one more question, would u recommend hit & run blessing to pair with dance of death
#veteran-class
tall torrent
umbral scaffold
hey me (again) so i have playd more lvl 30 now and was wondering if any one can recomend a build id prefer a more solo focusd build wiht sustane and focus on ranged damge
tall torrent
hey me (again) so i have playd more lvl 30 now and was wondering if any one can ...
What kind of weapons do u want to play
umbral scaffold
tbh im not fully sure most funn i had so far wehre the full automatic guns
tall torrent
Columnus Mk5 infantry autogun maybe
umbral scaffold
stuff like taht ya
also as im super new i wanted too ask is it just me or do the purple talents of the veteran all sound kinda bad?
tall torrent
also as im super new i wanted too ask is it just me or do the purple talents of ...
Not really, you can check out my guide pinned in this channel
Goes fairly in depth into what each of the talents do, and has detailed breakdowns for every weapon accessible to Veteran
tall torrent
You could try a template like this, 5 points left for u to spend on things u like
Also, what difficulty are u mainly playing rn
serene bough
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2410061757595517827/63A7E4107A861866539BB977D38A34CBA94DF5AA/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false today i learned theres a special inspect animation for the knife
hollow ibex
knife gets all the cool animations
umbral scaffold
You could try a template like this, 5 points left for u to spend on things u lik...
tahts very simular too waht i have curently i just used waht sounds good^^
tame lodge
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2410061757595517827/63A7E4107A8618665...
Found it by accident
junior needle
also as im super new i wanted too ask is it just me or do the purple talents of ...
Ping can be bound to your left click for ez one button proccing, but yeah all the vet keystones requiring some kind of adjustment in playstyle for use
It's perfectly fine to not use any of them
final stag
Left click? That's a wild place to put a ping button.
final stag
If your mouse has side buttons put them their if not, your scroll wheel can also be pressed down instead of scrolled. You can bind it to those to not inevitably annoy your teammates when you fire.
junior needle
The alternative is to press 2 buttons every time you shoot an elite/special
The issue with that is you still have to press 2 buttons
final stag
I've never had those issues. And I would never bind my ping button to my shooting button. Especially when so many weapons are single firing
junior needle
Blame fartshark for making it like this, I don't want to make the ping sound constantly but I'm just not gonna use it if I have to manually ping everything 
serene bough
LMB ping is the ultimate troll
junior needle
Thankfully I use autofire for most semis
final stag
It's not even that hard bfbdb like cheap gaming mouses for ten bucks or the scroll wheel lolol
junior needle
Yeah I have a gaming mouse, I just don't want to press multiple buttons every time
serene bough
for a second i thought bfbdb was some new acronym
final stag
It really isn't that difficult to press a single button
final stag
Well I still wouldn't recommend to players to bind ping to LMB, just a wild place to put it. Since you have the auto fire mod you do you.
junior needle
Many players already do this
Especially easy for use with automatics
Again, blame fatshark for poor mechanical design if they don't want people bypassing tedium
And then making it the best generalist keystone
final stag
I know more players who dislike the LMB ping debate.
Pings are in alot of games and honest fatshark made their pings easy
junior needle
They can turn off ping sounds
In the options
Just like I can turn on one button ping
in the options
final stag
Just annoying to see flashing colors or worse
When people spam ping when shooting at a target
junior needle
This is fair, I understand the point
final stag
It's actually mind bogglingly annoying
junior needle
What I'm saying is fatshark encourages this with their design
final stag
I wouldn't say encourages it since it's super easy to just bind it to a side button or scroll wheel
junior needle
Side buttons are defaulted to other things, and ping is already on the scroll wheel
final stag
Like your thumb is naturally resting on the side of a mouse so side buttons aren't that hard
junior needle
I think you are missing the point
Oh excuse me, dodge isn't bound to side button by default
Or is it
final stag
It isn't
junior needle
It's on space with jump, which is dumb
junior needle
Weapon special is a side button by default I'm pretty sure
final stag
Yeah
junior needle
But dodge should be on the side button
final stag
I still use space but put my jump and mantle somewhere else
junior needle
But anyway, the issue isn't easy access to keys for pinging
final stag
It's annoying to jump when dodging and get killed
junior needle
That has nothing to do with it
The issue is having to click an extra time for every elite/special
To get value from your keystone
People, me included, often find it tedious and either don't use it or do that workaround
final stag
It really still isn't that difficult you just say it is. Probably the most simplest thing is to unbind weapon specials. Most weapon specials aren't particularly good.
junior needle
As I said
It's not difficult, it's tedious and annoying for many
It doesn't matter how easy to access the buttons are
final stag
And I gave my argument that people without auto fire make it annoying
junior needle
I agree, and they should try to be considerate about it
final stag
Most pain I've played in a game are with people without that mod and binded their ping button to shooting.
junior needle
But the root of the problem is the mechanical design fatshark chose
stuck kite
I ping enemies because it's an eyesight accessibility issue for me (but only when it's something I'm gonna kill or make aware of for the team eg. Patrol or elites near downed ppl)
Also because my Vet build gives that damage boost
junior needle
As long as it's like that, it's going to be like that
stuck kite
But yeah my ping is MMB, never gonna spam it on enemies with the shoot button
junior needle
Single shots that one tap are also easy to use for left click ping
final stag
I still wouldn't blame fatshark, it isn't a mechanical issue. But I can see how it could get annoying.
MMB or side buttons if you have em.
junior needle
The cause of the whole issue we're discussing is the mechanical design
Other keystones just work passively
Vet comparatively needs the song and dance
void rampart
Like your thumb is naturally resting on the side of a mouse so side buttons aren...
the pain of being left handed, gotta make the extra button press anyways 
final stag
the pain of being left handed, gotta make the extra button press anyways <:Guard...
That is actually pain I'm sorry for your loss/win
void rampart
1000 hours of Vermintide baked keyboard pings into me anyways, wouldn't have it any other way
junior needle
Pretty sure left handed mice get made
void rampart
They do, but just not this one and I like this one
final stag
I can understand that. But I still would recommend players without mods to just put their ping on MMB or side buttons over LMB, hell I'd recommend RMB over LMB
junior needle
That's fair, it's hard to find a particular mouse shape/weight that feels good
void rampart
what ranged weapon compliments a full full melee build on Vet
junior needle
revolver
void rampart
my broke ass still stuck with the Mk 14
junior needle
14?
final stag
Agri?
void rampart
You should be able to get zarona easy
I had the same thought last time I tried this
junior needle
Ciag is also overtuned enough to use it gray and talentless
void rampart
It's the only weapon my vet is still missing
final stag
Agri is okay you really have to build around that gun over the zarona which performs good at any level
final stag
It's the only weapon my vet is still missing
You can go to brunt and buy one
void rampart
got a good collection of just about every other gun in the damn game
bruh I know I can buy one
I got shitty luck
final stag
Keep buying them 😈
void rampart
fixable?
tall torrent
fixable?
Usable
But Zarona has very specific requirements (on veteran)
Maniac + elite
Surgical + hand cannon
tall torrent
I rolled a 543 plasma that gets all its breakpoints just now
Spent 300k dockets, worth it
Actually a bit less than 300k
junior needle
Incredibly low amount of dockets spent
tall torrent
void rampart
Maniac + elite
Surgical + hand cannon
If one of these has to go then which one
It's on a build where it's just a backup weapon for stuff my melee can't reach
tall torrent
If one of these has to go then which one
It's on a build where it's just a back...
Probably maniac
Elite is more important overall
final stag
Just head shot them 😈
void rampart
I'll make do, melee can take care of that
tall torrent
Consistency is more important for 1 shot weapons
final stag
Vet trading with a rager is ballsy
tall torrent
Maniac is QoL essentially
junior needle
I need maniac+anoint on zealot just to get crit headshot kills at a fairly close range
It sucks
tall torrent
I might play the cursed dance of death + hit & run combo on Agripinaa braced for my martyrdom zealot
void rampart
finally a weapon I can complete my contract with
tall torrent
Vet trading with a rager is ballsy
Not if you have a melee weapon that can reliably break their combos on defense
final stag
Rashad and standard shovel have the bash as a special attack
That works I know that works on them
frank monolith
I need maniac+anoint on zealot just to get crit headshot kills at a fairly close...
I usually just charge spam m1 with my knife build if its alone or 2 of them if there is way more i spam block attack and it gets the job done killing them. Or if I dont have charge, I have a pool of 4+9 stam and i just dash left or right consistently while spamming block attack, and usually i only take some chip dmg or the blocking blocks it. But one time my dodge got block and i took like 6 diffrent rager hits and nearly die 
, but i just back spaced after the stun animation and proceed to spam my throwing knife at their head
tall torrent
Rashad and standard shovel have the bash as a special attack
They’re different
Rashad uses PA for stagger
Standard shovel has SP or heavy
final stag
All I know is scab ragers were being killed on damnation with a power 447 Rashad. It was a rager horde too smh. That thing fucks.
void rampart
@tall torrent You were talking about the Zarona needing specifics to hit BPs and Melk has this in the shop. Fixable?
final stag
Yes
tall torrent
<@366562874039992331> You were talking about the Zarona needing specifics to hit...
Yes, get it if you have enough coins
void rampart
will do
void rampart
Yay after I break 2000 plasteel to roll a wack ass one and then archaeotech shows up in Melk's shop
final stag
😔
umbral scaffold
hey guys do you know how i can complete best do the make every shot count achievment?
elder fiber
revolver, no + ammo talent or survivalist aura, run into a beast of nurgle and dump into its body
and in general shoot beefy boys that won't get instagibbed by other players
final stag
You could also make it a private game and put the difficulty on the bare minimum if you so wished
umbral scaffold
How do you make a privat game
final stag
Go to mission terminal and it should be on the bottom right.
midnight totem
@umbral scaffold also shooting into bulwark shields counts as a miss
late hatch
How do you make a privat game
You need min 2 players for private games though
jaunty sphinx
Revolver and no ammo talent that's what I did
Then I just shredded everything with psword because lolheresy
elder fiber
like we said, revolver with no ammo/survivalist aura and just take sure shots. You should run out quickly enough esp if you get monstrosities
its not "cheese" but idk I did it first try and my aim sucks tbh
tall torrent
Ok gues i need some frends
What region are u in
umbral scaffold
Im germany
umbral scaffold
Sure
umbral scaffold
sure wehre
tall torrent
dusky flare
one more question, would u recommend hit & run blessing to pair with dance of de...
Honestly I only take damage blessings so I wouldn't know
tall torrent
Honestly I only take damage blessings so I wouldn't know
alr thx
late hatch
I would offer to help but im OCE and I hate playing with high ping 
clear pier
what's the dump stat for knives? it's mobility right?
hollow ibex
what's the dump stat for knives? it's mobility right?
Yes
late hatch
Mobility is pretty universally the dump, but generally you want 51+ so you get the dodge count
rose ingot
Any y’all got suggestions for completing the Long Bomb penance?
I need it to get the helmet
final stag
This bad boy aight?
Looks really good in my humble opinion after using a power 447 jfjdn
pearl granite
Go all the way back
where is "all the way back"? 
late hatch
This bad boy aight?
first target is low, i think too low to pass BP
bitter turtle
This bad boy aight?
first target is the biggest difference in damage
so not ideal
well
it probably is still fine
as long as you get enough headtaker stacks
easy to just test it yourself and see
if you can OS dreg/scab bruisers
final stag
I did test it
I can one shot them with headtaker stacks or with just normal WS Buffs, agile engagement, surprise attack. Etc which are always active when I play
So yeah if you juggle enough I can hit breakpoints fast and just lawnmower through hordes.
hybrid token
What highdamage and kills she has ! she must be using the most overpowered gun in the game !
I most certainly was !
The recon !
best gun 4eva
infantry gun sux 4eva
fast sundial
what is the difference between the mk I and mk II helbores?
final stag
Charge times and charge damage most likely
Check the veteran Bible in pins it should say
This one
muted knot
What highdamage and kills she has ! she must be using the most overpowered gun i...
I love that I knew what weapon you were using as soon as I saw your ammo pickups
wanton dawn
Honestly the gun with which I have the worst ammo stats is the plasma when i am not switching 
I should have a good one somewhere, lemme check
Found it
Tbf it is because ammo pickup are really crappy with plasma. A small pack is about 8 shot
grand perch
You mean 8 shots as in 16 ammo?
wanton dawn
25
plasma consume 3 per base shot
though it might be stat dependent ? don't really care though
it is 15% of your mag. CIAG by comparison, a small pack is 2 mags
grand perch
plasma consume 3 per base shot
Oh yeah, misremembered that
wanton dawn
CIAG ammo eco is something else if you don't try to shoot crusher with it
lyric dock
CIAG ammo eco is something else if you don't try to shoot crusher with it
Video unclear. Spent all my ammo on the horde - Most CIAG vets I seen
final stag
I never used the ciag
Mainly because my controller aim is dogshit
kind otter
Kantrael shotgun alt fire into long horde for best ammo efficiency 
lyric dock
Kantrael shotgun alt fire into long horde for best ammo efficiency <:OmegaGuards...
Point at a horde and tell your Ogryn they have rations is even more ammo efficient 
umbral scaffold
Found it <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
ahhhhh finally a scoreboard that isn't re-tarded ....who is the moron whom made the original one?
dawn garnet
hmmm today i will try on the new set
ive seen less meshing problems with skyrim mods
umbral scaffold
left to right endgame screen is an hidden scoreboard right?
wanton dawn
ahhhhh finally a scoreboard that isn't re-tarded<:OmegaGuardsmanHype:96849457584...
I have send some adjustment to the mod page that were integrated in it. In a way i am one of the moron
umbral scaffold
I have send some adjustment to the mod page that were integrated in it. In a way...
just put kill stats on it....who the hell cares how many plasteel one had collected
wanton dawn
stiff cipher
I’ve definitely noticed people ignoring resources as of late
umbral scaffold
They do > https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1bkfl3i/rise_in_people_not_...
idc....it's wrong
wanton dawn
I ignore them
umbral scaffold
They do > https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1bkfl3i/rise_in_people_not_...
umbral scaffold
I ignore them
would be nice add accuracy %
umbral scaffold
ahhhh now i get it why they want resource....cuz without it the sheer superiorty of vets compared to the lesser classes would be evident
wanton dawn
Nah, i dont have accuracy. I do have crit and weakspot %
umbral scaffold
Nah, i dont have accuracy. I do have crit and weakspot %
fair enough
iron marten
Found it <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
that ammo pick up mmm
wanton dawn
that ammo pick up mmm
iron marten
https://tenor.com/view/bullets-bullet-shower-bullet-bath-gobigleague-gif-2281768...
I had a similar game hang on
loud oyster
Just a had game that felt like it was 90% ranged enemies. Ended poorly for us.
swift sand
did i win the lottery or no?
stiff cipher
did i win the lottery or no?
Pretty close to it stat wise I’m not a expert on blessing and perks for the plasma gun tho
wanton dawn
did i win the lottery or no?
stopping is a bit low but all the rest is fine
umbral scaffold
Pretty close to it stat wise I’m not a expert on blessing and perks for the plas...
they are the right ones, once you get a 360+ with those 2 you have a weapon good enough to carry you throught anything
everything else is minor minmaxxing with plasma
umbral scaffold
Someone more knowledgeable came along preciate it
gets hot and blaze away are already the best ones, anything more is just disgustingly broken on plasma
i guess you could have 25% damage on carapace armor and one shot crushers with crits
dawn garnet
They do > https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1bkfl3i/rise_in_people_not_...
its a pain i still pick them up because i need them
but if i had all the weapons i wanted i really wouldnt bother
the game is fun enough as is without needing to look around for bullshit
wanton dawn
Pretty sure I have a godroll of almost all ranged weapon on vet
Unless I really dont care about it
dawn garnet
tbh blessings are almost irrelevant on plasma
its a plasma gun it doesnt even need perks
agile forge
breakpoints are a thing still
just saying you benefit more from the perks helping you reach breakpoints (since they're extremely significant for a gun that expects to kill things in 1-2 shots)
going from 1-2 or 2-3 is a significant slowdown
that said a grey one is still obviously better than a godroll of a lot of other weapons
loud oyster
Just had an Auric game w/ a Exec vet running Vrak mrk 7 and a bloody chaxe, the guy didn't even have grenade regen... dafuq you doing playing Aurics w/o nade regen?
trim hemlock
agile forge
I don't run grenade regen on my autogun vet >_>
trim hemlock
I play Aurics constantly with no grenade regen
agile forge
Veteran has to make a lot of hard choices with talents
and grenade regen is a 2 point dip
my power sword can cover it fine, but the points it's freed up to use elsewhere are way more valuable
I can't remember what I put them in though
but if I had a vrak VII and a chain axe I'd probably want grenade regen lmao
loud oyster
This guy was trying to horde clear with said chaxe
trim hemlock
It doesn’t have terrible clear speed
agile forge
I know they're designed as elite smashers
trim hemlock
is it capable of horde clear?
It is, it has decent to good cleave damage, but I’m mostly talking from the perspective of Mk4
Mk12 is a little ass
loud oyster
Honestly, I couldn't tell which chaxe it was, was just absolutely daffled about someone bringing a chaxe to some of the higher difficulty activities w/o nade regen. This guy clearly didn't know the "strike twice then dodge" rule of horde clear either
I am just wondering whether they had a friend carry them the entire time they played lol
trim hemlock
Does it matter?
lyric dock
Who knows. I still see a fair number do the school of "Trading melee hits with the fodder" of melee combat
trim hemlock
I generally tend not to talk about other players, even though their performance is subpar. If mission goes awry, it’s easier to find a reason why you karked up, and where, and how
loud oyster
At least we did finish the game, thanks to a rockstar of a zealot.
But it was rough.
lyric dock
Zealot is either the first or last player that goes down
final latch
zealot is a weird class
loud oyster
Zealot is either the first or last player that goes down
Sums up my experience when I play zealot on occasion.
final latch
i just play zealot by just overpushing everything until im low health honestly
loud oyster
Sometimes enemies just go "LMAO you die now!", other times I clear the entire horde by myself.
lyric dock
Ogryn on the other hand. "You see that big ball of enemies. I'm gonna charge in it!"
loud oyster
"See all those gunners? I'm gonna slam my shield down and taunt all of them, now pick them off, would ya?" Is the other type of Ogryn player I see.
lyric dock
With how much HP I have. It takes a lot to bring me down outside of a Bullshit trapper hiding in the horde or behind ogryn enemies
trim hemlock
That amount of HP can eat a medipack by itself
lyric dock
Burp I have done that by accident a few times
loud oyster
Also, thanks Hadron, for once
lyric dock
The rare Hadron being nice
grand perch
now disassemble it for the blessing
grand perch
I play Aurics constantly with no grenade regen
agile forge
"See all those gunners? I'm gonna slam my shield down and taunt all of them, now...
Tbh kinda underrated (until the fire or the dogs show up)
tame lodge
You can block the fire of the flamer, the problem is the ground
late hatch
You can block the fire of the flamer, the problem is the ground
I thought it only blocks it if its aimed at the ogryn, otehrwise it goes right through
tame lodge
I know that you can plant the shield behind a small cover to avoid the pool of fire
shrewd lagoon
I play Aurics constantly with no grenade regen
same; shoot gun
somber axle
"See all those gunners? I'm gonna slam my shield down and taunt all of them, now...
I was playing my Zealot last night when a shield Ogryn caught the attention of an entire stairway of gunners and plopped his shield down. Luckily no dogs and only one trapper I took care of. No Vet or Psyker on the team and the other two were also Zealots using Braced Auto guns. Helped a bunch because I could use my Revolver to pick them off easier
Good shield ogryns are magical
lyric dock
It's really good when it plays out just right where there is no flamers, bombers or disablers mucking around for those few moments
analog mural
I'd rather have an ogryn just charge into the gunners and kill them rather than sit in place with a shield
lyric dock
If it a few gunners. Yeah I'll charge in and take some chip damage from it
A big ball of gunners? That depends on the current context
final stag
Tank ogryn can simply run in. Taunt to stun them. Then heavy to get toughness and scare them to let your teammates fuck em up.
I do that all the time as a tank ogryn
vague smelt
Idk I mostly play Gunlugger ogryn
vague smelt
It is
analog mural
Yeah my ogryn has like 200 toughness and 3 10% tdr nodes
Just facetanking gunners all day with heavies
final stag
Heby give you like what 30% toughness per hit?
lyric dock
I run charge my main Ogryn ability.
25%
plus a extra 25% if you smack extra enemies
vague smelt
I just enjoy using PBB on Specialist wave missions and seeing my name on the kill feed covering the whole screen
final stag
I have 3 ogryn builds
I only charge into gunners with tank since melee ogryn get fucked up gnfnf
lyric dock
So a insane amount of Rege if you can heavy attack chain through enemies to them
vague smelt
Bonus points if you have a veteran with survivalist next to you
final stag
Mow down the hordes
lyric dock
Most teammates I get when I play as Ogryn sums up as follow:
I charge ahead to deal with a dangerous group of enemies and leave my team alone for 5 seconds. In those 5 seconds I leave my team alone
- Vet player gets himself down by 2 pox walkers because he has a F in melee combat
- Psyker goes pop
- Zealot gets wombo combo'd trying to save the 2 idiots
spare marten
hey Grimdark homies - any of you know a thing or three about wavelets and Fast fourier transform?
vague smelt
Most teammates I get when I play as Ogryn sums up as follow:
I charge ahead to ...
1 out of 20 ogryns I encounter are just skullcrusher users who don't know how to play
At least I find better veterans and psykers than anything else
Which is ironic
final stag
Psyker players who manage peril like they manages their money are actually the worst to play with.
lyric dock
My ogryns are either gunluggers that run out of ammo after the first encounter of enemies or masters of the Ogryn arts
final stag
Peril too high equal brain explosion
agile forge
I don't know how Psyker works
Doing most psyker things gives you peril
if you try to do a psyker thing and you're already at 100 peril, you pop
vague smelt
Like overheating?
agile forge
basically yeah
final stag
Yes
lyric dock
And if you go over 100% you climax in the name of the emperor
final stag
Except it doesn't damage yoy
agile forge
if you run shriek, you can cancel the pop
lyric dock
So you have to Edge that peril
final stag
It heals you
agile forge
and there's benefits to staying at high peril
lots of talents and blessings are stronger when peril is high
vague smelt
Hmmmmm
agile forge
so you're incentivised to try to maintain ~80-95 peril
lyric dock
Higher damage, Higher toughness daamge reduction for example
vague smelt
And why sometimes I just see psykers randomly exploding in front of my eyes while just walking and doing nothing
agile forge
you can quell your peril manually by holding R with most psyker things
agile forge
And why sometimes I just see psykers randomly exploding in front of my eyes whil...
Sometimes the whispers tell us that you can totally get another assail off during scrier's gaze
lyric dock
And why sometimes I just see psykers randomly exploding in front of my eyes whil...
That's the psyker maintaining and Failing to keep their peril
agile forge
the whispers lie.
novel stone
Hard to get psykrr to a really good spot imo but when you do they can be able to carry a team
Sorta like vet in that sense
tribal granite
hello can some one pleases help my with on overwatch ?
lyric dock
Watch your back, dodge often, and USE YOUR DAMN MELEE TO BLOCK
final stag
High skill psykers are gods
agile forge
even the best psykers still fuck up sometimes too
vague smelt
They're funny to interact
I like them
Good or not
For some reason
They're just funny
agile forge
I saw Pygex blow himself up on the one game I got randomly matched with him
It made me feel a lot better about myself lol
lyric dock
Sometimes we lose our rythem and go pop
agile forge
I get much less self-conscious when I make a fucky wucky now
tribal granite
Watch your back, dodge often, and USE YOUR DAMN MELEE TO BLOCK
not when your team meets run off
and get KO every minute
final stag
When I see a psyker I see a liability first and hope I'm wrong
lyric dock
Fair enough. I got some time. I can help you with that challenge
jaunty sphinx
I see a Psyker and I breathe a sigh of relief because the mission is gonna go smoother than it would if the slot had another zealot or vet
I like having at least 1 Psyker on the team
lyric dock
I'm always happy to see a psyker when I'm not playing as my Psyker
jaunty sphinx
fr
final stag
I have had few games with good psykers 😔
lyric dock
Because the game is gonna go nice and smooth for the most part outside of the director saying "DIE"
final stag
I'm always happy to a zealot though, usually their gods but occasionally they're not and it turns into a liability quick.
jaunty sphinx
I've had some fucking amazing psykers it's about the same number as good and bad vets I've had imo
somber axle
I'd rather have an ogryn just charge into the gunners and kill them rather than ...
A few gunners all standing relatively close together sure. If it were just a few I'd have charged in myself. But last night felt like every match I played was Nurgle's "Oops All Gunners!" mix and we'd have to deal with what felt like 10-15 gunners scattering from various sight lines and unloading into us all at once. Normally I don't care about team comp but not having a Vet or Psyker on larger maps vs that many gunners was painful
Trying to reach the gunners through the horde, specials and elites can be tough
lyric dock
Psykers at least from my pubbing experience generally falls into the "pretty competent"
Ogryns generally solid and bad ones are very few and far
Vets is a 50/50 coin flip if they're good or Pox walker bait
Zealots is 50/50 if they clutch the game or Dog/Trapper bait
somber axle
Accurate
final stag
Fsir
somber axle
Zealots are either carrying games and clutching solo when the squad goes down or they're the first to fall before the team wipes
lyric dock
It's why I have this "Zealots are either the first to die or last to die"
final stag
I did that today as a stealth vet. My team got slaughtered by rager pack fjndnf
somber axle
Being a good Vet isn't too hard though. Any Vet who understands how to swap to melee and how to actually use melee is already above the average guy backpedaling and spamming plasmagun into poxwalkers in a panic
final stag
I almost got killed but managed to kill em all (I sacrificed my vet ally)
I'd like to say I'm a pretty good vet fjdj
lyric dock
I'm pretty solid as Vet.
final stag
Considering I use off meta
tame lodge
I'm a good vet
lyric dock
My average life expectancy as Vet is 50 seconds. Which is 47.2 seconds longer than the average vet
final stag
I do make my share of mistakes (like accidentally jumping when I mean to dodge which ends in me turning into a pile of goo)
lyric dock
Why I have the mod that prevents accidental jumps while dodging
final stag
Why I play on Xbox fhnendn
I don't have that pleasure sadly. I hate jumping when I try to dodge a net or a crusher.
umbral scaffold
i shot a rager with my boltgun last night and my game crashed as i fired
it was in the middle of a horde on damnation
umbral granite
Melk selling this... I am kinda temped but i dont know if it's good or not (I dont normally use columus)
bitter turtle
its good
agile forge
Melk selling this... I am kinda temped but i dont know if it's good or not (I do...
It's very good. It could be a little better
you'll be stuck with a B tier blessing
bitter turtle
carapace -> maniac
swap out either blessing for dumdum depending on how you want
agile forge
but apart from that it's very good
bitter turtle
t3 doesnt matter that much for thos e2
tall torrent
Hit & run is actually pretty good for duck & dive + deadshot
bitter turtle
its like ghost
tall torrent
Yea
bitter turtle
so yes
proud nest
Melk selling this... I am kinda temped but i dont know if it's good or not (I do...
thats real good 👀
tall torrent
I specified all “dodge” blessings in my document
umbral granite
I only have dumdum tier 3 at the moment, is that fine until i manage to get a tier 4 version for the columnus?
tall torrent
Works
tall torrent
I got this yesterday
proud nest
i run mine w/ dumdum/deathspitter and flak/maniac
bitter turtle
you can do either
tall torrent
So, keep hit and run for duck and dive?
If u want to play deadshot, go for that
If not, keep deathspitter
bitter turtle
deathspitter is a fine generic damage boost if you dont care for that kinda gameplay
proud nest
deadshot without duck and dive is totally doable if youre okay sacrificing all your curio slots to stam lol
just gotta run target down or weapons spec
umbral granite
I decided i liked the generic damage boost and situational range immunity better
bitter turtle
personally
i agree
i only do hit and run or raking fire as 2nd blessing nowaday for iag
raking fire for boss dmg meme
can take out nearly half a monstro hp bar with one clip
hit and run is nice for very aggressive play too
way better than stripped down
tall torrent
Dum Dum + Hit & Run + Deadshot + Target Down! + Duck & Dive
Is a pretty hilarious way to play IAGs
proud nest
it just works
agile forge
just gotta run target down or weapons spec
Or just use the deadshot part for burst
tall torrent
hit and run is nice for very aggressive play too
I’ll also say that hit & run is very funny for zealot’s dance of death
proud nest
heres some eye candy for yall
i run this on my weapons spec build
trim hemlock
Why Point Blank, though
proud nest
weapon spec build
trim hemlock
Yeah, but, like, why
proud nest
is for q swap + m1 + q swap
trim hemlock
Sounds like a lot of work that Surgical doesn’t have to go through
proud nest
i dont have to ads with point blank
tall torrent
heres some eye candy for yall
i run this on my weapons spec build
Point blank doesn’t work the way u think it does, it only activates from revolver’s melee special action’s kills
proud nest
no way
tall torrent
Yep.
trim hemlock
Yeah, but you’re not making the most consistent solution, either
And yeah, if Point Blank isn’t activated on your regular melee kills
proud nest
haha well at least i can swap it out
tall torrent
Don’t ever use point blank
trim hemlock
I.e., there is no buff icon
tall torrent
Also for that revolver
bitter turtle
heres some eye candy for yall
i run this on my weapons spec build
point blank needs you to get a kill from pistol whip
its
trim hemlock
Then it will only pop up on butt kills, and that’s ass
bitter turtle
extremely tragic
tall torrent
Use maniac + elite
Surgical + hand cannon
Maniac + elite is the best possible perk combo for revolver
Gets u all the major breakpoints
Elite is the most important one
trim hemlock
So what does Elites do on a volver?
bitter turtle
it gets the 2shot bp for crusher withotu needing to run carapace and also pushes you over for rager crit bodyshots
tall torrent
So what does Elites do on a volver?
1 crit bodyshot scab rager
2 crit headshot crusher
Carapace doesn’t give u scab rager 1 crit bodyshot
final stag
Point blank doesn’t work the way u think it does, it only activates from revolve...
That's so gay
tall torrent
That's so gay
Ik lmao
trim hemlock
it gets the 2shot bp for crusher withotu needing to run carapace and also pushes...
takes notes
final stag
That's such poor design seeing how the revolvers bash is akin to sneezing on aa poxwalker
bitter turtle
since short buff is ok if you fan the whole thing out
70% crit
but
fucking butt attack only
actual trash
it could be guaranteed crit and 400% power and still be trash with how weak that whip attack is
tame lodge
If the body shot didn't kill, whack it
tall torrent
*takes notes*
Maniac is for Crit bodyshot Dreg rager
It’s more QoL since you generally aim headshot anyways
But it’s an extra layer of consistency
tall torrent
heres some eye candy for yall
i run this on my weapons spec build
Flak to elite
Point blank to surgical
That’s a real 550 godroll that hits every major breakpoint, congrats
tall torrent
Yes
proud nest
kk
final stag
Low-key a good talent
proud nest
oh for sure
tall torrent
This is what I’d recommend for revolver WS
With maniac + elite this hits every major breakpoint u care about
proud nest
i run mine with smokes and middle coherency perk
i take reciprocity and dont take fully loaded cus i dont mind picking up ammo tins
tall torrent
Reciprocity isn’t very good for weapons outside of knife & tac axe
umbral granite
My friend just got a blue agripina revolver with 80% in damage, critical, and penetration, but only 35% in reload and 20% in mobility... it has native hand-cannon 3 and 20% maniac...
proud nest
its a combat axe build
is gud for chunkin hordes
tall torrent
Go CQKZ then
proud nest
yes
tall torrent
Reciprocity isn’t gonna see much use with combat axe
proud nest
i mean ive got both lol
tall torrent
U don’t need both is what I mean
proud nest
but yeah its alredy one shotting lots of things
tall torrent
Could grab better talents
bitter turtle
recip's definitely not worth losing some bps
proud nest
low key
smoke grenades are kinda good for melee builds now that they work on snipers
nice to have if you already can handle armor and hordes
tall torrent
Try smth like this then
stiff cipher
No Krak grenade interesting
tall torrent
No Krak grenade interesting
It’s very situational
stiff cipher
Krak isn't like
Make or break
If you like turning people into past tense then yes it is
Also I like big boom
So I’m partial
final stag
You could do that with a melee or gun just as easily.
stiff cipher
You could do that with a melee or gun just as easily.
Yeah but red mist
final stag
It is funny
bitter turtle
krak only really shines against monstrosities
final stag
I have kraks just a save a point and dump em on monsters
final stag
But if I want to delete monsters I can use my dedicated big game hunter build
bitter turtle
even in a scenario with a pack of bulwark/crushers
krak will often only kill 1 or 2 at best
it really does not solve the problem when there is a dozen with trappers/gunners hiding behind them
stiff cipher
Gotta get the damage buff
bitter turtle
shredder will knock down the entire group and bleed kill everything under maulers
are you talking about tinker?
final stag
Tinker does nothing for krak
bitter turtle
krak kills without tinker so that doesnt matter
tinkered kraks only give more monstro damage
final stag
Tinker on shredders increases range and damage
stiff cipher
yeah but more boom per throwey
bitter turtle
kraks have very small aoe and wont hit more than 1 or 2 targets unless terrain squeezes them together (not very reliable)
that is why they are not really a good answer even vs armor
auric mael will see crushers/bulwarks come in large packs
proud nest
No Krak grenade interesting
dont need if you have revolver
final stag
I usually get kraks or smokes to save on a talent point
Unless it's my support exe then I use smokes
stiff cipher
dont need if you have revolver
Yes however comma BOOOOOOM
proud nest
aye cant argue with that
final stag
It is funny to see crusher go boom
stiff cipher
Now I’m regretting naming my character Northrop Grumman instead of Rico
final stag
Shredders are also funny to have
Carry 4 of them that regenerate and deal a Lotta damage
stiff cipher
How you get 4
final stag
Demolition stockpile I think. Right skill tree above infil
You just carry an extra grenade
tall torrent
Demolition stockpile I think. Right skill tree above infil
Grenadier is +1 nade
Stockpile is regen 60s
Demo team is regen 5% chance
final stag
Ah still it is right skill tree
stiff cipher
Ah
final stag
It's so dumb that veteran has like what is it 6 grenade talents? Or grenade adjacent.
stiff cipher
Big booom
final stag
Paired with shredders it's such a shit show for anyone you don't like
hollow ibex
It's so dumb that veteran has like what is it 6 grenade talents? Or grenade adja...
It’s beautiful
final stag
Gifting frags like a demented Oprah
hollow ibex
I love running grenade meme builds
proud nest
Try smth like this then
will try like this next
final stag
You can throw a grenade every minute
That's average 30 grenades a match with 1/5 to be 2 instead! Meaning you could throw 42 grenades in a single match!
tall torrent
will try like this next
Swap reciprocity to CQKZ and probably drop 25 toughness for stamina regen boost
I don’t think you even need desperado for combat axe if you already have +10% melee from top
loud oyster
Paired with shredders it's such a shit show for anyone you don't like
And with Kraks, it's "I don't like dealing with Crushers"
proud nest
dont need the stam regen i run a stam curio
tall torrent
dont need the stam regen i run a stam curio
Stam regen delay is unrelated to stam curio
final stag
And with Kraks, it's "I don't like dealing with Crushers"
If I throw a krak at a crusher it's more like I need this roadblock gone because I don't wanna spend time on it.
proud nest
i am comfortable with my stam management as is
hollow ibex
You can throw a grenade every minute
That's average 30 grenades a match with 1/...
Take field improv and throw out 20 frags in a single event
proud nest
also i did take out recip
final stag
Take field improv and throw out 20 frags in a single event
16*
Maybe 19nof you're lucky
There's two ammo boxes per map
proud nest
my b im blind
hollow ibex
suggest that
I would
proud nest
meant agile engagement the whole time lol
hollow ibex
Realistically it might be more than 20 because of grenade regen perks
final stag
So let's do the math, 2 ammo boxes per map.
90 grenades per match if the stars aligned
3 grenades a minute
stiff cipher
Try smth like this then
This one’s good tried it with very poor revolver and did well
proud nest
not me maintaining a constant smoke screen for the entire mission
loud oyster
Does ammo box count vary based on difficulty?
final stag
And I haven't even COUNTED the 5% chance of getting a grenade off a kill from you or ally
tall torrent
Does ammo box count vary based on difficulty?
2 ammo box + 2 medpack per map
Scab faction no ammo maelstrom disables ammo box spawn
final stag
So it can reach to like 100 if you're lucky
tall torrent
So if u use a medpack really early on it’s just gone
loud oyster
Weird, I recently had a game where I got three ammo boxes in a single map
tall torrent
What difficulty was it
loud oyster
Heresy
tall torrent
Hmm weird
final stag
100+ grenades in a single match is cursed
loud oyster
Could it be that there's a very small chance that ammo boxes randomly spawn?
tall torrent
If u ever get that again maybe post it here
It’s not supposed to spawn more than 2 ammo crates per mission
loud oyster
Noted
final stag
That's such a cursed statistic regardless but like you'd be hogging up the ammo boxes from your team and being a rather annoying teammate
proud nest
dont forget about enhanced blitz maelstrom
final stag
NOOOOOO
Who even needs a grenade launcher for the veteran when you ARE THE GRENADE LAUNCHER
proud nest
i run mine with a stam and 2 toughness, with stam regen, 2 gunner resist/1 sniper resist, and toughness regen (preference)
final stag
I think regardless having toughness curios is always go to for any of the archetypes. Maybe with a +3 stam.
vague smelt
what about HP
final stag
Not important
proud nest
ye fire doesnt delete toughness anymore
final stag
Better to have more toughness to protect health than more health which will just go down
vague smelt
I see
final stag
Toughness has a Health damage reduction quality depending on how much toughness you have
And will protect you longer from ranged attacks
tall torrent
What curios stats are mostly needed on a veteran
+16~17% toughness
+20~21% health
+3 stamina
+10~12% stamina regen rate
+10~12% block efficiency
+3~4% ability cooldown
+15~20% gunner resist
+15~20% sniper resist
+4~5% health
+4~5% toughness
And ofc +10% ordo docket
trim hemlock
What curios stats are mostly needed on a veteran
I like toughness, ordo dockets and stamina regen personally
Toughness Regen speed is also OK
tiny summit
Always ordo dockets in every curio. None of the curio perks were gonna make or break your run anyways
proud nest
stam regen hella nice
im a fan of it on my curious so all of my builds get it
saves me some sp
stiff cipher
Yeah stamina regen and toughness are my go to
tall torrent
Stamina regen rate affects how much stamina u gain once it starts regen
But it does not affect the delay before it starts regen
You can only get delay reduction from talent tree
Veteran has a 1s stamina regen delay and regens 1 stam/s
With triple +12% stam regen rate, you regen 1.36 stam/s
With a stam regen delay boost from talent tree, you have 0.75s stam regen delay (same as Zealot)
tiny summit
And still feels like ass with +9 stam
vague smelt
I'll just take gunner/stamina/toughness/dockets
Ugh leveling up it's soooo booooooooooooooring
stone tapir
havent played in a while. does the Boltgun still suck?
loud oyster
The recoil on it is awful, even ADSing
stone tapir
eh, it always will be a blocky sob
stone tapir
The recoil on it is awful, even ADSing
i mean, it IS a bolter
analog mural
The recoil on a BOLTGUN is bad? NO WAY
junior needle
The bolts are rocket propelled, the idea that it’s supposed to have ridiculous recoil is made up by people who don’t understand guns
stiff cipher
A grenade rifle has kickback crazy
stone tapir
The bolts are rocket propelled, the idea that it’s supposed to have ridiculous r...
this
analog mural
Well it's made up by the people who made Warhammer, so yes
stiff cipher
The bolts are rocket propelled, the idea that it’s supposed to have ridiculous r...
Propellant only sparks after it exits the barrel
stone tapir
Propellant only sparks after it exits the barrel
yea, so the only real recoil would be the buffer system, not the ignition of the round
stiff cipher
yea, so the only real recoil would be the buffer system, not the ignition of the...
Yeah so still a good bit but not atrocious
junior needle
Last I checked bolter lore it did have an initial charge to exit the barrel
But like, it’s not the primary method of propulsion, it doesn’t need to be stupid strong
stone tapir
Yeah so still a good bit but not atrocious
yea, certainly not enough to make you look at the sky after popping a few rounds
stiff cipher
It’s possible after 5 you’ll be higher than your target
stone tapir
for some reason, they have the bolter acting like a 50 BMG being fired by a malnurished 4 year old
stiff cipher
But not for how powerful the recoil is but because repeated shots just won’t let the gun reset to where you aim so you’ll get higher per shot
stone tapir
sure, it does take some trigger discipline to properly get your (i hate saying it like this in a game setting) sight picture back, but gah dang, the 3rd shot is basically sailing into the moon
analog mural
Actually the conventional charge for a bolt shot looks to be about 80% of what a normal round would contain, and considering the boltor shoots .75 calibers, the recoil will be considerable
stiff cipher
Also tbf a space marines bolter and our bolter is different
loud oyster
Yeah, ours is much smaller
stone tapir
thats very true. our bolters are bolt pistols to a SM
stiff cipher
Now a human could carry a space marines bolter but itd have to be the guy whose strangely strong
stiff cipher
almost inhumanly strong...
That or they are a catchan
tall torrent
Now a human could carry a space marines bolter but itd have to be the guy whose ...
Give us a stormbolter that damages toughness with every shot fired
stiff cipher
Give us a stormbolter that damages toughness with every shot fired
It’s an idea and not a bad one with voice of command
agile forge
Marginally less bad than 2 weeks ago I think
But still among the worst
Bolter recoil is like lasgun recoil
It's the machine spirit reminding you who's in charge
The Admech built it in deliberately.
loud oyster
is the recon laser still bad?
I would say out of the three, the mrk 7a is the best of the bunch, but that's just me.
junior needle
is the recon laser still bad?
Still the worst or among the worst guns depending on the variant
agile forge
7a is a more functional variant with better (still bad) armour piercing and 6d is the meme gotta-pew-fast gun
And the 2 is the champion, worst gun in the game, iirc.
junior needle
6d technically has the most dps with onslaught
But that requires you to take onslaught
agile forge
You can use them as antishooter I guess
junior needle
Otherwise 7a and 6d get similar dps
agile forge
You could also use a CIAG and do all the same things, and more, a lot better.
junior needle
Yeah they need a tuneup, only thing salvaging them somewhat is how much juice the talent tree can provide. Any build that takes them is going to need to build around them for less performance than other guns baseline.
stone tapir
7a is a more functional variant with better (still bad) armour piercing and 6d i...
i do like memes
agile forge
Yeah they need a tuneup, only thing salvaging them somewhat is how much juice th...
And again, if you do the same concept but on an actually good rapid-fire gun, the results are friggin crazy
Max DPS CIAG is just a joke
stone tapir
Yeah they need a tuneup, only thing salvaging them somewhat is how much juice th...
do you have a screenshot for a good recon laser talent tree? or anything like that
junior needle
Yeah I got ass, hold on
Depends on what variant you want to use but I frankly just wouldn’t use the guns right now
frank basin
Posting recon vs ciag again?
stone tapir
i just like the recons
i know they arent meta or best performing, i just have the most fun using them
junior needle
They’re dogshit currently, don’t waste your money when they’re liable to get reworked
Just download the pewpew mod
You can change the ciag visuals and sounds to lasers
stone tapir
Just download the pewpew mod
the what?
tall torrent
300k dockets for this last night
frank basin
Mod replace gun firing sound
junior needle
It’s on nexus
frank basin
And bullets trails
bright cliff
I am a columnus enjoyer myself but like I do dabble with the recon lasguns every now and then
it's nice to have variety yk
bright cliff
recon lasguns are better on psyker anyway because it's easier to stack crit rather than just dmg
tidal obsidian
Or the blue one
tall torrent
<@161941113240813569> is the worst recon lasgun the tan one?
Mk2 is worst
frank basin
He’s gonna say all of them worse
bright cliff
worst recon lasgun is the one with the lowest firerate no??
tidal obsidian
Yeah I don't know what that is what color is it
junior needle
worst recon lasgun is the one with the lowest firerate no??
Worst is the mk2, the middle variant
tidal obsidian
How is blue one better?
bright cliff
never really liked the middle variant either
junior needle
More dps
tall torrent
Roughly same dmg but shoots 400rpm faster
bright cliff
checks out
tall torrent
junior needle
Mk2 has likely the lowest dps of any gun in the game
stone tapir
whats the best shotgun?
bright cliff
the high firerate one is like 2 or 3 dmg per shot off but has MUCH higher rpm
the one with the slug rounds imo
tall torrent
whats the best shotgun?
Kantrael mk9
bright cliff
versatility is important
I think the ones with the shot shells with funky patterns are basically useless
stone tapir
Yeah I got ass, hold on
also, if you can DM that to me, id appreciate it
bright cliff
if you have time to swap to a different shell to shoot a poxwalker horde you're better just pulling out your melee
(or using ciag but ykyk)
stone tapir
whats ciag?
junior needle
I still remember that one guy who said the mk2 was the best variant and then I showed him video proof
bright cliff
columnus infantry autogun mk5
tall torrent
Columnus Mk5 infantry autogun
frank basin
Columnus auto infantry gun
stone tapir
oh
junior needle
And he refused to acknowledge it
frank basin
They like smg
bright cliff
the single best rifle in the game by a longshot
junior needle
Just pretended it wasn’t there
frank basin
I still got him
bright cliff
Just pretended it wasn’t there
I do not see it
my eyes are closed
my mind is empty
frank basin
Kazymir that guy
bright cliff
dont put the poor guy on blast like that he's still stuck in heresy difficulty
junior needle
No joke
frank basin
Nah he just show up
junior needle
He literally posted a game where he had 4.7k rounds fired, most of it into melee chaffe
stone tapir
i pretty much stay on Malice, hard enough that i have to pay attention, but not too hard that i have to sit upright in my seat
bright cliff
oh like streaming in the discord?
junior needle
Barely touched his melee
bright cliff
I mean like you can if you're good but like
junior needle
His defense of the mk2 was that it didnt run out of ammo as fast as the others one therefore it was better
frank basin
That’s why kek
tall torrent
i pretty much stay on Malice, hard enough that i have to pay attention, but not ...
Oh if ur playing malice recon lasguns are perfectly serviceable
bright cliff
His defense of the mk2 was that it didnt run out of ammo as fast as the others o...
just????? DONT MISS???????????
frank basin
He didn’t miss
bright cliff
i pretty much stay on Malice, hard enough that i have to pay attention, but not ...
what he said if you're not pushing auric damnations and/or you're ok at shooters you don't need to worry about meta
junior needle
also, if you can DM that to me, id appreciate it
You'll have to tell me which variant you want
And quickly
I need my sleeb
bright cliff
it is 2:24PM
stone tapir
You'll have to tell me which variant you want
the one you were recommending earlier
frank basin
He’s european
bright cliff
time zones do not exist
junior needle
I am not
stone tapir
7a i think it was
frank basin
time zones do not exist
Gamer are flat earth believers
bright cliff
Gamer are flat earth believers
the sun! is above! my head! and I cannot fathom! a round earth! when the horizon is flat!
bright cliff
if you want slow and high damage the bayonet lasguns are just so much better
stone tapir
how slow? like fat person in a walmart disability cart slow or congress passing a bill slow?
bright cliff
yeah helbore. even the "fast" one works as a better dmr because the charge up attack increase is basically negligible
frank basin
That’s mark 7a
stone tapir
That’s mark 7a
yes but how slow...
bright cliff
do you want slow rifle or dmr
stone tapir
It shoot like ump45
thankyou
junior needle
the one you were recommending earlier
On a 6d you can choose between infernus or dumdum, headhunter mandatory no matter what. flak/maniac or crit/flak perks. Anti suppression node is surprisingly the best pickup in that row due to how it works on recawns also they have shit finesse so weak spot damage is comparatively weak on them. Here's a barebones start, pick what you want after: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ba0657b-116c-4a8c-a86b-2655522cb163
6d is only the highest damage variant if you take onslaught
frank basin
Killing crusher won’t be fast
junior needle
7a takes dumdum for sure instead of infernus
Killing crusher will be done with melee if you don't take onslaught
stone tapir
i appreciate you for taking the time to help me with this, youre a Emperor Send
frank basin
He just ciag meta user
bright cliff
crushers should be killed with your SHOVEL
like the EMPEROR intended
Him on Terra did not gift us with foldable pick shovels only to SHOOT crushers to death
frank basin
stone tapir
cya later chaps, ive got errands to run today
bright cliff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/437863525965365249/1220542127453507634/...
it's a shame dad never recognizes me, my name is alpharius
but he always calls me something else
frank basin
Femboyrius???
junior needle
He just ciag meta user
I don't even use it
junior needle
I don't even play vet
frank basin
Hey I am Graia brauto user
bright cliff
you don't have all four classes at max level?
crude fiber
What's wrong with braced autos
junior needle
I do, I don't play vet currently
bright cliff
What's wrong with braced autos <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
I'm busting his balls brautos are fine lol
junior needle
Or at all, I'm on break
grand perch
its a zealot, GETIM
junior needle
See me in 8 months when they drop 4 new shovels
bright cliff
so fun fact, #veteran-class is actually just for discussing zealot builds because the zealot class channel is always full of weirdos
frank basin
Enough by the shovel we have enough
crude fiber
I actually can't remember the last time I've seen a zealot related conversation in zealot chat lmao
frank basin
They talking about helldiver
bright cliff
my favorite zealot build is the charge ult with a catachan mk4 for meaty wave clear plus a boltgun with sainted gunslinger for dealing with armor + fast reload speed
also knives :^)
frank basin
Devil claw with boltgun
agile forge
I actually can't remember the last time I've seen a zealot related conversation ...
I got advice on my eviscerator in there today actually
bright cliff
my favorite psyker build is just the same ciag I have on veteran, but instead of burning all my ammo I just use bubble and spend half my time stunning shit for the group
if they gave veteran the duelling sword I'd never look back at psyker
somber axle
Love the devil's claw. I need to experiment more with Zealot. I'm mostly using an Eviscerator build with Perfect Strike and Shred blessings for ignore hit mass on crit and stacking crit/attack speed for crowd clear. It gets really funny doing a charge with full momentum stacks and a rev'd eviscerator to run in and one-shot a fresh Crusher on the spot
bright cliff
speaking of I still assert that they should have given the commissar armor to the zealot class
grand perch
if they gave the sniper hood to veteran, sure
somber axle
I want to try making a hammer build next. It looks too fun
bright cliff
Love the devil's claw. I need to experiment more with Zealot. I'm mostly using a...
dcmk4 is best for the charge ult because your first heavy is an overhead, which is very good at killing one elite you're charging at, otherwise just press l1 - h2 and ult for the h2 for the juiciest crit waveclear of all time
bright cliff
I want to try making a hammer build next. It looks too fun
hammer build is very fun and good for one shotting chunky dudes but the problem is that the good dps hammer has only horizontal heavy swings, so if you're not careful you'll get your 5000 damage swing interrupted by a poxwalker
somber axle
dcmk4 is best for the charge ult because your first heavy is an overhead, which ...
Thanks! I will screenshot this to remember for after work
agile forge
my favorite psyker build is just the same ciag I have on veteran, but instead of...
Idk man, if I'm gonna go gunker I prefer to go crazy gunker
Scrier's Gaze is so good
bright cliff
I recommend trying it with the shitty hammer first just because the overhead h1 is easier to land
bright cliff
if I'm using scriers' gaze I'm using the recon lasgun because the increased crit is more helpful when proccing infernus than just getting dps
agile forge
The Ironhelm isn't bad btw
bright cliff
it's not BAD bad
but if you want those meaty 1-shots on bosses you have to use the other one
agile forge
if I'm using scriers' gaze I'm using the recon lasgun because the increased crit...
It's great for CIAG too tbh, the crit multiplier on it is actually crazy
Yeah, Ironhelm is a bit more all purpose
Still one of the best boss killers
bright cliff
that's just the CIAG doing the work
agile forge
that's just the CIAG doing the work
Well CIAG with a massive crit chance bonus is a big boost
bright cliff
Thanks! I will screenshot this to remember for after work
and if you copy this dcmk4 charge attack build I recomment shred on the blade and a boltgun as your ranged. dont forget to take sainted gunslinger, it will halve the reload time of your boltgun
if you really want to dm me later and I'll send you my build
somber axle
Sounds good! I may poke later sometime after I get home 
tiny summit
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180
Average zealot chat notification
lyric dock
I know the Zealots are missing a few screws....
verbal hemlock
A few?
lyric dock
A few hundred
tame lodge
Even with a flamer you guys don't let them cook
umbral scaffold
martydom is any good or is le dogshit?🤔
agile forge
Probably the worst zealot keystone but still definitely good and usable
hollow ibex
but if you keep yourself alive, you're not a martyr 🤔
umbral scaffold
i've tryed it but can really make an opinion about it
agile forge
I like the other two keystones too much to be bothered to farm up 3 wound curios
tame lodge
I had bad rng, took a while to get those extra wounds, but hey, two from the tree and one from malice
tiny summit
martydom is any good or is le dogshit?🤔
It's good. Going all in on the wound talents and dmg mitigation really makes you tanky and ignorant of dmg
tame lodge
You actually feel that extra attack speed from the wounds
I used to run it with a chain axe
oh the motion sickness
umbral scaffold
i usally go like this on zealot, stealth is boring
tame lodge
martydom is any good or is le dogshit?🤔
I also recommend resetting when you have 3 or less wounds remaining, specially if all the others are corrupted
Or when free medstation
You can also go full martyr and never heal
Good luck
agile forge
Yeah, best to treat deep martyrdom as an enrage mechanic
tame lodge
Taking until death+plus holy rev+restoring faith will give you 2 wounds back when healing
10 points through Immolation Grenade
13 through Stunstorm
Hmmm, Bleed For The Emperor...
umbral scaffold
Brah who said mobility is the dump stat on knife
Just play ps if you don’t like mobility on melee
tame lodge
It's more of a dodge distance issue
crude fiber
Martyrdom is my favorite keystone. Can't go down if you kill everything before they can't hit you
white minnow
me cuz the knife's dodge distance at high mob is longer than its attack distance
agile forge
me cuz the knife's dodge distance at high mob is longer than its attack distance
So not even just a dump, but a stat with an inverse scaling for you
white minnow
hell yeah
makes me sad whenever i have to dodge with my knife
cuz i don't have any mobility dump knives at the moment
umbral scaffold
Suffering from success
stone tapir
whats a good melee to pair with the pladma goon?
lyric dock
Pick your flavor
- Axes
- Power swords
- Chainsaw
- Chainsaw as a Sword
- Chainsaw as a Ax
- Whatever Heretic you get your hands on
stone tapir
is that in order of best to less best?
lyric dock
Just whatever order I thought of while I was making the list
vague smelt
Holy hell Columnus V is so good
lyric dock
Vet has a solid collection of melees to use
To play with the melee options until you find one that suits you
stone tapir
yea, i love the sword saw and ax's
as a zealot, i almost exclusively use the eviscerator
hollow ibex
whats a good melee to pair with the pladma goon?
knife, so you can go pick up the ammo first
frank monolith
knife, so you can go pick up the ammo first
i like how you think
frank monolith
ngl i donno on vet i use iv on zel o ise iii
tame lodge
as a zealot, i almost exclusively use the eviscerator
laughs in chainsaw noises
tall torrent
whats a good melee to pair with the pladma goon?
This is more preference based
Depends on how many points you want to spend to improve melee
stone tapir
This is more preference based
the knife does make sense, considering how slow it makes you move
vague smelt
I didn't know if you die after killing the archi heretic you lose
but why does it take like
40 seconds to the game just say you won
You kill the boss, just let me win
don't make me fight an horde when the mission is done
winter grove
Pick your flavor
- Axes
- Power swords
- Chainsaw
- Chainsaw as a Sword
- Chains...
- British Shivs
- Rambo swords
- Axes but worse
- Shovels
tall torrent
the knife does make sense, considering how slow it makes you move
Veteran generally wants more horde clear focused melee weapons
paper mural
Knife + plasma is so incredibly fun while using the weapon specialist keystone, and the one after where melee kills reload a small portion of ammo to your magazine when swapping to range
fast sundial
i think it is a lot more fun when you use an actual melee weapon
but i think that might just be me
paper mural
Mk VI slashy knife with riposte and flesh tear to kill anything without armor, plasma for anything with
Never have to reload inside of an engagement
paper mural
i think it is a lot more fun when you use an actual melee weapon
How so
fast sundial
either way weapon spec does funny things with plasma
tall torrent
Knife needs uncanny strike though
paper mural
Knife needs uncanny strike though
That’s what the plasma guns for
Don’t need to be trying to kill armor with the knife
hollow ibex
If a weapon gets uncanny strike, you take uncanny strike