veteran-class

[slow spade]

Yeah but its never "just" the bulwarks

[untold mulch]

Everything is a better Recon

[slow spade]

And then the Columbus is like a better autopistol UwU

[torpid sundial]

But I like the autopistol spam and mobility

[slow spade]

Doesn't Columbus get like 55 mag and 700 rounds with +25% ammo?

That's pretty good

[zealous wyvern]

i love story. i would love if this game had more story. i hang onto every piece of available plot

[sharp ember]

i like autopistol’s ||big flashlight||

[untold mulch]

They could have +50% ammo Recon

And still would be a bit meme to pick

[slow spade]

Need Hadron dating sim subplot pls

[torpid sundial]

Cursed

[slow spade]

From 20 ammo picked up to 18💪

[serene sage]

The Hadrussy

[sharp ember]

the secret route to unlock skitarii class

(you will be delimbed and your lungs replaced with leather bellows*)

[torpid sundial]

I just want my 377-380 base rating weapons to not be thrown into the trash hadron

Suppressing fire hadron

1.5 stamina hadron

[zealous wyvern]

go away

[serene sage]

Hadron took my legs

[zealous wyvern]

good

if thats your best behaviour, she should take the rest as well

[slow spade]

"Wants story" -> declines adding more story

[untold mulch]

Fr fr

[serene sage]

We need a romanceable Sister

[slow spade]

Argenta UWOH

[serene sage]

She's not

Sadness

[slow spade]

Indeed :c

At least she gets the funny armor

Which I haven't found yet

I have 90 hours in rogue trader seriously where the fuck is it

[zealous wyvern]

how about some actual story

[serene sage]

Like what, Korpsman

[zealous wyvern]

an order to the missions

with objectives lined out by dialogue

[serene sage]

Tbf we already have that

[zealous wyvern]

and more cutscenes

[zealous wyvern]

not in a campaign context

[slow spade]

Smh now a choosing begger 😔

Hadron dating sim take it or leave it

R18+ patch tomorrow

[zealous wyvern]

cast it into the fire

go google porn

[sharp ember]

i like the staff meeting cutscene where everyone is just standing around the table 🧍‍♂️

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[untold mulch]

And your PC doesnt even appears

[zealous wyvern]

in the 41st millenium there is no story

only war

[slow spade]

? I already do lmao

[zealous wyvern]

that beats dating sim

[serene sage]

nah, the Imperium survives because there are always new people to replace the dead ones

[zealous wyvern]

yes

dutiful recreation is good

[serene sage]

so, dating sim UwU

[zealous wyvern]

dating sims dont get you laid

dating sims get you single and virgin

[serene sage]

in game

so the Imperium has more children :3

[strange sparrow]

Who the fuck is fucking in the grim dark world of 41 millennium

[zealous wyvern]

in game you should know your station

[strange sparrow]

Like

[zealous wyvern]

hadron and a sister would be too good for you

[untold mulch]

How else you get more guardsman

[serene sage]

well every world

[zealous wyvern]

if you want it so bad go hook up with another reject

or in the warband, with another trooper

[serene sage]

that is not actively being undersiege, and oever so

[strange sparrow]

Like every world probably have Hong Kong Real Estate pricing

[slow spade]

Bro never heard of Slaanesh

[serene sage]

or the Jean Stealers

[zealous wyvern]

or humans

[strange sparrow]

They’re LGBTQ+ so 50-50 that they aren’t gonna have kids

[serene sage]

40k years after, mofos still go at it

[zealous wyvern]

humans do that in 40k

[strange sparrow]

Wonder why that slaneesh demon have boobs and dicks

Exactly

[zealous wyvern]

to add more variety to the pleasure

obviously

[sharp ember]

because they reproduce by budding?

[zealous wyvern]

cool

[serene sage]

TIL demons are plants

[zealous wyvern]

they are beautiful flowers

[strange sparrow]

Anyways, I can’t deal with the fact that anyone would be fuckin in the grim dark millennium of 41k

[zealous wyvern]

why

attraction still exists

[slow spade]

Brb submitting a form for the Biologis

[strange sparrow]

Because life is hard

[zealous wyvern]

also something something humans get more motivated to procreate when their lives are in danger

[serene sage]

many Imperial Worlds are not battlefields, in fact, I would say most aren't

[strange sparrow]

Like look at Japan

[serene sage]

and there are many many world

[slow spade]

Can love bloom? Even on the battlefield? UwU

[untold mulch]

Fight-Flight-Fright-Fu...

[sharp ember]

real question is: how good is the imperium’s parental leave benefits

[serene sage]

Sometimes it's literally forced procreation as well

[slow spade]

Not if I have anything to say about it 💪

[serene sage]

look at Vraks

[serene bough]

pls no hadron dating sim

[strange sparrow]

We don’t talk about krieg

[serene bough]

i can only be called a varlet so many times

[serene sage]

Vostrayan as well

[zealous wyvern]

we are definitely not discussing krieg here

[slow spade]

Brunt Dating sim

[untold mulch]

Yeah there is a limit somewhat

[serene bough]

id date brunt

[zealous wyvern]

but would you lay down your life for the Emperor?

[strange sparrow]

But seriously, it’s so depressing to live in 41k that I have trouble believing anyone is fucking

Fucking to have kids

[serene sage]

Okay, look, if we bring facts and logic into 40k

[zealous wyvern]

that is the question you all need to answer

[serene sage]

It's trash

no consistency

[slow spade]

Speak for yourself. I'm an Ork main 💅💅💅

[serene sage]

1M SMs can't even hold a planet, let alone the galaxy

[strange sparrow]

Ok vegetable how bout you beat it

[slow spade]

UwU

[serene sage]

so I would say people fucking under pressure is the most believable part of it

[strange sparrow]

[zealous wyvern]

yeah

[serene sage]

also most citizens are poor

poor people fuck

[zealous wyvern]

its very believable

[serene sage]

simple as

[zealous wyvern]

especially because most worlds arent actually at war right now

they just get conscripted

[sharp ember]

oh to be a fleshborer inside a tyranid’s venom blaster

[zealous wyvern]

so before then, they get to make babies

[strange sparrow]

But seriously, I just can’t imagine people would be fucking in 41k because living in one is probably the most suffocating

[zealous wyvern]

theyre hardy people

they can do it

otherwise they would all die already

[serene sage]

Somehow medieval humans still fuck

[strange sparrow]

Like imagine you live in a miner world or a mechanicus forge world

[zealous wyvern]

this isnt about nox

[serene sage]

A lot

[midnight totem]

Found the genestealer cultist

[strange sparrow]

That’s because medieval life isn’t that bad

[serene sage]

Industrial Revolution English people fuck

they work 12 hours a day

before labor law

[zealous wyvern]

40k life isnt bad either

its hard

its demanding

are you in need of inquiry?

[slate sleet]

lol

[serene sage]

I think you're exaggerating lives in other Imperial world

[strange sparrow]

Ok let me rephrase, they don’t work meaningless work that can’t be observed

Like medieval world probably just farming right

[untold mulch]

Remindwr that novels are not written about the little planet that was kinda fine for centuries

[serene sage]

Most planets are for the war effort, they are at war but they are not the front line battlefield

[zealous wyvern]

neither do the citizens of the Imperium

[serene bough]

I find it an interesting parallel that we discuss the 41st millenium as an absolute nightmare (because it is) of unfathomable cruelty, but when you read books on the human perspective of the universe you're reminded that its still us (humans) in the setting, with all the flaws, passions, fears, and anything else that makes you a normal person

[strange sparrow]

But like HiveWorld

That shit have so much human density

[zealous wyvern]

what do you mean nightmare

nonsense

[slate sleet]

fart the wrong way? turned into servitor

[zealous wyvern]

have you read the books

[serene bough]

in that sense, its not really difficult to imagine people do "normal" things

[untold mulch]

Nurgle taint

[zealous wyvern]

just be loyal and work

[slow spade]

Should have been born as a noble 💅💅💅

[slate sleet]

missed your rent payment? turned into a doorknob

[midnight totem]

Smh, just fart the right way

[zealous wyvern]

why are you missing your rent payment?

[sharp ember]

oh to be a assembly line worker doing 18-hour shifts 7 days a week

[zealous wyvern]

yes

there is a good man

[serene bough]

18 hours? light work

[slow spade]

Does something wrong -> expects to not be punished

Sounds like a heretic to me

[zealous wyvern]

18 hours is not at all normal

thats pretty extreme

[slow spade]

20 hours is though

[zealous wyvern]

even in 40k

that is like

[slow spade]

Yeah extremely light

[slate sleet]

rogue trader has some servitor who was a normal citizen who did literally nothing wrong, the clerk lost his payment so the arbetes came in, hauled him away and he got turned into a servitor

40k isnt so bad bro

[zealous wyvern]

we are literally about to be overrun and NEED shells produced

and then the workers WILL do it

because they know

they will die if they dont

[serene sage]

What, my Frostpunk colony can't hear you over the overtime bell

[zealous wyvern]

from the enemy

[slow spade]

Shouldn't have let it be lost

[untold mulch]

Yep on a realistic sense

The stupid hour shifts are when shit hit the fan

[zealous wyvern]

which is when you as a worker KNOW this isnt nonsense

[strange sparrow]

Like if you’re a dude living in ultramar, I would believe that people do be fucking there

[zealous wyvern]

and not meaningless

[strange sparrow]

The power of excel is just that much stronger

But some forgeworld by mechanicus just aren’t getting me any idea of fucking

[zealous wyvern]

guilliman carefully managing the lightning in his city to optimise moods for citizens to fuck

[strange sparrow]

Like you work average 16 hours per day at high intensive heat and labour

[elder fiber]

ultramarines don't even know what sex is

[untold mulch]

Forgeworlds I assume the most is imported or vat grown

[strange sparrow]

You come back to your shitty room, you would be drop dead

[sharp ember]

oh to be a voidship serf reloading a giant cannon by pulling on a whale-sized missile with really long ropes

[serene sage]

ultramar is a realm though, a big one

[slow spade]

Also isn't Ultramar under attack in the Plague Wars?

[zealous wyvern]

YES

[strange sparrow]

Ultramar people live a higher standard of living compared to rest of the entire Imperium

[slow spade]

Its like actively one of the shittiest places right bow

[untold mulch]

What isnt under attack?

[zealous wyvern]

krieg isnt under attack

[strange sparrow]

Mr primarch got daddy blessing and beat up nurgle

[slow spade]

The difference is its Ku'gath + Mortarian+ Typhus

[untold mulch]

They attacked themselves to compensate

[zealous wyvern]

your point?

[untold mulch]

None

[zealous wyvern]

still not under attack

[slow spade]

Ah true

[zealous wyvern]

[serene sage]

right now? I can concretely say CADIA

[zealous wyvern]

true

[sharp ember]

[zealous wyvern]

but what doesnt exist cant be attacked either

[strange sparrow]

Even throne world have fuckin nids

[zealous wyvern]

so i wouldnt count that

[strange sparrow]

[sharp ember]

cadia is constantly under attack

because cadia STANDS

[strange sparrow]

Cadia is now a part of empreyum

[serene sage]

yeah stands no chance more like

[slow spade]

CADIA LIVES

[slate sleet]

cant wait for rowboat gullibleman to fix the empire (its a unfixable shithole)

[strange sparrow]

in pieces

[untold mulch]

Remember Cadia sacrifice

Chaos lost a Blackstone fortress

[zealous wyvern]

i wonder what happens when a non-cadian says "cadia stands" to a cadian

[strange sparrow]

The planet broke before the guard is the biggest copium

[zealous wyvern]

do they beat them up?

[strange sparrow]

[untold mulch]

I mean

It did

[zealous wyvern]

is it like a "you cant say it. only we can say it" scenario?

[untold mulch]

Cadia broke

[strange sparrow]

L

[untold mulch]

And guardsmen were still fighting

[serene sage]

Where is the enemy? points to the Eye of Terror
Where is Terra? points to the starmap
Where is Cadia? vaguely gesture everywhere

[zealous wyvern]

cadians are loyal servants and mocking them is heresy

[strange sparrow]

Should have battle group silver dawn shoot at the heretics

Instead of YOLO at ABANDON SHIP

[midnight totem]

There are still guardsmen on the chunks of Cadia fighting

[strange sparrow]

THATS HAS BEEN FOREVER

[slow spade]

I can't wait to read the latest codex and hear more about how Cadia beat back the Black Crusade once more c:

[dreamy scaffold]

yeah the ground was splitting and lava was coming out, guardsmen were still killing cultists

[sharp ember]

cadians will know if you mean it or not

[zealous wyvern]

so if you mean it they are ok with you saying it?

[untold mulch]

IF YOU CAN BREATH, YOU CAN KILL

[strange sparrow]

They’re probably okay considering so many off-world use Cadia military style thou isn’t it

[sharp ember]

mileage may vary

[dreamy scaffold]

meh, from what ive seen, they see it as a split second morale boost, followed by sorrow

[serene sage]

The planet broke before the guards.
Y'know, not quite a good brag because the guards were supposed to protect the planet.
You don't see a bodyguard running around saying "The president died before the bodyguards."
Yeah no shit because you suck at your jobs. Stop talking about it.

[strange sparrow]

Like a fuck lot of world use Cadia military style

[zealous wyvern]

not a point when they crashed the biggest chaos ship ever into the planet. what are the guard gonna do

[untold mulch]

I mean when it was thrown an incalculable fortress to destroy it

Isnt that much of an L

[dreamy scaffold]

realistically, and ik its copium, the navy were mostly at fault, i mean you wanna tell those guardsmen on the ground that if they dont stop that blackstone fortress, their planet is gonna die?

[midnight totem]

Point being, Cadians will be fine.

[serene sage]

idk, git gud?

[strange sparrow]

Not have battlegroup silverdawn yolo their ship at the despoiler

[untold mulch]

Shoot their lasguns up

[sharp ember]

everyone point your lasguns at the blackstone fortress in the sky

[slow spade]

Cadia should have had its own blackstone fortress clearly

[zealous wyvern]

to discount the accomplishment of the troops in their respective capabilities is not right

[dreamy scaffold]

not a chaos ship, and yes there was nothing they could do

[strange sparrow]

Cadian shouldn’t turn traitor to begin

[zealous wyvern]

i mean it was used by chaos

not that it was made by chaos

[serene sage]

Listen, Starcraft Space Marines can shoot down Battlecruisers flagships with their standard issue Gauss Rifles
40k SMs need to do some self reflection

[dreamy scaffold]

cadia is basicallt rock and the occasional blackstone piece

[strange sparrow]

There’s like a segment where half the cadian regiment turn traitorous something

[serene sage]

all I'm saying

[dreamy scaffold]

fair

[zealous wyvern]

that is actually hilarious

[midnight totem]

All they have to do is find a few new planets, colonize them, have lots of sex, make new Cadians, on New Cadia

[zealous wyvern]

protos mothership dying to one marine following it around

i hope cadia and krieg get a new world assigned to them

happened before

[serene sage]

xenos tech ain't shit

and the mothership can literally summon blackholes btw

[dreamy scaffold]

i mean, in the linka mesk novels, after cadia fell, the highest ranking officer left alive went “sigh okay guys, lets go get another planet and repopulate”

[strange sparrow]

Smh, Wiki still yet to update about Cadia

[zealous wyvern]

they both deserve it

[strange sparrow]

It’s still an entire planet

[serene sage]

but Gauss rifles > Blackholes

[strange sparrow]

Rather than dust and ashes

[midnight totem]

Exactly

[zealous wyvern]

interesting

[dreamy scaffold]

no.. its mostly dust and ashes

[zealous wyvern]

i havent read those

i am on ciaphus cain

found the trilogy bound in the store i was at

[sonic elk]

GIVE EM THE OLD KASRKIN DOUBLE TAP

[frank basin]

Did someone said gauss rifle from fallout?

[sonic elk]

FOR CREED!

[untold mulch]

CLOSE. KILL. AND DO IT AGAIN

[serene sage]

no, starcraft

[frank basin]

Oh

[zealous wyvern]

gauss rifle from 40k?

[slate sleet]

cadia cringe

[zealous wyvern]

youre cringe

[untold mulch]

Cadian Vet is peak ham

[slate sleet]

only non cringe faction in 40k is ORKZ

[sonic elk]

I WANNA HEAR EM SCREAM

[zealous wyvern]

xenos

[serene sage]

I think Bolt rifle is the equivalent of Guass rifles?

[frank basin]

Wtf is ham?

[zealous wyvern]

it just is

[slate sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[jovial aurora]

Man I need to go through my other builds

[midnight totem]

Give me a dozen Starcraft marines with stimpacks. The Vengeful Spirit is gonna get destroyed

[zealous wyvern]

dont forget the medivac

[strange sparrow]

Remember Cadia probably wouldn’t fall if Volscani Cataphracts didn’t betray them

Fr

[jovial aurora]

Vet is so fucking strong at grade 5 now that I got some build cohesion going for it

[strange sparrow]

Didn’t even root out the heresy

The planet was doomed to be purged

[zealous wyvern]

good to hear your report

[sonic elk]

CADIA STANDS, CADIA LIVES!

[frank basin]

Cadia lives matter?

[serene sage]

we are unironically a little OP, not by much, but it's something

[jovial aurora]

Only thing I'm iffy on is curios

[junior needle]

It's mostly VOC

[strange sparrow]

Something as in Plasma player

[slate sleet]

every class is op right now

[junior needle]

And plasma

[zealous wyvern]

krieg lives matter
every single one counts

[slate sleet]

probably because the game is ez

[strange sparrow]

Killing everything because I can kill anything

[sonic elk]

I spent 9 dollars on cadian armor at the hallowettes shop

I do not regret it

[jovial aurora]

I'm running all toughness with +5 tough on all of the curios and +5 health and than Gunner bomber and flamer resist

[nova lagoon]

can someone tell me what this means

[slate sleet]

i did ogryn games today on my invincible build, my entire team went down to snipers while i facetanked 3 of them because ogryn is literally unkillable if you have stuff to melee

[sonic elk]

You kill shit good

[untold mulch]

Crit and weakspot hits

[slate sleet]

psyker is absurd in every way

[midnight totem]

I'm told bomber doesn't work properly

[slate sleet]

zealot is probably really strong but i really dont like it

[frank basin]

Headshot damage and critical damage

[jovial aurora]

Psyker is okay but glassy

[nova lagoon]

i like this explaination thank you

[slate sleet]

umm no

[jovial aurora]

Strange

[nova lagoon]

aright ty

[slate sleet]

psyker is turbo strong

[nova lagoon]

aright ty

[slate sleet]

strongest class in the game by far

[untold mulch]

I wish a gunner line in the tree for this

[midnight totem]

And by bomber, its supposed to mean poxburster

[sonic elk]

Always glad to give a laugh

[slate sleet]

smite psyonics psyker is untouchable

[jovial aurora]

Not saying you're wrong but the 60 percent I have on my ogryn seems to work well

Wait what

[vernal harbor]

me but i dont miss

[serene sage]

until a boss appears

[elfin stump]

Starcraft marines are a joke cause protectors of man soldiers, which are literal imperial guard troops, have the same health in game

[dreamy scaffold]

i mean, that whole war started with it so, yeah maybe

theyd have their command structure

big plus ig

[untold mulch]

The power armor steals the soldier fighting spirit

[serene sage]

clearly you don't play SC

[slate sleet]

whip out ye olde dueling sword and poke it to death

[jovial aurora]

Smite is a tool not a build lol

[elfin stump]

Also they die to quite literal dogs and blow needles

[jovial aurora]

I'm told if you're building to complement smite you're doing it wrong

Also psyker is Hella glassy

[dreamy scaffold]

as is its purpose

[frank basin]

Glassy lmao

[slate sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/uncut-gems-disagree-i-disagree-adam-sandler-eye-glasses-gif-17788346

[sonic elk]

I just wanna shoot and stab things, sir.

Maybe throw a krak grenade or two, as well.

[jovial aurora]

Not saying it's a bad thing

[untold mulch]

Als Psyker regenerating Toughness by existing

[dreamy scaffold]

i just wanna stab things

[jovial aurora]

Na that's the vet my guy

[midnight totem]

@jovial aurora https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17nn4cw/i_scraped_through_the_source_code_to_understand/?rdt=53246

[elfin stump]

I play coop
I'm on another level it's not above the regular

[serene sage]

krak is overrated, use frag as your default option unless you can't kill carapce for whatever reasons

[slate sleet]

psyonics psyker can literally kill the entire wave without needing to stop smiting with venting shriek

[midnight totem]

Hope that helps!

[dreamy scaffold]

no, big boom funey

[dreamy scaffold]

discord light mode

[sonic elk]

I'm gonna politely disagree.

I love seeing a mauler get turned into a red paste, sir.

[serene sage]

a vet with a good PS can do the same but faster and no loss in FPS

[jovial aurora]

Krak are goated

[midnight totem]

Look the Emperor doesn't mind if use light mode as long as I kill heretics

[jovial aurora]

The "I win" button is g, sire

[dreamy scaffold]

i can carry 3 krak grenades and im not allowed to use them?

[slate sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414

[serene sage]

well if it's preference then enjoy, friend
im just saying from an "optimal" build perspective, most optimized builds won't use krak

[dreamy scaffold]

i humbly agree to disagree

[slate sleet]

powersword muh powersword

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-24243729

[sonic elk]

I just wanna be a Kasrkin, that's all.

[dreamy scaffold]

i have yet to even attempt to make a “optimal build”

[untold mulch]

Hotshot lasgun any day kow

[dreamy scaffold]

if it sounds strong, ima use it

[slate sleet]

there is absolutely no way they are not adding in a heavy weapons vet option at some point

[midnight totem]

Probably true, but I like my krak grenades

[sonic elk]

Kraks go boom and turn heretics into mist.

Can't get any better than that.

[midnight totem]

I also like shredder frags

[untold mulch]

Shredder is my fav

[midnight totem]

We should get an option where we can carry both

[jovial aurora]

Vet has to be my all around strongest character

[sonic elk]

Smoke grenades are just completely useless, in my opinion.

Shredders just aren't...beefy enough for me.

[jovial aurora]

But also the char I got with the best gear curios aside so take that with a grain of salt

[sonic elk]

Kraks have weight and oomph.

[elfin stump]

Admechs would turn you into a servitor

[jovial aurora]

Me likey tinkered krak

The I win button for anything aside from demon hosts

[midnight totem]

It's called the Emperor's light, not the Emperor's dark mode

[jovial aurora]

And I pull one out of my prison pocket every half minute or so

[nova lagoon]

is there a way to tell how much crit strike chance we have on our characters with everything equipped or other various stats

[sonic elk]

Say "screw it" and have a good go at swinging at heretics.

[nova lagoon]

lol fair enough

[serene sage]

#veteran-class message

waiting until the day krak can do half what shredder can

[sonic elk]

Sefoni can help in that regard, I believe.

[midnight totem]

Also, I really like opening Salvo on my vraks 7

Much better then deadly accurate

[elfin stump]

The fabled non crit v7

[sonic elk]

I just like me kraks, simple as.

[midnight totem]

I have opening Salvo 4 and head hunter 4

I save the surgical and deadly accurate for my vraks 3

[serene sage]

is opening salvo the 10% crit chance one but as a blessing?

[midnight totem]

No

Up to 20 percent power on first shot

[midnight totem]

It's a single shot gun

[serene sage]

do you ever comment or just post scoreboard then leave

[gray finch]

yes

[midnight totem]

So a slight delay and every shot gets opening salvo

[wanton dawn]

Tbf that's a good way to avoid argument

[elfin stump]

Does it one tap ragers?

[serene sage]

no it's not
im aruging about this

[sonic elk]

Big numbers make head hurt, I just shoot until somethings dead.

[elfin stump]

Shoot until something's dead? I just shoot until I'm out of ammo.

[sonic elk]

No no no, you got it wrong, big man.

If it's until somethings dead, you save ammo, ammo that can kill more, and ammo saved is more you can expend on bigger Karkers.

Therefore, you can spend all your ammo on those Karking Hel monsters!

And possibly, die in a Karking grand way!

[elfin stump]

I usually die in a karking silly way

[sonic elk]

So long as it's somehow glorious, it's a good way!

[elfin stump]

Idk if it's a good indicator but on all my failed runs I'm usually the last to fall

I hope people I put between me and the horde appreciate that

[gaunt hinge]

on all my failed runs i have all the yellow numbers

[jovial aurora]

Does maniac apply to all the stupid rager types

[inland orchid]

Nuh uh the armored one are flak

[jovial aurora]

Lol wtf

[gaunt hinge]

shooting things in the meat grinder will tell you armor type

[elfin stump]

Not to scab ones

[inland orchid]

Also both flamers are manic, despite one of them having flak armor covering him

[jovial aurora]

Well yeah but like doesn't maniac apply to muties too?

[elfin stump]

It does

[gaunt hinge]

this is what happens when machines take over

[inland orchid]

Autofill getting this man killed, no wonder we had a AI war

[jovial aurora]

Wait so if revolver just naturally has breakpoint to ragers and flamers and the like is it just a wasted perk?

[elfin stump]

I think to bomber to?

Not sure

[gaunt hinge]

flak unarmored

[sonic elk]

Karking Abominable Intelligence...

[jovial aurora]

On my build/gun

[inland orchid]

Ya flak body unarmored head

[slate sleet]

🥱

[zealous wyvern]

now the other thing

[elfin stump]

Yep
Unless it somehow messes with mutie too

[zealous wyvern]

i want to see the other one

[elfin stump]

If you can oneshot dreg rager you don't need maniac damage

[inland orchid]

Oh shit guys act normal the commissar is here

[zealous wyvern]

that is a green cap

[inland orchid]

Oh FUCK he brought a friend

[peak badge]

no the pants are green

[jovial aurora]

It do affect the mutie but either way it's a 2 shot for me

[wanton dawn]

Does a mustache and a cap makes you a commissar ?

[sonic elk]

Oh Kark, an Armageddon Steel Legion and the average Commissar?

We're properly Karked now...

[zealous wyvern]

why are you all being like this

theyre just showing that the new hat doesnt fit anything colourwise

which i will now check

[zealous wyvern]

what is that one about

[sonic elk]

He looks like he stole his grandpappys helmet and wants to be just like him.

[peak badge]

makes me think they'll release the officers outfit in a sandy color

[zealous wyvern]

ah

the hat has the same colour as the cadian cloth doesnt it

its definitely not green i see that now

[jovial aurora]

So if on my build and revolver blessingless I'm 2 tapping muties and one tapping dreg rager with headshots should I just go for more weakspot or crit and maybe reload since I haven't specced unto any reload perks?

[zealous wyvern]

why do you want more headshot damage

if you already oneshot

why not go for something else instead

[jovial aurora]

Weakspot for maulers crushers and bossing?

[zealous wyvern]

what about rending

[jovial aurora]

I got Krak for bosses but I feel like you should never depend on that solely

[jovial aurora]

Dis the tree

She's tough as shit even on damnation is my favorite part

I really only use my voc when teammates get in trouble so the build all in itself is pretty durable

[daring cave]

Is this the reward for Karnac twins with the bells ?

[wanton dawn]

ye

[daring cave]

Thx ! 👌 Gonna need to do that at some point then

[jovial aurora]

I wish the game would have just a overall breakdown of buffs from builds lol

Sooooo does unyielding affect crushers

[zealous wyvern]

the hat is meant for the cadia set

[peak badge]

ahh ok thanks

[jovial aurora]

I guess I can't get rid of 10 percent weak spot damage

[jovial aurora]

Any thoughts on this? The idea is to have no real weak spots, just all purpose grab a gun or melee of your choice and go crazy

[inland orchid]

Do u have fun with it?

Looks very fun considering you got all the red nodes props to you for that

Seems good for what u designed it for, a Swiss Army knife of a guardsman

[hoary stratus]

no, crushers are carapace only. unyielding is an armor type that only monstrosities, bulwarks, and reapers have
see here: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies

[serene orbit]

holy crap i just parried a daemonhost to death

i love the devil's claw

[umbral scaffold]

DH probably confused how you can match its warp chaos

[jovial aurora]

What lol

[muted knot]

Holy shit man the people you meet in auric damnation

How does an ogryn do 166k damage over a 35 minute game ?

A skullbreaker ogryn nonetheless

[cold mason]

Been away for a while. Anyone got a good plasma build? Looking for either support vet or big damage vet.

[jovial aurora]

Mine would work well for support and big damage

[serene orbit]

Devil Claw can parry bosses and do some pretty big chunks of damage while defending you

[jovial aurora]

Weird. I'm on devils claw rn but I'm tryna make the switch to mkiv chain sword if hadron beseeches so

[serene orbit]

devil's claw isn't the strongest melee weapon for pure throughput, but yeah it's saved my ass a lot because of the parry

[jovial aurora]

I never remember when i need it. Good lawnmower for hordes and easy out of tight spots tho

[inland orchid]

I feel ya on that pal I be forgetting my parry till I get smacked by a rager strike or 2

Then I’m like “don’t I got something for this? Oh ya”

[serene orbit]

you remember quick when you accidentally trigger a daemonhost i guess lol

[noble charm]

propaganda posters for the militarum

[wanton dawn]

Reddit discovering melee vet can kill cs quickly

I know what I must do

brb

[inland orchid]

Me agroing the DH because I was snagging a large pile of plasteel: “worth “ as I’m getting my face mauled and rended

[chrome ember]

What's the best shovel rn?

[inland orchid]

Depends what u want, discount power hamma or decent Swiss Army knife

[north peak]

power shovel

[inland orchid]

Ya screw my answers that’s the correct answer

[chrome ember]

Hmm, I noticed there's a new chainsword too

[inland orchid]

[zealous wyvern]

its only worth if you can trust your team to not run past all the resources on the way to your rescue

[inland orchid]

Valid, I may have gotten one pile but what about the rest

[inland orchid]

Yea it got strikedown for its 1st swing on heavy, pretty interesting

There’s even a biggerer version of it for the zel

[slender turtle]

The empereor's proudest digger

[wind patio]

Too bad there's no good combos for new chainsword

[thick wolf]

the krieg's finest invention

[chrome ember]

Is stealth vet with mk3 knife viable?

[north peak]

just waiting for a chain shovel now

[slender turtle]

What do you mean. The new chainsword is fucking fast like a knife but better. Even more so on a zealot

[wind patio]

It's mostly that the settups are awkward. Speed is irrelevant if its optimal combos are hard to immediately access.

[slender turtle]

Its light attacks are where its at mostly. The heavies, i will admit just kind of suck

[wind patio]

For instance, knife had options for both horde clear and single target

[wanton dawn]

HEARD MELEE VET WAS GOOD AT SOLOING SPAWN

HELLO REDDIT

[zealous wyvern]

why would you do this

you will get the bayonet nerfed

[umbral scaffold]

Agrabah - 1087

[slender turtle]

Horde clear
no. Just absolutely no. I keep hearing this but the gameplay ive seen, it does not have it. Its all single target damage and will not outclear a competent chainsword user or even catachan sword

[umbral scaffold]

why would you ever use the knife for horde clear

[slender turtle]

God forbid its against an combat axe

[north peak]

got to practice surviving in the street of London

[umbral scaffold]

brits have an advantage since they already know what to expect

[cold mason]

is the keystone worth it nowadays?

[umbral scaffold]

most enemies with melee weapons have knives or blunt objects

[thick wolf]

and Birmingham

[finite imp]

because fast

[thick wolf]

I mean

[umbral scaffold]

power sword:

chainsword:

[thick wolf]

Atoma is the 40K's equivalent of Great Britain

[finite imp]

SNOOZING

[thick wolf]

and Necromunda is Brazil

[finite imp]

SLEEPY

[umbral scaffold]

I LOVE THE POWER SWORD

[finite imp]

JUST 5 MORE MINUTES MOM IM USING THE POWER SWORD

[umbral scaffold]

THE POWER SWORD IS GOOD YOU MUST USE IT

[north peak]

especially Birmingham, end-game zone man

[finite imp]

ZZZZZ

[umbral scaffold]

You will use the Power Sword.

You will enjoy it.

[thick wolf]

Auric operations ARE Birmingham

[umbral scaffold]

Say the line, PowerSwordjak!

[finite imp]

youll have to pry my knives out of my cold dead hands

[north peak]

deadass

[umbral scaffold]

“BBZZZRRRRZZTTT”

[thick wolf]

Richard Hammond is lucky he survived Birmingham

[umbral scaffold]

“SHHHWING”

[frosty girder]

just got my Make Every Shot Count on a low-vis fogged level. Stay strong in His name vets

[umbral scaffold]

Haha so funny PowerSwordjak!

[finite imp]

omg he activated the power sword again

[umbral scaffold]

POWER CYCLER 4

[thick wolf]

is it on assassination mission

[umbral scaffold]

I LOVVVCE POWER CYCLER 4

I LOVE THE POWR SWOR

[finite imp]

got that shit on accident and was like damn cuz

too bad im a knife stan

[umbral scaffold]

I don’t know what to pair with it tbh

[vernal harbor]

hate this community lol

[umbral scaffold]

I still have slaughterer 3 on it

[finite imp]

brutal momentum

[terse idol]

Brutal mkmentau

[finite imp]

^

he beat me to it

[umbral scaffold]

is bromentum 4 required

[finite imp]

no

[noble charm]

you love me

[umbral scaffold]

or can I pass off a 3

[finite imp]

brutal momentum is so good it basically makes the cleave stat irrelevant

[north peak]

momentum better then slaugtherer?

[frosty girder]

nah raid

[wind patio]

You're missing the point.
I'm saying the optimal combos for horde clear are instantly accessible, as are single target.

The new chainsword is forced to initiate with single target strikedowns.

[umbral scaffold]

That’s Sigma.

[umbral scaffold]

on power sword I suppose so

I think slaughter is just flat damage buff after killing enemies

[finite imp]

what gun do you use? don't say plasma gun

[umbral scaffold]

I have to check when I get home

I obviously use the Plasma.

[finite imp]

UGH

[umbral scaffold]

Do you think I am stupid?

Little adopted. Mutant.

[finite imp]

JOHN DARKTIDE OVER HERE

[umbral scaffold]

Fatty mutant.

No Genecode.

[frosty girder]

Yes plasma lol. Dropped all scavenger/survivor perks and anything that gave me more ammo

[north peak]

it gives power i think dmg/cleave/impact

[umbral scaffold]

I LOOOOOVE PLASMA

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-kek-gif-14767466

[umbral scaffold]

in that case bromentum would be better I suppose

[slender turtle]

With how fast it swings, that single target swing is just a nice mix to smack the occasional special that comes running into your flurry

[jovial aurora]

Yes

[umbral scaffold]

since activated power sword one taps hordes on heresy anyways

[frosty girder]

tried several times with shotty/revolver but kept wiping. plasma was more useful to the team

[finite imp]

mfw i see a powersworder plasma gun combo

[umbral scaffold]

I think it does on damnation too

[frosty girder]

also i think shotty is bugged *for MESC

[jovial aurora]

It's a free 20 percent damage even without extra stacks for your whole team

Supportive

[umbral scaffold]

I still need to fix my plasma

[inland orchid]

It still shoot good, it just a lil shy to show it

[umbral scaffold]

I have Gets Hot 3 and that one increased charge blessing after overheat

[north peak]

I mean for the occasional rager crusher through an horde on damn its decent

[wind patio]

Alright, if you say so.
But, being forced into those combos are a detriment, and inoptimal for flow, which is what makes a weapon high tier

[umbral scaffold]

I can 1v1 ragers with power sword

simply cuz I’m not stupid like a majority of DT players

[serene sage]

*Every 8s for one target

[umbral scaffold]

“HOW DID HE HIT ME”
4 dodges:

[north peak]

helps to have a brain ye

[serene sage]

Still good though

[umbral scaffold]

I LOVE PLASMA AND POWER SWORD

[finite imp]

knife is better

[slender turtle]

If it means more damage output per swing and better horde clear, I'll take it.

[finite imp]

you just need to be okay with early adult onset arthritis

[umbral scaffold]

@finite imp WANNA KNOW WJAT ELSE I RUN

INRUN VOICE OF COMMAND

VOC SPAM!!!!

[finite imp]

VOC is good

[umbral scaffold]

I LOOOOVE IT!!!

[finite imp]

It's the best ability

[umbral scaffold]

PLASMA POWER SWORD VOC SPAM WITH CONCENTRATION STIMM

[finite imp]

i mean you're kinda crutching yourself with that

[umbral scaffold]

I love it…it’s pure brainrot….

[finite imp]

what happens when they nerf PS and PG

[north peak]

still any XII main or are we extinct?

[umbral scaffold]

back to ogryn…

never touching veteran again…

[finite imp]

it sounds like you don't really enjoy vet all that much then. Maybe ogryn is your true calling?

[umbral scaffold]

I love melee vet…

[finite imp]

ogryns are imo the most honorable class

[umbral scaffold]

I get to smash specials without needing to run 30 meters to reach a gunner

I can just one tap him with a plasma

[finite imp]

ogryns are pure of heart and dumb of ass

[umbral scaffold]

I’m here to chew RASHUN. And kick ASS.

And I’m all outta Rashuns.

[jovial aurora]

Yeah I honestly don't know why people build up to it but don't take it as often as they do too it's kind of a no brainer lol. 20 percent damage gib is huge especially when it's for everyone in your team

[serene sage]

Chew ass kick rations

[serene sage]

People don't like tagging

[jovial aurora]

I prefer the tag from this over the dumb big icon the regular tag puts over things

[umbral scaffold]

it’s too much effort to press middle mouse dude…….

just let me hold m1…ugh…

[jovial aurora]

This game makes me wanna play on controller if it weren't so good with mouse lol

The dodge spam and slide stuff is much easier on a gamepad

[rare pumice]

Anyone have a good skill tree build for the bolt gun that they’re willing to share?

[umbral scaffold]

use the plasma….use the plasma….

use the plasma vegeta…USE THE PLASMA….

https://tenor.com/view/babidi-dragon-ball-gif-11591104228073020682

USE THE PLASMA VEGETA…

[rare pumice]

Plasma that good? I’ve always been told the bolt gun is the best for the veteran class?

[serene sage]

It's one of the OP trio of Plasma Revolver Columnus

[umbral scaffold]

I’ll keep it straight with u bro plasma is just straight up better than bolter

[north peak]

whoever told you that hate your guts

[rare pumice]

Hopefully the emperor can gift me a good one after a mission so I can make a build for it

[serene sage]

If you want to turn your brain off and play, Plasma is for you

[rare pumice]

I currently run a bolt gun with a chainsaw axe

[umbral scaffold]

I LOOOOOVE THE PLASSSMAAAA!!!!

[serene sage]

Bolter unironically needs some adjusting

And time to play well

Plasma is just simply too strong rn

[slender turtle]

Swap speed PLEASE. It works incredibly with zealot but not really on veteran

[cunning holly]

I still not convinced that is not the case

[umbral scaffold]

plasma is just outright better

[serene sage]

It's good on vet, just not OP level

[umbral scaffold]

faster swap speed, better horde control, better penetration? (probably me talking out of my ass)

and you don’t need 4 rounds to kill a rager

[serene sage]

You say that but in the past 40 games or so, no plasma gunner had out damage or out kill me on the Bolter

[umbral scaffold]

you can one tap them w a headshot on plasma

[serene sage]

Skill matters as well

[umbral scaffold]

THEY ARE DOING IT WRONG!!!!

I’m the only good Plasma User, Clearly…

[inland orchid]

Both are big guns that do big damage

[slender turtle]

Literally, on zealot, if you charge you will get a glimpse to what the bolter was like at launch

[serene sage]

40 game sample in AT5M?

I'm just built different

[inland orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[rare pumice]

Well shit you guys just gave me a new bit of knowledge. Do you guys suggest I buy the plasma at the armory or should I try and get it as a reward for completing a mission?

[inland orchid]

Armory could be a lil better but if u don’t wanna use el money the latter is a good idea

[umbral scaffold]

if you want to be completely brain dead try get a good roll from armoury

[serene sage]

Get a Plasma in Brunt shop, you want high damage and high stopping power.

[north peak]

ngl if they could just remove the bolter burst on the hipfire i would consider it more i hate it

[umbral scaffold]

it just makes the game ridiculously easy considering the plasma charge time on a primary

it’s like half a second for near enough to 600 damage

one taps ragers on headshot on heresy

then you can charge it for almost triple that

[serene sage]

Bolter can one tap head shot on Damnation too tbf

[umbral scaffold]

that’s true but slightly harder to aim

[serene sage]

But generally Plasma is easier to use, I agre

[rare pumice]

Got it! Appreciate it guys! Been new to the game and im@hooked, already made it to lvl 30 and im on my last and most difficult penance.

[umbral scaffold]

the bolter sway threw me off hard one day and never used it since

[rare pumice]

Finished dead eye penance now I have to complete one more to earn “for the emperor” penance

[copper pine]

Well it's recoil animation bugs out occasionally

[umbral scaffold]

it’s very fun watching a plasma shot go off and seeing “[dumbass_name] killed Dreg Rager” 7 times

[serene sage]

They buffed it but people don't want to test it.
With ExecStance and deadshot you have no recoil (the animation will show but there's actually no recoil)

[umbral scaffold]

the penetration on humanoid enemies is like a fucking missile

[serene sage]

Without you have a little recoil but nothing you can't work with

[umbral scaffold]

yeah I just found plasma to be more fun

[ruby moss]

loads plasma gun with malicious intent

[umbral scaffold]

the bolter is good, but the plasma is just better in most areas

if it had a couple improvements like swap speed and a little bit of sway reduction id probably use it more

[jovial aurora]

There's gets hot iv in the milkman store

Should I grab that?

[umbral scaffold]

the reload speed is much better on bolter in comparison to plasma

[jovial aurora]

Bolter got that dummy thicc burst damage

[copper pine]

You can sprint cancel both guns reload anyways

[jovial aurora]

Looking back in left top tree and its just softer than dog shit

[umbral scaffold]

HHHHHhhh actual bruh moment

[serene sage]

Definitely!

[jovial aurora]

I gotta go home a hour early and speed run some grade 3s fast for more milk money

[thick wolf]

very aggressive recon lasgun reload animation

[tranquil bronze]

Although I did mess up on building this... this setup is working surprisingly well

[zealous wyvern]

why is she punching her gun

[gaunt hinge]

how to spot people who have never used a recon

[rare pumice]

Is the helbor any good? Or should I go with an any of the auto guns?

[tranquil bronze]

Right now, I think you're better off with the CIAG

[thick wolf]

Mk II mainly for its broken melee

[tranquil bronze]

CIAG is the meta

[inland orchid]

Autoguns got a lil more ease of use compared to “hold to fire” helbore

[rare pumice]

What’s that?

[inland orchid]

Saves ur finger some stress

[tranquil bronze]

Columnus Infantry Autogun

[rare pumice]

Got it I appreciate the heads up

[rare pumice]

Can I buy that at brunt’s or is it something that is rewarded after a mission?

[elfin stump]

Just why

[thick wolf]

I think of autoguns as "the lazy man's gun"

[tranquil bronze]

I got this at brunt and build it with Hadron

[thick wolf]

no thinking required of usingi t

just spray and pray

or the space ak

[inland orchid]

No problem Helbore’s pop off but it takes a blessing that decreases charge time to really shoot lasers akin to infantry lasgun

[rare pumice]

Thanks man

[tranquil bronze]

Just pray you get lucky

[elfin stump]

That's Braced/Infantry
There's also headhunter

[inland orchid]

Which is also a decent option, lasguns are interesting ammo count wise but you’ll understand once u run it a bit in meat grinder

Since they use more than 1ammo per shot like el plasma

[sharp trail]

what was the reason for most lasguns using more than 1 ammo per shot

[thick wolf]

dunno

[terse idol]

Uh

[gaunt hinge]

the charge nature of lasbores makes it make sense

and the efficiency blessing for infantry las that nobody uses

[elfin stump]

Different power consumption for standardized batteries

[gaunt hinge]

for laspistol theres literally no reason

[sharp ember]

kantrael mg4 eats 2 battery instead of 3

accatran laspistol eats 2 as well

[sharp trail]

fair enough

[sharp ember]

kantrael laspistol eats 3

that ones basically a pocket mg12

[sonic elk]

Luv me Kantrael

Luv me Catachan Knife

Luv me Krak Grenades

Simple as

[elfin stump]

'Ate 'eretics
'Ate mutants(not racist just don't like em)

[sonic elk]

'Ate gunners
'Ate maulers
'Ate ragers
Simple as

[jovial aurora]

Revolver

Not that Nancy ass new one either

[sonic elk]

My one gripe with enemies is that when you try to run away, they magically slide across the floor and always hit you.

[jovial aurora]

Yeah that's dumb as hell

[sonic elk]

And they really need to tone it down with the "whoosh" effects to signify a hit.
It gets karkin' annoying in a horde hearing nothing but "whooshwhooshwhooshwhoosh"

[jovial aurora]

Or at the very least cancel them when you out of harms way

[sonic elk]

I GET IT, THERES ENEMIES SWINGING, LIKE I CANT KARKIN SEE THAT!

[sonic elk]

Yea

I also hate the gunners stunlock gunfire

[thick wolf]

psa: stub revolver

[serene sage]

I hate how bright the flames are in this game

I understand it's mean to obscure vision but fuck it hurts my eyes

[thick wolf]

Zealot flamethrower be like

[serene sage]

psyker flames are worse

[jovial aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[serene sage]

and enemies flames are exponentially worse

[inland orchid]

Woh flashbang be upon thee
copious warp flame useage goooo

[gaunt hinge]

stop playing in abject darkness 🙂

[thick wolf]

No wonder why zealots and psykers often have wack ass eyesight

[steep pier]

Just got pc and while I like it I prefer my shovel

[thick wolf]

Retinas burnt from their own flames

[serene sage]

the emperor doesn't have work comp

[thick wolf]

Not even dental

[gaunt hinge]

when will the power shovel recieve power cycler

[serene sage]

why are we an issued a shovel anyway

not like we do any digging at all

[raw steppe]

You can dig your own grave

[gaunt hinge]

you dig into enemy formations

[serene sage]

i love shoving my hot steamy plasma bullets into the enemy tight formation

[jovial aurora]

Honestly revolver peneration is fucking insane too lol

Drop half a horde if you can get them to form up

[serene sage]

oh penetration lmao

[jovial aurora]

Works good for flak packs of ragers too cuz half of em die to the almighty pen and the ones that don't are usually a one shot by the time you done with the pack

[thick wolf]

.500 S&W

[gaunt hinge]

i wish the fan revolver had better pen

[serene sage]

They should revert Revolver Rending Strike and nerf the cleave instead

So the revolver is still a one shot headshot weapon

but ONE shot should mean ONE enemy, not 5

[tranquil bronze]

I love this tac axe...

[thick wolf]

Add that with focus target keystone

[gaunt hinge]

why that keystone

[thick wolf]

It seems to work for me plus yellow highlight

[tranquil bronze]

What blessings are best for Mk IV catachan sword?

This sword from Melk useable?

Those blessings honestly look really good

[serene sage]

Rampage and Shred

[forest scaffold]

no

Rampage, Savage Sweep, Shred are the blessings you want

I prefer Rampage and Savage Sweep for the extra cleave for stagger for crowd control

[rare pumice]

Anyone know of a solid way to complete the “make every shot count” quest?

I thought overwatch was hard this thing is stressful

[inland orchid]

Either revolver or plasma is what I’ve heard, that and shotguns

[noble charm]

plasma gun, switch your aura off of the ammo replenishment, shoot big enemies, make sure to tell ur team ur doing it, and don't pick up any ammo after you run out

[flint garden]

take plasma or revolver and shoot bosses or hordes or stuff that aint moving

[serene sage]

Plasma and right click only to spend more ammo, aim your shots, obviously

[rare pumice]

Shoot alright guys I guess I’m going to be rocking the plasma for a while, thanks again for the insight!

[austere badger]

Hey guys, which columnus is the one everyone uses? The braced or infantry? And what do people throw on it?

[tall torrent]

Bricked

[tall torrent]

Do orthus offensive, bring revolver, use all ur ammo on rodin’s shield

In the final arena

[quick steeple]

can get it first try easily with plas, just only charge shoot into hordes til empty; once its empty swap off to melee and dont change back for rest of mission

[elfin stump]

Lol

[thick wolf]

The fuck happened to the icon

[forest scaffold]

its a bug with fullscreen and alt-tabbing

causes that to happen

play the game in windowed fullscreen and it'll never happen

[vernal harbor]

my ears ringing, vision blurry as im yet again rewarded a piece of shit gun after heroic deeds

[umbral scaffold]

looks like a penis

[somber grove]

i got yelled at for using my mg12 in auric lol

gun good, gun shoot good, no talk to me

[terse idol]

Revolver is also a good option

[tropic imp]

It was an ogryn wasn't it

Its the toxic class now

[terse idol]

Remeber you can miss a few shots

The more you shoot the more you can fire

Or well err

The more you miss the more shots you'll have to make to compensate

[gaunt hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-shrink-gif-21264124

[somber grove]

twas a fellow vet

[mental juniper]

hey guys, which one do you like better?

[exotic spade]

the right. cleave it up.

[muted knot]

Take the right one and change wrath to brutal momentum imo

Actually

I don't know how big the finesse difference is

[mental juniper]

[muted knot]

You might be able to Take pc4 on the left one

[unique sorrel]

does anyone else think the melee counter on WS is a bit funky? i kept cleaving down hordes and watching it only go up by 1 at a time

[muted knot]

It's per swing I believe

Still most fun keystone

[unique sorrel]

far enough, just gotta count ten instead of counting heads

[willow badger]

infantry columnus

typically dumdum/firefrenzy/deathspitter are go to blessings

[viral nacelle]

Ok so I’ve found an exe lasgun build that kinda works

Tldr: fucktons of toughness so you don’t die when things peep you. Literally obscene, stupid, absurd amounts

[ember estuary]

Terrifying Barrage or Fire Frenzy on a autogun

[tall torrent]

You can get away with a lot of blessings on infantry autoguns
Dum dum is just good
Deathspitter/fire frenzy are a bit extra dps
Raking fire is nice for stealth builds
Stripped down is very funny for dealing with mass shooters/gunners/snipers

[idle carbon]

How many of the veteran's Weapon Specialist perks do most people actually use? They all seem either underpowered or highly situational
the only one I see people use somewhat consistently is Always Prepared, and usually because they're running a revolver (which is, as we all know, very powerful atm) since it gets the most benefit out of it
Invigorated has some meme potential with deadshot, but that's about it
the rest feel meh

[willow badger]

fire frenzy

[ember estuary]

Ok

[willow badger]

terrifying barrage is not great

[tall torrent]

Always prepared is good for revolver
Regain 20% stamina on swapping to melee is good for things like power sword

Having a bit of extra stamina to play around for block/push atk combo

Especially if you’re running deadshot

[willow badger]

i'm so used to running ps6 at this point i honestly am trash when i try to use any other melee weapon haha

[idle carbon]

I feel like running WS with a power sword isn't really getting much benefit out of it

but that's just me

[willow badger]

i run WS with power sword / columnus and enjoy it

[tall torrent]

U get better dodges to offset PS’s natural bad dodges

[idle carbon]

what about the other 3 talents?

those seem thoroughly useless

[hearty panther]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HealthyArbitraryVelociraptorPeanutButterJellyTime-S0xxnSPnOWfQLb8V

what throwing knives do to a mfer

oh wait this isnt zel chat, my b

[tropic imp]

The one that reloads offhand weapon and the one that replenishes toughness are both good

[sharp moon]

any tips on this achiev? .)

[hearty panther]

throw very far

[tropic imp]

Theres tons of spots on relay station mission

[inland orchid]

The assassinate in the torrent is pretty good too, lil ascender section that has a big bridge

Perfect for tossing frags

[idle carbon]

reloads yes
but reload speed is not particularly good
the toughness is on a 3s cooldown
then there's 25% stamina cost reduction, which is pushing and sprinting, also a bit eh
maybe for power sword? not many things need that

[sharp moon]

ok, ty, so i jsut throw looking straight up? as maximum?

[inland orchid]

Straight up?

Practice a lil in meatgrinder to get a feel for the arc

[tropic imp]

And the indicator for range dissapears at the spot that the grenade will blow up

Even in the air

[viral nacelle]

Man the left side keystone is so useless

[tropic imp]

But often you cant see it cause you are looking up while aiming

[sharp moon]

thx, didnt see that, so i probably was htrowing too short then .)

[viral nacelle]

Like yeah you don’t have to 🦀 if you can aim but the bonuses aren’t even worth it for the point cost

[stray nebula]

Is there a good, up to date primer for Veteran melee weapons? The pins don't seem to have anything.

[tropic imp]

It reloads automatically from getting kills on melee

And tbh I didnt know toughness refill had a cd

I always use it and default to quickswap to ranged, fast kill, swap to melee again if I wanna top toughness off

[idle carbon]

yes I know, but that's not the talent I'm referring to
the two left ones, the top one is 3.3% reload of empty mag per stack, the bottom one grants 20% reload speed

[tropic imp]

Mb I meant the 3.3% one

[idle carbon]

the usefulness of that one is already well established

[muted knot]

It's actually pretty damn solid if you have a brain and don't just stand around

[idle carbon]

marksmans focus works fine for the most part

[terse idol]

Focus target is fine if you don't overthink it

Marksmens focus

I mean

It's fine if you don't overthink it, I'll tell everyone the same

Play marksmens focus like you play Exe stance, get headshots

And you're done

You can stand around sometimes to get extra stacks, but you only need a few headshots to get max stacks

[cunning sigil]

Is there a Veteran equivilant to the Ogrynomicon? Like, I saw there's stuff in the pins about different weapon marks and preffered perks and blessings or whatever, but it's not as readable to my ADHD and memory challenged brain meat...

[tawdry hull]

thunderous or slaughterer gives better damage on chainaxe

[delicate rivet]

Is celery stim still bugged for plasma gun?

[inland orchid]

Visually? I think so

From my shootin it still lands but it doesn’t visually show the big boom of the gun

Had it happen when tryna out plasma the male twin

[delicate rivet]

I mean it used to slow the charge

[cunning sigil]

Also, why the hell is the Lapistol's alt fire a shove that does nothing? Like if it were a real push that'd be cool, a punch would be nice too... but the laspistol shove is so puny I've never seen it do ANYthing. The animation is even feeble

[delicate rivet]

Is it fixed?

[inland orchid]

The lil baby shove is very underwhelming

Even if u look at the attack breakdown numbers the blue ones are just so tiny

You’d only be able to stagger a stray groaner or maybe a trooper for like half a second

[cunning sigil]

yeah, like a flashlight would be more useful

it's less than underwhelming really

anyways, is there a Veteranomicon?

[quartz haven]

sadly no

only ogryns have one as of now

[idle carbon]

closest thing atm is the pinned ranged primer

not sure if a melee one came out recently or not

[cunning sigil]

I mean the Zealot spreadsheet seems to have melees on them, and some of those are shared with Vet so it's better than nothing

[inland orchid]

Psykers got one too, is in pinned of the class chat

[cunning sigil]

I was just hoping forsomething more readable with crunchy words to chew on

[inland orchid]

Vets too general so it makes sense how we don’t got a guide cooked up for em

He’s got alot he has access to

Compared to psyker n ogryn having operator specific weapons that aren’t as numerous

[cunning sigil]

That is a fair point... fair as fuk

[inland orchid]

Ya hard to write a guide on something when that said something has so many options

[ruby hull]

Yeah vet doesnt have 5000 obtuse game mechanics like ogryn and psyker

[quartz haven]

huh never saw that

[inland orchid]

No one reads pinned so is understandable

[somber grove]

Veteran is has a fair bit of build variety now

[inland orchid]

Is a common habit

[wanton dawn]

Put 2 vet players in a room you will get 5 opinions in 10 minutes

[inland orchid]

Hell ya you will

[somber grove]

and they will not like eachother depending on those opinions

[inland orchid]

There’s so many options for the karkers we can FF for hours

[somber grove]

bolter users vs plasma users

[ruby hull]

Mk3 and mk6 knifes are weird. Mk6 hits so many more one shots than mk3

[somber grove]

i wanna be a melta user so fkin bad

[serene sage]

I respectfully disagree.

[ruby hull]

But I really want those overheads

[inland orchid]

Helbore users VS infantry las users

[viral nacelle]

Ok so 250+ toughness and iron will makes exe stance not entirely suicide

[inland orchid]

[wanton dawn]

[somber grove]

WELL, I feel that sometimes hes right, and maybe sometimes its not right

[ruby hull]

I mean....the only thing you need to say is that one can stab..... argument won

[viral nacelle]

Speaking of exe stance with mg1a btw, obviously if you can’t exe stance successfully with col IAG you’re a bong

[inland orchid]

True I can’t stab anything with the lasgun’s torchc

[serene sage]

I run quad toughness regen for that shit

[inland orchid]

Everything cept a pissy DH

[serene sage]

Out for blood makes ExecStance very comfy

[viral nacelle]

NGL the torch is honestly more useful

I only helbore poke rarely when not mememing, but there’s maps where I have flashlight on constantly

[ruby hull]

Tell that to the boss I just killed in 12 seconds