k hopefully it will work better
#veteran-class
sonic marlin
terse idol
Well
untold mulch
We have. But just because they are playtesters, doesn't mean they are actually are correct
And don't TAKE it wrong, I am not insulting them
terse idol
As far as we know
untold mulch
but I have NO REASON to believe them
white minnow
tbf i think they were referring to a different version than the one we got
crystal dust
so bolter still bad?
white minnow
since crab did remark that this version was not the one he thought we would get
terse idol
tall torrent
I’d prob run smth like this
sonic marlin
so bolter still bad?
was it eve good?
untold mulch
Yeah
Though tbf, he was blindsided I think about the critstring nerf
crystal dust
was it eve good?
yes it was one till it got nerfed lol
untold mulch
Like, Fatshark did a change that WASN'T playstested
Because THEY ARE FUCKING GENIUSES
bitter turtle
I’d prob run smth like this
i like wep specialist v3 to go any other tree lul
woven tide
Bolter hasn't been touched, so it's still mediocre
white minnow
so bolter still bad?
it's good but it's more of a DMR/crit weapon now
untold mulch
Bolter isn't top tier
but is not bad
frank basin
Calvade pinning firing boltgun
bitter turtle
Yeah
Though tbf, he was blindsided I think about the critstring nerf
too late
he's forever a liar in my book
😔
crystal dust
it's good but it's more of a DMR/crit weapon now
what does calvade do? I have not played in a while lol
woven tide
You can definitely make the bolt gun work though
untold mulch
he's forever a liar in my book
frank basin
what does calvade do? I have not played in a while lol
Each 10% round spent increase crits chances max stack to 5
tall torrent
what does calvade do? I have not played in a while lol
Build up crit chance as u continuously fire
crystal dust
hmm so not pinning fire and armor pen anymore
slow spade
if only the bolter had the funny amounts of damage as the plasma
I personally go Surgical + Pinning Fire on the bolter
you are going to stagger on hits + Surgical makes shots count
crystal dust
going to reinstall dark tide lol, i heard they nerfed my baby and go sad so i uninstalled lol
crystal dust
thank you everyone
bitter turtle
kinda ok on laspistol?
i just realized
i cant hit OS bp on shotgunners
without it
tall torrent
is unarmored actually like
For mk10 I think it’s not bad
bitter turtle
im using 2
tall torrent
For mk2 I honestly just treat it as a dps machine more than anything
untold mulch
going to reinstall dark tide lol, i heard they nerfed my baby and go sad so i un...
I am thinking of actually uninstalling rn
bitter turtle
in that case
isnt it not a bad idea for spamming down dreg gunners too then 🤔
maybe im just coping
sonic marlin
so would my way work with voc and the weapon specialist path for mk6 psword?
bitter turtle
so i dont have to make a new one
tall torrent
isnt it not a bad idea for spamming down dreg gunners too then 🤔
Yea u can role play as a retired csgo pro and just hipfire click every gunner in existence
terse idol
was it eve good?
bruh
tall torrent
It just works
terse idol
You
bitter turtle
lul
terse idol
Gotta learn
Not the meta
I'm sorry
This meta discussion is getting to the worst bits
sonic marlin
mm i don't think so
terse idol
yes, it's good
bitter turtle
dont use that tree for ciag/psword lol
sonic marlin
oh
bitter turtle
that's for v3/rashad
bitter turtle
yes
tall torrent
that's for v3/rashad
Btw if u haven’t tried, I think CS4 + V7 is not a bad combo
bitter turtle
but the melee buffs still work fine right?
if you want to try wep specialist psword
there's the tree i'd use
tall torrent
CS4 gives u the unyielding dmg u said u lacked with shovel + V7
bitter turtle
tall torrent
And it’s not bad for horde clear compared to a shovel
bitter turtle
Btw if u haven’t tried, I think CS4 + V7 is not a bad combo
man
ofc melk only gave me the 13 in shop
lul
i tried it a bit but i really dont like the 13 at least
tall torrent
untold mulch
Yea u can role play as a retired csgo pro and just hipfire click every gunner in...
I need recon to go back to Hipfiring snipers
tall torrent
man
CS4 I run rampage + bloodletter
Bloodletter gives u great flexibility with rev atks
U can 1 rev heavy (bodyshot) a mauler
U can 1 rev light (HS) both ragers
U can 2 rev heavy (HS) crushers
And 1 rev light (HS) bulwarks & reapers
tall torrent
Bloodletter IV 14 stacks of bleed can do some very serious work against most enemies
On top of chainsword naturally having high unyielding dmg for the role play aspect
U just don’t horde clear as braindead as rampage + wrath/SS
terse idol
mm i don't think so
Literally half of the discussion we had earlier was the bolter being "good" before the patch
bitter turtle
its a melee weapon
terse idol
Sit yo ass down
tall torrent
I might try SS + bloodletter
bitter turtle
of course you miss sometime 😔
sonic marlin
Sit yo ass down
drink a cold glass of water
terse idol
unbelievable
tall torrent
Felt like rampage didn’t really improve the weapon against bruisers
tall torrent
U just need +flak perk
wary galleon
I AM A GUARD AND IM DIGGIN A HOOOOLE
DIGGY DIIIGY HOOLE
IM DIIIGIN A HOOLE
I LUV ME SHOVEL
agile forge
I AM A GUARD AND IM DIGGIN A HOOOOLE
DIGGY DIIIGY HOOLE
IM DIIIGIN A HOOLE
I ...
Call it Mandrew
tall torrent
>its another 4 dmg stat episode
It’s very lenient on the mauler 1 rev heavy bodyshot
I think this chainsword I didn’t even have +flak
wary galleon
Call it Mandrew
if only i could name my builds 😢
tall torrent
Tag it
bitter turtle
lol
tall torrent
Lemme record another
bitter turtle
nah i get you
i tested with the 13 i have anyway
it only took a few ticks
so i get what you mean
its flexible
the bloodletter just fills in the dmg ur missing
tall torrent
Also being able to 1 rev light bulwark is very useful
U just hit them and forget abt them
bitter turtle
time to farm bloodletter 4
tall torrent
bitter turtle
i wanted to make chainsword work anyway
but i just didnt understand anything gud about it
this osunds fun tho
tall torrent
I went from Rashad -> DC7 -> CS4 back to Rashad
bitter turtle
i tried dclaw
didnt like it much
like yeah its kinda good at hordes
but man
i like my melee be able to kill armor
lul
tall torrent
DC’s flak dmg is miserable
tall torrent
Lemme send the new recording
I have 67% shredder
Didn’t even take 10% melee dmg
bitter turtle
ye
trying it with the 13 it actually seemed like its the seccret sauce
the rev attack seemed so bad to me before
didnt kill anything
tall torrent
U can fight ragers a lot better with bloodletter
terse idol
so bolter still bad?
it's pretty alright if you build for EXE, Focus target for like
Special killing
Boss deleting
tall torrent
Hold block against their combo
Rev, push atk, wait a few ticks, go back to block
terse idol
very useful on "Specialists sometime spawns as monstrocities"
tall torrent
They’ll die from bleed
U don’t even need to go full Rev ticks
In case there’s multiple ragers on u
Bloodletter doesn’t give u 1 rev light vs mutant tho
The shredder stat basically only matters against crushers
That’s when bloodletter doesn’t really carry u over breakpoints
civic knot
What to change? Keep rampage and run that along with shred?
wet elk
fleet garden
when patch
junior needle
Whenever they need to fix some more clipping cosmetics
fleet garden
so never, gotcha
civic knot
how much does 170 cleave increase your weapon's damage to subsequent targets?
junior needle
Cleave damage is a separate stat to cleave (hitting multiple targets)
Sometimes the cleave target stat on weapons will adjust both, but the cleave stat on blessings seems to just to affect your ability to hit multiple targets
I will test it now though
umbral scaffold
I’m happy my main gun is now max god roll
junior needle
Sometimes the cleave target stat on weapons will adjust both, but the cleave sta...
Gonfirmed
junior needle
I’m happy my main gun is now max god roll
God roll
elite
special
falter
umbral scaffold
> God roll
> elite
> special
> falter
try it out then
junior needle
Why would I want to try out lower value perks and a blessing that not only gives you no damage but also makes it harder to hit subsequent headshots?
umbral scaffold
you saying that yet i tested it its good enough damage stacking with perks
so idk what youre on bud
but ok
umbral scaffold
wanna say onsluaght is best with surgical but getting only 20 percent per hit isnt best
when i can get 40 percent
and saying it charges slow isnt the case Xd
junior needle
You can use no respite instead of falter, it won't gimp you at the very least
umbral scaffold
You can use no respite instead of falter, it won't gimp you at the very least <:...
i tried it and yeah tbh
not the best combo in terms of pure damage crits just does it so much better
its great with bayonett though
that kinda combo
but when are you using bayonet as a primary
junior needle
No no, no respite instead of falter
Not no respite with falter
That's the typical "I want to maximize surgical" blessing
dusty nacelle
How important is cleave targets on a DC4 assuming i'm really just using it to hordeclear?
junior needle
How important is cleave targets on a DC4 assuming i'm really just using it to ho...
You can use this website to see cleave values (doesn't work with power alterations currently): https://dt.wartide.net/calc/
bitter turtle
its great with bayonett though
use no respite for bayonet
and yes
i use bayonet as primary lul
helbore is actually just a bayonet with a bonus gun attached
junior needle
Swap ds for dumdum and sprint efficiency to flak
bitter turtle
the spear part is stronger
bitter turtle
no respite makes it easy to 2 shot rager with bayonet stab
junior needle
dumdum is bugged to be much better than it seems
junior needle
Yes, that's the most value
white minnow
is dumdum bugged?
junior needle
It functions like anoint in blood
instead of what the description actually states
Literally like anoint in blood
exactly the same mechanically apart from the stacking
white minnow
huh neat
bitter turtle
is dumdum bugged?
ya so you still get a damage boost beyond 8m
junior needle
So it's active up to 25m
bitter turtle
it just drops over distance
junior needle
How important is cleave targets on a DC4 assuming i'm really just using it to ho...
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies Also this for hit mass values. It's decently helpful for hitting more targets and I think you can reach 4 bruisers with the horizontal heavy with rampage (it apparently gives power now)
white minnow
at least just testing with loadout config, that just seems to be how close damage is implemented
testing with fire frenzy and the rightmost +close damage on ult talent node
unless it's just that those blessings and the talent are uniquely fucked compared to whatever other sources of close damage exist
just seems like how .damage_near or close_damage_buff be unless there's something that should be overriding those values
terse idol
dumdum is bugged to be much better than it seems
Doesn't it just
Give you the buff
But unless you're close
You don't get the damage
fleet garden
exactly what it does
you can stack dmg on range
but dmg benefit is when you are close
junior needle
You don't get the damage
No, to both of you. Unless its been patched very recently, the damage bonus is effective up to 25m instead of 7m
Just tapering off, exactly like anoint in blood
white minnow
that just seems to be how close damage is implemented though
in general
rather than being specific to dumdum
if dumdum is bugged, then fire frenzy and the +close damage on ult talent node are also bugged
junior needle
Ff works the same at all ranges
Despite being close damage
And the close damage on ult, let me check
Last I checked it just didn't apply past the distance
7m
severe adder
what is best power sword? 3 or 6?
hollow ibex
6
white minnow
i stood at a distance >8m and compared 5 stacks of t4 dumdum with 3 stacks of t4 fire frenzy (both nominally giving +30% close damage) and dealt the same amount of damage
severe adder
randomly decided to roll and powersword and got that
hollow ibex
nice sword but imo if you're going to get a ps, you might as well get a 6
white minnow
then, I stood at a distance >8 and compared 3 stacks of t2 dumdum with the +close damage on ult node (both nominally giving +15% close damage) and dealt the same amount of damage
severe adder
nice sword but imo if you're going to get a ps, you might as well get a 6
so... take ps 4
hollow ibex
yeah take the pc4 off
severe adder
kk
junior needle
Huh, looks like the ult got changed to be that too
I tested it awhile back and it just didn't work outside of that range
white minnow
ohh
severe adder
what is the other good blessing for powersoerd
white minnow
recent change then huh
hollow ibex
brutal momentum or sunder
bitter turtle
what is the other good blessing for powersoerd
Bromentum or sunder
severe adder
shit really??? i already go sunderer
bitter turtle
Yes
white minnow
brumo for more damage and sunder if you want some more CC
severe adder
or slaugthere
bitter turtle
Passable but worse
severe adder
im running it with a ciag
bitter turtle
Bromentum better for hordes
white minnow
rampage/slaughterer are p much just out-competed by brutal momentum
severe adder
sunder ig
umbral granite
Remind me: What stats do you look for when making a good mk4 cadian assault chainsword? Damage and shredder, then i forget if Finess or Penetration is more important.
bitter turtle
Remind me: What stats do you look for when making a good mk4 cadian assault chai...
damage, finesse. penetration are important
shredder lesser so
you can dump mobility or shredder but preferably mobility
shredder only affects rev attack
umbral granite
ah, I thought it also applied to the heavy attacks, since you can hear the rev sound when you do a heavy
bitter turtle
no
also the numbercatperson shared with me the secret sauce today
put bloodletter on it
so you can oneshot mauler/bulwark and 2shot crushers
with rev
umbral granite
put bloodletter on it
I was already aware of this...
bitter turtle
ok
fine
i guess im just out of the loop
fuck you too
😔
here I was putting rampage wrath/ss on it like a chump
umbral granite
I am basically attempting to upgrade this thing. hence why i was asking about the important stats again
I originally got it as a blue mission reward and consecrated it a few times before swapping out the stamina perk for flak and bloodletter 1 for bloodletter 4
Rev-it-up is a fun blessing, but it's not the best when you're weapon's mobility stat is so low
umbral granite
Brunt you karking BASTARD i was so exited when i saw the 3 80% stats before i looked at what they were attatched to.
midnight totem
Ah, the assault chain massager
umbral granite
This one is almost promising... but that ripper stat seems a bit too low for me.
odd sparrow
This one is almost promising... but that ripper stat seems a bit too low for me.
well if you just want to spam left click its good
umbral granite
well if you just want to spam left click its good
I get that, but... if i just wanted to spam left-click i would just use this.
paper brook
So what are key talents to use when using the Zarona Revolver?
trim steppe
weapon spec keystone
native furnace
Huh. This worth it if I went Supercharge to BM and groaners/pox to Carapace? I know there was a breakpoint out there specifically for Crusher two-shot combos.
The +1 power cycler is irritating, but if the goal is to 2-shot the crusher anyway...
junior needle
The stats are alright, those perks and supercharge are uh
bad
If you don't have anything else then it can be worth the pickup though
Fishing for cycler 4 can take quite awhile
faint beacon
nothing makes me more depressed then watching the other veteran rush ahead on Malestrom while im down and force me to respawn like double the distance away from everyone else
junior needle
recent change then huh
I think it's a great direction, the damage cutting off at 7m~ would be an extremely dumb design decision.
white minnow
ikr
native furnace
Fishing for cycler 4 can take quite awhile
I actually have Cycler IV already! I'm just looking to build the super-Mk-VI that can specifically do the crusher two-shot super easily.
white minnow
make everything anoint
junior needle
I actually have Cycler IV already! I'm just looking to build the super-Mk-VI tha...
You'll lose qol for other things from not having the 3 strikes, just consider if its worth it for you
umbral granite
this is the best shotgun right
For veteran, The agripinaa is definitely the best shotgun.
odd sparrow
If you don't have anything else then it can be worth the pickup though
cycler 4 got a lot easier to find after the skill tree update. It used to be absolutely egregious though. I remember someone on here having 400+ hours in this game and still didnt have Power cycler 4
junior needle
Technically it became much easier to find after the crafting update, don't think anything changed on the talent patch specifically.
Although I still, albeit rarely, see people complaining on here about how many pswords they roll only to not find it
feral cave
Got a decent shovel roll, gonna switch out All or Nothing, what perk should I take? please @ me
harsh ridge
Got a decent shovel roll, gonna switch out All or Nothing, what perk should I ta...
limbsplitter or decimator
feral cave
Yep gonna put on Decimator, what perk?
feral cave
I was heavily considering it, just wanted a second opinion. Thank you!!
harsh ridge
no problem :)
trim steppe
Got a decent shovel roll, gonna switch out All or Nothing, what perk should I ta...
yeah i'd say replace groaners with maniac
native furnace
Got a decent shovel roll, gonna switch out All or Nothing, what perk should I ta...
If you can, get aim to roll for an Mk VII instead some day, if you can to replace it. The ability to one-shot crushers, mutants, etc. is pretty OP, and you keep the sweep heavies for hordes. That one takes Thrust and ideally something like Skullcrusher if you're fighting mixed hordes.
umbral granite
11th time today where the chainsword would be perfect if 2 stats were swapped... brunt is teasing me.
And I am out of dockets to spin the brunt lottery...
trim steppe
If you can, get aim to roll for an Mk VII instead some day, if you can to replac...
how's decimator feel on the 7? and what are your perk picks
trim steppe
11th time today where the chainsword would be perfect if 2 stats were swapped......
yeah the number of weapons I've seen where I wish I could just swap 2 stats.... beyond count at this point
feral cave
ty for the advice!
native furnace
Decimator instead of Skullcrusher can absolutely work. it's just about applying a debuff vs another flat increase.
You need Thrust, though.
trim steppe
You need Thrust, though.
I rolled this beast a while ago and haven't gotten around to taking it for a test drive yet
umbral granite
yeah the number of weapons I've seen where I wish I could just swap 2 stats.... ...
Imagine if fat-shark added an NPC that let us 're-tool' a weapon by swapping stat-values arround for diamantine... and it didnt cost a modification slot
because i got diamantine for Days
trim steppe
Imagine if fat-shark added an NPC that let us 're-tool' a weapon by swapping sta...
I have shared the same dream lol. Maybe one day when they are done squeezing this stone
native furnace
I rolled this beast a while ago and haven't gotten around to taking it for a tes...
Perk picks I'd want Flak + Maniac for the purpose of making your single-thrust-charge attack kill a rager without having to come back up (fast special instead of slow), but I have Flak + weakpoint.
trim steppe
because i got diamantine for *Days*
I feel you brother
zealous wyvern
diamonds
native furnace
I rolled this beast a while ago and haven't gotten around to taking it for a tes...
Yours is very, very close to perfect, honestly. Decimator will make you that much crazer on the "faster heavy specials" breakpoints.
The goal is for the initial tap to kill, rather than needing the in + out.
trim steppe
Yours is very, very close to perfect, honestly. Decimator will make you that muc...
does the carapace roll help meet any breakpoints or should I just roll it to Flakiac?
native furnace
If you had Decimator stacked, you miiiiiight get a faster-heavy-breakpoint against a Mauler? You'll be guaranteed to in-and-out a Crusher with it even without Decimator stacked.
umbral granite
I'm just trying to replace this semi-scuffed thing with a better one
native furnace
does the carapace roll help meet any breakpoints or should I just roll it to Fla...
There's a lot going for your current perks, but I'd prooooobably swap Elites to Flak if it were me and test it a bit before dropping Carapace.
trim steppe
There's a lot going for your current perks, but I'd prooooobably swap Elites to ...
Thanks for the input, that's probably what I'll do
native furnace
It's possible that the "best" play is Elites 10% + Flak 25%
trim steppe
I do wish the elites damage mattered more, it ends up being a dead perk on almost every weapon
native furnace
You might be able to decrease the thrust charge time you need to one-shot a lot of mobs with Elites.
Like, you can fast-heavy-special a Rager with 3 charges of thrust (and no maniac and no elites). Maybe with elites and decimator it's 1 or 2 charges instead.
That's a LOT less swing time to kill.
raw steppe
plasma hits a gunner BP with elites; surge hits a shotgunner BP with flak+elites and GG hits a mutant BP with maniac+specialist
native furnace
But like... not to play this down ,I think your shovel is the best roll I've ever seen @trim steppe. We're just quibbling about what'll make it kill a few mobs a little faster, when it's basically capable of universal one-shot-charged-heavy-specials on every mob in the game.
trim steppe
But like... not to play this down ,I think your shovel is the best roll I've eve...
Hah thanks, I was shocked to see it roll like that. And since it's basically perfect I don't want to lock in dumb reroll lol
bitter turtle
I do wish the elites damage mattered more, it ends up being a dead perk on almos...
Elite is optimal on volver
manic vortex
is this good enough and what blessing and perk should i change to?
trim steppe
is this good enough and what blessing and perk should i change to?
shattering to gets hot
manic vortex
how a bout glory hunter and flak armor?
trim steppe
I like gloryhunter on plasma personally, others might suggest changing it to blaze away
junior needle
Yeah shattering to gets hot at the least
agile forge
Shattering has gotta go either way
junior needle
+elites is actually not bad on plasma
agile forge
If you are shooting something with a plasma, it doesn't need armour stripping
junior needle
But what perks it wants is very dependant on your tree and rolls
agile forge
You're gonna kill it either way
junior needle
If you are shooting something with a plasma, it doesn't need armour stripping
Yep, and here's a pic to support that.
Almost everything is positive at every range
manic vortex
in that case flak to carapace because its weakest against it?
trim steppe
in that case flak to carapace because its weakest against it?
it really depends. the plasma gets really close to a lot of breakpoints depending on your build and its damage stat. you take the perks you need to hit hte breakpoints you want
junior needle
So your main focus should be getting one shot headshots on various maniacs and gunners
Except the mutie, don't really need to concern yourself with that one
one shot on lights I should add
tall torrent
is this good enough and what blessing and perk should i change to?
Shattering -> gets hot
Flak upgrade to 25%
bitter turtle
If you can
Download the load out mod and test what perk will meaningfully reduce the number of shots it takes to kill something
If too lazy I agree with flak
tall torrent
Flak gives best consistency
trim steppe
I do like flak on plasma
tall torrent
Maniac needs lots of talent investments for meaningful breakpoints
Carapace only really helps vs crushers
Unyielding doesn’t have meaningful breakpoints but u have better dps
Elite is priority, basically always take
hybrid token
does plasma still have ~the issue~
tall torrent
Visual bug? Yea
hybrid token
manic vortex
hmm okay. Should i remain weapon specialist or go middle tree with plasma?
bitter turtle
hmm okay. Should i remain weapon specialist or go middle tree with plasma?
Personally I like wep specialist
But both are valid
hybrid token
i like the middle, just giving your team a flat 12% damage permanently is kinda cracked
bitter turtle
I'd unironically recommend born leader over for the empruh
Actually decent with ck stacked together
tall torrent
Gloryhunter + CK with born leader basically gives 40 toughness to all 3 teammates with 3 shotgunner 1 shot kills
It is excellent
bitter turtle
Just never take born leader with any other gun
tall torrent
The emperor is trying to tell us smth by making the “one shot everything” playstyle work best for medic vet
tall torrent
Eh, a good portion of it is trickle from CK
Kinda
manic vortex
Gloryhunter + CK with born leader basically gives 40 toughness to all 3 teammate...
sounds fun
junior needle
Worth noting that in general, it is not "very good" by any measure
manic vortex
howa about covering fire?
junior needle
But gets more value from glory hunter
manic vortex
or is 5 meter too little
junior needle
and the naturally riduculous state of plasma
tall torrent
howa about covering fire?
Not great
manic vortex
oh right thats true
junior needle
Unless you spray into crowds surrounding your meleeing teammates
Not a lot of value
white minnow
the 4 vet born leader covering fire meta will reign supreme one day
slow spade
Clearly they need to make covering fire give yellow toughness at 100% UwU
bitter turtle
howa about covering fire?
Bad
slow spade
If only covering fire didn't last like 5 seconds
bitter turtle
If only covering fire applied to yourself and worked on melee kills!
I swear it would be balans
No lie
white minnow
absolutely
serene bough
Covering fire giving some yellow toughness wouldn't be a bad idea actually
white minnow
now here's the million dollar question
agile forge
Give psyker a way to generate it pls
white minnow
if you shoot a burster near a teammate
serene bough
At least you'd be able to tell whether or not it's actually being useful
slow spade
Yes
agile forge
Pop like 20 of it on dome expiry or something
crimson sonnet
How many shots can I miss for the On Target Penance with a shotgun?
crimson sonnet
Awesome.
slow spade
At least you won't miss easily
slender turtle
Slug only challenge
crimson sonnet
Would help if my teammates don't instantly mow down whatever Im trying to jam my shotgun barrel into.
bitter turtle
The obvious solution is to kill your teammates
crimson sonnet
TRUE
paper brook
Do I need Onslaught for Revolver? It seems pointless since it's single fire
Just trying to adjust my build
bitter turtle
Do I need Onslaught for Revolver? It seems pointless since it's single fire
No
Onslaught on revolver sounds like a terrible idea
paper brook
Yeah I thought so to. I might drop it and get weapon specialist as someone here recommended
bitter turtle
Rending over the 100 armor modifier is reduced by 1/4
So unless you don't run handcannon
More rending is probably not worthwhile
white minnow
and only getting 1 stack of brittleness (2.5% rending) onto a target per shot
(beginning on the 2nd consecutive hit to a target because of the repeated hit condition)
junior needle
Even on something like the mg4 las, it's hard to justify onslaught
odd sparrow
onslaught is only for recons and maybe autoguns if you just really hate having carapace dmg on your melee
slow spade
Sadly Onslaught has the problem that Weapon Specialist is pretty meh for the full auto guns
toxic leaf
should i rip pc4 from the left and put it on the right
slow spade
should i rip pc4 from the left and put it on the right
I would
odd sparrow
depends on if the one on left hits the 1 hit shotgunners in 1hit if you change flak to elites
slow spade
And replace Infested damage with something like maniac (fuck ragers and mutants)
Missing 5% weakspot damage from brutal momentum will (hopefully) not matter in the long run
toxic leaf
thats like 2 damage
slow spade
thats like 2 damage
Hadron specifically bricking your psword to be 1 damage off lethal UwU
odd sparrow
it all comes down to whether the one on the left already hits the BP's or not. Bc the only real upside of the one on the right is the extra mobility which can be pretty big
slow spade
he sold me the right lol
Hadron paid off Melk
toxic leaf
one shot on a light swing?
terse idol
No, to both of you. Unless its been patched very recently, the damage bonus is e...
Weiiiird
terse idol
Hold on hold on, I swear I heard it from Mr craime 🥹
Also god damn, you had to hit me with the groovy music
junior needle
Oh yeah, I had something playing in the background
terse idol
hollow ibex
that music was well-timed lol
terse idol
Yeah I thought that was on purpose
junior needle
NOPE
torn needle
should i rip pc4 from the left and put it on the right
Both are decent but the second one is probably better, cycler 3 to 4 and infested to carapace and that might bring you to crusher two shot bp
terse idol
Both are decent but the second one is probably better, cycler 3 to 4 and infeste...
Would you ever keep unyielding?
torn needle
Would you ever keep unyielding?
Definitely
terse idol
I was thinking the left was better but I would yest both
torn needle
Left is fine too but the mobility roll you're gonna feel
You might even lose a Dodge
If you want to use the one on the left I'd do unyield carapace
terse idol
spring spindle
What’s the difference between VI and IV Catachan swords (or whatever the hell the numbers are)
hollow ibex
What’s the difference between VI and IV Catachan swords (or whatever the hell th...
moveset
IV is generally considered the best option
junior needle
VII (7) and IV (4)
left zephyr
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vagrant hornet
How do you pull up that menu
terse idol
How do you pull up that menu
You need to mod it in
main ermine
which blessing i should change and change to ?
left zephyr
How do you pull up that menu
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fierce spoke
which blessing i should change and change to ?
Power Swords feel much better if you have the, Power Cycler, blessing. Gives extra energized hits. Starts at tier 3 blessing level
main ermine
i have cycler 4
fierce spoke
Lmao I just rolled a Mark VI Power Sword with Cycler 2 and Brutal Momentum, just deciding which perks go for.
white minnow
swap supercharge into cycler
wispy mist
What are the good plasma gun blessings?
terse idol
What are the good plasma gun blessings?
Gets hot, Blaze it, Glory Hunter
wispy mist
Thank you
cosmic prairie
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WAIT WE HAVE LEADERBOARDS NOW???
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?
left zephyr
WAIT WE HAVE LEADERBOARDS NOW???
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frank basin
But not use to judge other
hollow ibex
great way to call out the gunlugger ogryn for taking 15 ammo packs
left zephyr
great way to call out the gunlugger ogryn for taking 15 ammo packs
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left zephyr
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frank basin
Ripper user:
hollow ibex
plink plink plink plink
hidden torrent
Do you guys think I played well enough for Auric Maelstrom? (I'm Riddage btw)
hollow ibex
gunlugger ogryns are the recon users of ogryns
crude ermine
Do you guys think I played well enough for Auric Maelstrom? (I'm Riddage btw)
You did sufficable
stiff glacier
Weirdest mission ive had yesterday with 3 shroudfield zealots and my stealth vet
crude ermine
Compared to the other two teammates the answer was already there
stiff glacier
Shit hits the fan everyone vanishes
chrome pumice
Infernus blessing on Hellbore lasguns. Worth investing or naw?
chrome pumice
you had me there
chrome pumice
what about sustained fire?
crude ermine
Nope
chrome pumice
welp shit
stiff glacier
Precision fire
chrome pumice
why the fuck doesnt helbore has the critical hit like the normal lasguns
that shit seems more fitting. the fuck darktide
chrome pumice
weird as shit still
frank basin
Graia brauto beloved
frank basin
What’s distance for “long shot” talent take effect?
fierce spoke
Just started trying auto Columbus Infantry. It's fun so far. Crazy that close range is within 20 meters
hollow ibex
Except the 2 round burst one
don't hate on agri HH 😦
crude ermine
What’s distance for “long shot” talent take effect?
I think it pops up when it activates
On the bottom left
frank basin
I think it pops up when it activates
Hmmmm
crude ermine
I don't want to say 6m but my brain feels that's it, or a lil shorter
stiff glacier
I hate forced burst fire guns in every game other than dirty bomb
frank basin
Is 7 meter i tested for close range
stiff glacier
Only it got them right
crude ermine
Yeah I may or may not suck at distance calculations
frank basin
I’ll take look at it
crude ermine
Never was that good at that kinda math when I tried to be an engineer
timid otter
What’s distance for “long shot” talent take effect?
8m
stiff glacier
Rest in pepperoni fletcher gameplay
frank basin
Alright
timid otter
It then grows until 30m where it stops
fierce spoke
Do grenade kills count as ranged kills for Melk contracts?
frank basin
worth using on my Graia brauto then
crude ermine
Do grenade kills count as ranged kills for Melk contracts?
They should
junior needle
Just started trying auto Columbus Infantry. It's fun so far. Crazy that close ra...
Close range is technically 7m~, as that's the distance to activate various things like ff and ds. However "close range damage" now functions like anoint in blood in at least 2 instances (dumdum and the vet ult talent).
fierce spoke
Close range is technically 7m~, as that's the distance to activate various thing...
Word. Dumdum and Fire Frenzy is what I have rolled on my Columnus Auto. Fun times
paper brook
I've been seeing a lot more people running the Revolver lately
The Zarona virus is spreading
paper brook
Is Weapons specialist good when used with the Zarona?
junior needle
Yes, although you adjust the build a bit
It's very good
The adjustment is taking crucian instead of surgical and the reload talent, so you get the full benefit of crucian on every shot
paper brook
Yes, although you adjust the build a bit
What type of adjustments?
paper brook
The adjustment is taking crucian instead of surgical and the reload talent, so y...
which reload talent? fully loaded? or volley adept?
muted knot
You don't really want to run too much reload on wep spec
Cause reloading resets your crucian
junior needle
which reload talent? fully loaded? or volley adept?
Only this one
Its attached to ws
junior needle
Go down to zero, kill something in melee, go to range and get 1 boolet, kill something, repeat
Not sure if you even need deadshot between ws and crucian and the natural revolver crit
thick flint
what are those purple looking things at the bottom?
junior needle
Nodes for keystones
paper brook
Not sure if you even need deadshot between ws and crucian and the natural revolv...
so this is the build I have so far, any suggestions to make it optimal?
junior needle
You may not need rending strikes if you have handcannon
You can shift that point to precision strikes or the suppression talent, which will help you actually hit gunners when being suppressed
Don't recommend taking both the revive and overshield for voc
Overshield alone is extremely strong, and maximizing uptime on it will keep your team from going down in the first place
white minnow
so this is the build I have so far, any suggestions to make it optimal?
i'm not a fan of skirmisher
i'd path through trench fighter instead
junior needle
Yeah trench feels great for melee, much more than you'd expect from a 10% difference
paper brook
i'm not a fan of skirmisher
i'd path through trench fighter instead
Yeah that's what I ended up doing, skirmisher didn't really seem like that great of a talent in practicality
I got lucky and was able to find a Zarona in the Melk shop with Crucian IV on it so I farmed it off of it
shadow dagger
mission drops go crazy i guess
muted knot
Kinda scuffed tbh
shadow dagger
flak maniac as always i assume
muted knot
Yeah
junior needle
I'd recommend dumdum over one of the blessings and then replace a perk for flak for maximum performance
terse idol
so this is the build I have so far, any suggestions to make it optimal?
gosh daarn your game is very saturated
austere pine
i've done it bros
junior needle
gosh daarn your game is very saturated
I assume it's flux for eye strain
I used it before
shadow dagger
do i need multiple sniper resists to not eat shit the moment i fumble a dodge or should one still be fine as long as i have some toughness damage resist going on
junior needle
Not sure if you can even get enough res/toughness to tank sniper shots anymore on vet
But overshield can actually tank it
Because yellow toughness is just that gud
Also snipers have the unique attribute of doing full damage to your health if any of the initial damage penetrates your toughness
So you have to tank the whole hit to avoid health damage
shadow dagger
worth buying a chainsword from melk just to rip t4 bloodthirsty or nah
oh thats fun
muted knot
worth buying a chainsword from melk just to rip t4 bloodthirsty or nah
Ehhhh
slate hawk
I personally run 2 toughness 3 stamina
With cool down reduction block cost reduction and stamina regeneration
On all 3
paper brook
I assume it's flux for eye strain
Nah it's because the picture is in HDR since I have HDR in the game (using Special K) but it doesn't translate well in a standard picture format
tall torrent
So you have to tank the whole hit to avoid health damage
Does ghost (blessing) activate reciprocity rn
The steam guide says ghost, hit & run and stripped down can activate reciprocity
ebon prism
My krieg is doing pretty well with that
blissful flame
accidentally shoots a burster near a squadmate, hurting them badly. Feels bad and tries to help with a med injector to heal the damage. Forget which button to use, and use it on self to heal 2 damage, while staring them down. Whoops.
junior needle
Does ghost (blessing) activate reciprocity rn
It does but in a very fucky way, only regular shooters will activate it and only near the start of the proc.
slate hawk
Shovel time :3
near sable
yeah we only accept horribly unreliable crit chance in this imperium
tall torrent
It does but in a very fucky way, only regular shooters will activate it and only...
gunners & reapers can't?
hm
weird
I was thinking of running it for laspistol
junior needle
gunners & reapers can't?
Someone elses video
gunners/reapers can do dnd for whatever reason but not reciprocity
Your mileage will vary with stripped/hitnrun as I haven't tested either'
untold mulch
_accidentally shoots a burster near a squadmate, hurting them badly. Feels bad a...
Flexed on the mf
sharp ember
blissful flame
https://i.imgur.com/xCOBefT.png is the infantry graia any good? this seems like a good roll to try for something
sharp ember
https://i.imgur.com/xCOBefT.png is the infantry graia any good? this seems like ...
amazing roll, the weapon itself can do well but is outshined by its siblings
it has relatively gentle recoil per shot, the way it feels to me
blissful flame
i've got a decent heavy one, but havne't ever gotten a good roll on a light infantry yet
i hear people are going nuts over the light infantry autogun. does it have a super high crit rate or something?
agile forge
i hear people are going nuts over the light infantry autogun. does it have a sup...
The Columnus?
blissful flame
yes, it's 4am and my words are leaving me lol
agile forge
It's just got very favourable numbers, it's a powerhouse (crit is part of that)
I think it has the wrong damage stat
Like does as much damage as a Graia per shot, but it shoots faster
Try it if you can make one before it gets nerfed, feels super nice to use
pearl granite
melk trust me a bit too much this week
agile forge
Also very predictable recoil, idk how it compares with other IAGs since it's the only one I ever used
blissful flame
hrm, i guess those blessings are workable?
pearl granite
I personally love raking fire on my columnus iag
blissful flame
i gotta keep the blessings, cause the perks are straight trash lol
pearl granite
although it rarely get the chance to work...
blissful flame
come to think of it, this is my first 550 ever, i think lol
pearl granite
would be awesome if it had dumdum 4 somewhere
pearl granite
look kinda nice? 🤔
also, i'm thinking about using shotgun for fun. some tip about which gun, perk and blessing I need pls?
muted knot
https://i.imgur.com/Ft06xTq.png
Oof, should have kept +2 stam and changed FF to dumdum imo
(+2stam for Deadshot)
muted knot
also, i'm thinking about using shotgun for fun. some tip about which gun, perk a...
The agri is fun imo
blissful flame
Oof, should have kept +2 stam and changed FF to dumdum imo
ah well, too late now
pearl granite
can always make another one 
blissful flame
i guess deadshot got changed sicne i last played before the rework. back then, as far as i coudl tell, extra stamina on deadshot was actually detrimental
because it seemed to me the cost was percentage based of total stamina
muted knot
i guess deadshot got changed sicne i last played before the rework. back then, a...
No it definitely helps now
muted knot
ah well, too late now
Don't get me wrong this one looks good
I just don't really like raking fire
blissful flame
neither do i to be honest, i jsut thought stamina was useless lol
i'm re-learning
white minnow
yeah the cost is flat now instead of percentage
muted knot
It is mostly
Deadshot is the only thing I can think of that really works with stamina
pearl granite
deadshot being percentage was one of the stupidest thing ever
muted knot
You get pretty dumb crits with the IAG with deadshot
The redditor had some actual breakdown of Deadshot iags
blissful flame
remind me what an IAG means? i haven't heard that acronym before
muted knot
Infantry Auto gun
blissful flame
ahh, okay
blissful flame
my current vet build is more of a silly toughness share build
eating a smack to the face on malice only does like 12 damage
dire olive
Well. It's malice
sick marsh
melk trust me a bit too much this week
Melk hates you more like...
blissful flame
i've got no regrets rerolling book weeklies
muted knot
i've got no regrets rerolling book weeklies
Book and missions without player deaths
dire olive
I swear books are bugged or something because it never tracks for me
icy rampart
how on earth do you do long bomb
agile forge
Throw bomb very far
I got mine on enclavum baross finale
just keep trying long throws and hope it works at some point
or try throwing one directly upwards in an outdoors map when you have a horde on you
I hear that works too
icy rampart
does quick clicking reduce the fuse
tiny summit
I did mine at the start before you drop down on hab dreyko
spice wadi
I did mine on hab dreyko drop down, quick throw aimed at the sky
tbh just randomly throwing one at the ceiling in large rooms will eventually get you it
sharp ember
does quick clicking reduce the fuse
quick clicking is the way to go, long throwing makes the fuse like 5 seconds mid-air
quick is closer to 3
good chance of getting it when you measure the explosion distance and look for spots where a horde will drop off a ledge
icy rampart
which maps are best?
gusty bison
Any long bridge
icy rampart
I see around 25-30m for the quick click
if they die to bleed that counts right
got it lessssgooo
sonic marlin
melk trust me a bit too much this week
easy stuff
icy rampart
is there a guide to what power, finesse, rending etc are
pearl granite
i'm scrub tho 😦
bitter turtle
is there a guide to what power, finesse, rending etc are
Inspect the gear and it will tell you
Power is dmg
Finesse is weakspot/crit damage and sometimes attackspeed
Rending adds to your armor modifier
pearl granite
is there a guide to what power, finesse, rending etc are
or you just need to guess blindly, the way fatshark intended
bitter turtle
So if you do 50% damage to carapace
20 rending makes it 70% instead
Any rending above 100 percent is reduced in effectiveness by a quarter
So 20 rending at 100 armor modifier is 105% damage only
Also rending only affects flak/carapace/unyielding/maniac
sonic marlin
there goes my first attempt at auric maelstrom
slow spade
Judging from plasteel you got decently far in at least
Looks like just an unfortunate run :c
agile forge
20 rending makes it 70% instead
Wait really? I thought it was proportionate
That's even stronger than I thought
slow spade
Yeah rending is highly desired for most weapons
Part of why crits are so good
Because it gives rending + damage
indigo hill
Any good builds for veteran people recommend for end game to look for?
slow spade
Any good builds for veteran people recommend for end game to look for?
For endgame, plasma + power sword is a very reliable build
hollow ibex
ultimate meta slave build
slow spade
VoC + Survivalist + Ping Keystone + Shredder Nades to help guide your fit
slow spade
ultimate meta slave build
Sorry losing is boring 💅💅💅
slow spade
"Good build"
crude fiber
just pray for all your braced auto shots land
slow spade
That's the key word
umbral scaffold
there is one universe where is worth picking up weapons specialist over focus target? i see a lot of ppl doing build with the former but i missing the point where it can be more useful 
slow spade
there is one universe where is worth picking up weapons specialist over focus ta...
Weapon Specialist is better if your team sucks
Focus Target is better if your team doesn't suck
For more details, it depends on weapon
crude fiber
shredder auto pistol and tac ax with smokes for off meta build
slow spade
Weapon Specialist + Revolver is really due to Handcannon needing crits
agile forge
there is one universe where is worth picking up weapons specialist over focus ta...
Revolver
Reload 1 bullet every time you swap and kill with melee iirc
slow spade
While other builds like Columbus can't really use Weapon Specialists that well
crude fiber
weapon specialist is mostly useful for melee weapons unless you have a revolver/plasma gun for guaranteed crits
umbral scaffold
Weapon Specialist is better if your team sucks
i disagree, when my team sucks arses i want to be as far as possible from histerical zaelots charging blindly in melee
wary galleon
had the most awful match.. in terms of difficulty not toxic team was awsome but we died SO MANY TIMES.
one stealth zealot had to revive like 14 times
umbral scaffold
Revolver
yep that's good.....but not as good as damage on demand on the same revolver imo
slow spade
i disagree, when my team sucks arses i want to be as far as possible from hister...
Hence why Weapon Specialist is better when your team sucks
sonic marlin
i feel like i wanna play normal damnation forever cuz i always have control over the game and know i won't lose
slow spade
Because Focus Target dramatically gets worse when you're not in coherency/teammates aren't shooting pings
sonic marlin
slow spade
There's really no reason to go beyond Damnation except for dockets
If you're still in the grind phase, just do quickplay standards or Aurics if Brunt is fucking you
sonic marlin
well isn't it more about 'i'm stronger so why play lower difficulty and not auric'
slow spade
If you're at that point, just do whatever is most fun
hollow ibex
i play auric most of the time for dockets
slow spade
I sometimes do Heresy just to mess around
agile forge
It is about the masochistic joy
slow spade
Same
agile forge
Funnily enough the word masochistic is derived from is filtered on this server lol
rain badger
when you cant carry hard enough 
slow spade
I do maelstroms with +30% dockets lol
umbral scaffold
Because Focus Target dramatically gets worse when you're not in coherency/teamma...
doesn't have any coherency req....u mean the bonuses to it?
agile forge
Plasteel is nice but the real payment I want is pain
slow spade
doesn't have any coherency req....u mean the bonuses to it?
Yes?
Focus Target is ass if you don't get the team buffs
Changes a 4% damage minimum into a 16% team-damage minimum 😩
I see extra barrels maelstrom
I load up
agile forge
I am going to put execution stance on my CIAG vet that is already doing Deadshot MF. Am I stupid?
umbral scaffold
Focus Target is ass if you don't get the team buffs
it's just +20% flat damage, isn't that bad....problem with weapon specialist is if if u have a tard zealot meleeing your intended target or an ogryn in front of your ads before moving to next melee you are screwed
agile forge
I want to make my CIAG feel like it does on my Psyker
hollow ibex
would be a meme build
slow spade
it's just +20% flat damage, isn't that bad....problem with weapon specialist is ...
"Is a potential team-wide buff of 20% bad?" Bruh nevermind I got you now. Still though you have to remember the buff has to be coherency and bad teammates likely aren't
And no because if they were bad. They would likely be dead or doing shit damage
Having the issue of not enough targets that you will overlap is rare enough anyways in maelstrom
outer wolf
Are decimator and skullcrusher good blessings for the shovel?
slow spade
I personally use Decimator and think its good but I get that's hard to make consistent :c
Idk what skullcrusher is
umbral scaffold
Having the issue of not enough targets that you will overlap is rare enough anyw...
ok now makes sense....i saw myself WS works as intended in the middle of an horde (as u say when you haven't the issue of having enough targets)
i was missing the picture of endgame content😂
slow spade
Yeah I figured "endgame" would be for maelstrom
Where the poxwalkers are replaced with trappers and ragers UwU
umbral scaffold
anyway if 'bad teammates' was only them not being in coherency....usually that means they don't even takes cover under heavy fire🤣 
slow spade
The bar for player skill in Darktide is so low that knowing how to block and dodge is considered good
umbral scaffold
The bar for player skill in Darktide is so low that knowing how to block and dod...
frigging true
slow spade
Yeah, seems good to me. I hear some players don't like maniac damage as its only good vs dreg ragers + mutants
But it should be fine imo
icy rampart
how do you deal with carapace if you use a lasgun?
slow spade
I hear Unarmored is good too due to a lot of exposed heads on trash hordes
slow spade
how do you deal with carapace if you use a lasgun?
Krak grenade or power sword
If you don't use either, run faster than your team
icy rampart
what's the interaction between rending and carapace, and finesse and carapace
slow spade
what's the interaction between rending and carapace, and finesse and carapace
For the purposes of lasguns that aren't Helbore, rending basically gives damage = to the rending amount
So +10% rending is +10% damage for most lasguns
Finesse is weakspot damage which is alright but you want crits
icy rampart
For the purposes of lasguns that aren't Helbore, rending basically gives damage ...
how does this change with helbore?
slow spade
But the reason you want crits is because crits have their own rending
So crits + rending talents CAN allow you to kill crushers with a normal lasgun
slow spade
how does this change with helbore?
Helbore charged shots have super high armor pen
Rending is largely unneeded for carapace on the helbore
wary galleon
BEHOLD THE POWER OF BRAUTOGUN AND SHEER WILLPOWER
sonic marlin
isn't that the worst one?
wary galleon
ye
sonic marlin
my only reason to use it would be for the bayonet
slow spade
Lol ok
sonic marlin
i mean if the bayonet is bad then isn't there better dps weapon?
wary galleon
wait til he discovers what a trigger is
slow spade
Ikr
wary galleon
slow spade
Helbore's dps is "bad" but that's like saying revolver dps is bad
It will 1-2 shot kill anything not a boss.
However shocktrooper means it basically never needs ammo and it rarely reloads
slate hawk
The milk isn't sour today! Though the first target kinda sucks
icy rampart
as far as I can see, lasguns take major Ls compared to autoguns on DPS, but are more ammo efficient
sonic marlin
However shocktrooper means it basically never needs ammo and it rarely reloads
i was told it has a cooldown now is it true?
slow spade
Indeed
icy rampart
is that fair or am I missing something
slow spade
i was told it has a cooldown now is it true?
Yes but the cd is like 0.2 seconds
So helbore doesn't care
sonic marlin
ah
tiny summit
I see 126 for a fully charged crit helbore
I definitely hit harder than that with my mk2
sonic marlin
pay up
wary galleon
as far as I can see, lasguns take major Ls compared to autoguns on DPS, but are ...
lasguns are most ammo efficent lol
slow spade
as far as I can see, lasguns take major Ls compared to autoguns on DPS, but are ...
Actually lasgun dps can be comparable to autoguns but its more skill based. Because you NEED weakspot hits
wary galleon
with right talents you cant deplete your reserve
wary galleon
nah man they are powerful enough as it is
the reconlas is whats hurting the most rn
icy rampart
my weakspot rate is pretty good
slow spade
nah man they are powerful enough as it is
? I'm just saying what you need to make the most of them
icy rampart
payday 2 type beat
slow spade
Lasguns need weakspot hits for Headtaker + Deadly Accurate
tiny summit
If you aren't popping heads constantly with Las might as well use autoguns.
slow spade
Autoguns need crits to abuse their crit chain
tiny summit
I prefer ghost over deadly accurate now
wary galleon
? I'm just saying what you need to make the most of them
depends on the group imo. braced dont need crit at all
slow spade
I prefer ghost over deadly accurate now
If you're going for dps, it doesn't hurt
slow spade
Lol
wary galleon
wait.. ALL of them?
icy rampart
just the long bomb one
slow spade
depends on the group imo. braced dont need crit at all
? it helps a fuckton lol crits give rending and they have a large crit chain
tiny summit
If you're going for dps, it doesn't hurt
It doesn't hurt but eh. We do absurd dmg already
slow spade
Iirc you can get like 33% crit change with Deadshot
wary galleon
? it helps a fuckton lol crits give rending and they have a large crit chain
no crits here
icy rampart
I unlocked it but i got error coded out of that mission, but it was unlocked all fine when I was on the mourningstar
then I relaunched the game
no longbomb
wary galleon
Then you can just do better then
idk i was holding down lmb and that was pretty much it.
gun go brrr
slow spade
Actually base crit for brauto is -2% lol
wary galleon
who cares when you got the ammo capacity of a small nation
slow spade
idk i was holding down lmb and that was pretty much it.
Yeah but crit means you'll hit even harder + rending to get past flak better
slow spade
who cares when you got the ammo capacity of a small nation
Sorry I like my guns doing the best they can lol 💅💅💅
wary galleon
infantry gun sure. but its not critical to use. but a good build will around those is the better choice.
braced? its a rambo gun, you just shoot like rambo and scream into VC mic. Good times
wary galleon
show me your gun then
instead of being a passive aggressive gremlin
show me how a braced autogun should be build
slow spade
Brb
icy rampart
I unlocked it but i got error coded out of that mission, but it was unlocked all...
so what do
wary galleon
so what do
hard to say.
I never experienced such a thing, and unfortuantely dont know what todo really. maybe contact FS 🤷♂️
slow spade
Anyways
Crits are good lol
Don't ignore higher damage and rending
Damage dropoff affects your armor pen
gusty bison
how do you deal with carapace if you use a lasgun?
Shovel
gusty bison
Autoguns need crits
Its the same thing though
Crit and weakspot both go off of finesse
So headshotting with an autogun also gets u high dps
wary galleon
😂 wheres the crit build? this is just a standard brautogun
gusty bison
😂 wheres the crit build? this is just a standard brautogun
Oh braced auto doesnt want crits
It has garbage finesse
Like worst in game
gusty bison
Ahh
wary galleon
bitter turtle
Actually lasgun dps can be comparable to autoguns but its more skill based. Beca...
Are you ignoring HH autoguns? You literally need headshots for 7 and agri
Might as well play something else if you're pumping bodyshots into maniac with the v7
gusty bison
Lasguns also have worse headshot multipliers than most autoguns
wary galleon
i should use head hunters some more. but i love mowing down hordes too much 😔
untold mulch
as far as I can see, lasguns take major Ls compared to autoguns on DPS, but are ...
And honestly you must be a fool to run out of ammo on autoguns, so its a moot point
Lasgun needs love
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