation

Does it one tap bruisers

[frank monolith]

it gives you your sweep atk back

its heavy + push attack repeat

2 inputs, not just spamming push attack

[junior needle]

So instead of using a light?

[frank monolith]

ok

do one heavy

thebn

block

push

attack

and heavy

[junior needle]

I'm aware of how to do what you're saying

I'm saying the point of the push is to use it instead of a light for weaving heavies

Or rather asking

[frank monolith]

i dont get what your saying

[midnight totem]

He's asking about the attack pattern rather then why the attack pattern

[junior needle]

Instead of using a light to avoid the not horizontal heavy

You're using a push attack presumably

That's what I'm asking

[winter grove]

I prefer doing like

[faint perch]

what is ranged Finnese power?

[frank monolith]

its to stop the trash mobs from doing their attacks

[winter grove]

H1>H2>L1>L2 repeat

[junior needle]

crit/weakspot damage

[tall torrent]

Weakspot & crit dmg on ranged attacks

[midnight totem]

And the answer is yes

[frank monolith]

hence you can get a free heavy off relatively safe

but that wont work with greened buffed nurgle enemies

[midnight totem]

You can use the light or another push stab to avoid the non horizontal heavy

[junior needle]

A narrow stab attack is not exactly the best way to hitstun multiple chaffe

[winter grove]

You know what will?

[midnight totem]

Which ever is your preference, or as situation dictates

[winter grove]

A tactical axe on melee build, that's what

[frank monolith]

i use that and it works for me, if you using heavy heavy light heavy heavy works for you then use that

[midnight totem]

Anyway, it works great with haymaker

Pushstab counts as a heavy

[neat stratus]

Are there any mods that optimize the game a bit more?

[junior needle]

Uh huh, just curious about the reasoning behind it

[winter grove]

Isn't there a mod that turns your game into a potato?

[frank monolith]

well if you really want to know i find it easier to that instead of the light one

and works pretty effectively

[midnight totem]

I've once pushstabbed a rager horde with the six and nuked 3 of them

Lucky

[neat stratus]

You know what there's gotta be a GPU limit on this game right?

[faint perch]

whats better for damage, focus target or Marksmen;s Focus?

[junior needle]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1361210/discussions/0/4040357419300735361/

[junior needle]

Focus target is better generally speaking, for both ease of use and general damage effectiveness

You can also bind it to left click

[neat stratus]

Thanks a ton, really need a mod like that

[winter grove]

Finally my old man 1050ti will have better time in game

[junior needle]

Crit/weakspot damage is also worse than it appears

And can be worse or better than average depending on the weapon

[tall torrent]

Is this still working

Cuz my UI ghosting disappeared after the most recent patch

[junior needle]

Not sure, I heard about that and some strangeness occurring

Try it with and without the mod

[frank monolith]

i get this but some mobs will still do their attacks and it can break you out of your swing, thats why i do hjeavy push attack repeat just easier in my opinion

[neat stratus]

I use an AMD card tho, would this work on it?

[junior needle]

The ghosting stopped for people who actually use the dlss3 on 4000 cards

So I assume it'll still be working even if that's not showing

[junior needle]

no clue

[neat stratus]

Welp, hope I dont nuke myself

Universal would probably be better since it bypasses the architecture checks

[junior needle]

It might given that's actually amd technology

[tall torrent]

I tried re-dragging the 2 files into it and the UI ghosting is still not there

[junior needle]

fsr3 to be precise

[junior needle]

see #veteran-class message

[tall torrent]

I’m on 3060

[winter grove]

I don't play with the knife anymore, found a good alternative for the stealth build

[junior needle]

Mhm, as in the ghosting seems to have been fixed for the actual dlss3, likely for alternatives as well

You'll have to judge by your fps

[frank monolith]

the same but it has ti at the end

[winter grove]

Is ghosting fixed on 1050ti?

[tall torrent]

My fps is alright? I’m mostly capped at low fps tho for GPU temp

[junior needle]

I get about 80+ fps in the mourningstar with it on vs with it off

You'll notice it working if you have an fps monitor

[sleek garden]

Depends on what you go for, I lean really hard into specialist/shooter removal so I use Marksman's focus (bonus crit/headshot damage/reload speed)
Focus target is good for applying a lot of damage to someone fast but I feel like it makes the most difference on tougher guys like crushers/maulers/bosses etc

[tall torrent]

I’m on laptop

GPU temp is higher in mourningstar vs in missions somehow

[junior needle]

steam has a built in fps monitor

[sleek garden]

I need to figure out my cooling issue

[proven plaza]

gift from the emperor, worth doing anything with?

[junior needle]

You can check it with that

[tall torrent]

And I capped mine to pretty low

I think at 77 rn

[sleek garden]

no

just kidding I don't know

[junior needle]

first target is an important stat

so no

[proven plaza]

this is why we dont have nice things

[sleek garden]

Your lights are gonna be weak when you're whacking a mauler nonstop

Wait that's a flip shovel

Your damage multiplier on the overhead will be weak

[proven plaza]

yeah

im not fond of the shovels so i had to ask ive never made one

[sleek garden]

the flip shovels do some enormous damage on their specially overheads but my favorite is the munitorum

Which isn't flippy

it has good defense and good damage and mine can knock a mauler to the ground if you poke attack+heavy

the push attack is the best strike down though it's an overhead that pierces armor

poke attack staggers muties+ragers+crushers etc

love it

The new shovels are good

I just can't use it though I can't take their first lights seriously

It's these ridiculous little slaps with the shovel

[terse idol]

Just takes too dang long to kill em

[junior needle]

Should also make sure you put it in the right folder

[sleek garden]

overhead does like 500 damage to them

Wym

[tall torrent]

yea, binaries
the frame gen function is in settings

[terse idol]

Oh no the normal shovel

[sleek garden]

Uh dreg ragers I mean

[tall torrent]

it's just that when I turn it on, there's no UI ghosting

[sleek garden]

push overhead*

[terse idol]

The not flip

Oh?

I gotta test dis

[tall torrent]

and I'm not on 40 series GPU

[sleek garden]

push attack overhead on the default shovel is high strike down

Moderate armor pierce not a lot but at least mine one shots bruisers of both kinds

[junior needle]

I tried to say so before but, other people reported that being gone altogether

So the ghosting issue should be resolved entirely

[tall torrent]

Hm ok thx

[winter grove]

God I love atrox 4 actually
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1230677719692607488/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.04.19_-_11.33.07.02.mp4?ex=663430f1&is=6621bbf1&hm=5a70e53b94e18038f30aeac6dc4c521e18d3df980722d0b081271f243f195a9d&

[junior needle]

It's ok

Not as good single target as knife but better chaffe clear

Not as good as chainsword though

[winter grove]

Chaffe?

[junior needle]

groaners, poxwalkers, bruisers

[winter grove]

Ah

Horde clear

[junior needle]

Yes

With headtaker you can get to the 2 scab bruiser threshold

Knife can't really do this because its only power blessing is kinda bad

[winter grove]

I knew taking atrox over knife was a good idea

[proven plaza]

i had a bleeder knife that worked well but you had to hit and run

[winter grove]

(I didn't)

[junior needle]

Generally speaking taxes aren't in a good spot

The 4 in particular has an actual niche

[winter grove]

Yeah, that's why I thought using one

Wanted to prove myself that taxes are bad

[proven plaza]

i love my heavy axe

[junior needle]

But it's not as well regarded as either chainsword or knife which specialize more

[proven plaza]

satisfying

[winter grove]

Wb chainaxes?

[midnight mortar]

It's just like those memes of a knife vet having a life or death dance against 10 bruisers thinking he's a master of the game as the camera zooms out and shows the rest of his squad holding back the actual horde.

[proven plaza]

i just dont like listening to a chainsaw for that long of a game

[winter grove]

I had a game where 3 people (including me) had chainaxes

You'd go insane I swear

[proven plaza]

i gopt one for almost free on my zealot it works well not a bad weapon but rrrrrrrrr

[winter grove]

Mine can oneshot crushers and maulers

I love it

[proven plaza]

my eviscerator does that too and still the chansaw noise

[winter grove]

Different chainsaw flavour

[proven plaza]

same chansaw sound

the axe revs on light hits too though

so its unending

i have all 4 classes for the melk money but i really cant get into ogryn

[winter grove]

I thought of using chainsword instead of chainaxe on my mg4

But I thought I needed an anti-elite tool

Straight up elite delete tool

Considering that mg4 damage is... Tolerable

[proven plaza]

i made my eviscerator XV specifically to do karnac twins on damnation in quickplay so id like to work on another but its pretty good as is

works better on flak than elites though'

[winter grove]

I have evi 15 on my zealot too

Really good

Really fun

Crit evi fucks everything up

[proven plaza]

they were ignoring the massive amounts of poxwalkers and stuff pouring in chassing the twin around sop i made it to cut down those adds

so it would be better for regular stuff if i made another

but i just blew a ton getting not a stfdf from hadron

ended up with nothing lol

[lost portal]

I finally gave in and have started messing with the custom weapons mod. I'm still not going to mess with the optics on the weapons but HOLY SHIT this looks cool.

[tall torrent]

Knife

[winter grove]

Well duh obviously

But I thought chainaxe mk12 does it better

[tall torrent]

Not really? Maybe vs ragers but they’re far less problematic after this patch

[mellow dome]

any suggestions on which of these guns is best

thinking about learning some of the blessings to make a best gun out of them but idk what to do

[bitter turtle]

middlw

juts swap out the blessings

[mellow dome]

like I know you want IV dumdum but is infernus basically trash

[tall torrent]

Harvest dum dum 4 from right one

[bitter turtle]

Ghost IV, Dumdum IV

[tall torrent]

For mk10 Laspistol, yes

[midnight mortar]

Middle one for sure.

[mellow dome]

and replace speedload?

[tall torrent]

Mk10 is a 1-2 tap breakpoint focused weapon

[tall torrent]

Both blessings

Dum dum + ghost

[mellow dome]

level 3 ghost is fine right

is the difference in finding a level 4 blessing worht the bother

[bitter turtle]

ghost is actually osmething i would want at IV but III is usable and fine yeah

[tribal tangle]

best heavy sword blessings?

[tall torrent]

Deathblow + headtaker

[junior needle]

Deathblow on the 9 specifically

The others prefer headtaker/rampage last I checked

[tribal tangle]

best perks? i assume not flak or carapace since its terrible against armor

[winter grove]

Flakiac

[junior needle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GBkqp8riLAVbdL0qiIR0ATrFYvAEcxLJoiqvPYfZbhQ/edit#gid=1428201414