veteran-class

[umbral scaffold]

u can skip the mid tree before the blitz ability and take demolition stockpile, i found is a pain in the ass dealing with hordes with marksman

[tiny summit]

Nah, I have demo team. I'm not spending 2 points for stockpile

[umbral scaffold]

i'm playing with randoms i need it😂

[cloud phoenix]

me too, what solution you find best to deal with hordes ?

[junior needle]

Just replace those yeeyee ass perks on the ciag and you're good to go. Also keep in mind that finesse affects attack speed on melee weapons.

[junior needle]

Your melee weapon, find one you like and git gud with it.

[pliant sentinel]

Power sword is very effective

imo

[junior needle]

Oh yeah it's very strong, although I don't like the charging mechanic

[pliant sentinel]

I've gotten used to it

[cloud phoenix]

how rare is the Cycle IV? I spent billions of plasteel never seen that

[tiny summit]

Shovel

There's a dude with like 3 full pages of orange power swords who didn't get it

And then you can be like me and get it first try

[cloud phoenix]

orange swords? I go for the first perk and drop if not cycle

is dat bad

[pliant sentinel]

I got it first run

so idk

lol

[slow spade]

Cycler had to be specifically buffed to spawn more often before

That's how rare it was

[trim hemlock]

It’s more economical, that’s for sure

[slow spade]

Yes

Last upgrade has better upgrades

You're better off going for orange

[cloud phoenix]

unrelated but is there a go-to build for quickdraw stub revolvers?

[hollow ibex]

on vet? melee specialist is the meta slave must-have for revolvers

[umbral scaffold]

WS and a decent melee

[umbral scaffold]

u need krak too

[tiny summit]

Kraks aren't for hordes

[atomic zephyr]

shredder frag <3

[midnight totem]

All you need for hordes is a decent melee and good dancing boots

[tiny summit]

Infil and now it's your team's problem

[atomic zephyr]

i love popping invis and dropping three frags on a horde that wouldve otherwise overwhelmed the team

[midnight totem]

If I infil in a horde it's to get free charged hits on mixed maulers and ragers

But otherwise it's to help my zealot taunt

[serene bough]

yeah invis underhand grenades are pretty good

for shredders at least, kraks will break stealth once it sticks to something

[agile forge]

2 is all you need

With the bleed stacks

[atomic zephyr]

true

i reserve 3 for when things are really fucked

though i dont often have that many lying around

[tiny summit]

demo team will proc trust the rng, throw all 3

[midnight totem]

Sometimes if I have a spare krak I'll toss it atop a downed teammate who is being hammered on

[tiny summit]

Throwing a krak won't hurt, it's just very meh for horde

[midnight totem]

Even if it's not as effective as a shredder drag aoe wise, it will still kill anybody atop it and send the rest stumbling back.

[fervent quiver]

I swear demo team doesn't proc as much as it should

[tiny summit]

I feel like it procs enough

[fervent quiver]

Or I got a terrible round of luck in a game

[tiny summit]

I use demo team as my only nade regen on infil and exe builds

Well yea...rng is quite the rng

[fervent quiver]

...oh no I have the worst idea

Demo team proc on ogryn rock

[tiny summit]

It could probably help if it isn't already, pseudo-rng. 5% and then slowly as more procs happen it raises its chance

[fervent quiver]

Knowing rng, 5% is either all the time or never at all

I just want it 10%

[midnight totem]

Ogryn should get the ability to throw teammates with different abilities

[fervent quiver]

Though it would make the grenade refill invalidated

[midnight totem]

Fast ball special

[fervent quiver]

A tactical psyker nuke

Or an ogryn squishing a daemonhost

[wanton dawn]

Displacing allies is room for toxicity

[lost portal]

The rock is strong enough. I have a clip of one DESPAWNING A DAEMON.

Not killing, despawning. It literally stopped existing after the collision.

Found it.

[terse idol]

If youre playing auric damn it'll come back up pretty common

[fervent quiver]

Then the emperor really didn't like me that round

[terse idol]

Sent to the shadow realm

[lost portal]

Back to the warp canonically

[terse idol]

😌

[fervent quiver]

Um... where did she go

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo want play as commissar. Know what weapon need talent tree

[wanton dawn]

Laspistol voc mark

I guess

[tiny summit]

There was a DH that we all saw spawn, I was being mindful of it because we started getting pushed back into it. DH despawned because no one aggroed it and when the horde was over, it was no longer there

[hoary horizon]

No need talent tree not weapon.

[wanton dawn]

Well, what weapon you use

[hoary horizon]

Chainsword heavy las pistol

Will not change weaponry

[wanton dawn]

I just said laspistol

[hoary horizon]

Not care meta care only for roleplay

[hoary horizon]

But need talent tree weapon already done

[wanton dawn]

Lemme check what i can do

[hoary horizon]

Thank you!

[wanton dawn]

I left you with 5 point to do whatever (commissar-like tree)

[hoary horizon]

Ooohhh

Ulgo look at perk tree later in game

[peak badge]

https://imgur.com/gallery/iE7u7Qc

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo try get that

[fervent quiver]

Go weapon specialist

Or whatever the damage switch one is

[peak badge]

I have my own "entirely sup" commissar build lol

[fervent quiver]

Mine is one I stole from the website

The... mk x?

With the mk3 ps

[muted knot]

The what now

[fervent quiver]

The heavier laspistol

[muted knot]

Ahhh

[peak badge]

I'm trying to roll a good heavy laspistol rn so I can do a true commissar build

[fervent quiver]

I didn't expect it to do damage, but it fucks

[peak badge]

I keep getting the stupid back shot perk though

[hoary horizon]

Agreed

[peak badge]

laspistol feels super perk reliant

[muted knot]

That's good

[peak badge]

I dont like ikt

[fervent quiver]

I stole some blessings from my other classes

[hoary horizon]

So do knife. Little knife Ulgo means

[muted knot]

Raking fire is honestly pretty damn good on last pistol

You really just want like dum dum

And flak/maniac for perks (I assume)

[fervent quiver]

I don't have a commisar outfit, so I went cadian officer

Went dum dum infernus

Boss grenade

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo only slightly disapointed. Hope they bring more commissar

[muted knot]

Infernus kind of whack on the mk10 cause it shoots a lot slower than the old one

[fervent quiver]

My boy is cadian

[muted knot]

Carapace damage ?

[fervent quiver]

Fills in well for lack of rpm

[muted knot]

What

[peak badge]

I may have spent too much time with the plasma

[fervent quiver]

Infernus

[muted knot]

Send a screenshot of the damage breakdown please

[fervent quiver]

And also, one shot elies is funni

Elites

In car

[tiny summit]

Ghost is a pretty cool blessing

[muted knot]

I just don't see how those 2 relate to infernus ? The problem is that you get the same damage from fire stacks no matter what weapon you use

Or do you mean that crit+ burn kills things which a normal crit doesn't ?

[fervent quiver]

Tbh, it's a bossing thing

[fervent quiver]

Crit already just rips

[tiny summit]

I don't like the rof on the mk10

[fervent quiver]

I never thought I would like it

[tiny summit]

May give it another shot

[muted knot]

@peak badge imma need you to swap that carapace damage to something that actually doesn anything

[peak badge]

I dont use this pistol I'm trying to get more perks

[muted knot]

Ahhhh

[fervent quiver]

Think of it as... a Las revolver

[muted knot]

Hunting for t4 blessings ?

[peak badge]

something wont let me toss a 380 roll

yes

[muted knot]

Absolutely fair, best chance for t4s

[fervent quiver]

Look into your other ops

[tiny summit]

But doesn't hit as hard as the revolver. It's a mobile Ia iLas

[fervent quiver]

See if they have some in the melk store

[muted knot]

I just feel like moving around with the laspistols feels weird

[fervent quiver]

On crit it does. No one tap crushers though

[peak badge]

Best red Commissar I can make without tassles LOL

[tiny summit]

Mk2 laspistol with MF is actually nice. You can just strafe and hip fire and keep stacks up very easily

[hoary horizon]

Hmm... Ulgo say...

[tall torrent]

Between The Eyes is completely irrelevant for laspistol

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo finking

Hmm

[lucid pasture]

Take your time, Ulgo.

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo fink that...

[muted knot]

Don't overheat your bonehead implant buddy

[fervent quiver]

Sir, when did we invite the big man here?

[muted knot]

Listen to the furry

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo believes that

[peak badge]

Or there's the standard basic black officer

[muted knot]

We can't stop ulgo from going anywhere so we just let him do his thing

[hoary horizon]

ADD RED HAT THEN BOOTIFULL

[peak badge]

I dont like the red hat with that outfit

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo pop here and there.

[muted knot]

And I don't say that often

[hoary horizon]

Wear what want. Ulgo say do what you like

[lucid pasture]

Reasonable, that.

[fervent quiver]

Got a basic cap

[peak badge]

that's what the package came with

[fervent quiver]

And the cadia stands uniform

[peak badge]

I want the coat to be red

and have tassles for the red hat

[lucid pasture]

Ulgo's the very liberating sort, I like that.

[hoary horizon]

Yes ulgo see's

[hoary horizon]

Thank you sah

[lucid pasture]

Do those two caps still make your character bald, unlike the tan one that doesn't for some reason?

[hoary horizon]

Ooohh

[lucid pasture]

Or is your character just a chrome dome?

[hoary horizon]

Penal officer

[hoary horizon]

Me? Ulgo has metal part sometimes yes

[peak badge]

I chose a bald character by default so i dunno

with aquila forehead tattoo

[lucid pasture]

Oh I didn't mean you bigman, but that's still quite impressive.

[muted knot]

I like that one

[fervent quiver]

THE PLANET FELL BEFORE THE GUARD DID

[hoary horizon]

Thank you!

[muted knot]

*broke

[lucid pasture]

Gotta get your catchphrases right, my man.

[fervent quiver]

UwU

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo likes lot

Ulgo follow orders

[lucid pasture]

Dan be out here hijackin' my look from yesterday

[muted knot]

But you get the spirit across guardsman

[fervent quiver]

Outcome: Cadia Go Boom

[hoary horizon]

ULGO GET REFERENCE

[muted knot]

If WW2 USA had commissars on the field on the west front

[zealous wyvern]

literally the same outfits

[lucid pasture]

Accurate, aye

[zealous wyvern]

he has your red one up there too

this one lacks the jacket but eh

[peak badge]

I wanted a red commissar with tassles

I wanted to be Yarrick

[hoary horizon]

Ooohh interesting

Ulgo like commissar choice

[peak badge]

In rogue trader i made basically the same character too

who was a commissar before becoming rogue trader then joined the inquisition

[lucid pasture]

From rogue trader to inquisition goon, I'd call that a fall from grace

[peak badge]

Inquisitors can range from puritan to radical just as the rogue traders do

[lucid pasture]

Oh well yeah, I just assumed you meant in the context of your Darktide character.

[peak badge]

darktide came out before rogue trader

so he fell from grace before the start of darktide

then gets accepted back into the inquisition

[hoary horizon]

Ulgo was killing bugs before

[peak badge]

then becomes a rogue trader

[lucid pasture]

Damn good work, Ulgo.

[hoary horizon]

The became bodyguard for commissar

[peak badge]

I dont want to spoil any late rogue trader stuff

but I get my wish

[lucid pasture]

Please don't I'm still on chapter one lmao

[hoary horizon]

Commissar died Ulgo got jailef

Ulgo now here

[peak badge]

I got stuck on the chapter 4 boss and now they just did the massive like 12 gb update

I will have to restart chapter 4 it seems

[hollow ibex]

I’m just going to give the game a year or two lol

[slow spade]

Chapter 4 so far has been us fighting to get a turn

Whoever gets a turn solo wipes the entire fight

"90% cover + 95% dodge" -> still 95% chance to hit 💪

[thick needle]

why does Fatshark mock me with these so often

[junior needle]

Save them for when (if) tac axes get buffed

[thick needle]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[umbral scaffold]

shotgun build...works really nice

[tall torrent]

@junior needle update, I tried running my game at higher framerate and frame gen def helped a lot. Thx again

seems like if I cap to 60fps it does barely anything

but if I go 90fps it's a lot better

[umbral scaffold]

i was hard stuck at like 30 frames and I moved the game to my faster hard drive and immediately got to 60-70fps avg

i think sumn to do with your hdd speed helps with fps

[wanton dawn]

Omfg, i casually broke my elite kill per minute while recording a bolter video

[tall torrent]

I have SSD cuz I'm on laptop

[fading vessel]

Everyone hates taxes hyuck hyuck hyuck

[wanton dawn]

26m game

[fading vessel]

Best melee weapon is catachan sword change my mind

[tall torrent]

best defensive melee for sure

[viscid sparrow]

btw, which would be generally better on a Columnus IAG build: +5% crit chance or Catch a Breath?

[tall torrent]

what does ur tree look like

[wanton dawn]

depend. Do you have deadshot ?

If you don't those 5% crit are bonkers

[viscid sparrow]

no, I don't have deadshot on my build, but I do have the toughness regain augment of Tag keystone, Out for Blood and Iron Will...

[wanton dawn]

lemme calculate

[fading vessel]

Don't forget Infernus weapons that set people on fire

Recon rifle with infernus is very nice

Basically a flame thrower

[wanton dawn]

5% crit on columnus increase your effective crit from 11% to 25%

assuming you have no other source of crit

And on columnus, a crit% is roughly equal to dmg%

so yeah, those 5% increase your dps a lot

[fading vessel]

100% crit possible?

[wanton dawn]

It does not work that way

[fading vessel]

Confused

[wanton dawn]

Columnus has crit string

Which mean a single crit is equal to 4 crit

It makes thing slighly more complicated to calculate but the base idea is: the first % of crit are more efficient

[fading vessel]

Ah, it scales your crit

[tall torrent]

recon lasguns aren't great rn

[fading vessel]

I still rock it, it works for me

Aldo my phone Finn die

[tall torrent]

hopefully they get some buffs next patch

[viscid sparrow]

btw, I think 71% Stability is not good enough for me to hit heads reliably with Columuns IAG, the recoil is too much...

However, I got very lucky with my Columnus IAG's upgrade rolls, and I don't wanna have to re-grind the plasteel and coins needed to make a better one...

[tall torrent]

crouching reduces recoil noticeably

[viscid sparrow]

really? I thought it only reduces spread, and even then only when crouching in place...

[junior needle]

Not quite, they only apply stacks to one target at a time and the damage per stack is nonlinear

[tall torrent]

there's no ADS spread unless you're being suppressed

and crouching reduces recoil for most weapons where recoil is applicable

[tall torrent]

u can try crouch spraying a full mag vs standing spraying a full mag, the recoil consistency will be very noticeably different

[white minnow]

they buffed crouching for IAGs during a patch

[junior needle]

They're objectively quite subpar compared to other guns in terms of dps/ammo efficiency, even compared their closest competitors.

Subjective feelings of usefulness are not terribly reliable, but I'm sure if higher difficulty you'll notice the difference if you use other guns

[fading vessel]

I play heresy

Infernus with high crit makes it set everyone on fire

[tall torrent]

u can enjoy what u like

but they need buffs

[fading vessel]

It is okay with infernus, bolter is arguably better but less forgiving on potato aim

[tall torrent]

infernus probably also need buffs (separate from recon lasguns)

not much point taking infernus rn

[fading vessel]

It is free damage, like I always grab the 1 bleed per melee hit

[tall torrent]

it's free but often meaningless damage

[fading vessel]

And the 10% rend

[tall torrent]

and pls don't take serrated blade unless u play knife with mercy killer

1 stack of bleed doesn't matter in 99% situations

[fading vessel]

I do have a knife with bleed stack

Bleed hurts thru armor

[tall torrent]

bleed needs like 10+ stacks to deal actually tangible damage

[fading vessel]

Yea but that is easy to reach

[tall torrent]

serrated blade only exists to enable mercy killer

[tall torrent]

with frags, yes
wirh serrated blade, no

[fading vessel]

I dont think I have mercy killer lmao

[tall torrent]

then don't take serrated blade ever

[fading vessel]

I am zooming around with a sword and a laser famas just having a good old time

I also run the thing we're you insta resurrect people

When u press f

[tall torrent]

honestly, if ur having fun that's what matters

[fading vessel]

I normally just try to follow people and play a support medic

[tall torrent]

but u should prob try damnation eventually

and rework ur approach to various enemies

[fading vessel]

Damnation is hard

[serene bough]

the only use i can think of for serrated blade is upkeeping Bloodletter stacks on bosses

[tall torrent]

not really relevant when veteran can stunlock bosses with nade + VoC

[serene bough]

yeah its less than optimal

but its the only use I can think of

[tall torrent]

1 bloodletter rev is 14 stacks already

[serene bough]

otherwise its a meaningless talent

[tall torrent]

it's just for mercy killer

[fading vessel]

The catachan sword is big dope tho. I cut thru everyone with that, and I have a thing where it has all the cleave thingies

[digital rock]

Is it just me or I cannot get always prepared to work? I mean the extra ammo

[serene bough]

wouldnt take mercy killer personally

[fading vessel]

Yeah idk, the ammo thing is wierd

[tall torrent]

which one, +25% ammo or keystone modifier

[fading vessel]

The one where you get ammo on special kills

[digital rock]

Keystone modifier

[tall torrent]

that one regains 3.3% of your missing ammo with every melee kill stack

rounded up

it's good for zarona revolver and shotguns (to an extent)

[white minnow]

if you're running exe's stance then it won't work if you ult to swap

[tall torrent]

it's not really relevant for any other weapon

[fading vessel]

Is the revolver actually good?

I rock a bolter pretty well

[digital rock]

Voice of cmd

[white minnow]

very, the zarona in particular

[tall torrent]

way better than recon lasgun at the very least lol

[white minnow]

always prepared works for me

ammo isn't regenning in your mag or what

[fading vessel]

Idk, I will look into the specifics more when I get home from work lmao

There is a perk where if you aim for like 2 sec before you fire you get garenteed crit

[digital rock]

yeah

gonna try again

[fading vessel]

What is best gun for veteran

[tall torrent]

revolver/plasma/columnus mk5 IAG

[fading vessel]

Big iron on his hiiiiiiip

[wanton dawn]

I think bolter is king on fog maelstrom now

[viscid sparrow]

depends on your preference.

easy to use/very high dmg? Plasma.
needs as little upgrades as possible to work at least acceptably? Columnus IAG

[fading vessel]

Do you guys play damnation

[tall torrent]

yea

[timid otter]

Sedition gamer only

[tall torrent]

basically exclusively damnation

[wanton dawn]

exclusively auric maelstrom

[digital rock]

yh, not working

dunno why

[white minnow]

and you're killing an enemy with melee and then swapping to your ranged right

[digital rock]

yeah

[junior needle]

That would be why. Also your perception of setting things on fire makes it look like it's doing more than it is. Also, dot effects do considerably reduced damage to carapace

And generally less to flak

[thick flint]

the most important part is to have fun though

if you enjoy it theres no reason not to use it

[bitter turtle]

I exclusively don't play darktide

I just pretend I do

[thick flint]

we can tell

[bitter turtle]

I don't even actually own the game

What is a war hammer

[thick flint]

you dont even exist

[bitter turtle]

And why are there 40000 of them

[honest crest]

This sight is the worst thing to ever exist, and the little wings to the sides showing you your charge are also the worst things to exist.

[bitter turtle]

Time to download mods

[lucid pasture]

Weapon customization mod and crosshair remap mod is what you're after my friend.

[toxic leaf]

came back from 7 hours of driving for work and expected some update...no update

my day is ruined again

[junior needle]

I choose to have fun at the expense of other people, that’s why I run the worst setups I possibly can

[lime pendant]

I hate myself too!

[junior needle]

I don't hate myself

I revel in the suffering of others

[hollow ibex]

I should be allowed to be the asshole hoovering up the entire maps ammo every once in a while

[junior needle]

I do it because I enjoy it, that's treating myself well

[amber mortar]

everyone deserves a treat

[idle swallow]

"out of ammo sounds like a skill issue" I say while taking the big ammo pack for 5 autogun rounds

[untold mulch]

I love how I hear only a few ammo mentions

and Know is Recon hours discussion

[toxic leaf]

were you the vet that showed up in my no ammo, melee maelstrom using infiltrate and bolter, with no ammo aura????

and then said dont worry i got regenning nades

[junior needle]

I haven't used a bolter since before aurics or maelstroms became a thing

[wanton dawn]

@serene sage that's one dedicated to yah, I had p12 bolter flashback on this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25eC9HOnQxk

[junior needle]

So possibly

[wanton dawn]

Would not bring bolter in no ammo though

[tawny parcel]

anyone have a weapon swap build they can share?

[hoary horizon]

Not easy to make Ulgo suffer

[wise fossil]

You mean like a Weapons Specialist build?

[honest crest]

Trying Vet for the first time since launch. Played a lot of Zealot recently and I love the chain weapons. I'm trying the tinier chain sword on vet right now and I feel like I'm really liking it a lot

But at the same time I don't just want to use the chainsword on every character I can.

[serene sage]

Wait how do you get 20s CD Exec Stance?

[gray finch]

20% cd reduction

[austere pine]

just played a match with laspistol 2 and it feels dependant on survivor. am i tweaking or is this an actual thing?

[gray finch]

from mostly ranged maelstrom

[tired hornet]

I’m getting better with the plasma gun and I had this situation I’m very proud of. Someone provoked a DH, it killed one teammate, and was about to kill the other unless I shot a charged shot at it immediately. The problem was it was at 100% heat. I did what had to be done.

[junior needle]

Survivor?

[austere pine]

bullet back

scav?

scavenger?

whatever

[junior needle]

survivalist now

But yes, laspistols have high damage potential but their ammo efficiency is worse than infantry lasguns

[austere pine]

the one that gives more boolets

[junior needle]

Conveniently the ammo reserve node is right next to shocktrooper

[tiny summit]

Laspistol 2 good

[gray finch]

https://youtu.be/xbiIYVtuUkw?si=T11EjHqduyDas97Z

[junior needle]

You should be taking survivalist anyway

[austere pine]

nay. drugs aura fnuuy

hehe xd

[junior needle]

It looks more professional if you don't do the csgo random knife thing

[gray finch]

i didnt inspect it mid game

[junior needle]

Taking it out and attacking the air for no reason is close enough

[gray finch]

movement tech is a reason

[junior needle]

[gray finch]

i think you know that by now

[junior needle]

I do not, I've never seen anyone do that

I assume there is some extremely marginal gain in movement from the lunge

But like, just sprint

[bitter turtle]

nah

it saves stamina too vs sprinting

holding charged attacks lets you move a lot faster

[junior needle]

Truly fascinating

[bitter turtle]

bayonet has a similar gimmick

though much less pronounced

if u see people holding charged attack everywhere on bayonet

[junior needle]

Now I can better move ahead of my teammates to try and snipe more kills to make my scoreboard look better

Many paths have opened to me

[empty kettle]

Worth buying?

[junior needle]

That's pretty good for a melk drop actually

You'd just have to change the perks

[empty kettle]

Thanks soldier Tier 4 gets hot would’ve been better but I don’t mind I’ve been looking for an 80 damage one

[toxic leaf]

yea thats pretty darn good

shame about the ammo roll but its got usable blessings, 80/76 to boot

[empty kettle]

Is charge speed important?

[bitter turtle]

no

you dont charge plasma

left click

[empty kettle]

[toxic leaf]

it affects uncharged shots too doesnt it

[bitter turtle]

in the past, yes

a bug

not really anymore

i tested and saw a like 1 or 2dmg difference last time i tried

for different charge speeds

like literally 1 or 2 dmg

[toxic leaf]

no i meant the actual delay time

[bitter turtle]

no

i dont think so

[toxic leaf]

oh really?

[bitter turtle]

like what

the firing speed?

[toxic leaf]

yea

i just bought a gray one and it says 0.60s delay on hip fire at 80 charge speed, 78 charge says 0.61s

[tall torrent]

It affects left click delay before firing (small impact)

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/2c03e9283dc49bbb6d23234cb920c56f.png

[tall torrent]

You’re looking at usually 40~60ms at most on left click

[bitter turtle]

i was looking at this

i dont notice any difference in practice though

or if there is one its barely anything

trying at 0 and 100 charge speed

[honest crest]

Should I use the MK VII devil's claw, or the MK I? I prefer the MK VII's attack patterns a little more since they're about how I use my evis as Zealot, but I'm not sure which is preferable otherwise.

[tall torrent]

It’s noticeable but usually more of a “feel” thing

Higher charge rate is going to feel more responsive

[tiny summit]

Use what feels nice for you. Most people prefer the one with horizontal lights and it's first heavy as a strikedown

[honest crest]

So no major stat pitfalls in choosing one over the other? Cool.

Can anyone recommend some blessings for it? I've played Zealot recently, but prior to that I haven't played since launch basically.

[timid otter]

The devils claws are like only differnent by combat moveset

damage wise they are all very similar

[tall torrent]

Mk7 is generally considered the better with its multiple strikedown options

[dusky flare]

mk 1 with zealot toughness on heavy kills is the most braindead clearing

[hollow ibex]

Mk IV gang rise up

[tall nova]

rampage and savage sweep for horde clear

[tall torrent]

Rampage, savage sweep, shred

For mk7 specifically, rampage + Skullcrusher can put up some very impressive numbers due to how many strikedowns you can get in a row with it

[void rampart]

Worth for a power sword?

[junior needle]

Only if you have nothing better

[void rampart]

Yea

[junior needle]

Supercharge bad, perks are not good

You want the 6 too currently

[void rampart]

I'll skip then

why 6 over 3?

[junior needle]

It's just better atm in terms of moveset

[void rampart]

LOL

Abominable intelligence spotted

[rain badger]

[slate sleet]

is this le plasma any good????

[tall nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/969273475544019005.gif?size=48&name=DIESOFCRINGE&quality=lossless

[rain badger]

Crispy Frie🅱️

[honest crest]

Playing Brunt's gacha booth

saw I got a 380 rating

[hollow ibex]

That damage tho

[honest crest]

This is unsalvageable because of the damage, right?

First 380 I got on any attempt ever. Highest otherwise was 376-ish

[hollow ibex]

Yeah I wouldn’t bother with it unless you’re just rolling for bbl blessings

[wise fossil]

It's a 380 dude. It's good. It's a low damage weapon too, so the damage stat matters less

[honest crest]

Oh yeah?

[tall nova]

that's not how that works

[hollow ibex]

See the variation in the detailed stats card

[tall nova]

you want damage as high as possible

[wise fossil]

Take it into the psk and see if it feels bad

[hollow ibex]

I doubt it’s worth rolling a 60 damage weapon

[honest crest]

You mean this?

Here's another one with 80 percent damage.

[hollow ibex]

Hmm idk if that’s making a huge difference in breakouts

Breakpoints

[honest crest]

I'm not familiar with how damage stats like this translate to play, 140 for a heavy attack isn't bad, is it?

[wise fossil]

I just checked in the calculator. The difference between your sword and an 80 damage sword on infested type for a H1 swing is 8 damage

Your sword

80% damage sword

On a headshot you miss 19 damage

[honest crest]

Cool, so this actually is a great option then? I'll try Hadron's roulette table on it then.

[wise fossil]

On a light 1 headshot it's 136 and 143 respectively

It's not going to be GG without 80% damage, the others are right. But it's by no means unusable

[honest crest]

Hmm.

[wise fossil]

Probably devastating strike to rampage & infested to flak 🤔

Though infested could be okay if you plan on shooting all elites

[honest crest]

Most of'm, yeah.

I don't have Rampage unlocked yet (Haven't played since Launch, except for the last few days)

[tall torrent]

Usable but not godroll

[gusty bison]

Eh u aint gonna be shooting all elites

[rain badger]

2.4 damage is not a deal breaker. Conscencrate that to yellow and see if you get something good.

[gusty bison]

Especially like ragers

[honest crest]

I did, peep'm.

[rain badger]

I always scroll down on desktop and it doesn't auto scroll, so this always happens to me as I try to catch up on reading

[gusty bison]

As a note laspistols are pretty reliant on headshots

If ur bodyspamming ur dps is not that notable

[gray finch]

do onslaught apply while enemy burn/bleed or was it fixed?

[tall torrent]

Patched

[junior needle]

Patched awhile back

[near sable]

post gaunt fighting on armageddon from hammer and bolter with the music playing over it

i lost it

[wanton dawn]

Onslaugh doesnt work but thunderous still work. Can be used for silly shredder meme with crusher

[frank ether]

might be okay based on breakpoints and what build you use

I'd go do a little testing, tho general rule don't get too obsessed over rating

[frank ether]

nah I think it has more than enough cleave for that already

you could run this weapon gray and it woud still chew through infested really well

just use a proper cleave attack pattern I recommend H1+L1 and then repeat for DC7

very easy head level horizontals, for trash that is not densely packed you can just spam lights ofc

[winged warren]

quick question do vets get kant shotgun?

[wanton dawn]

Yes

[winged warren]

thanks dood

this procced by gun?

this good build for kant + caxe?
not so sure if i still need reload speed with the keystone

[torpid pier]

Does the Cleave Targets matter on Psword 6 with Sunder?

[pastel lark]

its not bad in theory but in my view you are missing out on a few things
this is the build i run as CQC

[white minnow]

pretty inconsequential

on special attacks, 10.9 cleave at 60% cleave targets and 11.7 cleave at 80% cleave targets

[pastel lark]

Personally infiltrate brings more to the table when it comes to CQC but voice of command is more generalist so that is really up to you how you prefer to play

[torpid pier]

sweet, ty 😄

[pastel lark]

My build is more on movement and mobility alongside dmg buffs

[winged warren]

if i run caxe why do i need the brittleness node
why need the +20 stamina on melee spec?
no ammo aura?

[winged warren]

how come?

[pastel lark]

Caxe deals great dmg when activating its special, but not all the times you will be able to do it so i took it to give its base attacks a bit of more power, also helps the team dmg on single targets as the brittleness you apply also helps them
The stamina node when activating talent special is so you can sprint or push so it gives you some CC or mobility
The ammo aura for is not useful in this scenario as the kant shotgun is quite ammo efficiant if built correctly

[torpid pier]

So far +600k dockets lost without power cycler, this blessing is cursed

in this one session

[winged warren]

doesn't caxe 3 hit all man size stuff

3 hit gunners

2 hit bruisers and below

[pastel lark]

yes and no
depending on witch mark of the caxe and its stats + difficulity

[winged warren]

godrolled caxe of course

hold on

lemme show u

something like that

this on my zealot

[pastel lark]

ohh you ment combat axe
thought you ment chain axe 😄

[winged warren]

ah, yeah i see people usually call chain axe chaxe and combat axe caxe

so yeah i was wondering how come take brittleness

so for comat axe

no need take brittleness?

@pastel lark

[pastel lark]

coming with a clip in a sec i have a similar axe

this is why i take brittleness
my singe dmg went from 847 to 876
its not much but to me if i can shave off a mit for HP with 1 hit it means less work in the end

this is my axe

and my shotgun

[wanton dawn]

Mine is sillier

It is a special gun

[winged warren]

can yo utest with 80 pen, if it will reduce thresholds also

[pastel lark]

its not mandatory try it and if you see results roll with it

[winged warren]

also how come for this one? ^

sorry, very broken english

[pastel lark]

Infiltrate gives you mobility, extra dmg and allows you to move unnoticed due to the talents i chose
it allows you to kill priority targets, kill monsters quicker because of the extra dmg
it also allows for team play, revive,take out of net,complete obj while remaining in stealth

[frank basin]

Voice of command same utilize as “give me breathing room” or get over toughness in certain situations

[pastel lark]

exactly

thats why i said is more of generalist not directed for something
dont get me wrong Voice of command is good but infiltrate is more useful if you play it right

[frank basin]

Not a fan of Infiltration. I use just try clutch get teammate revive.

[pastel lark]

i tend to be the team monster killer and obj guy so maybe thats why it fits more for me 🙂

[winged warren]

after listening to you

[wanton dawn]

Voc allow you to push special, ignore corruption from buster, push green boss, push green crusher, with lower cd and point investment

[winged warren]

i have this

[wanton dawn]

Errr

Thats kinda silly

[winged warren]

[pastel lark]

why this one ?

[winged warren]

you said don't need survivalist
so i went with ms

i don't think 5% hits any thresholds right?

[frank basin]

[pastel lark]

but the middle one is dmg to you and allies 👀

[winged warren]

yeah but 5%

no threshold

whats the point

[wanton dawn]

What have you made this man do kradd ?!

[pastel lark]

i broke the lad

[frank basin]

Fr

[pastel lark]

he lost the plot

[frank basin]

You killed the recruit

[wanton dawn]

His blood is on your hand

[frank basin]

He’ll die on auric

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[pastel lark]

he really might actually 👀

[pastel lark]

my dude thats a bit toooo much movement speed and it will not benefit you that much 😦

[frank basin]

He’s going veteran knife

[winged warren]

but 5% damage is literally useless
you said no point in survivalist
i can be the wind

[wanton dawn]

That looks like a zealot build

[frank basin]

[pastel lark]

exactly what i was thinking

[winged warren]

it is

[frank basin]

You are a discount zealot

[pastel lark]

wish.com zealot

[frank basin]

Go join Scrier gaze psyker

[frank basin]

Indeed

[winged warren]

zealot doesnt have that high of uh, gun crit chance.

[pastel lark]

man you do you see if it works but i don't think it will

[frank basin]

Zealot is speedy

[winged warren]

btw is the run speed for all classes the same?
i know some base dr values like while spriting and while sliding is different for all the classes

[frank basin]

I felt ogryn is bit or quite slow

[formal rock]

Zealot very fast, second fastest class in the game after ogryn

[pastel lark]

base stats no they are all different afaik

[wanton dawn]

Speedier. Speed aura is bad zealot aura cuz it does not make you faster (than your team)

[frank basin]

With the speed built on zealot make go faster

I tried with Eviscerator feel speedy on run with I forgot the talent 10% move speed

[wanton dawn]

Fast zealot need to leave teammates in the dust. And shroudfield away to bring those four advanced packs to their mates

[frank basin]

Lol yeah

[pastel lark]

@frank basin i remembered that i just made a build yesterday with voice of command
1 shot commander build

[frank basin]

Except I don’t use shroudfield

[winged warren]

whats the minimum range for 20% inc ?

[frank basin]

Close range is 7-8 meter

[formal rock]

it's 8-30m

[pastel lark]

for 20% i remeber something like 25m

[frank basin]

25m is old in old feats

They changed close range down to 8 meter

[winged warren]

oh yeah i wanted to play the 1 tap volvo build on vet as well

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[pastel lark]

[frank basin]

This is my reaction

When they changed down 8 meter

From 15

I think

[pastel lark]

built it for when i can stay in the back and relax while some1 else is the frontliner 😄

[frank basin]

Then chaff enemy sneaks up behind you

[winged warren]

but with this one, you literally can't move right

also can't pierce bulwark

[pastel lark]

you can
you have to crouch walk

[frank basin]

Be crabteran

[pastel lark]

exactly 😄

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/spycrab-tf2-team-fortress-gif-4794774

[winged warren]

so if crowd comes onto you need to headshot like 4 peeps again?

[pastel lark]

no weapon pierces bulwark shield if thats what you ment
but it can kill about 2-3 enemys in a line before disappearing

[winged warren]

wait volvo cleave is only 3?

[pastel lark]

essentially

[pastel lark]

from what i tested thats about right

[white minnow]

somewhere in the range of 6 or 7.5 cleave i forgor

just that enemies have >1 hitmass

[winged warren]

i see

[winged warren]

my voidstrike does
technically kant does as well

\

[frank basin]

🛌

[winged warren]

wait if you cleave, does it count as one guy or 3 guys. for the node

for this keystone

[pastel lark]

counts as 3 guys if all 3 are headshots

so with a well placed shot you can get 6 or more stacks

[winged warren]

i see but you will become a literal turtle
just that the turtle's back has a .50 bmg

at least with staffs i can slide cancel and can still dodge to reposition / dodge gunfire
hmmm.

lore wise what is the difference? @pastel lark

[fluid gust]

One's an officer, one isn't

[wanton dawn]

I rate marksman focus pretty low compared to focus target. Getting meaningful value from the former is an ordeal

[rancid tinsel]

Ones an NCO promotion because of recognized value, the other might be more akin to being in a special regiment like the famed Cadian 8th, drastically different background choices

[pastel lark]

exactly what i wanted 😄

[wanton dawn]

Also FT has better synergy with deadshot

[winged warren]

what leads to me going to the special regiment

i read on reddit veteran is like you go through many battles?
like literal war experience

[pastel lark]

yep besically

[rancid tinsel]

Could be you were directly recruited into it, or that your regiment overtime earned status through famous deeds, or after a deployment your wounded regiment was merged with a famous one to reinforce numbers

[wanton dawn]

Yet we all end up as rejects convicts fighting nasty ass nurgle zombies

[winged warren]

so if i am an edgy 12 year old that wants to be cool i would pick the NCO?

[rancid tinsel]

Yes that is what veteran means, and for the Guard, that could me anything from surviving your first 48 (15 actually) hours or to having a long list of deployments

[wanton dawn]

48h seems generous

[rancid tinsel]

Woops, it’s 15

It’s been awhile since I read that book

[winged warren]

does the background

change any voice lines?

my head cannon is that veterans are more gruff but nco sounds cooler due to to position

sorry im an edgy 12 year old mentally

forgib

[rancid tinsel]

Supposedly it influences what your character reacts to in terms of other rejects and environment

But it’s hard to tell since there’s no measurement and I don’t think people have data mined how it works

[winged warren]

im expecting nco to have more boring lines?

but theres the possibility that veterans just rambles about his past war experience

[wanton dawn]

Prob affect melkman ?

[winged warren]

hard to choose

[rancid tinsel]

I think so

[stiff glacier]

Still want to swap voices

[terse idol]

That's just Cadia voice

[rancid tinsel]

It’s unmeasurable, because most of your lines are gonna be affected by the personality you choose at the end

[wanton dawn]

Or cadia

[winged warren]

yeah i hate the cadia one
loose cannon sounds fucking funny LOL

i like loose cannon

fits my head canon of the character as welll

[terse idol]

Like the whole 3 Vets are like

Professional: By the Book ahead of his class Vet
Cutthroat: Scarred from fighting for his life on Cadia, pretty elite
Loose Cannon: Professional dope™️, Kicks ass but is a dick head to cope

[wanton dawn]

My professional is from cadia. Get a few lines out of it

Not too much, just a bit

[bitter turtle]

DIS

WUNS

FER

CADIA

[wanton dawn]

Better than SeVeR tHe HeAd

[terse idol]

I don't even know if like the planet combo actually affects, it, any lines in particular?

[bitter turtle]

Is sever the head professional

[terse idol]

Sevah dah 'ead, dah bodi dies

Naw, it's cadia

[bitter turtle]

idk whichever one says that line has so much cringe lines

[winged warren]

i think professional is the most popular one yes?

[terse idol]

I LOVE that voice line

🥹

[winged warren]

cadia is the most annoying one

[bitter turtle]

Sorry I called you cringe

[wanton dawn]

Male yes. Have female

[bitter turtle]

I meant its the coolest one

[stiff glacier]

Cutthroat has great voice of command lines

[bitter turtle]

Loose cannon has the ha ha funny lines

[wanton dawn]

Female pro sounds angry all the time

[stiff glacier]

Turns into psycho on a hair trigger

Female cut throat is bit meh

[terse idol]

One is good enough to be special forces
The other showed aptitude to be an NCO

[wanton dawn]

Female pro also has some kickass voc delivery

[terse idol]

It's like

Being good enough in Cadia, through battle

To be part of the Cadian 8th

Vs showing apptitude in training to be bumped up to NCO

[stiff glacier]

My friend had hilarious comparison of the female loose cannon sounding like lesbian truck driver

[umbral scaffold]

Not even necessarily aptitude

I feel the name "field promotion" implies the next person just died so they were who was left over to take it

[bitter turtle]

sever the head

the booty dies

[terse idol]

Hmm

[wanton dawn]

Sewer the head

The body dye

Wat

[bitter turtle]

sevwah the hewd
the bwody dwies

[terse idol]

Well, I mean if anything I guess that goes with Loose cannon

Who's most likely closest to be, the guy who got field promoted

[rancid tinsel]

Eyup

[terse idol]

Again I like to head canon that Loose canon could lead a squad to victory even though his squad would look like shit during inspection

[stiff glacier]

Loose cannon is the "does the work but bitches the way through" kind of guy

[winged warren]

what does my base skill do

[umbral scaffold]

I like to believe that Loose Cannon fragged their sarge for their position if they were to be field promoted

[terse idol]

Hmm, I think he'd be too lazy for that 😌

[wanton dawn]

Loose cannon is bitter, not a traitor

[terse idol]

Yeah

Again, like, at least the way I see it, he's on-par with Professional AND Cutthroat, and that's big shoes to fill

He's good, real good

[frank basin]

Is loose cannon voice fit as mercenary characteristic?

He’s sound like not speak professionally naming enemies

[fluid gust]

Loose cannon is the "I know what a fucked up situation this is so I might as well try to enjoy it I guess" voice

[terse idol]

Naw, he's like that like, Honestly I mean (I'm pretty basic on military/marine memes)
He's like E7 Mafia personified

As far as I can understand

[frank basin]

Right

I picked professional try fitting my mercenary character

He’s sound like regular soldier when he’s calling out enemies names codex

Oh well

[fluid gust]

All veteran guardsmen characters have gone through guard training, it just didn't stick that well with the loose cannon

[stiff glacier]

Loose cannon is the perfect combo of the tired grunt with cant/dont care attitude

[terse idol]

well the codes, at the very least, the training itself kept 'em aliive

[placid portal]

Nah just sheer luck

Like the one time I switched seats with one guardsmen and he got sniped from the trenches

[stiff glacier]

Cut throat is latent psychopath

[fluid gust]

And LC is also one of the few voices that sometimes snaps back at the mission handlers, here when Hadron talks about a bunch of hab blocks being reassigned to factory duties

[frank basin]

His attitude doesn’t care but he still have little heart

[terse idol]

It just depends how you head canon em

[frank basin]

Helmetless guardsmen

He’s the chapter

[stiff glacier]

Voxstrap

I demand voxstrap

[placid portal]

I don't think any training can help you from surviving artillery barrage or machinegun nests if you're storming in

[frank basin]

The cadian shouty?

[fluid gust]

Also another Loose Cannon classic

[frank basin]

What is he rambling about?

[fluid gust]

He sometimes responds with that if a zealot starts talking about trusting in the God-Emperor

[placid portal]

The Empra clearly saved him by using his platoon's blood to hide his body from evil

[frank basin]

Ah. This LC doubting him

LC is heretic

[placid portal]

more grounded grunt

but won't defect because they like having a nose

[stiff glacier]

Loose cannon trolling zealot is great

[placid portal]

because somehow being a heretic causes your nose to rot off XDDD

[frank basin]

Lmao

[fluid gust]

Nah, the Moebian 6th cut their own noses off, it's not rot

[placid portal]

why though

[fluid gust]

To make their faces look like skulls

[placid portal]

they are cosplaying fallout ghouls too hard

[fluid gust]

Note that they've also ripped part of their lips off

[stiff glacier]

Would be cool to see mobians to get some blooded squad inspired units

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-darth-side-of-the-force-is-a-pathway-to-many-abilities-gif-21623328

[placid portal]

I like my nose, I will keep it

[frank basin]

Got your nose

Teehee

[placid portal]

right where it should be like the empra ......

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/so-be-it-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-star-wars-gif-17602502

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-racing-gif-26528796

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/nose-got-your-nose-cop-asdf-asdfmovie-gif-13438479

[placid portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1084916659673890838/1117435071729778698/B4C41E7E-3305-443B-96D1-6523994F2AD6.gif

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cat-bit-video-gif-14264780414888402835

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-yeet-funny-gif-21938191

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catnom-bite-leg-gif-16279618

[formal rock]

Quick question fellas

What are the combos for the XIIg chainsword?

[frank basin]

I run wrath

[formal rock]

Ah, I meant attack combos

[frank basin]

Oh

I spam light attack

[formal rock]

Doesn't appear to be a straightforward "only sweeps" and "only singles" chain there

Like the other chainsword

[frank basin]

Xiig heavy attack is all overhead

I still like xiig despite light attack spam i done

I forgot what push attack like? Stab?

[formal rock]

I've been doing push-attack > light 2 > heavy 3/light 3 for wave clear, it's okay but feels a bit janky

[formal rock]

it's a horizontal sweep

[frank basin]

You could do that

I think just spam the light attack on xiig that’s what i do

And dodge

[formal rock]

I find it can be a bit awkward for stuff like wrath/rampage, easy to miss the push and ruin the stacks

[frank basin]

Yeah just spam the light attack

Is does sound like turn brain off

That’s what it is

[formal rock]

Play too much ogryn, always want to spam as many heavies as I can

Gotta unlearn that habit

[frank basin]

Using slab shield?

[formal rock]

Yep. Prett much everything tbh

[frank basin]

Lol

[formal rock]

Only two weapons that spam lights are bull butcher and XVI(?) shovel (the blue one)

Everything else is just

Tape down left mouse button and hold w

especially with thrust

and crunch

[frank basin]

I literally use krouk knife spam heavy on horde

Thrust i depend on it

[formal rock]

the mk VI? that thing is super underrated

[frank basin]

Yeah people said is bad or mediocre

I still use them

[formal rock]

It's not bad at all, it's probably the fastest trash mulcher ogryn has

[frank basin]

Fr

[formal rock]

On the level of zealot eviscerator

[frank basin]

Thrust with mk 6 goes right

I run with fnp and dmg rdc on charge attack

[formal rock]

The only thing is that ogryn doesn't really need more waveclear, and it struggles against carapace unlike mk IV

[frank basin]

Yeah

[formal rock]

So it's not that it's bad, more like it's unnecessary

[frank basin]

Carapace is worse for krouk knife

[formal rock]

I like thrust and the blessing that lets you ignore hit mass on fully charged attacks

pair that with the uninterruptible heavies talent and crunch/batter and hot damn

Mk VI go brr

[frank basin]

Indeed

[formal rock]

It is kind of a weapon you need to build for though

Which is the issue

[frank basin]

Right

[formal rock]

bull butcher and mk IV are pretty much ready to go out of the box no matter what build you use them on

I use them for my gunlugger because they're very competent with nearly no investment

Mk VI on the other hand really asks you to invest in your heavies

[frank basin]

The cleaver crowd control light attack pattern already good for horde but slight bad against carapace

[formal rock]

Heh, bit of an understatement there haha. They plink off crushers

[uncut wadi]

Man, being playing nothing but maximum grenade build and no other build ever come close.

[formal rock]

Bull Butcher is for poxwalkers, groaners, and roamers. Everything else, there's Mastercard™️ Gorgonum, my beloved

[formal rock]

I know right? Smoke grenade spam is absolutely game-breaking.

As in, your teammates will keep kicking you out of your matches

[frank basin]

People find smoke grenade useless

No benefit

I still use it

[radiant chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/shea-butter-pop-sheabutterpopcorn-wednesday-happy-gif-18981052

Me when the vet is spamming smoke grenades

[formal rock]

It makes for extremely cool Valkyrie extraction cutscenes when you have raytracing and volumetric clouds on extreme.

Worth tbh

[frank basin]

Lol

I can’t afford that

[radiant chasm]

Me on lowest so i can get a stable fps in hordes

[formal rock]

Same tbh

[frank basin]

Game developing is hard

Optimization is hardest

[steep isle]

Is deadshot any good at all? I’d love to use it but losing that stamina is a bit much.

[frank basin]

Not good on high rof weapon

People see is worth on Columnus IAG using stamina curio

[formal rock]

We're still a long ways off from practical runtime raytracing methinks. Especially since it's one of the things where you pretty much can't have too many rays

[frank basin]

Yes I can see that.

[formal rock]

Shame, because seeing the ingame lights reflecting off your catachan blade in real time looks sooooo good

But stuff like that isn't worth the ~40fps hit

[frank basin]

Yeah

Shiny and laggy

[steep isle]

Would it work well with the Boltgun? Me thinks it would be good for Orthus

[formal rock]

It's one of the most impactful talents in the game both in benefits and costs. I definitely have a lot of trouble unlearning the habit of ADS'ing automatically. ADS becomes a very specific tool instead of just a thing you do while shooting

[frank basin]

For boltgun yeah. To play on twin boss; I think not.

I use Graia brauto dakka shoota

[formal rock]

Having 3x+12% stamina regen perks, a +3 stamina curio, and that .25s stamina regen cooldown talent in the marksman (and melee vet) path helps a lot. Kind of easy to accidentally find yourself in the middle of a horde with no stamina, otherwise.
It's also probably the only talent in the game where running +2 stamina perk on a ranged weapon actually might make sense, lol.

[frank basin]

Have fun talk. I’m going sleep

[formal rock]

night!

[steep isle]

Wait holy fuck I think I found something

Ok I’m 90 percent sure Fatshark used the same textures as Valve did with HL2

But dont quote me on that

This isn’t the channel to chat about it tho

[uncut wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-gif-24962083

[formal rock]

Wouldn't surprise me. Gamedev is full of reused assets. Not every artist wants to keep remaking new grass and metal textures for every single game

[steep isle]

There’s that

CW//Gore referenced
||And then there’s using an actual corpse as a reference||

[formal rock]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-metal-metalocalypse-dethklok-nathan-gif-9219183

[wanton dawn]

Deadshot good on bolter. Bolter not good on twins

[formal rock]

Ashley pfp makes this image hit a bit different tbqh

[steep isle]

Should I post my findings in #darktide-pics-vids ?

[wanton dawn]

I know this style...

[stiff glacier]

[steep isle]

Eh, idk, seems like it would violate rule 3-4

Repost because it might confuse the Ashley stuff going on-

[dusk idol]

hey boys

hows it going

[formal rock]

https://youtu.be/YNUHGoyeoI4?si=REQCe7UYtGYj68cH&t=91

[steep isle]

Are we allowed to contact mods about questions?

[white minnow]

prolly

they're pretty chill

[blissful flame]

finally got "gets hot! IV" banked

sniff it's beautiful

[formal rock]

Grats on the plasma, looks great!
The stats, I mean. I don't know why plasma gun with a stock looks so cursed to me...

[blissful flame]

i just like butts tocks

[vale ledge]

Fellas

I have a question

What would you think if we got an dual wielding varient of the laspistol

Like you just use two at the same time instead of one

[austere pine]

so very ironic actually

[frank ether]

more common on sound design

also movies too

[austere pine]

what's the funny "yeahhuhuhu" noise called again?

used in so much film media

[frank ether]

I'm not sure lol but I know what you're talking about

not even more memorable stuff like that but even something as simple as

a gun sound or a creaky door opening

[blissful flame]

like the goofy yell?

[austere pine]

creaky doors i think i've heard only one that gets remastered into something a bit different every time

[blissful flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo

[austere pine]

yes. when like somebody falls from something or whatever

wait maybe

[blissful flame]

is that the one?

i was too fast lol

[formal rock]

Might be thinking of this one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP7WJL2JtLs

[austere pine]

it is the one i was thinking about but i'm fairly certain i heard it be called something else

YES THAT'S IT

i got confused

[blissful flame]

ah, so it was just the AAAAH and not a yeahuhuhu lol

[austere pine]

how's this, bros?

at melk

[blissful flame]

see also, howie scream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUTe2ndjRew

[austere pine]

i think i remember this from l4d

also, this. melk offering interesting stuff today

[formal rock]

It's okay, but not outstanding. Getting Headtaker IV is probably going to be the best use of it

[austere pine]

i actually also got decent contracts

funnily enough, the worst one is the no death one

which is also not garbo

[late hatch]

low finesse and meh perks and blessings. its ok but i wouldnt buy unless you really want to try one out and have lots of milkybucks

[blissful flame]

this is my ideal week

i actually burned a lot of melkduds tonight

3k on a lame plasma, but that got me "gets hot iv" which resulted in the plama i posted earlier

2.5k for my first actually alright flamer, though it's just one flame stack short of max

and another 2.5k on my ogryn for a shovel to finally bank bromentum for it

[late hatch]

still fine. what diff do you play on? a lot of these things you only really notice playing HIST

[blissful flame]

last night i was finally brave enough to jump into a regular damnation on vet, I did just fine. Not quite sure about my offensive stuff, but I've got a more supportive tanky build anyway

I'll not complain about "not being a burden to the squad"

to be fair i should have been on damnation a long time ago, i bet

[austere pine]

playing hist feels like a self-inflicted warcrime or sexual assault whenever i end up in a mission

it's actually so stressful

[blissful flame]

yeah, it was honestly not qutie the confidence that was holding me back, but not wanting the stress of it

[late hatch]

normal damn feels chill once you get used to HIST

[austere pine]

(which it should be but wow it's so noticeable)

even once you get used to damn

[blissful flame]

i mean i just did a low intensity shock trooper gauntlet on heresy and was like "where is everyone?"

[late hatch]

I play damn when im drunk or stoned. Aurics or maelstrom when I really wanna play