veteran-class

[wanton dawn]

I would take tinkerer but cant spare the point

The 2 point

[tall torrent]

Unfortunate

[bitter turtle]

so how is nerfed bayonet

is the horde clear bad now

[wanton dawn]

[bitter turtle]

😔

[tall torrent]

U need to run a horde melee now

It’s over

[bitter turtle]

noooo

[trim steppe]

Brutal momentum doesn't carry over into it

[terse idol]

No brutal momentum

wops

Wrong reply

[bitter turtle]

ya I know

[wanton dawn]

Yet to try it in real game but bad feeling

[bitter turtle]

i was asking how it was

if its still usable as a melee main weapon

[trim steppe]

Ah my b

[bitter turtle]

sadge

[tall torrent]

I mean, it’s still okay at bullying ragers

[wanton dawn]

Psy testing are not good

[tall torrent]

But you need to swap to ur melee once hordes get dense

[bitter turtle]

my gunsword is dead

[trim steppe]

Speargun*

[bitter turtle]

why do they keep taking and taking from me

😔

[trim steppe]

You'll play the way they want you too and like it

[tall torrent]

Cuz BM wasn’t the main reason for it bullying ragers

[wanton dawn]

My no ammo core talent build. With one floating point

I take twin here cuz why the hell not

[tall torrent]

U can prob drop the 8 stacks modifier for smth else

8 stacks is usually only +4.5%dmg for redirect fire

[wanton dawn]

It add up with other stuff

[tall torrent]

Unless u need that for a breakpoint

[wanton dawn]

Also it is team wide

Thats like dmg aura value

And also help the keystone for boss

Tinkerer isnt worth dropping it

[tall torrent]

At least I didn’t get very much use out of 8 stacks

RF alone was good enough

[wanton dawn]

I am stacking max bang for bucks ranged dmg on this build.

I could try other stuff but usually less consistent output. Or less efficient point spent dmg wise

Plus i still have the float point

[agile yew]

Whats your suggestions for melee with Plasma? Something to clear hordes i guess to save ammo on those. Currently going with Rashad Headtaker+Brutal

[tall torrent]

Rashad, power sword, DC

[agile yew]

Id probably use Power Sword if i had +2 cycler

Only lvl 3 +1 one

[bitter turtle]

lacerate knife

jk

on top of those, i'd look at shovel as an option too if you like it

[terse idol]

juust hit up a dclaw 4 imo

Gives you a nice defensive option where the Psword doesn't (besides just killing everything realy good)

[bitter turtle]

is why is uggest shovel as well

good defensive weapon

the base one doesnt care that its meh on hard armor since >plasma anyway lul

[agile yew]

I just got Sawage Sweep lvl 4 from Melk so i guess pair that with Shred or Rampage or something?

And whats dumpstat on Dclaws?

[bitter turtle]

mobility

[agile yew]

Reciprocity+Desperado should make that work ok with high crit?

Devastating Strike is kinda meh tier blessing, but thats what i got 🤷‍♂️

Id rather take Rampage/Shred/Wrath, atleast its not stagger/impact blessing that does nothing

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/1720d865b375f17d693efd59f6bbd3b1.jpg

is 3 player mode a punishment for trying recon again

[agile yew]

Dclaw feels bit odd, have hard time getting L1H2 horde spam going smoothly and there are like infested with tiny amount of hp left constantly

Meanwhile, rashad you just l-click and everything instadies

[agile yew]

Read some ammo bug now fixed and those actually can work

[bitter turtle]

they still sucik

[blissful flame]

it's not perfect, but this one's been kicking some ass in the grinder. I'm probably swapping deathspitter for dumdum, but any other specific recommendations?

i'm thiking of swapping unyielding for maniac, and as i said, swap deathspitter for dumdum

mm, maybe flack instead of maniac

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/2ee7116ad10fb79aeb4cbcc779c04242.jpg

got outdamaged

its still trash

[umbral scaffold]

Which imperial regiments are still using gunpowder weapons (i don't mean heavy bolters but classic infantry weaponry)

[blissful flame]

i feel like in 40k, "gunpowder weapons" are classified as 'autoguns" right?

[umbral scaffold]

Yes, i believe so

[stiff glacier]

Yes

[pulsar radish]

I think most have a stubber gunner

Mounted on tanks

[woeful ibex]

Skin Rotation is up

[pulsar radish]

Mid for vets

Good for slabs

What's the other bits bronx

[woeful ibex]

here brother

[pulsar radish]

Thanks looks like that's a no touch this week lol

[low yacht]

Is this any good my plasma?

[faint beacon]

Autogun is not half bad I suppose skin wise if you're looking for a skin but yeah its overall meh, minus Ogryn

[low yacht]

The plasma itself because I cannot change blessings

[daring cedar]

Not great I think. You kinda want Blaze away+gets hot and you already have volatile locked which is fine but not great. Its definitely usable depending on last blessings but its not great.

[low yacht]

Doesn't really effect it when I use it

[daring cedar]

I personally prefer flak+unyielding/carapace but maniac is fine

Gun is broken enough that not much matters on the grand scheme of things

[low yacht]

It goes through things fine when I mark them.

I have a build set so even with not having that damage.

[daring cedar]

Your gun is fine but it's not great or perfect

[low yacht]

Maniacs has done me good so many times

[daring cedar]

I tend to find most maniacs die to your melee option/no-perk plasma easy enough that maniac on plasma is overkill but it's all personal preference

I like the unyielding/carapace more for faster boss/ogryn kills where a lot of melee option struggle

[silk hare]

can anyone pair the new coat with the chemdog helmet and send a ss? Thanks! I don't have neither of them so I can't preview them together...

[trim hemlock]

I might be able to, hang on

(even though I also don't have them, but I have a mod that lets me preview such things :) )

[trim hemlock]

Like this?

[silk hare]

Yeah, thanks a lot! looks like cool enough to buy to me

[gusty bison]

Gotta spam down trash hordes

Its what people used the recon for

[woeful ibex]

gonna test experimental Build. Flanker Support

backline and spamming Smoke to cover teammates

[vital adder]

is the in only death does duty end perk worth it

[serene bough]

is that shout revive? If so, no

[vital adder]

alrighty thanks

[pliant sentinel]

is the MK1 IAG any good?

[trim hemlock]

Yeah, it’s a solid firearm overall

[pliant sentinel]

excellent

[frank ether]

spot the recon user by looking at ammo consumption

[junior needle]

And the least amount of melee kills

[final locust]

yo

new video just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4fuv8z2YNc

these guys some kind of imperial guard or whatever?

[untold mulch]

I think those Guadsmen are Solar Auxilia

[paper wasp]

Please all I want is more armoured veterans

[terse idol]

Well, for starters you want Shred and Rampage, perks you want Flak and personally I'm using unarmoured so I can cleave scab bruisiers easier

[final locust]

its pretty cool armour ngl

[untold mulch]

Agree

[zealous wyvern]

big daddy regiment

[untold mulch]

Emperor like that scuba gear drip

[zealous wyvern]

they look like imperial navy killteam i built

navy breachers

[tidal obsidian]

Breachers look so sick it's unbelievable

[tall torrent]

can someone who got the new veteran coat check if the gloves have this same clipping issue when holding a grenade in your hand

[tiny summit]

Support is thing to call it when it is only smokes.

Not knocking it, but I just find it calling it support when it's smokes and crates

[tiny summit]

The one clutch case is when someone gets downed when everyone else dropped down

[zealous wyvern]

its always good in clutch cases

the only valid argument against it is that it nerfs your shout. if you had regular shout, the clutch may not be necessary

[tiny summit]

I think it would be looked at better if the CD increase only procc'd when it does revive someone

[spring spindle]

So question

If Scion chest piece is in files. That means we’re probably gonna get some sort of Scion set in the shop since. No chest pieces show up on the sides as extras?

[tall torrent]

Eventually yes

[tiny summit]

Eventually. There's still items in the files that haven't been officially added. So who knows

[rain badger]

That’s scuffed bro. If you do both blessings, your perks suck and vice versa. Death Spitter and Fire Frenzy are what you want with blessings.

[wanton dawn]

Dumdum on columnus

[pearl granite]

M35 Magnacore Mk II Plasma Gun Mitigated the issue of invisible and inaudible Plasma Gun shots.

[rain badger]

Meh. Everything is cucked by the phrase “close range” anyways. I prefer DS and FF personally. Really wish they would get rid of or extend the range of “close range.”

[tall torrent]

Dum Dum works at all ranges

[slow spade]

Plasma bug fix is comfy

I like my plasma having the funny trail

[pastel geode]

So a dirty version of the hive gang jacket they dropped way back

[rain badger]

Wait what, it says “close range damage.” So you can stack it up at range but the damage benefit is only on stuff close?

[wanton dawn]

Kinda

[slow spade]

I like to think of it as a damage buff on hitting people

Iirc its range is like 20m?

[rain badger]

That’s dumb, half these blessings are just dumb

[wanton dawn]

Yes it is

[rain badger]

Limiting ranged weapons…by range is just smoothbrain

[wanton dawn]

Ciag is arguably a short range weapon

[tall torrent]

The damage buff is applied at all ranges as well

[terse idol]

It makes sense

[rain badger]

[terse idol]

Like in theory blessings would bring out the best role of that weapon or change how it plays

Although yeah dum dum just applies at all ranges so uh, doesn't mattah

[tall torrent]

Dum dum is “bugged” to use code from zealot’s “anoint in blood” talent

[rain badger]

I don’t know what that means

[terse idol]

All it means is dum dum works at all ranges 🥹

Its bugged

[tall torrent]

Means you can get stacks of the dmg buff at all ranges and the dmg buff itself works at all ranges

[terse idol]

I guess... I can't tell, FS didn't patch it this patch so I dunno if they're packing it into one big balance patch or something

[rain badger]

Well goddamn, time to change some blessings around

[white minnow]

it's no longer just dumdum that works like anoint

all forms of close damage% works like anoint now

[rain badger]

That’s huge then

[pulsar radish]

Wait even fire frenzy

[white minnow]

ye

[rain badger]

I have an MKV with IV FF and IV DS on it. Haven’t played this patch yet

[tall torrent]

Yes

Although deathspitter is usually a bit more useful

[rain badger]

[obsidian umbra]

what perks and blessings do you want on plasma guns?

[analog mural]

Gets hot, blaze away

[obsidian umbra]

and what about perks? unyielding + carapace or classic flak + manic?

[analog mural]

Yeah either of those combos will work, whichever you prefer

[rain badger]

Yeah. Once you have high heat, everything is getting wrecked by crits.

[tall torrent]

elite + flak/maniac
Gets Hot + Gloryhunter/Blaze Away

[bitter furnace]

What's the best nade type for veteran?

[analog mural]

I've seen arguments for either krak or shredder

Depends on your weapon choices imo

[bitter furnace]

If your using krieger lasgun and power sword

[obsidian umbra]

i just go shredder cause going krak into survivalist takes away 1 talent point

[obsidian umbra]

krak imho then i feel

[austere pine]

bro WHAT is melk smoking that he thinks this is a good gun worth 2440

[obsidian umbra]

would work as a stealth vet gun, raking fire isnt too bad with that playstyle

[austere pine]

raking fire is fine but the low stability on columbus and punishing salvo 4 is not something i'm willing to spend that much money on

this is also kinda funky but a bit better

[tall torrent]

Frag > smoke ≈ krak

[bitter furnace]

Even if you don't run ap weapons?

[tall torrent]

This is just in general

[clever niche]

There’s no way krak is equal to smoke

[tall torrent]

Also u said you run power sword

[tall torrent]

Smoke got buffed

[bitter furnace]

Whip out the power sword against carapace armor.

[tall torrent]

This very update

[bitter furnace]

Makes sense

[tall torrent]

Yea, it’s one of the best carapace killers

[clever niche]

Crusher patrol is a factor to consider krak

[tall torrent]

Relying on krak for carapace is a bad habit

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771037708260868127/1199633351884144720/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.01.24_-_03.34.21.04.mp4?ex=65e82a9f&is=65d5b59f&hm=58002699f7cfe5f218482e44f62e1f295ca8ccbb0d9a9341e3353ac30f4ffe74&

[wanton dawn]

Krak is for boss. It works on bulwark / crushers packs

[tall torrent]

^

New smoke is pretty cool though

5m radius circular zone that lasts 15~30s where you cannot get shot by things and disables have an extra hard time tracking you when you’re inside

It’s kinda like Psyker’s dome but you can deploy 3 in quick succession with further cast range and higher uptime

[tiny summit]

Had a mk2 recon with punishing salvo and sustained fire. No way I'm gonna even entertain that in a mission

[bitter turtle]

look

its not a "recon run" if im killing everything with the rashad/psword and just holding the recon for morale support

i had to mainly pew pew to see how the gun fares

and the verdict

its still shit

[odd sparrow]

happy they buffed smoke, was quite inconsistent before. Still annoying how long it takes before it explodes tho

[tall torrent]

Yea I wish the smoke goes off immediately as it lands

[wanton dawn]

I would never have guessed

Truly a surprise

[junior needle]

Another notch on the “soldier was right again” board

[wanton dawn]

You notch "recon is shit" on your board ?

Thats kinda cheap

What does youtube say about recon though ?

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-18412682

[tender bloom]

I just play melee vet 😂

[junior needle]

I’m notching the “recon is still shit even with double the shock trooper value from last patch”

[tender bloom]

The grey revolver still king?

[junior needle]

The zarona

Yes

[wanton dawn]

Well, i dunno how any serious ppl though shocktrooper would fix recon

[junior needle]

At least a few people on here were asking that question

Technically patch 13 shocktrooper and crit strings would “fix” the 6d at least

But that’s uh, not happening again.

[wanton dawn]

Well, ppl also ask what vet chat think about some youtuber

[timid otter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJTlMspFa8

[tiny summit]

Recon covering fire build. Every poxwalker restoring 15% toughness to the team

[bitter turtle]

that sounds so optimal

[wanton dawn]

What kind of p12 video is this ?!

[bitter turtle]

just focus on shooting at poxwalkers next to your allies meleeing them

[tender bloom]

Yea I figured when I ran a t5 mission with a great revolver and it still clapped

Grey

[bitter turtle]

at the very least

[timid otter]

I dunno but i thought it was fun ny

[bitter turtle]

even though i was trying to shoot a lot

[timid otter]

stereotypical recon playstyle

[bitter turtle]

i only took 1(one) more ammo pack than the next ammo hungry guy

so the ammo usage isnt quite as bad anymore ig

[timid otter]

shot recon into poxwalker = profit

[bitter turtle]

damage is still shit though

[wanton dawn]

I dunno how ppl enjoy playing recon

[tiny summit]

Laser shows are fun

[wanton dawn]

I wont enumerate recon issue again

Its a losing battle

It needs a 100% dmg increase at minimum to justify the jank

[dreamy lantern]

ye they're still waitin a balance pass i rekon, still sat at only one model having ~1k dps but even if it had 1.0 ADM into everything it'd still be shit cause it has 0.45 finesse 💀

you could give a recon 100% rending and 100% crit chance and it'd still be the worst gun in the game

[wanton dawn]

You saw my recon / columnus comparison ? A perfectly fair match

Put a lot of effort into it

Reddit did not like it

[dreamy lantern]

i did not see it, no

i did a bunch of number crunching ages ago on the accatrans

[wanton dawn]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/19b8h98/in_the_right_circumstances_a_recon_lasgun_can/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[junior needle]

Sus fire

[dreamy lantern]

amazing work

[bitter turtle]

Aha!

You really are a redditor

that one person was right about you

Now to go through your post history

[wanton dawn]

You will be scared by my excel stuff

[bitter turtle]

i have clicked next for 400 posts and its still all excel

you disgust me

[dreamy lantern]

its funny the acca literally only looks good if you plan to bodyshot exclusivley

and even then "good" is a major stretch

[bitter turtle]

nah

you need to headshot with recon for it to look even halfway decent

for headhunter

it looks even more shit with bodyshots

[wanton dawn]

I cleaned up my history

[dreamy lantern]

no if you start headshotting the accatran immediatly looks infitley worse

cause the IAGs have like 2.0 finesse

and the same dps

[junior needle]

Last I checked IAG’s outperform them all on body shots, finesse weapons btw

They have more than 2.0

[bitter turtle]

im not saying it competes

but im p sure it looks EVEN WORSE if you bodyshot

[dreamy lantern]

na see technically at 80% dmg teh MK6 TECHNICALLY has uhhhhhh

[bitter turtle]

like 69catperson's video

[dreamy lantern]

80 more dps

[bitter turtle]

that they always post

[dreamy lantern]

[wanton dawn]

I dont think i can make recon look good in headshot contest again ciag

[bitter turtle]

i know if you actually headshot with MF and all that shit you can at least get 2.4k~ dps on a mutant

that is like

still shit

but you know

its better than like 1k dps

[junior needle]

Definitely not on maniacs or unyielding

[dreamy lantern]

its barely got better weakspot than braced autoguns

[wanton dawn]

Meanwhile ciag has 2× dmg on 4 crit string

[dreamy lantern]

but braceds have actual damage and dps

they'll prob gut the other crit strings eventually

[junior needle]

MF recon

[dreamy lantern]

crit strings just shouldn't exist

[wanton dawn]

Ppl are like: "deadshot crap on ciag". Am like "60% effective crit dumbass"

[dreamy lantern]

you'd get more out of literally any other automatic however, cause recons have bad weakspot and crit multipliers

they never got a full balance pass, a relic of a bygone age

[bitter turtle]

tha trun

was with MF recon

i remember puri or someone shilling it

like a month ago

lul

[junior needle]

Maybe the 6d does on flak if you test it without giving the IAG’s rending

[bitter turtle]

it was still pretty shit though

[junior needle]

Because that’s the bad IAG damage type

[wanton dawn]

Mf is pretty bad imo

[bitter turtle]

yeah

i think keystone less is still the way to go for recon

[wanton dawn]

It just has an identity crisis

[bitter turtle]

or focus if you insist

[dreamy lantern]

MF is great on any weapon with good weakspot if you can aim

[bitter turtle]

you know, its actually maybe intentional

look at the pictures

[dreamy lantern]

hipfiring shotguns at head height and cleaning house feels great

[wanton dawn]

Problem is: target down is so much better with deadshot

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/73095059763bc9f2021e957b2f008b0c.jpg

left tree is some dude shooting like rambo

right tree is someone carefully aiming

MF = automatics, wep specialist = snipers deepest lore confirme

[junior needle]

I can get that gray, talentless on the lesser IAG’s. Ciag gets like 2944 with the same test.

[wanton dawn]

So mf is a weird case of automatic weapon synergy ?

[bitter turtle]

well i guarantee you i wasnt trying to say it was good lol

i was just trying to maximize its dmg for that run

[wanton dawn]

Sniper wants automatic weakspot we1pon ?

[bitter turtle]

no look at the picture

the left tree isnt a sniperman

[wanton dawn]

Idk, it is just weird

[bitter turtle]

its an automatic LMG or wahtever guy shooting

[dreamy lantern]

eh kinda, it does work great on IAGs

but its better on HH and anything with finesse, since it needs a good base to work with

MF bolter is fun

[bitter turtle]

clearly fatshark actually intended MF to go with automatics!!11

and the right tree picture is like a sniper

so right tree (wep specialist) was meant for sniper

amazing fatshark lore

im half shitposting

and half not sure if that's actually the truth

[wanton dawn]

That kinda is the issue though: pure sniper weapon with low rof prefer mf

Lowish rof

But high rof weapon are not great at consistent weakspot hit

[dreamy lantern]

The IAGs are GREAT at it

Especially with exe basically removing recoil

[wanton dawn]

Yeah, but as i said: deadshot +target down

[timid otter]

Ye the vet class pictures suck

its more on FS end then the artist aswell

[bitter turtle]

you say that

but that's how it turned out anyway didnt it

[dreamy lantern]

Deadshot and target down exists and works yes

[bitter turtle]

exec stance/MF is better on ciag than something like the headhunters

[dreamy lantern]

That doesnt mean mf is bad

[bitter turtle]

than it is on most snipers

[wanton dawn]

Without deadshot iag have terrible crit. With deadshot you have between 40 to 60% effective crit

[bitter turtle]

and most sniper-y guns prefer wep specialist

maybe fatshark just was bigbrain and knew exactly how their keystones would turn out

[wanton dawn]

And it benefit your team more

And applies to melee

[bitter turtle]

and look

middle tree is someone yelling at ppl

[dreamy lantern]

you don't need deadshot for crit tho

[bitter turtle]

they knew everyone would go middle only to go yell at ppl

!!!

[dreamy lantern]

not that its a bad option, i still run it on mf

[wanton dawn]

On iag kinda, they have 3% base

[bitter turtle]

deadshot is big deeps on ciag if you can maintain

more than anything else

[dreamy lantern]

reciprocity, crit on dodge, can proc off ranged attacks

still nets you 25% crit easy

[wanton dawn]

Reciprocity is hard to get out consistently on ranged. Also frontloaded crit is better

[dreamy lantern]

or just take deadshot anyway and just learn to manage your stamina

or take both

[bitter turtle]

i mean

[dreamy lantern]

(i usually run both)

[bitter turtle]

you have to learn to manage stamina to do deadshot

[wanton dawn]

Thats an option. Me i play very straightforward gameplan

"Do this, do that. Profit"

[tall torrent]

Focus target tbh?

[timid otter]

Shoot things?

Win gaem

?

[bitter turtle]

depends on the swap speed of the weapon ig

[tall torrent]

Yea true

[bitter turtle]

its split pretty 50/50 for me for semi autos

on which i go

[wanton dawn]

Used to stab them

I might try deadshot mf columnus at some point but, i dont see it outperforming ft

[timid otter]

I find it hard to keep colomnus on head reliably throughout the entire shooting process

to much recoil

[wanton dawn]

You need to play like an ak47 in cs

[timid otter]

Can be kept there for a few shoots though.

[wanton dawn]

Btw did you read my notes for your guide ?

[timid otter]

yes

[wanton dawn]

Good

[timid otter]

I copied all the messages and went through them slowly

[junior needle]

Seems to be much more inconsistent with ranged dodges compared to melee dodges

[dreamy lantern]

i think thats to do with when in the enemy attack it disconnects the swing to count as a dodge

[wanton dawn]

I am gonna have to revisit my twins build though. I did not realize you made a full written guide

[timid otter]

I kept it mostly hush for awhile.

Didnt want the pressure.

[wanton dawn]

If reciprocity was more consistent id play it way more

[junior needle]

Same

[wanton dawn]

Thats fine. But i should mention that my build does not do "great" boss dmg

[timid otter]

You want my opnion on the hardmode twins fight as someone who has done it atleast 20+ times

Its not the bosses that kill you

Its the elites.

[wanton dawn]

Well, i did it probably just as much

[timid otter]

Any semi-decent player should be able to handle the bosses.

[wanton dawn]

Ogryn kill boss

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo... agrees

[wanton dawn]

Vet support

[hoary horizon]

Not boss but distraction

[junior needle]

Can confirm

Took my blaze away ripper for a spin on the bosses

Worked great

[hoary horizon]

But ogryn made for crowd control

[wanton dawn]

Actually i should add my twins run on my boss build

[junior needle]

Death is the best crowd control

[wanton dawn]

I dont have that many gameplay video, might has welk

Will do when i go to my computer

[timid otter]

Also by the way this is important information for the fight

All the elites, normal enemies are coming from the door that has sector 63 over it

Expect right after the gas phases.

The elites during that spawn come from random doors

Any well optimized HM twins fight tries to always have a spawn camper at the sector 63 door.

[final locust]

9 gig update

what is it

i only see a patch

[junior needle]

That would’ve been great to know when I was grinding hardmode for the achievement

[timid otter]

The actual hardest part of the fight is right after the gas phases

that is when its critical to stabilize the fight.

[bitter turtle]

ya

cause they spawn a bunch of mauler/crusher right on top of u

since those spawn doors seem to be near the gas safe zones

[wanton dawn]

Vet has great tool for that

Ammo box, frags, and voc

Did i say ammo box ? Grenade box

Ogryns will like it

[tacit wren]

Something about the twins fight, and the predictable spawn points doesn't seem very darktide like to me

[wanton dawn]

The only class i was not too keen about on twins was psyker

[timid otter]

Darktide has alot of patterns in its events if you really want to look for it

[tacit wren]

I mean you aren't wrong, the bosses almost always spawn the same places

[timid otter]

I personally dont bother as much nowadays with looking through the finer details of how events work.

It just isnt as relevant to winning a mission.

[wanton dawn]

Players also have a lot of pattern. Like knife zealot throwing or recon vet eating all the ammo

[tacit wren]

yeah but it makes the game what it is, it would get boring very fast (cough spacehulk)

[junior needle]

It’s not my fault that the hit reg sucks and the silent dogs/trapper still hit me despite visibly missing

Someone has to collect those resources in the corner of the map

[wanton dawn]

Lemme put a notch on my board

[junior needle]

I’m doing my part

[bitter turtle]

i only took

1 more small ammo box ok

than the next guy

😔

[junior needle]

What gun was the next guy using

[wanton dawn]

It was a gun psyker

[bitter turtle]

i dont remember

because the mod broke

#veteran-class message

but he did half my dmg

so clearly

i made better use of the ammo

recon better than mystery build

!!!

or maybe he was just looting

[untold mulch]

btw I read on reddit that the latest weapon customization mod update allowed you to bullpup stuff?

Dude talking stupid, or is actual thing?

[bitter turtle]

not sure

i only seen this

https://i.gyazo.com/6b9fd22844aea4c466afa4742744505c.png

[untold mulch]

Painful

Will check in march I guess

[bitter turtle]

like

it uses the bullpup recon stocks

but i dont get an optio nto stick a mag in there

but i havent updated since the patch

so maybe idk

[untold mulch]

Is okay

[junior needle]

He had 74k ranged damage with that ammo use, I don’t think any gun can manage that if you hit even a quarter of your shots

[bitter turtle]

damn

some people miss a lot

[untold mulch]

Stormtrooper

and not the cool ones

[junior needle]

I assume he was barely firing and just topping off with ammo pickups

A lot of ammo pickups

[lost portal]

Are poxbursters melee damage?

[balmy flume]

It seems Valhallans have arrived

Or Vostroyans

Curious what the weapon skin is though

[slow spade]

Poxbursters are a weird kind, they ignore toughness and deal corruption damage

There's no resistance against them except 100% toughness + 100% yellow toughness

[final locust]

sorry so what does this update add

[lost portal]

Well guess what chucklenuts. They aren't considered melee damage

[terse idol]

Wait they don't ignore toughness

[lost portal]

Just got "On Overwatch"

[terse idol]

VOC will block a bursters damage

[slow spade]

Nice job :D

[slow spade]

Read following comment

[terse idol]

Oh

[raw steppe]

overtoughness will always protect hp

[terse idol]

Very strange

[raw steppe]

but yeah investing into mixed tough/hp will generally be better

[slow spade]

Not if its chipped weirdly

[raw steppe]

cuz snipers/poxbursters will just rek you

[terse idol]

Me as I commit fully to toughness

[raw steppe]

and only ogryns can tank snipers to blue

[slow spade]

Toughness is always better on Vet

Now that Fire no longer nukes toughness

[raw steppe]

I mean you say that until you die without going down to 2 silent poxbursters from full

iirc you want to hit either the first BP or second BP against poxbursters

[slow spade]

I too can win imaginary situations in my mind

[terse idol]

I mean silent busters are yet to be seen

[raw steppe]

I mean you definitely have games where they explode on you unexpected, or teammate pops them on you lol

but sure

[slow spade]

"What if this situation that almost never happens occurs"

[lost portal]

Now to do the 90% accuracy one

[terse idol]

Because the audio adjustments this patch is what I'm gonna say

[raw steppe]

happens a decent amount in auric histg

[slow spade]

Protecting for the 0.1% instead of the 99.9% is a bad idea

[terse idol]

I mean yes

[raw steppe]

i'd say once every 5-10 games

[terse idol]

But even then, I mean eh I dunno

[slow spade]

Never happens to me lol

[terse idol]

Even if you get hit just gaining back your toughness again is good ebough

Although I won't bash 2x toughness 1xhp

Its solid

[raw steppe]

see this is where I disagree

the 99% of the time you can just overcome by playing better

[slow spade]

Solid but not the best

[raw steppe]

the 1% of bullshit is where i would want to beat the stat check

[twin ingot]

hmmm yes my weapon is indeed loaded

[slow spade]

You protect against the 1% I'll work on making it 0% lol

[terse idol]

But then

Those situations just don't happen common enough to justify the opportunity cost

[raw steppe]

you can't make it 0% lol

[terse idol]

Its why I don't run CDR reduction curios

6 seconds

[slow spade]

Not with that build or attitude

[slow spade]

I mean sometimes hadron fucks you

Better than xp

Rip so many +3 stam curios

[terse idol]

For sure

[tribal tangle]

do skins transfer between characters on shared weapons?

[junior rivet]

ye

[tribal tangle]

dank

[lost portal]

FIRST TRY BABYYYYYYYYYYYY

That took me three days the first time around

[indigo needle]

what is this second weapon activation for PS?

oh... i get it

it means the attack pattern doesn't reset when you trigger the special activation

[bitter turtle]

i run cdr for infiltrate

[indigo needle]

damn... i thought we could trigger the special during attacks for like forever or something

[bitter turtle]

nah

the new gimmick sucks

a very very light nerf if anything

[indigo needle]

damn

i wish we could buy older skins

[junior needle]

added tedium for essentially no benefit

Maybe this will be good someday

[amber mortar]

What is the diffrence between power swords ?

[idle swallow]

da movesets

6 is a bit more complex but can handle different enemy types better once you learn

3 is all horde swipes aside from the push attack

[amber mortar]

ok ok thanks

[elder fiber]

3 is horizontal heavies horde clear and slighly faster activation, 6 has wider lights (except for l4 which is vertical) and better single target dmg. Like push attack is thrust goes into the l4 and can p easily 2 shot crushers

[junior needle]

6 is considered to be just better by most people, as it doesn't require heavy attacking for horizontals.

As well as the block efficiency, charge cancel, and push attack

[wanton dawn]

AFter some deep testing

bayonet is still kinda usable

Weaker, but still usable

[umbral garnet]

I've been using it without BM since forever.

MK2's goes incredibly hard.

[timber briar]

any good or is it getting shafted

[junior needle]

Pretty good, cleave damage falls off hard from the original hit no matter you roll

Definitely a roller

[timber briar]

see what blessings and what not then

[junior needle]

Rampage and something else for blessings (you need to weave in the horizontal heavies to proc it), there's a few options.

[tall torrent]

This is serviceable

[junior needle]

Perks for maximum hordeclear are likely flak/unarmored

[tall torrent]

Cleave dmg is higher value than cleave target but not by much

[junior needle]

In general maniac isn't an attractive option on melee unless you regularly use it to fight naked ragers (not advisable on most melee)

Better off just shooting them

[tall torrent]

Flak is pretty much necessary for DC swords

The flak dmg falloff from cleave is pretty bad

[junior needle]

(Flak is pretty much necessary on almost every weapon)

Or at least the most value

There's a few exceptions but not that many

[shadow dagger]

is this salvageable or do i just cry and rip power cycler off

[umbral garnet]

The roll is great but the perks are mid

I say take PC4 and try another.

[wary wharf]

I'm more a chainsword guy but Jesus!

[hollow ibex]

Trash

Finesse is most definitely not a dump stat

[junior needle]

That's a perfectly good power sword between carapace and native cycler, keep it.

Native cycler is very good as it let's you have security for blessing swaps/changes.

[shadow dagger]

so the other two get swapped to bromentum and uhhh

what else

[junior needle]

Brudal or sunder for second blessings

And typically maniac, people seem to say flak doesn't get you any notable breakpoints on it

[slow spade]

its not 380

immediately scrapping it

[shadow dagger]

true

[midnight totem]

I'd have kept it if its your first pc4

looks like a pretty reliable mauler/crusher killer

[shadow dagger]

yeah i kept it

[midnight totem]

whats considered the best recon lasgun again?

[agile forge]

CIAG lol

But seriously, one of the ones that isn't the Mk II

[midnight totem]

nah nah, I just want to build one to mess around with in malice and lower when my friends get darktide

[agile forge]

That one is the trashiest of the trash

I think i mostly see the VId?

[midnight totem]

that bad huh

[agile forge]

Tbh I have never used a Recon, I'm just parroting

[midnight totem]

thats fair, I appreciate the knowledge forwarding

[hollow ibex]

VI for sure

VII for the memes

II is really bad

[umbral granite]

Melk is selling this, good weapon or bad? (I dont normally use the auto-guns)

[hollow ibex]

Really low ammo but still usable until you get a better roll

[junior needle]

The ammo doesn't make that big of a difference on that gun

[hollow ibex]

Would recommend replacing not and run and cara

[junior needle]

Max ammo stat is like 580 reserve

Good pickup, the dumdum tier doesn't make much difference and the 25% flak is good along with the stats.

Change carapace to maniac and hit/run to whatever your heart desires

Popular picks are deathspitter or stripped down

[slow spade]

not 380

bad

[raw steppe]

this is great imo LOL

i wouldn't listen to MZM tbh he has some real hot takes

cara and cycler are excellent and your stats are pretty good

so I would craft on that if you didn't already listen to the terrible advice of dismantling it lmao

[shadow dagger]

yeah i kept it

oh this looks nice

[hollow ibex]

Yeah pretty solid

Would buy

[shadow dagger]

does kantrael shotgun weapon special's fire dot apply as ranged damage

or is it a whole separate thing

[junior needle]

All dots are tracked as ranged damage

[shadow dagger]

oh neat

[junior needle]

Some scoreboard plugins will track status effects separately though

But on the base one it's ranged

[void rampart]

hmm i wonder what dead regiment brunt stumbled upon

[trim steppe]

RIP soldiers

[sterile hatch]

hey guys does Deadshot proc on the Plasma Gun's charged shots?

[gloomy kestrel]

slaughterer, bmomentum or rampage on mk3 power sword if you already have cycler?

[sterile hatch]

I'm a big rampage fan, it's what i use with power cycler

[gloomy kestrel]

hmm, melk has a psword with rampage 4 I could steal..

https://i.gyazo.com/389ab77b3a835a63fef6c022136d4e4a.png

presently working with this.

[shadow dagger]

what does enhanced blitz actually do for each one

is it just increased capacity for all of them

[crude fiber]

it used to not, i think it does now

[sterile hatch]

I asked because when I try it out in the meat grinder, charging shots doesn't make my stamina bar show up and I don't seem to crit more often (could just be a statistical abherration)

maybe it's bugged?

[crude fiber]

i thought they fixed that at some point but i guess not

[sterile hatch]

[trim steppe]

the meta is bromentum, with sunder as a decent alt choice. Both perform significantly better than slaughterer or rampage

[trim steppe]

deadshot does not work with plasma gun, unfortunately

[wide pike]

Braced auto gun or mkV auto gun?

[junior needle]

My game was aborted by an unexpected error

[junior needle]

If you mean the ciag, those guns have quite different roles/playstyles

[wide pike]

Correct, uh which braced one had the highest rate of fire?

[timid otter]

I suspect the graia.

But its unclear

the game itself lists graia, colomnus braced as the same fire rate.

One of those cases where FS might be actively lying about the weapon.

[wide pike]

true, having a hard time choosing between having more accuracy or having more boolet

[timid otter]

Eh ill add it to the list of things that need testing

Dont have time to test it right now

Braced autoguns overall could need a deeper look it intos mechanics in damage falloff, crit strings, well this part.

[wide pike]

fair enough

Unrelated but I made this in two minutes

[hollow ibex]

Graia

You have to brace it for extra rpm tho

[wide pike]

hmm i will try this weapon

the emprah wills it

[paper brook]

Power sword Mk3, Rampage or Slaughterer?

Which is better in the name of the Emperor

[wide pike]

rampage imo

ive had better results with rampage

[still flare]

I personally enjoy slaughterer because once you get the stacks going you can clear hordes without recharging all the time

But I know bromentum has highest cleave/swing ratio

and by "get stacks going" I mean 1 swing lol

[trim steppe]

Power Cycler > Bromentum > Sunder > Slaughterer > Rampage > Wrath > Supercharge

[junior needle]

I'd say sunder = brudal, they're sidegrades for different purposes

[trim steppe]

True, but most people pick bromentum over sunder anyway. At least afaik

[junior needle]

It's so much easier to get brudal than sunder

Sunder is probably rare than cycler

[wide pike]

okay so i tried graia(r cheese)

muy bien, i think its a good gun

[junior needle]

r cheese?

[wide pike]

the pun is grier cheese

[junior needle]

That was a little cheesy

[umbral granite]

When brunt sells a good version of the weapon you're trying to make, but it's not the mark you're looking for...

[junior needle]

That mobility was scuffed anyway

[wide pike]

i consider myself to be a wiz at the these puns

[trim steppe]

ayo

[junior needle]

Nacho thing anymore it seems

[wide pike]

maybe i should try

swissing things up a bit

eh?

[trim steppe]

I'd highly recommend giving the Agri Braced mk 8 a whirl if you haven't already. It is very fun and very strong. The biggest stagger of any of the autoguns making it extremely safe on top of powerful

[junior needle]

[trim steppe]

It feels weird suggesting the agri brauto since it seems like common knowledge but idk who knows about it anymore since the meta moved on to the CIAG

[wide pike]

i have, the bloom isnt as forgiving but up close it will crap on anything you poiny iy at lol

[trim steppe]

yeah its the terminator gun. Run up to anything and hold the trigger down until the room is empty

[wide pike]

you could probably get the same results with something like

idk

psyker💀

[trim steppe]

agri brauto is a beast on every class

[wide pike]

revolver enjoyers:

[paper brook]

So according to this, Power Cycler paired with Bromentum, is better than, Power Cycler paired with Slaughterer

[trim steppe]

Yessir

[umbral granite]

I presume Bromentum's "Weakspot kills ignore enemy hit mass" aspect is why it's so good on the psword? (i dont have a sword with bromentum because hadron wont give me the blessing)

[tall nova]

yeah

any weapon with bromentum is good with it

the weakspot damage is whatever

[rigid pilot]

Any bromentum weapon with horizontal strikes*

You wanna cleave a line of heads

Tacaxe bromentum usable but a little scuffed

[junior needle]

Any weapon with horizontal strikes and the ability to one shot headshot bruisers*

[rigid pilot]

Ah yea true

[clear pier]

bruh why can't i post any images i need some advice on what to put on it

[wanton dawn]

Cuz you dont have participated enough on this discord. Yet

[clear pier]

shi

well i got a 380 mk 4 chainsword with t3 savage sweep and shred just wondering what perks i should be putting on it

[tall nova]

can't go wrong with flak

other perk could be unyielding

maniac works but I don't think you'll be hitting big 1 shot break points on any enemies

[clear pier]

alright thx babe ❤️

[unreal bone]

oh yeah

the shop reset today

didn't it

Is it repeats? I'm guessing it is.

[granite sand]

Kinda

[copper barn]

It’s mostly mid stuff outside of Ogryn.

[granite sand]

The Ogryn set is baller

[copper barn]

There’s a few repeats like psyker’a staff and goggles.

[granite sand]

And a trinket that increased in price

[copper barn]

Yup

[granite sand]

The Ogryn pants go with the bullgryn top that dropped a while ago

[unreal bone]

They already released 2 reskins of the Valhallan stuff for veteran?

🤣

[granite sand]

Yeah

[unreal bone]

It's only been like a month bro since that stuff came out no way they're that fucking dry on ideas.

[granite sand]

That coat is a Valhallan reskin? What was the original?

I started playing in September

[unreal bone]

No not the coat

[granite sand]

Oh the hat

[unreal bone]

but they reskinned the Peesash hood and the Ushanka

both of the hats

[granite sand]

That’s facts

The hood is kinda sick and I’m glad we have it in black

The white one was like dengar from Star Wars vibes

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-grumpy-grumpy-cat-devious-evil-gif-9626225505159137065

What is wrong with fartshart.

Truely

[lucid pasture]

I'm just sitting here wondering when they're gonna release the shit that's been datamined that I actually want lmao

[frank basin]

If we give cat the thumb would they drive human to extinction?

[unreal bone]

Like I'm now 100% convinced they are fucking--

I can't finish that or I'll be censored.

[unreal bone]

FOR REAL

[unreal bone]

If they want to add a reskin

add the cool reskins that got leaked 14 months ago

what is wrong with fartshart truely

[granite sand]

I require the Cadian assault pack

[unreal bone]

Scion backpack

the Cadian vox-caster

the Cadian flak armor

all of this got leaked 14 months ago

[frank basin]

They could be left over and disorganized

[granite sand]

I ordered three squads of tempestus scions today. If I receive those and paint them before we get tempestus scion kit in game I’m going to be so disappointed

[lucid pasture]

"Ah dang it got leaked, guess we've gotta can this stuff" - Fatshark devs probably

[unreal bone]

If that was the case they wouldn't have released the red versions.

[granite sand]

Have y’all seen the scions armor that leaked

[unreal bone]

They released some of the leaked stuff.

[frank basin]

FS dev are sound disorganized on cosmetic

[unreal bone]

wym?

[granite sand]

It looks so bad

Stand by

[unreal bone]

Show it

This stuff got leaked 14 months ago

and it would be amazing reskins.

[lucid pasture]

Yeah I just want that flak armor

[frank basin]

Wait a minute I have this on red color

[unreal bone]

Same

[unreal bone]

Yes the red one came out forever ago and was leaked along with the green one.

[granite sand]

#darktide-driptide message

[granite sand]

Dude me too

[paper brook]

Question, with the Emperor or against the Emperor?

[granite sand]

We should squad up

[unreal bone]

Oh wait I have this mod

lemme enable it

and I'll take a look ingame

ALSO WAIT WAIT WAIT

THEY MADE SCION ARMOR

BUT DIDNT MATCH IT

TO THE SCION HELMET

[granite sand]

I’m a huge kasrkin and scions guy

Yeah

[unreal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-angry-boogie-dance-o-ya-ya-gif-23803088

[frank basin]

Lol

[granite sand]

My hope is they fix the proportions and the color and add gloves

Will that happen? Not likely

[paper brook]

They're Obese Fishes for a reason

[unreal bone]

Dude I'm convinced

[granite sand]

It gets better

[unreal bone]

Fartshart is just dumb. Genuinely stupid.

[granite sand]

#darktide-driptide message

[unreal bone]

They literally have no lights on at home.

Empty thoughts.

[unreal bone]

This backpack has been in the code forever.

[granite sand]

Is that the actual color?

I’m on pc but I don’t have whatever mod lets you see that stuff

[frank basin]

@granite sand

[lucid pasture]

God I need it all in GREEN

[frank basin]

too bad that green one didnt release

[paper brook]

Yeah the red looks off to me

[unreal bone]

Look at this cool coat!

[unreal bone]

Look at this coat they just reskinned and released.

[frank basin]

trying make full armor, color mismatched

[unreal bone]

THEY'RE THE SAME

FUCKING THING

[lucid pasture]

It's so legitimately infuriating knowing all of that stuff is in the files, just unable to be looked at or used.

[frank basin]

yah

[granite sand]

Clearly way different dude

You can tell because of the way it is

[lucid pasture]

What the hell is this Engrish description lol

AI generated item page

[unreal bone]

Yeah bro like I said

I'm genuinely 100% convinced

that fartshart is just completely clueless.

They're not drunk behind the wheel.

They're straight up fucking dead behind the wheel.

[granite sand]

Drinking and driving is cool. What they’re doing is uncool

However

They’re making money doing it

[pearl granite]

can plasma explode and killing us anymore? I remember getting blown up once, but nowaday the character just automatically vent the gun before shooting again

[junior needle]

Charged attacks will blow you up, light attacks automatically vent

[pearl granite]

oh okay, thx

[unreal bone]

That's such a poor way to look at it, but you're right and that's exactly how they're looking at it.

Why is it a poor way to look at it? THEY COULD MAKE TWICE THE MONEY

Putting in a modicum of effort.

[granite sand]

Oh yeah no 100%

Please don’t think I agree with it

[pearl granite]

I love this shovel on my vet

not perfect but it work nicely to keep trash away 😄

[granite sand]

They literally would

If the shop page was a 55th kappic eagles set that was just 1:1 and had an optional red beret headgear as one of the additional items

First of all I’d be pretty hype

Second of all it would sell like crazy

Or just a legit Krieg grenadier set

[unreal bone]

I made a camo krieg grenadier set actually.

Well close to one

[pearl granite]

i would buy that

[granite sand]

Dude that’s hype

[unreal bone]

lemme find a pic

[granite sand]

I’ve read all of the Krieg books I’m pretty sure

They’re pretty dope

[unreal bone]

Aight I'mma head out I'll open the game again in 2 weeks when they offload their steaming pile of shit in the next shop rotation.

Here is that krieg grenadier set.

[granite sand]

And replace it with another one

[unreal bone]

Using a chest plate that has not come out 🤡

[granite sand]

This looks cool

[unreal bone]

Yep too bad that is another chest

we will never see.

Fartshart literally makes the coolest outfit ever.

And then releases the uglier shitter version of it instead

Green Cadian flak armor? Nah red mars camo.

That aquilan guard chest?

Nah red again

Lets make it red instead so it matches with literally nothing, and then also make it so that the legs that come with the set don't even match the chest.

[granite sand]

Huge L

It’s so easy

I don’t know how they mess it up

[unreal bone]

At this point dude I wish they would've just gave us a camo system like halo infinite.

Cause if you're going to fuck us in the ass atleast do it with nice camos.

[granite sand]

Only reason they don’t is so they can release reskins

They’re gonna hold the cool shit til the game starts dying

[unreal bone]

It's already dying isn't it? 🤣

[granite sand]

The warhammer fans will hear “kasrkin kit is in Darktide for real this time” and be like oh shit I’ll re install it

[unreal bone]

If this ain't dead idk what is.

[granite sand]

Yeah dude

I don’t know what their standard for that is

[unreal bone]

All time peak almost 108k

barely scraping 4.5k

[bitter turtle]

this is my standard for dying

https://i.gyazo.com/0327f1483587b8ce16287a8754ab8f62.png

😔

was a good game

at least i qp into matches that arent the same 5 or 6 people every time

[potent iris]

vt2 typically hovers around 2k players nowadays and it still gets updates n stuff

[unreal bone]

But they have the potential to make this such a good game like fr

[granite sand]

Every time someone says and stuff I think of goose in the nice guys

[bitter turtle]

i dont think cosmetics is the reason the game isnt pulling bigger numbers

[granite sand]

Yeah

Not at all

[unreal bone]

Oh no it's not just cosmetics

[potent iris]

I do it a lot

[granite sand]

However the warhammerish stuff is a huge draw for the warhammer crowd

[unreal bone]

but people want to look pretty while they play the game.

[granite sand]

Me too

[bitter turtle]

in that case

[granite sand]

Dude like we buy little men and paint them in color schemes we like

[bitter turtle]

then they should make the character creator better in the first place tbh

[granite sand]

Of course a game where you can do that with your virtual zombie and heretic slayer will appeal to that crowd

[bitter turtle]

half the shit you select barely matters in the background in any way you can measurably notice

[unreal bone]

Like honestly good cosmetics and some regular content updates Darktide would pull in WAY more people than it does.

[bitter turtle]

i have little motivation to customize when im barely attached to my character in the first place

[granite sand]

I just want it to feel like warhammer

[unreal bone]

It has the fundamentals to be a good game it's got good gameplay, good music, and good visuals.

Fartshart is literally just completely clueless.

[bitter turtle]

well

eithe rway

[unreal bone]

Like it's what Helldivers 2 is, that's what Darktide could've been.

[granite sand]

Like I’m a big militarum special forces guy. Love kasrkin, drop troops, scions, Lucifer blacks. The idea of taking any of their armor into a game I enjoy is so cool to me

[unreal bone]

Atleast the devs of Helldivers 2 haven't been dead behind the wheel.

[bitter turtle]

i dont think it really has anything to do with the numbers

[granite sand]

That’s the appeal of cosmetics to me. Otherwise it doesn’t matter in any way

[bitter turtle]

HD2 will no doubt have a harsh dropoff of players after the initial release

[granite sand]

It just needs regular new content

[bitter turtle]

every game has it

ppl riding fotm waves always move on

[unreal bone]

Not really no have you seen how active the devs are?

[bitter turtle]

im not saying

because the devs suck

im saying because literally every game is like this

there's the initial explosion honeymoon phase and then half the pop drops off bc it was just casuals poking in checking the latest fotm

[granite sand]

Hd2 is great but it’s also a shiny new thing

[bitter turtle]

its not cause game is bad

or devs did something wrong

[unreal bone]

I mean yeah no game is going to maintain their all-time peak amount of players.

[bitter turtle]

its just the natural progression

[granite sand]

Like when Darktide player count peaks during a time when the devs are super active

[unreal bone]

If you compare HD1 to HD2 the difference is massive and sure some of that might've been bolstered by the funny memes. But the difference in players between those 2 games is and I do not exaggerate when I say this

COLOSSAL

[granite sand]

Then drops to what we see now

[granite sand]

Yeah I never even heard of hd1

[unreal bone]

HD1 had an all-time peak of like

8k players

[frank basin]

migration

[unreal bone]

All-time peak is the entire lifespan of the game

[granite sand]

That’s wild

[unreal bone]

How many people were on it at one point.

[granite sand]

Oh like a peak player count

[unreal bone]

Yes HD1 never went over 7k people.

HD2 broke the servers cause they only had servers for 450k people.

[granite sand]

Pain

Yeah I bought it and haven’t been able to play

[unreal bone]

How come?

[granite sand]

Every time I try to log on I wait like 20-30 min

[unreal bone]

Try right now.

It should let you in.

[granite sand]

I’m sure it’s better now but I can’t play most weekdays anyway

[unreal bone]

ah

[granite sand]

I’m only up because I drank after work and napped for 6 hours

No gaming for me tonight

[unreal bone]

Yeah the server problems were happening when it crossed the 450k threshold

[granite sand]

Yeah it was frustrating for sure

I’ve done 2 or 3 missions I think

[unreal bone]

It's a great game it honestly reminds me of what Darktide could be.

[granite sand]

Every other day I’d go to log on and it would error so I’d play Darktide

[unreal bone]

Helldivers 2 and Darktide are both 4 dudes roll up into a mission to fuck shit up and spread democracy or religion.

[bitter turtle]

idk why people get reminded of DT as much tbh

the gameplay doesnt look very alike to me at least

beyond being coop

[unreal bone]

The gameplay is not the same at all but it's the setting.

[bitter turtle]

HD2 reminds me of a way more polished EDF