veteran-class

[midnight totem]

restarting not going down penance from 0

again

[frank ether]

I just take trench fighter and leave it there

no keystone for me

now that smokes are non garbage I might try a pure right path agile/wep specialist build though

[quartz portal]

Why does there appear to be variance with how much ammo you get from Survivalist? I keep restoring 1 or 2 ammo on elite/specialist kill rather than consistently 2

[radiant chasm]

rounding

you get 1.5 ammo, first proc gives, 1, second proc uses the extra half and goes to 2

[rigid pilot]

Weapon specialist CHX is my main melee vet build and it's so fun

[radiant chasm]

using 1.5 as an example

[junior needle]

Or rather a lack of rounding, it only gives you the ammo once the extra add up to a whole

[radiant chasm]

Yee

Which is good

[junior needle]

Makes it "fair" regardless of ammo pool rather than favoring certain numbers

[frank ether]

bruh

[elder fiber]

T4 decrapitator

[quartz portal]

I'ma be honest, something bugs me; The Bolter can't get into one shot territory for Dreg gunners, but can easily get into one shot range for Scab gunners.
The Helbore, Plasma rifle, and revolver can all one shot dregs and scab gunners, but the bolter can't even with Superiority complex. What gives?

[tall torrent]

It’s truly over

[tall torrent]

Headshots?

[quartz portal]

ALL headshots for all those weapons I tested.

Worse still, the Helbore and revolver did not have +25% Flak damage, but the bolter did and STILL couldn't one shot Dreg gunners.

[potent iris]

dreg gunners aren't flak

scabs are flak

[tall torrent]

Dreg gunners are unarmored head

Did u try with +10% elite dmg

[quartz portal]

Yes (for the bolter at least.

[tall torrent]

With pinning fire stacks?

Longshot?

Tag keystone?

[quartz portal]

No stacks for anything.

[junior needle]

They are flak on the body, just to clarify. But yeah it doesn't help you with dreg gunner heads.

[quartz portal]

So damage bonuses are for body part or overall armor class?

[frank ether]

it costed another 500k ordo to get this roll btw

everything else under 360

and terrible rolls

[tall torrent]

+flak only improves dmg done to flak armored parts

[tall torrent]

the true Rashad experience

I can’t relate to this

[frank ether]

I'm like, actually done with this game

[tall torrent]

Tbh this is still playable

Sprint -> Unarmored
Decap-> headtaker

[frank ether]

uninstalled

[tall torrent]

Are u trying to find a godroll tier4 perks & blessings Rashad

[frank ether]

no

I just want

non bricked combat axe

a single one

[tall torrent]

Then that axe is not bricked

It’s perfectly playable

[frank ether]

I don't want 3/4 bricked after like 4m ordo spent

[tall torrent]

BM3 is alr good

It’s not 3/4 bricked

Unyielding for boss dps is fine

Also helps u get the bulwark 2HS without any headtaker stacks

[potent iris]

right yea was assuming headshots

[tall torrent]

It’s not top tier but to say it’s unsalvageable is just not right

[frank ether]

unfuckingacceptable

after the amount of time I buried into this dogshit video game

[quartz portal]

Again, what bugs me is that the others could do it with headshots without any modifiers that help reach the one shot, but the Bolter didn't

[tall torrent]

Well u were rolling for a Rashad of all things

[junior needle]

Aren't you feeling player retained now? Does this not make you want to buy cosmetics and give obesefish more money?

According to analysts for gaming companies, it's supposed to do exactly that

[quartz portal]

Rotund Elasmobranchii

[rigid pilot]

I think if you rolling for perfect combat axes, you are pretty much retained already

[nocturne mulch]

This isn't right at all

My bolter 1 hits gunners

And that's without Flak or Elite perks

It even 1 hits ragers

[junior needle]

Thing is, caxes need to be near perfect to be functional

[bitter turtle]

depends on the body part

that's why you usually want to hit maulers in the body

they have a squishy flak body and a hard carapace head

damn

plush actually ragequit from rashad slot machine

[tall torrent]

Only 3/4 with high modifier roll requirement tbf

[wanton dawn]

Perfect roll saves talent point

[junior needle]

It's only 3/4 if you find talent point expenditures to be acceptable to make it work

[tall torrent]

4th being flak perk saves talent point and gives 2 hit scab rager but won’t give 3 hit crusher & mauler if it rolls carapace

Flak is a QoL thing

[bitter turtle]

to be fair

[junior needle]

It CAN be

[bitter turtle]

i dont really run rashad without wep specialist

[wanton dawn]

"QoL" unless you need rending strike

[bitter turtle]

so it snot hard to pick up desperado and 5%

unless you need more w/o flak

idk maybe im just spoiled but damn it feels like it swings slow without 10% speed

[wanton dawn]

Cuz rashad cannot always os dreg bruiser

You might need investment for that too

[tall torrent]

Dreg bruiser is usually 10% melee dmg investment of 2 points

Unless ur rly unlucky with rolls and become 2 dmg points off

Then it’s 3 point investment of 5% melee + CQKZ + desperado

If it still can’t get Dreg bruiser 1HS with the 3 point investment it’s bricked gg

Back to the slot machine

[wanton dawn]

I would test it but i cant rn. Dreg bruiser depend on the 4 stats roll

[tall torrent]

Yea

[tall torrent]

As someone who played martyrdom Rashad on zealot (+30~50% melee atk speed) for 2 days straight I know exactly how that feels

[dusky flare]

Just run fire team, no investment needed

[delicate oasis]

How did you know what bene is good for x or y weapon ?
Just restart game after long period & just hit 30lvl vet

[trim hemlock]

People test stuff

Either in a vacuum or in actual games

[wanton dawn]

Yeah, mostly ppl experiences

Sometimes we find hidden pearls too

Like sunder

Sometimes bis changes

Like shattering on bolter no longer being great

[agile forge]

In a few cases it's obvious (like power cycler or old Slaughterer)

Perks tend to be more spreadsheety

[wanton dawn]

The more popular a weapon, the better its meta is known

[torpid pier]

Power cycler

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-sad-flaque-alone-gif-13147324

[visual island]

I can't stop thinking about when I thought the plasma gun had an aoe so I was killing pox walkers with it

[bitter turtle]

it does have an aoe

to be fair

if you mean cleave

just not really worth shooting poxwalkers

[junior needle]

It do be hitting things in a line

[visual island]

Just such a powerful attack for hitting a poxwalker

[tiny summit]

Covering fire with plasma gun. The teammate was likely not in danger but they have full toughness now if they didnt

[umbral garnet]

That's like using a charged thunderhammer on a singular bruiser lmfao

Fuck you IN PARTICULAR

[tiny summit]

The heretic deserved it

[pliant sentinel]

Was in a match last night

[visual island]

I've been hitting pox walkers with heavy crusher power attacks

[pliant sentinel]

I was running the Cadian 802nd armor, lasgun, and powersword

there was another vet in my game

full krieg gear, hellbore lasgun, and shovel

had an absolute blast

first thing I say when we load in is "So a Kriegsman and a Cadian walk into a bar..."

He replies with "They both die"

This must be normalized

[visual island]

I had a game when I was a zealot with 3 vets and and me a zealot felt kinda out of place

[pliant sentinel]

I love those rare instances where everyone on the team is decked out in cadian armor

makes me proud to belong to a dead planet ;-;

[junior needle]

Seems there's more vitriolic console players on the subreddit than I thought

Saw a post about infantry lasguns and you got like two guys calling the full auto mod cheating

He made a comment saying he didn't care about anyone needing to use autoclickers due to psioriasis or health issues because "amputees can play just fine therefore pain on your end doesn't matter" or something

Then that comment got deleted by a mod because of how rude he was

[vernal harbor]

As long as you’re not auto killing everything i couldn’t care tbh

but i will laugh at you for having to rely on a mod to play a pve game with no end game content Lmaoo

[junior needle]

Laughs at people with carpel tunnel for having a crippling disease

In a pve game

[vernal harbor]

Cheating on a game then saying actually I have a “severe disease asshole” immediately makes that whole thing irrelevant

[tiny summit]

3 psykers, me a vet. They open with "ah greetings siblings"

[vernal harbor]

that’s like using auto aim and then saying “you know I don’t have arms right.”

Mf no

[coral bloom]

Haha

Bet the kiddos will cry once its them though. Give it time xD

[vernal harbor]

All i see is that you’re cheating 💀

[junior needle]

There's no mod to "autokill everything" or any aimbots on nexus

So if you're referring to aimbots specifically then sure

But like

An autoclicker in a pve game

[tiny summit]

I played majority of this game without full auto mod. It's made no difference to how fast I fired besides convenience. I mean a PvE game should also just let you have full auto as a setting

[junior needle]

When fatshark explicitly allows it

[pliant sentinel]

you guys actually acknowledge redditor's opinions?

kek

[coral bloom]

Vtide modded tournament as far as I remember autoclicker was accepted by the rules, Macros for weaponswapping werent. For example.

[pliant sentinel]

listening to redditors is like falling to chaos

heresy

[foggy rune]

Get them a dreadnought

[junior needle]

Not sure what a weaponswapping macro would help you with

[vernal harbor]

Fatshark couldn’t stop mods even if they wanted to but an auto clicker is pretty low level mod anyway

[junior needle]

They could, they sidelined easy anticheat specifically to allow for mods.

[pliant sentinel]

reject autoclickers, embrace for the drip

[coral bloom]

Animation cancelling. Vtide specially popular is twinned axes animation cancel for like 30% more attacksspeed.
Maybe darktide has less weapons that benefit

[vernal harbor]

Darktide is made of straw and insanely unmonitored is what I mean

The anti cheat is like a wall of spittle

It’s just why would you try so hard

So no one really does

[rigid pilot]

i mean the entire code is available online for anyone to read lol

[junior needle]

That's because they purposefully gimped it, unless you're saying easy anticheat is like that by default

[coral bloom]

Who gives a crap? xD Again its pve.
Ive encountered one case of aimbotter in my 500 hours, will just avoid that player. Problem solved well enough.
Love me mods.

[junior needle]

In which case, why

[rigid pilot]

it just there to prevent the very lazy/poor cheaters

[vernal harbor]

I’m saying fatshark is wildly incompetent when it comes to stuff like this and it’s never really something they care about so it’s not really “we’ll allow it” it’s more “that’s too much work”

[foggy rune]

Who the hell needs aimbot in a game where the enemies stand still or run in a straight line

[junior needle]

Oh ok, so that goes into "abusing game technicalities at an inhuman level for above intended benefit"

Instead of "just clicking the gun at the allowed fire rate"

[coral bloom]

Unlike every other online game where cheating never happens. They are all incompetent ofc

[vernal harbor]

that’s what we’re saying is it’s all irrelevant unless you’re just removing everyone’s fun

[pliant sentinel]

"Once I understood the weakness of my aim, it disgusted me. I embraced the cheat god"

Ahh mfs

[junior needle]

I can see why it's like that for a tournament

Frankly a lot of qol features for the mods should make be made baseline

[vernal harbor]

Mf they can’t even fix my cosmetic from half a year ago and I still regularly clip out of maps and just end up in an empty map of no enemies

[foggy rune]

Like a scoreboard?

[rigid pilot]

true, but they are slowly adding stuff in, like in patch17

[junior needle]

They could have made a scoreboard, they just chose not to

[vernal harbor]

They did tho

Whole ass thing

[junior needle]

Excuse me, they could have IMPLEMENTED a scoreboard

But chose not to

[rigid pilot]

the game actually keep tracks of all the data and mods just pull those out, so they did want a scoreboard early on

[junior needle]

Just like weapon attachments

[vernal harbor]

Ironically I hate a lot of their decisions but 100% that scoreboard would not make things better

[rigid pilot]

yea thats a bummer

[coral bloom]

I mean alot of players cannot handle a scoreboard.
I cant really fault FS for that, its a valiant effort.

God knows getting shot in the back in vtide 2 bc people want trashkills for score got annoying.

[rigid pilot]

just remove friendly fire

[junior needle]

Agree

[vernal harbor]

the deterrent toward score chasers alone is reason enough to keep it out

[junior needle]

Remove ff

[coral bloom]

That helped for sure xD

[vernal harbor]

Remove darktide man fuck it

[rigid pilot]

now i just do the elevator jerk off

[vernal harbor]

Just make a new game with space marines

i wunna play space marine

BEEN SAYIN THIS FOR YEARS RAHHHH

[rigid pilot]

cancelled

[pliant sentinel]

1984

[vernal harbor]

Dead

[coral bloom]

I did try reforged or w/e its called a year or two back. Never played the release sadly. Cool game.
The remade is still active afaik, try it

[vernal harbor]

Warhammer online is cause for the fatshark secret police to come

[coral bloom]

Wait the comment was deleted?

[pliant sentinel]

too many emojis

kek

[foggy rune]

But why?

[coral bloom]

Return of reckoning. Check it if you havent gilly

[pliant sentinel]

NO WAY

RAHHHHHHH

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-rage-roar-raaaah-smash-gif-4892516

[pliant sentinel]

We need to get together and play

Tbh there needs to be a 40k MMORPG

would deadass kill for that

[vernal harbor]

I don’t have the answer but my theory that GW is allergic to making money prevents any mmo to take off

Or any other game

[pliant sentinel]

they act like fallout can't be modded

[junior needle]

But yeah, I thought it was funny that a moral puritan about minor advantages in a pve video game just casually goes "yeah fuck anyone with a crippling disease who couldn't play without it, just be in constant pain pussy"

[rigid pilot]

what

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

This guy from this post I saw on reddit

[zealous wyvern]

automod isnt cheating

it doesnt do anything whatsoever to benefit you

gameplay wise

all it does is save your mouse-replacements and tendon damage

anyone thinking otherwise doesnt know the point of cheating

[junior needle]

Nuh uh, any form of external tool or automation of simple tasks is just as much cheating as aimbotting. I am very smart.

[zealous wyvern]

tbh if anything it will WASTE ammo

damaging your performance

[junior needle]

Even if the developers explicitly allow it

[zealous wyvern]

nah

they allow some cheats

but theyre all very light-handed

so its fine

this one is not one of those tho

[junior needle]

Autofire?

[zealous wyvern]

this one literally does not at all improve your game performance

so its not even a lite cheat

[junior needle]

Depends on how puritan a definition you have for cheating

[rigid pilot]

its still around 60% on the
cheating ============ accessibility
scale but i wouldnt diss anyone who uses it

[zealous wyvern]

no

what is the cheat

[junior needle]

The guy on the subreddit clearly thinks it's cheating

[zealous wyvern]

how does it get you ahead of your team? in any way?

[coral bloom]

Sign me up. Cool idea getting a bunch of new players from here.
Chaos, the good kind xD

[zealous wyvern]

can you not click twice a second without a macro?

[visual island]

Curious are yall talking about the Las guns that are single fire but you can just rapid click them?

[zealous wyvern]

ironically, the only ppl who actually get a gameplay advantage from it are those with health issues preventing them from playing normally

which is accessbility

[rigid pilot]

its alot more consistent than a human clicking, so its easier to predict the recoil etc etc

[zealous wyvern]

not cheating

[rigid pilot]

i wont use it but its because i dont need it

[pliant sentinel]

Nonsense, I represent the Cadian 89th

[foggy rune]

Looks like we got ourselves a hectic gentlemen

[zealous wyvern]

that is a negligible amount

[coral bloom]

I think any semi auto including psyker staffs

[pliant sentinel]

(homebrew militarum regiment i made)

[rigid pilot]

yea its not a big deal

psyker staff gets into iffy area

[visual island]

As a consle player I don't see the issue with auto mods not like it effects me

[junior needle]

You don't understand, not having to click repetitively is """""""cheating""""""

[zealous wyvern]

hp bars or flashlights on any weapon are arguably cheating

but

lite

but that is something that actually does something

the autoclick is nothing

[rigid pilot]

hp bars is definitely 20%

[zealous wyvern]

at all

[junior needle]

Hp bars and flashlights on weapons should be baseline in the game

[zealous wyvern]

ew

i dont want hp bars

ugly

dont you dare force me to have hp bars floating around my beautiful game

[coral bloom]

Optional

[junior needle]

Yeah, optional

[zealous wyvern]

i think i might be fine with that but then i feel like ppl would get mad at me

for trolling

by not using it

and i dont like that

[coral bloom]

Just like being rational on reddit

Or dressed in a Swedish beach

[rigid pilot]

optional is like irresponsible dev area

[vernal harbor]

Its been common enough to literally see accelerated firing from semi auto weapons so originally i was saying that in that sense its a cheat

[zealous wyvern]

that is a cheat for sure

if you shoot faster with it

[rigid pilot]

you COULD not have it, but like we designed the entire game around it sooooooo

like those map markers in single player RPGs

[zealous wyvern]

yeah thats why im glad its not a thing

[foggy rune]

They should slightly buff the flashlight for the blackout mode

[zealous wyvern]

because otherwise id have to use it to be a proper player

like this, noone can call me a troll for not having hp bars enabled

[vernal harbor]

but then it became about how im against people with disabilities who need it to play so now im saying go fuck yourself because thats such an annoying card to randomly pull

[rigid pilot]

yeap

[zealous wyvern]

and the game is meant to be playable with it

[coral bloom]

Dont get me started. Worst thing I prefer markers now. Am succcumbed to chaos

[zealous wyvern]

so im happy

markers suck

i wish that skyrim mod worked

[junior needle]

If the very hypothetical scenario of this happening, no one would be able to tell

[zealous wyvern]

all the ones i see remove markers but without actually giving you diary entries that explain where you need to go

[pliant sentinel]

Another fortress world needs your help, I'll mark it on your map

[rigid pilot]

i use irl map markers all the time, i dont think i can navigate with instructions anymore

[coral bloom]

Nostalgia over morrowind descriptions xD

[zealous wyvern]

i found a mod thats meant to do that

but then it just didnt

i still dont know why it didnt work

it shouldnt be that vulnerable to error. its literally just text entries in a page

[austere pine]

sniper gauntlet got hands actually

[vernal harbor]

complicated directions in the read me and then its textures dont look like anything morrowind related and sticks out like a sore thumb lmao

[pliant sentinel]

Me when a fortress world falls to no less than 30 orks

minutemen sigh

[zealous wyvern]

should have prayed harder

[junior needle]

Some people are elitist jerks and use it as an excuse to say "no one is allowed to use anything I can't or don't want to"

[coral bloom]

You need orcs for perimeter around the fortress world.
Maybe with that disease, name escapes me, that only lets you be aware of things to the left or right.
Place orcs like chess pieces

[vernal harbor]

when your 10,000 year old bastion homeworld against hell itself fucking explodes and the galaxy is torn in two and everyone just tells you to shut the fuck up and get over it cadian sound effects

[pliant sentinel]

sad cadian noises

[foggy rune]

🎉

[pliant sentinel]

"B-but the planet broke before the guard did!"

[zealous wyvern]

its true

[pliant sentinel]

"True, however, cope"

[zealous wyvern]

good men and women

the lot of them

[pliant sentinel]

Aye

never forget

[zealous wyvern]

cadian shaming is cringe

[pliant sentinel]

I'm not shaming them

I just like the memes

[vernal harbor]

cutthroat gets a lot of shit but at the end of the day everyone knows cadia and aint no one heard of mf atoma

[foggy rune]

I am

[pliant sentinel]

I'm a cadian myself

[pliant sentinel]

cutthroat is just a realist

[vernal harbor]

uh same actually

[pliant sentinel]

Haha canadian spec ops goes brrr

[vernal harbor]

cutthroat is a guilt ridden scared child who needs a hug

[pliant sentinel]

ong

[vernal harbor]

or at least one cadian to vibe with

[pliant sentinel]

I love bargain bin alderaan

at least our people are still alive

[austere pine]

executioner's stance+braced autoguns good?

[pliant sentinel]

why braced

just use infantry

[austere pine]

cuz i like braced

"just use ciag"

i have and i need new stuff

[pliant sentinel]

actually use headhunter

agripnaa variant

[austere pine]

grut headhunter

[pliant sentinel]

blasphemy

don't you dare shit on the GOAT gun

[foggy rune]

Bolter is more fun

[coral bloom]

Another using Agri HH?
Our numbers double.

[pliant sentinel]

If I had a nickel for every time someone preferred burst fire over semi automatic, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's still weird it happened.

[coral bloom]

xD
Idd
The amount of times people go off on me telling me to swap weapon makes it worth it.
"X better"
"But I wanna click gunner head at long range"
"No you dont X is better"

[pliant sentinel]

I typically prefer lasguns

[austere pine]

same reason why i'm asking if braced+exe good

[pliant sentinel]

but I don't deny the usefulness of autoguns

[rigid pilot]

how "good" do you want it to be 🤔

[pliant sentinel]

I would say using an IAG or HHAG allows you to get more value out of exe

that's just my opinion though

[coral bloom]

I couldnt tell you about braced. It seems to good if you wanna kill stuff in front but dislike aiming.
Or want another melee weapon, which I already have a chainaxe sooo

[austere pine]

i suppose the question is if the extra crit chance sucks for braced

[pliant sentinel]

BAGs are nice, but I prefer aiming

no idea

[rigid pilot]

exe doesnt have extra crit chance...?

[foggy rune]

You guys know the mode where no ammo spawns and it mostly melee enemies?

[rigid pilot]

or do you mean deadshot

[austere pine]

wait it's weakspot?

[rigid pilot]

yea

[austere pine]

i confused

either way, it's finesse

[coral bloom]

Weakspot and raw damage 25% each afaik. Or finesse over weak?

[rigid pilot]

yea braced just mainly benfits from the raw

[austere pine]

i mean, 25% until i run out of meat to shoot is pretty good in my eyes

[rigid pilot]

and reduced spread(?)

it used to be alot better because of 75% toughness DR before patch 13

[coral bloom]

I notice this the most on bolter Sway.
Makes Agri HH a laser though

[rigid pilot]

shout is probably still better in more situations than exe but its still runnable

[agile forge]

Love Exe on CIAG

It totally negates the recoil

[austere pine]

ciag infiltrate funny i feel

but yeah truth

[coral bloom]

Oh not claiming shout isnt better. Exe still is good though.

[agile forge]

And CIAG has great headshot modifiers already

[junior needle]

I wouldn't call exe good, it's mid compared to pbb and scriers

[austere pine]

do i want revive on shout?

[agile forge]

Like, Maximum Gun CIAG Vet is so much fun it's worth being a little weaker than a proper shout vet

[rigid pilot]

IAG has better headshot modifiers than HH

because

[austere pine]

33% cd increase and 50% range decrease feels bad

[agile forge]

Nope

[junior needle]

overshield

[agile forge]

You want the CD as short as possible

[junior needle]

jkust overshield

[rigid pilot]

overshield is too stupid good

[agile forge]

And you don't want to hold it for people dying

[rigid pilot]

blocks snipers and bursters

[agile forge]

Spam that fucker

[junior needle]

Overshield is a constant stupidity buffer that prevents death and chip damage for you and your team

[rigid pilot]

with the concentration stimm lol, lmao even

[austere pine]

this

[slow spade]

VoC needs a buff

[austere pine]

• 🤓

[rigid pilot]

ezbait

[low oar]

We should buff plasma

[rigid pilot]

powersword still feels weak, any thoughts?

[slow spade]

+100 toughness pls

[rigid pilot]

i think 2shot crusher still doesnt sell me on the fantasy

needs to be 0.5shot

[slow spade]

+3 charged attacks, infinite cleave, and no damage dropoff

AKA release psword stats 😎

[agile forge]

Nerf Achlys combat axe

[midnight totem]

Power axe when

[austere pine]

for braced gun?

[midnight totem]

Chance to accidently touch the power swords blade when energized and lose your own toughness or health

[midnight totem]

Is the gun your primary weapon?

I'd take out that close in node on the right and take onslaught node instead

Unless your melee can deal with crushers and maulers

And even then

[austere pine]

powersword

i like switching between the guns

skirmisher no good

wait i see it

don't yell at me

[midnight totem]

Then I'd take out the dive and duck node

[austere pine]

there

[coral bloom]

I still havent even tried powersword.
Waiting for emprah to give cycler 4. Any day now.

[midnight totem]

Grab the one with melee crit and finesse instead

[austere pine]

how the hel do i even grab things that way

[midnight totem]

Keep the close in, remove the stamina on ranged dodge

[austere pine]

got 1 more

demolition team goated

[midnight totem]

Rending down the center

[austere pine]

rending is bleed?

[midnight totem]

It's armor pierce

[austere pine]

O.O

this is my bottom bit

[midnight totem]

It looks good.

[austere pine]

ooh i'm getting yelled at

[midnight totem]

Huh?

[austere pine]

i fear showing people my creations

[tiny summit]

Demo team for more frags

[midnight totem]

Ya shouldn't

[tiny summit]

Don't I post abominations

[austere pine]

small problem big man

[tiny summit]

Yea you should

More frags

[austere pine]

@tiny summit so in your eyes, should i go no keystone to get demo team?

enlighten me, o, great one

[tiny summit]

I just like demo team, it's a pure flex point between rending and demo team for me

But you already have stockpile so not having demo team is fine

[austere pine]

man decisions decisions

what brauto do i go for

[tiny summit]

Agri or graia

[austere pine]

agri for big dmg, columbus or graia

[tiny summit]

Agri let's you shoot through ogryn teammates, graia has more dakka while braced

[austere pine]

bought one of each from brunt. gonna test em out

man agri has some horseshit hip fire accuracy

[tiny summit]

Columnus is fine too, there's just nothing special about it being the middle child.

[austere pine]

that is not a fair gun

[tiny summit]

What?

It's hipfire is very generous

[austere pine]

yeah that's what i mean

like, i brace and i hit nothing

i hipfire and i hit most shots

[tiny summit]

Ah

Yea braced isn't exactly...more accurate. It "levels" your spread for hordes

[austere pine]

i bought graia infantry autogun

...

[tiny summit]

Graia IAG is nice

[austere pine]

not saying it isn't but i wanted to test graia braced

[tiny summit]

[austere pine]

sold a garbage london shank

[tiny summit]

Most notable things about graia brauto is near 1000 round reserve and higher fire rate while braced

[austere pine]

SO MUCH DAKKA

[midnight totem]

Graia is a mg42

Agri is a .30 cal

[austere pine]

i can mow through 2 maulers in a mag

maybe 3 if god-emperor wills it

[midnight totem]

Max ranged specialist swap to the brauto is quite beautiful

[austere pine]

almost

this is an A10 warthog in my hands i fear

1 mag on 10 stacks. most were weakspots

[coral bloom]

OR, OR
1 chainaxe rev headshot and swap target as crusher is dying.

[austere pine]

cringe

chainaxe

if chainaxe has a million haters, i am one of them

[coral bloom]

People using their gun for bad targets is weird. But if you enjoy, then enjoy

[austere pine]

if chainaxe has a hundred haters, i am one of them

if chainaxe has no haters then i am no longer on this plane of existence

and it wasn't even about using it for the wrong target

[coral bloom]

Those other planes may be completely devoid of chainaxes though

[austere pine]

i was testing how much damage it can deal altogether since everything else dies before i can fully magdump

dudes at columbus really know how to make guns though

ciag and columbus braced are both my favorites

wait are poxwalkers frail or smth?

[serene bough]

Theyre more tanky than groaners at least

[austere pine]

more tanky but flail around it seems

[tame lodge]

oh yeah, baby

[wanton dawn]

Agri brauto wins due to cleave mostly

[tame lodge]

they all become like fish on a barrel

specially because they get scared by brauto

[wanton dawn]

On mono target i think agri and columnus are similar dps

But agri tear through horde like butter

[gaunt hinge]

lowkey starving for new content

[junior needle]

I should do an ammo efficiency comparison on the agri and graia

[junior needle]

Let's see, on paper with baseline values and crits not accounted for, the agri brauto can do 68540 damage to flak with its ammo reserve. The graia can do 66600.

This likely has something to do with the agri having stopping power though

So the agri has a 90%~ near distance modifier to flak, while the graia has about 75%

[radiant chasm]

Agri brauto is my baby

I can one mag reapers through a horde with my FF DS brauto

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[junior needle]

I don't think it's unlimited power if you have to reload eventually

[slow spade]

Clearly we need autoloading guns then

[wanton dawn]

What if we took ogryn ult and put it on exe stance ?

[serene bough]

bullcharge

[trim hemlock]

But which Ogryn ability

[wanton dawn]

The taunt obv

Except it trigger ogryns teammates

[serene bough]

ult to kindly help the rest of your team to get closer to their revive penance benchmark

[balmy flume]

Drum mag or belt fed ammo weapon mods when

[rare prawn]

Is it just me having this issue ?

nvm normal now, though it took a few tries

[frail bolt]

any word on the new drip this week?

[tall torrent]

We’ll find out on Thursday

[frail bolt]

eck. Hate waiting

I need to know if there's something that pulls be back into darktide

[tall torrent]

There’ll be an update eventually

[frail bolt]

tru

in the meantime, i guess I'll stick with guardsmen/dreadnought simulator

[peak badge]

is this good

[sinful jacinth]

Looks good to me.

[forest scaffold]

change shattering impact to blaze away

change carapace to maniac

[peak badge]

I have maniac on my chainsword

[sinful jacinth]

Maybe he just want to blast Crushers? :p

[tall torrent]

This is like, 4/4 bad lol

[sinful jacinth]

I seen a lot worse.

[tall torrent]

Also low stopping power

[peak badge]

my build is mostly anti monstrosity/crusher

[tall torrent]

U don’t need carapace on plasma

[sinful jacinth]

It's still survivable that's all it counts.

[peak badge]

thats what i pair it with

[sinful jacinth]

He can get a perfect one later on.

[peak badge]

i only have glory hunter and brittleness for tier 4

[tall torrent]

Swap carapace to elite, shattering to gets hot

[tall torrent]

Then gloryhunter

[open cosmos]

the tier is almost never as important as what the blessing is. Most blessings difference between tier 3 and tier 4 is very small

The exception mostly being when a small damage difference affects breakpoints in a way where its not worth it

[peak badge]

hmm.. ok looks like i'll have to save up for another

[sinful jacinth]

What Cinnamon said. Just use gets hot t3 if you have it.

[trim steppe]

Yeah shattering is the worst of the 4 blessings for plasma. Gets hot would be #1, followed by Glory or Blaze. Carapace is fine but you'd probably get more benefit out of flak or elite

[outer wolf]

Guys, is Redirect Fire! worth picking?

[peak badge]

ok i'll swap shattering for gloryhunter

I dont like blaze away myself because i use the charged up shots a lot

[tall torrent]

If it helps with ur breakpoints, yes

[tall torrent]

Don’t use charged shots on plasma

[trim steppe]

I also don't like blaze away very much, I always want to use Gets Hot and Gloryhunter. You should consider using charged shots less; they are overkill for most enemies, just more heat and ammo, and can kill you if you overheat. Spamming left clicks is better in 99% of situations. But you do you

[peak badge]

i play maelstrom auric with nurgles blessing and find it helps me actually kill shit

[outer wolf]

Not sure then

[tall torrent]

What weapons are u using

[outer wolf]

Zarona + Shovel

[trim steppe]

Just telling ya the math is better on uncharged shots. Building your gun to meet uncharged shots breakpoints will make your plasma gun like 3x better. But again do what you like, I'm just talking about minmaxing

[tall torrent]

You’re probably better off going weapon specialist instead of focus target

[peak badge]

that makes sense I just played with blaze away and didnt like how fast i have to shoot to keep the perk going

[outer wolf]

Hmmm never thought about that. Ty. Any idea of a good build to try it out?

[tall torrent]

Which shovel are u using

[outer wolf]

standard. Non-foldable.

[tall torrent]

Try this out

[outer wolf]

Thanks a lot. Let's have a look

[trim steppe]

Yeah I 100% agree, it's why I don't use blaze. I have to spam so fast to keep the stacks up that I end up missing shots or wasting ammo. If it gave you even .25 seconds more before stacks fell off id probably use it

[peak badge]

I agree

[trim steppe]

But even without blaze away uncharged shots still rule over charged. I only use charged shots for crusher packs and occasionally maulers packs if I can line up huge cleave shots. For literally everything else it's uncharged spam

[crimson pebble]

Does the charge add more cleave?

[wanton dawn]

Yes. Still not worth it

Does not cleave carapace anyway

[crimson pebble]

Iv been running it w gets hot and blaze away w knife on bottom right keystone and its been fucking p well

[wanton dawn]

Uncharged plasma already cleave through 6 maulers body

And charged or not, no cleaving through crusher

[crimson pebble]

Does it meet most breakpoints for mutants regularly w out perk on uncharged

[wanton dawn]

Hard to say. Not essential though cuz plasma will stop mutie on hs anyway

[crimson pebble]

Im mainly meaning for trapper and flamers

[wanton dawn]

Idk. Probably fine for hs, dunno for body.

My plasma build have tons of conditional dmg buff so without testing setup i cannot say for sure

[trim steppe]

You mean maniacs? On hs an uncharged will kill all of them, hitting the 1-shot on body depends on a bunch of stuff but it's possible on all of them afaik

[crimson pebble]

Would you say itd constitute being worth brining maniac perk or nah

[open cosmos]

Maniacs is a perk, mutants is an enemy, you breakpoint enemies not perks

[trim steppe]

Maniacs is an armor type

[open cosmos]

Maniacs is an armor type with a corresponding perk. Asking if you "breakpoint maniacs" doesnt make as much sense as asking if you "breakpoint mutants" which is what he asked.

You corrected his question to a different question that makes less sense

[trim steppe]

No, he followed it up saying he mostly means flamers and trappers. Which are maniac armor types along with mutants. So I was clarifying

[open cosmos]

My mistake 🤡

🤡 🤡 🤡

[trim steppe]

All good lol

[crimson pebble]

Did mean to say maniac

But would it be worth or mid

[wanton dawn]

Id say nah

Would probably only help on mutie and dreg rager

Which are not huge plasma threat

[trim steppe]

I'd say it depends on your plasma and your build. Plasma is really close to a lot of breakpoints and there's lots of ways to push it over. It just depends on what you want to kill faster and more consistently

[crimson pebble]

So its either flak cara or unyielding for the most part

[wanton dawn]

Mine is either carapace/flak or carapace/unyielding. Depending on maelstrom mod.

[trim steppe]

I ran mine with flak and elite/unyielding and it worked very well

[wanton dawn]

Carapace being locked

[forest scaffold]

maniac on your plasma gun is for osbps on flamers

can your chainsword one shot a flamer?

no

[terse idol]

Hmm I'd say it isn't close to many breakpoints it's an on and off switch wether or not you'll make the break points

[forest scaffold]

put it on the plasma gun

[terse idol]

Since you only need the dredge gunner bp

[rugged garnet]

I go with caprace and flak armour

[crimson pebble]

This w knife gets hot and blaze away on plasma

[wanton dawn]

Why ppl need dreg gunner bp though

[trim steppe]

Cuz having to 2-tap 50 of them in a mission is the main waste of ammo you'll run into

[wanton dawn]

Then i must be pretty oblivious

[terse idol]

makes the pgun more braindead

Easier to use

[forest scaffold]

well, its either unarmored on your plasma gun

or 7 perks in the tree and massively extenuating circumstances to get it

like not having anyone within 8 meters of you

[terse idol]

Like, you still hit crusher with a 3 shot even with + cara

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[forest scaffold]

and the gunner needing to be 15 meters away or further

[terse idol]

Pggun dead

as in braindead

[forest scaffold]

the last time I posted this gif it got deleted by a moderater

as like an fyi

[wanton dawn]

I am, impossible to convince, on dreg gunner

No need to try

[forest scaffold]

I dunno

its not a dead pick

or even a bad one

[rugged garnet]

Hit registration needs to be fixed big time

[forest scaffold]

what else are you gonna grab other than maniac

[rugged garnet]

A rock

[forest scaffold]

there's like 19 other perks that all hit extremely thin bps

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I think literally every single perk on the plasma gun hits some kind of BP

[tall torrent]

Why do u need onslaught on knife

[trim steppe]

I'm not sure tbh, plasma breakpoints are hard to know without testing in the psych. I'd shoot stuff in there and see how close you are to HS and body shot breakpoints and change your perk(s) accordingly. I'd test flak damage and elite damage and see how they do for you

[crimson pebble]

Does it not work for plasma spam

[terse idol]

well dats okie but what else is ther et o build

[tall torrent]

Onslaught legit benefits neither plasma nor knife lol

[peak badge]

when you want to sup and another vet already has ammo regen

[trim steppe]

Everything you shoot will be dead in 1-2 shots, so at most onslaught is adding like 2.5%. It's not worth when vet talent points are so valuable

[tall torrent]

Pls don’t actually play this

[wanton dawn]

Flak/carapace for no ammo. Otherwise i take unyielding for boss/ogryns. I guess i could try elite

[peak badge]

I beat the karnak twins secret hard mode with this lmao

[crimson pebble]

Guh moment

[trim steppe]

Unyielding meets a reaper bp iirc. I wouldn't take it just for bosses tho, bosses are an ammo sink, I'd rather melee/nade them if I'm running plasma.

[wanton dawn]

I dont shoot boss. Unless i have too. Which include ppl running to narnia

Which is a wipe scenario

[crimson pebble]

So plasma goes through bullwerk right is it still taking that as unyielding dmg through the shield

[rugged garnet]

Plasma is for weak

[trim steppe]

Plasma can uncharged shot a bulwark to open the shield then tap in the head for consistent 2-shots. I can't remember if you need a perk for this tho...

[wanton dawn]

I dont play plasma that much these day. Pretty much only in no ammo or in my hybrid build

[peak badge]

i used plasma before its venting did toughness dmg

[trim steppe]

Yeah same, I ran it a bunch at the start of patch 15 and haven't run it in weeks

I'm too obsessed with agri brauto Terminator shenanigans atm lol

[wanton dawn]

I like bolter atm

Exe stance deadshot bolter in fog maelstrom is bliss

Easiest 200+ elite ranged kill per game

[trim steppe]

I haven't run Bolter since before the class overhaul. I should give it another whirl

[wanton dawn]

I ran like this. I am considering removing tac reload but hey, tac does help with ult refresh

I need to check suppression impact one day

[midnight totem]

This for bolter?

[wanton dawn]

Yuh

[midnight totem]

Why not take outline all human sized enemies?

Then every human sized enemy can refresh ult too

[wanton dawn]

Cuz you have other stuff to shoot

[midnight totem]

There's always other stuff to shoot

[wanton dawn]

I will just post my gameplay and not explain further: https://youtu.be/25eC9HOnQxk?si=IKN0MdKK0OnKrPYY

[midnight totem]

Hey if it works for you, that's fine. I just like easy refreshes on the little ones to keep a chain going

[wanton dawn]

I never valued shooter outline on bolter since beta day

I would consider ogryn highligh over it

[odd sparrow]

Shooter outline on bolter is ok at best. Since you dont really need exe stance to 1tap things anyway

[white minnow]

tbf ogryn highlight back then was +75% ogryn damage as well

loved that shit

[wanton dawn]

Back with unweakened monstro in monstro marlstrom

You could one mag a boss

[tropic imp]

Really cool build

[idle swallow]

Exe stance ogryn highlight with bolter is my preference, bolter is fun I like it

Probably could do a bit better cuz mine has gloryhunter locked instead of surgical but still it good

[tulip dirge]

Is the shout ability, good choice? trying to support your team? Or DPS is better?

[wanton dawn]

Shout is always good. Best default choice

[pliant sentinel]

FUS ROH DAH

[wanton dawn]

Dont say that i dont want another remaster

[tulip dirge]

got told the sneak is best ability lol

[pliant sentinel]

in their tongue he is Dovahkiin: Dragonborn

[tulip dirge]

I've simply got told melee veteran, and shout isn't good, I should focus on special theat and not hords

[wanton dawn]

As far as general use case is concerned, shout is better

Saying shout isnt good is a bad take

[pliant sentinel]

whoever told you that is one of two things: a shout hater or a hate shouter

[tulip dirge]

lv 30 + something, psyker lol

[pliant sentinel]

checks out

[wanton dawn]

Well sorry, i am only lvl 1200+ vet with bad gameplay

[rugged garnet]

Vet is very good

[pliant sentinel]

sorry we actually main the class more like

[rugged garnet]

I run a bleed build with my Vet

[wanton dawn]

You can never go wrong with shout. It is always usable on all build and it requires the least amount of investment

[pliant sentinel]

I love it when people who main the most OP build in the game (Psyker), try to shit talk vet players

[wanton dawn]

Well, i rephrase: you can go wrong by taking the rez node

[pliant sentinel]

every five out of ten games i play, there's at least one or more psykers on the team

[wanton dawn]

Do not take it

[pliant sentinel]

i usually lose those matches

Because the psykers think their power applies IRL

and they know everything

[white minnow]

it's true

i talk to the emperor irl

[pliant sentinel]

ask him when he's coming back

shit is getting heated

[white minnow]

will do

[wanton dawn]

This is standard:

[pliant sentinel]

homie has been dead 20 decades and everything just went to shit

definition of daddy issues

the Imperium has major daddy issues

[tame lodge]

Bet he's a good father and just went to take a very deserved break

[tall torrent]

had one today lmao

Psyker + Ogryn cannot handle 1 crusher, 1 rager and a few horde enemies, blames me collecting plasteel for not helping

[empty kettle]

I run Gun Psyker, Gun zealot, Glugger and Gun veteran is it viable?

[frank basin]

Gun bros

[tame lodge]

As long as you have ammo

[jaunty sphinx]

Psyker is broken? I find Vet stronger overall

[tall torrent]

none of the classes are weak people just have very hot takes

[jaunty sphinx]

I never said weak

Just in terms of how strong compared to each other they are

[tall torrent]

I think they're around equal in terms of power

[jaunty sphinx]

They're all beasts

[tall torrent]

except ogryn

[jaunty sphinx]

Ye

[wanton dawn]

Every class is broken but only vet has ammo aura

[jaunty sphinx]

Yeah but they deserve to be good

Ogryn I mean

[tall torrent]

no ogryn is a bit too good lol

[jaunty sphinx]

Literally the only reason I'm happy vets are so common is because of that sweet sweet ammo aura when I'm playing gunlugger

[tall torrent]

but ogryn is balanced very weirdly rn like

strong class weak weapons

[slow spade]

Just for you, I swapped to the speed aura

[wanton dawn]

Litterally the reason why i dislike playing with gunlugger

[jaunty sphinx]

Don't worry I'm a gunlugger that knows what a melee weapon is

[slow spade]

I find it weird when I see gunluggers without the toughness regen talents

[jaunty sphinx]

Fr

[tall torrent]

t'augryn
6 wound zealot
5 wound assail psyker
dmg aura veteran with krak

the true quick play experience

[jaunty sphinx]

LOL

[crude fiber]

Hey martyrdom zealot is busted good lol

[wanton dawn]

I am that vet

[tall torrent]

ik martyrdom is super strong but most high wound zealots are really really bad

[crude fiber]

Love 2 shoting bosses

[tall torrent]

like I don't think they're even playing martyrdom

they just take extra wounds then not take martyrdom

[jaunty sphinx]

I wish I liked Marty but I'm gonna have to play it eventually if I want that penance

[tall torrent]

try martyrdom with combat axe

[crude fiber]

Tank build idea. Build max wounds so I can go down more and the enemies waste time hitting my downed body

[jaunty sphinx]

Noted thank you, which axe

[tall torrent]

rashad
getting +50% atk speed with +65% dmg from talent tree alone really can elevate it into a new kind of experience

[white minnow]

which penance?

the speedrun one?

[jaunty sphinx]

Thank you

[white minnow]

for that one, you want as few wounds as possible

[jaunty sphinx]

Kill enemies while below a wound threshold

[tall torrent]

I think she's saying the 1k kills with 3 stack martyrdom penance

[jaunty sphinx]

[crude fiber]

That's a thing? I didn't know lol. Vet chat is a better zealot chat then zealot chat

[slow spade]

The zealot penances are a pain in the ass

Most of my Zealot friends quit too though lol

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/985983134275366943/1212616991022653501/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.02.28_-_23.26.23.03.mp4?ex=65f27c93&is=65e00793&hm=6d793442868638b9e9fe5cd220e31337b6cff05a3a9242bd79dded6eb3a70680&

[jaunty sphinx]

I've got every non redacted vet penance so once I'm done with those imma grind out zealot's

[tall torrent]

meat grinder can't activate martyrdom stacks but

this is abt how fast u can swing (almost all the time, without blue stim)

and u kill 4 bruisers with each swing

[jaunty sphinx]

Adderall gaming

[tall torrent]

it is hilariously busted

start game. find red barrel, take fire bath till 3 wounds of health remaining, then u can play the actual game

[jaunty sphinx]

I run 1 wound crusher Zealot I get good results

[tall torrent]

the only way u can rly go down is if u try to fight 20 ragers by urself in melee

[slow spade]

Fatshark purposely increasing trapper spawns for that game

[tall torrent]

[winged warren]

955 catto

What your fav melee and why

Other than peesword

And dclaw

Like new shovel, caxe, chaxe, or chsword

[tall torrent]

rashad

I don't rly play power sword that much

[jaunty merlin]

*Laugh in voc

[winged warren]

Hmm I like rashad alot too. Very stronk and reliable. Good mobility.

But the hit animations kinda get boring and reprieve after a while

[tall torrent]

zealot doesn't have

[jaunty merlin]

Ah, fair lol

[lyric dock]

Though Zealot has like couple of different ways of getting themselves out of almost every bad situation

[jaunty merlin]

chorus of spiritual fortitude is pretty beast for that. The best "Oh shit" button that last for a good while

[lyric dock]

And if used on a ledge. Removes any problem

Crusher ball? Pit!

Rager Orgy? Pit!

[winged warren]

Mr Catto, is there any weapon slightly better at horde than Rashad, in exchange for slightly shittier crusher damage

[lyric dock]

Badly timed Chaos spawn. You guessed it. Pit!

[winged warren]

Slightly better horde/elite kill

[tall torrent]

for veteran?

[lyric dock]

Couple of charged Power sword swings and will make most hordes into mince meat easily

[tall torrent]

maybe chainsword4

[atomic zephyr]

chainswords dont do much to carapace though

[tall torrent]

2 heavy rev HS

[lyric dock]

Chainsword is also a good choice

[tall torrent]

mauler can 1 rev with bloodletter

[winged warren]

Yes sir and thank you very much
HS mean headshot?

[tall torrent]

rashad is overall hard to beat

[tall torrent]

yea

[winged warren]

And just quick question, how chsword compare to chaxe. I assume chaxe is like Rashad but crusher instead of 3 hits like rashad irs one long rev hit to kill. I saw Japanese name guy weapon guide

[tall torrent]

chainaxe is hyper specialized anti-elite weapon

not that great at horde

[winged warren]

Worse than rashad at horde?

[tall torrent]

by a lot

[lyric dock]

Chain axe is really great "Fuck this one enemy in particular"

[winged warren]

Thanks alot chsword it is.

[umbral scaffold]

Rashad?

[winged warren]

Idk I will wither grind out God roll rashad or God roll chaword

[lyric dock]

I say Chain sword

[winged warren]

Rashad pretty reliable and mobility good. It's just after a while the samey hit anims get pretty boring

[lyric dock]

I used the Rashad a few times and didn't like. Been using the Power sword as my Vet Melee secondary melee weapon (Primary melee is the MK 2 Hellbore Bayonet)

[winged warren]

If chsword had same bps on shotgunners and gunners I may just very well run chsword

Peesword is get

Gey

[terse idol]

Well because the rashad needs a specific build to actually be a weapon

Unless you kinda know how you build one it's pretty mid-bad tier

[umbral scaffold]

Mk4 psword has a two charge attack combo with both swings being wide swings, it's special means it will cleave through even many slight tougher foes too.

[winged warren]

All you need is BM what you mean
Just God roll one and you are all good

[lyric dock]

That expains it. Thanks mate

[terse idol]

I mean you need head taker, Unarmoured, BM

[winged warren]

Catto can you confirm

[terse idol]

Minimum damage of 70

[tall torrent]

godroll is unarmored +flak/carapace, BM + Headtaker

[terse idol]

In all damage stats

[winged warren]

70 is pretty lenient

Ngl.

[tall torrent]

u have to get at least unarmored, BM and headtaker

and high rolls in dmg, penetration, finesse and first target

[umbral scaffold]

Sorry, I mean the Mk6 psword, not Mk4

[terse idol]

Well with BM, Headtaker, and MINIMUM unarmoured you're still looking for 2 out of 4 perks or blessings to be good.

[winged warren]

Yeah 3/4 and at least 70 for all damage stats is lenient as hell

[terse idol]

Uh, very few weapons need these kinds of requirements though is what I'm saying

And I mean if you want the best-best you're looking at 80 damage in all damage stats

[winged warren]

955 Catto plos confirm

[terse idol]

Because the 80 damage actually matters

[tall torrent]

no they don't

like I said rashad is hard to beat

[winged warren]

I think 80 damage and 80 pen, with first target and finese > 75 is enough no? @terse idol

[terse idol]

No you need 80 because of weakpoint damage

[winged warren]

Very sad.

[terse idol]

You won't meet a crusher BP if you want to run minimum talents

As in, you need all damage stats to 80 meet what... a 2 or 3 hit crusher BP without added talents

[winged warren]

Ok time to hit level 30 fast and God roll a caxe

[terse idol]

[winged warren]

I estimate 20k plasteels and prob 1.5million dockets

Very sad.

[lyric dock]

Hadron: Oh my. Someone making a god roll X. Time to deny them their dreams!

[terse idol]

The issue with a minimum rashad like I have is I need to commit alot of talents to meet a crusher BP

Hence why, it's pretty stat dependant

[winged warren]

But peesword is gey so I won't touch it.

[tall torrent]

set ur budget to somewhere like 8M dockets

[winged warren]

Peegun as well

[terse idol]

What's wrong with gey

[tall torrent]

I am not joking

[terse idol]

It's just a dumb weapon 😌

[winged warren]

For dumbo peepo

[winged warren]

Very sad

[trim steppe]

Doesn't Rashad need bm+headtaker+unarmored+flak? And the 4 damage stats?

[terse idol]

Yeath, flak or cara

But the rest is mandatory

And i did talk to bandit and seemingly any BM might work?

[trim steppe]

Cara for crusher bp, but then don't you lose the dreg bruiser 1shot bp?

[winged warren]

That's like around idk. 40 hours of play?
One a5hist run give you like what. 50k?
20 run give you 1 mil
160run give you 8 mil
160 run averages to 80 hours.
Fuck

[terse idol]

I gotta test the stat breakdoown

Peak damage rashads in theory might not need it? Flak that is, but I'm curious

[tall torrent]

u can use melee dmg talents to still get it

[terse idol]

Ohh

[lyric dock]

And this is assuming every Auric HISTG you do is successful as you could wipe a couple of times

[trim steppe]

Good to know

[trim steppe]

Yeah add 8-10 hours for 10% wipes

[frank basin]

[trim steppe]

Can someone post a god roll Rashad just for catharsis? I managed one with decimator instead of headtaker on my zealot, it's as close as I've gotten to the pinnacle

[tall torrent]

This is on my veteran

My zealot one is a bit worse (thrust instead of headtaker, carapace tier3)
Still 540 rating tho

And zealot can have martyrdom to compensate for breakpoints anyways

[trim steppe]

What a beauty

[lyric dock]

And if that doesn't work. Inject them with some Emperor approved Cocaine

[terse idol]

I know @bitter turtle has a nearly universal level rashad, 80 damage in all damage but a 79% in damage, which is making them miss a bp on a crusher.

[tall torrent]

25% carapace can solve it

[terse idol]

And this is the play without building many talents for rashad

[tall torrent]

3 overhead crusher

4 overhead crusher is standard but 3 overhead is just nice

[vernal harbor]

havent been around much to see anyone say it but are we vets all in agreement that the newst rotation blows absolute ass aside from the pants lol

[trim steppe]

closest I've come on my vet (1) and my zealot (2). Now that I look at it I need to reroll my zealot one from unarmored since he doesn't need it

[slow spade]

watch you be 1 damage off 1-hit kill on hordes now UwU

[tall torrent]

Red armor is “???”
Leather jacket is alright, some people like it

Just need some actual armor cosmetics

[bitter turtle]

no

its miss bp on bruiser

kek

[terse idol]

[bitter turtle]

without headtaker stacks

[terse idol]

Me as I spread misinformation

[bitter turtle]

cause the axe was shred/bm

i wanted to use it because fuck rolling for antoher one

but literally 1 dmg off

[buoyant narwhal]

worth it ?

[bitter turtle]

even if you run

slaughterer/headtaker setup which would probably be the best out of the options I laid down for horde killing

like in my guide

it wont compare to rashad

i tried not to talk about weapon specialities over each other, just how to build them

[trim steppe]

I would not, damage is quite low and it has 4/4 missing. It would probably work mid but not the way you want it to

[bitter turtle]

all chaxe is good for is mincing elites

[bitter turtle]

no

[junior needle]

Definitely not

Also, petition to remove the collateral stat from recons

It literally just makes things worse

[shadow aurora]

What does it do

[junior needle]

Collateral governs stagger and suppression

But recons have barely any stagger

[shadow aurora]

Oh yeah for las any amount of that is aids

[junior needle]

So all it ends up doing is making targets more wobbly while you shoot them

But doesn't stagger them

So it's harder to hit heads with your headhunter blessing

[shadow aurora]

Even if it did tbh I wouldn't want it

[junior needle]

And you need to be trained in on heads with them

Because automatic weapon

[tall torrent]

4/4 bricked gg

harvest thrust 3

[junior needle]

I assume it’s a melk weapon

[buoyant narwhal]

ya

[junior needle]

In which case I wouldn’t say it’s worth buying for thrust 3

[buoyant narwhal]

thought that damage didnt matter

[junior needle]

Whoever told you that is an idiot

[buoyant narwhal]

would swap thrust and the crit out

[junior needle]

Still wouldn’t be usable due to the particulars of how caxes function

They need brutal momentum, and they need bruiser breakpoints

Which generally means flak, unarmored, headtaker, AND good stats

You can reduce the requirements with melee damage from tree, but it’s very particular

[buoyant narwhal]

ya i prefer the atrox mk2 anyway over the rashad

[junior needle]

The tac axe?

That’s actually harder to build for bruiser breakpoints than the rashad is

And has considerably worse performance despite that

Tac axes aren’t in a very good place atm

[buoyant narwhal]

eh it doesn't feel that bad, very fun to use and beats having a shovel in every loadout

[junior needle]

I think you may have less of a frame of reference for what constitutes a good melee weapon

You’ll see once you get your hands on one

Also, if you aren’t whacking naked ragers consistently with that, you’re better off not taking maniac

[late hatch]

The problem is that getting good rolls usually means wasting too many hours rolling brunts, and i cbf most of the time tbh. just need a simple way to sink resources into actually improving an aalready good weapon instead of turning out dozens of bricks

[buoyant narwhal]

ya i mainly play solo so i grind a couple of missions if they aren't bricked to gamble 100k dockets on sub 350 rolls

[lyric dock]

My hope is we use all that we been sitting on to improve our own weapons stats or hell. Break the locks on that weapon

[buoyant narwhal]

ya

or alteast convert it into or

something useful

[trim steppe]

the game I was joining went to the defeat screen, ending my winning streak

[lyric dock]

Honestly I wouldn't count that against your win streak

[trim steppe]

I just dont like seeing red on my history feed lol

[lyric dock]

Fair nuff

No matter how strong your win streak is

Your 1 bad match away of losing it

[rigid pilot]

You could just delete it (I think)

[lyric dock]

I don't think you can, but then again I haven't use scoreboard mod in a while since switching to Power DI as my scoreboard mod

[tawny marsh]

you can delete it

Warhammer 40,000 DARKTIDE\mods\scoreboard\scripts\mods\scoreboard\history

sorry wrong place

let me find it

AppData\Roaming\Fatshark\Darktide\scoreboard_history

[woeful ibex]

Rogue Trader had somewhat collab with Darktide with the Premium Skins

Any hope we get Kasrkin Skins on March 14 too?

Because its also Skin Rotation falls on thursday

[tall torrent]

Doubt because next shop refresh drops on March07

And it rotates every 2 weeks

[woeful ibex]

wait I thought its March 14?

[tall torrent]

So it’ll be March21 after

[tall torrent]

No it’s in 2 days

[woeful ibex]

ah ok

My bad