veteran-class

[terse idol]

Its just not good

[lime gyro]

He posted blank guns and he didnt even show a proper build

[junior needle]

It's a baseline comparison?

[tall torrent]

With a proper build a columnus5 throws recon out of the window

[terse idol]

All guns tested are blank baseline

[junior needle]

Are you aware that those numbers don't disappear and that the talent tree acts as a multiplier?

[lime gyro]

Were not comparing other guns

[terse idol]

At least in the columnus recon debate

[lime gyro]

It was literally just between the recon variants

[frank basin]

I don’t feel fun playing any veteran guns no machine gun choices for me to play except brauto is boring with blessing.

[shut flax]

Revolver gang

[torn root]

yeah ngl the dps comparisons are legit in chat

[lime gyro]

U guys r all trying to throw in ur 2 cents not even knowing the topic

Loool

[tall torrent]

Between the recon variants, mk2 still has lowest dps no matter how u kit it out

[frank basin]

Yeehaw

[torn root]

not sure why this even continued

[tall torrent]

Onslaught benefits 6d more

7a has just flat out more dmg

[terse idol]

Are we gonna need to test both?

[lime gyro]

i have a 6d with the same blessings as my mk ii

[junior needle]

7a has the highest base dps, but that's because the 6d has shit modifiers

[frank basin]

I do have onslaughts using VIIa and VId

[tall torrent]

The firerate difference on 2 vs 7a is not enough to have 2 beat it in dps

[lime gyro]

7a burns thru too much ammo

same with the 6d

mk II i dont find myself having to go out of my way racing players to ammo drops

[torn root]

this is a debate on dps tho

not on ammo no?

am i missing something?

[lime gyro]

Cant do damage if u got no ammo

[tiny summit]

2nd highest voted veteran build on gamelantern uses recon

[shut flax]

Another aspect of this debate is theory vs practice.

[tall torrent]

7a is horrendous in ammo economy because 7a uses 2 per shot and literally every other lasgun that uses 2 ammo per shot does more dmg

[terse idol]

but my friend in the leaderboard you took 4.7k ammo

[lime gyro]

Because most of it was offered to me cuz nobody on the team needed it

[shut flax]

It's a fun gun

[terse idol]

to do 60k more dps than your friend

[lime gyro]

Im not gonna say no if its offered and not being used by any one

[tiny summit]

It is and I won't stand for people that deny it

[lime gyro]

60k more dps w 2x the amount of kills

[tall torrent]

That’s just a habit thing
For me if I get offered ammo but I’m completely good, I just skip it entirely

[terse idol]

That's really bad...

[junior needle]

You were

[torn root]

imma be honest

[junior needle]

Shooting into melee chaffe

the whole game

[torn root]

even if you were being offered the ammo

[shut flax]

Resource. Efficiency.

[torn root]

it doesnt matter

[frank basin]

I always ping ammo some people ignore it

[tall torrent]

Then again I don’t use guns with the potential to burn 30~40% reserve ammo in one horde

[junior needle]

This doesn't prove your gun is good

[torn root]

in the post it look slike you forced yourself to use your gun

the gun had you lacking ngl

[junior needle]

This proves you were being wasteful in a manner that inflates your ranged stats

[lime gyro]

U tried saying the mk ii is the worst out of the other recons

[junior needle]

It is

[lime gyro]

Im telling u its not

[torn root]

no no one tried

[shut flax]

Then do another run and give us the delta.

[torn root]

they said it WAS [in terms of dps]

[lime gyro]

Ok bro come back to me after 300 hrs of playing w each

[torn root]

then gave proof

[terse idol]

It's not 2x the amount of kills, it's total ranged kills, without melee 🥹

[shut flax]

Give us something to compare it to.

[torn root]

literally

[shut flax]

Abstract claims require abstract evidence. Give us another example.

[junior needle]

Your subjective perception doesn't mean much, it objectively has inferior dps

[lime gyro]

What proof i offered 15x we can go on a call i can stream u in meat grinder right now

And show u

But no lets just go for 3 vids with no build shown

[junior needle]

Take a video with obs instead

[shut flax]

Meat grinder is theory. The topic here is practice.

[lime gyro]

I dont have obs on my pc

[junior needle]

Are you aware that base performance impacts built performance?

Go download it, it's free.

[torn root]

like I can argue anything here and get my feelings hurt but when the evidence is layed out before you, you gotta eat it up baby

idk

[lime gyro]

Ok i can stream an auric damnation run since grinder is just thheory

[terse idol]

I mean the theory is that, if the faster firing Recon beats the slower firing recon in a baseline test

It'll lose every time on a build

[torn root]

no grinder isnt just in theory

[terse idol]

Because that means the faster firing recon is gonna benefit from the talents

[lime gyro]

I offered everyone here lets run an auric damnation if thats the case u will see how it does

[tall torrent]

What’s ur build

[torn root]

its in actuality

thats like saying if someone goes to a gun range they dont know how far the gun can shoot or what it can penetrate

what its it applications are for

and etc.

[shut flax]

Grinder is optimal*

You're missing buffs that would be present in actual gameplay, but you're shooting static targets.

[lime gyro]

Go tell that to him

Cuz thats what my response was to

[terse idol]

Both is reasonable to test

But

[tall torrent]

I’m more curious what his build is that gives mk2 better/equal dps as 6d or 7a

[terse idol]

It just doesn't make sense

[lime gyro]

One sec

[shut flax]

If you can hit 100% headshots in actual gameplay, then you can call it practice.

[tall torrent]

Thx

[terse idol]

That in your logic if a baseline grey recon, loses to its faster firing cousin

Its gonna lose with talents

[torn root]

ngl if he posts @junior needle could do the test again with it

[lime gyro]

I hit alot of headshots so its ok

[torn root]

just to show the numbers still having the same gap

[terse idol]

Its not gonna get more damage with talents that overshoot the slower firing one

[tall torrent]

Exactly all this theory talk irrelevant, let’s see what the actual numbers with the builds look like

[terse idol]

The math doesn't work out

[tall torrent]

Maybe he’s cooking up smth that actually works

U never know

[shut flax]

"A lot" isn't good enough quantifiable evidence given what you provided.

[torn root]

^

[lime gyro]

Ok bro feel free to join my stream u dont need to talk im going into strike team 75

[shut flax]

Just do another run and post the scoreboard.

[lime gyro]

I dont have the mod it was a friend that took the pic

I run darktide completely vanilla

If anyone wants to show me how to set it up

I will get it

[tall torrent]

Just take a pic of ur build

[junior needle]

I have a good amount of highrolled 6d's that I can use for comparisons.

[terse idol]

okay okay

[torn root]

i believe it

bro

[lime gyro]

Im loading into mourningstar rn

One sec

[tall torrent]

What perks, blessings, and what talent tree pathing

[torn root]

got the arsenal

[tall torrent]

I’m actually curious

[junior needle]

And testing method.

[lime gyro]

No worries

Let me launch discord on my pc one sec

[torn root]

that one dude that opens the breifcase -- ''watchu want?''

[frank basin]

Two cats meowing what are they taking about?

[lime gyro]

Was using monile

[junior needle]

Yeah just go download obs, I don't want to get into voice chat with randos

[torn root]

oy

dis si vet chat

[shut flax]

Granted, my point isn't discrediting your personal performance, it's discussing the low efficiency of your scoreboard data. A good example of this would be a full crit helbore Mk III. It's fantastic on paper, but its actual usability varies depending on the person.

[lime gyro]

@tall torrent

[junior needle]

The personal performance is shooting into melee chaffe for the entire game and never using melee

[shut flax]

Eh, yeah

[tall torrent]

Thx

[frank basin]

Shout vet

[torn root]

don't you dare

[tall torrent]

Ok @junior needle u can run tests now

[lime gyro]

dont really use highlight ability unless its for ventilation purge

[junior needle]

Ranged attack suppression

[shut flax]

Dang that build is squishy

[frank basin]

TOO ME, WE HAVE FRAGGING TO KILL

[lime gyro]

get good at dodging

[torn root]

no its not

[tall torrent]

It’s not lol

[torn root]

i can vouch for the tree

its pretty similar to mine

[tiny summit]

I mean. It's a recon. For The Emperor and Born Leader kinda all eh

[tall torrent]

He specifically grabbed all toughness nodes on the tree, with iron will and ET

[shut flax]

Eh, fair enough. I do tend to tunnelvision elites sometimes.

[tall torrent]

It’s nowhere squishy

[torn root]

Exhilarating Takedown and Iron Will carries

[lime gyro]

i dismantled my 7a recon apparently with the same blessings and perks

[tall torrent]

ET + IW on a super accurate gun where u can easily pop heads basically makes u invulnerable in ranged combat

[shut flax]

I was thinking about switching to it. I personally run Confirmed kill, but I can see the appeal of both.

[junior needle]

For the emperor is literally 10% melee and ranged damage, vs literally nothing

[strange sparrow]

This look alright actually

[lime gyro]

i use shout incase i get overwhelmed by enemies

so it gives me breathing space

[frank basin]

That’s so me

[shut flax]

VOC is amazing

[tiny summit]

Suppression keeps things from shooting at you. It's 10% for 5s my guy. On a recon

[tall torrent]

Confirmed kill is always good, ET just specifically benefits a ranged focus build

[strange sparrow]

Not the best but it's alright

[frank basin]

I also use shout give breathing room

[tall torrent]

If I had 2 extra points I’d grab ET myself

[lime gyro]

i never claimed it was the best

[torn root]

not even just those 2 , catch a breath in ranged combat

is nasty

[lime gyro]

i was only speaking in terms of trying to say the mk ii is shit compared to the 7a and 6d recon guns

[junior needle]

The recons barely have any suppression, and they need all the damage boosts they can get.

[lime gyro]

when ive ran w all 3 for hundereds of hrs each

[junior needle]

That talent is useless on every single gun

It DOES have the worst dps

[shut flax]

Yeahhhh, I'm inclined to agree there.

[lime gyro]

suppression perks come in clutch when u have like 6 gunners and a bunch of ranged infantry shooting at u

[tiny summit]

Think you're getting too serious on a choice in the tree pathing that is meh for everything

[shut flax]

Gotta play around the few strengths of Recon

[junior needle]

Strengths: Uhhhh not much recoil

[tall torrent]

It’s more like next to zero recoil

[lime gyro]

i dont even need to aim down sights

[shut flax]

Accurate target painting

[strange sparrow]

Recon doesn't do a lot of good things but ironically, I believe this build help against Cara/Flak with Onslaught

[junior needle]

The shots start wandering after 10 shots though

[tiny summit]

It'll bounce when hip firing. At least the 6d

[lime gyro]

hip fire all day

mkii doesnt spread like 6d does

[tall torrent]

I think that’s just sway?

[strange sparrow]

Can I see how it perform against Mauler and Crusher?

[tiny summit]

I know it can kill a crusher with half a mag with onslaught

[shut flax]

I wonder if committing further into Weapons Specialist might round out the build.

[lime gyro]

im in strike team 75 streaming if anyone wants to see

[shut flax]

Just thinking out loud. Haven't seen it done, but I also don't see too many recon users.

[tall torrent]

Rending is useful for recon specifically so idk

[torn root]

im about to throw up

[torn root]

HALF A MAG?!

[strange sparrow]

Rending is super useful on Recon because Inverse Dropoff

[tall torrent]

They don’t have inverse dropoff actually

[torn root]

this wasnt bad i guess

[strange sparrow]

Oh really?

[lime gyro]

i can kill 2-3 crushers w a single mag from my mk II

[junior needle]

Not really. You get more firing speed but that doesn't actually improve your ammo efficiency, and it's harder to grab important bits like rending strikes.

[strange sparrow]

I thought it's a gimmick for all LasGun

[tall torrent]

Infantry and Helbore lasguns (depending on enemy armor type) have higher dmg further away than up close

Recon and laspistols have regular falloff

[shut flax]

Yeahh that's what I was thinking too. If it had better blessings it may work.

[tiny summit]

They just got fucked with their dmg values at long and short range when they got neutered

[junior needle]

6d has severe drop off now btw

[junior needle]

No longer has inverse falloff, 6d was falloff swapped in patch 14

[strange sparrow]

Interesting

[tall torrent]

I think they should just up recon dps and make them actually good at range because if you’re gonna have a no recoil laser gun you might as well make actually useful at range compared to the higher recoil higher dps autoguns

[formal relic]

what blessings does a devil claw want?

[strange sparrow]

So it's just super bad against anything that is Maniac?

[torn root]

man-man really took the 25 toughness over focus target

HELMET!

[tall torrent]

It sucks extra vs maniac because the modifier is like 50% or smth

[lime gyro]

i dont use focus keystone

[strange sparrow]

Yea it's 50% against Maniac, that's why against Mutant, it just fuckin suck

[lime gyro]

id rather the toughness

[frank basin]

literally as machinegunner lmao, i just want my old build like 320 toughness vet but now just 202 toughness total.

[strange sparrow]

Unstandable, because I also don't tag target

[shut flax]

You can build into ET or confirmed kill to kinda circumvent that as well

[lime gyro]

I tag only like

Flamers trappers

Snipers and bombers

[junior needle]

Mauler is here: #veteran-class message

Here's crushers with bodyshots and headshots.

[lime gyro]

Or any special i cant kill atm

[junior needle]

They have poor modifiers to maniac across the board and generally to unyielding, excepting only the 7a.

[torn root]

for me 175 toughness is enough idk

[strange sparrow]

Seem alright because how much Onslaught done for the gun

1.5k DPS, while CIAG is around 2k+ ?

[frank basin]

i still desire more toughness!!!

[lime gyro]

my toughness is at 190

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[tiny summit]

Have about ~170 ever since giving up toughness for charismatic

[strange sparrow]

Waiting for the days that people bring absolutely no survival CIAG build into Auric Mael

[shut flax]

Toughness works if you're in a really bad spot, but the "get good at dodging" argument still applies. Just depends on the user.

[torn root]

lucky i have no barf emote

[torn root]

well not even that

[tiny summit]

You will get my 3 toughness off a poxwalker headshot as max distance!!

[strange sparrow]

This is weird but it depend on your playstyle

I wouldn't say it's terrible

but unique

[torn root]

you have TDR and Bonus Toughness which is broken

[wanton dawn]

I mean, if you're gonna do that you might as well get an OS with plasma

[frank basin]

yeah, it is. my playstyle is personal prefences

[tall torrent]

TBH 150~160 is enough most of the time

[torn root]

yup

because Bonus toughness exists

[strange sparrow]

Plasma brainrot too hard

[junior needle]

While rending significantly helps their poor baseline modifiers, they still underperform substantially due to base performance. Here's a comparison I took with exactly the same build awhile back. Their ammo efficiency is also quite lacking even if dps isn't AS poor.

[torn root]

i was considering removing my toughness curio

[shut flax]

If you can hit shots and regen, yeah. Plus VOC spoiled every veteran.

[wanton dawn]

Indeed

[strange sparrow]

Yea sound about right

[lime gyro]

Rending and brittleness is a must for recon builds cuz fatshark nerfed the shit out of them

[strange sparrow]

More like Recon have inherent terrible modifier against enemy

[shut flax]

Do crits apply 2 stacks of brittleness from Onslaught?

[junior needle]

They were already bad before getting gutted, just being held up by the new talent tree.

[torn root]

why use gun when you can use sword?

[junior needle]

Not as far as I'm aware.

[tall torrent]

Even without VoC +50 overshield, a lot of the times 150-160 is enough for dealing with shooters and gunners

[shut flax]

Lame

[strange sparrow]

Nope

[lime gyro]

The 6d was better off before the nerf

It took the hardest baseline nerf

[strange sparrow]

Except your weapon shoot twice, I don't think it apply extra onslaught

[lime gyro]

Compared to 7a and mk 2

[torn root]

Catch A Breath OP

[tall torrent]

It’s only when you’re caught out in the open with no cover and a bunch of regular shooters peppering u from all directions that u start to run into problems

[torn root]

low key

[tiny summit]

People don't appreciate catch a breath enough

[tall torrent]

That’s when ET actually outcompetes CK

[torn root]

ITS BROKEN WITH IRON WILL

[strange sparrow]

It got mixed with the VoC Package

[torn root]

it took me too long to realize

[strange sparrow]

Me advocating the fact that IronWill is dumb af with VoC

[tall torrent]

You take CaB to regen toughness in ranged combat

I take CaB so I can self-regen toughness while running off to collect plasteel

We’re not the same

[tiny summit]

Which is why Charismatic and Born Leader is good! Catch A Breath replenish for team

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[torn root]

you saying i dont grab plasteel?!

[shut flax]

If you have a point for charismatic, it's def a good point

[torn root]

not my fault i dont have invis and speed 😦

[strange sparrow]

me on my way to choke myself with 3 toughness at a time

[tiny summit]

Toughness Gen Veteran real!

[tall torrent]

Literally only reason I take CaB is because I can regen toughness without coherency with it

So nice

[strange sparrow]

I only play Veteran because I hate my team

[formal relic]

Executioner's Stance with Confirmed Kill, Iron Will, and Toughness Curios is where it's at

[strange sparrow]

Support Veteran 🤮

[torn root]

1.5 toughness a second?

lmao

[formal relic]

max stacks of confirmed kill has so much incoming toughness you can just face tank melee enemies

[torn root]

might as well spit on me

im never gunna notice that

[tiny summit]

Helbore does the job shooting everything

[wanton dawn]

Man, testing recon vs columnus back to back is dishearting

[shut flax]

CK is fantastic when the moment calls for it.

[junior needle]

It's not. Most noticeable when hipfiring and being suppressed.

[strange sparrow]

There is nothing dishearting about it, because we all know that CIAG gonna get gutted like Recon

[fast cargo]

Thoughts on Deadly Accurate + Headhunter on an Infantry Las?

[tiny summit]

You can send me my tips on the toughness I replenished

[strange sparrow]

Pour one out for the homies before FS'ed

[shut flax]

I wanna try to fit ET and CK in the same build and laugh

[tall torrent]

I mean the sights moving slightly when u ads and shoot

[wanton dawn]

I don't care I still have the agri brauto

[torn root]

makes you question why you touched a gold recon right?

[lime gyro]

if the 6d didnt burn thru ammo so quickly i wouldve still been using it

[tiny summit]

Bread and Butter

[wanton dawn]

I have no love for lasgun anyway

[junior needle]

It has minor sway, but that's not what I mean about the shots going wide.

[lime gyro]

Cuz the no ammo consume for crits w las weapons got nerfed for 6d too

[tiny summit]

Do it. I do

[fast cargo]

Was torn between that and Infernus

[strange sparrow]

I had love for Lasgun if it ain't so shit

[tall torrent]

Infernus not good enough

[fast cargo]

Fair enough

[tiny summit]

The second shot will kill before infernus applies

[lime gyro]

When it first came out i remember specifically each crit with the 6d u landed wud consume no ammo now its like some crits it wont consume ammo

[strange sparrow]

Also Burn should do better against Monstrosity

[lime gyro]

but for others it'll still count down

[strange sparrow]

Change my mind

[torn root]

2x it

might be decent then 🙂

[fast cargo]

And if it wouldn't I shouldn't be shooting it with an Infantry las, point

[tall torrent]

The only gun where Infernus is actually not bad rn is laspistol and it’s only because Infernus DoT ticks stack & maintain dum dum

[lime gyro]

By the time i drop a single crusher w the 6d im already done like half my magazine

[torn root]

actually i feel like DoT kinda sucks in this game

[tall torrent]

Infernus’s issue is that it’s available to guns that usually just 1-2 tap enemies anyway

[lime gyro]

When compared to my mk ii i can kill like 2-3 crushers in a single mag

[torn root]

for the lil guys tho

[halcyon zephyr]

Finally the milk man sells something I need.
Except it's on the psyker

[strange sparrow]

It's alright when you have an AOE DoT stuff like Shredder or Purgatus Staff

[fast cargo]

Kinda having trouble with the Lucius III tho, not sure what to put on it

[strange sparrow]

Hellbore Lasgun? Use Onslaught and Surgical

[placid portal]

Esp the case for mk3

[shut flax]

The only way I can do it is if I run Fire Team. Not sure if it's worth dropping Survivalist for in a revolver build. rip.

[tiny summit]

Stand in the open against gunners and not give a shit

[tall torrent]

Like what

[placid portal]

my personal favorite perks for mk 3 is Carapace Maniac

[torn root]

recon 😦

[tiny summit]

Oh. Revolver...

[torn root]

if infernus got 2x'd i feel like it could be nice

like actually

maybe 3x'd

[fast cargo]

ty

[tall torrent]

Recon’s issue is that
Headhunter feeds u crits and is prob the best blessing
And dum dum just buffs u +30% dmg for a really big mag

[strange sparrow]

Ew Global Wallhack

[junior needle]

You did something wrong somewhere.

[placid portal]

*in 8 meter range

[strange sparrow]

Man Truly is a support Veteran

[tall torrent]

Dum dum buffs dmg at all ranges

[tiny summit]

Exe is good and based. Get out

[placid portal]

? they stack at all ranges but only get dmg on close range no?

[lime gyro]

If i do all headshots with my 6d at point blank range yea i can do the same thing too

[junior needle]

Yeah dumdum is "bugged" and uses the code for anoint in blood.

[serene sage]

there are too many cat pfp here

[tall torrent]

They buff dmg at all ranges

[placid portal]

[serene sage]

im so fucking confused

[fast cargo]

TIL that perks earned on one weapon don't count for another. That's 2.5k marks down the drain

[placid portal]

This is some dumb moment

[torn root]

fr

[frank basin]

everyone love cats

[tiny summit]

Got my helbore. Everything dying anyways. The support is leftover points

[junior needle]

Both guns can do that. I'm also waiting for the dps videos.

[strange sparrow]

it's ok to be a support Vet

[lime gyro]

Im in strike team 75 and streaming

[fast cargo]

Support Vet's pretty good, Plas and middle tree special works wonders

Slap on a Chainsword and you're golden

[junior needle]

Download obs and post a recording

[placid portal]

Middle tree just seems to be always a good choice when you got spare points

[strange sparrow]

Still waiting for the day that someone figure this out

[fast cargo]

Lots of good stuff there. Gotta love regenning grenades

[placid portal]

He's Coming

[tiny summit]

I'm not a support Vet! I kill shit!

[placid portal]

But, best support is applying the death status effect

🤔

[strange sparrow]

My reaction to that piece of information

[tiny summit]

Arknights posting

[placid portal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/895133950446567474/1183159366736678943/220085.gif?ex=65875207&is=6574dd07&hm=5fc91213a5f9707e87f11c37624e20c110960a88cdc92139c67bdb1d5fc6f6bf&

[terse idol]

Well sure but then it turns into the difference of fire rate

[formal relic]

As long as you kill fast enough you can even ignore melee enemies
https://streamable.com/uqce75

[terse idol]

The slower recon is gonna kill 2-3 crushers slower

[strange sparrow]

Plasma gameplay gib me brain damage

[terse idol]

Like yes you can kill them, likely not as fast as the fast firing recon

[placid portal]

Point and Click Adventure

[terse idol]

That's difference in dps

[strange sparrow]

thing is, Lasgun is gimmicky right now and take effort to make it alright

which kinda eh

[placid portal]

tru

[tiny summit]

Plasma not blowing up off tap fire was a mistake

[junior needle]

Which lasgun

[strange sparrow]

Anything that isn't Hellbore

[placid portal]

?

[tiny summit]

Infantry lasguns work. Click heads

[placid portal]

Lucius is the definition of being gimmicky innit? It's a Marksmen Rifle in a hoarde shooter

[tiny summit]

About the only thing they don't answer is crushers and monstrosities

[tiny summit]

That slaps!

[placid portal]

*unless MK2

[strange sparrow]

Don't take effort to make it alright, it's an alright gun right off the start

You could also be playing the spear variant

[torn root]

nah fix that comment

its a GUN right off the bat

lmao

[placid portal]

Ah yes, bayonet vets

[wanton dawn]

Cignus was shooting his recon at the poxbuster

[strange sparrow]

Yes....He was...

[placid portal]

Wtf I just realised since I saw the Player ammo stat dropping and two kills pop up

[strange sparrow]

You could also see someone’s toughness and HP take big L

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

Average IQ of my Auric Mael game

[placid portal]

When you see a pox burster 10ms within your reach and you have a Recon

https://tenor.com/view/jogoat-gif-11996953865648686576

[swift ingot]

Poor Jogo

[junior needle]

Yeah I think the proof is pretty solid. Here's an even playing field for all the guns, with talents.

[torn root]

Nerf guns are fun

[strange sparrow]

[junior needle]

As I said, the 2 has the worst dps.

[torn root]

yo

[junior needle]

Technically more synergy with infernus than the 7a but also less than the 6d.

[torn root]

I FOUND A COLUMNUS NERF GUN

[swift ingot]

I’d buy that tbh

[junior needle]

Nerf gun columnus still does pretty good dps

[strange sparrow]

Columnus base stats moment

[torn root]

now THAT is a GUN

[thorn plinth]

what would you reccomend for hard mode karnak twins, in terms of vet builds and weapons?

[junior needle]

shout

[strange sparrow]

Plasma Power Sword and a lot of support ability

and Shout

[junior needle]

You don't need survivalist for twins

[torn root]

Columnus

it shreds the shields

[fast cargo]

Cripes. I don't want to run the autoguns becuase I feel like Lasguns are so much more iconic to the setting, but those base stats are ridiculous

[junior needle]

So you can take something else. CIAG blows through shields yeah.

[torn root]

and take field improv

[strange sparrow]

I found CIAG bad against twins cuz it took like 1 magazine for the void shield?

[junior needle]

The other IAG's are still good but the columnus is clearly overtuned.

[strange sparrow]

Or 2, I don’t remember

[torn root]

put ammo crate down in the middle of the room with field improv, then either you or gory use it to spam nades during the fan section after every crossing

[strange sparrow]

It shred shield but it also burn super quick in terms of ammo

[junior needle]

I found an ogryn with rumbler was perfect for the fan section

[strange sparrow]

To be fair I was shooting at Rinda so it was a .6x

[torn root]

yeah Rinda takes more ammo

[junior needle]

Doesn't rinda take more damage from ranged

[terse idol]

Ah I thought so

[strange sparrow]

oh wait Rodin

[terse idol]

From the...

Well last time I saw

[strange sparrow]

well in general it just suck to shoot void shield

[junior needle]

Yeah rodin takes less damage from range

[terse idol]

You still want to melee both

evidentally

[torn root]

hmm

[junior needle]

Depends on how much your guns dps exceeds that of your melee

If your ranged weapon does 1800 dps to the shields and your melee does 500

[torn root]

i seen zealots 2 shot the shield with the new chain axe

i dunno what he was using tho

[junior needle]

Crit, probably.

Many instances of damage are what you want, because the shields have a cap for a single hit

[frank basin]

@lime gyro

[fading stirrup]

hi i’m usually a zealot main but this made me wanna use vet again

what blessings

i must know

[torn root]

they didnt see the columnus demonstrations

[fading stirrup]

i already have a nice columnus on zealot with momentum and it’s hilariously effective. i just want my vet to go brrrrr with a laser like this

[junior needle]

The gun is much worse in practice than the video implies, the tons of rending make it better against crushers though. Don’t be fooled

[fading stirrup]

i usually just use meme builds on my vet and only play her to farm milkbucks

so fun is the main concern for me with vet

and that looks fun

[wet dove]

where is this from?

[lime gyro]

recon builds r always fun

nothing beats full auto lasgun enjoyment

[torn root]

bro idk if it me but does milk man and milk bucks not mean something to ppl on the internet?

lmao

NYC might have conditioned me

[lime gyro]

I just streamed an auric damnation run w my mk II to @frank basin

[dusk junco]

yo just wanted you al to know I ordered pizza

[fading stirrup]

proud of you sin

[raw birch]

https://i.imgur.com/JIx3kBZ.png what do u guys think?

[dusk junco]

Thank you

[junior needle]

Well as long as you know the guns are quite subpar (both ammo efficiency and dps wise) currently, the blessings are headhunter and infernus (interchangeable with dumdum depending on what you want to do better against). Strongly recommend at least onslaught in talents and preferably both rending talents.

I don’t think the guns are worth spending resources on though.

[fading stirrup]

thanks soldier

and genuinely yeah i just meme on vet i stay my tryharding to zealot

i think it’ll be a fun mix for me to throw in there when i get bored of bayonetting

[junior needle]

Take a look at here for a comparison to another gun with the same setup

#veteran-class message

I recommend using the 6d, it has the highest dps.

[torn root]

join the Church of Columnus

[fading stirrup]

okay okay okay okay

thank you for showing me the light

[fading stirrup]

grateful to have fun with a laser gun for once

[torn root]

is that another believer?!

[fading stirrup]

the hellebores gave me a bad impression

[torn root]

shown the light?!

[junior needle]

The subreddit gives pretty bad advice

[fading stirrup]

reddit kek

[junior needle]

There's also the pewpew mod, which lets you replace visuals and sounds with lasers. Even on autoguns.

[scarlet musk]

is this any good? should I continue upgrading it or is not worth it?

[junior needle]

Great stats, good enough crafting start, but the gun is pretty bad currently and I can't recommend building them compared to alternatives atm.

[fading stirrup]

i sadly cannot use mods but i would have so much fun using this with the revolver i imagine

[slate sleet]

its ok

[scarlet musk]

Oh, welp. I'm currently using a M35 plasmacore and I just wanted to try another weapon

[junior needle]

Oh yeah, that gun is way inferior to the plasma. While they feel good to use, their ammo efficiency/dps is comparatively quite poor.

[lime gyro]

Try to go for high damage, ammo and collateral

Stability and mobility arent important for recon

[junior needle]

You actually don't want collateral as it makes enemies jiggle more when you shoot them

Which makes it harder to headshot

[lime gyro]

never had issue w that with my mk II lol

w 78% collateral

[strange sparrow]

It would only show problem when you play higher difficulty

[lime gyro]

I just streamed an auric damnation run

I only play auric damnation

[junior needle]

I'm not exactly trusting of your subjective experience

[lime gyro]

Idc ab ur trust i offered to stream u a whole run and u refused

[fading stirrup]

oh god

it’s sunday

i just finished getting my milkbucks

and they started again

oh man

[strange sparrow]

I mean I play auric damn with no talent point

[fading stirrup]

i love games that are like a second job

[strange sparrow]

Almost everything work but it’s just hard

[grim mica]

Help with overwatch penance?

[lime gyro]

With no talents it wud b harder yea lol

[junior needle]

Yeah I don't want to sit in a voice chat with random people, especially to watch someone magdump into melee chaffe. You also didn't give me any recordings, and I put out quite a few for you.

[torn root]

breh

[lime gyro]

I told u i dont have obs on my pc i offered to stream u meat grinder and auric damnation run

[strange sparrow]

It’s kinda like that with Recon lasgun, it’s a handicap no less but you could just win by knowing what to do

[lime gyro]

U refused both

B but but i dont want to sit woth randoms

[junior needle]

It's free. Go download it.

[lime gyro]

Yet u type to randoms all day

[terse idol]

but that doesn't matter, because we did the test

Also

[lime gyro]

Make sense bro

[torn root]

xbox gamebar?

[junior needle]

It takes much less time and effort to download obs and record a video.

[terse idol]

Auric damnation doesn't increase enemy health

It just inreases density

[torn root]

geforce experience? experience?

[lime gyro]

Wow i summoned the whole cheer leader squad

Good for me

[terse idol]

My man

[lime gyro]

😂

Sup my bro

[terse idol]

he just did a test for you 🥹

I was already here

We were waiting for you

[torn root]

nah dont feel pressed homie

[terse idol]

To come back

[lime gyro]

He didnt prove anything

[terse idol]

Oh well

???

[strange sparrow]

I mean, it’s alright

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

[lime gyro]

I offered to show u literal gameplay proof

[strange sparrow]

[terse idol]

He was using your exact talents

[lime gyro]

None of u accepted

[terse idol]

Gameplay doesn't matter

[lime gyro]

The offer still stands

[terse idol]

The numbers are scuffed

I don't get it

[torn root]

but ppl shouldnt have to show evidence to you THEN watch your shitty gameplay just for you to prove them right

[lime gyro]

Bring ur 6d ill bring my mk II lets run auric damnation

And compare stats

[terse idol]

Like I'm not saying you're not playing bad

[lime gyro]

Idk why u keep dodging

Lol

[terse idol]

I'm just saying the numbers are not there

We have evidence showing that the mkii is the weakest one

[torn root]

no one is dodgin you

[lime gyro]

Bring ur 6d ill bring my mk II lets run auric damnation

[terse idol]

That's it

[torn root]

lmao

[terse idol]

Comparing all of the Recons

[lime gyro]

Bring ur 6d ill bring my mk II lets run auric damnation??? Hello??

[strange sparrow]

I hope I’m not heading to work rn because I would be down to play Auric Mael with columnus

[torn root]

why can't you accept evidence?

[lime gyro]

I just offered to show all of u evidence ur all denying it

Look at the hypocrisy

😂

[junior needle]

Bruh

I literally posted videos

[torn root]

hipocracy how?

[lime gyro]

Thats crazy bruh real 10 iq moment

[junior needle]

of max damage guns

using your setup

[lime gyro]

I literally offered to stream and i still am streaming

[junior needle]

Showing 2 with the worst dps

[lime gyro]

I litrly offered 2 stream and i still am streaming

The offer is still up

[torn root]

and the hipocracy comes in at what point

[junior needle]

I'm not going to sit through 30 minutes of you shooting into chaffe and proving nothing

[torn root]

IMMA NEED THE BREAK DOWN FRFR

[lime gyro]

U dont want to run an auric damnation with me u dont want to watch a stream of me running auric damnation or meat grinder

[terse idol]

Ahhh

Homie

[lime gyro]

But But Muh Randoms

[torn root]

its hard using numbers i get it

[lime gyro]

😂😂

[terse idol]

I mean

WWait

What's the difference

Between you

In the meat grinder

And 69's?

[slate sleet]

whats this about

[terse idol]

Hold on

[terse idol]

Roll it back

[lime gyro]

Bc hes not showing the same build on the other recon variants

[terse idol]

So you're telling me

He did

He literally showed the talents

[lime gyro]

No he didnt

Lol

[terse idol]

On all 3 of the guns?

Did you see the video's?

🥹

[grim mica]

Help with overwatch penance?

[terse idol]

I'm so sad

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

[lime gyro]

He showed a recon 6d and with full talents and perks and didnt show any other variant w the same build

[junior needle]

Bruh

[lime gyro]

And set up

Again

[torn root]

a bot defending recon when empirical evidence was showing that his favorite module had the lowest dps

[junior needle]

I even sent it to you directly

[strange sparrow]

This is quite bruh

[terse idol]

he did though

[tall torrent]

There’re 3 vids, u can watch all 3

[terse idol]

he scrolled

Through each of the talents

[strange sparrow]

It doesn’t matter, Auric Damn is so easy right now I could play it without talent point

[lime gyro]

The blessings and perks are the same on each recon???

[terse idol]

Yes

I mean

you didn't watch the video

[lime gyro]

No theyre not

[strange sparrow]

Anything work as long you have the skill

[terse idol]

Oh my god

[junior needle]

Literally send the message right to the guy

[strange sparrow]

It doesn’t take a smart man to realise the lasgun have poor DPS against meta gun gaming rn

[junior needle]

He doesn't even watch it

Incredible

[terse idol]

He didn't even take blessings or perks

[torn root]

CONVINCED that he didnt watch them

[terse idol]

That's how we know you didn't watch it

[lime gyro]

The one vid he posts w the 6d comparing to the columnus he has headhunter and dumdum on it

[torn root]

@junior needle you hurt im

[terse idol]

You failed the test

[lime gyro]

When he compares it to the other lasguns its all baseline grays

[terse idol]

He posted the 3 recons

All greys

All with the talents

and you said

[junior needle]

All max damage

[torn root]

WHAT?!

[terse idol]

But he didn't post them with the same perks and blessings

[torn root]

oh he trolling

[terse idol]

So you clearly

Didn't watch it

[tall torrent]

If all 3 of them get +25% maniac, that shouldn’t change the dps ranking between them?

[lime gyro]

Bro i literally offered to stream it its ok

[terse idol]

Because if you watched it you would have known they were all baseline with only talents

Bro

[slate sleet]

recon is fine tho

[terse idol]

You are something else

Oh my god

My sides

I can't

[lime gyro]

No u just quite clearly dont know anything

[junior needle]

I am once again posting the message link: #veteran-class message

[torn root]

so i guess you were too focused on getting ppl to watch you shit around for 50 mins instead of watching 12 second clips

obviously

[junior needle]

Go watch it for yourself

[slate sleet]

kinda insane how people cant accept that recons are ok

[lime gyro]

Ok and i have live action evidence in strike team 75

[terse idol]

I mean homie played an auric damnation

[lime gyro]

Seeing as im streaming rn

[terse idol]

I don't care

[lime gyro]

As we speak

[terse idol]

About your strike team

I don't want to watch your stream

Especially

[lime gyro]

Ok u dont care yet ur gonna argue right bro

[terse idol]

When you clearly did not watch

The videos

[lime gyro]

Mental gymnasyics

[torn root]

its not mental gymnastics

[terse idol]

You wouldn't know mental gymanstics if you needed to lift a dumbell my friend

🥹

[junior needle]

You shooting into chaffe in a damnation game is not "evidence"

[lime gyro]

Ur giving a very good display of it rn

[torn root]

brohiem likes to throw around buzz words

lmao

[lime gyro]

U like to cheer lead from the background

Good girl

Ur doing good

[terse idol]

No you didn't read

Or watch the video

I just don't know why you're doing this

I'm trying to be civil

It's crazy

To me

[tall torrent]

He’s not gonna watch the vids, no point trying

[strange sparrow]

This is funny but alright

[terse idol]

You said

Didn't want to watch my meat grinder stream

[junior needle]

trollface.jpg

[lime gyro]

I already watched it

[terse idol]

Soldier posts his evidence from the meatgrinder

[lime gyro]

It doesnt prove anything

[terse idol]

No you didn't

You said they didn't have the same blessings or perks

[lime gyro]

Ur dumping half a mag of ur 6d to kill a single crusher

[terse idol]

They were all grey

[lime gyro]

I can kill 2-3 with a single mag from my mk 2

Looool

😂😂

[torn root]

numbers in your face proves nothing

[terse idol]

He posted a video

Of how...

He killed 2-3 crushers in a mag...

[junior needle]

"These videos showing the 2 has the worst dps in equal circumstances with the same talent setup prove nothing"

[terse idol]

It's the same damage

[torn root]

but you streaming no numbers will prove everything

[terse idol]

The math is there

I don't get this

[lime gyro]

Numbers in my face means nothing but i posted numbers and ur only excuse was

[torn root]

sound like a fanatic

[lime gyro]

"b-but melee chaff!!"

[terse idol]

soldier posted numbers too

What the fuck

It's so frusterating

[junior needle]

I posted videos!

[lime gyro]

Im literally streaming

Lol

[tall torrent]

Just don’t bother

[lime gyro]

I offered multiple times to come and watch

Ur the only one refusing

[terse idol]

whatever

I don't want to watch your steram

[junior needle]

No one wants to sit around watching you shoot into melee chaffe on damnation

[terse idol]

I frankly don't care

Play your recon

I don't care

[lime gyro]

Pizza lasagna came and watched and can attest

[torn root]

waitits not even this tbh

[grand lark]

pizza lasagna

[lime gyro]

Ok u dont care but ur gonna come and argue at the first mention of it

Sounds good mr i dont care

Thank u for specifying it

[torn root]

what would shooting into chaff even prove?

[terse idol]

No but like

You chose to argue

[junior needle]

#veteran-class message

[terse idol]

When we had the tests

And then you're coming out to say

It doesn't matter

[lime gyro]

That was his whole argument as to why my the numbers i posted cant be taken seriously

Lol

[junior needle]

I'm posting it again.

[terse idol]

That your stream is the DEFACTO evidence

It's okay

I'll move on

[junior needle]

Go watch those videos.

[terse idol]

You clearly don't want to learn

[lime gyro]

Over 600 kills and the only response is "u were shooting chaff!!"

[terse idol]

It's fine

[junior needle]

If you can't watch those videos, don't talking to me.

[terse idol]

No skin off my back

[torn root]

bitch if you have 600 kill when only on your gun

[lime gyro]

If u cant come watch a stream don't talking to me soldier

[torn root]

YOU WERE ONLY SHOOTING CHAFF

lmao

[junior needle]

You literally had 4.7k ammo picked up and admitted to barely ever using melee in favor of shooting into melee chaffe.

[torn root]

you have like no melee damage in your post

[lime gyro]

Ok what do u want me to do then not use my gun??

[junior needle]

You use your melee weapon for melee chaffe

You use your gun for shooters and harder targets

It's simple

[lime gyro]

I just streamed an auric damnation run to @queen bison and i didnt pick up ammo no more then 3 times

The whole match

[terse idol]

No I just don't want you to misinterprate data for the sake of the argument

It means nothing

[lime gyro]

I told u 20 times thst one particular match nobodu else was using it or needed it

But yea lets just ignore that 😂

[terse idol]

Yes, it means nothing

[torn root]

nah not ignoring shit

[lime gyro]

Hey smudgles u dont care bro why are u still arguing

?

[terse idol]

Oh my goodness

[lime gyro]

Just block me and be done with it mr i dont care

[grand lark]

This sounds like a really insignificant argument being blown mildly out of proportion

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[lime gyro]

it is hekz

[grand lark]

[strange sparrow]

It is, don’t worry, here’s your popcorn

[torn root]

its a guy defending the shitties model of the shittiest gun

because he got a good number on scoreboard one time

[grand lark]

Who cares

[lime gyro]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

Get gooder bro

[terse idol]

??

What the fuck

[tall torrent]

It’s just 1 guy incapable of watching 3 videos thoroughly and accepting hard numbers and choosing to prioritize his own feelings over them, happens a lot actually

[junior needle]

This has to be on purpose.

Well played, I've been trolled

[lime gyro]

Now are u done crying and u wanna come watch me stream how i wreck shit in auric damnation or are u gonna keep trying to prove ur false point

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[junior needle]

"I wreck shit by shooting into melee chaffe all game with my low dps gun"

[lime gyro]

Yea come and see it

[strange sparrow]

Me watching this chat popping off

[junior needle]

I don't want to, I see people doing it in my games already

[lime gyro]

What a low iq argument melee chaff lkl

What u want me to do bro not use my gun as a veteran

Go melee only

😂😂

[junior needle]

[grand lark]

If homie wants to enjoy a weapon who cares, if homie is objectively arguing that he thinks X weapon is better than Y and dying on that hill then I mean still who cares but at least you have something to argue about

[junior needle]

Oh my god

[strange sparrow]

It is what it is

[grand lark]

Kinda fun yea

[lime gyro]

I use dclaw

[grand lark]

Known to dabble in such behaviors

[junior needle]

He's definitely dying on that hill because he's wrong

[lime gyro]

I can tell u never took ur "tests" out of meat grinder

[torn root]

2+2=4

[lime gyro]

Theres a reason u dont wana join my stream cuz u know u'll get proven wrong

[torn root]

3+1=4

but looks better

[lime gyro]

But its ok

[strange sparrow]

Tbh, I play without talent point on auric mael so it doesn’t matter these day tbh

[torn root]

basically the argument

[grand lark]

Is he just saying that he likes it or are you ttying to objectively argue that X is better than Y

[lime gyro]

Based Nahcies

[junior needle]

Well actually my auric damnation stream come watch me 2+2 doesn't equal 4 just watch

[strange sparrow]

Any weapon work if you have 2 brain cells

[lime gyro]

Yes it will

[torn root]

LMAO

[strange sparrow]

But still doesn’t change Recon have terrible Dps thou

Against mutant especially

[low lava]

Melee only? Sure why not

[junior needle]

Go use recon 2 talentless.

It's fun trust me

[lime gyro]

Buhaahhaa soldier ur very triggered

[torn root]

nah nah you dont get it

[junior needle]

(Don't do this)

[grand lark]

...talentless

[strange sparrow]

No I don’t want to

[lime gyro]

Go take ur 6d into an auric damnation match

[strange sparrow]

I’m not that CBT yet

[torn root]

player skill makes terrible damage look less terrible

[lime gyro]

And ill bring my mk II

[torn root]

apparently

[frank basin]

https://tenor.com/view/papa-g-kid-cosmic-building-clones-stomp-gif-26703523

[lime gyro]

u have the leaderboard mod

[junior needle]

But any weapon work if you have 2 brain cells

[strange sparrow]

Yes with talent point smh

[grand lark]

What point is trying to be made by playing with no talents

[lime gyro]

Skill Issue

[torn root]

mk2 performs bad because of skill not numbers

got it

[strange sparrow]

You shouldn’t be losing game

It’s always winnable

[junior needle]

Get you some sicknasty dps with these talent points

[lime gyro]

No ur just bad with it cuz of skills

I can tell u never took any test outside of meat grinder

Take ur 6d to a auric mealstrom or damnation lol

[torn root]

because there is no reaosn to take a dps test

[grand lark]

The meal

[torn root]

out of the meat grinder

lmao

[lime gyro]

Bros gonna be scrounging for ammo

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

[lime gyro]

In the first 10 mins

[torn root]

the scoreboard doesnt tell you dps of your gun

[lime gyro]

Meanwhile me with my mk 2 😈😈😈💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[strange sparrow]

I hate Maniac and ReconLas

[tranquil bronze]

A good find

[strange sparrow]

It’s alright

[torn root]

minus a few braincells

[sonic marlin]

whats everyones favourite autogun

[junior needle]

Meanwhile bro with 4.7k ammo picked up

[grand lark]

Good but not amazing

See what purple gives you

[strange sparrow]

Columnus right now

[torn root]

havy you heard of the Columnus Church?

[lime gyro]

Buahahaha i think u have literary issues soldier

[grand lark]

Columnus Brauto

[marble yew]

Columnus kicks ass

[strange sparrow]

Shifting to Agripinaa once Columnus get nerfed

[torn root]

we are looking for new members

[grand lark]

For IAG I pref Agri

[lilac jungle]

Which of these do y'all think is better?

[lime gyro]

Because idk how many times i had to tell u i only had tht much cuz nobody in the group was using it or needed it

[low lava]

Graia might get buffed though :V

[strange sparrow]

I already have my backup plan once they nerf C5IAG

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[lime gyro]

I just ran an auric damnation on stream to pizza and i didnt even get more then 3 ammo drops

[strange sparrow]

Maybe but

[junior needle]

Uh huh, sure. I totally believe you.

[lime gyro]

So come join and watch the stream if u dont

Lol

[tall torrent]

Aren’t these the same exact gun

[lime gyro]

Again ur the only one ducking

[junior needle]

I'm not gonna join your goon sesh

[grand lark]

That's the bit I think

[shadow aurora]

Stats

[junior needle]

No matter how unreasonable you are

[lilac jungle]

fuck me

[terse idol]

Yeah

[lime gyro]

Buahahaha corny kid

[strange sparrow]

You just give me a brain trauma

[lime gyro]

No MatEr HoW UnReAsonAbLe U Are

offers to show proof

[shadow aurora]

Oh wait nvm those are the same

[torn root]

I too can run auric with no ammo drops

[lilac jungle]

aoght gives me 1 sec

[lime gyro]

deny deny deny excuse excuse excuse

😂😂😂

Ight lil bro

[tall torrent]

[torn root]

just wont be suffering trying to kill anything

lmao

[terse idol]

Welp

[strange sparrow]

I mean no one want to watch your stream

[terse idol]

That turned out nothing

[strange sparrow]

But it’s alright

[torn root]

guys imma stream in room 40k

lets go!

[junior needle]

Jesus christ

[shadow aurora]

Daily vet chat meltdown

[terse idol]

I thought this was gonna be like oh you just misinterpretaed the data, and that's okay
but uh, wow this turned into something else

[slate sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-hop-on-hop-on-darktide-warhammer-darktide-40k-darktide-gif-27106796

[junior needle]

Actually trolling me

[lime gyro]

It seems u have alot of misinterpretation issues

[gleaming turtle]

Damn you, Melk.

[lime gyro]

Its ight bro

[strange sparrow]

Perfect time for me to tell everyone that Shredder suck and serve no purpose

[gleaming turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

[torn root]

.>

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/reikouwu2-gif-20327386

[terse idol]

Just uh, continue being disengeuous that's about it

[lilac jungle]

Alright, i fucked pu the last one but for real this time. Which do y'all think is better?

[lime gyro]

U continue not caring about it

[terse idol]

Wasted everyones time

[torn root]

@strange sparrow yer a krak addict

[lime gyro]

But coming back and still caring

[terse idol]

And you're not afraid of insulting people so

[lime gyro]

Deal?

[tall torrent]

2nd

[slate sleet]

the autopistol?

its ok

[lime gyro]

What insult did i say that hasnt been said to me on an equal level

[strange sparrow]

The grenade

[lime gyro]

Lol

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-toothless-dragon-lizard-dance-dancing-gif-18147614732076936345

Don’t @ me

[lilac jungle]

I can feat it and swap onslaught

[slate sleet]

shredder nade is worthless yes

[lilac jungle]

*eat it

[lime gyro]

Feel free to screenshot it and let me know or dm it to a mod if thats how u feel