#veteran-class

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untold mulch
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after all techheresy is trying to make new laspack batteries

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not new lasweapon patterns

low yacht
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The leman russ is a heavy tank?

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I mean I am assuming it depends on the variant

untold mulch
low yacht
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No there is mobile tanks.

untold mulch
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Define mobile KEKW_ogryn

low yacht
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They literally zoom at you.

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Some tanks don't have much armor and are designed with more speed in mind.

leaden grove
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and have wheels

untold mulch
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I am mostly sure stuff lighter than Leman Russ, are considered APCs or Armored Vehicles instead of tanks

low yacht
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That's a APC but some tanks do have wheels.

untold mulch
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But I think Leman Russ is just the average battle tank

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For all 40k cares

low yacht
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There was a Russian tank I do believe that had wheels and wasn't a apc.

untold mulch
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if you go lighter, you better be zooming

low yacht
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But wheeled tanks suck.

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There was only one and it got quickly replaced.

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I mean the tracks exist for a reason because wheels get stuck so easily.

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While they're mobile mud must be hellish for them.

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Wheeled tanks only do good on solid soil and roads. And probably at fortification of postions.

slate sleet
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i dont think real world logic can ever be applied to 40k

sacred spindle
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That way lies madness

low yacht
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I mean if you have big wheels it doesn't matter.

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Big wheels on a tank easily prevents that.

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And people like big wheels

slate sleet
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the leman russ is modeled after ww1 tanks

thick wolf
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is boltgun great for vet?

fresh grail
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well yeah, the reason they have big barrels is because its a tabletop model tank. But its fun to discuss for in-universe reasons

slate sleet
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the entire point of the shape the leman russ has is to drive over trenches

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since guard use trench warfare a whole lot

placid portal
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Boltgun slaps with a crit build

fresh grail
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Boltgun slaps with a crit build Praydge

low yacht
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Or just killing fields.

placid portal
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Yea, since you have to slap the gun before firing

low yacht
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Then it turns into medieval combat.

placid portal
thick wolf
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I've been hunting a Boltgun and the game doesn't give me it, nevermind that it wasn't on Brunt's list either

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so my only option is to snatch a profane version

low yacht
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Getting caught in a killing field

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Doesn't sound like fun.

untold mulch
placid portal
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It can put down most things with one shot

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but dogs?

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nah

fresh grail
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its the best fun 💪

compact oak
slate sleet
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its outclassed by plasma for boss damage

untold mulch
slate sleet
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outclassed by nearly every other gun for chaff killing

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the niche it has is that it kills everything but its a very whiny weapon to use

low yacht
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Zwinger the killing zone of aa castle.

untold mulch
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eh, it does not need to be 1º

fresh grail
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its very bulky is the main downside

placid portal
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Sights are pretty atrocious imo

untold mulch
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as long as it can be used without feeling like you are handicapping yourself

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gun good

placid portal
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Worse than IAG sights

slate sleet
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weapon customization mod exists

placid portal
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Thank goodness it exists

low yacht
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To be honest I use melee more so uh.

placid portal
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Melee is fun

slate sleet
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bolter is one of the few guns for vet that feels like its actively trying to fight you for control

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its one of the few guns i really dont like using

low yacht
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I only use my plasma gun with targets that need to die mostly I am cutting down enemies.

placid portal
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it's worse when you don't 1 shot enemies you usually one shot for some forsaken reasoning

low yacht
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Like big guys I cannot kill with me sword easily like crushers.

thick wolf
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I'm mainly a lasgun and revolver guy, and even if I'm level 30 I'm still trying out as much weaponry as I could

low yacht
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So I just charge my plasma gun into crushers mostly.

placid portal
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Laspistol is nice

slate sleet
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vet has a very big gun variety

fresh grail
untold mulch
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I want to use lasguns but I do not vibe with the FS design decisions for them

thick wolf
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tried the laspistol, it's alright

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I like it mainly for its really fast reload

low yacht
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Does plasma explode?

untold mulch
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With shocktrooper you reload fast and once per fight KEKW_ogryn

placid portal
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the mk10 variant has insane flak modifier

thick wolf
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but I still prefer using the ia lasgun

low yacht
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I haven't risked it yet.

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But it gets really hot.

placid portal
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it can if you use charged shot

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but uncharged shots cooldown before firing

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so spam lights all the way with blaze away + it gets hot

low yacht
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I played Pskyer first so I just don't let it get 100%.

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I just melee to let it cool down then use it when needed.

placid portal
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yea but plasma literally stops you from overcharging if using light fire

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which is insane

low yacht
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I mean to be honest I used melee more then anything

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Melee saves so much ammo.

placid portal
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Who don't?

untold mulch
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I say 100% should explode you anyways on all modes

And Overcharge have some AOE

low yacht
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Like psyker?

placid portal
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Wounds Vet build with kamikaze Plasmagun

low yacht
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Your gun just blows up.

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Imagine you could just overload helbore.

compact oak
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Throwing the overcharged plasma gun at your enemies as it explodes

untold mulch
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is a risk

placid portal
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You can overcharge all your lasguns no?

untold mulch
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Lucius lasguns can overheat to dangerous levels to the user

low yacht
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Is a risk but krieg doing this would be common.

sacred spindle
untold mulch
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is not normal for lasguns to go that far

placid portal
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Just normally don't bc hardron gets angy when we break the weapons

untold mulch
sacred spindle
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That's a capital offense that is

untold mulch
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but Lucius doubles down on the overcharge

low yacht
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I mean the battle of Vraks many died to mortar fire but they broke through the lines from sheer numbers.

steep harbor
placid portal
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Nonono, Using your weapon to overcharge to use as an improvised grenade

sacred spindle
low yacht
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Vraks sucks probably got trench foot from being on that shitty planet.

placid portal
compact oak
untold mulch
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Is a very hated weapon for troops KEKW_ogryn

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Gloves are obligatory for its use

low yacht
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Gloves?

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Is this why we wear gloves.

untold mulch
steep harbor
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well, it'll be like my opinion on plasma guns. best for guardsman C: either your enemy is vaporized or you are but at least you won't be a drukhari's plaything C:

low yacht
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I would like krieg grenades their WW2 designed nades.

placid portal
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Which one?

low yacht
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I forget the name of the specific grenade it's like a frag.

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The stick frag grenades

placid portal
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Ah

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Those are nice

compact oak
placid portal
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It'd Be hilarious if we can buy cosmetics for your Blitz

steep harbor
low yacht
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Found it

untold mulch
low yacht
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These.

placid portal
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These reminds me of another grenade in Gears of war

low yacht
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The German Grenades.

untold mulch
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I prefer the pinapple surprises tbh

placid portal
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I like the canned explosive design

low yacht
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I might have said Austrians weren't german in a way.

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They're still related to Germans.

placid portal
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pretty sure there's a shorter stick variant from the russians

placid portal
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ye

untold mulch
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Never have seen it

low yacht
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But Austrians and Germans are similar like Ukraine and Russia.

untold mulch
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I think

low yacht
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They have a shared past.

placid portal
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I saw it in Call of Duty 2

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Fun stuff back in the ol 2010s

low yacht
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Stielhandgranate is the name of that grenade.

placid portal
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Russian campaign but you only get so little and pick up the german grenades instead

low yacht
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Which means stick hand grenade.

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Germany loved their stick hand grenades.

untold mulch
thick wolf
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even if I already reached the level 30 cap I still feel like a complete newbie

placid portal
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Isn't it because some people like throwing hand axes on targets making them easier to learn like how grenades in other countries are round because they play baseball?

thick wolf
low yacht
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Yeah they're thrown like throwing axes.

placid portal
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Yea handaxe throwing is a cool past time athletics

low yacht
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Like this.

untold mulch
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THat still is danger close homie

low yacht
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Just a example of how they were thrown assuming they're impact grenadess

placid portal
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Forgot the lethal range and fragmentation but the terrain is likely dug in so the fragmentation wont reach

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also movie prop and preparation likely

low yacht
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Oh they worked in the trenches.

placid portal
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Definitely

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You can ask that to the Trenchshotgun

low yacht
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Imagine getting mad over a shotgun.

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When you have flamethrowers.

placid portal
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Chemical weapons

low yacht
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Mustard Gas

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Don't get me started on the parasites and flesh eating amoeba that live in trenches

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Brain eating I mean.

placid portal
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Hoo boy

untold mulch
low yacht
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There was a trench of people who got infected by a nasty parasite that killed them.

placid portal
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Gotta love the italians making the 2nd semi auto shotgun in the world

dire lagoon
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So i just replaced the power sword with the devil sword and I feel like devil sword is waaaaaaaay better, anyone else think PS not that great?

low yacht
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Trenches scare me.

placid portal
fresh grail
low yacht
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They're all nice and warm until you step into a puddle of water and get some parasite.

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We all getting trench foot here and having wet feet.

placid portal
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No matter how far in the future, artillery is still king

dire lagoon
low yacht
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Now we need pigeons

placid portal
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unless parrying overheads

low yacht
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40k with messenger pigeons.

placid portal
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but it's servitor skulls

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even in death you still deliver

dire lagoon
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@placid portal any suggestions for second change on claw sword? I feel pretty ok with blessings, thinking if changing a perk to dmg vs unarmored for all in horde clear.

low yacht
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Flying courier

placid portal
dire lagoon
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yeah don't have any rampage atm

low yacht
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I need a New Vegas story with a servo skull.

placid portal
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no worries

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you can choose flak or maniac for one of your perks

dire lagoon
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or shred + rampage? I just wait for rampage to pop up.

low yacht
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I choose both

placid portal
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Maniac iirc allow you to 1 shot muties with heavy 1 with mk4

low yacht
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I choose flak and maniac on everything

fresh grail
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Extra cleave is very noticeable

placid portal
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He only has 1 mod slot

low yacht
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Flak and Maniac is all you need.

dire lagoon
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yeah only 1

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I think shred + devestating strike was a pretty cool synergy

placid portal
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maniac allow lets you do the funny parry headshot bp on rager right?

low yacht
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You can just slide and slash.

placid portal
low yacht
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You cannot block.

astral dagger
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Flak do more damage to flak armor and maniac well in it's name one tap a muties?

untold mulch
low yacht
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Because the rager hits you over and over again.

umbral scaffold
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You should block and slide vs maniac

low yacht
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So it's better to dodge and keep your toughness and then slash him if you are more mobile

placid portal
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but more satisfying to parry em

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only if 1v1

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multiple makes it harder

low yacht
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Dodging is fun too.

dire lagoon
low yacht
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I like juking the rager.

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It's funny.

untold mulch
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I need to use the Dclaw and go full sekiro

placid portal
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My Reaction to Ragers in 99% games

umbral scaffold
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But good luck staggering it

low yacht
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I do it a lot

umbral scaffold
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Same

astral dagger
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Can rager almost one tap you if it's higher diff yes

placid portal
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The 1%

low yacht
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Just charge your plasma gun if you get mad enough

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That's what I do.

dire lagoon
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so far dclaw is my fav melee.. still trying to get a decent chain sword to try that out... I don't really like the powersword even with cycle4

umbral scaffold
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I find that push attack sword is just
Consistent

placid portal
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mk4 has good hoarde cleaving moveset

umbral scaffold
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New psword is just op

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Apart from shit dodge

placid portal
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but lacks single target lights

low yacht
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I'm trying to get my heavy sword leveled up so I can fight ragers.

placid portal
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MK7 has really good single target combo

low yacht
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Because I am using catachan claw sword.

placid portal
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I think you can do a push attack light combo against a mutie and kill

dire lagoon
low yacht
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Claw sword is fun

placid portal
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Claw is super fun

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glad it's very good

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it was meh pre patch 13 iirc

low yacht
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But the power sword is better

fresh grail
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Fun is the most important stat Praydge

placid portal
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I mean yea, it's a literal space energy sword vs a literal cleaver

untold mulch
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God I love Sekiro combat

dire lagoon
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Cadia Mk XIIIg Assault Chainsword is also good for horde clear?

placid portal
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is that the new one?

fresh grail
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With cleave blessings ye

untold mulch
low yacht
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It would be more like dark souls

strange sparrow
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It’s alright

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Not the best but it’s doable

dire lagoon
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This moveset

low yacht
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Dark Souls is more fitting for 40k

strange sparrow
untold mulch
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Farseer 40k soulslike

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Dying is seeing possible futures

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Hire me GW

placid portal
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Lawsuit
then take your idea

untold mulch
strange sparrow
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Lawsuit then ask you to work for them or die

untold mulch
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Good ol GW

umbral scaffold
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But it's not the worst downside

placid portal
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I love chainaxe

umbral scaffold
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Crushers quake in fear at the push stab light

placid portal
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mk4 specifically

umbral scaffold
low yacht
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It's like medication

placid portal
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I don't know the new one feels off because it doesn't saw them in lights

low yacht
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Killing heretics is the only cure for sadness.

placid portal
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Heretic blood quells my depression

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But mk4 Chainaxe feels so damn satisfying

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got mine a Headtaker + Slaughter setup

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challenge ragers with light attacks since the shredder part staggers em to death

strange sparrow
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I just want to see a loyalist space marine in Tertium

low yacht
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I'm doing a scion build

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So I am using power sword and plasma

placid portal
strange sparrow
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We’re like some rescue squadron trying to recover something and suddenly a space marine busted down the door

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Informing that he’s taking over this operation something

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Then AI start wilding out

low yacht
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Maybe sisters of battle?

placid portal
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Which space marine chapter would even deem Atoma Prime worthy of aiding

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Minus salamanders

strange sparrow
low yacht
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Not Dark Angels

placid portal
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Likely Sisters since Saint Messelina

strange sparrow
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Tiberius

low yacht
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Ad Mech

umbral scaffold
low yacht
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Imagine the Ad Mech helping us.

umbral scaffold
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It would not be that weird

placid portal
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oh definitely ad mech would go in play for atoman metals

strange sparrow
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Funnily throw a space shark in

umbral scaffold
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But you'd need a good reason

low yacht
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I mean we are near

umbral scaffold
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And at best it'd be like
1-3 marines at best lol

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Usually

low yacht
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The Eye of Terror

umbral scaffold
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Funny enough one of Abnett's works had that exact situation

strange sparrow
low yacht
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And well Cadia is in the domain.

umbral scaffold
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3 marines from 3 different chapters band together to kick ass

strange sparrow
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I MEANNNN

umbral scaffold
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And considering Abnett wrote the uhh

placid portal
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oh shit

umbral scaffold
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"story"

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I wouldn't be surprised if a similar idea came up

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I need to reread gaunt's ghosts again

low yacht
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Imagine Cadian veterans help us.

placid portal
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forgot how atoma is close to eye of terror since they talk about the Robert's Crusade and the Sicadic Maladictum

strange sparrow
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Please no Lamenters

celest vine
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Maybe iron hands

strange sparrow
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That mean they would actually need to die

umbral scaffold
strange sparrow
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at the end of the mission

umbral scaffold
low yacht
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Because there is many cadian veterans alive

muted knot
placid portal
celest vine
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Iron hands definitely

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Moebian iron and the mechanicus presence

strange sparrow
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Tbh, the allies space marine could also be injured and we are trying to help him you know

low yacht
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I'm doubtful we are getting the boys in blue

strange sparrow
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turn into a defense mission

low yacht
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Or we get a whole krieg legion

strange sparrow
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Imagine he just killed a death guard and half way dead

celest vine
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Dark Angels show up for some rare tech

strange sparrow
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and we're there to "defend him"

low yacht
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Krieg scared chaos marines

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Send them in

placid portal
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Well Krieg did offer to send their men to the most absolute horrible work conditions

celest vine
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Probably theyd not even bother, a regiment of scions is more likely

strange sparrow
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The Battle of Vraks truly show how tryhard these people would be

low yacht
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They did all that to retake a factory

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So uh.

placid portal
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Vraks Forge world kinda big shit innit?

low yacht
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Knowing the Imperium it isn't crazy that they want their world back.

strange sparrow
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And these casualties for Krieg probably meant nothing

low yacht
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Even a world like Tertium is important

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Atoma Prime

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I meant

celest vine
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Fenris is close by too

placid portal
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Apparently there's a sister hive mentioned

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🤔

celest vine
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If we assume the domain is south of the eye of terror

low yacht
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I mean Vraks isn't too far off either

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If I recall from the eye of terror

celest vine
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Its north of the eye

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So is what used to be caliban

low yacht
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It's not next to it but it's close.

celest vine
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Medusa is close

strange sparrow
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Remember The Siege of Vraks is just

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fourteen million Guardsmen of Krieg

celest vine
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Fuck it red scorpions from out of no where

strange sparrow
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18 terran years

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34 krieg regiments deployment

low yacht
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It was just cheaper

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And would take less time

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To send several children in to die.

strange sparrow
celest vine
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No reinforcements unfortunatly

strange sparrow
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It have nothing left after the Siege

celest vine
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But mars does know whats going on

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If hadron can send a request for more material and get denied

low yacht
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Vraks was seen as important the factories were underground

strange sparrow
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Nothing of Value was gained from the battle except thy Swift Vengeances upon Traitor

low yacht
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So they were safe from explosions.

celest vine
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A daemonworld was prevented from forming

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Would have been a real issue if that formed

strange sparrow
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That is true to a certain extend

low yacht
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Most of Vraks factories are what were so important and being a holy site of a saint

strange sparrow
celest vine
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Its why the ordo malleus actually got involved, cause a full chaos world would have been far worse to deal with

strange sparrow
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Most of Vraks now suck because of le war

low yacht
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Maybe having all those imprisoned psykers wasn't a good idea.

compact oak
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Considering the setting, it makes sense that they would try to take it back, even if most of it had a chance to be destroyed in the process. A factory on that scale is worth a lot more than a bunch of line troops with artillery and a bit of armor

strange sparrow
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maybe it was a good idea that they send a better assassinators member down for Xaphan

celest vine
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Vraks isnt a factory

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It has some factories

low yacht
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The factories were safe but the surface wasn't destroyed

celest vine
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Its an armory world first and foremost

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With ancient archeotech stored in its armories

low yacht
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The underground factories were so important too.

strange sparrow
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Vraks Prime was reduced to a barren wasteland, and it and its surrounding star system were declared Perdita

low yacht
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They wanted the armory though

thick wolf
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how viable laspistols are in Heresy and Damnation?

low yacht
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The surface of Vraks most of these are underground

compact oak
low yacht
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Most worlds like that are wastelands

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Most hive worlds are just wastelands.

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So are many armory worlds

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I mean not even from war just then clearing off everything to build and getting rid of oceans.

thick wolf
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and what are the advantages of lugging around with a laspistol on both Heresy and Damnation

low yacht
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Industrialization was common I guess.

sharp ember
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won’t flatten ogryns like a revolver would, but higher mag capacity to clear out shooters

low yacht
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This is why you got grenades.

sullen merlin
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Got 3 vets in a single game, 2 of us ran the officer tag thing and ammo aura. We had a hellbore, the hotshot lasgun and a plasma gun. 2 of us had Krak grenades. Game felt easy mode lol......

low yacht
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I use frags

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I like the bleed effect

compact oak
low yacht
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Vraks was in good enough condition to continue manufacturing never cared about it looking pretty.

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What's worth beauty if you can make more weapons and provide your military with arms.

compact oak
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Got resort and shrine worlds etc. for that

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Agri worlds are arguably also up there compared to some of the other stuff

low yacht
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Agri worlds are better then forge worlds

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By a long shot still demanding though.

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I'd rather be able to breathe somewhat clean air.

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Being choked by thick smoke and smog and probably acid rain.

muted knot
sacred spindle
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I think Abnett has written a fairly grimdark description of an agri-world in one of the eisenhorn books

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Imagine the worst excesses of industrialised agriculture on earth, then put it through the lens of 40k

manic summit
silk nexus
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Best perks and blessings for accatran?

muted knot
manic summit
muted knot
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Right

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I member

silk nexus
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^ ifits the one im thinking of it was some kind of hellish servitor

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but lads tis is vet chat not lore chat

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help me out

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Best perks and blessings for accatran?

pastel geode
muted knot
silk nexus
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Base one MkII

bitter turtle
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Accatran what

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Laspistol?

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Recon?

muted knot
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Recon id guess

pastel geode
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Recon las

bitter turtle
muted knot
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Probably Elysian cosplay

silk nexus
muted knot
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Dum dum and whatever really

bitter turtle
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Best build is pick up a Grey columnus that outdmgs it

pastel geode
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Honestly for me I’d put dum dum on it to counterbalance the reverse fall of damage

silk nexus
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laser > bullets

bitter turtle
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Headhunter dumdum/infernus if you insist

manic summit
muted knot
manic summit
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particularly with headhunter

bitter turtle
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Also there's the pewpew mod

muted knot
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Get the pew pew mod

bitter turtle
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U can just make the iag shoot laser

muted knot
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Or loose your index finger

pastel geode
bitter turtle
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Not that mod

muted knot
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Not that mod ?

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Oh

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The animation one ?

bitter turtle
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It's the one that let's ur animations yeah

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Put laser on iag and pretend it's recon

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Best recon build

muted knot
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Fair enough

silk nexus
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modifying sanctified technology????

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wtf

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sounds like heresy

pastel geode
bitter turtle
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You don't want to run infernus without headhunter

pastel geode
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But is it heresy if a tech priest gives the okay?

junior needle
silk nexus
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recon

junior needle
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Eww

silk nexus
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Listen here

junior needle
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I highly recommend avoiding the entire gun line currently as they're severely undertuned, but the 2 is the worst one dps wise.

pastel geode
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Some people are just super drawn to the recon’s style

junior needle
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Yeah, I am too

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They're just dogshit

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I complain about it for most of the games lifespan and it doesnt get fixed

pastel geode
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Maybe but I can still clear auric with one

junior needle
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So now I inform people before they spend money on it

bitter turtle
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I made two 570+ 6ds when they were good

junior needle
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That's not exactly hard, people can solo auric

bitter turtle
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Lul

silk nexus
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its too nice with scion helmet/aesthetic

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sue me

bitter turtle
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🧑‍⚖️

pastel geode
#

Aight, lemme call my lawyer

junior needle
#

Well, I'll post some informational videos and you can judge for yourself.

junior needle
bitter turtle
#

Just plant some forged evidence and have Phoenix btfo himself

#

Ez

silk nexus
#

COUNTER SUE CLAIM

junior needle
#

You can get a sicknasty 465 baseline dps against maniacs

#

at optimal range

pastel geode
#

Bullets ball harder than lasers imo

junior needle
#

I'm not kidding when I say the mk2 is absolute dogshit

#

Worst gun in the game

pastel geode
#

Then why does ranick use a revolver?

junior needle
#

He knows it's OP

silk nexus
junior needle
#

ciag is a finesse weapon btw

dire agate
#

Because he doesn't care as long as the heretic dies.

silk nexus
#

what about for perks for recon

dire agate
#

The Critical hit ammo save is a god send for recon las.

pastel geode
#

Hadron probably dreams of arc and radium rifles

junior needle
#

If you insist, 5% crit and either flak or maniac. Or flak/maniac. Headhunter is mandatory, then you can choose either infernus or the bugged dumdum. Please do not use a mk2 in damnation

dire agate
junior needle
#

And any recon lasgun underperforms very noticeably in auric+

pastel geode
silk nexus
#

i use em no problem

dire agate
#

its just perfect for the imperium.

#

😛

pastel geode
#

True lol

junior needle
#

They underperform in regular damnation but if you just don't care it's easier to scrape by

dire agate
#

Recon las, critical hit/weakpoint ammo save is good, as well as the adjoining extra crit chance on the right side (i think, i'd have to check again.)

#

great for horde clearing and shooter clearance.

sullen merlin
#

I FUCKING HATE CONSOLE PLAYERS

silk nexus
#

lmao

#

grug

sullen merlin
#

Can they finally make it so PC players dont need to que with these mouthbreaking dipshits?

silk nexus
#

were you just on in the last hour Aus?

junior needle
silk nexus
#

because im pretty sure I saw you say you were ready in chat

pastel geode
junior needle
dire agate
#

heavy las has a two person pen.

silk nexus
#

you dont need penetration when you fire like two gajillion shots a seconds

dire agate
#

with the criticals and crit ammo save, horde clearing is fine.

junior needle
#

It's not

dire agate
#

not so good against anything else on damn. though.

sullen merlin
#

You dont need to be good for heresy....

dire agate
#

better off with the kantrael

fresh grail
#

aiming at headheight with crit blessings is fine hordeclear

junior needle
#

You shouldn't be shooting into melee chaffe to avoid using your melee weapon

delicate estuary
#

chainsword is shared weaponr ight

dire agate
#

Cadian one i think is?

junior needle
#

You could get away with it in patch 13 with unscuffed shocktrooper but not now

junior needle
dire agate
#

don't use chainsword enough, i run round with combat knife.

pastel geode
dire agate
silk nexus
#

you should be shooting because its fun

dire agate
#

🤷

#

on high difficulty, the recon las either way, is pretty niche.

manic summit
pastel geode
dire agate
#

xD

junior needle
untold mulch
#

You think promethium smells better than the fuel station smell?

#

I have no idea why gasoline smells good

dire agate
#

Oh bother. xD

silk nexus
manic summit
silk nexus
#

i pick stuff purely on aesthetics and how fun it is to use

pastel geode
#

Patch 13 was disco ball time lol

dire agate
#

Same sort of thing with capped rending and capped burn stacks.

fresh grail
pastel geode
dire agate
#

I do a bit of 50/50. Faff around builds, and efficiency builds.

junior needle
#

I'm here to inform

silk nexus
#

If you play Ogryn this will cure you of meta chasing

pastel geode
#

Everything is meta on ogryn

silk nexus
#

Ogryn is just fun, no matter the build; i spend time roleplaying mid auric

dire agate
#

Da Bomb. yeets mini nuke.

junior needle
#

Not using the most dogshit gun in the game is meta chasing KEKW_ogryn

untold mulch
silk nexus
#

if we collect the scripture you better believe im gonna ask to tell me a story

white minnow
#

well, there's a reason why any build works on ogryn...

silk nexus
#

If teammate is hopelessly lost and its objectively better to leave them too bad

#

i krump the bad green man because makes emprah happy

dire agate
untold mulch
junior needle
manic summit
untold mulch
silk nexus
#

no enemies left when i drop me boom rock, have to get sah up

pastel geode
#

My favorite type of ogryn bros are the shield ones that know how to play as a team

junior needle
silk nexus
#

i mean why not test it on its actual target which is shooters and horde clear

silk nexus
#

that would be like pointing recon at armoured ogryns and concluding "this is shit"

manic summit
junior needle
#

Because mainline weapons aren't meant to be only used on shooters and melee chaffe?

pastel geode
#

Had a legend of an ogryn put his shield down in a doorway that was getting suppressed and ate up all the rounds while we picked off the gunners

junior needle
#

And I shouldn't have to explain the difference between shooting a crusher and shooting maniacs

untold mulch
#

I mainly use Agri auto, and even if its dps is not much superior to Recon, the stagger/and suppression it does + considerably better in ammo efficiency

#

And recoil is a non-issue unless is your first FPS

silk nexus
junior needle
untold mulch
#

but the extras make it so worth

junior needle
untold mulch
#

Sadly yes

junior needle
#

These are not mutually exclusive

#

Plenty of great guns handle both very well

silk nexus
untold mulch
#

What is gonna kill your runs, is not the horde

Is the 3 trappers,2 Bombers, 4 Maulers on the corner

silk nexus
#

ive never had a problem on auric because of taking recons

junior needle
#

These guns are actually very terrible

pastel geode
#

Let’s all agree it’s criminal we still don’t have a hellgun or a melta

silk nexus
#

all builds can work even if some are meta and some are not

junior needle
#

Probably because you're offloading the burden onto your team KEKW_ogryn

junior needle
#

It's not even a matter of builds, the guns just suck numerically. They are objectively much worse than alternatives.

untold mulch
#

I heard someone saying this morning of maybe turning down the damage but give Recon a shit ton of Finnese

fresh grail
#

its about fun, not about running powersword plasma gun every game

pastel geode
#

What about the mk7a over the mk2?

junior needle
untold mulch
fresh grail
#

Not when people ask about what perks to put on a recon clearly, they just want to build a usable recon gun

untold mulch
#

If you find fun in Recon

#

great, fantastic for you

junior needle
untold mulch
#

but, stats wise, is a pretty shit gun that the talents and blessings turn up to decent

fresh grail
#

my standards is can it clear an auric run yes/no

#

and for all guns the answer is yes

untold mulch
#

if you can roll with that? Fantastic

finite imp
#

?? Do people not like being able to kill elites before their teammates can? The recons TTK is like waiting for the bus :\

junior needle
#

You can clear auric in your starting gear and by doing literally nothing if your team carries you

tiny summit
untold mulch
#

Wait 3 bussiness day for the Mauler to die

junior needle
finite imp
#

im sorry. I really am but there's no salvaging that weapon right now

#

they need to buff it so bad

untold mulch
#

Hell, a Playtester stated they want to rework it

But Fatshark in their infinite stupidity nerfed it first

tiny summit
#

When I was doing Exe MF Recon last week, there was a CIAG vet in the party a few times. Damn...guess he was like "thanks for softening them a lil"

silk nexus
silk nexus
#

telling me its shit doesnt answer my question

untold mulch
junior needle
silk nexus
#

it got answered eventually

untold mulch
#

Or at least didn't pay attention to it

pastel geode
#

There’s a lot of hatred for the gun

junior needle
#

But you got a fair warning about what you're getting into

finite imp
#

were literally trying to save you time

silk nexus
#

it doesnt

finite imp
#

it does

silk nexus
#

because im not a meta nerd

#

i run what i want to run because its fun

#

as my inner dr seuss would say

junior needle
#

Regardless of your contrarian tendencies, doing abysmally low dps tends to not be fun.

finite imp
#

well we don't eat green eggs and ham here

silk nexus
#

i dont believe in chasing meta anyway, because just like tabletop it changes

sharp ember
#

i would not eat it in a box, i would not eat it with a fox

untold mulch
#

God I hate how people throw the word Meta with no braincells around

There is meta that would be like saying USE CIAG INSTEAD

And there is this is actualyl dogshit

silk nexus
#

just use what you think is cool

junior needle
untold mulch
#

Hell I used VIIa for the first months of release before dropping hte game

#

I want them to be good

finite imp
#

This is like asking how can I optimally queue for damnation as a level 12

junior needle
#

I have multiple gigarolled 6d's

#

I want these guns to be good

#

I wasted so much resources chasing the guns for them to be dogshit for nearly the entire games lifespan

junior needle
sharp ember
#

i can trust recons to clear shooters sure enough, but a rager pack is gonna make them sweat where an IAG would mow them down

untold mulch
silk nexus
#

lol

lusty jetty
#

Alright I'm convinced the Darktide Breakpoint Calculator is lying

finite imp
#

the most cursed build list

untold mulch
#

I swear

#

I hate using "Build" pages KEKW_ogryn

junior needle
sharp ember
untold mulch
#

I will use my points like a dumbass

tiny summit
# silk nexus can i ask do you play tabletop?

Running non-meta and dogshit stuff in other games can be fun. Hell I do have some minor enjoyment with its pissing lasers. But that's it. You can run the gun. Anyone can clear aurics with mostly anything. They offered perks but are giving a fair warning on the weapon if you are playing damn+. The gun is underwhelming. For most people using an underwhelming gun isn't fun. Do what you want.

fresh grail
#

We twinned blast enjoyers will never be slaves to the meta 💪

untold mulch
finite imp
#

it's never going to happen

lusty jetty
untold mulch
junior needle
lusty jetty
#

Oh

#

Duh

untold mulch
lusty jetty
#

Right it wouldn't know about that

junior needle
lusty jetty
#

Okay I am dumb nevermind

fresh grail
sharp ember
#

lmao good work everyone

tiny summit
junior needle
#

Probably from patch 13

lusty jetty
#

Spending any amount of time on reddit should tell you how useful upvotes are

finite imp
#

dingus

tiny summit
sharp ember
#

and the nail got hammered down for sticking out

finite imp
pastel geode
#

I’ll look at build pages for some games to learn what works and then try to figure out how to tweak it for my own purposes

finite imp
#

updated 2 months ago

tiny summit
#

Take the filter off

fresh grail
#

everybody googling veteran builds and ending up there, oblivious to the patch notes aniblobsweat

finite imp
silk nexus
#

accatran second most upvoted damnation or higher build

finite imp
#

updated
2
months
ago

placid portal
#

how it feels to attempt to push a pox burster when your teammates shoot it

finite imp
#

now sort by recently updated

tiny summit
#

It has to be a troll build post right?

junior needle
silk nexus
#

heres a question

finite imp
silk nexus
placid portal
#

ye

#

*oh wait

finite imp
#

pr sure rending strikes just says hits

fresh grail
#

+10% rending to all attacks, including nade bleeds and such

finite imp
#

ye

fresh grail
#

fatshark is famously inconsistent with its terminology

tiny summit
junior needle
placid portal
#

Misread as does rending strike work on melee

silk nexus
#

so including shooting

placid portal
silk nexus
#

cool

fresh grail
#

rending strikes i always take when i have bleed nades, it's very noticeable damage buff.
Also for all the other weapons you bring too of course

finite imp
#

Usually people use 😂 when they're pretending not to be pissed

junior needle
#

Good catch

finite imp
#

but sometimes its KEKW_ogryn

junior needle
#

Poor guy probably updated it before he realized the undocumented changes

#

and never touched it again

delicate estuary
#

levelling new zealot with no BM rashad

#

is pain

junior needle
#

Just grab a knoife

delicate estuary
#

cant

#

level 1

junior needle
#

Brudal

delicate estuary
#

c

#

:C

finite imp
#

the rashad axe feels so slow 😦

#

i use trench fighter and it feels like noodle arms

delicate estuary
#

its good when you get blessings on it but elvel 1 is pain

pastel geode
placid portal
#

Hammer carrying my dumbass to level 30

tiny summit
#

"Overpowered Rending"

placid portal
delicate estuary
#

fuck the emperor honestly

#

unlucky

untold mulch
placid portal
#

I sniff the copium

finite imp
untold mulch
#

Homie playing on sedition

strange grove
delicate estuary
#

ya ya I will just dont have access to shop at level 1

tiny summit
finite imp
#

guess we were all wrong guys

#

pack it in

delicate estuary
#

started a second zeralot to farm special weapon blessings as I am done with vet

#

time to get to level 15 with T3 missions and then just go T5

#

not gonna bother with T4 💀

pastel geode
#

I have one of each and keeping the 5th one open in case a new class does drop

fresh grail
#

If they've leved a few characters to 30 i'm sure they have the skill to handle regular damnation with any level just fine

tiny summit
#

Base damns are pretty chill

delicate estuary
#

ye base damns are very chill

sterile wadi
#

Hey Sunrise

finite imp
#

yes

tiny summit
finite imp
#

hello

#

how can i help

delicate estuary
#

also

#

the pisspistol

#

🤮

sterile wadi
# finite imp how can i help

Well you see, there's a mutant that spawns on me while I'm in a horde with my keyboard unplugged and my monitor off, and my headphones are backwards and I'm out of stamina. How can I argue with you that it's not my fault

delicate estuary
#

guys look at this sick butterknife

finite imp
pastel geode
#

Oh god that conversation

sterile wadi
#

Erm. 🤓

finite imp
#

no not that one

#

the other one

junior needle
finite imp
#

the one in the wheelchair

#

with no arms

sterile wadi
#

Oh that's me

#

It's the games fault obv

finite imp
#

thumbsup_ogryn

pastel geode
#

Dude was a freaking psyker trying to ask vets what he did wrong

junior needle
sterile wadi
#

I was thinking about that conversation while I was playing last night

junior needle
#

And he takes mercy killer

#

For the antisynergy

finite imp
#

ive just been cleaning my hobby brushes this am

sharp ember
delicate estuary
#

there we go fixed loadout

sharp ember
#

2 to the chest, and 1 to the head, just to make sure, that heretic is dead

pastel geode
#

I think I might farm plasteel today and see if hadron bricks this graia iag

sterile wadi
finite imp
#

Staring at the blank page before you
Open up the dirty window
Let the sun illuminate the words that you could not find

#

REACHING FOR SOMETHING IN THE DISTANCE

#

SO CLOSE YOU CAN ALMOST TASTE IT

sterile wadi
finite imp
#

RELEASE YOUR INHIBITIONS
FEEL THE RAIN ON YOUR SKINLETSFUCKINGGOOOOOOOOO

sharp ember
finite imp
pastel geode
#

You know what the worst part about patrolling atoma is?

#

It never snows

finite imp
#

makes you wish for a nuclear winter

sterile wadi
#

I love the smell of virus bomb in the morning

slate sleet
#

lethal dose of cringe

finite imp
#

snackrolling in the mojavelicious fillmost make you satiwish for a nuclear whunger

untold mulch
#

I vaguely remember Fallout lasers stated to leave smells of Ozone

Does lasguns do the same?

finite imp
#

i mean

#

it's hot light

pastel geode
#

Possibly

untold mulch
#

Idk those physics to know by head

untold mulch
finite imp
#

if you smell burnt ozone then the ozone is burning

delicate estuary
#

best voiceline vet with cadia?

pastel geode
#

All I know is a lasgun can canonically blow limbs off and cauterize the wounds instantly

fresh grail
#

the ones where he cries about cadia being blown up FeelsStrongMan

delicate estuary
#

I amc urrently planning the real end game

#

drip and voicelines

#

💀

fresh grail
#

driptide 😓

delicate estuary
#

almost done with farming all blessings so now I need to relevel characters with appropriate voicelines

pastel geode
#

I run female cadian cause I love the grizzled anger

untold mulch
#

nasty piece of weapon

#

Has killed 99% of enemies of Mankind

#

sadly the 1% remains

pastel geode
#

“Give them the old kasrkin double tap!”

thick wolf
untold mulch
#

CLOSE. KILL. AND DO IT AGAIN

#

Cutthroat + VoC

Instant morale boost

pastel geode
#

Fr

untold mulch
#

It could do no buff, the VA yelling motivates me enough

pastel geode
delicate estuary
#

now levelling a new zealot so I can farm eviscerator and THammer blessings 💀

#

gonna cost me like 50k plasteel minimum

untold mulch
finite imp
#

he did a good job

fresh grail
#

i want to hear them scream! peepoYell

sharp ember
#

MAUULAA D:<

#

or the dreaded SNIPER! DOWN DOWN

pastel geode
#

“The gamma 315 is slime!”

delicate estuary
#

being afraid of snipers

#

stinky

untold mulch
#

TRAXIS....SNIPER!

finite imp
#

This is hime btw

#

The VA

#

Devon Anderson

sharp ember
#

traxis.. 12???

pastel geode
#

Who does the female cutthroat

finite imp
#

doesn't even have a profile pic on IMDB

#

i had to dig a little

fresh grail
#

something... something with a net 😩

untold mulch
# finite imp

thumbsup_ogryn I hope he knows the community appreciates the sheer energy he managed

pastel geode
#

“Without me you’ll be dead in minutes!”

finite imp
#

not the face i would have imagined that voice coming out of

untold mulch
#

THERE IS ONLY WAR!

finite imp
#

he looks like such a nice man

untold mulch
#

OmegaGuardsmanHype LETS KARKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

finite imp
#

when i think of a cutthroat vet I think of a bald, cleanshaven smarmy british man covered in knicks and cuts and scars

thick wolf
#

cutthroat's va when doing voc

#

imma destroy my throat today

finite imp
#

whose teeth are messed up from combat

untold mulch
finite imp
#

and his face is curved into a permanent sneer

tiny summit
#

I think loose cannon could've gotten the codes right sometimes

fresh grail
#

traxis 12 💪

finite imp
#

his limbs are thin but taught with corded muscle

untold mulch
finite imp
#

this is a being who has become a sociopathic killing machine out of force

pastel geode
untold mulch
#

Also just me

#

or Loose Cannon they added more "bloodthirsty" voice lines recently?

#

Like, I am getting a lot of

wary galleon
#

zealot leaves, bot gets left behind. bot enters demonhost because pathfinding. we die.

thanks bot

untold mulch
#

"WE ARE SURROUNDED... YEAHHH!"

#

Like the tone is not like "oh great...frag this"

#

but like whatthefuck_heresy "Let them come"

wary galleon
#

reminds me of that meme

fresh grail
wary galleon
untold mulch
fresh grail
#

might aswell enjoy it before you get eaten by a beast of nurgle, or some other horrific death

untold mulch
#

The first two changes position sometimes

#

Only quote I consistently remember of Professional is the

#

FOR THE GOLDEN FRAGGING THRONE!

#

For some reason I find it so funny

serene sage
#

what the fuck, charge your phone, reply to your Discord messages, clear your notifs.
damn, you live like this?
inb4 you won't even see this from the whole notif mess KEKW_ogryn

thick wolf
#

you forgot to put GOLDEN in between THE and FRAG

untold mulch
untold mulch
thick wolf
#

WEAPONS UP, DRIVE EM BACK or FIGHT OR YOU ANSWER TO ME

#

man if only we can change voices

wary galleon
vernal harbor
wary galleon
#

how it see it KEKW_ogryn

untold mulch
placid portal
#

This is true

#

so real

#

where is ogryn?

wary galleon
#

i could not find place for him :d

placid portal
#

Rip

wary galleon
#

hes out eating the rations

pastel geode
#

Ogryn no have time to be meme when killin heretics for emprah

serene sage
#

ogryn this ogryn that

#

can you pay a little respect

pastel geode
#

We can appreciate the big bois now and then

wary galleon
#

i wish i could switch voices so bad, i love the brawlers way of saying EMPREH or BURSTEEH

fresh grail
#

oh i forgot my favorite: Show me your karking war faces peepoYell

serene sage
#

how tall are you, private

wary galleon
#

oh lol he dosent sound like he would look like in my mind at all

vernal harbor
#

its funny because on twitter hes always talking about arsenal and united

#

so he fits

#

cutthroat for sure

wary galleon
#

ah thats some Bri'ish OOligan footie clubs no?

untold mulch
wary galleon
#

CAM OON SCOOR SOM FAKKING GOOALS

untold mulch
#

or naturally his voice has no bearing with his looks

vernal harbor
#

promise you it comes out during a match

dreamy lantern
#

hes probably just from london