#veteran-class

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austere pine
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low intensity st is low intensity + more specialists

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low intensity anything is resident sleeper

late hatch
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low int vs hi int is like the amount of dribble you get mostly.

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of chaff enemies

blissful flame
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that was one of the sings for me to upgrade the difficulty when i spent hours and hours playing deep rock solo, was when i was finding myself starved for action during swarms lol

austere pine
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shooters count as chaff though so that's a bit annoying

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love seeing actual rennaissance gunlines forming

late hatch
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ST is what makes it spicy with it spawning half a dozen specs at the same time

blissful flame
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want a half dozen bursters? No? Welll now it's a whole dozen, fuck you

late hatch
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i actually hate the current state of shooters. when shaff can stun lock you with a barrage of pews

blissful flame
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speaking of, jumpinginto a regular damnation now

late hatch
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and ogryn gunners are a menace

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small cover should work slightly better

blissful flame
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as i recall, if your'e max tall, cover is less useful

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youc an actually take cover if you're max short

late hatch
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all of my chars are min height and small cover is not very effective

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they still wing you. and you get the tards that dont understand how important coherency regen is, and they run away to "draw fire" so I can shoot them and i just have to stay in cover spam pinging at my feet and asking them to come back so I can regen. loner zealots im looking at you

austere pine
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loner is fun but i go in to tank. come in with me whenever i'm playing and i'll make sure you're not only regening but also not having 15 shooters, 10 stalkers and 5 gunners shooting at you

tall nova
austere pine
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(i donn't do loner cuz it's a garbage path, but i've thought about it)

late hatch
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loner can work fine, but you still need to understand the core mechanics of the game and sometimes just slip into the support role so your psyker or vet can knock off the pew pew bois

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unless you take rev

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which I rarely switch off as zealot

austere pine
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i was also talking about areas where it's just a straight-ish line or whatever and we need to go in anyway. i love it when the less faithful take out the cowardly lasmen

gaunt delta
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I’m trying to learn how to use the Psyker shield wall. Seems to me like it could help the incoming fire situations.

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Every time I use it tho, it’s very hard to see thru

late hatch
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Yeah there are areas where you can just get sompletely swamped by shooters and gunners. then the melees job is to stand next to your ranged dps and keep chaff off them and help them regen

white minnow
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or i can just run in and lock them in melee

tall nova
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or diving in on them and preventing them from shooting

white minnow
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and it's a pub game, so people are going to play however they want

late hatch
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shield psyker is fun. ah remember the old disco dome of doom days. the framerates were terrible but you could just disable everything

gaunt delta
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I remember the Titan ult in Destiny 1, making ult orbs anytime something died inside it

late hatch
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when smite was bugged you could just infinite shock everything. but the volumetric fog was terrible and destroyed everyones framerate

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destiny is good too. there are many builds to spawn lots of orbs

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im trying to help a mate through witch queen atm but he barely has time to play and when he does he is normally too drunk to play missions so we just clown around in patrols

gaunt delta
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Destiny 1 was good. Destiny 2 was trying too much with annual DLC

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Loved just going out in the open world and circling on patrol

late hatch
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yeah d2 is a pretty expensive game to stay up to date. but if you play it a lot i think its worth

gaunt delta
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I hear ya. I couldn’t keep up with it; that’s on me.

late hatch
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i skipped a few dlc, after shadow keep was such a big let down

gaunt delta
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But, we ought to go back to Darktide 😅

late hatch
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bit bored of it atm, cbf pugging, only play when mates want to play and they are all playing HD2 atm

gaunt delta
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Yeah. I hope they scrap the DRM in HD2 soon. I don’t want to encourage that kind of dev behavior

late hatch
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almost every pug i find a toxic loser who cant handle any kind of pinging or chat without exploding with venom, so i just block them and play it out

gaunt delta
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Oof

late hatch
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or knife zealots who make it their mission to try kill everything and dont see other people are sweeping for plas

gaunt delta
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(Afk 10 mins)

winged warren
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what cool melee options do vets have? (pls no say psword)

late hatch
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chainsword, axe, or knife

thin field
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cant go wrong with a chainsword

winged warren
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how does chainsword compare to combat axe? i have used caxe before on my zealot

late hatch
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pretty solid, you get pretty nice strikes for horde and you can rip up big bois

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diff atk pattern on the 2 models, best to grab one of each and hop into psykanium to try them out

blissful flame
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axe has been my favorite

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but i am a simple man

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but your axe is gonna struggle with hordes unless you got bromentum, i think

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my second ever damnation went fine, too

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1 death, but it wasn't me

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that said i feel like the rest of the squad was doing a lot of heavy lifting. 2 shield psykers, and a zealot who got much more elite and specialist kills than me and my plas lol

late hatch
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new shovel is good. old shovel is kinda more support than damage

winged warren
dire olive
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Depends on which shovel

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But I think the new ones will outdo a caxe for single target

blissful flame
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Oh right, I got a decent lookin shovel the other day, and I never even tried it out

dire olive
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Horde clear is below caxe but is still pretty decent (especially OG shovel)

winged warren
blissful flame
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What the og shovel don't clear, it probably sends sprawling

dire olive
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The special attack can one shot a lot of things

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Like mutants

winged warren
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special attack? is it like oggie when you knocks the shovel down

dire olive
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Yeah

blissful flame
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Oo, I need to try that one sometime

dire olive
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Old shovel does a jab that staggers like the dueling swords

winged warren
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if id on't special attack, how does it compare to caxe tho?
because the special itself takes some time.

dire olive
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It's way quicker than ogryn

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Near instant

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Idk I find caxe kinda boring

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Personally

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It might be slightly better just because of horde clear but I'd rather have shovel for mixed hordes

austere pine
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look at this shank i got

dire olive
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The stagger on the sweep heavies can keep rager groups back

winged warren
dire olive
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Mauler deffo I think crusher depends what attack and what blessings

austere pine
dire olive
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The OG shovel special jab definitely works

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I like the blue shovel personally

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Has sweep heavies + the special attack

blissful flame
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need to get me one

austere pine
blissful flame
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also nice poker there hope

austere pine
blissful flame
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yes?

austere pine
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the power shank is cool but i have a generally better one. higher rating overall and only like 1% less damage and whatnot

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higher mobility, too

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this is the 352

blissful flame
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it's just nice to see someone get that that doesn't dump damage like every fuckign power sword i see

austere pine
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only like a few weapons don't care about damage (flamer and fire staff) and power swords are not one of them

blissful flame
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i mean that as every power sword i get in my shops and melk or whetever dumps damage every time lol

austere pine
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oh that

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i thought you meant other people take damage as psword's dump stat

blissful flame
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i try not to shit on people, only myself

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unless they're a solo knife zealot who got themselves downed

austere pine
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i picked up psword 6 for this but could knife 3 work with it?

winged warren
dire olive
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Wat

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Oh

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One-hit

austere pine
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bro thought wrong 💀

dire olive
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Think it can on the first one

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Then it depends if you got decimator/thrust stacks

dire olive
austere pine
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yeah had no clue how to write it

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but i saw it too after you realized

late hatch
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really want flakiak and onslaught with surg for the HB right?

sinful jacinth
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What guns are people using now a days.

late hatch
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meta is plasma, rev, or c5.

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I love the heavy laspistol mk10 as well

austere pine
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this with high stability

dire olive
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I've been goofing around with brautos, headhunters and shotguns

austere pine
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brautos are gucci for zealot, i find

dire olive
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It is kinda funny hosing a crusher with onslaught graia brauto

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I feel like recon las is the only gun I feel significantly hindered for using

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Just tickles no matter what you do

austere pine
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on low diffs it's pretty good

dire olive
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That's not saying much

vale ledge
dire olive
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On low diffs I can use ogryn club slap as primary melee

gaunt delta
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💐Everything💐Works💐In💐Malice💐

novel stone
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Is the default lazgun worth using in anything higher than 3?

trim hemlock
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Some more than others - ILas is probably as ordinary as it gets

novel stone
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Yeah but it feels like I'd be missing out using it over a boltor/plasma/brauto

gaunt delta
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It’s got a holosight, which is kinda rare in Darktide

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(Unless you mod the game)

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I can’t speak to breakpoints, but I presume it does very good headshot damage, and even better with Vet’s tree nodes that boost Crit

dire olive
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Ilas is the pinnacle of a B tier weapon

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It's alright

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You won't struggle with it but you won't be annihilating huge swathes of the unclean either

gusty bison
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Its about as good as the bolter

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Sure its no plasma but well

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Plasma is busted op

wanton dawn
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I think i rate bolter higher than plasma in fog

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But maybe i need to try exe plasma

rare prawn
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worth trying to upgrade this one ?

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eh, went ahead anyway and rolled poor blessings, perks

wanton dawn
rare prawn
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best picture to describe the crafting system

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or the users the attempt it rather

iron marten
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lol, 6d is back on the menu

balmy flume
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Yooo did P Sword just get a mini buff

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With that special activation change

balmy flume
white minnow
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ooooh

iron marten
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I kept my 6d from those days

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glad I didn't scrap it!

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Psword seems insane as well

raw linden
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M35 Magnacore Mk II Plasma Gun

Mitigated the issue of invisible and inaudible Plasma Gun shots.

white minnow
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hell yeah lets see what has been brought for the pswords

wanton dawn
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Guess ill see after workday's over

umbral garnet
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"Smoke Grenades should now stop enemies from shooting through the smoke instantly and prevent Scab Snipers from taking aim and shooting through the smoke."

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BY THE GOD EMPEROR

iron marten
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damn, I was staying awake for the Elden Ring DLC trailer

round yacht
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am i understanding this correctly

iron marten
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guess I can boot up Darktide now lol

round yacht
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are we saved

iron marten
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oh, no more getting thrown off ledges from 3 gunners

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nice

wanton dawn
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I think ps is mostly a buff if you dont play pc ?

round yacht
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So we dont get pushed but do we still get staggered?

wanton dawn
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Sounds weird

balmy flume
wanton dawn
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They would not just buff ps would they ?

white minnow
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hmmm

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i'm scared of hidden nerfs but if the new chaining is cool then woohoo

wanton dawn
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I chose to believe it mostly buff non pc

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For now

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Til i try

sharp ember
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Fixed an issue with ‘Shock Trooper’ talent causing rapid fire weapons to consume ammo during Critical Strikes.

white minnow
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OH that's right non-PC

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hmm much to think about

sharp ember
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recons are demi-back?

sharp ember
wanton dawn
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Still kinda small patch though

sharp ember
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and feels nicer in general to not get locked down by gunfire

pulsar radish
sharp ember
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oh absolutely lmao

tiny summit
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We hotboxing the hive this patch

wanton dawn
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Basically the bug was that crit were not supposed to refill ammo but not consume either

pulsar radish
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Like the recon lasguns need better blessings, change my mind Infernus ain't great

wanton dawn
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So i guess it make sense now ?

pulsar radish
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It also needs better damage by about 5-10% per model.

sharp ember
dusty sluice
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Ahahahahaha

hoary horizon
tiny summit
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Throw a grenade mid gunner spray, stops gunner?

wanton dawn
dusty sluice
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Did the power sword change mess with anything?

hoary horizon
hoary horizon
wanton dawn
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Ill send you when am back from work

hoary horizon
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Thank you sah

wanton dawn
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No prob big man

dusty sluice
dawn garnet
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"Changed the chest bag to be less flat on the Veteran “Krieg Greatcoat MkI” upper body cosmetic."

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BOOBS UPDATE

sharp ember
sharp ember
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if i read it right, you no longer get all 3 horizontal slashes unless you start from neutral

pulsar radish
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Honestly I feel like this update wasn't worth the wait lol

iron marten
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I can't believe I'm getting excited to be using a recon lasgun again lmao

white minnow
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it seems that the activation chain was mostly for non-PC pswords, but i crashed before i could do some testing

tiny summit
# dusty sluice NOOO

I don't read it as changing the loop, but now you can reset your charges mid attack chain

sharp ember
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subsequent power activations will be L2 L3 L4, and L4 is a light overhead

dusty sluice
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We need someone to test

sharp ember
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assuming you run power cycler 4

white minnow
dusty sluice
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NOOO

sharp ember
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maybe you can do some QQ swap cheese to reset to neutral lol

white minnow
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prolly or block cancel

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since pswords seem to not have a forced period of blocking at all

dusty sluice
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How large is patch?

tiny summit
dusty sluice
white minnow
timid aurora
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So how are the Power Swords now?

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Are they less shit?

forest breach
white minnow
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still one of the best melee weapons

timid aurora
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Lmfao. Idk I love them

white minnow
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assuming that there weren't any numerical changes, the combo is still basically the same

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you can just block cancel to go back to l1 l2 l3 on the mk6

timid aurora
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That's not terrible I guess

white minnow
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since pswords have no forced period of blocking

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the chainining activation seems to be primarily geared for non-power cycler pswords

timid aurora
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Man. I never noticed

white minnow
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so nothing to worry about

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pswords still one of the best melee weapons

sharp ember
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rip zealots

timid aurora
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Especially if you got the perk to give it extra power strikes.

sharp ember
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could this be the patch that brings smoke grenades on level with the others?

spice wadi
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WHA

timid aurora
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Ngl it'd be pretty neat if smoke staggered enemies a bit.

tiny summit
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Going into meat grinder to hear her voice uwugryn

timid aurora
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Sefoni my Beloved!

frank ether
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I think this ''buff'' will only get into play

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if you lack power cycler or something

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I don't believe they would go buff psword otherwise

timid aurora
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Which Is kinda essential.

frank ether
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If its like a mercy for lacking PC4 thats fine

timid aurora
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25 points more would at least make it 1.9 hit naked mobs.

tiny summit
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Energize, swing, energize, retained attack chain from how I read

frank ether
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I'll have to test

timid aurora
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Sick

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I'm off work today so I'll get to look at it later.

pliant sentinel
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thoughts?

tiny summit
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Definitely a "new years cleaning" kind of patch

muted prairie
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Lads, am i trippin or did they BUFF the power sword?

white minnow
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i don't really notice anything different besidees for the mk6 psword where you start from l2 on the second activation cycle during power cycler

tiny summit
white minnow
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the timing seems to be the same

pliant sentinel
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nifty

white minnow
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so, basically just a combo change that you can get around by just block cancelling

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prolly just the first set of changes to the psword

wanton dawn
white minnow
wanton dawn
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MY BAYONET

tiny summit
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Unintended bug, force staves having BM

untold mulch
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Someone magdump with shocktroopper and recon an enemy for me and check if its better or still trash

pliant sentinel
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it's aight

tiny summit
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Shocktrooper revert isn't gonna save it from the dmg nerfs it ate last time

untold mulch
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Yeah, but now shocktrooper applies to 2 crits

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not 1

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just wish to know the extent of how it feels now

untold mulch
pliant sentinel
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Y'know what makes me angry?

frank ether
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you need %80 of the ammo each mission instead of %100 now I imagine?

pliant sentinel
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the hellgun is already in the game

tiny summit
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You'll have ammo for 3 rooms instead of 2 now

pliant sentinel
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scab gunners have it

torpid sundial
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recon is usable again

frank ether
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I mean this is like imagine you're starving

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and you find breadcrumbs

untold mulch
frank ether
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yea nice

torpid sundial
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only takes 30 ammo to kill a crusher now

frank ether
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wait what

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does it work on ALL crits

torpid sundial
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yeah

frank ether
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so including the full chain

untold mulch
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Supposedly now it applies to every Recon crit

the string is nerfed still

torpid sundial
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idk if its the full chain tbh

tiny summit
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Light show back on the menu boys

torpid sundial
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but the ammo consumption is DEFINITELY a LOT better now

frank ether
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nah that might be decent for flak shooting

untold mulch
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Shit, imma have to redownload? KEKW_ogryn

pliant sentinel
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are you telling me

tiny summit
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I'll run Exe MF Recon when I can. Still a shit build for recon but let's see

pliant sentinel
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recon is viable now?

untold mulch
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lets not sing victory yet

pliant sentinel
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aye

tiny summit
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I mean...it's always been viable. Shitty but viable

untold mulch
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Yeah, viable but you know

shit

torpid sundial
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I'm using it

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Mag dumping into everything now

untold mulch
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Oh using VIIa?

torpid sundial
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yeh

untold mulch
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Actually not bad considering no good onslaught stacks?

torpid sundial
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thats with onslaught

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running this atm

untold mulch
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yeah but VIIa is the worst for Onslaught stacking

tiny summit
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You kidding me? Of course you'd need onslaught to get that

pliant sentinel
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just use the mk6d

untold mulch
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I expressed myself badly

torpid sundial
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eh the fire rate's still good enough to use onslaught imo

tiny summit
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I think I like the VIIa more

pliant sentinel
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I do too

torpid sundial
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Wouldnt be able to magdump into both crushers and mobs

pliant sentinel
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but 6d is fun

torpid sundial
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with the others

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I dont have a 6d built unfortunately

pliant sentinel
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rip

dawn garnet
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did they seriously buff recon now?

untold mulch
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They fixed the shocktrooper talent

dawn garnet
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after i sold 4 379 recons on two chars

torpid sundial
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fixed it

untold mulch
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faith issue

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also "fixed it"

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gonna need some testing if its a fix or a "at least is not trolling anymore"

tiny summit
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More like, it's no longer completely disrespected

wary plume
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Parrying is so nice why didnt i use parrying sword sooner on vet

torpid sundial
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it feels good but its situational

dire olive
dawn garnet
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i needed the cash ok?

dire olive
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Play auric tposegryn

dawn garnet
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I need like 4 energy drinks before i can tho

frank ether
dawn garnet
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its easier to fuck around in t3s

dire olive
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Easier to be poor too Guarded

untold mulch
white minnow
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seems like you don't take melee bleedthrough with overtoughness now

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neat

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no wait i had invuln on

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fuck

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hmm still no bleedthrough

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neeat

serene bough
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Smokes stopping snipers/ranged fire is a good change

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Not sure how useful it'll be

dire olive
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Psyker shield at home

serene bough
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Time for the full vape god build, all grenade perks + smokes

umbral garnet
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FUCK YOU, HERETICS

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Takes a fat hit of his vape

neon estuary
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i've been thinking, whats the best blessings for columnus mk v?

umbral garnet
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Dum Dum is a must have and then Deathspitter or Something else I can't remember.

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Stripped down is also nice if you want some decent ranged immunity

dusty sluice
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2nd blessing hardly matters

umbral garnet
toxic leaf
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what does the power sword change mean, im dumb dumb

neon estuary
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dum dum is good, but the 2nd one is the hardest part to pick. So i was thinking the barrage part

white minnow
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no practical changes to the pswords so far

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besides for the mk6

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but you can just block cancel to reset back to l1

umbral garnet
white minnow
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so a pretty inconsequential change

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just seems like groundwork for a future change to the pswords

toxic leaf
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i see

viscid sparrow
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wait, did Fatshark buff Recons in any way this patch? some earlier messages in this chat seem to imply that...

umbral garnet
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Not much.

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They still suck.

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Viable, like any other gun

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But just depressing.

gray finch
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did the mkIII combat blade got fixed ?

neon estuary
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i guess you are all right about the recon part, but at least i stick with the columnus mk v

dawn garnet
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"viable" just means if you're good enough you can make a brick work

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which is not untrue

umbral garnet
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So yes

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Anything is viable.

dawn garnet
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but realistically im not that guy and im betting no one on my team is that guy

neon estuary
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come to think of it, whats the best perks suited for columnus mk v?

dawn garnet
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im still gonna dodoge if i see someone bring that into the mission screen

umbral garnet
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(I am, in fact, not him)

umbral garnet
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Probably flak and maniac

rain badger
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Where new weapons staregryn

untold mulch
frank ether
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Its still like bolter levels of ammo drinking

gusty bison
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Since u can make a bolter neutral

frank ether
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except

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bolter instantly deletes the thing I shoot at

gusty bison
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Yea thats the problem

frank ether
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this eats just as much ammo if not more

white minnow
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if you eat up all the ammo on the map, you too can play ranged only with the 6d recon

frank ether
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probably requires suppression immunity but I did cope without it

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and you also need shock trooper

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keep in mind

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I dont even run exec with bolter

gusty bison
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Give us 2.25 finesse

frank ether
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this is enjoying a lot of extra damage

gusty bison
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:c

frank ether
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another minor issue is

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the irons of recon combined with the projectile

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half the time I'm not seeing what I fire at

gusty bison
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Krill issue >:P

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But i getcha, the flare is pretty nasty

untold mulch
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Gonna skip the patch

woeful hare
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Recons still an ammo sink

untold mulch
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but good to know thank you Plush

solemn niche
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9gigabyte update ? what happened

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other than messing with my video settings, i mean

frank ether
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nothing

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some fixes

solemn niche
frank ether
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QoL update

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no content

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recon is less garbage

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smoke is less garbage

untold mulch
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basically what the game needed

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early january

frank ether
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random bads in your team can no longer get you killed with DH

untold mulch
frank ether
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yea I think this is a good update

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genuinely

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its just really late man

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also sefoni talks in meat grinder now

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and I don't want her to

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but maybe that will stop me from testing shit for hours

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and go do something productive with my day instead

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oh yea I forgot

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krieg coomers

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they unflattened the bag

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good news

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it no longer looks 2 dimensional

dim citrus
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So is the smoke grenade actually useful now?

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At least compared to before

frank ether
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it has a ''purpose'' now so to speak yes

dim citrus
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So it went from useless to slightly useful

frank ether
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yeah if it stops gunners/snipers there is a slight reason to like

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pick it

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if for nothing else pathing

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tho going frag+survivalist is still nobrainer

dim citrus
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Well yeah

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I wonder if they could make smoke compare to the other two

woeful ibex
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guys is this good?

trim hemlock
frank ether
trim hemlock
#

Cleave targets is basically irrelevant if you get BM

frank ether
#

hit hadron

#

pray

#

to the fat fish

umbral garnet
#

I am still so happy with my power sword.

#

It feels great two shotting a crusher with a push attack and light 4

#

🥴

woeful ibex
#

Flak armor is good but use Unyielding because Bulwarks are pain

#

Soldiers is this good?

umbral garnet
#

You're gonna want something that makes the cleave actually not matter.

#

So BM or Sunder

dusty sluice
umbral garnet
#

Yeah.

#

I want them to add boltpistols so bad

#

Fuck

frank ether
#

put brutal momentum in there and you're perfect

#

also unyielding is perfectly fine

woeful ibex
#

ok

white minnow
#

pushing a burster that then kills other bursters will now proc tactical awareness on those other bursters

#

very cool

frank ether
#

whats so funny about P13 smoke is that the same dev team that allowed psyker bubble and ogryn shield taunt somehow thought they had to be picky with smoke grenades

#

the double standards

#

I have to get it off my back because I will probably never harp about smokes again

#

but holy hell lmao

white minnow
#

you could also compare it to vet's other nades to avoid making yourself angry with it being class discrimination

slow spade
#

Recon viable now?

frank ether
#

you eat a bit less ammo now

slow spade
#

Pain

frank ether
#

so your teammates can get a tin of ammo or two

#

if you're feeling generous

slow spade
#

331k damage now bois 💪💪

frank ether
#

but sure tbh

#

I'd call it viable now

#

not good

#

but viable

#

its funny to me people complain about bolter ammo when this thing exists

slow spade
#

I wonder if mission deaths actually increase when recon gets buffed

frank ether
#

kekw

#

maybe

slow spade
tiny summit
#

We hotboxing the hive this update

finite imp
#

dev silence for months and then they buff the powersword lol

#

dope

frank ether
woeful junco
#

so how does the psword change work

frank ether
#

How do people not like bolter man

woeful junco
#

lads

#

what can I do now that I couldn't do before

frank ether
#

oh, havent tested yet

#

been trying recon and smoke

finite imp
#

you can activate it mid combo lol

slow spade
woeful junco
frank ether
#

maybe for 3?

finite imp
#

NOPE. See you in another 6 months

slow spade
white minnow
#

no advantage it seems

#

a fairly inconsequential change

slow spade
#

Does it look cool?

white minnow
#

it's something fresh

woeful junco
#

classic

frank ether
#

I dont think psword 6 cares

white minnow
#

i like it

#

hopefully it's the start of a rework for the psword

slow spade
#

I wonder if it makes mk3 feel smoother

wanton dawn
#

Psword seems like a buff to non pc

#

Which is a great change

white minnow
#

i think the timings are the same or at most negligibly different

wanton dawn
#

Maybe we can play without pc now ? whatthefuck_heresy

terse idol
#

Woo! The krieg bag isn't a flat pancake no more let's gooo

wanton dawn
#

Sunder/bm lets go !

slow spade
#

Slaughter + Brutal psword just like the good old days

terse idol
#

And smoke enjoyers finally rise

slow spade
#

I still have my old psword from like patch 6

terse idol
#

Yipee

slow spade
#

We like them big 💪

solemn niche
#

where can i see the patch notes ?

#

also flat is justice KEKW_ogryn

muted knot
somber axle
#

I found it on the reddit

finite imp
wanton dawn
#

They killed my bayo Sitgryn

solemn niche
toxic leaf
white minnow
#

cleave targets itself is just pretty irrelevant

hoary horizon
wanton dawn
white minnow
#

on special attacks, 10.9 cleave at 60% cleave targets and 11.7 cleave at 80% cleave targets

toxic leaf
#

so thats an extra target isnt it

wanton dawn
#

Not really

white minnow
#

depends on the enemy

toxic leaf
#

i see

timid otter
#

Does uncanny still effect the bleed on grenades?

white minnow
#

i don't think it's an extra target on scab/dreg bruisers

#

assuming they have 3.5/2.5 hitmass

wanton dawn
#

Ps cannot cleave through 2 scab rager without help

toxic leaf
#

brutal momentum/sundar should ignore that shouldnt it

#

i just dont know how this works lol

white minnow
#

yeah if you kill them

toxic leaf
#

skill descriptions are wanting

soft solstice
#

So is old shock trooper back for recon las?

solemn niche
#

thev secret is to stack so much damage on your powersword that you oneshot ragers on a headshot

#

this way you dont care if you only hit 1 rager at a time

white minnow
#

sunder is 4x cleave and you can cleave through carapace instead of being immediately stopped by it

#

brutal momentum is, on a weakspot kill, you maintain your first target damage into your next target, and this goes on up to 4 targets

wanton dawn
toxic leaf
#

oh bm is no falloff, not extra targets?

white minnow
#

the description is weirdly misleading

toxic leaf
#

yea lol

white minnow
#

i guess they didn't know how to describe it xd

solemn niche
wanton dawn
solemn niche
#

and this chains up to 4 times

toxic leaf
#

so when you cleave kill with bm, you ignore the 3.5 of the first bruiser? but the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th still count?

glossy pond
#

My shovel poke… NOOO

wanton dawn
#

Up to 4 times

toxic leaf
#

so a bm head level swing will always kill 4 bruisers regardless of cleave targets then

#

or 4 anything

thick rose
#

did they buff the power sword?

toxic leaf
#

(assuming all 4 are 1 shot)

white minnow
#

ye

wanton dawn
#

If you OS them yes

white minnow
little ledge
#

I’m eating good tonight

white minnow
#

the change doesn't change anything in terms of timings

umbral garnet
toxic leaf
#

ok, so cleave targets does seem pretty dump-able

#

affects unpowered swings only that dont one shot?

wanton dawn
white minnow
#

pswords are pmuch the same besides an animation change and the mk6 psword, where the combo is a bit fucked but you can remedy it by block-cancelling

gaunt hinge
#

Smoke Grenades should now stop enemies from shooting through the smoke instantly and prevent Scab Snipers from taking aim and shooting through the smoke. 🙏

little ledge
#

True

toxic leaf
#

wtb better skill descriptions, although that is pretty hard to describe

glossy pond
terse idol
umbral garnet
frank ether
#

whats different

wanton dawn
lost portal
#

Apparently, the shock trooper nerf on crit strings wasn’t intentional

frank ether
#

ok so helbore 3 bayo is officially dead now

#

cool

#

didn't wanna play darktide anyway

#

I sleep, bye

untold mulch
#

lmao

toxic leaf
#

but we can take recon lasgun into fights without eating all the ammo boxes!

#

huzzah, i say huzzah!

gaunt hinge
#

Fixed a case where the backstab sound could trigger for enemies that were in front of the player. 🙏

finite imp
frank ether
#

it was already borderline unusable lmao

toxic leaf
#

sadge that there is no weapon balance

terse idol
#

make guns that are broke

finite imp
toxic leaf
#

still another x weeks of columnus, zarona, and plasma dominance

frank ether
#

you're better off shooting now

#

even poxwalkers

toxic leaf
#

gimp yourself and use somethign else

untold mulch
#

Oh fuck right Columnus ate no changes staregryn

#

lmao

terse idol
#

This patch wasn't reeeeally a Balance patch it seems

finite imp
#

Let's just nerf everything that wasn't OP that'll work

gaunt hinge
#

oh good, now i can help fight daemonhosts that any potatoes facepulled and not face retribution

terse idol
#

Columnus still broke, pgun broke, recon is 🤏 better

untold mulch
toxic leaf
#

yea we gotta wait another who knows how long before content or balance

frank ether
#

Idk dude you ain't gonna nerf the niche little shit I like and then expect me to throw money at you

#

thats not how it works obese fish

white minnow
toxic leaf
#

pls wait until u see our cosmetics tomorrow

#
  • huge whale
terse idol
#

Second the mk1 and mk2 bayonet was goofy

frank ether
#

dont care

terse idol
wanton dawn
#

Am still gonna try it to see

frank ether
#

I'm not logging off helldivers

#

I'll just let you do the testing

gaunt hinge
finite imp
#

i think i know where Arrowhead is getting their new devs from now KEKW_ogryn

terse idol
#

Yes basically BM won't apply to bayonet no mores

frank ether
#

give hb3 bayo a go too

frank ether
#

I want to confirm they didn't do any hidden buffs or anything to compensate

#

I already know the answer

frank ether
#

but wanna extinguish the hopium

finite imp
frank ether
#

thats very easy to test

untold mulch
#

HD2 needs a laser buff and I will just play non-stop

finite imp
#

i mean for the sevs

#

devs

frank ether
#

default hb3 bayonet can't do anythingg more than killing a single poxwalker

#

thats literally all it does

finite imp
#

hell yeah

frank ether
#

you do a slow charge attack

#

and kill a single poxwalker

#

two? no

terse idol
frank ether
#

bruiser? no

terse idol
untold mulch
#

a shame

#

but the server issue take more importance I assume

terse idol
#

Or well not impossible but oh my hod on diff 6 this is ridiculous

frank ether
#

its rough to solo them

untold mulch
#

every meeting probably is full on "HOW WE FIX THIS SERVER?"

finite imp
#

as soon as i saw an update I KNEW it was going to be a 10 gigabyte nothing burger so i rushed here

terse idol
#

The armour bug shouuuuulld be delt with

untold mulch
#

is a good QoL patch

untold mulch
#

for early january

terse idol
#

Considering I'm ALMOST CERTAIN the team that does the server isn't the team that's doing balancing

white minnow
#

it's not like they promised anything grand for this so it is what it is

untold mulch
terse idol
finite imp
terse idol
#

I mean I don't think it's bad

untold mulch
#

Though I give benefit of doubt oas of now

white minnow
#

yeah that's why fatshark basically isn't saying anything

untold mulch
#

My vague knowledge of server issues

white minnow
#

the last comms link was a while ago

finite imp
#

hell yeah

terse idol
#

Like, sunrise all you've been doing in recent memory is shitting on darktide

untold mulch
#

HD2 are probably screaming in office shutting off fires

white minnow
#

i certainly wouldn't want to talk to a community like this

terse idol
#

I dunno what else I can say

#

Play something else we wait

thick rose
#

why would you be unhappy with them fixing a bunch of the annoying shit that was dragging what was in the game right now

terse idol
#

Yeah

#

I domt get it

frank ether
finite imp
#

I just wanted the live service game to be a live service game idk

terse idol
thick rose
#

darktide is a live service game?

terse idol
#

No

white minnow
#

i'd assume that your expectations should be at the bottom of the barrel by this point

#

i'm surprised they're still that high

frank ether
terse idol
#

There's always conflicting discussion about this but FS said it'd be "like" a live service game but it's not live service

#

We KNOW FS will cook more updates

#

But I can't sit here kicking the dirt because there was a QOL patch

#

It addresses issues I had, buffed smoke

finite imp
#

I expect nothing. I just am entertained by the copium.

terse idol
#

Added horde music

#

Adjusted sounds

frank ether
#

horde music coomers are happy I guess

terse idol
#

copium

#

Bro

#

I know you hate the game just play something else 🥹

finite imp
umbral garnet
#

The game's fun to fuck around in I dunno man I just enjoy shooting things in the face and stabbing them in the neck

finite imp
#

Saw update
Came here to lol

terse idol
#

You know the issue people have been asking for a while to vet horde music back

#

I guess I'm cooming

finite imp
#

anyhow see yall

frank ether
terse idol
#

😭

frank ether
#

didn't knew people cared so much for the ambush music

#

I mean it is cool music

umbral garnet
terse idol
#

Didn't know people cared so little for it

umbral garnet
#

But hey, at least the OST fucking slaps.

terse idol
#

You know, parts of why we even praise darktide for doing the horde shooting mechanics right like l4d

untold mulch
terse idol
#

The sound queues....

#

The music

#

🥹

#

But I guess if I praise the horde music I'm a coomer

#

Rip

untold mulch
umbral garnet
#

Those defense missions, man.

#

What the fuck

finite imp
#

Helldivers 2 discussion begin

#

lmao

terse idol
frank ether
#

the scientist rescue with bots is rough

white minnow
#

i suppose it will be a great travesty to you that i have the dt music turned off

forest breach
terse idol
#

And I'm sure it'll be easier when fortify is more consistent

untold mulch
terse idol
#

I care that it's back

umbral garnet
terse idol
#

But I guess yall hate the game so rip

finite imp
#

people are just talking about another game

#

lmfao

terse idol
#

I mean I don't obsess over hating the game

#

I play both still

finite imp
#

obsess is a strong word

forest breach
#

just wait untill we get battle suits with rocketpods and gatling

thick rose
terse idol
#

All I see you do here is hate on darktide

#

Its not a suprise

#

That I think it's an obsession

untold mulch
umbral garnet
#

Anyway, cheers lads, I have shit to do

thick rose
#

patch 17 servitor splash looks nice

thick rose
#

(also fuck the splash popup)

finite imp
untold mulch
terse idol
#

This will be neat to test put the smoke and finally its useful... especially on ventilation missions with sniper hordes

terse idol
#

😌

finite imp
#

I'd argue i love this game more than you lol

untold mulch
#

I love what DT could be

I hate what Fatshark has done as of now

finite imp
#

and you're shitting on me

terse idol
#

Is come in and say it's copium that I appreciate a QOL patch, or the implication nothing good will come

finite imp
#

ok

thick rose
#

wtf has fatshark done?

untold mulch
finite imp
terse idol
#

I play both

#

I'm not gonna sit here and mug all day

finite imp
#

Both what?

terse idol
#

Hd2 and darktide

finite imp
#

oh lol

#

i wasn't even thinking about HD2 that's funny

terse idol
#

I'm not gonna sit here and wait 5 hours to play d2 I'm gin a ply something else while I wait

finite imp
#

I can get you in if you want to skip the queue there's a trick

terse idol
#

No I know

forest breach
thick rose
#

ill still be playing darktide long after helldivers gets boring XD

forest breach
#

cant keepup with dropships

terse idol
#

Its just horribly frustrating is all im saying, FS is cooking and we have other games to play

thick rose
#

darktide can add content, helldivers cant get better mechanical depth and enjoyment from continuing to get better at it

finite imp
#

Slow cooking in a crockpot

#

Helldivers is about to add mechs

#

so idk i feel like there's deff more content coming

#

along with the third faction already planned

untold mulch
frank ether
untold mulch
finite imp
#

poggers

#

40mm CANNON BOOOOOOY

untold mulch
#

For managed democracy

forest breach
finite imp
#

KA FUCKING BOOM

#

Yeah make no mistake

#

I love both of these games

#

Darktide really did something magical

forest breach
#

Crafting is still shit tho

finite imp
#

Yeah fair

terse idol
#

Yeah and you can say that and still say "copium bro"

finite imp
#

idk how the fuck they could even fix it

terse idol
#

It's really that two face style

white minnow
#

it's an imperfect game but i think the current state of the game is pretty good enough to not warrant the extent of this negativity

finite imp
#

you can recognize the devs of a GOOD game are treating you BAD

#

ez

terse idol
#

Go's forbid

forest breach
#

"reduce repetetivness"

spends hundreds of thousands of dockets on one single weapon to get good stats

#

what were they thinking

white minnow
#

doesn't really seem out of intentional malice

#

just some incompetence and a lack of direction

finite imp
#

I just want content bro

#

that's all lmao

terse idol
#

God forbid, you get a small bit positivity in your game discussion

#

But no it's more fun to shit on it

forest breach
#

maybe marketing also had their long fingers in there
player "retention" etc.

finite imp
timid otter
#

Just rework crafting abit and ill be mostly happy about the state of the game.

forest breach
#

but gameplay in darktide is so good

finite imp
#

again

#

not shitting on the game

#

game=good

timid otter
#

Theres needs to be more ways in the game to get god rolls then roll a thousand weapons.

forest breach
#

purge the worst part of the system

finite imp
#

this game made me love knives lol

frank ether
#

they won't

forest breach
#

that is random rolls

white minnow
#

yeah game good and the devs made the game
I still don't see the need to unrelentingly shit on the devs

white minnow
#

i know?

terse idol
#

Does it matter?

finite imp
#

So what does it matter if people vent their frustrations?

terse idol
#

We have a qol patch 🥹

finite imp
#

delicious qol

#

mmmm

white minnow
#

cuz i'm in this server and hang out here and i don't like seeing this absurd negativity

terse idol
#

It'd so fucked that like I want to say this small this is good

#

But I'm jut a copium andy

#

Or I'm a coomer for horde music

finite imp
terse idol
#

Come on guys

#

Its crazy

finite imp
#

yeah it's insane

#

agreed

#

we have really flown off the handle

#

i should get a grip

forest breach
# frank ether they won't

They say they want us to experiment, yet the current system does not encourage that, since you have to use so much time and recourses to make one good weapon.

#

Buuuuuuuuuuut

#

gameplay is amazing

frank ether
#

there is no experiment with the crafting

forest breach
#

yes

untold mulch
#

Lads

frank ether
#

its just them taking you for an IDIOT

#

''haha you look like an idiot you'll eat this lie''

finite imp
frank ether
#

''go brick some more weapons idiot''

terse idol
#

I mean the blessings to be fair are an attempt to create different play styles in the weapons what turned out was that

timid otter
#

Many of the weapons arent anyways fun to experiment with

#

Lots of them just plain suck.

terse idol
#

There are only ever 3 good blessings

untold mulch
terse idol
timid otter
#

I tried to make the agrippina revolver work

#

It just wasnt fun to use.

frank ether
#

It doesn't matter that there is a blatantly clear superior choice for pretty much every single weapon, you're eXpErImEnTiNg

finite imp
#

He's starting to believe

untold mulch
#

Guys, I can do a topic change

but no one is gonna like it

terse idol
#

Because the zarona is opay

frank ether
#

no balls

finite imp
timid otter
#

Ye and the agrippina is awful.

untold mulch
#

LOOK

#

LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOI

timid otter
#

its damage falloff is ridiclous combined with its low base damage in comparision to zarona.

frank ether
#

is that the top piece for scion helmet

civic venture
#

I mean I like patches that fixes stuff and add QoL additions. Those are always important, but I am disappointed that there wasn't any major content added. Smoke nade buffs are nice, I guess.

untold mulch
terse idol
frank ether
#

kekw

#

no this isn't good enough

finite imp
#

THAT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING FROM A MEDIEVAL ROLE PLAYING GAME LOL

frank ether
#

it has to be sold a separate piece for 1400 aquillas

untold mulch
#

True

finite imp
#

oh my god

frank ether
#

only then I can feel the premium quality

finite imp
#

The ONE THING they love to fuck the players over with they're fucking that up too?!

#

come on dude

frank ether
#

lmao

untold mulch
#

I am actually laughing

#

Like legit

frank ether
#

yea its funny

finite imp
#

COME ON DUDE

terse idol
#

Its datamined I dunno what to tell yall

frank ether
#

actually failing to farm your whales lmao

finite imp
#

THIS IS THE ONE THING

terse idol
#

🥹

frank ether
#

I mean its cool and all

#

I don't mind that chest piece

civic venture
#

looking at Helldivers 2 in-game store then this game's made me realize to never spend anything in DT. =/

frank ether
#

but I know %100

untold mulch
#

Oh fucking hell KEKW_ogryn

frank ether
#

nobody will buy that for the scion set

terse idol
#

Man

finite imp
#

Imagine being able to earn premium currency in EVERY SINGLE MISSION YOU PLAY THATS CRAZY RIGHT

#

NUTS EVEN

untold mulch
terse idol
#

Go into the helldivers discord, negativity, go into darktide discord, negativity
😌

#

Look at data mined item not released yet

untold mulch
terse idol
#

dt is failing

#

😌

frank ether
#

same with me

#

I'm not saying I'm morally superior

finite imp
terse idol
#

Well yall can circle jerk I'll be here once it settles down again

untold mulch
finite imp
#

it's kind of everywhere

frank ether
#

yes I fed the obese megalodon

#

mistakes were made

finite imp
#

same

frank ether
#

I was drunk

untold mulch
#

I alwyas go

finite imp
#

i was STONE COLD SOBER

untold mulch
#

Fool me once shame on you

#

thats it

finite imp
#

I BELIEVED

untold mulch
#

Learned my lesson

solemn niche
midnight totem
#

How's the new power swords?

untold mulch
#

Oh god the armor actually hurts to watch

finite imp
onyx moss
#

Wait, just woke up and saw the patch notes...

frank ether
white minnow
terse idol
finite imp
midnight totem
#

I see

onyx moss
#

Was the only thing for the power swords that you can activate without losing your attack chain?

untold mulch
frank ether
#

I mean pessimism is one thing but the people that tag cms daily scare me lmao

civic venture
#

like I love DT, I put 410 hours into it. It means I love it. But I won't lie that the crafting system really kills the endgame. And the MTX store is getting more and more expensive while adding less value plus they keep making graphical mistakes with them constantly.

onyx moss
#

Fun. So they play the same?

terse idol
#

We'll get the content update I'm certain

finite imp
midnight totem
#

Now what's this about a new armor cosmetic for vet that's shitty

white minnow
#

yeah the same besidees the mk6 that begins from the l2 on the second activation

finite imp
solemn niche
#

mkVI is literally the same because you block cancel the activation and blocking resets your combo

#

mkIII playis slightly different

terse idol