#veteran-class
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If the colour is green looking I might even don that with the Scion helm
Bein’ a loyalist whilst looking every part the bad guy XD
And it’s earnable! Time to enjoy some Damnation grind XD
What kinds of penances do you think they'll add
I hope it isn't something like "last one standing" type things
Be the only reject alive for 5 minutes on a Damnation mission
People will throw purposely to attempt it if they do
YESSSS
"Requisition"
It happens a lot with teams I play with that'll be cake
If you need ammo use it
Only person you don't have to worry about usually is the psyker
When it comes to ammo
unless it’s me
the recon psyker
I forgor
Usually I ping ammo and tell people if I found an ammo pack somewhere if I notice someone on yellow or orange ammo
Most of the time people don't even notice
I did point out ammo for a plasma vet on yellow ammo who stood next to the ammo tin and began pinging it over and over to make me pick it up instead LMFAO
and then they have the gall to spam I NEED AMMO one minute later
The only people I fear with ammo are Gunlugger Ogryns who play like a baby Vet. No melee, only gun
3 Gunlugger Ogryns in a squad is my nightmare
Shield ogryn and I still lose.
They will block every sight line, consume every ammo tin and pack
This is why I use bully club and kickback
Patch when
patch your mouth with my nuts lmao
I’ve resorted to calling them T’augryn
yo havent played since the vet stuff happened. did they ever go back and buff/ fix shit?

maybe check tomorrow when the patch gets released
^
Wait what Vet stuff happened
prob referring to the talent tree stuff
woah new drip?
coming tomorrow
It’s peak

Oh yah tuesdaay
All 4 Moebian 6th armors are peak

Ogryn no clear look rn but I’m afraid all of them are peak
I'll fuck with these
Carapace armor for rejects real?
He got dem cyberpunk shades
Pretty sure these are still flak Armor
But I dig how they look
I’ve been wanting actual full body Armor for veteran for months and we finally get unique full body Armor
Looks kinda rough for the flak
The veteran torso plate is very similar to scab gunner vest
Zealot & psyker also get flak Armor
I’m wondering how the Moebian 6th armor is gonna pair with scion helm in terms of looks
Funny how 6th uses accurate krieg gas masks while we don't
Except for the green eyes
Moebian 6th Armor just seems entirely grey/blue rn
Uh
I mean the krieg masks we got
are accurate
They are literally approved by GW
It honestly shows the stark contrast between standard krieg troopers
Ah
Yeah it's the whole
Me dumb
Surplus nature of it
Naw naw
It's not known
It's jsut another like visual take on the whole military scarcity issue
Like in ww2, many uniforms were repurposed from dead troops, sewn up and given to new recruits
Krieg can't exactly supply the greatest looking things to everyone, they just gotta use what they got
(Maybe I'm coping but I like the contrast between the two helmets we get)
Honestly darktide krieg gas masks look like soviet GP-5s
Cutthroat is 3/10 imo
I like that look
Just without filters
However cutthroat with scion helm is 8/10
Or well we got the 2nd helmet style too
More of a loose cannon fan myself
Cutthroat with scion helm however actually goes unbelievably hard
Armageddon outfit tho 🔥
I don't have scion helmet sadly
His whiny voicelines come off more as rageful and less like whining
I just want them to fix the helmet smh smh
But god damn it goes hard
Ah, I love it when people go "Woah that thing outfit is old as hell"
I'm just glad they're finally letting us change our character much more thoroughly.
What do they need fixed?
Have the visor extend slightly further down, that's basically it.
Looks more menacing.
valiid
The vet gas mask still goes unbelievably hard
I forgot what's it's called
The one on cover art
I ALSO SAW THEY'RE ADDING THE FUCKING COVER ART ARMOUR
It's not available in game yet sadly
GOD BLESS
YES
GOD BLESS
Something along the lines of "Reject armour present in promotional material."
I want the goggles so bad
WE CAN FINALLY BE THE POSTER BOYS, LADS
I even probably have perfect build to put full poster art outfit on
I've been running build with mk12 chainaxe and mg4 with almost unlimited ammo
So I just hold down LMB with full auto mod
I'm using Chainsword 12 with MG Ia
I also use knife mk3 and mg Ia on different build
No longer will we sit with the SHIT that is that stupid fucking mock helmet trying to be this.
Which is more headshotting oriented
Darktide Vet in the cover outfit gives Resident Evil Hunk vibes
And Hunk is fucking cool
I just want them to add bolter pistols to make the Commissar dream come true.
It's coming 16th of April right?
POWER SWORD, BOLTER PISTOL
Tomorrow
FIGHT OR ANSWER TO ME
Same here.
try being swedish next time
Yeah so whenever it is the 16th in Fatshark land
We just wait for the Americans to get updated y'know.
Typical Yankees.
Behind on everything.
Gonna swap all my curios to sprint efficiency so I can keep up with you brb

It's no use, I will go KNIFE ZEALOT
I jest, I have no Zealot character. Yet.
I've only played Psyker and Vet.
I spectated a Zealot in melee and I was fucking awestruck at the chainsword melee speed.
My whole grind for gas mask helmet was futile because they're adding poster boy helmet tmr 💔
Not Evic, normal ones.
Yeah the normal chainsword goes FAST
I WANT THEM TO ADD THE KRIEG OUTFIT BACK I DIDN'T GET IT
LET IT GO INTO ROTATION DAMNIT
They'll probably make that a prerequisite to earning the proper gas mask helmet tbh
AND GIVE ME MY ARMAGEDDON HELMET, I DON'T WANT THIS POT HELM
I wonder how many new rewards I can claim right off the bat tmr
With my 2260 penance points
So true.
Wonder if we're getting any storm trooper armor
I have a feeling that the Moebian 6th & cover art armor sets will be from penances tho, instead of the progression track
Thinking not since they're carapace(?)
I'm pretty sure a Scion backpack was datamined at some point.
Clicking to me right now how much we'll probably fly through getting out of the new Penaces, and all the stupid things we can just instantly get cause of it
I want Scion armour to go with that helmet, ugh.
Likely.
I just want them to put either the krieg outfit or armegeddon helmet into rotation in the shop so I can fix my Steel Legion outfit.
The pot helm is great and all but it's not the THING
Scab Shooter watching a Moebian 6th guardsman running at him full speed
What was the blessing that gives you movement speed for sp attack on chainswords
Battle hardened Moebian 6th lasman when they see a dude wearing scion helm dash towards him with a knife:
Coming for that ass with Rev Up 4
However
Loyalist Moebian 6th armor means
You’ll prob get accidentally shot by ur teammates

As if friendly fire was a thing
...You know they could add it
"We added friendly fire along with the armour that makes you look like enemy shooters, enjoy!"
Force of Habit you know
Does ogryns get moebian 6th armor too?
Yes
Right
But no clear look in the trailer
It’s full body Armor tho
Moebian 6th armor is just full body armor in grey/blue
Sorry for shooting, couldn't tell you apart from the enemy
Veteran to Ogryn conversation
Are poster cosmetics confirmed in trailer?
Official Steam announcement.
It’s been confirmed in their blogs
I didn't read them
LET'S FUCKING GO
I did have some theory why we weren't getting the poster art cosmetics
As in they're THE rejects
This is definitely a fanservice update. That poster armour and character changer were huge gripes I kept seeing be thrown around.
Now WE'RE the real deal, BITCH
Their armor got 73-7 written while everyone else gets 7-7
Finally able to walk around as Jilande
Yk there’re actually 2 sets of poster art cosmetics right
For each class
True!
What
Ohhh right
So basically zealot finally gets good head cosmetics that aren't eyepatches
Zealot book backpack is coming
When I played zealot the only head cosmetic I actually use is eye patch or the eyepatch and blue hood
The others are... You know
Black hood and eye patch is good too I just didn't unlock it
They are inspired by Redemptionists
The cowls, I mean
Hide your face and stuff like that
I'd prefer not look like gachimuchi character still
Honestly with the way I made my character appearances I can't really imagine them with different voices, although we'll get to change them
Only my zealot will be changed
My current plan is
Veteran: Professional -> Cutthroat
Psyker: Savant -> Seer
Zealot: Judge -> Fanatic
Ogryn: Brawler -> Bully
If the Moebian armor looks good with the voice charger headgears
I am expecting an influx of cutthroats
I am running
Veteran - Loose Cannon M
Zealot - Fanatic M
Psyker - Loner M + Savant F
Ogryn - Guardian(?)
And I really don't plan changing at all
Almost every cutthroat I’ve queued into were pretty bad
The only decent ones wore scion helmets
VoC Cutthroat gets a pass
It’s very funny that the veteran personality that whines the most is almost exclusively played by people who don’t know how to play this game
I’m not rly a Cadia hater, I just don’t like how whiny cutthroat is
Scion helm largely fixes that problem for me
I think that line doesn’t get triggered if u have a Cadia origin professional
That's reasonable tbf
yeah
Time to run plasma, so the cutthroats mock me every now and then
«Hey Professional do you know candice?»
«YOUR HOME PLANET BLEW UP»
Professional is actually the most chill with plasma lol
He only says it’s too hot
The other 2 are legit scared of it
Yeah, but the CT will still ask you if you know how to handle it or afraid of a little heat or straight up call you an amateur
It's funny
I am not blaming them for that
You're essentially holding a grenade in your hands
Is plasma the only weapon with such regards?
That's another story
Plasma is just a gun with peril
Still believe that you should harm allies if exploding
Meanwhile cutthroat himself is like “show…no…weakness…”
Skaven tech™
"AAGH, I HATE PLASMA"
cadian vet is based
"Wahhh wahhh Cadia Cadia"
Only with scion helm
Cutthroat entire personality
L take dont care
I wish they did more for the ruthless killer side and less for the “Cadian” side
Loose cannon is one best voice pick I chose blindly
OHH DON 'T STOP BIG MAN 😩
John Darktide.
I like the Cadia Australian, he sounds like a psychopathic nerd
Meet the four rejects
John Darktide the Veteran
Johnny Darktide the Psyker
Joanne Darktide the Zealot
Joe Darktide the Ogryn
If they want to do cosmetic expansions like VT2 I think one aspect they can go for is having new voice personalities for classes
Sienna voice pack for psyker when
I love the part of the game where they say: "It's Dark Tiden time"
Oh, that'd be neat actually, putting it in with a pack. It's not like they need to keep dialogue all that coherent, characters barely keep up a conversation anyway.
Psykers vs Zealot have most conversations
Psyker on Zealot violence
The one i heard the most, truly to the point of nausea, is one from Silly Vet and the "nobleman-like" Zealot, can't remember what they're called, the one that goes "If you could be anywhere, where would you be?"
"The holy altar of Saint whatever!"
"We really oughta work on your imagination"
And so on.
I think the funniest is when someone goes "[Insert thing] over there!" and my Loose Cannon says "Sure! Keep pointing things out, it'll be useful one day." Another character tells her she's being rude and she goes "Suuuure. Take their side."
Oh yeah, that line
even funnier when I'm using focus target to point things out constantly
only SHE is allowed to point out things
or she gets jealous
Loose Cannon and Agitator, noticed when both males
Fem Savant is my second fav voice but only because I adore the French accent and professionalism
I like male loose cannon voice, but the lines are something that I am mixed about
most of her dialogue doesn't have much more interesting about it though tbh
generally very bland lines
Fem Savant though sounds lovely
but wow her accent
I mostly like Loose cannon, it's just a few lines that are specific enough to get old quickly
It seems that only the male has the entire thing
I blindly chose professional for my vet and it was a good choice
"DEFENSE PATTERN- DON'T MATTER, JUST KILL EM"
That is at least a nice little character trait
Loose Cannon Vet eternally torn between the training they only vaguely remember and the desire to just improvise encounters and adapt as they go
I hope they add more voices one day
I want a crazy Catachan fighter voice
Oh I'd love that
Catachan vet would be interesting
Just a guy who loves danger and wants more
would be even better now that the personality scourge thing is being added
let people swap voices around
Yeah, by all means with the personality scourge FS would totally have the chance to introduce more voices now, as long as they keep up with all the interactions.
if you smoke a choke point and your team doesnt go pass it. You will mind control all the gunners to go into the smoke and you guys can melee em
I do love how professional vet throws codes for enemies, makes you feel like you're an actual Veteran of Astra Militarum
I hate french in an ironic way but she gets a pass
Bardin uses his language there so...
It's understandable
Catachan Vet breathing heavy with a wild tone going: "More! More!! Wait. Where's the rest?! Move up! Let's find whatever holes they're hiding in now."
I just love the annoyed tiredness the Loosecannon delivers his lines with.
"You call this bad?! The plants aren't even trying to kill us!"
He's fed up with this shit.
Call it something like "Deathworlder" personality and there you have a little treasure of voice packs
What a death world does to a Astra Mil
"Cadia this. Atoma that. You know Chaos invaded our world once? Took us a week to notice, and by then the flora and fauna had chased them off! Hahah!"
"The Catachan devil bites harder than you, hound"
that's a really good idea
When i made a commissar character for an Only War ttrpg game I literally played him as having accidentally been assigned to the Catachan jungle fighters and having a phobia of them now
the only French I know irl is something I would never actually say irl and it's from a song
Loose cannon also throws codes around
I mean he tries to do that
"voulez vou couchec avec mou" though I probably misspelled it
Vet voice for throwing codes with the Scion helmet feels like a really good vibe
"Gamma... uh... gamma... BURSTER!!!" gotta be my favourite line, just the guy panicking while trying to remember code-talk as this weirdo with a bomb runs up to him.
It's funny how he tries to remember them all
Professional buys me with how fluent he is with them
And overall tone of his voice is pleasant to listen to
"Sigma-something-something"
wait weird question
Traxis-something-SNIPER!!
would the traitors know all the codes anyway?
Why not
I mean probably not the dregs since they're just like cultists and commoners given guns and told to hunt us yeah?
They're guard too
but the traitor legion
Moebian 6th probably does
they probably hear the codes and realise we know what's up
Traitors probably have the idea
In my personal headcanon Veteran characters are just making them up as they go. I never really managed to memorize them, so I just kinda never know what they mean until i actually see the enemy.
You gotta understand that they fought chaos / xenos in the fringe wars so they definitely had designations for chaos and xenos
Their brains aren't particularly functioning well, due to nurgle bs
With ogryn bombs and even worse: rocks.
Also drug dens do be available to them freely now
Also the fact that almost all guns I have on vet have bad stability
I just like thinking he got shakiest hands on Mourningstar
13% stability Agrippina shotgun
Recoil man
get some serious PTSD when 4 poxbursters explode inches away from being lethal to you
can't hold his gun straight but its ok
gets netted by trapper
3 pox bursters spawn
just keep shooting because the heretics are everywhere
Bursters are just annoying
36% stability MG Ia also
I got used to them, they keep people's guards up
I got killed so many times by some trigger happy zealot/vet when I tried to safely shove and defuse them that way
it's a purple ork shaking the gun and whispering "pew pew" in your ears
One vet got me killed by that, five minutes later he bumped onto daemonhost and got properly slain
sounds like you're not the emperor's drunkest veteran
I love karma
it's that other guy
Yeah, that does sound like top bad-vet behaviour
idk when I'm drunk I'm extra stupid tbh
Skill issue
I'm italian so I guess i'm ok with it
Funny thing to just... wonder at alcoholism around the world
Truly humans have more similarities than differences
However negative things and differences are easier to notice
I score around 100 ranged kills per match on Vet, that's how I use my life
Other 400-700 kills are melee
I don't use any scoreboard mod or really any mod tbh so I have no idea what my average kill numbers are in either direction
I shoot things and neuron activates
Same
I play tide games for their melee system
honestly same
Kinda thankful I don't honestly, so long as i play well in general I'm good
I've hit almost 500 ranged kills on vet
Like 497
I use guns excussively on gunners/specials, beast of nurgle
Kinda need to to properly enjoy them, Darktide has way more room for the shooting, but if someone's expecting to just go full call of duty they're probably getting disappointed.
Other things taste the sword
I use MG4 on everything
Playing range focused gets me bored
Horde, elite/special, bosses
Keep a revolver, plasma or bolter if I wanna be fun to blast bigger stuff, then just mow everything else with swords and shovels and stuff.
I don't run plasma out of principle
I stick to vraks 7, agripinaa inf autogun or revolver
I'll shoot anything if my ammo count looks good tbh
Funnily enough I have a build with a bayonetted rifle, that I hate for shooting, because I like using the bayonet.
Barely shoot with it
the big circus map arena thing I'll spray into the small squads of 4 poxwalkers to kill them slightly faster to close gates because I love zipping around the arena solo closing the gates over and over, then run around the stands shooting gunners in their face
Just stab people with both my knife AND my gun
Emperor gave me power sword and therefore I swing it for most of the time
I like closing the doors because it confuses teams who have never done it before
whole map suddenly empty
And I wish I could feel the same love for other melees
I feel like i've never seen a team who actually bothers trying to do that
usually because fighting everything is more chaotic and fun
Did it myself with the stabby vet, just stealth and say "no enemies"
When I grab MG4 my teammates will remember lasgun shooting sfx
but it's also funny seeing how fast I can run around closing the doors by myself while the 3 other squadmates huddle in that little corner with their medipacs and ammo packs
it has been a glorious recon las day
still miss the old stripped down, not being able to sprint at 40mph with the recon 6d stings my soul
same
got home and burned holes through rager packs, crushers, maulers, etc.
laser lightshow has returned to the circus
do u know the reload tec
you can save
a whole second
on ur reload by doing unnecessary keyboard inputs
its a whole new level of recon las memery
ur gun will feel bottomless he clips that battery in so faaaayst
i cant believe i just pulled this
veteran build: knife columnus
zealot build: knife columnus
🤔

Is the mic headset for vet bots in the rotation or is it one of those unreleased items?
Unreleased
Nah im talking about the normal one
Tomorrow
Im willing to bet its gonna be released tomorrow yeah
ok got a decent Recon Mk VIIa and I gotta say this isn't nearly as funny as the Recon VId
maybe the cleave makes for funny moments I'm not seeing
i think it's for when you're put in a game with 3 ogryns
Would you use that on a fully loaded build?
I would change Skullcrusher at least, but yeah, maybe
that makes more sense

I've never much bothered with breakpoints, but can't go wrong with extra crit chance. Unyielding I'd say.
Was probably gonna go for that as well
Should get you to what base 30-35% crit chance with Surge on top you'll be critting a lot.
Let me go find my revys
I have a 550 like the one on the right on my zealot but I'm lazy
I'm interested to see what the Heavy version of the revolver is like
This Knife with this talent is absurdly good if you stack more melee and weakspot damage on top.
Yall ever go half or more of a decade before realizing Windows sets your monitor's hz way lower than it can actually go?
I feel kinda stupid now
did they fix vet talent tree yet?
once upon a time i played veteran a lot and then fatshark said "getting headshots while moving is LAME. From this point on, only headshots while standing still. Thank you"
and i never played the game again
Fixed how? What do you mean?
uhhh way back in like patch 15/16 they redid veterans and they were completely fucked. Was like 1 solid build for veteran and it wasnt even that solid compared to the other classes
Yeah it's solid now
When they added the new veteran keystones and they were all garbage so people started making builds not using keystones
yeah the whole talent tree was a flaming pile of dogshit, the keystones sucked ass
yeah thats not my point
are zealot keystones still better by a good degree?
Specialist keystone is good
Oh definitely
But the keystones we have are fun if you play into them
They're not just so general
It’s tough to evaluate the Vet’s keystones in a vacuum, but Focus Target keystone is stupidly broken good
Weapons Specialist is not far behind, and while Marksman’s Focus keystone is niche, it has valid use still
^
i like to play "Im good at games and i can headshot everything and do well because skill" and then fatshark said "uhh you should uhh... stand still. yeah. standing still is cool. OR, you can mark stuff. you like marking stuff right? wha.. what? you want to just shoot them in the head instead? the marking is a waste of time? no no..
Focus Target carried my Hard Mode Twins run.
OH COOL WAIT if you dont want to mark stuff. swap weapons a lot!
swapping your weapons a lot is super fun!
Honestly this just seems like cope to me
it was just way better before the update
headshoot shit, dont have to worry about moving to much, can just headshot shit and kill it instead of marking it first, which is just redundant in my eyes
The only thing that sucks with weapon specialist is dodge distance is capped at 15%
i have to mark it and then shoot it. why not just... shoot it
So you can't get insane dodges
Lets be real, fatshark realized veteran was op af in a skilled players hands
and nerfed the fuck out of him
and pissed off a lot of veteran players.
I don't see the issue tbh
want me to look at your player count?
I can true solo auric damnation with vet
He has the most toughness and toughness replenishment of any class
Veteran tree rework killed the class for me. I'll come back and check in another year or so.
thanks for the info
true word guys
i have like more then 1k jours on my zealot
i want to play veteran. I want to headshot hordes of heretics
Veteran tree is goated bruh
Genuinely delulu
and not be tasked with some bullshit " dont move" stacks, weapon swapping, or lame ass marking shit when i should be shooting shit
meanwhile zealot gets a YAY CRITS ARE FUN keystone
and its no fun going damnation with a loadout like auric mealstorm 😄
that uses 0 effort
Dude do you know how much weapon swapping you do
or skill
It's basically free crit chance
with veteran? if you're good? not much. headshot everything.
Kill an enemy with your sword? boom, 33% crit chance
convserve ammo
a single dude
im being 100% serious
and thats fucking stupid
its the fucking ranged gun headshot class
Veteran can 2 shot a Crusher to the head
Idk what to tell you man, just sounds like you hate the game instead of finding ways to shape it to you and have fun with it
no i hate what they did to veteran
Vet melee is way more fun than zealot
then u have no clue about zelaot
Right now I'm playing a Stealth Sniper Veteran with the Headhunter Autogun and the Headshotting keystone
It's fun
zealot is op with a good team they r unsotppable
I didn't say its more op I said its more fun
heres the main issue.
Zealot gets free crits. He literally has a keystone that says "Here you go, FUN. enjoy:"
Veteran gets "You can have some bonus but jump through these rings for me first"
Veteran also gets free crits lmao
vets r cool but sometimes it doesnt work u have not that toughness
Veteran gets "You can have some bonus but jump through these rings for me first"
It's not much of a ring my guy
"not moving" on the hardest difficulties, is definitely a ring.
hmm
That isn't what it is at all lmao
much more so than "Hey you're zealot and you have free crit"
Besides
If you dislike that keystone so much, use a different one
NOTHING
free crit
veteran? dont move. swap weapons. spam mark on things
Its stupid.
sorry
but its stupid
Well what do you want veteran to have lmao
idk it was pretty solid before the update 🙂
guys
close combat and range r 2 diff shoes:D
The difference is close combat is easy
zealot is not a sniper 😄
the 75% toughness dmg reduction in ult was broken
and ranged headshots isnt
Headshots are easy, at this point I say skill issue
the more skill based class was given more skill based bullshit. while zealot gets to spam m1
well he can with that revolver but main work is give bleed and crit
and skill
You know you dont have to pick a keystone right?
I'm gonna go back to playing the keystone this guy says is garbage lmao
that the new meta builds after the patch were "just dont use a keystone"
sad is i am like 1 month in H2 and idk when the patch will come out
some say april in 1 week ?
"Alright. so you dont like the new vet keystones. We'll try and play devils advocate and say that these keystones are fine but after you point out why they are super stupid ultra trash that killed the class, we'll concede and say.. ok fine. Dont use the trash keystones then"
game deserved to die after that patch. good riddance.
My problem with the game is the crafting, not the classes.
Crafting is fine
It's no Vermintide 2 that's for sure
Speak of the devil
😄
If you want a fun melee vet try this
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bcc50ac-460e-4dd1-aa75-aeb9f40a3885/clutch-vet
Try to switch shoot revolver every 10 seconds (you shouldnt have to reload once)
Skill issue
if you really try hard enough you can build your vet kinda like a knife zealot and do really well in melee and has a plasma gun 
That’s what I run
vet is fine lol, just spam VoC and have not a care in the world
thats what i run with weapon specialist
like you're practically immortal
Vet has plasma, the best weapon in the game
its like more fun
its like melee to plasma shot melee to plasma shot and my brain gives me so much dopamine
you can also eat a crusher overhead if you have yello toughness
Also the most boring option but that's just, like, my opinion
oh it 100% is the boring option lmao
VoC needs a fus ro dah upgrade that just absolutely launches the enemy you're aiming at off the map
Broken AF but hilarious
It's quite hilarious how you can make beast of nurgle spit someone out by VoC
I misread your name as Indian Eater
there's no follow up, I just thought the room should know
Yellow toughness would be much less broken if it was something you can't regen back by kills and such, one time thing when you pop VoC
Or just yeet it completly
i appreciate you
🍆
Thing is if yellow toughness didn't do it, it would kinda suck 
PS mk6+revolver is the most fun
But the options outside of voc aren't terribly impressive
But as is, it invalidates the one remotely dangerous mechanic of fighting with heavy elites
and 2/3 vet auras are also lackluster
Not that if matters greatly, in good teams elites are hardly ever an issue
hellbore bayonet only is also silly
The bayonet got toned down with brutal removal
Why is Ripper bayonet weaker than puny Veteran bayonet 
I'm fine with one shot overheads being countered by two ults considering that the only time I ever get downed from them anyway is due to netcode BS
Helbro Bayo is still plenty strong, though, you just can’t do everything with it right now (or do so “inefficiently”)
I'll dodge out of the way, watch the overhead hit the ground in front of/to my side, and then get downed
I wouldn’t mind that, had the ability not been stupid easy to use in any situation, and on a relatively short cool down time
This assumes the vet player actually uses it
And doesn't just hold onto it the whole game for "personal emergencies"
Or reviving the teammates with the upgrade 
I use it fairly often, bringing that Mercenary mindset from Vermintide
No
Nope.
Just have some patience
Bro I’m not being impatient I just can’t sleep like I said
That's fire
in 14min. it was revealed to me in a dream
I don't trust doctors
They tell me that red piss isn't natural and I don't believe them
frfr
foolish medicine men don’t know the power of the beet juice
if ciggies are bad then why sdo they make me feel good?
they make you feel good but create an overflow so become bad
that’s why you leave them unfinished
Smoking cigs is bad, be like Wojtek bear from 2nd Polish corp and eat cigarettes
mom didint raise a quitter
i need wojtek for artillery support
He got you covered
i need to see a shell with kurwa scribbled on it slam into a daemonhost
best i can do is krak
I can do that for you, anything else you want to be written on that oddly krak grenade shaped shell?
huh?
but seriously, best way to "banish" a demon host is a shit ton of krak grenades
Legalize krak grenades for home defense
bobr kurwa
I see Veteran chat is implementing Polish language into common Militarum speech
Bardzo dobrze 
awlkjafgalsjbc
ejwjsjpzp zozowjsn sooxozj zapso
I should've guess Vet chat would be full of polish, life is about just as miserable as actual real life Poland
For the sake of honesty i'm not polish, I'm italian, which is to say my life is also miserable but at least the weather is usually pretty good.
o kurwa
Let's not throw too much Polish in here, we don't want mods to ruin our lil corner
especially when most of us dont even speak polska
That's a skill issue imo
weather in finland is a bit silly but atleast you can always drown yourself in alcohol
To be fair, Veteran chat is probably the best one in the server, it's almost always talking about veteran. Psyker and ogryn chat are a coin toss, and I've never, even once, seen zealot chat talking about zealot class.
The evergreen solution of poisoning oneself
thats metal

i wonder if sigma minoris 33 like to lick peanut butter
There’s only so much to talk about, about Zealot 
Veteran at least has an interesting skill tree
i wonder what would happen if we tried to pet a sigma minoris 33
like, would the petting hand's skin dissolve from the plagues its carrying if we actually managed to pet it, or would it just chomp the hand off because its very aggressive?
this question also applies to the heretics, btw, as they don't seem to give their dogs any signs of affection either (although, we can't be too certain about that).
hmmm most of us are wearing gloves and one of the witches can sedate it with smite
that experience may be shocking
You ever seen the Ku'gath intro in total war warhammer 3? That's probably it. You touch it and you get a countdown to pet it until your skin melts off.
Can't say much about ogryn chat, cause I don't check it, but others are usually a shuffle of topics, related to class in question or not
besides selling me unpowered laspistols again, did melk cook here?
this is true. i've tried swaying the conversation in zealot chat a couple times but i always get ignored. ogryn is the one class i don't play and psyker chat is always super nice but, as you said, a coin toss on if you catch them talking about psyker or not
veteran chat is the 2nd general chat i'd say
Smh not slaughterer and headtaker or however that blessing was called
nah the laspistol kinda crazy
idc much about the chainaxe (check name) but it looked pretty good with the stat spread (how is that a 337 i don't know) and thrust
it's got 3/4 good things and i'm able to change 2 things
That chainaxe doesn't really look that good I'd say
Trust is only somewhat okay but even that's debatable
i'll leave this gun at this. imagine the worst combination of perks and blessings you can, this gun has it
I'd say both look great for blessings but the bases are meh
whachu mean the laspistol is a meh base?
You lost a dodge, that's not fun
what are your standards if that is considered "meh"?
That's about it.
That autopistol is always funny to look at no matter what
If you are accept to get slapped by ragers too many times because your dodges ran out its a great weapon, but personnally i rarely take weapons under 370 just because the missing points add up over time
keep in mind that i play flamer zealot and i'm always in situations where i'm facing 6 crushers constantly attacking me while i'm walking back and they're overheading me and i never get hit
🤨
if a loss of 1 dodge is holding you back, there's no hope for you
60 hz to 75 hz: Barely noticeable, but still kind of looks better
75 hz to 60 hz: What the hell am I even looking at and how come this used to be fine?
try 240hz, then go back down to 60
+Stamina, +Stamina Eff, Terrifying Barrage, and ....Terrifying Barrage because it is Hadron and she loves that blessing
i used to play everything at 30 fps max before i got my, arguably not that great anymore, laptop fixed. i thought it wasn't that big of a difference but now when my game goes down to even 50 i'm like "ewwwww"
30-60 is an immense difference
Triple digits or go home
Can't go back to below 240
Oh no
Interesting change. Will feed less ammo for sure now.
Idk, but I chuckled
"FFS I CANT HIT IT" 
If this works, thats awesome
Which ones scavenger again?
Confirmed? That hurts
Thats the basic survivalist
Yay marksman key stone buff
Gonna have some changes overall to how people play with the skill
Now you have to better manage your ammo count with low ammo count weapons
it does work, but you still flinch from getting hit by enemy ranged fire if you don't have any toughness left iirc
getting shot with toughness feels much better though
Damn, I just needed 100k more dead heretics for the million kills, and now they halved the required amount
Well, admittedly if youre out of toughness, you should avoid gunfire
I mean that's a more reasonable number but damn
Surprising no weapon balance changes
Now vets will shoot even less 
I mean, arent most weapons in a good state right now? Id say only bolter needed some buffs and thats it honestly
I was half expecting some tweaks to weapons, but with the survivalist changes. I wonder how it'll shift the weapon meta up
Maybe Las weapons will become more common because shock trooper being nearly required now
Las weapons will be shifted up
Removed the “force field” in front of Bulwarks that allowed them to block hits/shots that didn’t look like they would be blocked by their shield.
yay no longer feel like im nerfing myself by switching off survivalist
I wonder if shots from the front diagonal will now hit past the shield
Will allow some exploration into the other auras for Vet
Or give a bit more freedom with points since you're not being forced into the survivalist tax
reads patch notes
notices now we “technically” have another investigation mission by virtue of reclassification
…would have been nice before I farmed the dangly XD
how big is the nerf?
5 sec cd on ammo gain
5s cooldown on it
5 second cool down between procs
O.o
Pretty big
Hunting grounds is no longer a free ammo refil
Pretty big
so still good but not litterally infinite ammo on efficient weapons
Im curious if you kill 5 enemies at the same time,with the plasma shot or grenade does it count as 1 kill or cooldown after first?
especially on higher difficullties
My plasma woupd get a 5 kills every second
Rip infinite ammo
i would assume only 1 proc

Las weapons are gonna spike in usage
How we feeling about the changes?
since multikills give individual ammo procs
On paper hard to really say. Need some experience on the field to really know
Marksman stuff got buffed good so I like it. Surv is whatever nerf honestly, just get more tinboxes
I can instantly see Las weapons becoming more popular on vets
buffs to marksman focus is nice so you dont need to have amazing aim to upkeep it.
small buff to executioner is nice, nerf to survivalist was deserved
Surv should be a base line skill anyway, and be replaced by something of equal value to the other two options
That 5s cd for 1% ammo is brutal
Oh out for blood is gonna help with Horde clearing
fire team is definitely the worst, such a small dmg increase thatll very rarely change breakpoints
Kinda wish Exe stance gives a instant reload
yeah
But hey. It having less CD is nice
Let's not reintroduce what was broken in the first place
Twice as nice when your curios also have cd decrease lol
why it might even be possible to scout for ambushes using Exe stance!
tbh why would you cd reduction on exe anyway lol just extend it
Now to play the. What mod breaks this time
oh yeah
Yeah that is a bit of an odd buff
Wish exec stance would give a little bit of rending instead
not really just pick up some ammo instead
i never really have to pick up ammo guess i will have to now sometimes
yeah theres quite a lot off ammo pick ups
vet privilege now sorry pskyers zaelots ogryns etc
I was Enjoying not having to fight over ammo with the Recon storm troopers
changes nothing in the grand scheme they gotta rework or buff the other 2 talent options instead
you will fight the ammo burners and you will like it
I mean I always did
its a dumb change
bandaid fix that doesnt fix the problem
basically just a " we heard you and did something" change
There's still enough ammo spawns with the change but coordinating with randoms for it is now harder
New update. So now to wait for a bit for mods to be updated
Aaand immediate negativity


i finally can change the voice of my peeps
now i can LARP as Cadian in Cadia armor yay
MAKE IT STOP. I BOOTED UP THE GAME AND I HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED BY 50+ PENNANCE MESSAGES ALREADY
Your Pennance is PEnnance reading Reject
lmao
nah you'll survive
honestly the exe chances I sleep but the marksman focus buffs are big
Power Sword users laugh at the “debuff.”
Ogryn stole it, remember?
yea this is a W patch for veteran
Ammo nerfs is not a W
I'm suprised VoC wasn't gutted (wouldn't even disagree if they did) and I'm also suprised sharpshootie vet finally got some love, and in a direction I completely agree with
It’ll be fine
Huh, didnt expect a decent looking backpack for free
yeah i might debate dropping the camouflage talent now and increase stacks to 15 instead
I think 6 seconds is lenient enough that you should be able to comfortably maintain it now
Peak 
Looks much better then the shitty ones they have for ordos.
Also dope mask at the end, would fit infiltrate builds
oh god thats ugly
Need to play around it a bit more but I think it should be a lot simpler to maintain 80%max stacks now
Finally we got it boys
Bro is subzero 
It's been 2 years...
how much for It?
Finally, Darktide has "launched".
1900 achiev points
Oh my god I gotta unlock this and see it
Welp now i know what to do at night
Of course there's no preview.
blades out for harambe
5s coodown on survivalist means it procs once every 5 seconds?
Christ, thats a fun one to do in pubs 
Prepare for sweats leaving immediately on downs 
so nothing new there
Yes, I guess the DT devs dont want you to use any of the rapid fire weapons
Nvm, this is even worse
Especially not recon lasgun, that'd be too fun
cant complain too much survivalist was extremely overpowered
I mean it just means having to grab a few more ammo pickups I guess.
Depended entirely on which weapon you used
Not maelstrom though
didnt matter which weapon old survivalist just made ammo a non-mechanic
Meaning more efficiency per shot
I'm sure it was if you played on lower difficulties
yes 1k hours have been spent only in sedition
Nah I think even in Damnation you barely had to pick up a tin or two at worst. Even with Autoguns.
How do you spend 1k hours in a game and still know so little about it
no comment
Good
If anything at least exec and mf can be maintained at a similar pace and you no longer have this weird timing difference in upkeep
I didnt notice individual penances gave new armor sets too
…
…oh great I might need to farm for that lol
I can't believe they nerfed Survivalist 😔 it clearly needed a buff
Thank goodness, but I am an old school Exec stance guy. Gonna get wrecked I suspect when I try to farm it XD.
Hm, so we got around 5 I think new sets per class. Thats pretty pog.
Alr Time to build 200 toughness on veteran with triple 4% CDR
I mean its not like its hard to play a VoC vet
Also, sidenote, Dear lord this backpack for psyker 
at least the cosmetics look pretty diverse
Fair point and come to think of it, I wonder what the Exec stance equivalent reward is.
This is such a funny change
That was in the old penances already lol
I can't believe they nerfed recon again 😔
its dumb but was to be expected
Ah ok thx for clarifying.
cause some people cry about balancing while the other 2 options are garbage in comparison even after nerf
Yep
im glad they nerfed survivalist but a cooldown is kind of strange
I CALLED IT
they unironically nerfed recon by that
It still solves nothing
I DEFINITELY CALLED IT
like unironically even less ammo for it lmao
Besides making the best option shittier
I might actually need to worry about ammo now
instead making other auras better they decieded to nerf only good option lmao
To be fair, the other auras are comparable to other classes
Survivalist is just "slightly better" UwU
"slightly"
They really should just delete survivalist, make scavenger base with his aura upgrades and I guess keep the CD lmao
hey now the special lasgun snowflakes can argue that their gun isnt that bad
They should give me infinite ammo
I'll have to actually play with it to see how bad it is
muh ammo efficiency etc etc
Or give everyone a means to regen some ammo off like meleeing specials or elites
changes nothing i will just start picking up ammo again now instead
sucks for the other classes that need those
i mean, isnt that the point
Gunpsykers on suicide watch
to pick up ammo again and consider it as a mechanic
#veteran-class message Too predictable
Nah I'll just helbore again
its a bad token change
T’augryns are over
Damn i went from Cadian to Warp entity in one update
but hey im not the ogryn zaelot or gun psyker
rumbler ogryns w/ survivalist was definitely the least enjoyable game to play in
so i couldnt car eless
OfB buff is very nice
My character really just banished into the warp
but tbh i played blizzard games im used to bad balance changes
especially those obviously made to appease some people
The more things change, the more they stay the same 
I wonder if the Pox bomber buff messes with breakpoints
Brutal momentum pls still 1-hit kill :c
Oof another veteran slap
Surv nerf is deserved
That scavenger aura cooldown, coulda been balanced mulitple otherways.
Didn't they also hit another one with the same cooldown though?
Wait for me guys
Am at work anyway
…looks like my update may take my entire night’s sleep to wait it out lol
The dedication to "attack me in my gut so I die horribly" Armor Pattern mk1. that Fatshark is outsourcing for is remarkable.
That bad?
It's just some penances, not really any must play content
Not necessarily bad. Just, eh.
Hopefully we at least get some good looking cosmetics






