MK 10 Laspistol + PS6 with this skill build
#veteran-class
grand perch
MK 10 Laspistol + PS6 with this skill build
You can drop the immunity to suppression if you're using laspistol, they have in-built immunity already
daring jungle
lyric dock
You can drop the immunity to suppression if you're using laspistol, they have in...
I actually never knew that
Thanks for the info
Stuff like that would been nice to mention in game
wanton dawn
Plasma PS switch clown fiesta when no other vet for surv
dreamy vortex
Chain Axe build:
My build is pretty much the same
Though I need to rework it probably
However I run res shout
Idk why anyone wouldn't tbh
grand perch
Because limiting yourself to one ability is booooriiing
amber cliff
bring back pre skill tree patch perks right NOW
grand perch
Also I think the shout makes for kind of boring gameplay anyway
I wanna click piss yellow shooting gremlins so exec stance is bae
dreamy vortex
I like the about
I'm not great at ranged combat and it's not my main damaged dealer
Shout*
I run power sword with slaughter and power cycler 2
vivid silo
Though I need to rework it probably
If Im not running Chain Axe I dont take the Stamina Regen delay nodes, and a few other minor changes
grand perch
I wanna click piss yellow shooting gremlins so exec stance is bae
Like this #darktide-pics-vids message
dreamy vortex
What guns do you guys run?
vivid silo
Idk why anyone wouldn't tbh
I prefer having it available on a shorter CD. I can almost always buy space for revives with the normal shout anyways, and if not, Shredders work fine too. In my experience of course.
dreamy vortex
I like to have it as a quick "oh fuck I'm gonna die rn" res
I've saved a lot of runs with it
grand perch
Most used guns gotta be vraks Mk7 and infantry lasgun mg Ia
dreamy vortex
My issue with the non res shout is that gunners that are far away will still fuck me up
vivid silo
I personally usually run the Plasma, but only because its been my primary weapon since January last year. I dislike it being so strong currently, but get around that by relying on my melee weapon as much as possible
vivid silo
I guess I just prefer to Shout more often, preventing bad things from happening
vivid silo
I wont say either is better, its personal preference
grand perch
Nah, non res is better, and I say that as someone who used to run Res shout all the time
But it's occasionally clutch if you do have res
dreamy vortex
Nah, non res is better, and I say that as someone who used to run Res shout all ...
Idk maybe I need to run the other one
I do have 50% res speed increase
vivid silo
If you are also running the res VoC I'd say that might be a bit too much on the safe side 😄
dreamy vortex
I like the safe side
grand perch
Yeah, I used to have 50% res speed on top of the shout, too. Teammates on the ground are arguably the first point of failure in random matches
dreamy vortex
Definitely
grand perch
But 30% is way enough already, and without shout
dreamy vortex
I had a run that was going perfect yesterday then one dude went down and it fell apart
balmy flume
What guns do you guys run?
Infantry AG. Columnus or Agri depending on mood.
Columnus is seen as best of the lot, but I stuck with Agri for quite some time for the heavier punch and the inherent cleave.
late hatch
The c5 goes from great to nuts with deadshot and crouching to fire
dreamy vortex
I'll have to try it
What blessings do you use on it?
I can't remember exactly what they're called but I have increased damaged on certain salvos and damaged on repeated hit
lyric dock
DumDum for repeated hits
dusky flare
Watching the recon vet with weak spot perk shoot bodies and tank sniper shots while you're dead because someone killed the burster in front of you might just be the most aggravating experience in this entire game.
lyric dock
Recon vets is just "I hope you don't mind not having ammo pick ups"
Because I swear Recon vets can't manage ammo
First horde encounter. Already Orange ammo
slow spade
Recon vets is just "I hope you don't mind not having ammo pick ups"
Recon meta 😎
somber axle
Watching the recon vet with weak spot perk shoot bodies and tank sniper shots wh...
Sometimes you gotta laugh at the absolute nonsense that happens in games and watch the clown fiesta unfold
I went to shove a poxburster recently and a revolver vet one tapped it sending me sailing over the edge to my instant death
After my screen swapped to his perspective he stared motionless for 5 seconds
I was laughing
He apologized
It was ok because it was very funny
wanton dawn
Probably the standard one
somber axle
Even funnier if one guy tries REALLY hard to get to you and free you from the dog/net but keeps getting tackled by muties
Stuck for 30 seconds and it's extra funny
hoary horizon
Probably the standard one
What blessing should Ulgo get
wanton dawn
What blessing should Ulgo get
I'd refer to the pinned guide
simple hinge
Hi guys, I've got a small question: have you met with such problem: when using Lucius helbore, you fire, it hits, but no damage dealt
somber axle
Yeah I've had that problem with both the Helbores and the Kantraels. Sometimes the lasgun hits just do not register and idk why
tame lodge
What guns do you guys run?
If I'm feeling like practicing my shots, Lucius Mk 3 or Vraks 7
If I'm feeling like spray and pray, Graia Mk 4
grand perch
That's pretty much a thing with all guns
tame lodge
Yeah , you see the blood splatter but no damage
wanton dawn
It happens yes. Very noticiable when I try to land headshot
I think it is a client-server communication issue
aka lag
slow spade
Nurgle blessed troopers with bad hit reg
Its why Atoma is so difficult to attack and hold
tame lodge
That's what I theorized, 200 ms gaming
tame lodge
Nurgle blessed troopers with bad hit reg
Tzee is playing tricks on the strike team
dreamy spade
tame lodge
Honestly, I'd recommend swapping Tinkerer for Field Improv
But that's just me, you know
dreamy spade
Yeah idk what to do for the nades
But revolver works very well with weapon specialist
Because you only get 1 stack of melee specialist
Revolver you shoot like once or twice while fighting then switch back which refreshes the melee specialist
I wanna test how fast I can reload lol
45% atm
I could go for volley adept
Which increases it to 75%
brisk sapphire
no confirmed kill or exhilarating is... something
vernal harbor
we got roland deschain over here
dreamy spade
And then I can get another 50% from blessing
vernal harbor
dreamy spade
So 125% reload speed
vernal harbor
still
dreamy spade
But which have priority
vernal harbor
might be the fastest gunslinger on the planet
dreamy spade
fresh saddle
bought from Melk, worth fixing or just rip Dumdum?
vernal harbor
Keep it
Less work and I doubt you’d see the difference if you fired that one and then one with higher percentages
fresh saddle
cool, thanks
fresh saddle
Not perfect
should save ourselves the effort and just scrap every reject in the warband lol
tame lodge
what the fuck was i thinking i hope vet chat will spare me
You'll probably get sent to the worst Frontline, if they do spare you
dreamy spade
I scraped my 380 yesterday because i needed more dockets but then I realised I have curios to sell
verbal rivet
lyric dock
Hi guys, I've got a small question: have you met with such problem: when using L...
That happens with all the weapons. Sometimes you get Fat sharked
gilded wraith
This will be for use on a vet. Swap Riposte for Uncanny? What should I change on perks?
junior needle
bought from Melk, worth fixing or just rip Dumdum?
Works fine for now, swap the perks to flak/maniac
Gun is severely overtuned
junior needle
This will be for use on a vet. Swap Riposte for Uncanny? What should I change ...
Serrated is mandatory for mercy killer. "Taking a bleed blessing" is not enough and also requires you to give up uncanny, which is BIS for a reason.
You can change riposte to uncanny and go mercy, then change unyielding to flak
Or change mercy if you don't want to go serrated
tiny summit
I like my smoke build now
Who are these people in your games?
wanton dawn
wym ?
tiny summit
The fact the dmg spreads you share looks like you have complete lemmings
wanton dawn
Well, on this one I carried completely until the lvl 377 vet came
But to answer your question: I am top damage on most of my match
And usually you don't reach 1m damage if you play with good ppl too
tiny summit
I top dmg in a lot of my games too but at least the margin barely ever looks like this
Still haven't had 1m. Closest I had was like 850k and a Ogryn had the mil.
wanton dawn
I have a lot of 1m on no ammo usually
Other maelstrom it is quite rare, unless i am taken hostage in vault spire
This build though, the damage are very high across the board and it kills horde so I
d expect to get more 1m damage out of it
clear whale
heres my 40k build
however can someone tell me how the jotus okrens
skin is gonna release again
shits been botherin me
or at least that its a reacurign thing and not limited to once in liike 10 years
quartz rose
Rushing melee builds still the meta. I see a lot of people in my games never pushing when the enemy is dug in... annoying always having to be the one to lead the charge.
Fast clear, fast mats
clear whale
rushing melee is so fun
quartz rose
Yeah tbh it's a lot less stress and effort than shooting the enemys 1 by 1
clear whale
all hail the holy shovel doe
still doe being able to switch is whats great witha krieg build
quartz rose
Ah i'm not a lore accurate builder. I use revolver to kill all threats
clear whale
ahh okay
supple stag
all hail the holy shovel doe
Which one I wonder, cause we got 3 of them
tame lodge
Standard
supple stag
Not a fan myself, I like the Mk III shovel
tame lodge
I'm a fan of the VII
Same moveset as the standard issue with the ability to hit even harder
supple stag
With VII you use heavy attacks for horde clear ye?
wanton dawn
I published my last build experiment, it fit my playstyle perfectly: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bc6b899-6a0d-4fe4-9c6a-fb623550ac59/psplasma-agile-vet
languid garnet
Haven't been on for a long while, do we have new guns for the veteran?
New suppressed weapons?
midnight mortar
Haven't been on for a long while, do we have new guns for the veteran?
No.
midnight mortar
New suppressed weapons?
Haha, we've never had suppressed weapons though.
tame lodge
What would a suppressed weapon accomplish
last parcel
it'd sound cool as fuck
languid garnet
What would a suppressed weapon accomplish
Not alerting a horde?
But considering stealth isn't an option... it's just a cope stick for your gun
terse idol
Not alerting a horde?
Hordes are just on a timer 😌
I mean yeah it'd sound cool
Maybe it could make it more accurate
trim hemlock
Maybe it could make it more accurate
Not alterting a horde of poxwalkers on lights out modifier
Totally tangible a usecase
tiny summit
There's like at max less than 10 small squads of enemies stuck in a corner of a map that you didn't run through that don't get aggroed
somber axle
What would a suppressed weapon accomplish
ok hear me out: those moments where you see gunner patrols using a suppressed gun on the back if no enemy has LoS on the target you shoot or on you, they don't aggro
stealth that is ultimately trivial and really only helps clear the occasional pack before a special spawns and the fun begins
it'll never happen but it would be funny to wipe an entire patrol of gunners without any of them noticing
tame lodge
Hmmm, you could get some friends and coordinate ambushes
arctic rampart
@wanton dawn smoke grenades!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! Never tried it but wouldn't mind. In my version I have similar build, except I found 10% rending strikes gave me some breakpoints I didn't expect. I tried it out on a whim and couldn't get rid of it anymore after. Also took 20% ogryn/monst damage. Dopping kraks/smokes and agile engagement will give you 3 points if you want to try it. I still don't have sunder to try it out over BM.
wanton dawn
<@369921403098628097> smoke grenades!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??! Never tried it but would...
Agile is not negotiable
Also you are suggesting dropping the 10% melee dmg node
I know what your version looks like, but the whole point of this build is to maximize agile value
My choice was either krak or smoke. Smoke is a more useful utility picks for a melee-oriented build which already deal massive dmg to big target
Also smoke does not rely on the 5% regen node
Frag cost too much talent point for melee
final stag
Truth especially with how effective melee vet is at horde clearing and elite dueling they don't really need frags
arctic rampart
I like krak for boss damage, shredders are kind of meh sort of useful since vet is so stupid at horde clear anyway with ps/shovel/mk13 chain/axes. So far I like 20% ogryn/boss damage, it's really useful. I've never tried 10% melee damage. It sounds better than kraks, but dunno if it hits breakpoints and its expensive to get there in the tree. Is it interesting on cleaves? I'd like try that with BM,Sunder,Slaughterer. (Still dont have sunderer)
hollow ibex
Nah frag is always useful
agile forge
Frags can clean up a horde with minimal attention
Freeing you and your team up for more dangerous shit
2 consecutive bombs are really strong as a combo
The bleed will finish off most basics. All basics even maybe?
I like smokes but I think they might need tinkerer
final stag
Frag is great for VoC and Exe but Infil or just melee vet in general are just good at slaughter. I can deal with everything short of a boss, so i have kraks for bosses.
Plus taking frag for a melee vet is a talent sink.
But I do know frags are the best grenade the vets have.
agile forge
Yeah, I wouldn't take frags on melee vet
inner rune
What are good blessings for the Agripinaa Revolver?
final stag
Handcannon and crucian
You're not gonna be aiming long enough to get a benefit out of surgical.
inner rune
on that note
anything in particular on the talent tree I should have for the revolver
lyric dock
I haven't use the Agripinaa revolver much so can't really say much for it
arctic rampart
- Useful Perks: Flak, Maniac, Unyielding, Reload speed
- Useful Blessings: Handcannon, Surgical, Crucian Roulette
I don't use revolver but maybe deadshot and superiority complex
final stag
For agri? It's really good as a big game hunter so I recommend going down the exe side for all the ranged buffs and weakspot buffs. Go for the talents that increase damage against ogryns and monstrosities. You should be able to the one killing all ogryn enemies.
lyric dock
The main issue for the Agri and you'll feel it fast if you used the Zarona a lot. Agri has no pierce at all so any fodder enemy can happily eat your shot up
final stag
And allies too
I like the weapon a lot and use it for my monster hunter build can annihilate big targets but spraying into a crowd to get that special is riskier. Take shredders.
lyric dock
I hope the Agri gets some pierce even if it is enough to hit through 1 ally and 1 fodder enemy
final stag
Same that would MASSIVELY boost the agri
It's one of my favorite weapons just in an aesthetic standpoint
lyric dock
It's a fun ass gun to use, but it feels miserable to use if you're playing with a lot of Melee focus players since you can't shoot through them. A pain I rediscovered using the MK 10 Laspistol
final stag
Hfnsnd yeah. But it shines against crushers and reapers. And BoN. Or any boss.
I first made the cowboy build for fun for an auric maelstrom (monstrosities from specialist) and it was a beast.
lyric dock
It's great as a "Oh shit I need you dead yesterday"
final stag
With exe I feel like a real cowboy
It's highhhhh noon vibe
junior rivet
Why does not a single vet run field improv?
final stag
Sometimes you want that talent point somewhere else.
I take it dependant on the build.
junior rivet
Dont lie to me. I'm the only person who ever has it.
tame lodge
Bs I have it as well
elder fiber
I saw somebody take it, drop an ammo box during a horde and slurp up all uses of it "for nade spam"
junior rivet
Bs I have it as well
Lyin ass
tame lodge
You know I won't be lying when there's 12 smoke grenades deployed in less than a minute
junior rivet
kek
final stag
That's awful
tame lodge
Ikr
inland orchid
hotboxing the heretics one smoke bomb at a time 
supple stag
Why does not a single vet run field improv?
I need some other things for my melee vet loadout
tame lodge
It's hilarious at assassination mission, cover everything in smoke and don't see the final cutscene
supple stag
It's hilarious at assassination mission, cover everything in smoke and don't see...
Didn't know your Vet is addicted to vaping
rigid pilot
They should make the smoke grenades actually drugs and buff atkspeed or smth
tame lodge
I can stop at anytime
supple stag
I can say the same about alcohol
junior needle
Agri is not nearly as reliable for headshot uptime due to its spread
It's a very gimmicky weapon that is in almost all regards, substantially worse than the zarona
Exe probably improves its awful fanning spread a bit but
Then you're taking exe just to make a gun not suck to use
rigid pilot
If you stop moving and crouch it's actually quite accurate
elder fiber
I just take deadshot with stamina on tagged kill for agri revolver, goes a long way to helping its accuracy
Also that
split sapphire
I like having my talent tree built along side my power sword to bring down most specialists and elites in 1-3 hits, most exemplary indeed
final stag
Isn't that why a talent tree exist
To make weapons good and vibe off the build.
If I don't experiment is the game even fun fjndnf
final stag
I wasn't stating it towards you but yeah fndndn
last parcel
five naked Danes never drive North?
junior needle
If you stop moving and crouch it's actually quite accurate <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
The spread is still pretty icky
rigid pilot
Ah I shoot slowly
final stag
I only spray like that point blank for further targets I try to at least pace my shots fjnfnf
last parcel
fake Jordans never feel nice feet
tame lodge
Me trying to proc Emperor's Bullet
junior needle
You'd likely be much better served with a zarona if you're pacing your shots
rigid pilot
Biggest advantage is the speed loader, firing rate should be similar because fanning without hitting heads is so bad
final stag
Biggest advantage is the speed loader, firing rate should be similar because fan...
Biggest advantage is fire rate and speedloader
It can out dps the zarona it's just zarona has a better cleave, range and base damage.
final stag
You'd likely be much better served with a zarona if you're pacing your shots
It's only in range I pace my shots.
Most of the threats get in your face to begin with. And the agri takes them out quick. But yeah zarona is again arguably more reliable
junior needle
It's not exactly arguable
Being able to ads and precisely hit your targets is a massive bonus
rigid pilot
Honestly from a power player perspective there's zero reason to use Agri over the zarona for vet
junior needle
Mhm, needs some adjustments to make it a more reasonable alternative
rigid pilot
But if you want to use the Agri for fun I still wouldn't spam my shots, against ragers the difference between headshot BP and bodyshots BP is huge
junior needle
The whole gimmick of the gun is to fan
If fanning is not the best way to use it, there's something wrong
rigid pilot
I would say the speedloader lets you spam. It wins zarona in terms of boss dps mainly because of speedloader
junior needle
I said best way, not possible way. You can "spam", but if it's not good in most situations then why bother
You can do better boss dps but like
Boss dps is not worth the large downgrade in terms of handling everything else compared to the zarona
final stag
It can deal with all ogryn enemies effectively as well and like all specialist go down to a headshot or like two bodyshots.
last parcel
a missed shot does emotional damage
junior needle
Ogryns aren't exactly at the top of the list of consistent threats
But yes it's more suited for use on them due to having huge hitboxes, although the zarona is already good for those too
The issue is it's much harder to be precise with the agri's brace compared to the zaronas ads
And then volume of fire becomes not a good alternative either because the precision of the fan isn't good either
You can use it, sure, but the zarona is just much better. You can also consistently reach one shot body breakpoints on it on most targets.
If they moved the fan to the weapon special and gave it ads I'd give it another shot
frank ether
If fanning is not the best way to use it, there's something wrong
yep
if you ask me its just a symptom of terrible braced aim design having zero possible skill ceiling
I go from skill floor to skill ceiling by pressing crouch and gambling correctly
junior needle
A lot of the weapon handling needs work
The recoil not lining up with the sights is especially egregious
unreal bone
somber axle
next week
junior needle
Can't wait for the next helping of slop
tired widget
what is the most optimal playstyle for solo-queuing?
i like to make myself a specialist hunter and have a weakness in horde clearing that my team can cover
i know there arent many veterans who play like this but i cant seem to find success with other styles of play outside malice
junior needle
Needing your team to cover you is not optimal for soloq
All you need to do is pick a good enough melee weapon for chaffe clearing, and then take a hard target weapon like revolver or plasma
tired widget
when i made this choice i figured so many classes are good at horde clearing by default so it wouldnt be a huge issue
junior needle
Assuming your team will be competent and attend to your needs is unwise
tired widget
only sometimes do i get let down but when they do come i wish i had more of a hand in it
junior needle
But you also shouldn't shift the burden onto them to begin with
Tell me what weapons you like
tired widget
i dont know them by name but
my primary is a 2shot rifle and my melee is a charge blade
and krak grenades
junior needle
agri headhunter and the power sword?
tired widget
yeah
junior needle
Agri is the worst headhunter, wouldn't recommend it
tired widget
oh my
junior needle
Power sword can be good for everything provided you have the right blessings
If you do not have the blessings use something else
It always requires a decent amount of competence to use with its poor mobility
tired widget
i use the power sword mainly to stop myself from getting surrounded
of the headhunters theres the 3shot 2shot and 1shot know of
the 3shot used to be my favourite but now it has insane recoil
junior needle
vraks 3 and vraks 7 are both good
tired widget
which ones are those
junior needle
3 and 1 shot respectively
It's strange that you say that, because the vraks 3 has better recoil than the agri
tired widget
i havent tred them recently
but last checked the 3shot had you seeing stars and the 1shot has very low damage potential
like within single bullet it was better obviously but the much smaller magazine made it fall short on high intensity heresy
couldnt even take it into damnation cause everything is so beefy id reload every 3 or 4 kills
junior needle
They're blessing dependent, both of them
But the vraks 3 has very stable recoil
Thing barely moves
For the 7 you want surgical and deadly, and if you have them it becomes quite good
7 is also highly breakpoint dependent, so if you're taking a poorly rolled one you're gonna have a bad time
tired widget
ok 3 is the first one and 7 is the 2shot
junior needle
3 is 3 shot
tired widget
i hate these numbering systems
ok 3 makes sense
so what blessing should be looking for?
gray finch
junior needle
depends on the gun
simple hinge
Why do Krieger skinpack still have bugs? Veteran ones have no tube connected to gas mask, and zealot ones have a bug that makes the candlelight on shoulder plate visible in first person perspective
junior needle
There's a vet guide with generally reliable weapon info in the pins
tired widget
hmmm
wanton dawn
Not fair, no ammo does not count
tired widget
interesting
gray finch
junior needle
He has the scuffed knife with lacerate on it
And no respite on his lasgun
Which does basically nothing because it only works on things that are staggered when being shot
wanton dawn
In other word, skill > build
dusky flare
all three of us in one lobby were just held hostage by an infinite black screen
that's genuinely scuffed
elder fiber
yeah I've had that happen twice in one day, sure hope it gets fixed with next patch
grand perch
Tzeentch 'avin a laugh somewhere
wanton dawn
all three of us in one lobby were just held hostage by an infinite black screen
New darkness modifier not looking lit
tiny summit
New darkness modifier not looking lit
Let the God Emperor guide ye sight
wanton dawn
Let the God Emperor guide ye sight
Faith guides my hand
verbal rivet
black screen is a broken lobby, don't QP if you get one, just manually pick a mission
you might get hot dropped into a black screen lobby by manually picking, in which case you know which mission to avoid when you get back to the mission board
woeful junco
all three of us in one lobby were just held hostage by an infinite black screen
please find the console logs of that session (on your hard drive, <windows account user>\appdata\roaming\fatshark\darktide\console_logs) and DM them to me.
verbal rivet
please find the console logs of that session (on your hard drive, <windows accou...
got a log for you, pal
tame lodge
Me when I play with a beaver
junior needle
Me when I greet my toilet
umbral granite
I think I've officially fallen in love with the demolition team talent... we were getting swarmed by ragers (high intensity shock-troop gauntlet) so i panicked and just threw down 3 frag grenades... and got all my grenades back 5 seconds later because the ragers were all dead...
late hatch
I think its ok, but there is a lot of competition for each point in the tree
hardy ember
Hellguns on the way?
limber lance
Is there any commissar jackets in the files
austere pine
disgusting
tame lodge
Speed
frank monolith
disgusting
that may be me
austere pine
in a match rn
somber axle
Would be a lot funnier as a knife Vet with the speed aura
austere pine
it's a psword
somber axle
Yeah and they're such slow people
Addicted to being fast with knife right now
Also really funny being so speedy on Zealot with the Evis15
Big chonky slab of metal that growls at things and still sprinting faster than the whole team
agile forge
My helbore/shovel build runs close + kill
just because I don't want to pay the point tax to swerve from the right to the left and then back to the right
tame lodge
Big chonky slab of metal that growls at things and still sprinting faster than t...
Add rev it up and become Usain Bolt
hollow ibex
I think I've officially fallen in love with the demolition team talent... we wer...
one of the must-take talents for me
agile forge
Ideally you have either demolition team or that passive grenade regen one at least
it's really sad to have neither and actually be limited on grenades
since it practically means you just have 3 grenades in the whole mission because everyone else's grenades are more valuable
austere pine
demo team competes with far too many good perks for me to want to take and it's a percentage regen which i'm very un-fond of
from the moment i understood the weakness of percentages, they disgusted me
i craved the strength and certainty of time
hadron please. PLEASE
🥲
hadron i swear to you i'm selling you to a techno barbarian gang the first chance i get
low jetty
my melee and range switch build
austere pine
chunky boots with a tank top is a combo i am not happy with
low jetty
wanted to show off them tattoos
agile forge
I'd be tempted to do something similar with a shovel
low jetty
dont have any other outfit to make her look like a catachan
austere pine
ah, catachan vibes is what you're rocking
i know it's a meme with GW but i also sometimes forget the guard isn't just cadia
agile forge
I think my melee build with right keystone will end up being shovel 7 + one of the shotguns, or zarona
austere pine
cadia stands!
low jetty
shovel for my support build
low jetty
cadia stands!
hello Zola imposter
austere pine
"haha zola haircut" my bad it's the only good one in the game
low jetty
yea...im not really into invisible playstyle
austere pine
i'm actually addicted to it
so much more utility with it than voc
sure, voc helps teammates with toughness and dmg, but what's the point if they all suck?
low jetty
Nah, I got the murderstick shovel :D
This shovel is really good for CC
austere pine
i'd rather have a get out of jail free card on hand so i can get out of a shit situation and help teammates from a better position
low jetty
sure, voc helps teammates with toughness and dmg, but what's the point if they a...
that's why im there to help them pick up the pace
no amtter how many smoke i gotta throw
against a barrage of bullets
austere pine
i've recently learned that helping teammates is a death trap
either do it yourself or expect it to not get done
low jetty
trapper and flamer couuple combo
austere pine
(i'm doing an officer vibe with my character and i know this doesn't fit but hey)
flamer doesn't scare me. trapper makes my fight or flight tingle irl
bulwarks, though
frank monolith
no amtter how many smoke i gotta throw
fun fact if all of your squad mate is in the smoke you throw, the gunners will be mind control to walk into you guys
low jetty
fun fact if all of your squad mate is in the smoke you throw, the gunners will b...
"moving into better position"
yea ithats why i like so much
austere pine
funnily enough, @frank monolith, the veteran wasn't even a problem in the whole match
there was a zealot who ended up just perma dying. it felt like a 3-man mission
need to get some clips edited from the match
and from other matches. i've collected some trapper chastisement technique clips
frank monolith
👀 imagine it was my zealot
low jetty
tryign to get a good/decent plasma gun rolls so i can start using this assassin demolition expert build
frank monolith
tryign to get a good/decent plasma gun rolls so i can start using this assassin ...
This is what i run on my plasma vet, melts everything if you want exe stance for some reason you can take killzone, exe, relentless, counter fire and drop desperado only down side is that taking exe makes it so you lose the nades every 30 seconds. but if im having fun i use the other one and pretend to be a squishy zealot with a knife that can actually deal with balwalks efficiently since i use the plasma here aswell xD
wanton dawn
disgusting
I am tempted to try this variation now
vocal jasper
need a lil help, on my old revolver I use the +5 crit chance perks, is that better than the +8 ranged critical hit damage?
analog mural
Both are bad
vocal jasper
what do you use?
I use crit build so the extra 5% crits help to have almost all my shots be crits
elder fiber
you shouldn't need crit chance with surgical
analog mural
Surgical will already guarantee a crit
And Crit damage is bad because it doesn't work how you think it does
vocal jasper
should i up the hand cannon or change the crit hit to unyelding perk
vocal jasper
And Crit damage is bad because it doesn't work how you think it does
since whan Is crit dmg bad what
analog mural
Crit damage is not actually 8/10% additional damage on Crit. It is 10% bonus to the additional Crit damage bonus
So if you do 100 base damage and 150 on a Crit, 10% Crit damage will add 5 extra damage, not 15
Generally better to have a bonus damage against x
vocal jasper
oh, I thought you ment crit dmg as a whole lol
elder fiber
it's not complete shit on weapons with high crit dmg modifier but its really never ideal
vocal jasper
ye that makes sence, im still not sure if I should do +25 unyelding or upgrade the hand cannon tho
analog mural
Well Crit damage as a whole isn't that bad, there are some decent bonuses you can get. But Crit damage weapon perk? Trash
tall torrent
need a lil help, on my old revolver I use the +5 crit chance perks, is that bett...
Swap crit dmg to elite
dreamy spade
...
frank monolith
have knife on as melee, now go zoom and pick up all ammo before anyone else
gray finch
tall torrent
Damage isn't the worse. Everything else is great
plasma wants 78+ in dmg and SP so yea
lyric dock
I see
tame lodge
78? Damn
astral valve
I hate that scoreboard layout so much lol
tame lodge
Lol, it's like looking at a can of beans to see all the properties
astral valve
Power DI for me
last parcel
power diz nuts
crude fiber
what is this? this is supposed to be a dead game
late hatch
what is this? this is supposed to be a dead game
Servers on life support
crude fiber
yeah but what changed
umbral scaffold
vernal harbor
what is this? this is supposed to be a dead game
they sold the extra servers
crude fiber
send help
hybrid token
if i had a nickel for everytime i found a 380 in the shop id have like 7 nickels
if i lost 1 nickel for everytime that 380 was something other than a god damn recon 2
ID STILL HAVE 7 NICKELS
crude fiber
we clutched it up, was monsterous modifier and i had a surge staff. not a great combo
somber axle
if anyone sees a dumb vet running speed aura, krak and lawbringer I'm sorry I'm trying for make every shot count
split sapphire
Anyone got an ideal shovel that would be best on Veteran
late hatch
mk7
slate hawk
MK3 imo
hoary horizon
if anyone sees a dumb vet running speed aura, krak and lawbringer I'm sorry I'm ...
Not think you dumb boss! You use what want. Long as heretic die.
somber axle
I'm very good with the knife but sometimes I feel dumb when I have no ammo and a room full of shooters I should and could clear so much faster
serene bough
back in my day we cheesed that penance
somber axle
yeah but I tried to do it legitimately for a long time even back during the times of camo stance and Vet having like 75% toughness damage reduction in Executioner's Stance and having that just be permanently up during fights
and just never did
stand still and enemies just ignore you forever LMFAO
launch Vet was so broken
rigid pilot
It's John darktide
wanton dawn
Makes me feel better about my playtime
somber axle
at last
I can finally stop griefing quickplay
and go back to clown shenanigans instead
no more speed aura
junior needle
Can't wait for them to add more annoying penances to encourage doing just that
somber axle
keep griefing quickplay
Recon VId time
somber axle
"You want some free cosmetics in this full priced game? Dance for it monkeys"
I want weapon specific penances that have awful difficulties for the final title screen cosmetics
last parcel
tenderise those heretics
past pike
junior needle
I don't want annoying gimmicks in my full price game when helldivers lets me farm premium cosmetics for free
somber axle
Started at the Bottom Now We Back at the Bottom: Use literally nothing but the Mg1a and Starter Shovel on Auric Maelstrom Damnation with no team deaths
junior needle
by playing the game
last parcel
Started at the Bottom Now We Back at the Bottom: Use literally nothing but the M...
gonna blow myself up with a barrel at the end of every game
somber axle
the griefing will continue until morale improves
junior needle
Use the mk2 recon if you really want to grief
austere pine
Can't wait for them to add more annoying penances to encourage doing just that
funnily enough, the few penances that are viable strategies (for example zealot's <1 wound for over 75% of the match under 20 minutes) are locked behind private games
malleus monstorum is also not that bad but its locked behind priv games
somber axle
Use the mk2 recon if you really want to grief
I'm a clown not a waste of space
that's true NPC mode
not even the bots
just literally the guardsmen that stand around and look pretty at the start of some missions
wide cloud
somber axle
I know there's a lot of easy ways to do it
there used to be actual cheese to get it at launch
I refused
it was my own stubborn rule: earn it legitimately or not at all
I needed to do it all in a damnation properly
not just spamming shots into a monstrosity or some assassination shield
I needed to earn it and feel like I earned it to make wearing that helmet with rebreather feel sweeter
and it very much does feel sweeter
wide cloud
True
austere pine
use revolver without the extra 25% ammo and no survivalist
last parcel
not just spamming shots into a monstrosity or some assassination shield
how is this not doing it legitimately
somber axle
use revolver without the extra 25% ammo and no survivalist
originally I wanted to do it with the 25% ammo node and with Mg1a for true Guardsman fantasy
somber axle
how is this not doing it legitimately
spamming shots into a shield is being an active hindrance to the team but it still counts even if it feels really dumb plinking shots off of an assassination target
it just didn't feel legitimate to me
austere pine
legit, shoot dudes with a revolver for an ez completion
somber axle
oh but spamming all my shots into a monstrosity never worked because most teams are competent enough to collectively kill it before you empty every last round
austere pine
and if you're at the end of a mission, just shoot air because youve probably gotten over 90% already
somber axle
legit, shoot dudes with a revolver for an ez completion
revolver, plasma and shotgun were all the guns on my list of guns that would be solid picks to get it without making it torturous
I ended up going with shotgun and lawbringer because I thought lawbringer was literally recon II tier and it became my own personal challenge
and learned that actually lawbringer is pretty good and I was just dumb
digital cairn
Shredder auto pistol imo, as you can mag dump fast on that.
Play an assassinate mission with friends.
Only shoot the monsters and the boss shield.
austere pine
Shredder auto pistol imo, as you can mag dump fast on that.
Play an assassinate...
that's the easy way out, which was expressed by either soldier 69 or sneaky cat (not sure who the first one was) as unwanted
junior needle
It wasn't me
I'm all for bypassing the unnecessary tedium
You can also do the boss mission for it
last parcel
that's the easy way out, which was expressed by either soldier 69 or sneaky cat ...
sneaky is the masochist here
austere pine
veteran is the one class that i feel doesnt need bypasses for penances
because zealot with killing 40 stunned enemies in 10s is crazy to me
300s of full charge on psyker is wild
and ogryn is ogryn, one i dont play
sleek garden
because zealot with killing 40 stunned enemies in 10s is crazy to me
i did this but i forgot how
i think it was a catachan sword
austere pine
flamer this, flamer that. enemies are all around and i simply cant get them all in 10s
sleek garden
i've been trying to make the thunder hammer work
i dont want to use the sneaky build for boss one shottingt
i do like how it has so much impact im throwing around crushers and maulers on light attacks
but the powered attack doesnt do the damage i imagined it would
at least not up front
i can get a fair amount if i dodge and hit someone in the back of the head but im not one shotting all the things
and not being able to block or dodge after a powered attack is brutal still because i keep forgetting i shouldnt use powered attacks in a horde scenario
dusty nacelle
300s of full charge on psyker is wild
it's surprisingly easy as long as u don't ult
since it's just throughout the whole match and u only lose 1 stack at a time
i have no idea about the stunned enemies one tho it sounds like grenades might make that really easy if they count
cuz enemies also just counts poxwalkers and stuff right?
austere pine
i have no idea about the stunned enemies one tho it sounds like grenades might m...
you stun them with the grenades, your own grenades
@sleek garden which hammer you using? they deal radically different amounts of damage on specials
do you have thrust on the hammer?
somber axle
sneaky is the masochist here
yeah I am
but also it was definitely worth just to learn Lawbringer Shotgun is also very fun
dusty nacelle
you stun them with the grenades, your own grenades
ooh that might be a little harder then ya
ig it's just wait for a big horde to show up and then just stun grenade and flamer or crusher or something
austere pine
its a thing you need to pray for and beg teammates to leave
somber axle
300s of full charge on psyker is wild
wdym just use purgatus
austere pine
i been using purgatus and surge but it aint workin
somber axle
huh
last parcel
ngl i got that just by forgetting that i had an ability
austere pine
at 222
somber axle
I followed advice from the psyker channel and got it first try
idk what the advice was though
I just vaguely remember purgatus
somber axle
ngl i got that just by forgetting that i had an ability
it might've just been this and use purgatus tbh
dusty nacelle
i still have the clip of when i first got warp battery
digital cairn
Get an ogryn buddy with a shield and some curios for blocking.
Play the forge mission.
Have them stand at the alcove at the end of the mission tanking.
Build up a good swarm of chaff.
Stun them grenades on them, then burn them with flamer.
That's how I did it and got it for a couple of friends
austere pine
Get an ogryn buddy with a shield and some curios for blocking.
Play the forge m...
failed at first step
digital cairn
Having friends is meta
austere pine
really though
grand perch
Just press "merge strike teams" at the end of a mission and let go of all aspirations to ever make friends or a human connection as they awkwardly wait for the timer to expire so they can flee
final locust
that new cosmetic set in the store for vet is quite cool
so is the single helmet
a full set of snow camo like that would be pretty cool
chilly sparrow
got the Overwatch penance today without even trying that much, but I had to do another mission just to get the no health damage penance
chilly sparrow
i **been** using purgatus and surge but it aint workin
Purgatus, brain burst/assail, select every node on the talent tree that Mentions soulblaze and go into a high specialist intensity mission
also venting shriek
wanton plume
what's the important stats and dump stats for Columnus MK V autogun?
trim hemlock
what's the important stats and dump stats for Columnus MK V autogun?
Damage, Stopping Power and Stability are important. Mobility and Ammo - less so, especially Mobility (high ammo is nice, but the ammo base for this gun is so high it barely makes a difference)
austere pine
what's the important stats and dump stats for Columnus MK V autogun?
always mobility dump stat
wanton plume
aight
trim hemlock
Upgrade acquired 
Don't mind the Devstrike, I put it on to avoid it rolling in the 2nd blessing slot
agile forge
Cleave: yes.
balmy flume
failed at first step
Use LFG channels and specify your needs
balmy flume
veteran is the one class that i feel doesnt need bypasses for penances
(Quietly confesses to the sin of cheesing Make Every Shot Count back in the earliest days of the game)
grand perch
i did and no regrets or shame
especially at the time when you were forced to have survivalist, the challenge was just designed to be completely backwards to having constant ammo regen
i remember doing it once legitimately only to fail because after the boss some shotgunners spawned and i was juuust in range to regen like 2 bullets from their kill
i still think it forces you to be a worse teammate
vivid silo
what's the important stats and dump stats for Columnus MK V autogun?
Ammo for the Mk V goes from 50/500 (0%) to 60/600 (100%). Realistically you are looking at values between 50% and 80%, where the difference is 55/550 - 58/580 in practice. More or less unnoticeable. I want to say I would prefer Ammo as a dump-stat over Mobility, but the spread for Mobility is also very small so it's moot. Either works (or a combination of both being semi-dumped).
wanton plume
what's the difference between catachan MK VI combat blade and MK III combat blade?
wanton plume
Ammo for the Mk V goes from 50/500 (0%) to 60/600 (100%). Realistically you are ...
noted
dire olive
what's the difference between catachan MK VI combat blade and MK III combat blad...
Just the attack patterns, Mk III has stabby overhead heavies and the VI has sweep heavies with a little cleave
wanton plume
ah
agile forge
VI gets a decent push attack combo for single target iirc
dire olive
Same special attack, slightly different push attacks, III slashes down, VI stabs forward
wanton plume
aight
dire olive
Pick your preference basically
hollow ibex
mk3 - light attack spam for hordes, heavies for single target
mk6 - light-heavy for hordes, push attack for single target
mk6 is prob the better one for psyker, but on vet, it's personal pref
wanton plume
i feels like a ninja using MK3 xd
limber lance
Picture of vet gear?
slow spade
Picture of vet gear?
💪💪💪
serene bough
in general both combat knives hit the 1HKO on a lot of priority targets like dogs, flamers, and trappers
so they'er both good picks, just bring uncanny strikes
trim hemlock
Plasma, Zarona Revolver, Columnus Infantry Autogun, Helbro lasguns, Bolt gun to an extent
Like 2.5, if you place your shots right
It's good versus Maulers, just not like 20 of them at the same time lol
Well, what of it? I do not test killtimes with things - if you want to look and see, see for yourself in the Psykhanium.
Columnus can probably kill more Maulers per magazine, if you have crit support and don't excessively hit their heads
hearty panther
tbh Plasma and Helbore are the only real two answers. Zarona partially so, but you only get five rounds, so enemy numeracy becomes an issue.
Plasma and Helbore (excepting the II somewhat) hit everything with extreme force and prejudice. There's not a single armor type that they are bad against.
wanton dawn
The only target against which plasma is "mid" is boss
But it has bulwark shield pen, which is a big deal
tall torrent
Plasma and Helbore (excepting the II somewhat) hit everything with extreme force...
Mk2 only has a few worse breakpoints than Mk1 but shoots quite a bit faster
hearty panther
III is slowest to fire, II is fastest, I is dead center of the pack. All do more or less damage per shot based on that charge.
wanton dawn
3 has crappy bayonet
hearty panther
god yea it does
tall torrent
What difficulty are u mainly playing rn
gray finch
as soon as yuo got helbore unlock you can start carring with a veteran on damnations
wanton dawn
Heresy is the hardest low level gate
hearty panther
Heresy is the gate
wanton dawn
Huge increase in enemy health, caparace patrol at a time where you lack proper stuff to counter them, lowish average skill cuz lot of ppl goes directly to damn
hearty panther
I honestly recommend you just don't with Heresy.
tall torrent
Are u trying to use gun mainly from not being used to melee mechanics, or just a matter of preference
hearty panther
Just go over it, hit your head against the wall that is Damnation instead, because Dammation is the last level where you need to learn/relearn breakpoints and habits.
tall torrent
I honestly recommend you just *don't* with Heresy.
Heresy’s unique mission modifier: heretic within (ur teammates are throwing)
somber axle
damnation quickplay is sometimes legitimately easier than heresy quickplay just because the team has zero awareness and will vacuum up resources every time
escort mission modifier
hearty panther
its just a mentality thing. players in heresy are just two categories -- still learning, or failing to learn
hearty panther
if you're still learning you should really just go for broke in damnation. the game is not really that punishing and it's the only way you will actually get better at playing damnation
frank basin
i went damnation on level 30
since i was in malice around 15-29
and stayed there for few day
on max level
decide go try damnation
it aint bad
frank basin
what now
wanton dawn
(soz for the @) it was not intended
frank basin
(soz for the @) it was not intended
an update today?
tall torrent
ok prob helbore / plasma if you're good at precise headshot 1 hit kills, or columnus mk5 if u favor automatic recoil control
wanton dawn
Cool, we can change prison suit. I will be able to make a christmas lutin prisoner with green and red now
frank basin
RAAAAARGH GRAIA BRACED AUTOGUN
frank basin
Cool, we can change prison suit. I will be able to make a christmas lutin prison...
and i can fix my name i mistaken named
woohoo
tall torrent
plasma has the best firing uptime out of all ranged weapons
just don't use charged shots
wanton dawn
Dikrot number will hopefully be reduced
last parcel
dicks out for hadron
frank basin
Hardon wll enchanch your Dickot the destroyer
copper barn
dicks out for hadron
sleek garden
<@218901223317700608> which hammer you using? they deal radically different amou...
I forgot the name but it's the single head hammer
sleek garden
The one that doesn't cleave a little dude on a powered swing
last parcel
crucis
frank basin
crucis has smaller head
limber lance
Been using this build for a few weeks, fun being able to rush in front line kill gunners and ogryn's. Anyone want to give it a go. Looking for feedback to make any improvements i might have missed.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb51ac8-72c6-4a70-a14b-63daf47d0c4e/commissar-11
frank basin
ironhelm has bigger head
sleek garden
I see
frank basin
you can feel the swing of the crucis swing light wieght
limber lance
I guess its a swap build
last parcel
Been using this build for a few weeks, fun being able to rush in front line kill...
how often do you find skirmisher helping? i usually run trench fighter drill on these types of builds
limber lance
how often do you find skirmisher helping? i usually run trench fighter drill on ...
Its nice when running longer then 20 feet, its either that or 10% akt spd
limber lance
Its nice when running longer then 20 feet, its either that or 10% akt spd
I suppose a question would be would 10% atk be more dps in the long run
wanton dawn
Been using this build for a few weeks, fun being able to rush in front line kill...
I use something similar:
I use PS/Plasma on this so I don't take rending
limber lance
I use something similar:
I'll save this, and try it after work
limber lance
I use PS/Plasma on this so I don't take rending
Yeah, revolver here for the quick 100% crit shot swap and for commissar larping
wanton dawn
The goal of this build was to abuse agile engagement
I have 3 versions, one for each aura
dreamy spade
Agile engagement is mandatory on every build
hearty panther
-slowly pulls out helbore-
gonna do this with so much fukken agility
wanton dawn
-slowly pulls out helbore-
gonna do this with so much fukken agility
Hellbore is a special case due to special
tame lodge
I'd say a poorly optimized dclaw, more because those lights would take forever to kill
sinful jacinth
I just use a shotgun or something punchy. Kill one with range and swap back to melee quickly.
wanton dawn
plasma is great for agile
sinful jacinth
That for sure.
wanton dawn
Who would think a 100 cleave high damage quick swap weapon with 40 load in the mag would be good for agile
tame lodge
I just use a shotgun or something punchy. Kill one with range and swap back to m...
The kantrael is a monster
wanton dawn
I see kantrael once in a blue moon though
sinful jacinth
I use it. 2 tap elites and special shells for bulwarks. And shoot randomly into horde then swap to melee.
tall torrent
I'd say a poorly optimized dclaw, more because those lights would take forever t...
DC primarily uses heavy atks for dmg
tame lodge
Yup
But since it's hard to find a melee weapon for "slow engagement" might as well pick one that you can take forever to kill
wanton dawn
Just agile things
tame lodge
Me fighting the "don't shoot the horde with a plasma" mentality so I can enjoy WS
wanton dawn
Actually to benefit the most from agile shooting at horde might be the right play sometimes
tame lodge
💯
I got too used on saving ammo for elites and specials with the other play styles
Braced Graia Mk IV used to be my weapon for WS
Ammo for days
dreamy spade
bruh
bloodthirsty is shit especially with low shredder
and unarmoured isnt great on chainaxe
wanton dawn
I am the one that does not collect any of the materials
gray finch
and still outdamaging them somehow
gray finch
what?
wanton dawn
i almost killed 1m dude
gray finch
about time
umbral flower
https://www.playdarktide.com/news/dev-blog-hold-your-breath-and-clear-your-mind
This update will toxic haha
last parcel
umbral flower
last parcel
agile pp
tall torrent
It's free crit
On a weapon with mediocre finesse it’s not very good lol
frank ether
are we talking about chaxe mk4?
it has two perfectly good power blessings hard to go wrong with them
wanton dawn
you let them get some kills too thats nice of you
That's why i take smoke
astral scarab
What’s the best roll for auto pistol
frank ether
That's why i take smoke <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
oh you're actually using smoke lmao
astral scarab
Asking for a friend
wanton dawn
I know the build is busted, but I have a lot of fun with it atm
wanton dawn
Not my fault plasma is the best ranged for agile
frank ether
I think its the best ranged weapon period
I find it kinda funny that
they deemed high swap time neccessary for helbores and bolter
wanton dawn
Eh, I prefer bolter in fog
frank ether
but for plasma its like, pretty fast you know
it looks like a pretty bulky gun but I wouldn't know I'm no warhammer nerd
astral scarab
Gria braced autogun with frags
Horde clearer build
wanton dawn
(also smoke is great in this build so it is not a troll pick)
frank ether
I don't think smoke is bad anymore
It just sits in a bad place on the tree
but depending on what kinda build fantasy you go for it could be good too I guess
Idk I feel like...
vet grenade choice probably should have been more flexible
lyric dock
I don't think smoke is bad anymore
Smoke is fine. Just the most situational. When it works. It god damn works
tame lodge
On a weapon with mediocre finesse it’s not very good lol
I really need to put my hands on those hard to know modifier
frank ether
Smoke is fine. Just the most situational. When it works. It god damn works
Smoke's problem is it existing in the same game as psyker bubble, that was always its real issue.
So after the buff it kinda practically does the same thing anyhow
lyric dock
Not every game is gonna have a bubble psyker
But it does suck, but at the same time. It gives a fall back as well incase the shield pops really fast due to gunner spam And no one isn't fucking dealing with them FOR THE LOVE GOD SHOOT THE DAMN GUNNERS
neon estuary
got a question for plasma gun, whats the best blessings for it?
limber lance
But it does suck, but at the same time. It gives a fall back as well incase the ...
On my melee vet and zealot i charge the gunner lines before they get setup
wanton dawn
got a question for plasma gun, whats the best blessings for it?
get hot, blaze. Some swap blaze for the thoughness regen on elite kill
I miss 250 kills
lyric dock
On my melee vet and zealot i charge the gunner lines before they get setup
I just wish for more people to deal with gunners ASAP instead of trusting it on 1 person. I seen so many downs that could been avoid if people would have dealt with the gunners quickly (Outside of bullshit trapper downs and Dog downs)
limber lance
I miss 250 kills <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
What do you mean?
wanton dawn
limber lance
I just wish for more people to deal with gunners ASAP instead of trusting it on ...
Well the whole game is quickly assessing what is priority
neon estuary
i think i should recommend putting a range weak spot perk on it because its really useful for the plasma gun
wanton dawn
i think i should recommend putting a range weak spot perk on it because its real...
no
neon estuary
why not?
wanton dawn
weakspot and crit damage are bad perk
lyric dock
Because it Sucks
neon estuary
doesn't seem sucked to me
wanton dawn
Because you don't realize how it works
lyric dock
Mostly because it has shit modifiers
limber lance
Your kinda going center mass with plasma anyway?
wanton dawn
Let's put it that way: weakspot mod on plasma increase your dmg on weakspot by a WHOPPING !!!
2.5%
limber lance
Plasma has cleve?
ebon cove
Should I buy this for veteran?
limber lance
Only used it a few times, i tried to aim for large amounts of enemies
lyric dock
Plasma is my go to "Fuck everything that isn't a fodder enemy" gun
neon estuary
i'll give it a try and see how it goes
terse idol
Plasma just is abitt op
lyric dock
I expect a few weapons to get adjustments come the next update. Now comes to part we pray they don't gut the weapons to be useless
tiny summit
doesn't seem sucked to me
Slapping a shitty dmg perk on a good weapon isn't gonna suck. You're just missing out on actual more dmg on a weapon that already does a lot of dmg.
lyric dock
Plasma really wants to kill things with as few shots as possible (Same to be said for all the weapons) and Plasma is quite a ammo hungry weapon
pale rapids
Is plasma not the meta anymore!
lyric dock
Plasma is very meta
But depending on how the patch go
That statement is up for debate
frank monolith
Plasma is very meta
if zealots can have this it will be the best class xD
slow spade
Plasma gets assail tracking now
lyric dock
if zealots can have this it will be the best class xD
Even more reasons for me to stick with primary ammo efficient weapons. Even more "No ammo pickup" on legs
tall torrent
got a question for plasma gun, whats the best blessings for it?
gets hot first priority
then either gloryhunter or blaze away
neon estuary
idk why blaze away is on 3rd level instead of forth
neon estuary
i rather stick with the power sword for cleave damage against horded enemies
wanton dawn
There, I got the 1m skull by stabbing a dog in the face with a bayonet
tame lodge
A fair kill
somber axle
I forgot how fun the shotguns were
Agripina build to one tap heads on everything short of Maulers and Crushers
😌
serene bough
Id use shotguns if they had a drum mag
Can't stand single loading shell after shell
last parcel
somber axle
That's fair
I love the Agripina for the special shot slug. Constantly reloading the slug makes it feel like a bolt action rifle with how crazy accurate and strong it feels
Plus it's funny for bullying Crushers
hollow ibex
https://tenor.com/view/onehit-tryhard-gif-24675955
literally me when i play agri
fr fr
(including the part where i get fucking blasted off the map)
sullen scarab
I had +Unarmored on here and changed it out for +Flak, did I make a mistake lol. I kind of wanted Unyielding for slapping big boys.
somber axle
(including the part where i get fucking blasted off the map)
Nurgle sending his most silent poxburster on the perfect run to throw you off the map. Nurgle is a bowling master
polar kayak
lucky day! does everyone get this or is it just me?
last parcel
just you
chilly sparrow
Trying to get the make every shot count penance, any tips?
fresh jungle
Trying to get the make every shot count penance, any tips?
Use plasma, shoot charged shots into hordes (because charged shots are very ammo inefficient). It doesn't have the shotgun's spread, but you have to get through way fewer shots to run out of ammo
sinful jacinth
Trying to get the make every shot count penance, any tips?
Use a melee build. Get a bolter and unload it on an ogryn or monstrosity. Then use your melee for the rest of the game. Don't swap back.
Even if you regen ammo. If you don't swap back, you will get it.
polar kayak
wow it's my lucky day, i hope these roll well
tall torrent
lucky day! does everyone get this or is it just me?
For stamina u want 76 rating or higher, otherwise it’s actually 2 stamina in live games
polar kayak
omg... 
got scammed by fatshark
not my lucky day, back to bein a loser and grinding 🥹
tame lodge
For stamina u want 76 rating or higher, otherwise it’s actually 2 stamina in liv...
How does that even work lmao
But fr
How
terse idol
How
The game works in decimal values
So it seems like the rating increases or decreases specific ratings based on the rating on the curiooo
somber axle
Trying to get the make every shot count penance, any tips?
If you want to do it very easily queue for an assassination mission then grab something like shredder autopistol and use melee exclusively through most of the mission. Pick up no ammo. Do not run Ammo Regen aura. Use speed aura or elite 5% damage aura. Mag dump into the first Plogryn, Chaos Spawn or Burgle you see. If you still have ammo at the end magdump into the final boss.
You can also just do quickplay with revolver, shotgun, plasma, etc. and play a mission like normal without Ammo Regen aura and no ammo pick ups if you are careful with your shots
Also grab shredder grenades or krak and pick up 1 min nade regen and the % chance to get back grenades on special/elite kill in the talent tree. Get grenade tinkerer too to buff your nades more. It'll make melee feel better if you're not wanting to play entirely like a weaker Zealot
Last tip I have is if you have lots of dockets laying around play slot machine with brunt's and aim for a low ammo stat on a low ammo count weapon like revolver or shotgun to make it so you have less shots to worry about
Also be mindful of team mates nearby because if you're about to shoot something and the Gunker or Revolver Zealot drops the target 0.1 seconds before you fire you will be mad at them even though they did nothing wrong
Krak vs Shredder depends on how comfy you are with melee and what melee weapons you want to take. If you've got a good weapon for special/elite kills including something you are confident taking into melee against Crushers and Maulers then go Shredder for easy wave clear and to make breathing room if you need to revive a team mate. If you don't like the idea of needing to stab or swing your way through a Crusher pack or just really hate going melee against Bulwarks then grab Krak instead
somber axle
OH ALSO
Ignore bottom left side of the talent tree for the most part and invest more into bottom right to make melee feel better on Vet. You definitely want things like Desperado and Reciprocity. Weapon Specialist is good too. Don't get the +30% ammo node on the bottom left. I know that seems obvious but I played a bunch of matches before remembering the +30% ammo node even exists
Also this is gonna be a weird take but do Make Every Shot Count on Damnation because players are more competent there and you'll run into crazy good players more often who could solo carry a mission if they had to. It'll feel less punishing to both you and to your team when you're purposely running melee Vet and not touching your ranged weapon when you have a solid team vs Heresy people who tend to either be newer players or still learning the game. More people will be max level with full builds and maxed out weapons on Damnation
tall torrent
How does that even work lmao
it just works that way rn
tame lodge
somber axle
OH ONE MORE THING
Only node on the bottom left talent tree I would say is 100% required (depending on weapon) is suppression immunity. If your gun shakes right before you shoot and throws it into the abyss because a shooter you didn't see across the map fired at you, you will be mad
Some weapons have built in suppression immunity though so your mileage will vary
hybrid drum
If you want to do it very easily queue for an assassination mission then grab so...
I was just about to ask for tips on this penance, this is so helpful thank you
somber axle
Welcomes! I did it recently and it is a pain even with all these tips
stable socket
if your aim is bad (like mine), hipfired kantrael shotgun is also good
~70 shots that are very difficult to miss because as long as you clip an enemy with one pellet it counts as a hit
hybrid drum
i heard the kantrael was bugged?
stable socket
i just got my penance an hour ago with kantrael shotgun
hybrid drum
i'd been running revolver which has been a nightmare
stable socket
it's possible that it might be bugged, but if so i didn't run into it
hybrid drum
it's worth trying, i'm just trying to figure out which part of my build has me regenning ammo still 😦
iron marten
shit, rip one dodge
midnight totem
Might be a friendly vet with ammo aura
hybrid drum
oh you're so right
midnight totem
I got that penance with a plasma gun
Be advised shooting into a Bulwark Shield counts as a miss
hybrid drum
yeah i've heard, i've been avoiding them
midnight totem
Also, maybe final boss Shield too, not sure about that
stable socket
i think (but am not 100% sure) that you need to see a white, orange or red hit marker for a round to be considered a hit
if it's blue, it may not be counted (although i think in the case of shooting through an ally with a cleaving shot to hit something on the other side, the hit marker will be blue but it should count?)
supple stag
Oh I gotta do that penance finally
I also was thinking about an exe stance build, but I have no idea what weapon could benefit nicely from it, while not being bolter or plasma
junior needle
Exe is not very good currently
Even those weapons would ideally want to run voc
Exe can give you a faster pullout on bolter but
somber axle
I also was thinking about an exe stance build, but I have no idea what weapon co...
Executioner's Stance ends up being really fun on things like the Infantry Lasguns, Laspistol and Shotguns but has very little purpose on the heavier hitters like Columnus Infantry Autogun, Revolver or Plasma. Since Kantrael XII, IV and Mg1a are all generally ranked waaaaay below the meta picks for high difficulties Exe Stance ends up being not worth. Laspistol is good if you can consistently click heads and there's a talent set up to even make it ok-ish on armour (still gets blown out of the water by meta weapons most times). Plus Voice of Command is just that much strong for personal survivability and team survivability that it sorta dwarfs the other options. If you're looking for optimal or meta you'll always get recommended the big three (CIAG, Revolver, Plasma) and Voice of Command but tbh you can kinda run whatever you want on Damnation and make it work fine. I do Recon IVd Exe Stance with no keystone because I am a clown and I win matches on Damnation consistently even with that. You can kinda do whatever you think is fun but performance-wise other Vets will outpace you generally pursuing fun over function
Don't get me wrong I still run Kantrael XII Exe Stance sometimes but it's clearly behind Mg1a and IV, and waaaay behind the meta weapons. Still performs fine tbh and can do crazy damage with good aim
OH I ALMOST FORGOT
Headhunter Autoguns are good with Exe Stance Marksman's Focus too but your survivability will be way below another Vet using Voice of Command
dusky flare
The accatran laspistol isn't a precision weapon, you really don't need to click heads.
somber axle
Iirc it has a really good finesse modifier yeah? So much better damage clicking heads. You can still make it work with sheer volume of fire though spamming shots down range at things and probably barely notice a difference in TTK for a lot of the softer targets, most specials included
Mk II is funny like that for how much DPS it can output for such a dinky little pistol
junior needle
The accatran laspistol isn't a precision weapon, you really don't need to click ...
The laspistols are very much precision weapons
massive finesse modifiers
dusky flare
It's weakspot modifier is good, but it's crit modifier is absurd. Precision weapons need consistency above all else, that's why everything with surgical ends up becoming a precision weapon. Laspistols only crit 45% of the time, so time spent lining up headshots is generally wasted since your ttk is still at the mercy of crit rng, which is why it tends to becomes a volume shooter instead. Headshots do improve ammo econ but not tkk very greatly.
junior needle
You are mistaken
dusky flare
Of course, if you're argument is use aimbot, then it's a "precision weapon". but in practice it doesn't need to be at all. At least for the accatran, the kantrael definitely has a stronger argument.
junior needle
Even if the crit values are a bit better, you still want to go for weakspot hits, and weakspot crits do even more damage
Weakspot hits are consistent with your aim
Crits are pure rng
And the gun does very dinky damage without either crits or weakspots
tiny summit
It's weakspot modifier is good, but it's crit modifier is absurd. Precision weap...
only 45% crit talking like thats a problem lmao
the game is very generous clicking heads. No one needs a aimbot
junior needle
While you can slide by using bodyshots, it's substantially less efficient across every metric to just not bother aiming for the head when it has at least a 2.27 weakspot modifier
Which unusually seems to vary between armor types
dusky flare
*only 45% crit* talking like thats a problem lmao
It is a problem if you actually try to consistently get one shots. To me a precision weapon kills if i land the hit, simple as that. If it only kills less than half the time, that's a volume weapon.
junior needle
There seems to be a big misunderstanding in terminology
Precision overwhelmingly refers to headshot oriented weapons
Not simply "1hko" ones
dusky flare
doesn't have to be ohko, it can be xhko, but it still only kills in x hits sometimes
that's the difference.
tiny summit
It is a problem if you actually try to consistently get one shots. To me a preci...
are you worrying about 1 click headshots? we are saying going for heads while still clicking as fast as possible still. As in...have good aim which is doable on the weapon with innate suppression resist, fast fire rate, low recoil and high finesse
junior needle
Hard to apply that to a system with crits
While obviously without surgical you can't guarantee certain breakpoints
That doesn't mean aiming for the head isn't massively beneficial on a laspistol
tiny summit
like not clicking heads leaves a lot of dmg on the table.
junior needle
You may not like the inconsistency of not having exact breakpoints all the time, but that doesn't make it not a precision weapon
At least, with common usage of the term
dusky flare
Hard to apply that to a system with crits
But it's not the crit system, it's inherent to the weapon. If the base crit mod and rate were to be toned down, with compensatory buffs to base damage, then it would become a precision weapon. Because it would always hit breakpoints with weakspots. Currently it fails to hit said breakpoints.
tiny summit
like the laspistol is more of a precision weapon vs a "volume" weapon than any braced autos
its a precision weapon because to make the most of it, you should be going for heads. brautos? who gives a shit
junior needle
That's your particular usage of the term, which is not consistent with what the vast majority of other people are referring to
tiny summit
saying a weapon doesnt meet bps with its weakspot hits...doesnt remove the fact it hits A LOT harder aiming for heads vs not
junior needle
Mhm, it is a weapon that massively benefits from weakspot hits
dusky flare
But hitting a lot harder sometimes doesn't change ttk
junior needle
And is very good at doing it with its low recoil
tiny summit
But hitting a lot harder sometimes doesn't change ttk
kinda can a lot of times and you're not giving up anything not aiming for heads
junior needle
Just because it sometimes doesn't change the shots on some targets (which can depend on your setup) doesn't mean it's not generally good to aim for the head
It is a lot of added value
dusky flare
You're literally giving up time and effort in exchange for ammo when hitting heads.
somber axle
Tbh clicking heads isn't as hard as it seems. Aim head height at even a crowd of charging ragers amidst a horde of poxwalkers and you'll generally more often than not land your headshots on them as they come
dusky flare
it's not free
tiny summit
You're literally giving up time and effort in exchange for ammo when hitting hea...
lol lmao even
dusky flare
I never said it couldn't be used to hit heads, but it doesn't have to hit heads to be good
somber axle
Aiming chest level is good if you're still learning aim and get caught in a panic moment where it's more important to react than to worry about what exactly you're hitting on target
junior needle
Not hitting heads substantially reduces your overall performance
tiny summit
"time and effort" aiming shoulder height that most enemies sit at, with a near 99% of the enemy cast not vertically mobile
junior needle
It's a gun that does 2x or more damage on a headshot
somber axle
Like panic spamming shots into a trapper that was 100% silent until it suddenly appeared winding up a shot at you or a team mate
tiny summit
I never said it couldn't be used to hit heads, but it doesn't have to hit heads ...
that doesnt make it not a precision weapon