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it was T4 low intensity it was easy, but dude just kept popping heads
This is what I use. It's so good.
Imma try with revolver
i did it on high intensity to kinda avoid that
The problem is that youre gonna get fucked by ammo aura from other randos
If you're just trying to pug it lmao
You can check that
whats the dumpstat on mk 3 helbore?
I just tried to join a PUG
And 3 other vets with scavenger
š¤£
RNG of life pisses me off
where is the fun in that
Mb carry on then
hi in T4
I take your advice but I want to try to do it the way intentede
?
So, just finished the 90 percent penance, and yeah, its best done with plasma or revolver, apparently with shotgun all pellets count.
does it have mobility as a stat? if so, it's mobility
So you need to hit most of the pellets, not just shots.
stability is an alternative dump stat
well theres this in shop
Thats not too bad statwise.
if this is for dockets, i'd still buy
I would say stability is the dumb stat, or stop power.
if it's for milk, no
yeah buy
Worth it then
now i just need a build for it šæ
also the mats to actually level it up
yo wait what i just realized something
marking a target with "focus target!' makes them bloody even if they took no dmg :
Stability
Ammo (but donāt dump too hard)
Ya canāt tell at a glance cuz of their yellow outline thanks to the mark
HB3 needs high charge rate
it'd only speed up by .2 seconds
Unyielding. Unless you plan on being the can opener man
Oh. Ehh, preference really
Sadly, I had to reroll a blessing already. So My perks are +Stam and +25% to Poxwalker/groaners
Plan on rerolling the Stam into either Carapace or Unyielding.
I like carapace for the flexibility
Unyielding is good though if you're already packing a lot of monstrosity damage
Rather, dmg that those class of enemies are going to be feeling more.
I feel like Unyielding is easier to deal with... Carapace is annoying unless I'm playing with a Plasma.
Better use the top one
after 1.5mil ordo, 30k plasteel this is the best 1a I could build
Roll it. No balls
I had much higher earlier, I feel dirt poor now
I want a 80 dmg, <10 stopping power lasgun. Most dmging "pew"
The entire gun
wow my 1a can 2 shot gunners on weakspots
Is Falter worth it?
this is the mentality of the bourgeoisie
I wanted headhunter but Hadron was being not nice
with falter Im able to juggle 3 ragers at ranged if I alternate targets, I wonder if I can do 4
Groooss
4 too hard
Can you cheese bosses with falter?
Falter is too goofy
I don't think so, FS has made bosses much harder to stagger
But its worth a test
falter on the 1a doesn't make them get knocked down, just stumble
That's all you need to cheese them.
Only stunlocking I know of is with ogryn shovel or 4 vet krak spam
Or I guess 4 zealots with relic
The zel method used to work seemlessly, hell u could ledge DHs and other monstrosities mad easy with it
Still stunlocks to a degree now that it staggers them every other pulse
Now they made the stagger every other pulse to minimize that kinda ledging shenanigans
Iāll miss it for sure, never seen a DH or a chaos spawn fall to their death without it
Seen the video of a ogryn slapping the DH off the ledge
lol awesome, ogryns doing the most as always 
Wrong one
I saw a clip of the method in meat grinder by one of the OG ogryns in the chat, mad crazy to see in action
You can give yourself time with the falter set up. As l9ng as you have something else paired with your 1a it's enough.
Perfection has never had a video, till now
The dog push before it happened, the delay due to the DH not wanting to go
It'll be a little odd to get used to and the stagger can screw up your shots but you can just learn to place headshots after that point. Everything else that's already vulnerable to infantry lasguj dmg will die to you.
Beautiful 
Bonus if you're running executioners stance and focus target/marksman focus.
You'll just be a little more vulnerable if you're investing in marksman, not too deeply of an issue with proper horde management and target prioritization.
You can definitely get better but its enough even in aurics.
Just...with that mobility definitely be kn your shit with defense.
bitchslapped into oblivion
I will stay a MF enjoyer and I believe it's stocks will only go up because 1% reload per stack and rending at 10+ stacks is complete ass
Reload is nice. 1% per stack. Not so imo
Eh, I feel it enough when I'm not taking the reload top talent early on in my spread.
Both those ends are so terrible
Basically is a free perk instead of on your gun
Much less stress on myself to be able to line and find another target to extend the duration since I take that and ranged enemy highlight
Stay enjoying king šŖ
do not let the slaves to the meta wear you down
Especially when 10% rending at all times is in the middle tree and is accessible with MF
Idk, I don't think enough about it and have only really noticed my ttk go down on the triple dip.
Damn...So close...yet ...so far....
Fatshark edging our perils
So it's just a matter of whether or not I want to passively have a nice shiny or create my shiny.
I've had a lot of luck just keeping my shit up anyway so it's whatever for me.
MF stacks and HB mk2 1 tapping ragers
Did I imagine an ogryn edit of this? I swear I saw it somewhere
I still have to work on my unnecessary movement. Definitely losing more stacks than I should
learn to stand on boxes or even fences, it confuses the A.I š
Also very small issue. I don't like 3 MF stacks off headshot. Max stacks w/o 15 stacks isn't a multiple of 3
i always combine the MF keystone perk with smoke grenades
does the dodge backwards on jump setting without moving make you lose stacks
Just got a zealot asking that the group should praise him because of his work last round
My LC: You are right (clears throat) You are doing the best you can and I am sure the Emperor is proud of you....Also your mother wherever she is

Stand dodging loses stacks. Crouch dodging doesn't lose stacks
Crab walk gaming
I am a MF enjoyer and I do not like crab walking for it. Get headshots nerds
Considering the reddit, aiming makes the HBs unusable
the way i aim is I just...well..stare at where im about to shoot and let the emprah my hands just move there and it's like 99% consistent unless some maniac bonks me from behind
I sure do love seeing Fatshark update their Twitter and website with Zola's journals and zero of it being in game. I sure do love it
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to be ingame?
Ridiculous
Wait for them to make the next stage of Atoma invasion
A Fortnite message
Imagine being able to play a game with single monitor setup
I remember tryna get into the destiny lore via the game, then realized how much reading Iād have to do to gain practically nothing lore wise 
as a GW2 player I can't
*Angron has somehow returned
Like not even a banner when you login to direct you to possibly know any story is happening
I like how most people have already completed the special assignment but the journals are still acting like Zola's fate is uncertain.

I have no fucking clue whats their idea of this
"I dont have time to explain why I don't have time to explain"
Like, I guess an intern writes the journals for nothing but even if they're dirt cheap to make I gotta wonder what they think the goal is there.
It will be 60 bucks of a expansion
It's creating more disconnect where there wasn't any.
the journals are subject to the svedish holidays
Also has all the time of the world to stand around outside breathing air

Mah immersion
so marksman focus works better with falter from my limited testing
stagger on weakspot hit
i dunno if I like my 1a over my agri iag
going to try a marksman focus ia build in auric rn lol
1a*
I don't think I'd mind the mk3 bayonet if it wasn't like "aim, ready! Slash!" While the bayonet stab is just that. A stab. My guy is lifting the bayonet like he's readying a caxe heavy when I just tap it
Dammit Hadron, give me that HH III already...
fuck you hadron
what would be plasma gun dump stats?
Atm charge and thermal
is the charge rate affecting damage already fixed?
Idk about that interaction. All I know is that charging kinda only exists atm to soak your ammo
Suggested weapons for melee? Been enjoying mk3 power sword but wanting to get a statted good weapon
mk6 power sword
Whatāre the big differences?
It's been fixed.
The mk6 powersword has horizontal lights which come out faster than the mk3's charged heavies. It also has a unique push attack into l3 combo that when built properly will reliably 2 shot crushers to the head.
It also has slight movement speed slowdown on energize, which can be cancelled by dodging.
Most people prefer the mk6 for the above.
If you want other melee options, I highly recommend the Rashad caxe.
Makes the funny shovel noise
I'd consider it on par if not better than the mk6 powersword.
I donāt like the caxes sadly. Maybe because Iāve used heavy evis a lot and just think the axe is inferior
im probably alone on this but i really like the combat knife 4
Really?
My man Melk really coming thru
Hopefully theyāll patch it next update
Thatās perfect
hot damn
I feel like Hadron REALLY wanted me to use this sub-par gun ;C
āVarlet, commit extermination with thisā
āBut this isnāt what I wanted-ā
āShhh, ur upsetting the machine spiritās powerā
Vraks 7 is every good
And that's a very good one you got there
i havent used it a lot on veteran actually, i have lucius MKII and kantrael XII with similar stats i use on vet
Vraks 7 can and will one shot gunners to the head
i do use it on my psyker though, but the one on my psyker isn't good like this
yea i know it did get buffed too
Whew thats a good one
Like
Top tier Vraks 7
Its ALMOST perfect
i usually use like deadly accurate + headhunter on these kidn of precision weapons
Swap Carapace to Maniac and u should be good
Surgical is WAY better
For Vraks, you want surgical
HH is actually bad on vraks 7
ah
Surgical guarantees crits
Mhm
Ur better off with 1 crit headshot than 2 regular ones
So
100% crit rate is important
On the vraks 7 u need to learn to slow down
The faster u spam the V7. The worse the dps
Only spam vs stuff u can 1 tap without a crit (i.e. shooters)
Im pretty sure the vraks 7's i have built so far could one shoot gunners, shotgunners in the head.
With a crit headshot ye
Without u need exec
And that requires exec
Which is gross poopoo
Either that or some really high MF stax
I did play the game as veteran for awhile as a crab man,I probably did use it awhile then with vraks 7.
Ye thats possible
Hard breakpoint though
Easy to mess up
But like with reciprocity, deadshot, some crit boosts and surgical
U only need to wait like 0.6-0.8s for 100% crit rate
Which is v nice
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In my experience relying on MF stacks to give u breakpoints is very unreliable
Oh btw, side note.
Mg12 is pretty bad atm.
So you'll be fine with the vraks 7
Not if you play as a crab.
It is as the devs intended.
They need beta testers for the ratling class.
Or mf
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You can do it with unarmored perk
Hardon going brick or not
Which I recommend btw
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Unarmored not needed then
This feels tight
Anyone else glued to the recon las gun and chain axe. I can not stop using it no matter how I tweak my build.
Unless you mean elite flak
I tried it
It doesn't work on my v7 at least
For gunners
I wouldnt run flak on vraks
If 10% elite gives u the same both gunner 1 tap breakpoint (taking 30% weakpoint + 15% elite)
It has a 1.0x mult
I need it for flak rager one-shot iirc
Oh i run maniac on mine
And helps with trash when I hipfire it at generic flak dudes
For maniac rager 1 tap
how brick of you
absolutely
No idea what to toss on it
In my eyes Iād only swap thunder strike for a power based blessing
Stagger nice but when u hit something thatās already stunned you usually wanna merk em rather than keep the impact going
Calmly clearing gunners with marksmans aim
Allies clearly see there are 5 gunners around the corner
Knife/Stealth zealot rushes around the corner ahead everyone
Dies instantly
Leaves
Solid
you might have not used the right roll, it needs BM
Just gotta swap out thunderstrike
Alright, but that leaves me with one other thing to swap. What should I touch?
kerillian players went to zealot i think
Frankly
Nothing
Just roll with it
In case weapon gets changed or blessings rebalanced
unarmored for flak if you wanna deal with bruisers and maulers more but its honestly good right now
Alright, then what should I toss out TS for?
Thrust
Maulers are carapace anyway
not on body
Ye but mk 3shovel wants to go for the head
fair enough
y'all i dunno how i wasnt using focus target until now
Uncanny also means if ur panic smacking them in the head ur rending builds up so fast its better anyway
shit fkn slaps
Focus target gud
also what do yall typically bind ur tag button too
I use T
My mk3 has thrust and carapace. 2 flip heavies kill a crusher
But a mouse side button is solid
Mine isn't optimal but I got hammberblow on it and I actually like hammerblow. It's lights smacking everything around feels great
I bear with default, my mouse aim hates me everytime I press middle mouse but fuck it we ball 
Theres a build atm for it
Its not super crazy
But its solid
is it headhunter and dum dum
Marksman focus, precision strikes.
And ye headhunter and dum dum
Deadshot if ur truly batshit insane too
link me the build im interested now
Marksman focus, precision strikes
One of the lowest finesse weapons in the game
Its cos finesse buff on MF isnt a % atop ur current finesse. Its a flat buff
It bumps recon up from an atrocious 1.4x to an acceptable 2.15x finesse when stacked
And a 2.15xfinesse accatran is... actually decent
that seems like alot of work to make a weapon usable
one of the vet builds of all time
whats wrong with exe?
VOC exists and is much better
with less points invested
depends on the build you run
It's in a not great state atm
Needs some tweaks for usability
It and infiltrate need some things baked into the baseline
VOC is a 1 and done with the overshield for way more value
ok i can get behind that. but they still feel very good
Only if you aren't having to break out of exe to melee constantly
Which happens a lot in challenge content
hey guys, need quick advice. just found Hand-Cannon Tier IV Blessing, what should i replace on this?
back line as ranged vet
You'd want to put hand-cannon over the gloryhunter
There's no such thing as backline in this game, enemies do not only spawn in front of your melee guys and people do not (and realistically cannot) just hold your hand all game
You have to be self sufficient and melee
that's what I was thinking but I didn't want to just mess the weapon up if there was somethin im missing
dmg vs maniacs is fine too how i have it right? was some bad stat there needed to be replaced before
Yeah maniac is good, you could always change it to carapace later if you want to take out crushers faster instead
i only play maelstrom and auric and yes you definitly can back line
the unarmored is less than ideal i think (maybe help with dreg gunners tho?) but otherwise thats a very nice piece
Same, and shooting from behind people =/= being reliably able to turret
yeah that makes sense. yeah it's the best roll for a revolver ive gotten that didnt get bricked
Scion builds are actually fun.
i really had no idea that people thought exe stance was bad
like voc is good i knew that but its just merc ult from vermintide
VoC is just better than Exec AND VoC uses 2 points instead of, what, 3-4 points it takes to make exec useful?
Is the power sword good I am leveling it up.
voc is BORING
OI
Fuckin love kruber
It's bad compared to VOC, because VOC is amazingly good. Not just for you, but also massively valuable for your team and prevents not only chip damage but wipes.
He was my 1st dlc career, I couldnāt pass up blocking warp fire 
I mean the professional is cool too.
what's best catachan sword?
yeah
Like why tf is do you have to spend a point to let exec stance refresh duration? That alone makes it hard to want to take, vet points are precious
finally. someone that actually runs a shield on gk
And then it drops on switching to melee
How else are u supposed to run it? Without the cool passive?
Not just doesn't reset there, just drops
based
what mark of catachan sword is the 'best' ?
Down to personal preference imo
All got funny parry
yeah iv been wondering why thats not baked into it honestly
okay thanks
A lot of people seem to like the IV more than others but idk, I dont use it much tbh
But the plasma gun is awkward to use
its fun droping the sun on a crusher tho
I use Devils Claw
OR Skull Crusher
Woh, krak be upon thee
But it does make Crusher killing tougher
Because of its heavy attack and moveset
The Catachan swords with bleed builds are fun.
bleed builds 
"Catachan swords with bleed builds"
i am cautious towards any newbies listening to vivid fyi
You mean combat blades?
i would recommend against it lol
I have done fine with this build.
Always take what broskis say with a grain of bias, considering trust levels , hours played
That's not exactly a great metric
That type of crap is always differing
Are you running lacerate/flesh tearer?
It's fine if you like dodging
You dodge with every other melee 
dodging is a crutch and dps loss
youāre basically trolling your team if you dodge tbqh
what?
what blessings do I want for crowd killin devil claw? rampage/shred or skullcrusher?
If you don't dodge attacks you are going to die
i run auric maelstroms with my premade 4 psyker group and we dont dodge broā¦ā¦..
Youāre being joked my dood
i had to think about it for a sec
Bleed builds are fun against armor.
What would y'all do with this guy?
had me for a minute
Doesn't it go through flak?
Bleed does different damage depending on the target
It only does truly terrible damage to crushers
Why you have maniac and flak on your weapons
I finish them off with a plasma gun.
I don't get near crushers.
Shredder is big doodoo atm, Iād do nothing
Especially with those perks
crit = ramp/shred noncrit=ramp/ss
ty!
would slap on Pinning Fire and change weakspot perk to Flak
ignoring the relative viability of autopistols
It would make sense why I damage things with that flak.
which blessing to switch is your choice
Powderburn is probably the least useful one, as it only works against gunners and shooters
Other enemies are immune to suppression
Bleed builds aren't useless but my build is mixed so I don't have to suffer.
Because they take so long to even become useful.
Vet is not terrible well built for using bleed
Those stats are incredible but unfortunately all 4 rolls are not great. And the gun itself is not great either atm. I'd run something else lol. But if you insist, change weak spot damage to flak and change powderburn to pinning fire.
Plasma gun is good at what it does but make sure you carry a good melee to make up for it's huge weakness.
Id argue thats the most important role distinction in the game
The reload speed and time.
Whether playing any build, it will always require an analysis of whether the build will primaryily be playing melee or ranged.
What to change in this chainsword?
Plasma gun is probably one of, if not THE, most op gun in the game. Its incredible. And vet has access to a lot of strong melee to swat anything that gets close. Like, just run plasma and power sword and you become a god
But the reload time it has makes up for and the overheating
No one gets to sit in the back and not melee. You can have a build that's better or worse for using ranged or melee, but you still have to engage with it no matter what.
To not make it too overpowered
Roles arent set in stone for every encounter but i still think there is a backline build.
it's actually completely braindead
higher blood letter and unarmoured to carapace. and wrath will carry you with hoard
that's a good lookin' chainsword. Upgrade/change Unarmored to Maniac, and upgrade/change Bloodletter to Rampage.
If you keep Bloodletter, you can use Unyielding perk to specialize in sawing bosses with bleed synergy
The amount of time it takes fucks you over in the middle of a horde.
yeah the vent and reload mechanics do very little to drag the plasma down, its still incredibly OP and the best gun in the game
just don't reload in the middle of a horde lol
Carapace is alright too if you hate crushers
There's builds where you primarily want to use your ranged weapon if you can help it. But not one where you only sit in the back and if anything melee engages with you, it's your teams fault for not "tanking" effectively.
you can manage the ammo in such a way that you only reload when there's no threat
There is moments when that isn't possible.
because the mag capacity is like 140
Nah proper backline player should aim to be dodging with their ranged weapon out.
maybe if you're bad lol
Realistically teammates cant keep all the aggro off.
then perish 
or sweat and use the reload animation skip tech
just reload when its slow before any hordes. And if you get good at animation cancelling and dodging and you can reload even in the middle of like 10 dudes if you want to. When you hit max heat, hold vent for 1 second and you can shoot 4 more times.
Self defense isn't avoidable
Im actually not sure is it hard?
I'm not bad. It just sometimes messes you up such as boss fights.
Not at all
It doesn't interrupt your actions
You can dodge in melee and ranged and do exactly the same thing you were doing
Cavalcade is hella underrated IMO
But that's the only time it overheats.
But if you don't clear melee units you will get swarmed/run out of dodges
the game also has staged reloads, so you can literally reload over a period of like 10 seconds
if you really are getting pushed
Depends on the build
In a boss fight melee isn't always exactly viable
The colomnus build for example i use could play ranged for near the entire game and not struggle due to shout, grenades being able to keep the chaff off.
mk6 power sword
its fine IMO but you get a lot more milage out of blaze away/pinning fire/raking fire. it comes in 4th place for me; not bad, not ideal
boss fights are almost always melee what do you mean
When you can't circle them around something
so run to where you can
I think an important thing to just say when i mean backline is that it doesnt mean backlines wont ever engage with melee enemies, but they will aim however to usally stay out of their way, pritorize other targets.
Dodge a chaos spawn?
oh youre talking monsters? Still melee is strong option against all but Beast, and beast is super easy to outrun and reposition or reload or whatever like 99% of the time
Those are fast
Dealing with hordes is about the last thing they want to be doing and is usally either a desperate move or just nothing else to do.
be faster
Don't have enough stamina to do that.
Heās gonna say skill issue.
It's not that I die but I do take a lot of damage.
Download numeric UI mod it show you number dodges base on weapon you have
dodge and block the choas spawn when hes on you, if you arent running power sword it should be easy unless he gets you in a corner or a mixed horde.
It's harder to solo bosses with melee (unless you're thammer zealot)
Console.
But melee is generally how people actually do boss damage
Cannot do what you speak of.
i almost always run a +3 stam curio on the vet to make up for his weak stam, it really mitigates a lot of his defensive problems
unless there gun does more damage
I need that stamina regeneration on my curio I am getting it.
But I don't have the resources
My toughness regeneration has saved my ass.
During boss fights anyways.
Vet truly gets some funny toughness at times
Have you ever tried devil claw parrying bosses?
Those deal damage it helpful instead blocking.
Against the beast of nurgle you should probably keep range because it can just absorb you.
Yeah.
I stand by this
@crude ermine Build worked great btw! Crazy how that one toughness dmg reduction perk increases survivability by a ton.
Yeah you need toughness dr
Otherwise a single bruiser can take all of your toughness
with 1 hit
That's iron will, stupidly strong
Glad it works
who is will and how did he earn the nick name iron?
Yeah Iron will. I definitely missed that when I was browsing for a build. Very glad its in the build now š
mining
Out for Blood is also really good if you have spare
I think it's solid for... Exec Stance builds
My gunner veteran picked out for blood
Hold up... After you make two modifcations on an item and "lock it" you can change those two locked affixes as many times as you want????
yeah
Only maximum two modifications
Rest locked out yes
Is an rng game
you choose 2 but you can change them out as often as you want
Like gambling
This is what I mean... Wow I never knew that...
yeah, it's bad but not that bad
I have changed blessings and perks multiple times on my main gun
trying to minmax it 
Yeah that's a huge development for me, can test different things... I thought you were 100% locked after making tow choices... (I quit before all the crafting stuff came out).
What blessings are good on the new shovels? I was thinking to get Thrust to replace Thunderstrike, and replace Infested with either Flak or Carapce
Thereās wasnāt crafting before that time I played
I played beta and then releaw for about 3 weeks then quit until a week and a bit ago.
You must have some burnout
This is accurate lol
I wasnāt there
Trying out 'out for blood'. Its right next to +20% faster reload time on my las-gun.
The choice Im facing as a marksman/sniper veteran is either
- Grenade every 60sec
or - 20% faster reload time on las-gun. (Im pretty good at reloading as needed vs reloading when empty
The only grenade talent I have is the shredder (mid-tree access )compulsory one.
out for blood is really strong. doubles your melee kill toughness regen and gives you ranged kill regen. and I'd definitely take the talent to restock nades, 100%
having 30 grenades over a mission is REALLY strong
Okay, many thanks. I'm starting to use the grenades more as they become available via that perk. That reload time makes me wish I had 1 extra point somewhere. I just cant justify any other point tradeoff š¦
Yeah as a vet you really gotta use every point wisely, everything is a hefty tradeoff
Which honestly, is a good thing! I like it when a game makes the choices on a knife's edge versus a clear A-B-C cookie cutter build and everything else is garbage.
Hadron plz don't brick
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Hrmmm lets get some ordo dockets and exp boosts on that thing!
The curio
Hadron would load up my gun with curio perks, that asshole
Funny enough I could do with a lot more ordo dockets given my luck with Brunt
Hey guys! Does anyone know if Gloryhunter on a plasma gun would be affected by Born Leader?
I was very confused haha
I thought this is general chat
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b1a4520-f766-4733-9ea9-253f830c0797
This is my current set up. Loadout is accurate as well. Im working on getting a new 1a infantry lasgun with the proper blessings DA/Headhunter.
Is https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118150996 actually a good spec or just a meme?
Its operating fine on Damnation but last time I shared build, I got some pretty serious wisdom. Any more tips for marksmen/sniper NPC lasgun Guardsman?
Iām a machine gunner 
Shoot
Imma try
Heavy Lasgun would be great for this game.
Whichever the crew served one is... Kinda lacking in the lore department
I use braces auto graia thatās only gun give lmg-like
And you means hotshot Lasgun
Or hellgun
goood... goood...
Lascannon!
I donāt think fatshark gonna give lascannon
They prefer simple weapons
Some of us wished like stubber
Like powerswords!
Any Born Leader experts know if Gloryhunter works with it?
Sorry I just finally rolled a plasma gun that isn't complete dogshit
I'm very excited to use it in my babysitter toughness regen build
Theres node talent called ācovering fireā
Work as regen toughness to teammate when they are at melee range
As you shoot from gun range
Oh yeah I got every kind of toughness talent stacked up
no keystone
only toughness
bigger blue bar, better person
Thatās remind me running 320 toughnesses before talent rework.
the build I'm looking to do stacks Exhilarating Takedown, Confirmed Kill, Covering Fire, and Voice of Command with the +10% toughness replenishment
total overkill
we'll see how it goes!
the ultimate "healer" build I guess... with frag grenades for good measure
why not uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Born Leader
Oh yeah it takes Born Leader! That's the whole point lol
He asked does glory hunter affect born leader

Ohhhh that's a good point... Maybe I'll skip on that one
skipping that lets me take survivalist
worth
thank ya sir!
this any good?
I use this but with helbore. More so maximizing all the elites/specials and heashots for the toughness replenish
Scattershot + manstopper is very good on Lawbringer
It's ok, basically just a good stuff build. Can't recommend taking born leader (the value from it is actually very low) or avoiding rending strikes. Onslaught is also very good on automatics, but he didn't take it. Demo team is also largely redundant with nade regen.
it would be good if A) Shotguns weren't the absolute worst right now in higher difficulties B) The ammo count wasn't so low
definitely not bad but I wouldn't get your hopes up of it being viable in the later difficulties
dont forget to take out for blood too lol
I haven't played around with the others very much but the kantrael is really fun even on HIST dam
the flame round special pierces everything and cleaves infinitely, you can melt a whole corridor in 1-2 rounds
not enough points for my stupid meme build š¦
including bulwarks
I haven't found a way to make shotguns work but I haven't tried the kantrael too much
wanted to run a support shotgun build so bad
but spent most of my time reloading
cause 4 shotgun shells to a rager doesn't kill for some reason :^)
kantrael is at least on par with the zealot flamer imo, if not even a bit stronger
maybe I'll give the kantrael another shot sometime
I'mma keep praying for buffs though
Ohhh Helbore is a great idea! Could definitely run exhilarating takedown with that one
it from melk. should i get it just to break it down for the blessings?
I would, both those blessings are BIS on various shotgun builds, you can strip the one you want to use next and roll a beastly gun
I see very little point in melk bucks other than collecting T4 blessings lol
same
scatter shot or deathspitter for break?
How am I to get Be Methodical penance?
Quick question: WTF is a salvo??
I'd say deathspitter in this instance
more flexible and always going to be used with a shotgun
I'd probably take death, but both are good. You could always save it until you wanna use one, strip it then depending on the build
from what I've gathered every shot counts as a "salvo" until your aim fully resets
The period of continuous shooting, resets to a new salvo after a moment of not shooting
Yeah in most cases, once the recoil on your gun settles, you enter a new salvo. Any shots fired before the gun fully settles is considered part of the same salvo. It is not very clear or clean
What be best weapon for Be Methodical penance?
All right
helbore's probably easier since you dont need to reload if you can keep critting and you just stay at some area to snipe every ranged target you see
damn, I finished every veteran penance except for the long bomb
nah, I just didn't do it
All the veteran penances besides make every shot count I've never really thought about it, just got it unintentionally while playing
I'll get to it at some point
i just threw the grenade really far away at a horde and got the penance lol
I got it at the start of I think Hab Dreyko. Right before dropping down at the start I saw a group ahead "eh fuck it" and got it
@raw steppe I was going to make a private game to try the accuracy penance but could not figure out how to make private game with only me and 3 bots?
private games are for 2-4 players only
I'm using it primarily as a waveclear alongside helbore 3
Helbores and infantry lasguns. I kinda stay in the stances for like 30s a lot of times. Also higher difficulties will give more targets to refresh
I wanna see what a 0% stability mg4 on full auto looks like
Ive had times where its lasted so long where the ability recharged back up while it was still active
kk
MG1A infantry las worms good
yup, its pretty fun when you clear every ranged enemy before heading to the next area. Makes life a lot easier for the team
What about recon las gun?
Really happens a lot. Especially with aurics having more chances of specials.
Cause its rate of fire and the bonus damage lets you one hit bodyshot scab shooters
Don't bother this patch
at a certain distance scab and dreg stalkers too
I built it in anticipation for recon buffs trust
I got it with recon during those 2 weeks recons were good. But then they nerfed their dmg and shocktrooper so no more eternal laser piss
Big shit. Bad dps, bad ammo efficiency. In the dumpster currently.
can we have rewolwer buffs š¤
Do you have an alert when recon is mentioned?
N-no...
Boltgun be good too?
It should considering how much the others closed the gap. Sorry grandpa XII your fire rate to dmg don't make sense right now
yes please š
MG1A made it stupid irrelevant
buffs soon trust
If you make every shot count for the penance. Fun weapon though.
Its like 40 less damage and 1.5x faster shooting
boltgun is fun but ammo efficiency is kinda iffy compared to shit like plasma
And the MG12 was a two shot bodyshot anyway
Helbores don't get nerfs
Because someone at fatshark loves them
At most they get bugfixes to egregiously abusive mechanics like limbsplitter bayonet
But then they left brutal working for it
Oh yea. I don't even shoot when monstro spawns
I swear the bayonet on mk2 does more damage than mk3
Way higher dps 
but I much prefer the damage output of mk3 because I can take full grenade or support talents
Yo whatās a salvo
Nvm scrolled up
Found the answer from earlier
Thanks lads
The search bar can also usually give you answers for any questions
where can i obtain such frames?
Anybody around here have a good bleed knife build for vet? Asking for a zealot friend.
I think that left frame is for limited time redeemed on website
Is gone I think
Khoc trong long, cried in feeling. @orchid condor
Huh a Vietnamese named emote
And people are not letting me get my penance lol
I am the V of Vietnam (yes I am vietnamese)
you want something more steered towards the knife, a gun or both?
Don't really need to do to much to get it to function.
WTB Diamantine Trader
ỠnÓ 3 que D:
i am born native, im 1.75 generation
i moved out 9 year ago
Texas
lot in Texas, yeah
Idk why tho, the heat is INTENSE than Florida
Like Fl "imma burn you but slowly", Texas "imma burn you to crisp"\
Oh yeah i heard there will be snow, and things will be the same like last time
man, not again
hoarding stuff? you means they stock pile springter supplies?
That shit is really messed up.
yeah you heard the last time snow happen on Texas?
Just reminded me to check on someone I know is in a spot of TX that's just fucked.
Its fucked up for sure
Yep. Know a handful of people that were really going through the shit shit for a minute.
And nothing happened afterwards to fix it
power outages, city lit up like christmas tree
like healthcare
Mr Cruz gonna Cruise
I mean thats what happen when the people vote for individuality
Bc commonality is gaey
mfs talking about indv. vs collv. when 38k years from now we'll all be praying for my beloved
was trying to get pc 4 and rolled this. any recommendations on build?
"If I make life harder for everyone closer to the bottom, then I'll have an easier time getting to the top!" - Whoever the fuck that actively votes for shitheads that make them feel special before another funding cut to their livelihoods. :>
If you have power cycler 3 at least you can just run around with that and swap your supercharge
wht should replace block eff?
Carapace is optional
I'm in Texas right now for work. It snowed today
we have 3 southerner
Are you safe?
Or in a pvp area
That sounds exactly like a battle Royale to me
Just very slow
Do you guys have convoys of mad max style mauraders waging war on renewable energy infrastructure?
thats ohio
In the center of San Antonio is there a monolith that the locals refer to as the Icon of sin?
are you also in texas?
Do you need to wear respirators during the dust storms?
I'm not high enough level
why you assume texas is biggest dangerous place?
Its joke I don't think Texas is legitimately the chaos wastes
okay
The chaos wastes sound way better 
bringing chaos waste in darktide?
Man speaking of darktide
I matched with several really shit pubbies in a row ugh
Running off playing a different game
Dying constantly
then i play sedation, uprising in pubbies no problem.
is look like you missed some previous conversation
eh pretty alright
yes it is, is not my first language for english
Literally none of the slots are meta
But it's still a rebolver
So it's gonna slap
Ok I see
I just wanted to understand why you typed like that. Where are you from
german?
His typing dialect is believably european
scroll down you read it
I meant no offense. Your English is better than my Vietnamese that's for sure
wtf are you vietnamese too?
Haha no it's an expression
i don't get it
I don't speak a 2nd language at all
I was remarking on your ability to speak 2 languages
It was a compliment
i barely read or write only hear and speak
Very beautiful county in some spots
I'd want to see some of the countryside too
Gonna give it a rest for now. Headhunter III just refuses to appear.
Japan is a pricey tourist trap. And a lot of the locals wouldn't like me sadly. Gaijin
saw this https://youtu.be/e_c2zclati8?t=26
iFilm London Productions presents an exclusive interview with actor Devon Anderson. iFilm London's Kugan Cassius caught up with Devon at the 'Making Moves' launch party at Anaya, London. 'Making Moves' is the official soundtrack for sensational new British film 'Terry'.
cutthroat man
just sliding on my feed
im aware lot of tourist hater
since there's some mannerism rules apply in japan society
That Johnny Somali guy certainly didn't help in tourist perception.
tourist being tourist
Alot of Americans think they are king of the world so they can act however they want
And it creates a stereotype
yes
Especially our military
what with military?
oh, i see
They had a few bad fiascos
Marine murdered a taxi driver and the navy base shut completely down
No American military was allowed off base
cara or maniac or flak?
carapace
Crushers are carapace right?
that deem to be why heavily bad influence for american
yeah
yes
I think I might swap some of my guns from flak to carapace
like Logan Paul incident
I remember that. How embarrassing
it is
which ones?
good idea
I thought crushers were flak smh
Crushers all carapase, body and head
correct
flaks more just armor then light armor
mauler does have carapace on head
Which is where I aim at them UGH
I'm idiot

do body shot then
but there heads take less damage
Wait so I should shoot them in the chest?
along with being carapace
their chest is Flak

go to the psykanium and figure out if you do more shooting in the chest or the head
Gosh
easy to tell
Yeah
some guns will do same numbers for both flak and carapace
or at least close enough that hitting the weakspot is more damage than the loss to carapase
vrak can penetrate carapace?
Mark 7 can I think
with crits it melts crushers
damn

