veteran-class

[steep pier]

i got all the white skins on vt2

[timid otter]

Vermintide is extremely frustrating as a low level or with low levels.

[dire lagoon]

Does console version have aim assist?

[steep pier]

all the chaos waste outfits

[native hamlet]

progression does suck for both games

[steep pier]

idk

i never noticed

[rigid whale]

progression is fine in darktide imo, i dont like how in vermintide you only get a new talent every 5 levels

[steep pier]

getting purified skin monster spawns sucks in vt2

[rigid whale]

makes leveling up feel so, so, so slow and inconsequential

[rigid pilot]

It was like that in darktide for a year

[dire lagoon]

It does but I found vermintide to be much smoother once you get max level and start consistently rolling legendary missions.

[steep pier]

it was yes

i remember that

[native hamlet]

yeah

[rigid whale]

yeah i didn't play during that time and i'm glad

[rigid pilot]

We are cringe

[steep pier]

and we didn't have skill trees like we got now

[native hamlet]

better here once you get luck on your side to get good rng

[thick wolf]

leveling up anyone who isn't over level 20 or 25 sucks so much in this game oml

I got worse randoms as Ogryn as a result

[steep pier]

lmao

[rigid pilot]

That's just normal ain't it

[steep pier]

i didn't like leveling ogryn up

[native hamlet]

i appreciate the cocky lvl 14 trying to go on heresy

[timid otter]

Ye well its worse in vermintide

[tiny summit]

I didn't play enough Vermintide to care because I didn't like being locked out of what I wanted to play in Quickplay

[rigid pilot]

Game has a huge skill ceiling and floor

[native hamlet]

lvl 1 on auric maelstrom 🙏

[steep pier]

on pc

you can get mods

to matchmake with it not finding lobbies with who you have selected

[native hamlet]

leveling psyker was a snoozefest

[rigid whale]

yeah i cannot force myself to progress thru vermintide 2, i'd probably enjoy the game a lot more if i already had lvl 35 on every class

[steep pier]

i do

its just 5 classes

[rigid whale]

tbf psyker has the worst tree

[tiny summit]

Lvl 14 heresy ogryn is easy

[steep pier]

the real pain was grinding through chaos waste

[soft blade]

i don’t think i ever leveled kerillian in that game

[dire lagoon]

One thing I found on vermintide was I ended up friending so many players I met in quick match and almost always had a premade or mostly premade to plau with.. some of those people I still talk to and play other games with.

[steep pier]

for over a thousand hours

[dire lagoon]

In darktide that has never happened once.

[steep pier]

to get every purified skin in the damn game

[soft blade]

although i did play her more when i got shade

[steep pier]

white shade is nice

[rigid whale]

i have around 140 hours in darktide rn and 40 in vt2 though notably

[native hamlet]

i leveled them all up based off of interest. good ole sienna was finally lvl 30 when i was like 1k hours in lol

[neat stratus]

I think level progression would be a lot better if it were faster, the only percieveable point of it is to get you used to how your talents and skills work

[soft blade]

i was a merc/WHC player all the way

[steep pier]

i did all the classes on pc before skill trees

[soft blade]

occasionally foot knight

[native hamlet]

i was a good boss killer

[steep pier]

now that we got skill trees

[native hamlet]

bounty hunter and huntsman was my bread and butter

[steep pier]

its much more bearable to lvl

[native hamlet]

did a bit of foot knight if i felt like protecting my team

shade if i wanted unga bunga dmg

[steep pier]

i love shade

as i played

[native hamlet]

shade was alright

[timid otter]

Going from 1 to 30 in darktide should be about 5 hours of gameplay with any semblance of optimization.

[steep pier]

corpses can't hurt the team

[dire lagoon]

I liked the holy warrior with the huge 2h sword the most (forget all the names now)

[steep pier]

i'd be clearing hordes with dual daggers

grail knight

[native hamlet]

grail knight

[neat stratus]

Personally I preferred playing things like Grail Knight, having goals to achieve mid match makes it a little more engaging

[steep pier]

my worst class was bounty hunter

[soft blade]

i bought the Knight of the Blazing Sun cosmetic for Kruber and that was some well spent money lemme tell ya

[native hamlet]

i was great at aiming so i made great use

sad that they nerfed bounty hunter by fixing its bug

[rigid whale]

the DLC system is also part of why i don't have a lot of time in vt2, i don't like just how much money i'd have to spend to own the full game

[steep pier]

lol

[tiny summit]

I started playing with the class update. I think the leveling experience is quite pleasant with the skill tree. If you stay on a curve with difficulty and levels you basically average 1.5 levels per match. Get a Emperor Gift, brunt shop rotates like every 2 matches. So every after every match, you get a skill point, possible new weapon to try, and brunt has offerings.

[native hamlet]

no more 80% doubleshotted ult

[steep pier]

i have my own bug as huntsman

i run around

[rigid whale]

i know people hate darktide's MTX (for good reason) but i'll take a shitty cosmetic shop over VT2's monetization lol

[steep pier]

with 500 bullets with repeater

who needs to aim

[bitter turtle]

man

[dire lagoon]

Yes! The combo with the 2j sword was like H1 L1 -> block cancel -> repeat. There was another heavy combo for elites.. so fun.

[neat stratus]

The Bretonnian Longsword was by far my favorite weapon, being able to block and charge attack at the same time, while feeling supremely flashy on top of that

[bitter turtle]

why do ppl bring knife to no ammo pickup scab only lol

that's like the one place i wouldnt bring knife lul

[steep pier]

i brought shovel and recon

as vet

[rigid whale]

knife on what class

[steep pier]

and didn't need my gun

[bitter turtle]

they were zealot

idc tho

[steep pier]

zel is good with knife

[tiny summit]

For the challenge and the deranged

[bitter turtle]

i literally did more elite kills than both combined

lol

[steep pier]

especially stealth zel

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/d969a1146eae47d244e54fbca6620b7e.png

[rigid whale]

i guess it makes sense considering knives have rending on backstab and the scab only maelstrom missions have approximately 15 billion crushers

[steep pier]

thats why im not on pc

[rigid whale]

but still

[dire lagoon]

Elf with the rapid fire quick bow was super fun too.

[steep pier]

i don't need the mods

[neat stratus]

Shield and Flail was just insane though on Warrior Priest, your main combo consists of charge attacks that block during windup

[bitter turtle]

they werent bad

but man

the knife just does not kill fast

lol

[junior needle]

The mods are great

[steep pier]

depends on build

[bitter turtle]

when u have like a gorillion mauler and crusher as your target

[steep pier]

i kill the crushers

[tiny summit]

I don't mind knife zealots. I mind the kind of person that is usually attracted to play knife zealot

[steep pier]

with shovel

[neat stratus]

You mean Kerillian Waystalker players?

[native hamlet]

context here is scab only faction by the way

[bitter turtle]

idc what people usually bring but it just felt bad to see them doing so much less dmg

[neat stratus]

Those types at least

[bitter turtle]

they werent bad players so if they brought anything else they prob could have saved the run

lol

[steep pier]

shovel on vet is great

[native hamlet]

yeah lmao

[neat stratus]

You know the overconfident people that actually barely do anything the more they brag about it

[bitter turtle]

i got trapped behind a wall of crushers in a corner and they couldnt kill them fast enough to save me and then went down after

[neat stratus]

And then they leave the second they get downed once

[native hamlet]

mayflies

i need help

[steep pier]

i lost a run today

[native hamlet]

save me from the pale queen

[steep pier]

but got my 25000 pox walkers from the run

was a good loss

[rigid whale]

i've been using the standard issue shovel on vet, surprisingly fun

tho i feel like i'd be getting more done with the other two shovel variants

[steep pier]

the spike shovel is fun

its better for big targets

[native hamlet]

that's how i felt with ogyrn

[steep pier]

but regular is better for cc

[native hamlet]

i don't mind the cc lose so i rock n roll with it

[steep pier]

i should try shovel gryn

right now im running bull butcher

[native hamlet]

can one shot crushers

[steep pier]

lol

sounds nice

[native hamlet]

slap on a nice brutal momentum to kill like 4

[steep pier]

damn

i got thrust 4 on my knife

and was sad

[native hamlet]

not absurd boss damage like thunder hammer though

[steep pier]

i'd rather that on a shovel

[native hamlet]

but good anti elite

[steep pier]

nearly bedtime

im glad i don't work tomorrow

see y'all tomorrow

ima do shovel gryn

[neat stratus]

Reminder that you arent safe from this abomination

[vernal harbor]

the sweaty zealot bobbing and weaving with his knife at hordes while I calmly smack the power sword to turn it on and just left right is always sad to see, I really want to use knife but it’s a lot of work for less half the dam time

[soft blade]

i never really drank the knife koolaid on zealot or vet tbh

[neat stratus]

Anyways what do yall reckon, worthy of the trials of hadron?

[dire lagoon]

I personally can't stand the burst fire weapons

[soft blade]

same

[dire lagoon]

But other than that the stats look prime for hadron

[soft blade]

i like the semi HH guns though

my favorite brand of auto gun

[neat stratus]

I may as well try it out, Ive got a good Vraks headhunter

This would probably be amazing with Dum Dum, does it have that as a blessing?

Yeah, kinda like the Vraks more since it shoots weirdly hard

[thick wolf]

is it also normal to dress your guy differently depending on builds

[soft blade]

idk

[neat stratus]

Learned that I like the Zarona revolver at least so thats cool

[soft blade]

i usually just run the same cosmetics until i get bored of them

then rinse repeat

[neat stratus]

Thing hits like a truck

[soft blade]

Zarona is swagular

[elder python]

Do you guys believe that the Braced Autogun MUST have this perk?

[tall torrent]

No

[elder python]

I got some options
I Def say that having no extra flak dmg feels bad

[idle carbon]

do people think weapon specialist fine for the most part, except for the fact it doesn't work nicely with rapid-fire weapons? since the crit bonus only applies to the first shot? what about the keystone modifiers?

[frank basin]

Close range like 7 meter away

[scarlet smelt]

I'm on my hands and knees rn

[tall torrent]

Which rapid fire weapon exactly

[scarlet smelt]

I quickmatched into a fucking damnation HiShock

[frank basin]

Mmmm that’s be why death so many time

[idle carbon]

pretty much anything that isn't semi-automatic or doesn't do high damage in a single shot
since your +330% crit mod at 10 stacks only applies on the first shot

[scarlet smelt]

It was mine and the ogryn's first damn hishock too

[tidal rapids]

Melk, where the hell did you get this?

[tall torrent]

If you’re running Columnus, u can play any keystone, but left/middle seem more optimal

[frank basin]

I tried Histg on pub damnation: it didn’t go well by chances

[tall torrent]

Weapon specialist is usually to make your melee extra good

[idle carbon]

I'm just wondering what people's thoughts are is all

[tall torrent]

The gun portion is less important cuz if you’re spending into weapon specialist chances are you’re not grabbing as many +dmg talents on left & middle

[neat stratus]

Nice cleaver

[tall torrent]

WS works well with basically every melee but extra well on low dodge weapons like power sword

[near shore]

alright lads, play while drunk or nah?

[idle carbon]

if you could, would you change the main keystone or any of the keystone modifiers talents?

[tall torrent]

I think it’s fine as is

[near shore]

personally i think WS is fine as is, maybe a little buff and bug fixed

[tall torrent]

It’s a melee centric keystone

It doesn’t need buffs

[near shore]

its a tad buggy

for my shotgun, its shells reloaded at 10 stacks can be....funky

[idle carbon]

it reloads a % of your missing ammo, or always one

[near shore]

the marksman keystone could use a buff

[idle carbon]

ya I have an idea in mind to change marksman

[near shore]

3.3% per stack, but ive watched it give 1-4 on ful stacks

its just at tad buggy

like i might get 5 shells auto loaded but i watch it go down to 4

[idle carbon]

3.3% per stack of your empty mag

[near shore]

nah not exactly

[tall torrent]

Missing ammo, not total ammo

[near shore]

doesnt have to be empty

though it was mag size based?

ive seen it mess up and just remove a shell

[idle carbon]

it's based on how much of your mag is empty or missing

not total mag size

[near shore]

huh

wack

[idle carbon]

it says it right in the desc

[near shore]

listen

im leaglly blind in my right eye, cut me some slack ;-;

[idle carbon]

I've never seen it just straight remove a shell though

[near shore]

ive had it happen a good few times

im guessing if its based on ammo missing, in a 13 rounf mag the number gets confused

its not something major, just kinda mild anoyyance

i think if they fixed it, then WS is fine as is

tho i want a "when full stacks mark 3 random targets" for the marking keystone

[idle carbon]

all it cares about is how many shots are missing from the mag, it ignores mag capacity
if your gun is missing 30 shots and you proc WS at 10 stacks, you get 10 shots back
if the same is at 12 missing shots, you get 4 back
IIRC it rounds down, because if you have the same with 5 missing shots, you only get 1 shot back

[near shore]

its a bit....weird but works overall

[idle carbon]

it's basically there to suck off the zarona revolver lol

[near shore]

now, u can actually get 1 stack and swap and get 1 shell lol

nah, agri shotgun is great for it

[idle carbon]

yup, it rounds down, but always gives at least one round back

[near shore]

i dont use it on revlover, since if im using it, its to 1 shot crushers

fuck im so drunk XD

[umbral scaffold]

gunners: i lay down suppressing fire to pin down the enemy

snipers: i am highly accurate dealing massive amounts of damage

poxbursters:

[near shore]

heh

u know, i didnt think deadspace 3 was bad

like, i get the beef for sure, so dif from the other 2

[umbral scaffold]

its not but they removed stagger so it feels really hard for no reason sometimes

[near shore]

i played them, and i feel like it misses some tension

[umbral scaffold]

im currently near the end of dead space 2 on zealot difficulty and honestly there are some parts in dead space 3 that are artificially difficult

[near shore]

ya, that sucks

[umbral scaffold]

shots in the first 2 games staggered enemies

[near shore]

i tell you what tho, i want to play the deadspace 1 remake someday

the detail is just amazong

[thorn lark]

deadspace 3 is not bad but it is really not on the same lvl than ds 1 or 2

[near shore]

i agree

[thorn lark]

i am glad i played the trilogy

and i enjoyed it

[near shore]

compared, its "bad" but as just a game, i liked it

[vernal harbor]

this is what i always mean when i said the 12 is amazing if you dont miss

[umbral scaffold]

i dont really want remakes of the next two games, i just want a dead space 4 since it ended on a cliffhanger

[thorn lark]

i played the first one like i was a predator

with the plasma cutter

[near shore]

no? i thought they did mazing on dead space remake

[umbral scaffold]

sure but i want to continue the story not do the same stories ive already played through

[thorn lark]

walking slowly and dismembering everything

[umbral scaffold]

oh wait im a darktide gamer

ignore the irony of that sentiment

[near shore]

while i agree, they did add new story to conect comics and shows better

and im fine with that, graphics are great, but gamplay is more inmportant, hell.....lethal company shows that

[neat stratus]

God DAMN this revolver goes hard now

[near shore]

lmao hell ya, it 1 shots crushers

[neat stratus]

Im out here slingin the big iron killing more specials than I've ever been capable of, and with a GRAY version of it

[near shore]

yeppp

now add rending and surgical

then its a real mosnter

[neat stratus]

Literally killing more elites and specials than the rest of my team combined because I can draw fast enough to hit them all first

[near shore]

yep

its great, i like the revolver because its also skill based in some ways

[neat stratus]

I think I just found the best roll possible aside from the perk

[near shore]

sexy roll

[neat stratus]

I've never found a weapon easier, but I guess having the ocd to reload whenever I can squeeze it in is good

[near shore]

well, i say that because you need to know when to shoot, when to reload and hit heads

[neat stratus]

HOLY CRAP LMAO

It can be done

[near shore]

fuck yes

[neat stratus]

Also thats insanely good but with how I use this thing, it might not even be a massive buff

I like to draw the weapon and within the first couple frames I fire this thing, still probably a solid 10% increased chance though

[near shore]

look at this

[bitter turtle]

combine it with deadshot

[neat stratus]

Thing hits like a goddamn tank

[neat stratus]

Already am

[near shore]

i agree, and use it. but dont feel its mandatory

[neat stratus]

Thats a solid near 50% crit chance just for aiming it for a split second

[near shore]

unless all armor no ammo

[bitter turtle]

it edepends on how much you hate crusher

[near shore]

then please, take dead shot

[bitter turtle]

you are guaranteed a crit always no matter what

with weap specialist

so

[neat stratus]

Personally I like to nuke enemies, but I see no use in doing so to a crusher

[near shore]

ya, its why its my "all armor, no pick ups" go to

[neat stratus]

Crushers are, unless you're in a massive horde, pretty much harmless

[near shore]

laughs in shotgun

[neat stratus]

Now those are slugs

[near shore]

ye

[neat stratus]

Also what perk tree do you run? Im genuinely concerned about how you do that much damage in 1 shot

[near shore]

its ofc, mix/maxed but still....holy hell

oh, that was all dmg perks

[austere mica]

12 gauge railgun

[near shore]

for actual shotgun id never run it like that

[neat stratus]

Bro whats done to reapers

[languid scarab]

Even at max fire rate, you always gets 1 stack of Surgical.

[neat stratus]

Really?

[tidal rapids]

Recommended perks for this chainsword?

[neat stratus]

Even for the first shot I mean

[near shore]

ya, revolver is slow firing

[near shore]

ehhhh.... lemme check the perks for ya first

[neat stratus]

God, every shot with this gun is an execution

[languid scarab]

Yeah, Zarona anyway, havent tried with Agrip. But you get a stack before the shot can even go off.

[neat stratus]

Nice

[near shore]

what are you looking ot use it for?

[neat stratus]

So as long as you aim thats basically a free 10% boost

[tidal rapids]

From all the cleave blessing boosts, probably horde clear with a little bit of carapace on the side

[neat stratus]

Being able to kill a reaper in less than a second is huge

[near shore]

id say "blood letter, or blood thirsty" with savage sweep or rampage"

[near shore]

behold

[neat stratus]

Sub second crusher lmfao

[tidal rapids]

If I go about building a CS from scratch sure but I'm looking to keep the blessings that already come with it.

[near shore]

CS? im vert drunk, please spell it out

[tidal rapids]

Chainsword

[neat stratus]

I remember when the revolver was arguably the worst weapon in the game

It was still among my favorites but I forgot about it

[near shore]

well, keep in mind, its a skill based game no wepon or blessing based. so if its not "optimal" thats ok!

[neat stratus]

Man and the fact you can inadvertently collat with this revolver

[near shore]

fuck im strating to not see straight'

[tidal rapids]

I'm running a powersword with power cycler 4 and slaughter 4. It's pretty good a clearing crowds when charged up and reasonably good at dealing with crushers and maulers provided I hit their heads 3 or so times whilst charged.

With this new chainsword from Melk, I'm wondering about switching it up a little

[near shore]

well, if u enjoy it then use it, ive got 550hrs in game, so if u want other options ill happily reccomend

ive got a chain axe that 1 shot crushers, seen above. i love the Dclaw

shovel is a choice as well

[tidal rapids]

Krieger hours be like

[near shore]

alright i got u

for shovel id say uncanny strike and skull crusher

give u a fair mix of anti armor and horde

fuck it

[zealous wyvern]

never say fuck it

its never a good idea

especially when drunk

this drunk

[zinc egret]

Scale on 1-10 how good is this? There is one big thing that I wish I could change but I cant now lol

[tall torrent]

Swap hit & run to headhunter

[bitter turtle]

below average

low damage stat (which is basically the only stat that matters there, aside from ammo)

ranged critical hit damage is not a great perk

stripped down is an ok blessing but i wouldn't run it on recon when it already has low dmg

[agile yew]

Which of the two chain axes for Veteran?

[near shore]

Like mk4

But I understand the other

[placid portal]

mk4 is hella dope

[frank ether]

both are cool in their own way

[placid portal]

mk4 got the meaty light & Hoarde heavy + Push attack

[frank ether]

yea I prefer mk4

new one is cool with thrust IV though

[bitter turtle]

you know

is flaniac actually optimal on powersword

now that i have that loadout customization mod to test things

i dont see any bp im hitting with flaniac that i dont with a naked sword

[glacial yacht]

i use carapace

[bitter turtle]

i was thinking if unyielding carapace is wild lol

so i dont have to invest in melee dmg nodes to 2shot crusher

[frank ether]

for single target doubt it matters

[bitter turtle]

and unyielding to delet boss faster

when would it matter then

packs of ragers?

[agile yew]

Brutal Momentum for 2nd blessing on Power Sword?

[bitter turtle]

yeah

[agile yew]

(id have Savage on Melk but dont wanna pick if its not best)

[torn needle]

This is the good stuff yeah

Psword already chews up everything other than carapace and bosses if built up correctly

[frank ether]

Idk maybe light spamming on packs or something

I'm too lazy to test tbh

psword busted enough that I dont care if my perks succ

[vernal harbor]

running something besides ps im re-educated on how ragers walk you like a dog

[neat stratus]

What are alternatives to the psword?

[vernal harbor]

Anything really, ps is just at the top

Parry boy, axe boy or knife boy it’s your play style and how fast you wanna go

[austere mica]

Shovel

It can’t decimate carapace but oh boy can it bully ragers to hell

[neat stratus]

I'm looking for something fast but good for horde clear to pair with a big iron

[nimble sentinel]

you forgot one https://youtu.be/iUAZXZV2wNA?si=VOhavHBTEzqGkcJq

[vernal harbor]

Devil claw

[austere mica]

Shovel fits that perfectly

[neat stratus]

[austere mica]

Also a safe bet because silly stagger

[vernal harbor]

I just prefer to not look like an asshole in my sci-fi grimdark hallway shooter

[neat stratus]

Who would win:
The Army of chaos
One silly guy with a shovel and revolver

[vernal harbor]

Using a shovel I always feel lame even though it’s good

[austere mica]

I got a stupidly good shovel really early after level 30

[dull ridge]

my friend got a mark 3 shovel with thrust 3, skullcrush 4, carapace 20 and 4% crit what should he replace? I know nothing about veteran as a spark man

[austere mica]

It’s like a 378 with naturally rolled decimatior 4 and skullcrusher or whatever 3

[neat stratus]

I was thinking about going spark 'ead since I like every part of their kit

[dull ridge]

I have two characters and they are both spark 'eads it is worth being squish

[wispy hinge]

is rending any good for plasma gun?

[vernal harbor]

Freak

[wispy hinge]

i feel like its too slow for it to matter

[vernal harbor]

spit

[neat stratus]

I'm not dead. Splendid!

[dull ridge]

I thought I was a Witch roughneck? which is it?

[bitter turtle]

not really

rending past 100% dmg modifierhas reduced effectiveness by 1/4th

[wispy hinge]

i figured as much

[bitter turtle]

what do you mean slow though

[wispy hinge]

compared to the autoguns

[bitter turtle]

are you using onslaught with plasma?

[pine snow]

when darktide crafting rework

[bitter turtle]

next week

||jk||

[pine snow]

and next week i will also have the courage to ask someone out ofc

next week is full of things that will happen

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-23297147

[wispy hinge]

i just wanna convert diamantine into plasteel 😔

[bitter turtle]

id rather have

diamantine to unlock a slot again

[pine snow]

i want those damn locks gone

i dont care how much i have to pay

just let me remove locks

[wispy hinge]

should i bother getting survivalist on a plasma gun build? i like the extra ammo alot but the extra node cost hurts

[vernal harbor]

Yes

[austere mica]

Survivalist will almost always be worth it

[wispy hinge]

ok good, i needed validation lmao

[austere mica]

And if it isn’t worth it for you

It’s worth it for the 3 other people

[vernal harbor]

If you’re out of ammo, switch to melee for a bit and it’ll naturally fill up as you advance, worst case scenario

Ammo always good

Movement bad booo

[austere mica]

It also makes dog rushes funny

[vernal harbor]

Demolition team

https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-go-to-the-moon-dont-leave-so-soon-don-toliver-kanye-west-ye-gif-10841983883013691937

[austere mica]

I don’t use demo team, I barely throw grenades every 60 and I need that extra point

Used to run it though

And it was funny

[terse idol]

Rashad

[vernal harbor]

I run grenadier primarily and auric maelstrom has me in an active role 💥💥

We love blitz

[slate hawk]

Shovel

[terse idol]

smmhhh

[austere mica]

I am to shit too play normal aurics consistently

[slate hawk]

lol

[austere mica]

But somehow capable of carrying heresy and even damnation?

[vernal harbor]

Outside of auric and maelstrom grenadier build is kinda useless

[terse idol]

alot of these builds are just kinda mediocre on lower difficulty

🥹

[vernal harbor]

If you figure out why this game operates like that, let me know

Dying to learn

[austere mica]

Specials

Just

Specials

[slate hawk]

Auric heresy is a fun time

[vernal harbor]

I had 37 ragers clowncar out a single door at once today on maelstrom, that is not a funny number that is actually 37 ragers, counted and all

[austere mica]

Despite playing with a near perfect plasma gun I still get my ass beat

I didn’t think that was exaggeration the first time you said 37

I know the shit Fatshark ai director gets up to

[slate hawk]

You'll get better with time

[austere mica]

Reminds me of a clip of like 23 plague monks in vt2

[vernal harbor]

As far as I know, 37 ragers is not something that it should be able to do

[austere mica]

I know

But I also need more than 1 build

[slate hawk]

On my veteran build I don't use a single Keystone

[vernal harbor]

Grenadier is basically normal play but you occasionally need a bailout of 4-8 grenades spiked into the ground at once

[austere mica]

I love queuing with another plasma vet and just having a shooting competition

[slate hawk]

That's not an attempt to be a flex

[austere mica]

I know

[vernal harbor]

This is the way

[austere mica]

My dumbass bayonet build runs keystoneless

[slate hawk]

The only useful one is the middle 1 but I do not like the fact that if you ping multiple enemies your damaged buff is essentially worthless

[austere mica]

I run tag with my plasma though because literally like 1 stack is enough to hit the dreg gunner bp and 8 is silly for bosses and toughness

[vernal harbor]

It’s not worthless it’s just silly to think everyone can prioritize your targets fast when you have 20 elites on screen

[austere mica]

It effectively a personal damage buff with some thought and extra support

[slate hawk]

Can't prioritize a target if it's dead
-local PG user

[austere mica]

It is really nice for bosses though

[vernal harbor]

For bosses it is chefs kiss

[austere mica]

“That fucker is yellow now, demolish it”

[vernal harbor]

For everything else it’s redundant because everyone should be killing specialists in a couple shots anyway

Toughness is good on it tho

[austere mica]

I run it with all subsidiary keystones because I love support in games

And all of the little pieces feel impactful

[vernal harbor]

I just wish these mfs were worth supporting

[wanton dawn]

I am down for some shooting competition sometimes, but rn its worktime

[austere mica]

It also helps that all of the team buffs are also just perfectly fine if they apply to you only but helping poor psyker is always nice

[slate hawk]

I love supporting a witch that doesn't take a medicaid even at 1 wound remaining

[austere mica]

I just shoot people with health stims if they have 1 wound left, unless they do that

Then they aren’t worth saving

[vernal harbor]

When you carry hard and give all resources to the team because they’re struggling and end up losing while one blames you for the loss, like I’m not even mad I just consider you harmfully stupid

[vernal harbor]

All them zealots swearing 1 wound is enough

[austere mica]

I just laugh at people who do that while looking at my 150 on the scoreboard

[slate hawk]

I might overextend myself every once and again and blow myself up with my plasma gun but that's why I carry One Plus wound drink it

[austere mica]

Helps I haven’t found one but this is exactly what I will do

[wanton dawn]

I laugh at ppl that havent deactivated score on their scoreboard

[slate hawk]

I'm confident enough in my zealot game play to go at 2 wounds

[austere mica]

I’ve blown my gun up maybe 3 times

[slate hawk]

Knife go brrrrrrr

I don't need to heal when I don't get hit in the first place

[austere mica]

I use it to know if I’m underperforming because social anxiety

[vernal harbor]

I turned off scoreboard because it was just pissing me off how exploited I am

[wanton dawn]

No score. Only stats

[slate hawk]

And I'm constantly giving renting my team golden toughness Because cool down reduction on crit cool fun and stupid

[austere mica]

I check mid match

Because I will feel like shit if I know or think I’m a burden

[wanton dawn]

I do to. But without score

[rigid pilot]

I only use scoreboard because I constantly top it 😎

[wanton dawn]

Only statz

Team score is borked

[placid portal]

Can't compete in killing things when I am teamed with a columnus or plasma

[austere mica]

I can’t read that fast, or comprehend scores that fast

[slate hawk]

All right Perturabo calm down lmao

[austere mica]

overcharges weapon with pious intent

[vernal harbor]

Someone called me out for my CV like it’s bad I’m killing things

[austere mica]

forgets I was at 95 heat and then dies

[slate hawk]

CV?

[wanton dawn]

Someone once left cuz i was cheating with bayo

Killing too fast

[austere mica]

I’m sad I missed the limb-splitter window

[wanton dawn]

Still good

[austere mica]

I couldn’t find that and brutal momentum in the same place

[vernal harbor]

Column v

[rigid pilot]

I too thought people were cheating because bayo were total ass before

[slate hawk]

Ahhh

[austere mica]

And bayonet is weirdly good without bugged perks

[rigid pilot]

New patch made it on par with most melee weapons

[slate hawk]

Now that auto guns actually work correctly from me I can finally appreciate them more

[wanton dawn]

Its better than most

[austere mica]

Giving a middle finger to ragers with basic stabs certainly make the bayonet

I don’t think I could use it otherwise

[rigid pilot]

Im pretty you can handle 3 ragers without even getting hit

With stabs alone

[austere mica]

Can confirm

I have done that

[rigid pilot]

It's already better than any non-peesword

[austere mica]

My shovel’s reaction:

God I love my shovel

[vernal harbor]

Autoguns on launch and for over a month having recoil that sends your view to the sky, locks your entire mouse movement until you stop firing and then unlocks after another second

[austere mica]

It was like the first shovel I actually rolled and it was perfect

[rigid pilot]

Shovel can stagger ragers with heavy?

[austere mica]

No, but it can with the special

[rigid pilot]

Yea but the bayo does way more damage

And staggers

[austere mica]

You can also stop them from starting the combo with the heavy though

[wanton dawn]

Best antirager is still ps but bayo is up here

[rigid pilot]

And cleaves

[austere mica]

Best anti anything is still PS

[placid portal]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-shoot-harrison-ford-nope-gif-11523430

or this

[austere mica]

That works too

[rigid pilot]

Peesword balanced

[austere mica]

I just never use Plasma ammo on non carapace melee

[placid portal]

I mean, if you compare a power sword compared to other weapons it's basically a lightsaber vs slabs of metal sticks

[vernal harbor]

point blank column v onslaught w/ 10% rending adios

[placid portal]

[austere mica]

Unless I feel like it or shit is going down

[placid portal]

Gotta love how Zealot charge makes all their attacks downtier enemy armor still ye?

[sick marsh]

Pretty sure this exists since Ford couldn’t do the sword fighting sequence on the day from food poisoning, so went for this instead.

[austere mica]

I just picked up the fire shotgun for them today and uh

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/adios-sicario-benicio-bye-goodbye-gif-26727325

[austere mica]

Yeah it 3 shots a damnation crusher with that

[placid portal]

gotta love those rapid fire semi tricks

[rigid pilot]

That's what I do when I play light gun games

[wise fossil]

Who else is sitting on a weapon waiting for it to get buffed

[slate hawk]

Shovel with thrust is fun

[placid portal]

the folding one right?

[slate hawk]

Ye

Mk 111

[placid portal]

Tru

[light ore]

i genuinely think that tac axe is ok

[austere mica]

I have a 379 accatran with mobility dumb I think

[light ore]

it is the worst weapon on anyone who has it

[placid portal]

[austere mica]

I forget the dumb actually

[light ore]

but it's completely sufficient for the challanges the game throws at you

[austere mica]

But it’s also gray so I know it is doomed to a hadron bricking

[light ore]

would be cool if they gave it knife move speed, i think it'd actually have a niche then

[wise fossil]

sure, it's fine but there's literally no reason to take it

[slate hawk]

I feel that

[austere mica]

Please no

[vernal harbor]

Fire shotgun igniting infinite enemies for a total of <200 damage each enemy is so disappointing

[placid portal]

good thing the weapon has brutal momentum, so it can hoarde fodder but kinda meh

[light ore]

it would be the "good against hoards meh against single targets" knife

like, it's a weapon with brutal momentum

[frank ether]

yea that could work

[placid portal]

its special is one of the few melee specials that staggers muties midcharge

[austere mica]

Wish mine had volatile

[frank ether]

I mean hard to go wrong with mobility

I'd still hate tac axe attack pattern tho

[bitter turtle]

honestly

i wish they'd just make the alt fire not need to load a shot

and balance accordingly

[wise fossil]

Shotguns still need additional buffs. Maybe that'll come along with the inevitable Columnus nerf

[bitter turtle]

its such a feels bad mecahnic when you play shotguns lol

[placid portal]

doesn't one of them has that horrendous upswing heavy?

[light ore]

the secret is to just qq cancel h1 and occasionally push attack

[frank ether]

I don't want to think about it

it brings back bad memories

using tac axe is like being seasick

[light ore]

also tac axe 2 is the only usable one

[placid portal]

Or make it do a special tac reload animation that's faster

[rigid pilot]

Shotguns still pull out faster than brautos right?

[vernal harbor]

Like why load one shell as if I’m not dick deep in 3,000 heretics

[light ore]

because 7 is bugged so that the second light doesn't hit at certain attack speed values

and 4 is

uh

[rigid pilot]

I found it annoying to run brauto on my agile build

[light ore]

4

[austere mica]

Found it

My beloved

[frank ether]

on the plus side I've been rly enjoying antax wombat axe

[placid portal]

pretty sure brautos tend to slap the gun before firing

[rigid pilot]

The animations differ but that's a noticable delay yea

[placid portal]

still wish they changed the lucius swap animation

[slate hawk]

Unf, that 80,80 for max damage

[placid portal]

that goofy ahh gentle cocking is maddening

[frank ether]

more like fix hb3 bayo animation a bit

[placid portal]

^^^

[rigid pilot]

Gentle cocking

[placid portal]

that too

definitely

[terse idol]

what if... hb with a sight

[placid portal]

Mk3 Animation is downright bad and disfunctional

[frank ether]

I think the swap time is fine but swap animation could be better lol

the way you pull the helbore is so sluggish

like you have all the time in the world

[rigid pilot]

||you can already do that||

[slate hawk]

Mods only unfortunately

But

[terse idol]

but vanilla doe

[placid portal]

You forget kriegers dont use sights because the empra decides whether they are redeemed so he guides their shots

[austere mica]

Still doesn’t oneshot dreg gunners without tag

[terse idol]

oh true

[slate hawk]

Is xbox boi

[terse idol]

and krigers only need to use their bayonetts

[placid portal]

Which how I play ingame

I cannot aim

[frank ether]

its also objectively the worst bayo even disregarding animation issues lol

[light ore]

replace special shell with flashlight is the only way

[rigid pilot]

Run the extremely cursed 25% unarmored/flak

[placid portal]

That too, also the animation is a poor representation of bayonet melee instruction

[austere mica]

if you are ever feeling useless remember the plasma gun has iron sights

[frank ether]

I think it could do a little more impact maybe

[slate hawk]

If you had damaged for flack and shot their gun I think it would?

[frank ether]

it doesnt do a lot of damage

[vernal harbor]

Sucks as a shotgun too though, point blank with my 550 shotgun and you’re telling me it’s not even a one shot

[frank ether]

the stabby bayo hits harder, faster, does more stagger, prioritizes head better etc

[vernal harbor]

Shotguns should one shot

[placid portal]

It should be a 2 part attack animation like the force staff/ Revolver
1st input is a buttstock bash
2nd followup is a Strikedown Bayonet

[rigid pilot]

They do

On crit

[vernal harbor]

They’re shotguns and you get like 90 bullets

[light ore]

shotguns are weird

i feel like they really underperform if you don't set them up correctly

[vernal harbor]

My blessing almost promised a crit if all pellets hit the sand guy

[light ore]

but once you do they perform really well

[placid portal]

agripinaa shotgun is fun

[rigid pilot]

Kantrael does ok point and shoot

[light ore]

love agripinaa

[frank ether]

I mean that still puts it at a worse spot than stabby bayo that just does everything at the same time lol

[slate hawk]

The guy from spiderman 3?

[rigid pilot]

One shots shooters properly

[light ore]

ku THUNK

[austere mica]

Kantrael competing for how many warcrimes you can fit in a 12 gauge shell

[placid portal]

the easiest method is to just make it stab

[vernal harbor]

Somehow aiming with the kantrael makes it not only shoot in a straight sniper path but does x5 the dmg

[frank ether]

I'd take that, but I'd also take some more cleave power to the attack

[placid portal]

yea should be horizontal sweep

Now it's better at hoarde

[frank ether]

you can kinda do horizontal drags with it

kinda busywork on your wrist

but you'll only get as many as BM allows you to cleave

[terse idol]

I kinda think maybe every hb shouldn't just be used for their bayo

[placid portal]

ye so let your operator do it instead

[frank ether]

baseline hb3 bayo has fuck all cleave

needs that BM

[terse idol]

But the hb3 is too clunky

[placid portal]

mk3 does 2 tap crushers

[austere mica]

I already have to take a break after a bayonet game fuck it we ball

[frank ether]

Its there to balance the swap time

[placid portal]

without exe stance*

[vernal harbor]

it’s the only saving grace it has

[slate hawk]

They need a little something else to separate them

[light ore]

it's a genuinely good sniper weapon

that never runs out of shots

[austere mica]

But then plasma exists

[placid portal]

Fun weapon for the right type of people

[slate hawk]

This

[terse idol]

I mean, after having played the infantry lasguns, like

[light ore]

i chose to believe it doesn't

[placid portal]

plasma is just broken in terms of ease of use to efficiency

[terse idol]

They dont hardly win as snipers

Plasma is the exception though

Its.... pretty broke

[placid portal]

It can handle carapace compared to kant las

[vernal harbor]

In the middle of an absolute storm of fire, mutants, snipers, gunners and swapping target to target, shredding elites one after another and hearing someone’s HB go off and get a single kill every 5 seconds is maddening

[rigid pilot]

HB?

Helbore?

[light ore]

it needs space to shine

[placid portal]

At least I can get a multikill shotgunner in 1 shot if I line em up

[light ore]

and sometimes you don't get that space

[frank ether]

the gun part of it is absolutely fine

needs no changes

[placid portal]

esp hab dreyko

[frank ether]

its the hb3 bayo thats weird

always been weird

[light ore]

and that sucks

[rigid pilot]

If you have space you are in no danger at all

[placid portal]

Never use Lucius on Hab Dreyko

[frank ether]

Its like a strikedown that doesnt have the power of a strikedown

[rigid pilot]

It's always when you have no space you die and your team really needs you

[light ore]

you can go from having space to not having space very quickly

[vernal harbor]

let me get them in formation rq

[placid portal]

Tbh

[light ore]

and the speed at which that happens is dependent on killing power

[placid portal]

shotgunners love to congaline

[rigid pilot]

Yea that's why voc and plasma are so braindead easy to play

[terse idol]

Gotta give it the can opener treatment

[rigid pilot]

Press eeeef

[terse idol]

Let it destroy crushers 😌

[light ore]

hb has a lot of killing power to kill things before they take away your space

[placid portal]

That is if you can first identify and shoot first

[rigid pilot]

You still need to work to not let it reach that stage

[slate hawk]

Man it's always a great feeling when you realize you left your earbuds at home

[bitter turtle]

who needs space

just charge in and stab

[rigid pilot]

With voc you just run in and brrrrr

[bitter turtle]

the gun is just to pick off snipers :^)

[light ore]

that's literally what i'm saying?

[frank ether]

I'd like some stagger power

[rigid pilot]

Yea that's sweaty

[vernal harbor]

Space or no space, the contribution youre giving with a HB in a high intensity mission is hindering at some point because now the wanna be sniper is so far back he’s not even in coherency

[frank ether]

whats annoying is

[placid portal]

or more killing power with a hint of animation fix

[rigid pilot]

And once someone else screws up or goes down

[light ore]

oh i see what you were saying

[vernal harbor]

the bayonet is the thing that makes it useable imo

[bitter turtle]

give me stripped down on helbore

ill run stripped down/no respite

[thick wolf]

speaking of shovels

[light ore]

yeah, it's not as braindead as other stuff

[frank ether]

my hb1-2 can absolutely curbstomp ragers with bayo, stunlock them to death in 2-3 hits

[rigid pilot]

Then you have to sweat twice as hard

[thick wolf]

spoilers: the blessings and stats are not that good

[frank ether]

very quick hits mind you

hb3 does this slow charge attack

and rager laughs at it

[slate hawk]

And currently With silence pox bursters he might get snuck up upon with something spawning behind them

[placid portal]

It's kinda pathetic even with BM imo

[light ore]

you can def feel the pressure more than if you were just running something else

[placid portal]

can't kill the tougher fodders

[rigid pilot]

I call it the fair weather weapon

Works well if everything is going smoothly

[frank ether]

If it just staggered the fuck out of big enemies and cleaved chaff with BM that'd be fine

[placid portal]

mk2 don't have that problem since it shoots fast imo

[vernal harbor]

Malice and below though is a perfect place for HB to shine, as a real sniper who can make a difference with few but very important kills

[frank ether]

well mk1-2 can kinda cleave chaff with bayo

they have uh..

broken attack speed

lmao

[placid portal]

pretty much

[light ore]

it's the lack of push attack and slow draw time that makes it prone to pressure

the shooting power is completely fine

[bitter turtle]

hb1/2 kills chaff well

you just spam the stab while shaking yoru camera aroun dlik ea lunatic

[placid portal]

slow draw time can luckily be overcome with Exe stance and shout

[frank ether]

if exec doesnt shine on helbore

might aswell trash it

its like the most ideal combo

[terse idol]

Exe I swear works worse

[placid portal]

Only use exe stance to quick draw tbf

[terse idol]

[frank ether]

pretty much

but here is something funny to consider

bayo kills will refresh exec

[placid portal]

But shout is better for spacing and self sustain

[terse idol]

My lasgun ia slaps on that exe

[frank ether]

which bypasses exec's brain damaged design flaw of losing it on weapon swap

[placid portal]

Kinda wish they remove the highlight ogryns into reload on activation

[terse idol]

Shout is just better in everything but self utility like infil I'm like

[vernal harbor]

T5 just needs everyone to be good at everything and weak at nothing so the fun specific builds just can’t be played often

[terse idol]

Going craazy on that much

[pallid dew]

Been looking at Youtube videos for an officer build

Anyone got recommendations?

[placid portal]

I NEED RELOAD ON EXE STANCE ACTIVATION

[placid portal]

Choice of weapons for the build?

[terse idol]

Go down the middle of the tree

[bitter turtle]

what is an "officer build"

[pallid dew]

Anything really

[vernal harbor]

VoC with revive and all coherency buffs

[pallid dew]

Support build

[placid portal]

Might as well just build grenadier

[austere mica]

Plasma sniper with full mark keystone and VoC

[terse idol]

VOC with or without revive talent

[placid portal]

• Field Provision

[austere mica]

Be me

[terse idol]

And focus target

[pallid dew]

Without the revive talent

[placid portal]

Without, why waste precious points on revive shout

[terse idol]

Without is better

[pallid dew]

Definitely

If the team is dying

They're the issue

[vernal harbor]

Already knew y’all were gonna jump on it lmao

[placid portal]

[vernal harbor]

It’s for flavor

He wants officer

[frank ether]

thats bad flavor

[terse idol]

Just take the cooldown reduction, VOC, Focus target pgun with glory hunter and toughness share talents

[placid portal]

Yes I do like talking to my people to stand up to get overheaded

🤓

[frank ether]

commisar doesnt revive, commisar commits friendly fire lmao

[pallid dew]

I got VOC with the ranged specialist purple keystone

[placid portal]

^

[vernal harbor]

Cutthroat makes voc revive worth it

[frank ether]

so if your zealot turns back, shoot a barrel to send him off the map

[terse idol]

No no it's not commisar though it's an officer

[austere mica]

Krubestie has been doing this for ages

[pallid dew]

I got a Commissar outfit

[terse idol]

That's fine

Same thiimg

[vernal harbor]

“Officer build?”

[placid portal]

laspistol or boltgun of choice?

[terse idol]

Look, commisars toe a fine line between improving morale and staring down the barrel of 50 lasguns

[placid portal]

or a live frag in their back pocket

[terse idol]

Yeeah

[austere mica]

They cross that line a lot it’s great

[bitter turtle]

what

you want focus target

iw as just gonna give you a generic revolver psword build and say "just pretend you're an officer"

[placid portal]

Melee is your choice, Claws are nice with general hoarde hacking, Chain Axe for brutal killings, Chainsword for Basic officer kit

[austere mica]

Shovel for peak shovel knight gameplay

[terse idol]

We gotta larp doe

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/action-figure-fight-iron-man-hulk-toy-gif-17133003

[austere mica]

And being good despite being

A shovel

[agile yew]

Knife for "we have zealot at home" build

[placid portal]

knife is fun

not used to the new one but the OG is cool

[frank ether]

knife is cool

[terse idol]

Knife is pretty universal

[placid portal]

Like any knives in a kitchen

[terse idol]

The lunge knife tech is coolio

[agile yew]

Hit lvl 30 lastnight, only thing i had with decent stats was one knife, so thats what im running now

[austere mica]

Knife has schmovement

Like the anime crusher backstab

[placid portal]

Wishing endeavors of an unbricked weapon

[frank ether]

I feel like bolter today

[agile yew]

Hadron kinda bricked it right away, but i had two IV blessings to slap on it anyway, will do for now

[vernal harbor]

i swear the public opinion of knife builds changes every day

[frank ether]

which is how I feel most days

but shush

[agile yew]

Who cares about public opinion on a video game honestly

[austere mica]

It depends on how recently the person encountered a zealot speedrunner

[placid portal]

Definitely

[vernal harbor]

This entire chat is caring about the public’s opinions

[austere mica]

Yeah that works alright

[agile yew]

Perks are well.. you wouldnt pick em

But it does the job

[bitter turtle]

that first target

is way too low

for being the 2nd most important stat on a knife

[austere mica]

Only like the 2 damn best blessings on highest tier

[placid portal]

Mine is backstab + crit bleed

[bitter turtle]

i unironically would trash it and start over ngl

just because of that first target roll

[placid portal]

It's his only transcendant weapon

let him cook

[bitter turtle]

oh nvm

do whatever then

[vernal harbor]

Correct me if I’m wrong

[agile yew]

Yeah i got the blessings saved for better stat rolls

[vernal harbor]

But isn’t the first target only apply to wide attacks

[agile yew]

Just hit lvl 30 lastnight, nothing good so far in shop

[placid portal]

just on first target

quite literally

[bitter turtle]

pretty sure it applies to all targets

[placid portal]

[bitter turtle]

er

as in

all attacks

just the first target you hit

for any attack

[placid portal]

swing swing and apply first target

[austere mica]

Both of my early 30 trancendents were brunt random rolls

[bitter turtle]

its a very big modifier tho

[vernal harbor]

But a single is a single

So by its words is what I was going off of

[placid portal]

multiplicative damage boost is kinda big

[bitter turtle]

where does it say single

[vernal harbor]

Multiple enemies in one swing

[bitter turtle]

it says its the first target u hit with an attack

[vernal harbor]

If it’s a single it’s not multiple

[bitter turtle]

doesnt matter how much cleave it has

[placid portal]

So assuming you hit multiple
first target dmg bonus applies to the 1st guy hit

[vernal harbor]

Shouldn’t it say just first target you hit

[bitter turtle]

#veteran-class message

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[vernal harbor]

Yeah but attacks are specifically wide or single

Single can’t hit multiple

[bitter turtle]

does it not literally say that

"how much damage done to the first enem yhit"

[vernal harbor]

When hitting multiple enemies

I’m not hitting multiple enemies if it’s a single attack

Like a one target strike

[bitter turtle]

ok let me show you in game

this is what the loadout mod is for

[vernal harbor]

That can’t hit more

[bitter turtle]

thank god

someone made this shit

[white minnow]

the description is overly specific in a wrong way yeah

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/4290d7992acc0363f5277ae98ec22251.jpg

and this is with mk3's heavy stab

so theres literally no way this is a "multi targeti hitting" move

btw

in terms of the damage you lose

at least on a flak rager

by setting a stat to 0

first target has the biggest loss, then penetration, then dmg, then finesse

fun facts

lul

[vernal harbor]

Add it to the typos fatshark needs to fix right next to the journals

[keen sedge]

chainsaw and columnus is pretty op

[sharp ember]

I want a “fuck it we ball” chainsword variant that doesn’t stop sawing until you either kill it, get hit, or dodge out

I want to latch onto a crusher’s face like a facehugger but with chainsaws

[idle carbon]

someone stunlock the monster and let that thing go to work

speaking of, I just played a game where some poor fucking chaos spawn got krak'd to death by 3 vets
literally, once it jumped in, it was krak stun after krak stun after krak stun until it keeled over
I don't think it got a single hit in

[agile yew]

First attempt at the 90%+ hitrate penance with plasma, its kinda easy to miss some shots when you got very ranged focused team and targets drop just when you click on em

Also 3 ogryns, lots of friendly fire backs to suck in my shots

Wish there was stat for seeing your hitrate, so could atleast see how far off i was

[dusty sluice]

what mod is that?

[idle carbon]

Loadout Config, you can only get it on the modding discord

[dusty sluice]

tysm

[woven tide]

For the 90% hit rate I just grabbed a revolver to do it. Has the right amount of damage and accuracy to get it done along with a respectable ammo count that's perfect for that penance.

[agile yew]

Yeah that was my 2nd choice for this, but had Plasma already ready

Read shotgun is somewhat bugged

[woven tide]

I'm not too sure tbh. Wouldn't be too surprised though

[agile yew]

Plasma delay makes this harder than it needs to be

Also trauma staffer in team

Throwing targets off

[solar sky]

Anyone know how to install ovenhoofs scoreboard plugin? When I put it in my mods folder, it just broke the scoreboard completely. When I try putting it in the scoreboard folder, it just doesn't work. Any idea what I'm missing?

[rigid pilot]

Make sure your load order is correct

And yes you have to manually adjust the displayed values

F5 to debug

[solar sky]

Does that mean I put the title of the plugin in the load order file directly? Sorry, I'm pretty bad with this stuff

[agile yew]

Use Vortex mod loader, makes it simple

[solar sky]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[strange grove]

hello, can this be saved?

[rigid pilot]

Change both perks

[strange grove]

flakiac?

[rigid pilot]

I don't know agripinna breakpoints

[strange grove]

oh well i can change later, thank you

ill start with flakiac for now

[rigid pilot]

Full bore works off the slug so it's real nice

No respite is probably bis

[idle carbon]

I find it funny when people ask if something can be saved, when it is in fact entirely fine

[strange grove]

just wanted to make sure its ok, im not used to shotguns

[idle carbon]

the agrip shotgun also has such tight spread when ADS, you basically hit every pellet, every time, as long as you have half-decent aim

free damage boost far as I'm concerned

[rigid pilot]

Yea ADS spread is actually pretty tight

[agile yew]

Doubt ill use it, but goes to my gun collection

[strange grove]

can agri slug stop muties ?

[balmy flume]

If you have it with the +20/+25 Damage to Maniac, yes.

For IAG and Braced version

[rigid pilot]

I think he meant shotgun

[balmy flume]

Ah sorry.

But shotgun solid slug should be good.

(That thing can take down Crushers, I doubt it would have trouble with a Mutie)

[rigid pilot]

Ive never seen it happening

So I assume no

[balmy flume]

Ok fair.

[strange grove]

lol first game with this agri shotgun, I love it much more than lawbringer

[civic knot]

Not terrible as usual, Emprah

[gusty bison]

No. 4k maniac damage is way too high

It'll stop ragers though

[whole crane]

Day 2; I am yet again asking for full Scion armour.

[novel dawn]

wait for the cadian armour to come out

ive seen people make really nice sets with it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163114688540848169/1197728006408519840/sda.png?ex=65bc5221&is=65a9dd21&hm=daf9c6b72312fd70d86ae0cc7c285202a94a507590b1f05cf32adb9a1a11a409&

anyways

need advice

on le gun

[whole crane]

I haven't seen that set yet.

I still want the scion armour xD

[gusty bison]

Which gun

[novel dawn]

which is better

stats wise

i was thinking top one?

[gusty bison]

Bottom

[dire olive]

Mobility doesn't really matter