Plasma works on twins hard mode?
#veteran-class
glad roost
thick wolf
Revolver quick and powerful until you reload
But even then it's faster compared to plasma
glacial yacht
Plasma works on twins hard mode?
it sucks for boss damage but its great if you're on ads duty
thick wolf
Which may as well take forever
glacial yacht
when i did hard mode we had a zealot for the majority of boss damage and I focused on adds
slow spade
you can actually body the bosses with a plasma but your ammo efficiency dies
so I'd only plasma the bosses if no one is close
glad roost
I’d love to complete the hard mode but I get immediately swarmed by either a mauler or a twin and I’m fraked
thick wolf
Bolter seems more in line for Zealot or Ogryn than Veteran
fiery wave
I’d love to complete the hard mode but I get immediately swarmed by either a mau...
Join when the guy that carries the lobby is hosting
slow spade
Bolter seems more in line for Zealot or Ogryn than Veteran
Veteran clearly needs a heavy bolter
glacial yacht
I’d love to complete the hard mode but I get immediately swarmed by either a mau...
i beat it with a team i found on here. just gotta get good teamates
tranquil bronze
Veteran clearly needs a heavy bolter
Or a Hellgun
glad roost
Been trying to find those individuals for ages
junior imp
or a heavy stubber
umbral granite
I wish i had this on my Veteran, but sadly it's stuck on my Psyker.
vernal harbor
what a roll of a rev
slow spade
https://tenor.com/view/shrug-frank-sheldon-christopher-walken-the-outlaws-fine-g...
Russo's average game
tiny summit
Seeing that reddit thread about the plasma gun. Which is it?
"The game should be lore accurate in power!"
"OK so what about its drawbacks?"
"No its ammo and toughness vent is enough."
serene sage
Russo's average game
new game jsut dropped, look at the last person
slow spade
new game jsut dropped, look at the last person
brb updating meme
serene sage
you might need to cut it a little though 
strange sparrow
new game jsut dropped, look at the last person
He’s so based with the plasteel
glad roost
Would love for fatshark to drop 500 level minimum weapons and curios at damnation level. Getting frustrated with garbage gear.
serene sage
or make a compilation idk
strange sparrow
245 plasteel
serene sage
He’s so based with the plasteel
makes sense cause recons users need to find ammo
also im fucking struggling
serene sage
with the trauma staff lmao
slow spade
you might need to cut it a little though <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
don't worry I got you
👍
slow spade
oh fuck
slow spade
updated
serene sage
slow spade
just point at the total damage
the youtuber meta is 2 red arrows UwU
slow spade
He’s trying
my anime girl pfp DEMANDS bullying
serene sage
you fucking weeb
strange sparrow
you fucking weeb
You don’t get a say in this you Pokémon enthusiast
Anyone that take plasteel in my game welcome
No matter how trash you are
slow spade
you fucking weeb
:D
vernal harbor
ill assume it’s positive feedback
umbral granite
I have too much diamantine, and not nearly enough plasteel.
terse shell
we all do
thick wolf
Is this how it feels having plasteel shortage
umbral granite
I'm wishing fatshark would add a way to convert diamantine into plasteel...
thick wolf
Also melk pls rotate my contracts I need your fragging credits
terse shell
im wishing fatshark just copy vermintide 2 crafting and stop gatekeeping the blessings
sterile wadi
How's the uh, brown autogun, it compare to the Coliumbus?
thick wolf
Especially when I see a thing he has in his store that I want, but I lack sufficient credits
slow spade
I have too much diamantine, and not nearly enough plasteel.
don't worry, one day you too will have all the diamonds you'll ever need UwU
thick wolf
Is this why players skip diamantine more than plasteel
vernal harbor
Russo's average game
i see what you’re meaning and I’ll have you know im a horde and melee specialist vet and i do my duty
sterile wadi
How's the uh, brown autogun, it compare to the Coliumbus?
The Agripinaa
thick wolf
Which gun is the best for hordes
sterile wadi
looking at it closer I think its green
sterile wadi
Is this a better autogun (if I upgrade it to gold)
fathom wedge
What builds compliment IAGs? Got a good one
glacial yacht
Is this a better autogun (if I upgrade it to gold)
no the stopping power is really low
sterile wadi
Whats the desired stats for one?
thick wolf
I need to confirm something
Does "aiming" with a braced autogun somehow depletes your stamina
Because Ive seen a video where it does that
glacial yacht
theres a talent that does that. depletes your stam while aiming but gives you more crit chance and stuff
deadshot
glacial yacht
yee
thick wolf
As if aiming with a braced gun doesn't sit right
Not that I hate braced autoguns, I just prefer actually aiming with sights for vet
glacial yacht
the agripinaa braced auto is very very good when you do try them
vernal harbor
Not that I hate braced autoguns, I just prefer actually aiming with sights for v...
blow your mind how often it’s accurate at extreme ranges
thick wolf
I'm hardwired in that big crosshair = can't hit shit
slow spade
sorry I'll turn my monitor back on :c
tranquil bronze
Have i become a meta slave?
serene bough
no idea, as long as you have fun playing with it
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tranquil bronze
no idea, as long as you have fun playing with it
Also, Hadron hasn't been herself lately
serene bough
woah woah woah
zealous wyvern
Have i become a meta slave?
do you look at what other ppl perform well with and then craft your build following their methods, regardless of personal preferences?
serene bough
tac axes
tranquil bronze
TAXES
serene bough
havent seen one of those in months
serene bough
why are you using it and why do you hate yourself
zealous wyvern
i like tactical axes
tranquil bronze
Because I am diversifying
zealous wyvern
just not for damnation
they are very fun when not tryharding
maybe even on base t5
glacial yacht
the mk 2 is excellent yall ridiculous
thick wolf
Combat axe for the less weird attacks
Tactical Axes feel like I'm playing the game at 200 ping
tranquil bronze
Getting a little bored of these two... so I need something to bring back that spice.
thick wolf
shovel
tranquil bronze
I slap auric damnation with this. its my go to
BM good on taxes?
glacial yacht
BM good on taxes?
makes horde clear actually good. without it its not great for horde clear
you can still get by without it and might increase single target with something else like shredder
on the mk 2 tax you spam heavies and push attack combo for horde
hybrid prawn
suspicious melk gift
glacial yacht
god rolled
serene sage
<:susgryn:1042377462295830589>suspicious melk gift
paid actor by FS
trying to convince Melk actually does anything
not falling for it
hybrid prawn
bruh im ogryn main i rarely use vet
long skiff
what drip would go well with the new scion hat
hybrid prawn
and my psyker have more godrolled gun than my vet
terse idol
what drip would go well with the new scion hat
Any of the green guardsmen getups frankly
In the ordo store is something to check up on
long skiff
i'm not super happy with those
terse idol
That is one of the few only options to be fair
terse idol
i'm not super happy with those
Ask in #darktide-driptide
thick wolf
I need more long gloves uniform variant
halcyon zephyr
That's why I posted it here. for posterity.
halcyon zephyr
Look at this, Jin'roh doood
zam gimme that
finite carbon
TF2 chat vibes
halcyon zephyr
vernal harbor
bro just finished a malice game
halcyon zephyr
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1168063453416669284/1194145326639108156...
where get
vernal harbor
fuck ass ogryn lmao
crude ermine
celest vine
I cannot post what was responded by this one guy
But he called him the british word for cigarette in german
muted knot
Especially when I see a thing he has in his store that I want, but I lack suffic...
Only one character?
thick wolf
Y e p
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muted knot
Just another friday
muted knot
Y e p
Ah that explains it
I only ever do my zealot weekly a if I really need the Melk bucks
muted knot
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Chainsword ?
Goes with anything really
I like to bring the good revolver and run it as a melee wep spec build
left zephyr
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left zephyr
I like to bring the good revolver and run it as a melee wep spec build
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muted knot
I don't like it personally
I don't see why I would want to take it over the old one
I guess you can mag dump
But I can do that with the old one and even hit some of my shots while doing it
left zephyr
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umbral scaffold
It brings pretty much nothing of cleave and less accuracy
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thick wolf
It's just that it's braced
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muted knot
Look if you like the idea of throwing your entire drum out and using a speed loader it might be your speed
But loosing the ability to make accurate shots is just not worth it imo
midnight totem
I agree
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midnight totem
magdumping a boss in the face though is hilarious
midnight totem
I tested it on a plague ogryn in malice
terse idol
Ahh, malice doesn't mean nuufin
midnight totem
killed it instantly
terse idol
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serene sage
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very based
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midnight totem
very nice
muted knot
What is close range for this gun ?
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midnight totem
I think everything within 15 meters is close range?
ashen stirrup
comms plex, we lost on the last area with 1 auspex left 
I love randoms
midnight totem
or 10
muted knot
Depends on weapon
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muted knot
comms plex, we lost on the last area with 1 auspex left <:Stare:1191970953413013...
I don't see that much wrong with that screen tbh
You did well what else do you want ?
Like I'm not even baiting here
ashen stirrup
more than a 2 man game
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muted knot
The only problem I see here is the ogryns blocked attacks
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glacial yacht
personlly I dont find the shotguns to be very good atm so i wouldnt dump much into them
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muted knot
Honestly anything that isn't shredder or recon las can work atl
*atm
Personally i think the Agripina autogun is a nice style fit
left zephyr
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left zephyr
Personally i think the Agripina autogun is a nice style fit
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muted knot
Oh im talking like visually
glacial yacht
the braced agripinaa is excellent
muted knot
Both are the same guns basically
Just one gets to brace
The other doesn't
I don't know how well it actually works together
But CS is such an Allrounder weapon it will work
muted knot
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All autoguns have a infantry version and a braced version
left zephyr
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unborn perch
Tell me why this game doesn't have account wide inventory for non class specific items.
muted knot
Tell me why this game doesn't have account wide inventory for non class specific...
Playtime
thick rose
ive played a decent bit of both brace and unbrace and I cannot fathom why anyone would use braced
left zephyr
Tell me why this game doesn't have account wide inventory for non class specific...
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thick rose
you can hipfire the iags reliably and then have the option to actually hit something further out
left zephyr
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left zephyr
the braced agripinaa has cleave
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muted knot
the braced agripinaa has cleave
Should be the same with IAG right ?
glacial yacht
it fuckin melts hordes of elites
unborn perch
Ok. So the ogryn point is the only good one but even then...they could share curios
glacial yacht
Should be the same with IAG right ?
not sure. probably not tho
thick rose
dont think so
left zephyr
Ok. So the ogryn point is the only good one but even then...they could share cur...
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unborn perch
If nothing else shared curios is all I really want
left zephyr
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glacial yacht
braced agri will go through ogryn asses
another reason i love it
hybrid token
nope
muted knot
That feels kinda wrong
hybrid token
would be to good tbh
left zephyr
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hybrid token
but yeah its weird
left zephyr
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glacial yacht
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just that its braced lol. cant reach out for huge distances but its suprisingly accurate nonetheless
hybrid token
it shoots slower and has less ammo than the other 2 braced guns
left zephyr
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hybrid token
graia braced has a 75 round mag
glacial yacht
Its A tier
hybrid token
agri 45
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glacial yacht
yeah
hybrid token
it hits the hardest and has the most range of the braced
glacial yacht
the cleave alone makes it stand out
unborn perch
it hits the hardest and has the most range of the braced
and the worst mag size
hybrid token
it will go through things so against dense packs its objectively the best
probably does less single target dps pointblanking
glacial yacht
the mag size matches the rate of fire tho its not like its noticably bad in the ammo department. you can shoot it for a good while before reloading
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unborn perch
it will go through things so against dense packs its objectively the best
fuck the braced agri
Columnus mk2 is the best braced auto
glacial yacht
you're trolling
unborn perch
no it really is
hybrid token
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glacial yacht
if your braced gun doesnt have cleave just use the fuckin coumnus mk 5 at that point
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glacial yacht
it doesnt lol
hybrid token
its got better single target
terse idol
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Its the best weapon in the game
Or well the IAG column
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terse idol
It doesnt even need the boost
glacial yacht
he said the braced columnus is good not the columnus mk5 iag
which is a bad take lol
hybrid token
nah agri is the best braced
unborn perch
mk5 is good too
terse idol
The columnus iag is one of the best guns in the game
unborn perch
it's a matter of bash or ads
terse idol
One of the trifecta
glacial yacht
you only need 2 autoguns. the columnus mk 5 iag and the agripinaa mk8 braced
unborn perch
I just hate the braced agri, fuck that thing.
terse idol
glacial yacht
its ok to be wrong i gues
hybrid token
i think braced agri is top 3 vet guns
glacial yacht
agreed
unborn perch
no way lol
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unborn perch
Top three are the mg4 lasgun, Vraks mk7, and the three round burst agri
hybrid token
unborn perch
my top three any way lol
glacial yacht
youre special
hybrid token
were not talking about personal
terse idol
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NOT FOCUSING ON META?!
hybrid token
were talking about objectively broken
terse idol
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terse idol
But regardless at least some of this meta talk is talking about how to fix the balance
unborn perch
las pistol is nutty too
terse idol
Cause some guns are toooooo wacky
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terse idol
And other guns and weapons exist in the Era of
broken
but you need to know how to build them
elder dawn
helbore feels kinda shit
terse idol
Its alright
elder dawn
revolver has ruined every other gun for me
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terse idol
Its a fantastic melee weapon
elder dawn
yeah i have a sick mk2
unborn perch
Helbore mk3 is an awesome gun in the right hands
thick wolf
Cause some guns are toooooo wacky
revolver
thick wolf
Helbore Mk II is the only Helbore I'll willingly use
glacial yacht
revolver has ruined every other gun for me
i second that
left zephyr
Helbore mk3 is an awesome gun in the right hands
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terse idol
Helbore's are the best melee weapons mk3 is ranked lower because it's maybe a bit clunkier
unborn perch
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literally can chain killl bosses
terse idol
And the melee is worse in the family
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elder dawn
thick wolf
Mk3 is so fragging SLOW
elder dawn
unfortunately my revolver makes everything else feel like shit
thick wolf
I might be done with my laundry before the Mk 3 finishes changing
unborn perch
it's all about those charged shots, ya dig
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glacial yacht
unfortunately my revolver makes everything else feel like shit
shes beautiful
terse idol
Charging shots on helbore?
terse idol
Not optimal 
elder dawn
Not optimal <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
whats the optimal way, just spam?
tranquil bronze
People still seem not to get the fact that grimoires are not worth it
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elder dawn
not having to worry about ammo at all is nice on the helbore at least tbh
unborn perch
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on veteran, yes
elder dawn
but i like the vraks mk7 better
unborn perch
It's insane on zealot though
unborn perch
but i like the vraks mk7 better
vraks mk7 is like...the best
elder dawn
it really is
unborn perch
for marksman builds obviously
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unborn perch
yeah
elder dawn
terse idol
whats the optimal way, just spam?
I mean I'm not memeing the best way to use the helbore is in melee
muted knot
It's insane on zealot though
Elaborate please
elder dawn
I mean I'm not memeing the best way to use the helbore is in melee
this is hilarious
terse idol
Iirc it takes some melee blessings from your melee
limber egret
terse idol
Maybe brutal momentum?
But its crazy
Limb splinter did work but uh
It made it too crazy
But slap BM on your melee and stab
unborn perch
Elaborate please
you can downgrade armor with zealot so its more viable on zealot than veteran where it would struggle with carapace. The shredder auto.
thick wolf
People still seem not to get the fact that grimoires are not worth it
Grimoires be like: why is my corruption eating up my health
elder dawn
the real question is headhunter or surgical on vraks
unborn perch
the real question is headhunter or surgical on vraks
HH + DA
hollow ibex
get some melee weapons
unborn perch
if you dont have a mg4 lasgun...you want one
terse idol
Farm a good rashad
elder dawn
get some melee weapons <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
does this count
unborn perch
no
unborn perch
Bro it is good
grim karma
hollow ibex
Urgh just watched a weapon tier list for vet
is it from patch 13
terse idol
This video is from 10 days ago
unborn perch
It objectively is good. It's just so good that you want to shoot everything with it. Which you can't do if you want to have any ammo left and you have to have trigger finger discipline
hollow ibex
ok, then name and shame
hybrid prawn
is it clay?
terse idol
Tanner, but I don't wanna call em out
terse idol
It objectively is good. It's just so good that you want to shoot everything with...
Objectively good...
From what numbers
unborn perch
I mean...if you have a god roll
terse idol
Even with a god roll
It just ain't holding up
I mean okay I'll be fair
With a god roll its a gun
unborn perch
I have one that does well in damnation idk what to tell you
but I don't fuck with scoreboard so
terse idol
That's okay
tranquil bronze
So for Tac Axe, is it still flakniac for perks?
cunning holly
VId the only Accatran that is good. If you aim heads like crazy and crit with it. Every other is just subpar
unborn perch
VId the only Accatran that is good. If you aim heads like crazy and crit with it...
agreed
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hybrid prawn
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because pinning fire got nerfed
autopistol got dumped into the bin now
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wanton dawn
Simple: shredder right now is a worse autogun
hybrid prawn
new one is columnus
unborn perch
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I would run it with weapon specialist if you were gona use it on vet. Kind of a no brainer
wanton dawn
It has less damage and less precision than an autogun without being much more agile
unborn perch
focus target it is then
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glacial yacht
Hmm what no
it says that but in practice it seems it gives the bonus for a bit longer than that. and certainly the rof bonus last the full duration
unborn perch
I don't live here
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unborn perch
so some shit I don't know but I have 2k hours in game
wanton dawn
Well, saying recon is good here is a courageous take
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wanton dawn
Me too. I know how they do it: they dont
cunning holly
Well, saying recon is good here is a courageous take
Considering most of people here run solos and have no idea about party roles distribution it is no wonder
wanton dawn
Meh, i dont see how it affect role distrib really
cunning holly
Meh, i dont see how it affect role distrib really
Exactly.
wanton dawn
Columnus is straight up better recon in all category
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cunning holly
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Vraks is godlike tier. Aside from bolter and revolver.
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vernal harbor
redeemed
frail bolt
what's the best lasgun? or is the mk4 the bread and butter?
terse idol
it says that but in practice it seems it gives the bonus for a bit longer than t...
But then
wanton dawn
Exactly.
That sounds like a gotcha but even talking about role distrib is a courageous take
unborn perch
12 has good damage but everything else about it is ass
thorn yoke
what's the best lasgun? or is the mk4 the bread and butter?
Kantrael Mk 12 hits break points best, Mk 1 is probably the better all rounder. But Helbores are the best lasguns.
thick wolf
12 is too slow
terse idol
The mk12 is power crept by the Ia
thick wolf
Ill be done drinking before that thing even gets emptied
left zephyr
Vraks is godlike tier. Aside from bolter and revolver.
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terse idol
I use the 12, but the Ia is better
vernal harbor
12 only sucks if you miss 
terse idol
In every way
cunning holly
That sounds like a gotcha but even talking about role distrib is a courageous ta...
If people live on one game, that might be so for them. I come from multiple, cause DT is the one FPS (TPS thnaks to mods ) that is for fun
unborn perch
If you asked me I'd say the Ia and Mg4 lasguns are the best ones
vernal harbor
i vet with a 12 whos a good shot can dominate
(that isnt me i use the autoguns now)
frail bolt
i'll try to play around to see which fits. so far im digging the mk 4
terse idol
I love my mkxii
thick wolf
Ia with the +25% extra ammo talent
vernal harbor
simple as
unborn perch
I used to love the lasguns and then I found the vraks mkvii
thick wolf
Yes, have all the ammo pickups I don't need em as much as you do
frail bolt
this any good?
terse idol
Is the mk4 the fastest firing infantry lasgun?
toxic cedar
does anyone have a good build for the hipfire revolver I can use? 
🙏
thick wolf
Stability is ow
frail bolt
Is the mk4 the fastest firing infantry lasgun?
aside from the 6d
terse idol
this any good?
Imo, no
You need deadly accurate, head hunter and flak
terse idol
Flak, maybe maniac
frail bolt
kk
toxic cedar
https://tenor.com/view/turlough-vislor-turlough-doctor-who-fifth-doctor-dr-who-g...
i swear I’m a recon lasgun main
wanton dawn
If people live on one game, that might be so for them. I come from multiple, cau...
I mean, fps being associated with pvp, so still a wild take
vernal harbor
i swear I’m a recon lasgun main
alright just kill him right now on my authority
recon lasgun in this patch
madness
toxic cedar
alright just kill him right now on my authority
noo
it’s fun
the recon lasgun just feels nice
vernal harbor
so is my knife but they dont like it when i post it
toxic cedar
thick wolf
Ironically the only Lasgun with no recoil
wanton dawn
Again, if you wanna gotcha you are going to need to go down in the mud pit
terse shell
recon lasgun is satisfying but it's just a shitty braced autogun
thick wolf
Whereas every other Lasgun has recoil
toxic cedar
is it really that bad
cunning holly
recon lasgun in this patch
Fracking crit nerf
terse shell
yeah at least braced autogun can pierce 2 target so it's ok for horde
toxic cedar
I’ve been using it w DumDum and Infernus
halcyon zephyr
yeah at least braced autogun can pierce 2 target so it's ok for horde
and teammates
thick wolf
Because FS has gone on record to say that lasguns with no recoil felt awful to use
toxic cedar
ok what’s the best gun for vet rn then 
thick wolf
Meanwhile recon Lasgun
wanton dawn
Well, recon feel awful to use indeed
terse idol
ok what’s the best gun for vet rn then <a:diesofCringe:816683833662636092>
Pgun, columnus revolver
The trinity
terse shell
ok what’s the best gun for vet rn then <a:diesofCringe:816683833662636092>
plasma? 
unborn perch
ok what’s the best gun for vet rn then <a:diesofCringe:816683833662636092>
that depends on how you build the talent tree
strange sparrow
Recon isn’t awful to use (recoil-wise) tbh
terse idol
that depends on how you build the talent tree
Disagree
toxic cedar
i jus wanna use the big iron tbh
strange sparrow
It’s just super super bad dps
wanton dawn
Plasma is the easiest good gun to use. You cannot make a bad tree with it
toxic cedar
the funny lil hipfire revolver but I dunno what perks or build to use
strange sparrow
Plasma is the easiest good gun to use. You cannot make a bad tree with it
Weapon specialist with 5Ms speed
terse idol
You can theoretically make any weapon bad by picking just top talents
Even a good one
Fuck up the BP's
Done
strange sparrow
My game with a Ammo hungry Plasma P6 used
terse idol
Columnus is good with or without talents
wanton dawn
Weapon specialist with 5Ms speed
It works
strange sparrow
It works <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
He took 8 small 5 big
And we have 2 Psyker
jovial aurora
MK6 OR THE OTHER POWERSWORD
terse idol
Honestly lots of these.guns are opieopie without talents
strange sparrow
Still no ammo
terse shell
I only ever play bolt and plasma with vet cause I can use every other gun with other classes lmao
strange sparrow
umbral scaffold
Considering most of people here run solos and have no idea about party roles dis...
Role distributions are a very muddy area in this game
jovial aurora
QUICK QUESTION
wanton dawn
He took 8 small 5 big
Litteral skill issue
jovial aurora
MK6 OR OTHER POWER SWORD IF I'M AWFUL
frail bolt
MK6 OR OTHER POWER SWORD IF I'M AWFUL
mk 3 is simple
thick wolf
SAPPER SHOVEL FUN
jovial aurora
mk 3 is simple
Damn i rolled a all above 70 one first roll on the 6 lmao
thick wolf
JOIN THE CULT
jovial aurora
SAPPER SHOVEL FUN
am shovel ogren
unborn perch
I mean...a naked bolter of plasma gun just creams shit but "best" depends on the build
jovial aurora
no thank you sir
frail bolt
Damn i rolled a all above 70 one first roll on the 6 lmao
tbh it depends on ur playstyle
cunning holly
Role distributions are a very muddy area in this game
It is not when you not play with randoms and understand what you are talking about. Though if you are good most times it is not really needed.
strange sparrow
✊ 
jovial aurora
It is not when you not play with randoms and understand what you are talking abo...
i can't consistently win damnation with randoms
strange sparrow
2 Psyker and still not enough ammo
umbral scaffold
MK6 OR OTHER POWER SWORD IF I'M AWFUL
Mk6 doesn't have much of a mystery, it's the mk3 but it has a push attack that you can buff to two-shot crushers
unborn perch
It is not when you not play with randoms and understand what you are talking abo...
That was way the fuck up there dude lol
terse idol
I mean...a naked bolter of plasma gun just creams shit but "best" depends on the...
Well if we're talking naked guns like
Columnus probably wins
umbral scaffold
It is not when you not play with randoms and understand what you are talking abo...
If randoms aren't chaotic enough to make role distribution needed, why is it different without randoms?
toxic cedar
what kinda build can you use with the hip fire revolver 
cunning holly
i can't consistently win damnation with randoms
It just takes time and consistent practice. Just a couple of hours a day, as per usual
unborn perch
no contest against the bolter tbh
terse idol
Hmm
strange sparrow
Columnus Naked Gun suck thou
umbral scaffold
Role distribution is meant to make the game easier and more organized, but if quickplay can be won without role coordination then what's the need for it?
terse idol
I mean the bolter is iffy
strange sparrow
You lose out on Cara/Flak damage
Because Onslaught and Rending is what get you to "God Tier"
muted knot
Vraks is godlike tier. Aside from bolter and revolver.
Bolter in god tier ?
strange sparrow
Else you would be burning a lot of ammo
umbral scaffold
And specially, what roles can we even have that don't step on each other?
strange sparrow
just killing stuff
terse idol
Columnus is still in A tier butt naked
wanton dawn
And specially, what roles can we even have that don't step on each other?
Shooter trash duty ig
unborn perch
Columnus is still in A tier butt naked
not really
terse idol
strange sparrow
Butt Naked Wise, Columnus Shouldn't be A tier due to how much ammo it burnt (Zealot Man here)
cunning holly
https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046
You probably so good you got the karnaks hard mode with absolute randoms and random weapons 
wanton dawn
You probably so good you got the karnaks hard mode with absolute randoms and ran...
I posted video on this channel before so... yes ?
strange sparrow
Nice damage but Without survivalist (Ammo Regen) and Onslaught (brittleness)
wanton dawn
Stop trying to gotcha man
cunning holly
I posted video on this channel before so... yes ?
link me
jovial aurora
It just takes time and consistent practice. Just a couple of hours a day, as per...
im at like 100 hours, im still ass and it feels like im never gonna get a weapon with synergy lol
maybe i just need a break
umbral scaffold
Am I sniffing a "the hardest mission in the game that was specifically designed to push people towards premade groups means the rest of the game needs roles" argument?
jovial aurora
im really confident on grade 4s rn
umbral scaffold
Because it'd be an awful argument, just saying
jovial aurora
and doing decent on fives but stupid shit fucks me over
frail bolt
you know what'd be cool?
unborn perch
If you had a good weapon at only 100 hours in I'd be offended
umbral scaffold
The twins hard mode was designed to be hard and drive people to do premades
jovial aurora
i'd say reg damnation im prolly pulling 50 percent
torpid pier
How is the Mk IV Chaxe for horde clearing, the rev on single target for light attacks makes me worried
strange sparrow
And yet I spent 12 hours to do Random Twins Hard Mode and completed it
frail bolt
The twins hard mode was designed to be hard and drive people to do premades
i still havent beaten the twins lol
umbral scaffold
Auric damnation and even maelstrom is perfectly doable with randoms and their random builds
cunning holly
Am I sniffing a "the hardest mission in the game that was specifically designed ...
Well, if that is how you decide to decipher that.
tranquil bronze
Why do I suspect that Columnus is gonna get recon'd?
strange sparrow
The issue is just people need to learn how to play that mode while too much people just dumb af
umbral scaffold
Though I still don't know what kind of roles are we even envisioning here
muted knot
MK6 OR OTHER POWER SWORD IF I'M AWFUL
I PERSONALLY LIKE MK6 BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING ?
strange sparrow
Currently the game just want you to do as much damage and need as little teammate interaction as possible
muted knot
I only ever play bolt and plasma with vet cause I can use every other gun with o...
Hellbore 
strange sparrow
Can't get downed if I kill all of them first
jovial aurora
I PERSONALLY LIKE MK6 BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING ?
caps lock broken, instructions unclear
jovial aurora
i really like the zarona revolver
for vet
just gotta figure out some melee to back it up
terse idol
Try running uh weapon spec
jovial aurora
what's that
strange sparrow
I PERSONALLY LIKE MK6 BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING ?
FUCK PSWORD
frank basin
Keystone
jovial aurora
oh shit lol
frank basin
Weapon specialist is keystone
strange sparrow
Why do I suspect that Columnus is gonna get recon'd?
Too much people realizing that Veteran Talent tree bandaid all the weakness of Columnus
While Columnus is overperforming in base level compared to other IAG
cunning holly
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046912126746374274/118982455325...
Not taking away from your contribution, but you literally posting a video of a premade stack of 3s that role distribute on that mission lol.
My congratulations on getting a 3stack and doing it. I was not that lucky.
terse idol
I mean even naked tests it' shreds mutants in seconds
strange sparrow
Then again IAG peepee poo poo for other class
Because it's inherent weakness is Cara/Flak
terse idol
Not taking away from your contribution, but you literally posting a video of a p...
What roles?
Theyre all just dps
muted knot
FUCK PSWORD
While the guard does count as a flared base I still wouldn't recommend that
strange sparrow
I mean even naked tests it' shreds mutants in seconds
The thing is, it's really good raw DPS against a lot of stuff
but it suck against armored, which is intended for IAG tree
cunning holly
Theyre all just dps
yeah, all just hitting the bosses too probably
terse idol
And?
strange sparrow
Columnus (High Firerate) = Fastest Onslaught stack and High Raw DPS
terse idol
That's what ya gotta do...
wanton dawn
Not taking away from your contribution, but you literally posting a video of a p...
It was pubs, idk what to tell yah i did say it was a smooth one
strange sparrow
Then it become well, too strong because Vet's Talent Tree
muted knot
You ever just come into a public discord to argue about semantics ? Yeah me neither
terse idol
Looked like 3 gungryns
frank basin
Ogrynheimer
cunning holly
It was pubs, idk what to tell yah i did say it was a smooth one
My pubs would all just rush the bosses and be dead in a minute
wanton dawn
My pubs would all just rush the bosses and be dead in a minute <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
Half the fun of the game is handling weak links
austere jolt
Question for you Veteran marksmen. With the Relentless talent adjoined to Executioner's Stance, you get the ability refreshed any time you kill a marked target. Further down the tree, there's Marksman, which procs on ability usage and increases Weakspot damage for 10s. I'm pretty sure the answer is 'no', but does the refresh with Relentless keep Marksman going as well?]
frank basin
Now imagine box of 4 clustered nuke grenade
strange sparrow
Question for you Veteran marksmen. With the Relentless talent adjoined to Execut...
Yes
Killing any marked target refresh it for 5 seconds, taking Counter-Fire increase that target amount for you
umbral scaffold
Based
wanton dawn
In any case, twins hm is not representative of normal game loop
strange sparrow
But it does not proc any ability modifier below (MarksMan/FTE/CQK)
cunning holly
Half the fun of the game is handling weak links
That is something that I find not so fun in DT. ESO? Yes, cause I built myself that way. DT? I do try, but not I want to do exactly 
strange sparrow
Refreshes Marksman for 5s, yes?
Ability Modifier is not refreshed sadly
austere jolt
Right, that's what I figured. Alas. Thanks.
strange sparrow
Do note that you can re-proc Ability Modifier while in Exec Stance if needed
wanton dawn
That is something that I find not so fun in DT. ESO? Yes, cause I built myself t...
Did i say fun ? I meant "fun".
terse idol
Maybe reduce ability cooldown on special kill to keep resetting it
For the emperor is underwhelming though
frank basin
Tactical awareness?
strange sparrow
In my experiences, you don’t really want to use any ability modifier with exec stances
You just want to keep it going forever
It’s a raw 25% HS damage + 25% ranged damage
Hellbore biggest problem is reload speed and Exec stance
If you can’t finish the last kill, your reload > Exec Stances duration = reload no exec stances
Stupidly annoying
frank basin
So bring back reload on cast execution stance or increase reload speed?
muted knot
Right, that's what I figured. Alas. Thanks.
Such eloquence
terse idol
If you can’t finish the last kill, your reload > Exec Stances duration = reload ...
Gotta take that reload speed on elite kill
Gonna cut it close but
That's the way
terse idol
I know I can get away with no extra reload speed with my mkxii lasgun
frank basin
They don’t gain benefit from that
frank basin
8 second buff?
strange sparrow
Yea better duration is better
strange sparrow
Like any mistake with Exec Stances rn mean adios
For a mere 25% raw + WS damage
That’s not a lot for so much risk you’re carrying
terse idol
Which is hood a whole 50%
wanton dawn
Man, i think i was a bit mad when i posted the youtube link i guess i am often mad on this discord
strange sparrow
Which is hood a whole 50%
That’s not how that work
waxen abyss
https://youtu.be/mYzJfhExYsk?si=pYiu8GLpTpi-V46w
wanton dawn
Old discussion sure are a treat to read
terse idol
25 otherwise
frank basin
strange sparrow
I would say more than that but I’m lazy with math
waxen abyss
strange sparrow
I would say it’s more like 1.25 x Weakness modifier (Finesse) x 1.25
Rather than flat 50%
strange sparrow
This girl is not hot
frank basin
This girl is not hot
Eat her
muted knot
Its 50% with weakpoint
Wouldn't that make it abit overkill for mk12 ? Feels like mk1a would outdo it again
terse idol
Wouldn't that make it abit overkill for mk12 ? Feels like mk1a would outdo it ag...
Uh
It helps?
I wish I knew how to describe it..
muted knot
Can't argue with that
terse idol
jovial aurora
is the weakspot damage on marksman unwritten ranged attacks or just straight up weak spot
terse idol
25% ranged 25% weakspot
strange sparrow
I think a lot of people overestimate how much damage Exec Stance is giving too
terse idol
On range
strange sparrow
Because OverDamage too much
umbral granite
it will not
terse idol
Well I've been playing marksmens focus and exe and it's funny, works for basic damnation
strange sparrow
My hellbore have 300k overdamage on a 400k game
jovial aurora
that's big ghey
strange sparrow
jovial aurora
still should have it anyway for me revolver
terse idol
Exe is not great with revolver
muted knot
My hellbore have 300k overdamage on a 400k game
Classic
terse idol
Because its very annoying to maintain counter fire
jovial aurora
Exe is not great with revolver
im not doing exe
muted knot
Revolver doesn't need the extra damage like ever
jovial aurora
i'm gonna lean on voice
muted knot
Wep spec best
terse idol
Voc opie opie
muted knot
VoC we spec chainsword revolver
jovial aurora
i got confirmed kill for now for better team support
i have grade iv cruician and grade 3 surgical on the revolver
it's stuck with 10 percent weak spot but i got one perk i can manipulate
what do
terse idol
Double crit?
What revolver are you using?
If youre using the agrinapinna swap surgical for handcannon
jovial aurora
zarona
terse idol
If youre using zarona, swap cruss for handcannon
You dont need double crit you need to modify the crit to make it hit haarder
jovial aurora
i'll have to build a new revolver for that gr 4 crucian is my blessing
not not doable tho
jovial aurora
Is this bad?
glacial yacht
Is this bad?
i like double crit blesssings. you one shot most stuff anyways
torpid pier
that cat gif is annoying when it continues
terse idol
I mean, because surgical plays off holding shots
Handcannon is gonna be able to up your damage vs crushers massively
jovial aurora
ill try to find it
terse idol
And running double crit imo would cut into your effectiveness at killing crushers
jovial aurora
all i got is grade iv crucian and grade 3 surgical lol
glacial yacht
it does help for crushers and bosses but double crit is by no means bad
jovial aurora
Kind of a shiny shotgun for it too
glacial yacht
i love the revolver skin in the store but boy the sights ar rough at distance
jovial aurora
lmao wtf
torpid pier
Kind of a shiny shotgun for it too
if u are using windows u can press windows+shift+S on keyboard and crop what u want and then Ctrl+V in discord
halcyon zephyr
i love the revolver skin in the store but boy the sights ar rough at distance
twin peaks
torpid pier
torpid pier
nice
umbral scaffold
I will lick the back of your head
jovial aurora
torpid pier
there we go 😄
jovial aurora
my two only "good" guns for the vet
scattershot seem kinda weird tbh
this is the power sword i rolled on my first roll lmao
strange sparrow
this is the power sword i rolled on my first roll lmao
Don’t take this
You want max finesse
It’s super important
jovial aurora
charge time?
torpid pier
Psword is awesome but when I played it , it struggled a lot with horde clearing
might slap rampage on it and try it again
power cycle + rampage
as an experiment
because the only thing it lacks is wave clearing capability
vernal harbor
Is it just me or is everyone just losing less
torpid pier
especially since I am absolutely not energizing the sword on wave clears
strange sparrow
Cleave target is not important once you play Brutal momentum
torpid pier
Cleave target is not important once you play Brutal momentum
ohhhh
that might be the play
ty
might give that a shot
glacial yacht
especially since I am absolutely not energizing the sword on wave clears
what is wrong with you
torpid pier
what is wrong with you
haha I am too lazy to energize on every 3 hits
especially for hordes
though it turns crushers and maulers into a joke
which is awesome
sterile wadi
Which one of the single shot Autoguns are the best
torpid pier
I love my Vrak 7 but not sure about best
torpid sundial
Catachan IV my beloved for horde clear
glacial yacht
haha I am too lazy to energize on every 3 hits
its the literal best horde clearing weapon in the game... if you energize it lmao it takes .2 seconds
sterile wadi
I'm rocking the Columnus MkV rn but I wanna try one of the bigger guns
torpid pier
its the literal best horde clearing weapon in the game... if you energize it lma...
that is one extra button for me, also .2 every 3 hits gets annoying super fast for me personally
glacial yacht
that is one extra button for me, also .2 every 3 hits gets annoying super fast f...
you should run a different melee
tranquil bronze
Yay or nay?
strange sparrow
Is it just me or is everyone just losing less
I mean
It’s super hard to lose these day
left zephyr
One message removed from a suspended account.
strange sparrow
Y ou need atleast 3 incompetent person not doing 100k damage
torpid pier
you should run a different melee
i mean if u can make it work with brutal momentum then I would be happy to play it
gonna try that as last chance for psword before switching to something different
wanton dawn
Which one of the single shot Autoguns are the best
"Single shot" autogun are pretty mid atm. Vrak 7 i guess ?
tranquil bronze
This should be fun
glacial yacht
This should be fun
hot
sterile wadi
Whats the best kinda stats we want on a Vrak 7?
wanton dawn
AAAH, new derp pics
torpid sundial
It’s super hard to lose these day
I think its a lot of people intentionally leaving and reconnecting to replace themselves with bots when multiple people are being pinned down by nets/dogs
Which ends up saving the run
left zephyr
One message removed from a suspended account.
glacial yacht
I think its a lot of people intentionally leaving and reconnecting to replace th...
that does happen quite a bit in my runs
torpid sundial
I see that happen like every other run in high intensity
tranquil bronze
Should I get it for the Uncanny Strike blessing?
torpid pier
Whats the best kinda stats we want on a Vrak 7?
running mine with surgical + deadly accurate
sterile wadi
This was the highest #'ed one I got from my buying from the feller.
wanton dawn
Whats the best kinda stats we want on a Vrak 7?
Dmg/stopping power as high as possible, mobility above 50, stability and ammo high but dmg more important
torpid pier
44% dmg is kinda not worth investing in
tall torrent
Is there a place I can report clothing clippings
left zephyr
This was the highest #'ed one I got from my buying from the feller.
One message removed from a suspended account.
wanton dawn
Dmg and stopping power are always the top priority on all gun that have both
strange sparrow
All the enemy in Darktide right now is low quality
strange sparrow
They’re super super weak against meta build
What they’re gonna do against Psword and Plasma
9 second smite Psyker
Ogryn unlimited tank
torpid sundial
yeah that too
wanton dawn
Id say both are "okayish"
strange sparrow
Zealot Crit brawler
torpid sundial
anyone with a plasma gun just easily gets top in the scoreboard for everything
strange sparrow
The only option rn is a lot of spawn to introduce a lot of chaos (Auric Mael)
Which is useless against some build
Because they do a lot of CC
torpid sundial
new enemy types when
wanton dawn
Probably left better but mobility below 50% is a bit annoying. Should be fine though
You are probably ressources limited so no need to farm for godroll just yet
torpid sundial
Like VoC alone is a 30 second CC
usually 20 and less after killing some elites since most people take the cd reduction on elite/special kill
strange sparrow
usually 20 and less after killing some elites since most people take the cd redu...
Im aware
wanton dawn
Gotta spice up gameplay
strange sparrow
I play Exec stances to handicap myself
torpid sundial
wanton dawn
I play Exec stances to handicap myself
I dont
strange sparrow
Anyone ready to tell this fellow that it’s a shit gun
torpid sundial
wait... I thought the XIV revolver couldnt ads
strange sparrow
strange sparrow
wait... I thought the XIV revolver couldnt ads
Hipfire ADS
junior imp
Anyone ready to tell this fellow that it’s a shit gun
THATS BECAUSE YOU'RE A SCRUB WHO ONLY PLAYS META
junior imp
as someone who is a front line fighter, it's a beautiful gun and i will fight
and since both perks are 4 and good on top
last axle
my fingers hurt trying to lasgun single fire
junior imp
it means i can throw 2 lv 4 blessings
elfin stump
Frontline fighter or trapper bait
last axle
sorry lasgun autos
wanton dawn
I dont call recon shit. I call it weak. Which is the same but more polite
last axle
i want them
steep pier
im using shovel only now shovel is really good
strange sparrow
I dont call recon shit. I call it weak. Which is the same but more polite <:KEKW...
junior imp
i use a boarding axe for everything my gun isn't as good at
strange sparrow
Show him the Mutants Recon and IAG dps
sharp ember
steep pier
shovel is my favorite on vet
strange sparrow
I use Recon when I am adventurous today in auric mael
waxen abyss
strange sparrow
And my party is play 2 Psyker today
steep pier
i should try recon over pg
wanton dawn
torpid sundial
if there's two staff wielding psykers and I can take all the ammo I love it
spraying recon into a horde is so satisfying
strange sparrow
i should try recon over pg
Look at the clip craimer post
elfin stump
i should try recon over pg
Switching from plasma to recon is like removing front wheels from your sportcar
steep pier
i just popped a congaline of like 12 muties in 2 shots with pg
wanton dawn
On average you lose 50% dps on mutant
It was a 0% columnus vs 100% recon. With 25% maniac
torpid sundial
Switching from plasma to recon is like removing front wheels from your sportcar
you mean every wheel, the frame, the engine and the steering wheel
strange sparrow
It was a 0% columnus vs 100% recon. With 25% maniac <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
steep pier
if i wanna swap off pg what should i use aside from revolver
sharp ember
autopistol
jovial aurora
what in the fuck
elfin stump
HHAG if you're feeling frisky
jovial aurora
voc and lower right tree is sooo fucking strong with confirmed kill
torpid sundial
I'm still trying to find a good autopistol to build
wanton dawn
But yeah, i had some fun recently while comparing recon and columnus dps output
torpid sundial
does it suppress nearby enemies whenever you hit/kill with it?
wanton dawn
Recon is really, really poor
jovial aurora
my old build was so fucking bad
elfin stump
Laspistol is actually great on exec vet
wanton dawn
my old build was so fucking bad
We all go through this step
sharp ember
does it suppress nearby enemies whenever you hit/kill with it?
theoretically yes, according to the collateral stat description, i never got off my ass to check in the psykhanium with debuff indicators
i want to know if it suppresses the current enemy you're knocking down with staggering fire
wanton dawn
Even with mod, testing stuff is a pain in this game
jovial aurora
i just hard carried a team through heresy like it was a grade 3
torpid sundial
interesting weapon
jovial aurora
what the hell
steep pier
heresy isn't bad