veteran-class

[terse idol]

No just for melee

[final stone]

if you see a mauler the downed teammate is unable to be rescued

you will not block the attack with stamina

[crude fiber]

even with max stam and block effieciency youll still get gaurd broke and take full dmage I THINK

[terse idol]

I don't like deadeye

[placid swan]

Ive been toying around with it since the big change...

[terse idol]

Hmm

[crude fiber]

same with mauler overheads i believe

[blazing veldt]

Anything more than like 3 crushers or 5 maulers you might get caught by them staggering overheads

[crude ermine]

Time to play helbore while listening to random ass music

[crude fiber]

though you can DC parry them for a bunch of stamina lol

[final stone]

invite me

[crude ermine]

Oo scab melee only mal

[final stone]

https://tenor.com/view/heavybreathing-cat-gif-6111353

[crude ermine]

Ok

What's your thing lmao

[serene sage]

EU?

[final stone]

my thing?

[crude ermine]

Fs code thingy

[final stone]

well when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much

maam

[crude ermine]

NO NO

[final stone]

I suggest a trip to the optometrist

it is literally staring you in the face

[crude ermine]

Oh..

[final stone]

:]

[blazing veldt]

his code is #veteran-class message

[final stone]

uuu 2 seconds

docket vendor been straight wilin the last half week or so

[blazing veldt]

you ever get a 10% damage revolver or just me

[crude ermine]

Yeah

[serene sage]

o cry

[final stone]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-simpsons-gif-21258017

[final stone]

I am in texas if that's what you mean

[blazing veldt]

highest quality burnt weapon

[crude ermine]

That'll work, I'm fit to play either Na or EU

[final stone]

I can connect to yurup well enough

[serene sage]

adddddddd meeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[final stone]

keep ya ping to yaself I don't need connectivity to get shot

[crude ermine]

Ok

[blazing veldt]

That's an interesting looking axe

[crude ermine]

Lmk when you're ready

[leaden grove]

thats just the 1h axe from vermintide

[crude ermine]

Actually if it's just scab melee I don't think I'll need helbore too much

[blazing veldt]

bayonet

[umbral scaffold]

ye don't try to fight overheads kek
that's asking to die

[final stone]

all the ranged enemies get subbed out for ragers, maulers, and crushers

[distant vessel]

anyone have a good veteran build pic?

[final stone]

instant on leet deleet is always a fresh twist on things

[blazing veldt]

Been playing with creature spawner to see if its theoretically possible to block

[leaden grove]

want heavy plasma gun

[crude ermine]

Where are your clothes

[serene sage]

sadge

[serene sage]

no

[crude ermine]

Wow

Probably should've just done NA because what the actual fuck were those two doing

[placid swan]

Is Covering Fire good now? Or not so much?

[crude ermine]

The zel and psyker

[final stone]

so, crushers and maulers amirite

[crude ermine]

Yeah

[final stone]

yeah I appreciate the jokes but uh

don't let em hit you

I think it's a rule

[crude ermine]

I won't this time

[crude fiber]

16 stam with max block efficiency (i think mk6 psword has innate better block as well?) if anyone was curious

[inland orchid]

Crusher:

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-give-a-shit-red-ellis-boyd-redding-morgan-freeman-the-shawshank-redemption-gif-23667569

[terse idol]

Aw man

🥹

Honestly

Darktide needs to redo the tutorial

[crude fiber]

vs min stam DC

[terse idol]

Because it doesn't even teach players you can't block overheads

[wet elk]

why tf the lucius rifle has a load animation everytime you pull it

makes its so janky man

what the hell

[inland orchid]

A lot of guns have anims like that just usually faster, with the exception being big guns

I.e plasma n bolter

[wet elk]

lucius looks like a light weapon

[terse idol]

Perfect parries evidentally trump all

[crude fiber]

well its good against every enemy type so they keep it in line by making it feel awful to use

[inland orchid]

Most lasguns look light yet can’t get quickdrawed like a revolver

[crude fiber]

is there a window to "perfect parry" that makes it cot no stamina? ive seen some people say that before

[serene sage]

and yet the plasma just doesn't give a shit

[inland orchid]

Always a lil bit of time before swapping before u can fire

[terse idol]

Iirc, uh right before the attack hits

But don't quote me on that

[sterile wadi]

be skab boss
be melee specialist
heh another reject I'll go slice him
he blocks all of his attacks
the other 3 are ganging up on my brother
what do I do

[terse idol]

Try to test a late Parry vs an early Parry timing

[wet elk]

is she gonna brick it lads

[terse idol]

Late as in

Right before it hits

And early as in

Parry while the attack comes in

[inland orchid]

Hadron works in fickle ways, so maybe and maybe not

[terse idol]

raking fire 1

Uh oh

[wet elk]

i guess its not bad?

[terse idol]

Oh thatsnnot bad

Imo

[wet elk]

hit&run is decent

[terse idol]

Me as a preface something bad or not bad with my opinion so I'm not liable for my bad opinion

I do legitimately thing it's good though

[wet elk]

i gonna try putting dmu dum on it

dum dum

i like it a bit more

[terse idol]

Do eet

[wet elk]

gotta get it first haha

only have level 3

[crude fiber]

almost last second vs early parries

[crude ermine]

Honestly I thought I could sneak a heal and shout

[terse idol]

Oh yeah the perfect Parry window

Finally confirmed

🥹

[junior needle]

Dumdum is bugged and using the code for anoint in blood, and is massively more consistent value than Ff/DS

It works up to 25m

[pastel geode]

Is there an actual meta for the curios or is is just kinda run whatever? Finally decided the upgrade mine cause I realized they were 2 weeks before launch access old

[terse idol]

Kinda?

[untold mulch]

I run 2xToughness and 1xStamina on my Vet

[terse idol]

I mean, 3 toughness
Some stamina regen
2-3x gunner res
1x sniper res

I run 2x toughness 1x health

[untold mulch]

I need to get 1 or 2 more Gunner

They are melting me in T5

[solid gull]

melt them back

[pastel geode]

First one I got maxed out was 20% health, 15% corruption resist, 5% toughness, 5% health

[untold mulch]

There is only so much of the Emperor mercy I can disperse per second 😔

[terse idol]

The health and toughness aint bad

Corruption res is meh

I found on damantion you'll probably die before corruption matters imo

[untold mulch]

Pretty much

[pastel geode]

Fair, though I don’t die that often

[terse idol]

Yeah

Then you can hit the unhinged gang and skip the +1 wound curio

[untold mulch]

[pastel geode]

Always have been

[terse idol]

(I don't recommend not having 1+ wound, but I don't run it eithrr)

[untold mulch]

2 wound is 1 more than necesary

[pastel geode]

My logic is wounds=downs and downs=failure

[untold mulch]

I run no wounds because in PUGs, if you go down

statistically

[pastel geode]

The emperor does not tolerate failure

[untold mulch]

at least to me, the run is fucked

[terse idol]

Downs is okay, because sometimes it can stop you from instantly deleting from like falling once and getting the trapper flamer combo

Or

Someone picks you up while on fire or while crusher overheads

[untold mulch]

The amount of itmes of damn I karked up, went down

The literal 5 seconds after

Trapper gets the Ogryn, Fire gets the Psyker, and the Zealot blows himself off a cliff

[terse idol]

I swear all these damnation runs

[pastel geode]

[terse idol]

Go fine for 15 minutes

Then insta die in 1 minute

[untold mulch]

kalm kalm

panik

[terse idol]

And this is speaking of a team that didn't take damage for the first 15 minutes

Judt woops

[untold mulch]

People relax

[terse idol]

The AI director woke up

[untold mulch]

and forget if its easy now

[terse idol]

Oh no yeah

[untold mulch]

the Director is bidding his time

[pastel geode]

Director just sitting there like an evil villain

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gendo-neon-genesis-evangelion-anime-smirk-gif-14884772

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-16625083

[untold mulch]

The director the second he sees the party relaxing

[solid gull]

Steamrolling an auric maelstrom, taking barely any damage

Wipe in the span of 15 seconds from silent bursters

It's the life #darktide-pics-vids message

[terse idol]

😌

[untold mulch]

I am 50% sure

that a good chunk of silent bursters

are actualyl mid-spawn

Even with Spidey Sense mod (though I assume is not perfect) I sometimes get one that just had no warning

[dusty nacelle]

What's a good build to use with a columnus IAG and chainsword?

[pastel geode]

I’m just glad I can’t get their gunk on my face anymore with my new helmet

[dusty nacelle]

and what perks/blessings would I be looking to get on them/

[crude ermine]

Jesus Christ

[zealous wyvern]

good fashion

i didnt think there was an outfit that goes well with the scion helmet

but that does look good

[jovial aurora]

what is the dump stat on a power sword

[untold mulch]

Now if we could recolor for free

[jovial aurora]

just got one with power cycler 4

[untold mulch]

Mobility? in general at 60% mobility you are good to go

[earnest wigeon]

I guess i only need to swap out the perks on this one?

[untold mulch]

Now if they actually added the weapon alongside it

[tall torrent]

That coat clips into the pants

[paper furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/sekiro-video-game-moon-fields-gif-17684069

[junior needle]

Ciag priority is dumdum>flak/maniac perks>second blessing is flexible and doesn’t matter much

[pastel geode]

I was looking at what people were trying with the helmet and then the idea clicked to try that and I love it.

[jovial aurora]

what perk other than power cycler

[untold mulch]

Must
Not
Replay
Sekiro....

HESITATION IS DEFEAT

[jovial aurora]

came with 25 maniacs as well so imma leave that, it has wrath 3 on it

is slaughterer avialble for power sword?

[untold mulch]

Brutal Momentum I think:?

[pastel geode]

I know, but it’s only noticeable from behind

[untold mulch]

Check with others first

[tall torrent]

It doesn’t clip with the Cadian pants tho

[untold mulch]

I mean with FS, the weird thing would be for it not to clip

[pastel geode]

They’ll fix it eventually

[untold mulch]

QA is a lie

[tall torrent]

I still need them to fix the arm muscle incorrect rendering on the newest Cadian armor

It’s perfect except that clipping issue which drives me crazy

[pastel geode]

I reject the new cadian armor cause I like my kasrkin camo better than flat green

[dusty nacelle]

Any recommendations on what i should put on a powe rsword?

[junior needle]

cycler 4 and sunder or brutal, both are good for different reasons.

[tall torrent]

Unfortunately I don’t have the old one

[dusty nacelle]

What about perks wise?

[tall torrent]

Didn’t play the game much in 1st year cuz it just didn’t ran well on my system

Was getting 36~40fps in hordes with stutters

[pastel geode]

Ouch

[pastel geode]

Maniac and carapace probably

[dusty nacelle]

Thoughts on this build too? I haven't played vet ever sincve the skill tree update so i kinda just selected these

[crude ermine]

WOW, that was nothing like the last scab melee mal

[dusty nacelle]

Was planning on using power sword and ciag with it

[delicate rivet]

Carapace to one shot Crushers with push atk

[dusty nacelle]

actually if i'm using power sword I probably don't need kraks as much do i?

[serene sage]

is that 30 points?

[final stone]

wait

blows himself off a cliff, or

'blows' himyknowwhat there are children present

[serene sage]

are yall still playing?

[untold mulch]

I meant the first, but noticed later my wording was not the best

[final stone]

well I'm ready to settle down and get serious

but she still playin full time fr fr

also where did you go

[untold mulch]

If they playing this game, they are splitting people in half, you can say the big guy words (not sure tbh, I didn't read the server rules )

[crude ermine]

I was getting fatigued and I was about to pass out

We can play more later I need to eat something

[final stone]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-cool-gif-18472725

[delicate rivet]

Average Auric Mael experience

[final stone]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-goodbye-emotional-friends-goodbye-waving-gif-17757844

[crude ermine]

We can play more once I wake up

[final stone]

sure, come find me

you're damned good at what you do and stuck to me like stink on poop

I appreciate that cohesion

or

OR

you could manbuck up and develop a cocaine addiction so you don't need sleep

[crude ermine]

That's a longer route to take because I lack any

[delicate rivet]

Cohesion 🤢

[untold mulch]

Pray to the Emperor to give you strength

[final stone]

well that's the worst part about coke tho

it runs out

[blazing veldt]

and the runs

[final stone]

okay fine I'll settle for you getting hooked on meth

[crude ermine]

That'll work

[final stone]

but this is seriously inconveniencing me

selfish, really

heh anyway toodles

[crude ermine]

See ya

[candid tundra]

is the new laspistol even any good?

[thorn lark]

thos 2 points to get 1 more nade are too valuable to be wasted

+1 nade is not on your path so don't take it, you'll regen them faster

[junior needle]

What gun are you using?

[thorn lark]

and i'll probably change charismatic to longshot

and yeah it depends on your weapon too

[junior needle]

You also dont need the grenade amp talent if you're running kraks

they kill crushers by default

[thorn lark]

oh i did not even see that

so yeah, another point!

[wet elk]

grenade build is the best veteran build dont @ me

[junior needle]

born leader is also a waste due to how little actual value it gives

[blazing veldt]

is that +10% melee damage node even worth it if you take reciprocity

I've kept it on but I'm trying to streamline my build

[untold mulch]

I heard it had ammo problems?

Though I assume using deadshot in it is even better

lower ROF=Less stamina used

[candid tundra]

I've also heard that it's got ass breakpoints

[untold mulch]

Wouldn't be surprised

it feels like a weapon

that they added just to add something

and it was quick to do

[blazing veldt]

Mk x las pistol NEEDS to weakspot to do anything

[untold mulch]

just changed the barrel of a skin, made the sound boosted

done, "new gun"

[forest scaffold]

Basically everything is a two shot kill

with or without perks

because of its critical hit damage modifier

On veteran you can drop that to OSBPs with counterfire, +30% weakspot damage, 5% crit chance blablabla

but its like. . . why go through all that effort when you can just use an MG Ia, MGIV, or MGXII and get the same exact performance with double to triple the ammo pool

Darktide's not very good at getting the upsides of pistols across because we can't dual wield weapons, which is the point of things like the bolt pistol and laspistol in lore.

[placid swan]

MG1a can meet the break points that the XII can now, right?

[forest scaffold]

You know, Iconic Commissar #1231bqZZ9901-KL with his laspistol and chainsword in hand

[junior needle]

I think you mean offhand

Or is it still dual wielding if it’s different weapons, most games seem to make dual wielding 2x the same

[junior needle]

Not all of them but a fairly good amount

[forest scaffold]

Without this functionality, there's no place for pistols because they're always going to feel bad for:

A) Doing more damage than rifles, which makes zero sense

or

B) doing less damage than rifles, and no upsides because mobility is through the god damn roof on nearly everything so far

Some people argue for the OG laspistol cause it has the same mobility as combat knives and lets you use a good melee weapon, but meh. Just use a lasrifle and get the same performance with more ammo.

[forest scaffold]

You hold a weapon in each hand, ergo dual wielding.

[terse idol]

Duel welding could work if they add in exclusive blessings but I dunno

[south garnet]

OG laspistol is funny due to speed + rof + crit + hipfire acc

[forest scaffold]

I dunno

[south garnet]

I like it on scrier psyker

[forest scaffold]

It works in VT2 with Salztpyre

I have no fucking clue why they won't do it here.

[junior needle]

Immeasurably complex

[south garnet]

They forgot

[junior needle]

Small indie company, also it’s snowing in Sweden, please understand

[south garnet]

Someone lost the USB stick containing the last decade of lessons learned

[forest scaffold]

I dunno

its just really fucking weird to make a 40k IP with no dual wielding

[south garnet]

They still exist, but won't be reimplemented until a dev accidentally finds the sticky notes while clearing out the VT2 launch cakes from the backup fridge

[forest scaffold]

even Spacehulk: Deathwing let you

and that game is trash

[umbral scaffold]

I would be happy about dual-wielding a dueling sword and a laspistol

[blazing veldt]

Ogryn should get 1 laspistol for every finger he has so about octuple-wielding laspistols

[tall torrent]

The real dual wield should be slab shield + grenadier gauntlet

For the authentic bullgryn experience

[terse idol]

Well it... the pistol wasn't good

The rapier was so good at headshoting but the pustil that came along was so forgettable

[forest scaffold]

That's just a numbers thing though.

Mechanically it's there

And 40k is probably the most iconic media of dual wielding out there

besides maybe samurais

Musashi my beloved

Its just really weird, and a small thorn in my side.

[untold mulch]

Yeah it was a wasted opportunity to not allow dual wielding since the beginning

Could allow pistols to be worse guns in exchange of CQB flexibility

[umbral scaffold]

I was told the rapier pistol had huge falloff

It was interesting to have it in a game with more limited ranged combat

[solid gull]

I recall sniping specials with it, though it was on a lower difficulty

[terse idol]

Well the pistol

Like I mean

It could stagger I guess

It did mininal damage

At all ranges

This isn't like the helbore Bayonet taking your melee blessings

This had no synergy

Besides maybe if you played Bounty hunter

I'm sure FS is trying to balance it

But the rapier pistol just wasn't very good for its pistol

[umbral scaffold]

It was a special attack on a melee weapon, it couldn't rival a gun

[blazing veldt]

They could just have the special attack button change the active weapon and your character will respond by lowering the inactive and raising the active

[strange grove]

anyone else like the mk4 lasgun?

with the talent you can get like 1100 ammo

[solid gull]

That the blue one?

[blazing veldt]

finger hurts already from just seeing the name

[strange grove]

the faster firing but weaker MG12

[solid gull]

I go by colors instead of marks

Easier for me

[placid swan]

The playability of the mk4 with how fast you need to cycle that mouse button is a factor. At least for me.

[solid gull]

But I did use the blue lasgun for quite a while pre-skill trees. But now every other corner I turn there’s carapace so I can’t make use of it as much

[blazing veldt]

combat knife + kantrael iv left click challenge

[solid gull]

Just bind attack to mouse wheel

[forest scaffold]

this is why I use the autoclicker mod

its the only gun in the game where I feel like I HAVE to use it

it needs 30% slower ROF and 30% higher damage

to become reasonable

[blazing veldt]

what happens when I need to heavy attack lol

[placid swan]

Might as well just be a M1a

[forest scaffold]

the autoclicker mod lets you set it by weapon

so you can set it up ONLY for the MG4

which is what I did

[blazing veldt]

Oh that's convenient

[forest scaffold]

only the mg4 attacks when I hold down mouse 1

everything else responds to the rules fatshark built

[serene bough]

Auto fire mod saves my finger

Then again, I feel like that should be an innate feature since the gun has a safety, semi, and auto switch

[blazing veldt]

yeah the scabs can burst fire

[umbral scaffold]

One of the best additions to the mod

[tiny summit]

My finger is fine. But why fatshark...why make helbore full auto but others not?

[terse idol]

Its good but you gotta get the full auto mod

[placid swan]

Where can I find mods?

[last parcel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87

[untold mulch]

THe lasgun that least needs full auto

has it

I want what the design team smokes

[terse idol]

I would also recommend finding the darktide modding discord

Alot of mods like the weapon customization mod

Isn't on the nexus

[placid swan]

Thanks

[blazing veldt]

yeah and the vacuum capsule mod

[untold mulch]

what mod now?

[blazing veldt]

vacuum capsule

[untold mulch]

Whats that and what it does?

[blazing veldt]

It vacuums capsules

[untold mulch]

[solid gull]

vacuum capsule

[untold mulch]

I am going insane I guess

[thorn lark]

does the mgIV with infernus works as well in a crit build?

[untold mulch]

Infernus I feel lost a lot of value once the interaction with Onslaught was nerfed

[umbral scaffold]

I bet it doesn't have crit strings

[untold mulch]

I never have seen the DoT be worth

[forest scaffold]

no, you want headhunter and deadly accurate

or opening salvo and headhunter

[thorn lark]

👍

[quasi moat]

what's up veteran gang, how do yall feel about smoke gernades

[thorn lark]

i ran a monstrous mael trio with a piety zealot yesterday... he fucking did 220k dmg on bosses with the laspistol lmao

[untold mulch]

Laspistol against bosses is silly

BoN literally melts

if you get shots in the glowing part

[thorn lark]

my bolter felt emasculated

[junior needle]

It was a sussy lazyman pick before the onslaught nerf (provided you actually took it) and not really good value now compared to alternatives.

[thorn lark]

onslaught was only nerf for fire dots?

it still works on bleed?

[junior needle]

No dots apply onslaught now

[untold mulch]

Dots before applied stacks

now it doesn't

[thorn lark]

but it powers them right?

like the uncanny blessing

[junior needle]

It affects your dot damage, yes.

[untold mulch]

Infernus I only see it for slow firing weapons that it may allow you on a crit that if get close to a breakpoint maybe in a specific case not need a second shot

and even then

Not a good use of blessing

[junior needle]

You're better off taking a direct damage blessing in that instance

[untold mulch]

Exactly

Infernus has been consistently nerfed since release

[thorn lark]

speaking of gun with infernus and power blessing, does the hb mk2 wants onslaught and surgical?

[forest scaffold]

I find its only useful on the recon lasguns

[untold mulch]

2 more max stacks don't matter if you still ain't helping in killing shit faster

[forest scaffold]

dumdum is really bad now that its limit is 8 meters

[junior needle]

Mhm, the crit/dot based nature means it's very particular about both guns and target for value.

[thorn lark]

if feels like you won't benefit much from surgical by shooting faster

[forest scaffold]

So headhunter+infernus on recon lasguns running maniac+flak is the best choice for it

[junior needle]

It should still be bugged to use the anoint in blood code, let me check

Tested it not too long ago

[thorn lark]

still bugged

[junior needle]

Yeah dumdum is actually really good right now

[thorn lark]

i spoke a bit with telopots about it

[muted knot]

I don't know what the hellbore haters in this chat are always on about it's been my favorite weapon for a bunch of weeks now and it serves me really damn well in aurics

[rare pumice]

I fucking did it boys I fucking completed MESC!

[thorn lark]

it is intended to proce at any range but the dmg should only applies at close range... which is not the case currently

[junior needle]

Infernus just needs a redesign like lacerate does.

[thorn lark]

apparently

[strange grove]

LOL, yea the finger clicking on M4 lasgun is no joke, same with hearing the plap plap plap plap sound all freaking game

[sonic marlin]

Are braced autoguns better than normal autoguns in any way? Since you can't ADS

[untold mulch]

Who hates Helbore in this chat?

[thorn lark]

i think they are afraid of making dots too powerful

[muted knot]

There's a bunch of people every now and then

[untold mulch]

Yeah if no FullAuto mod, is a bad idea to use

[junior needle]

plap plap plap plap
FOR CADIA
FOR CADIA
FOR CADIA

[muted knot]

Agri has cleave 1 for some reason

[untold mulch]

lmao

[inland orchid]

They tend to be better at horde clear imo cuz of how u can hold m2 and it effecting only the spread instead of the recoil, kinda

[untold mulch]

AND I AM SO GLAD FOR IT

[strange grove]

I might look that up as I really like this gun

[thorn lark]

they are good yeah, just put onslaught on it. And the brace is quite precise too

[inland orchid]

It still goes up when u fire like any gun but braced like spreading shot wise when fired for long periods of time

[thorn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/rambo-first-blood-gif-23989356

[untold mulch]

Get the mod, save your fingers

[muted knot]

I honestly hate running it

It feels like a worse stubber

If I could ads with it

Yes

I'd be down

[untold mulch]

I only get slightly frustrated at long range targets

[muted knot]

But naaaa

[untold mulch]

but I tend to be close range anyways

[strange grove]

its hard using that M4 lasgun tho when I have this in my stash

[untold mulch]

Running and Gunning

[muted knot]

So am I but it just doesn't feel right

[thorn lark]

no shit sherlock

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-business-gif-13484994

[inland orchid]

Beautiful lookin gun

[junior needle]

Different niches. The IAG's tend to be better generalist weapons whereas brautos give up longer range ability for better spraying power. CIAG has the highest automatic dps in the game though.

[untold mulch]

Imo, I feel like lasguns needs something more

[magic geyser]

made a new veteran, time to suffer through the early levels

[strange grove]

seems lasguns cant shoot thru allies, yet normal guns can?

[sonic marlin]

guess ill stick with this, its not even finished kek

[untold mulch]

Honestly my main problem with Brauto

Is that for some reason only 2/2 dodges

If at least it were 3

[junior needle]

Replace punishing with dumdum and specialists with flak and you're mostly there.

[untold mulch]

Lucius should be able to?

VIIa recon too I think

[magic geyser]

just finished my quest to level 30 all characters, but remade my vet because i found i like other voice better had the female loose cannon, now i have the cadian one

[sonic marlin]

I barely collected any blessings

[strange grove]

Oh thats good to know, when FS removes the constant cocking of the gun on use I might try helbores again lol

[untold mulch]

Yeah, the pull out time is a pain in the ass

[sonic marlin]

should i upgrade weapons to blue and sell for blessings?

[junior needle]

Even a t1 dummy dum will get you much, much more value than t4 punishing.

You can

I've done it before

[sonic marlin]

can i somehow upgrade it later if i wasted the 2 changes?

[untold mulch]

Yes

[sonic marlin]

how

[untold mulch]

When you do crafting, you "unlock" that slot

[placid portal]

the slot you change can always be changed

[untold mulch]

you can always change it later

[sonic marlin]

oh

[junior needle]

You can only change the slots you already changed. The others are locked.

[untold mulch]

So its not a bad idea to slap a low tier blessing

until you get the IV

[junior needle]

Just remember than purple>orange has the highest chance of high tier blessings

[tulip condor]

sup sup everyone

Just found this in Melks. Bought it just in case. Looks like it can be good. What do I need to swap to?

[umbral scaffold]

Thunderstrike to uncanny

[tulip condor]

Also wanna make an Agrippina revolver. Blessings is Crucian/Point blank, ya?

[umbral scaffold]

See if it's close to some carapace breakpoint too

[tulip condor]

hard copy

[magic geyser]

playing veteran when coming off of ogryn feels so weird

[forest scaffold]

is that the new one?

[junior needle]

That's high noon right? People seem to have settled into crucian/handcannon

[umbral scaffold]

Odds are you're too far from a breakpoint with carapace and don't need the perk, but your build can really affect that part

[forest scaffold]

I don't even think the new one HAS blessings that are good

half the blessings aren't good on oldvolver

and the new volver just makes them even worse

[junior needle]

Also the new revolver has big shit accuracy

[tulip condor]

yea

[junior needle]

I tried it on my zealot

[forest scaffold]

I mean, new volver is easy to roll at least

flak, maniac

call it a day

[junior needle]

Fan something at medium range, maybe hit 1 or 2 shots

[forest scaffold]

like the infantry autoguns

so that's. . . something

[tulip condor]

ah ok, glad I double checked here

[forest scaffold]

the blessings on new volver and IAGs just aren't impactful enough to matter

[umbral scaffold]

I use desperado, precision strikes and superiority complex to do a heavy special with a shovel followed by a light one on the crusher

[junior needle]

Bugged dumdum is great on IAG's

But apart from that yeah

[tall torrent]

I heard crucian + trickshooter was good on it

[umbral scaffold]

Trickshooter is awful

[tulip condor]

yea, was going to be a melee focus build. Breakpoints are nice but so long as it is effcient im happy

[junior needle]

Not with that dogshit accuracy

Or you're gonna be using it as a second melee weapon

[sonic marlin]

what would be the perfect perks and blessings

[umbral scaffold]

People saw one video of a guy nuking a boss standing still and started suggesting trickshooter on a revolver with worse accuracy than the one people already decided trickshooter was bad for

[tulip condor]

ah really? I know it wont be great in Auric missions but was hopping as some kinf od quick draw. Closest style I have is working the Kantrael shotty

[junior needle]

Dumdum>flak/maniac>second blessing to preference, DS gives power and stacks so it's a usual pick

[tall torrent]

Oh ok

[umbral scaffold]

Honestly I regretted using agri

[sonic marlin]

which perk would be better? I'm guessing maniacs? Idk how often I encounter flak armoreds

[tulip condor]

Yea, thats what I'm getting the feel of. I play CS a lot which I think is making me lean towards those weapons

just not super effective

Example is I liked plasma but still fan of bolter. Even if I built the new Plasma meta, Id still love bolter more as far as shooting style

[junior needle]

Flak is the most common armor type in the game, essentially everything with visible armor is flak (except crushers and mauler heads). I'd do flak over maniac as it already deletes maniacs quite fast so extra maniac damage is more about going ammo neutral/positive.

[tulip condor]

damn shame. Guess ill save my resources

[tulip condor]

Ill keep this in mind, thanks

[junior needle]

Oh and the scab flamer is maniac I think, despite looking like it has armor

[sonic marlin]

how do i earn blessings fast

buying, consecrating?

[muted knot]

Both

Go to blue

Buy Melk weapons for good blessings

[tranquil bronze]

Damnation really should be strictly level 30

[tulip condor]

this is usually how my melee builds end

[sonic marlin]

what autogun is considered the best

[junior needle]

CIAG

[hollow ibex]

columnus prob

[primal mesa]

it is maniac

[tulip condor]

Agripinna IAG will still be my favorite

[junior needle]

agri works fine and handles better for long range

[tulip condor]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-sad-sad-stitch-gif-14364046974961747120

Sucks it aint viable

[primal mesa]

agri is very viable

and will be the new go to when mk5 is nerfed

[junior needle]

CIAG is just overtuned dps wise

[primal mesa]

esp if you use focus

[strange grove]

what ranged do you pair with it? a las pistol or shotgun?

[primal mesa]

agri and focus synergy is still like an a+ build lol

[tulip condor]

Its ok to say at most

[umbral scaffold]

Agri is comfy

[tulip condor]

Kantreal shotty

[sonic marlin]

smh im out of platsteel, it will take forever to get blessings

[primal mesa]

agri goes toe to toe with mk5 in terms of its over all dmg it just has less dps since its much lower fire rate

aka you have to move back a bit and cant just hold w and win like with mk5

which honestly is how the game should be anyways lul

[tulip condor]

Tried with Agrippina but Kantrael has awaly outperfomed it both as zealot or vet from my personal experience

[umbral scaffold]

Vet agri is funny

[strange grove]

I'll loan you some

[tulip condor]

Agrippina IAG is such a stiff build

Its the best way to describe it

[primal mesa]

yeah its not over powered lol

[tulip condor]

Like the play style is so rigid

[junior needle]

It's about even with graia IAG, columnus is likely on the chopping block for overperformance

[tulip condor]

It can NOT be op and still have a flow though

[umbral scaffold]

Graia is my favorite of the bunch

[hollow ibex]

what about graia

i don't have a good graia

[primal mesa]

weapons that arent op shouldnt have a flow chart easy style of gameplay

[hollow ibex]

oh how come?

[umbral scaffold]

Graia is for when you need prolonged fire

[junior needle]

About the same dps as agri

[primal mesa]

it is impossible to go wrong with an iag

[hollow ibex]

hmm

maybe i'll give graia a try

i do like agri tbf

[primal mesa]

literally use any standard build with any rolled iag and it will do well

[tulip condor]

Are they the same performance if they were headshots?

[junior needle]

Flak is the only negative modifier armor type IAG's have, so they do more better damage to flak with rending in the mix

[umbral scaffold]

They have the same modifier, to my knowledge

[primal mesa]

iags have so much dps that doesnt even matter

also this is vet onslaught is a default node in any serious build now

[tulip condor]

ok think of it like this

[forest scaffold]

That's not to say that new volver is bad

Its uh

[umbral scaffold]

Bad

[forest scaffold]

Fatshark has a rabid hatred of accuracy

[primal mesa]

its fucking horrible

[forest scaffold]

so you can't really spam fire it outside of point blank range

[junior needle]

Yes. CIAG has proportionally more headshot dps because it's just more dps baseline. Agri and graia have about the same headshot similarly to bodyshot dps.

[forest scaffold]

But it has the ammo pool to use it as a primary

so you don't feel bad about clearing out shooter adds

[primal mesa]

lol what?

[forest scaffold]

and its decent enough at killing elites and specials

you just don't get the OSBP that oldvover does(And shouldn't get anyway, but that's a different conversation)

[umbral scaffold]

I wish the reload ended when the player pushed the speedloader into the drum instead of when the gun was closed

[junior needle]

Note that ciag does 2944 dps without crits on maniac headshots

[forest scaffold]

new volver is an acceptable weapon, and fine in its own right. Its just that new volvo is competing against old volvo

[primal mesa]

no the old revolver is fine

[junior needle]

Gray and talentless

[primal mesa]

it doesnt need buffed or nerfed

[forest scaffold]

it ABSOLUTELY needs to be nerfed

and it needed to be nerfed 4 months ago

shits fucking stupid overpowered

[umbral scaffold]

The old revolver has too much cleave

[forest scaffold]

braindead ass weapon

[primal mesa]

you ABSOLUTELY have no idea what you're talking about lol

[forest scaffold]

with literally zero drawbacks

[primal mesa]

if you think the old rev is op op

[forest scaffold]

one shotting 9 shotgunners is clearly fair and balanced

[primal mesa]

you'd cream your self watching a real try hard comp do its thing

[forest scaffold]

or 3 ragers

[tulip condor]

Using stance make range OP when used. It is however only ever good if you are not forced into melee. Most of these fights will be melee. That is what I mean as a flow, It just doesn't work in most setting. Cant just whip out a kantreal, take a pot shot or so then switch back to melee. CD for ability is way to long for it be effective at quick range kills

[forest scaffold]

flamers

trappers

bursters

etc etc etc

[primal mesa]

yeah and?

[forest scaffold]

this shit is fucking busted

[primal mesa]

iags kill them in under0.3 seconds

[forest scaffold]

straight up overpowered

[primal mesa]

ok dude how about this

[umbral scaffold]

The old revolver is the Kruber handgun with 5 shots

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[primal mesa]

come join my normal game with my normal team

we will use grey weapons

[untold mulch]

But the reload

I remember people pulling that one constnatly

[forest scaffold]

its like multiple things can be braindead OP at the same time

[primal mesa]

you can use your "op" revolver build

[tulip condor]

OK then how is it good? Hate to waste resources making something that seems like it'll change again to balance it out

[primal mesa]

if you arent bottom fragge rill paypal you 20 bucks

[umbral scaffold]

That sounds

So pretentious

[serene sage]

I'll take that bet, just not bottom fragging with the revolver vs grey guns right?

[finite imp]

thats a free 20 bucks

[serene sage]

I mean top fragging vs shit like plasma would be rough

[tulip condor]

Well damn. Thanks for putting it in to perspective. I Never could get into the numbers of the games I play (Meta?). It was always if it felt good using. Ill give CIAG a try

[serene sage]

but just simply not botom with revolver?

I'm so fucking down

😄

[finite imp]

yeah ez

[serene sage]

vs grey guns no less

[finite imp]

that's a big bite to chew

[serene sage]

xD well im taking his words at face value

[primal mesa]

ok if you're that confident how about we raise the stakes and make it 50 and you put down 50 as well?

[serene sage]

cause he seems very confident

[serene sage]

same rules? 50?

okay

[primal mesa]

winner takes both

[umbral scaffold]

Hah, he doubled down on the money

[serene sage]

50 it is

[finite imp]

brother

[serene sage]

isn't that... how bettings work

[untold mulch]

Vet chat hours

[umbral scaffold]

Well, previously it was free 20 with no loss

[primal mesa]

yeah but the old offer wasnt even a bet

[junior needle]

unsheathes kickback

Nottin persunnel, Sah.

[primal mesa]

thank you the only not stupid person here

[finite imp]

that was 100% a bet

[serene sage]

alright, 50 on the line
Revolver vs 3 grey guns (teammates)

[finite imp]

why are you getting riled up lmao

[serene sage]

I'm logging in rn

[molten hound]

hey Im not that stupid

[umbral scaffold]

Can't wait to hear all about the plasma kickback crowd

[untold mulch]

Go get him

[tulip condor]

I havent used a lot of range weapons as I vet. I so used to being melee (I main zealot). Really wanna give the other ones a try but again, vet feels so much weaker as a range style build

[finite imp]

wish i could spectate this

[serene sage]

I can stream

[finite imp]

down

[serene sage]

I mean there's a chance I'm completely stomped

[umbral scaffold]

Stream after I get off of work

[serene sage]

but that's a risk ill take

[untold mulch]

Gonna head to sleep, but imma check later how it went

[finite imp]

all you have to do is not get last place

against greys lol

[tiny summit]

Helbores good

[serene sage]

yeah that's the kicker haha

[umbral scaffold]

I wouldn't risk 50 bucks on a penis-measurement contest

[untold mulch]

I mean

Define risk

here

[umbral scaffold]

I'm proud, not reckless

[serene sage]

have you read the terms?

[untold mulch]

Because I ain't seeing much, and if you have hte money and the skill

[finite imp]

i'm always happy to watch a show from people with massive egos

[serene sage]

Revolver vs 3 grey guns, not bottom fragging

[umbral scaffold]

Tabletop game that destroys families

[serene sage]

Dude doubled down to $50

I'm happy to oblige

[finite imp]

you're going to slap them around in the breakpoint dept

no doubt

even if they're somehow god tier (this guys been here since dec)

[umbral scaffold]

I have, but that's exactly why I don't trust it

[serene sage]

I mean there's a chance there's no payout at all, or they cheat, or whatever

[umbral scaffold]

When people flex like that, they also like to not give ground

[finite imp]

probably the former

just talk

[tulip condor]

not my style for auric

[umbral scaffold]

I reckon it'll turn out like when kids play cops and robbers and it turns into "you didn't shoot me", "yes I did"

[untold mulch]

Good that now we can check weapons of an ally in the lobby

[serene sage]

yeah lmao

[untold mulch]

What cops and robbers did you play that used the words shoot

Why mine never did

[umbral scaffold]

The American version

[untold mulch]

FAIR

[serene sage]

if I see a character dips out when the timer goes out in loadout selection

then we know something is fishy

[junior needle]

Loadout monitor

[untold mulch]

and is not the fat shark netcode

[junior needle]

Comes in clutch

Works on the scoreboard too

[untold mulch]

True that

[umbral scaffold]

Based

[untold mulch]

I am invested now

[umbral scaffold]

I just am passing time at work

[serene sage]

either they dipped or getting the goon squad together

[untold mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-theatre-movie-watching-helmet-stormtrooper-gif-15103024

[finite imp]

dipped

100%

[untold mulch]

Got called out

[tulip condor]

so any of this acutally happening or everyone still speculating?

[finite imp]

bro got his bluff called

[untold mulch]

Looks like it was a bluff

[serene sage]

I mean it's a stupid fucking statement

[finite imp]

i don't think he realized just how many hours people liek us have in this game

[serene sage]

But dude is so arrogant I just want to take it at face value

[finite imp]

I mean look at my fucking join date

[untold mulch]

I have 300 hours and feel like is little compared to people here

[finite imp]

literally day 2 of the game even being out

and thats only because i had work the first day

[untold mulch]

I played the pre-beta

[finite imp]

same

I even have the "haha sucker" helmet

[untold mulch]

got hte game in the month of release

Dipped in january or so until patch 13

[magic geyser]

only 220h i played a while in the beginning of the game's life, and like picked it up again 2 or 3 months ago

[finite imp]

almost 400 hours now

[untold mulch]

If Fatshark adds a Hellgun and is moderately good

Watch me break the 3k hours

[finite imp]

and there are mf's in here with WAY more than me

[untold mulch]

There are some usuals here with like 2k

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-in-grass-jump-gif-21351898

[terse idol]

Recon drowned so hellgun could swim

[umbral scaffold]

I think I might have reached 900 by now

[terse idol]

I'm holding onto faith

[untold mulch]

🙏

[umbral scaffold]

I trust he'll show up

[serene sage]

hehe nice

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-touch-grass-gif-24659299

[untold mulch]

I pray the Recon shittiness is to allow the Hellgun to fly

[umbral scaffold]

That or we caused him to make a whole video on why revolver is balanced

[untold mulch]

I think my highest hours in game

is between Warframe with recorded 1k hours

[finite imp]

he got tilted during the bluff there was no way he would have had the grit to back that up

[tulip condor]

When people start talking about hrs played

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[untold mulch]

and Ace Combat 5

Which my old memory card had 600 flight hours

That was after I lost my memory card, and the game is finished in 4-5 flight hours

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220

my Monster Hunter XX save file at the end of my 2nd deployment had 1750.37 hours on it

[untold mulch]

DAYUM

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[tulip condor]

Pfft

[untold mulch]

Reject grind set

[serene sage]

this you?

[old quail]

i havent been outside since december 2022

[finite imp]

fucking christ fox

[tulip condor]

Its annoying hearing that cuz I can do w/e I want with my free time

[finite imp]

1401

that guy is NOT coming back

NO WAY

[serene sage]

it literally says Darcy

clearly not me

[finite imp]

oh i thought that was your screen

mb

[tulip condor]

is as annoying as to be called sweating in comp games when that literally the point of play comp games

[finite imp]

its one thing to complain someone is playing bad, but complaining they're playing good???

[tulip condor]

pfft i remember that name

[serene sage]

remember, anyone below your rank is pisslow trash noob and anyone above you are tryhards with no life

[sonic marlin]

cool, at least ill get 1st dumdum

[tulip condor]

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-haha-not-funny-hahaha-evil-laugh-laughing-gif-17347025675359632212

[untold mulch]

THIS

[finite imp]

and anyone who isn't knifemaxxing is simply mentally ill and depressed and crazy and stupid and lame

and schizo

[eternal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-speech-bubble-cat-drinking-water-stupid-stupid-cat-gif-12327862702270255434

[finite imp]

i need to figure out how to rename weapons

[sonic marlin]

do any of you replace tasks hoping to get a task with higher reward?

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-merde-shit-chier-nervous-gif-21201350

WHAT ARE YOU SAYINGF

[eternal sable]

6 missions now player deaths?

[finite imp]

YOU THINK IM CRAZY?

[eternal sable]

getting 1 is death

[finite imp]

FUCK YOU MAN FUCK YOUUU

[eternal sable]

aruic t5 pub classic

[tulip condor]

Guess I can't use that word -.-

[fresh grail]

i replace them with easier tasks. picking up grimoires takes too long and i barely have enough time to do all 5 in a week

[finite imp]

yeah you cant say the wheelchair word

[serene sage]

well regarded

literally nearly all of my play time is post patch 13

[finite imp]

just go "OK ♿ "

and you're good

[junior needle]

Wont work on your IAG, blessings are separated by weapon line

[sonic marlin]

shit

[thorn lark]

i don't think the game does a good job to explain that

[tulip condor]

It's common sense really. You fight out in the open against range unit, its probably not gonna be good. Suck are horde clearing? maybe turtle in a area to funnel the enemies in. It's literally just thinking about WHY, things didnt work out then correcting them

[sonic marlin]

any of these decent?

[serene sage]

huh?

[fresh grail]

half the game is cryptic and takes a lot of googling to understand. Classic fatshark

[celest vine]

♿

[finite imp]

hilarious and funny and original

knife brings comedy knife brings a laughter

[gritty dock]

I exchange it every time until I collect a total of approximately 3,000 rewards plus 1,000 bonuses.
Currently, the rewards look like this for me.
After the changes, of course.

[serene sage]

no I just pick the ones that can be done with minimal efforts

[tulip condor]

its been on and off for me. Been in the discord literally to grab info for weapon builds and try different combos until I get either a FUN playstyle or an EFFECTIVE playstyle(can survive on my own)

[sonic marlin]

i got this, i might replace the last task

[tulip condor]

like that Darcy thing, I could not keep up

Its like ppl talking about tabloids in real life

[serene sage]

the 16 grims and scriptures will take a lot longer than 8 missions

[tulip condor]

I aint got time to listen to other ppl's BS

[solid gull]

no player deaths + script/grims

nah mate

[tulip condor]

like, why?

[sonic marlin]

the player deaths don't sound too hard

ill just have to carry lower difficulty if it goes to shit

[fresh grail]

I feel ya. theres a lot of drama llamas in vet chat. Just keep it to build discussion, can easily tell who is able to hold a discussion like an adult and who isn't.

[tulip condor]

idk, was trying to connect to the whole experience with hrs played

[shrewd acorn]

Should I upgrade the No Respite blessing to T4 or use my last remaining change on the perks?

[serene sage]

change perk

unarmored or maniac or flak

[sonic marlin]

any of mine decent or nah

[shrewd acorn]

Get rid of the reload or the infested perk for one of those?

[serene sage]

infested

it's no use because dogs die in one slug shot

[fresh grail]

extra reload never hurts tbh. Some guns need it more than others but its a perk i never mind

[serene sage]

and if you shoot busters enough for infested damage to matter, then yeah...

[shrewd acorn]

I'd go unarmoured if I was planning on using this on hordes I suppose?

[gritty dock]

I collect grimoires and scripts.
There are players who like to do this.
When I see a team collecting it, I collect it too.
If someone writes at the beginning of the match not to collect, I don't collect at all costs.
I try to be flexible and always i have collected it at the end of the week.
😀

[blazing veldt]

Why use the agri on a horde

[shrewd acorn]

fair point

[tulip condor]

I never understood ppl needing extra reload cd besides whats given from vet tallent tree

[fresh grail]

If i be spending most of the match shooting i need to reload constantly is the way i see it, so any extra reload speed comes in handy.

[molten hound]

I like my bolter reloading quicker so I can dakka dakka more

[junior needle]

The revolver works for a t4 surgical pull, and you could use it as a stop gap if you replace weakspot for maniac and crucian for handcannon. Ideally you'd want a bit better stat spread though.

[tulip condor]

Respect

[serene sage]

it for gunners, you can hit one shot breakpoint with it

[tulip condor]

Fair point. I just thought of it as people needing fast reload as the people who use way too much ammo or still trying to shoot when hordes are already surronding them

[serene sage]

and shooters are also unarmored for body shots

[fast cargo]

Hey, is the Heavy Laspistol worth a damn?

[tulip condor]

Ive seen so many pub vets still shooting instead of switch to melee when getting mobbed

[fast cargo]

One just hit my shop with two IV perks on it

[fresh grail]

It depends on the gun of course, but with someting like an agri braced you get back so much ammo from survivalist you can keep it out for most the mission.

[blazing veldt]

Recon Lasgun archetype

[fresh grail]

I feel the pain. They all get stranded in difficulty 4

[blazing veldt]

Vet has such strong melee feats too

[strange grove]

lol that’s like 2 months of savings and minimal crafting

[tulip condor]

Ahhh i missed that gun. Cant make it work before the big patch talent tree

granted it was broken but can't even get close liek it

[fresh grail]

its autogun galore right now, they gave them all huge ammo buffs since launch and it made me very happy

[tulip condor]

yea, then blame everyone for not playing our roles

[umbral scaffold]

Retrograde

Tanner disappeared from the chat, inshallah

[strange grove]

lol what’s the wheelchair word?

[tulip condor]

What good for agrippina braced? I used to use fire frenzy and terrifying barrage for cc. Did it change?

[serene sage]

regarded?

[bitter turtle]

Terrifying barrage is almost never the right choice

[warped agate]

Slow

[strange grove]

Oh, don’t see how they are linked lol

[serene sage]

you missed the drama

[bitter turtle]

What happened

[pulsar drift]

What drama

[fresh grail]

This is what i'm using atm on my support vet, but the good thing about the BRauto guns is that they dont need blessings to be good.

[bitter turtle]

I was slep 😔

[frank ether]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/251079720559575062/1010123350158364682/kanon_speech-1.gif

[serene sage]

some dude came in, flame purigryn, saying that Revolver isn't OP
then said if dude plays with him and his mates, all using grey weapons, he would give $20 if you can just simply not bottom frag with the Revolver

[bitter turtle]

And did it happen

[serene sage]

so I said I would take that bet. dude doubled down saying the original wasn't a bet, but would do it if the stake is higher to $50

I said sure

then he just dips

[fresh grail]

OH also Deathspitter stacks 5 times but the UI doesn't show it here. Classic fatshark

[bitter turtle]

Rip

Free moni

[serene sage]

it's a bunch of nothing burger but hilarious

i would have had $50

[frank ether]

bruh

[fresh grail]

People really do be going far to argue with random nicknames on a discord

I just come here for info

[frank ether]

freaking over game balance in a casual pve game do be funny

[serene sage]

well he is a YTber with some bad takes (and a few good ones, to be fair) I think

so he's more or less known around here

[bitter turtle]

You know what they say about broken clocks

[strange grove]

You guys talking about Puri Puri?

[serene sage]

no, puri was the one saying Revolver needs nerf, which it kinda does

the other one is tanner

[strange grove]

Oh

[serene sage]

i'm assuming it's the same one as the YTber who has that horrid weapon tier list

[gilded rock]

Darktide YouTuber moment

[serene sage]

his other vids are ok

[fresh grail]

I mean goes for anyone involved in this drama, content creator or not. I don't really get the point but to each their own.

[gilded rock]

Someone in zealot chat has gotta step in and be the first good DT youtuber

[serene sage]

fair

[frank ether]

on one hand defending revolver is kinda ??? and on the other hand puri just constantly wants something nerfed

[gilded rock]

All the sages reside there

[serene sage]

we have jonny something who is actually decent

a playtester

[fresh grail]

vet chat is just extra toxic. I think everyone gets a bit of Khorne energy added when they open vet class chat

You go back to zealot chat and you become zen with the emperor again

[serene sage]

and another person who show Bolter one shot builds which rub me the wrong way but they are good skillwise

[strange sparrow]

Puri kinda want everything nerf

[serene sage]

like I don't hate unless it's like agregiously wrong

[strange sparrow]

[strange grove]

Zealot chat is 50% off topic and 15% about food

[serene sage]

like Recon is A tier kinda wrong

and Shotty are the worst thing ever

[gilded rock]

There's a reason I used to discriminate against vet players pre-14

[serene sage]

100% femboy being offended?

[strange grove]

lol

[fresh grail]

Knife loner stealth zealot are the new pre-14 veterans. The cycle continues

[gilded rock]

And yet they know just about every single thing that the talent tooltips don't say

[bitter turtle]

I doubt they talk about fucking pokemon

That's our thing

Cowards

[gilded rock]

Partial truth

[strange grove]

Thats true. Who knew the TTs are so jacked up

[blazing veldt]

they talk about what

[strange grove]

Like chastise downgrading armor etc

[gilded rock]

I still think it's batshit crazy that GRENADE TINKERER used to give melee stun invulnerability

And it just

Didn't say that

(Until they took it away )

[strange grove]

Thy Grenade Tinkerer be Swift

[blazing veldt]

They wrath be tinkered

[strange grove]

lol

[gilded rock]

Thy Tinkering Be Swift

Love it

[sharp ember]

one must wonder if they meant for it to be for only when winding up a throw or something

[strange grove]

What’s funny is TWBS gives ranged stun immunity too

[sharp ember]

or maybe something vestigial from the talent being something else entirely during testing

[serene sage]

I think it was stun immnue, period, so not even ranged enemies can stun/knockback

that's hw I remember it was

[gilded rock]

Could be true, I didn't play enough vet back then

[blazing veldt]

Yeah that's the one big secret that will make 90% of gunners HATE this zealot

[gilded rock]

Now that veteran tree is... actually something, I love vet and play it almost every time I'm on

[strange grove]

FS needs to have the mechanics devs write the tooltips themselves instead of the interns

[pastel geode]

The secret is the interns ARE the mechanics devs

[gilded rock]

Thank god TWBS does have it, because I was so fucking tired of getting stunned out of a chastise by a gunner pre tree patch (og holy rev enjoyers wya)

[finite imp]

did that 50 dollar bet guy ever show up

[umbral scaffold]

Nope

[finite imp]

yeah

figures

[pastel geode]

Idk but I want $50

[umbral scaffold]

I read the whole chat looking for it

[brisk sapphire]

wish TWBS wasnt on the loner path

[umbral scaffold]

Same

TWBS in the middle before sainted gunslinger

[fresh grail]

everybody making gun zealot sound like more fun than veteran

im converting

[umbral scaffold]

Suddenly everyone runs sainted gunslinger

[serene sage]

nope, im playing MHW now

[umbral scaffold]

I'm wondering now

[finite imp]

that games making a comeback

[umbral scaffold]

Why did Tanner want to play with his team?

Why did it specifically need to be the bet taker with Tanner's premade?

[serene sage]

seems so

[umbral scaffold]

Could Tanner not just pick a grey himself and duo queue?

[pastel geode]

Is the twins hard fight still a PITA

[bitter turtle]

You'd have to outdamage all 3 of them combined ofc

[umbral scaffold]

Could it be he was afraid of getting outdamaged by a random

[magic geyser]

got two penances for cosmetics in one mission

[umbral scaffold]

[serene sage]

no, because the bet was to not bottom frag

[umbral scaffold]

What if he bottom fragged playing with a random

[gilded rock]

I like how monster hunter is like pokemon levels of cutesie and simultaneously pokemon levels of horror with specific monsters

[finite imp]

he knew he was fucked as soon as we didn't even hesitate

[serene sage]

if he bottom frags then I win

[umbral scaffold]

I hesitated, you guys carried me

[serene sage]

basically it was a stupid as fuck statement

but he was really arrogant so I took it at face value

[magic geyser]

got One in the Chamber, and Stay Alert in same mission

[umbral scaffold]

Being more arrogant than me is quite the achievement

[finite imp]

humility is a powerful skill

[fresh grail]

And a rare one indeed

What surprises me most about this game is how chill any auric difficulty 5 is, but then the reddit, discord and forums are proper on fire all the time.

[magic geyser]

question, which looks better in yalls opinion?

[finite imp]

its because the people who are good at the game are playing it instead of complaining

[fresh grail]

so true

[finite imp]

oh this situation was impossible this game isn't fair this class sucks

i've heard. it. all.

skill

[serene sage]

nerf plasma and revolver

thanks