but learning and figuring things out is a crucial part of games in general
#veteran-class
bitter turtle
Most ppl playing dt do not easily win auric maelstrom lol
Again
Just go play a harder game if this one is not for you lol
torn root
there is a huge list of this you should just let the palyer figure out
strange sparrow
why people act like I want the game to be harder instead of the game to represent mechanic better on lower difficulty?
Is it that hard to rebind spacebar to dodge only
and spam that shit lmao
torn root
why people act like I want the game to be harder instead of the game to represen...
I'm not
just saying heuristics should stay as a fundemental part of learning
bitter turtle
I wonder why ๐ค
strange sparrow
Also the fact that the game are super easy as long you learn how to spam dodge
old furnace
I'm scared shitless to try Damnation and I've been playing since launch lol. I dont have perfect weapons, or curios and dont wanna hurt my teammates because of it. Just takes so long to get decent rolls
bitter turtle
Hmm ๐ค
torn root
The game allows you to fail for not knowing and figuring shit out and thats fine, its like solving a riddle with the controls you are given
strange sparrow
like is I-frame not strong?
quick steeple
but learning and figuring things out is a crucial part of games in general
exactly my point ive been conveying #veteran-class message
strange sparrow
Im not even dodging by audio que but spam dodging
strange sparrow
like you could get through the entire game by spamming dodge
because how strong is dodge?
but doesnt get taught well in lower difficulty because M1 is stronger
just stagger entire screen
low oar
Remove dodge from the game ๐
torn root
like is I-frame not strong?
so the game should remove them and let a game that clutters your movement boggle you down and disallow you to move and avoid things in limited space
great argument
odd sparrow
god i hate spawns like these, one of my mains gripes with darktide is specials spawning so close. stuff like that happening during a horde feels so unfair
strange sparrow
Remove dodge from the game ๐
Man doesn't know what is I-frame
bitter turtle
but doesnt get taught well in lower difficulty because M1 is stronger
It does get taught for things like trapper/dog/mutant
low oar
Igloo frame
bitter turtle
It's OK for it to be used occasionally only in malice
torn root
i- frames should stay, there is too much shit happening and a ton of ways to stop you from avoiding shit alreayd
bitter turtle
Ppl do not need to learn how to master dodging constantly in malice
strange sparrow
dodge like that when you get shot by a gunner
I believe you can dodge gunner thou one sec
gunner have a lot of frame delay which you could spam dodge
to avoid 30% of their shot
bitter turtle
You can dodge gunner but you do get clipped at the end
Safer to do the other dodge
odd sparrow
like is I-frame not strong?
honestly its fine because at release we had the reversse problem where dodging dogs, muties and nets where too hard/inconsistent and it made the game a slog since you had to stick together 100% of the time since players werent very self-reliant
torn root
can't dodge immediatley after a stun
strange sparrow
One second, I dont understand the stun part come from
torn root
Say you are cluttered in a haord now, and randomly get stunned by a gunner then a dog jumps at you just dodge right?Because its OP no?
limber karma
absolutely random question I got asked when I was playing darktide so i'm asking in this chat room lol
bitter turtle
Not convenient to atk out of tho
frank ether
this explains so much about your thought process
limber karma
if i get a doc saying content of material is ">99%" polyethylene, does it mean more than 99% polythylene or less than 99% polyethylene
odd sparrow
yep more than 99
strange sparrow
Say you are cluttered in a haord now, and randomly get stunned by a gunner then ...
I'm confused about this, you sure about it exist?
odd sparrow
players can get staggered yes
strange sparrow
Staggered from getting hit by a melee target?
odd sparrow
its way more noticable from melees hits
frank ether
you're playing a game where the meta gun has bullet magnetism and ur expecting high skill ceiling
strange sparrow
that make sense, but that's also mean toughness has gone right
odd sparrow
but shotguns do it as well. Gunners do it but to a very limited degree
strange sparrow
you're playing a game where the meta gun has bullet magnetism and ur expecting h...
I play Hellbore these days because bored
frank ether
don't even get me started on
strange sparrow
I dont remember hellbore have magnetism which I hope so
frank ether
how many guns have
headshot hitbox
the size of ogryns
you can miss by a mile and still hit headshots
hell not just guns
spice wadi
this is definitely not a precision good aim required game yeah
bitter turtle
Like I said
frank ether
so many strikedowns will connect anyways when you do in fact miss
wet pendant
bitter turtle
Just accept the game.for what it is or play something else
wet pendant
i wonder what i did wrong when i installed the mod
bitter turtle
Dt is not sweaty
odd sparrow
headshot hitboxes being big is completely fine tho. shooting guys when they are in a horde is already hard enough
spice wadi
ho ho ho hee hee
serene bough
Dt is not sweaty
i mean it can get sweaty but not for reasons like difficulty in landing headshots
moreso because you're being swarmed by 100 things
crude ermine
ho ho ho hee hee
I'm here all universal time
torn root
I'm confused about this, you sure about it exist?
yes when toughness goes down to gunners there are frames where you can't dodge because of the stagger
spice wadi
I'm here all universal time
r u still in NJ
crude ermine
Yeah just 2 more days
crude ermine
I'll be back Sunday
spice wadi
the french single pizza per day beckons
crude ermine
It calls my name
torn root
yes when toughness goes down to gunners there are frames where you can't dodge b...
normally you can dodge getting hit by bullets but when your toughness breaks from it
strange sparrow
Justifying the game is not sweaty does not invalidate that it need to teach player better on lower difficulty and seriously does not mean the game should have more depth toward it
spice wadi
Fatshark is terrible at teaching game mechanics
strange sparrow
Fatshark is terrible at teaching game mechanics
This
But people just believe otherwise
torn root
Justifying the game is not sweaty does not invalidate that it need to teach play...
It doesn't need either of thise things
it COULD use some
its not neccessary
spice wadi
idk most players I know complain that the tooltips are p mch straight up wrong half the time
bitter turtle
idk most players I know complain that the tooltips are p mch straight up wrong h...
Tool tips wrong is not a problem of game teaching for new players
torn root
Justifying the game is not sweaty does not invalidate that it need to teach play...
People aren't all stupid, saying that they NEED to be taught is a kind of insult
bitter turtle
New players don't give a fuck about what rending is
Tool tip problem is annoying for tryhards more than new players
strange sparrow
People aren't all stupid, saying that they NEED to be taught is a kind of insult
People aren't stupid but it's stupid that I need to go youtube to learn some mechanics here and there
bitter turtle
Cause u can't number crunch whats optimal
strange sparrow
Oh Dodge Slide , Rending, Brittleness, how Orange Toughness work
spice wadi
the youtube will probably also be weird or wrong
frank ether
are you a developer for this game? Do you have shares in fartshart? why do you care if john darktide dies to crusher overhead 20 seconds into his malice mission?
bitter turtle
Which is their stated goal
spice wadi
the tryhards just pull data directly from the lua
torn root
People aren't stupid but it's stupid that I need to go youtube to learn some mec...
YOU DONT NEED TO GO TO YT TO DO SHIT
bitter turtle
Which I dumb
torn root
YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT
bitter turtle
But
torn root
OR LOOK IT UP BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO FIGURE IT OUT
bitter turtle
the tryhards just pull data directly from the lua
I agree it's dumb
bitter turtle
But they literally said on record
strange sparrow
??? Lmao
strange sparrow
there's just so many game that teach you properly throughout the game
bitter turtle
New player won't care what rending vs brittle is
torn root
How the fuck do you think ppl on youtube find out most of the shit in game
they fucking played
strange sparrow
Somehow you must learn online on Darktide
spice wadi
caps lock, cruise control for cool
frank ether
New player won't care what rending vs brittle is
why should they either way
with the game being so easy
bitter turtle
They shouldnt
strange sparrow
with the game being so easy
this tbh
bitter turtle
That us my point
frank ether
it doesn't matter
bitter turtle
New player doesn't care about vague tooltip lol
frank ether
my psyker leveling was outdps'ing lvl30 vet players on malice/heresy by sheer assail spam
mind you I did it AFTER the assail nerfs
what the fuck do I need to know to play lower difficulties? nothing
torn root
most people aren't datamining for information they fucking play and some make videos @strange sparrow saying you need to watch a YT makes no damned sense because the ppl who made those videos had nothing but their intuition
spice wadi
which is also why a bunch of youtube vids are full of nonsense
strange sparrow
but people just dont want to change that because just youtube bro or search it up
torn root
Tbh, This game doesn't teach enough and pretty much is a fact now
it doesnt teach enough yet you know so much how?
raw crag
strange sparrow
unironically there's so much false information meanwhile
strange sparrow
it doesnt teach enough yet you know so much how?
Because I come from VT2? and I talk a lot online ? use breakpoint calculator?
watch couple guides from YT?
raw crag
how're the devil's claw swords on vet?
torn root
Because I come from VT2? and I talk a lot online ? use breakpoint calculator?
where does all the information come from?
strange sparrow
that's how bad the game is in teachin
spice wadi
they are much improved
bitter turtle
Whether or not the game teaches enough or not, I am not in agreement that low difficulties need to be harder as a solution lol
strange sparrow
Just watching clips
spice wadi
breakpoint calculator is ripped from the lua
bitter turtle
New player already struggle
strange sparrow
???
spice wadi
this guy is so fkn weird
torn root
no you're being a dmaned bot
strange sparrow
Stating the game doesn't teach a lot
torn root
you said watching clips
strange sparrow
can't accept the fact
midnight totem
What are we arguing about today
strange sparrow
What are we arguing about today
Game doesn't teach a lot on lower difficulty
low oar
None of the fatshark games teach shit
strange sparrow
you need to use third party resources to learn to git gud
bitter turtle
What are we arguing about today
If low difficulties need to be harder lol
torn root
you need to use third party resources to learn to git gud
yet people learn information somehow
they teach you just not directly
serene bough
you need to use third party resources to learn to git gud
Honestly, it sounds like you just need more handholding than other players to learn mechanics
vivid bolt
what is this even
bitter turtle
since when
Since the beginning of this conversation u late joiner lol
midnight totem
Why do they need to be harder?
torn root
dont need to teach everything direct
crude ermine
What are we arguing about today
Something about mechanics being taught but that's it I think that's how it started
strange sparrow
Lower Difficulty should bridge the gap between 3 and 4 either by making 2 -> 3 3 (new) and 4
bitter turtle
The whole crux of his argument is that the game is bad at teaching therefore buff lower enemy stats
strange sparrow
but people just think it's make the game harder
torn root
been saying this for an hour now
strange sparrow
lmao
torn root
he wants more ppl hand-held because they are stupid
serene bough
Cant deny stats and mechanics are somewhat hidden, but the mechanics are not so deep that you cannot learn them by just playing
strange sparrow
Honestly, it sounds like you just need more handholding than other players to le...
yea sure, still doesn't defeat the fact that you need to learn the game outside of the game
which is dumb
low oar
Lower Difficulty should bridge the gap between 3 and 4 either by making 2 -> 3 3...
Literally also an issue in VT2 and champ
bitter turtle
but people just think it's make the game harder
U literally just said make uprising into malice so yes
spice wadi
not too much a fan of buffing hp cos we just end up in the powercreep race
bitter turtle
U are saying make the low difficulty harder lol
spice wadi
the problem with sound atm is cos the spawn rates got so jacked
torn root
yea sure, still doesn't defeat the fact that you need to learn the game outside ...
you dont need to learn it outside of itself
bitter turtle
Idk how that's not literally what u said
serene bough
yea sure, still doesn't defeat the fact that you need to learn the game outside ...
What game doesn't do this
strange sparrow
Literally also an issue in VT2 and champ
unironically yes but at one point, the youtube scene of VT2 has become stable and have lot of quality content
torn root
if other people arent and they are the ones making the videos it literally proves opposite of what you are claiming
midnight totem
You can learn mechs on lower difficulties
bitter turtle
I agree the game may not be excellent at teaching
spice wadi
idk about the youtube content
serene bough
Youre obviously going to learn more about a game if you search up and research about it
vivid bolt
watching this occur
bitter turtle
I don't agree buffing enemy at low difficulty is the answer
spice wadi
get out leux u dont play vet no more
vivid bolt
i do smh
torn root
Youre obviously going to learn more about a game if you search up and research a...
from people playing it
midnight totem
All it takes is an inquisitive and alert mind
low oar
unironically yes but at one point, the youtube scene of VT2 has become stable an...
It's also like a 5 year old game
serene bough
some games to mechanic tutorials far better than DT
torn root
but you CAN'T learn by just playing apparently
serene bough
but its not like you cannot learn how to progress in difficulty without googling said mechanics
low oar
but you CAN'T learn by just playing apparently
I learned by plugging a USB with the gameplay directly into me noggin
torn root
let ppl play so they can teach and have other lazy ass ppl learn from them
spice wadi
helo
midnight totem
I learned by plugging a USB with the gameplay directly into me noggin
Fifth class mechanics adept confirmed
strange sparrow
COH2 teach the mechanics quite easily, BL2 and BL3 doesn't have much mechanics but it tell you want to do, BG3 have a great tooltip and guide on teaching people
torn root
what are we malding over today
Apparently you can't learn darktide by just playing but you can learn by watching videos of other people playing the game
strange sparrow
tw series literally just tell you how to play from the start
serene sage
if you are struggling out there
bitter turtle
Have you tried lowering the enemy hp to 0
torn root
bro apparently use a gun and kinife is too simple
you need be told how to use it
at max efficiency
strange sparrow
Apparently people still fail at Malice and heresy level
torn root
because thinking and trying is too damned hard
serene sage
Have you tried lowering the enemy hp to 0
i can't bolter too strong, they go negative ๐
crude ermine
i can't bolter too strong, they go negative ๐
Bro is fighting their ghost's
strange sparrow
I dont know man, there's no problem in learning the game
torn root
i can use wasd to move but HOW should i press them
bitter turtle
i can't bolter too strong, they go negative ๐
Imagine if there was an enemy that needed u to hit the perfect breakpoint or they revive
torn root
teach me FATSHARK
crude ermine
Oh god that'd be something
strange sparrow
Truly, not because how bad difficult scale is rn
serene sage
Imagine if there was an enemy that needed u to hit the perfect breakpoint or the...
we don't neeed another cig5 buff deary
strange sparrow
I watched this vet repeatedly magdump into a crusher
they would learn fr
torn root
I dont know man, there's no problem in learning the game
your argument LITERALLY suggest otherwise
wtf
bitter turtle
Lol
strange sparrow
your argument LITERALLY suggest otherwise
sarcasm?
Lmao
I guess people taking stuff too literally and don't understand the game still don't teach you well
and your sources are third party to git gud
serene sage
these vets are a contentious bunch eh?
serene bough
these vets are a contentious bunch eh?
some would rather die on their hill before accepting other opinions
strange sparrow
Need to conduct gymnastic of youtubing and googling to learn the game
torn root
and your sources are third party to git gud
i can tell you most def couldnt put time and effort into learning
spice wadi
cadia really hurt the guard's mental health
torn root
thats the only rerason you advocate another method
strange sparrow
Game Learning should be within the game itself
midnight totem
After watching him waste all.of his ammo and get downed, I took out the two crushers myself and went to revive
strange sparrow
just that simple
torn root
There are those with the capacity to learn and those who only have the capacity to be fed information
bitter turtle
I think we need to talk about fucking pokemon again to defuse the situation
Things are getting too tense
crude ermine
Uh
spice wadi
fucking pokemon in what context
strange sparrow
Do you know that there's different weapon does different damage against certain enemy
midnight totem
Explaining that he doesn't have a high powered enough weapon to take on a crusher
midnight totem
Need to melee
civic knot
For boltgun, do you want unyielding and maniac or unyielding and carapace?
strange sparrow
Just shoot the guy in the head, I totally see this guy on the youtube (HAND CANNON) into the guy face
spice wadi
I'd go maniac
crude ermine
I'd go maniac
I'm a maniac
serene sage
For boltgun, do you want unyielding and maniac or unyielding and carapace?
i would go maniac and whatever you want
strange sparrow
spice wadi
you dont have the energy to be a maniac
crude ermine
Yes I do
spice wadi
single pizza patricia
torn root
''People basically couldn't learn how to play games before the YouTube era'' -@strange sparrow
serene sage
unarmored is actually okay to hit dreg gunner BP if you are ADSing
torn root
basically what you have said most of this convo
crude ermine
single pizza patricia
that is NOT my name
serene sage
I think elite would do too actually
serene bough
> Do you know that there's different weapon does different damage against certai...
yes
strange sparrow
''People basically couldn't learn how to play games before the YouTube era'' ...
Unironically, People actually doesn't learn much about META gaming prior to Youtube I argue
spice wadi
i remember the days when all we had on the weapon page
was a bunch of yellow lines
and a lore blurb
serene sage
that is NOT my name
it is now, patricia
strange sparrow
That's why a lot of game are way fun back then
vivid bolt
so
bitter turtle
No
vivid bolt
what crack is being smoked currently
spice wadi
KILL leux
torn root
Unironically, People actually doesn't learn much about META gaming prior to Yout...
yes say something so completely obvious
bitter turtle
They were fun because u we re a dumbass kid
serene sage
Unironically, People actually doesn't learn much about META gaming prior to Yout...
YT is usually anything but meta, at least for DT YTsphere
strange sparrow
And they certainly doesn't learn much about the game just by playing
torn root
how do you collect information needed to know whats best without gathering an amalgamation of it?
serene sage
bitter turtle
And now u realize what they really are
strange sparrow
YT is usually anything but meta, at least for DT YTsphere
tbh that's a DT problem rn
vivid bolt
YT is usually anything but meta, at least for DT YTsphere
lmao yea
bitter turtle
Toys for children
strange sparrow
it doesn't teach much, and a lot of bad content here and there
serene bough
what crack is being smoked currently
A discussion on how well the game teaches you, beginning with malice -> heresy being too large of a jump, now transitioned to how certain mechanics are not explained well in the game
vivid bolt
A discussion on how well the game teaches you, beginning with malice -> heresy b...
jesus
torn root
And they certainly doesn't learn much about the game just by playing
yeah no one learned how to get the highscore on pac man
before YT
you right
serene sage
Toys for children
i wish toys for adults are cheaper ๐
vivid bolt
Mittens what is your beef with leux did they blow up your front door
we love each other dearly
serene sage
not in a sexual way
bitter turtle
I was about to say
serene sage
im talking like pure enjoyments for adults
frank ether
brgh
bitter turtle
frank ether
go back to posting cats
strange sparrow
yeah no one learned how to get the highscore on pac man
I would argue that's why we see the rise of speedrun after certain technique get discovered
crude ermine
we love each other dearly
That's his way of showing love then, noted
serene sage
Some are pretty cheap
listen, most people would agree that anything can be shove up places if you are brave enough
civic knot
Help me decide which one of these two I should make into calvacade + shattering impact
torn root
Didn't know I could shoot fireballs in Super Mario until i saw it on Youtube
strange sparrow
because normally one person wouldn't figure out everything himself
spice wadi
Mittens what is your beef with leux did they blow up your front door
u talk about blowing stuff up too much i think u have explosives envy
torn root
you right
spice wadi
cos of ur lack of explosives
crude ermine
u talk about blowing stuff up too much i think u have explosives envy
I DO
spice wadi
(you have none)
crude ermine
I wanna blow shit up
vivid bolt
Help me decide which one of these two I should make into calvacade + shattering ...
the right tbh
strange sparrow
like just think with a brain lmao
spice wadi
no explosives
crude ermine
I ran out last month
strange sparrow
SpeedRun nowadays are the combination of multiple creator technique
serene sage
Help me decide which one of these two I should make into calvacade + shattering ...
you have a perfect bolter on the right, why would make it calvacade and make it worse?
torn root
I would argue that's why we see the rise of speedrun after certain technique get...
thats a niches seperate from elarning the game you bot
vivid bolt
both work but uh its a difference of how you play
strange sparrow
can't learn the game
torn root
speed runners learn how to break the game and abuse bugs to finish games as fast as possible
spice wadi
how many of u must I gag today (platonically)
serene sage
how many of u must I gag today (platonically)
let me buy you dinner
spice wadi
thanks
low lava
Spicy day today, woke up from being hungover to this lol
strange sparrow
Ah yes, now that technique isn't a thing anymore (As if SpeedRunner isn't the most technical people)
civic knot
you have a perfect bolter on the right, why would make it calvacade and make it ...
cause then spamfiring isnt rewarded as well
bitter turtle
im talking like pure enjoyments for adults
Honest to god though, I think adults should find enjoyment in something other than mastering every niche in video games
strange sparrow
yea they just bug the game and Win
bitter turtle
Something more fulfilling
frank ether
bitter turtle
Like art or writing
strange sparrow
tbh everyone could be speed running
torn root
Ah yes, now that technique isn't a thing anymore (As if SpeedRunner isn't the mo...
bad faith argmuent
strange sparrow
okay bro
crude ermine
how many of u must I gag today (platonically)
Least let me file my taxes
spice wadi
Honest to god though, I think adults should find enjoyment in something other th...
this is dangerously close to discourse about society back away slowly or I will shoot
vivid bolt
Honest to god though, I think adults should find enjoyment in something other th...
we do realize hobbies exist... please god.
torn root
Ah yes, now that technique isn't a thing anymore (As if SpeedRunner isn't the mo...
peopel who basically abuse bugs are the most technical
strange sparrow
Totally fr fr
serene sage
Like art or writing
emailing
what are you doing, scamming on your free time as a hobby?
strange sparrow
Not like this speedrun tech doesn't require perfect input from the human side
serene sage
I only play games to stifle my depression
sir, it's too early in the morning for this
bitter turtle
It was autocorrect ๐
torn root
peopel who basically abuse bugs are the most technical
by this logic anyone who develops wall hacks in a shooter is just better then
torn root
anyone who can get under the map to shoot you in a shoots is just better then
serene sage
Like art or writing
i wrote a short story, real short
crude ermine
I read about entemology
bitter turtle
read a fucking book
I read gay books
midnight totem
Understood
crude ermine
I like the critters
serene sage
5/5 people so far think it's good
vivid bolt
I read gay books
is it mostly pictures.
crude ermine
I read gay books
YEAAAAAHHHH
pine oar
so mutch veteran stuff i cant even tak in all the info
frank ether
I read gay books
nice
midnight totem
Going to my Horus Heresy collection
frank ether
very nice
bitter turtle
is it mostly pictures.
Light novels so no
serene sage
I read gay books
gay
crude ermine
Got a book about bees
vivid bolt
Light novels so no
eh either way its valid
crude ermine
No berry b Benson tho so it's a 4/10
strange sparrow
man have issue recognizing that game are difficult to learn but not difficult to master, game do a poor job at teaching, I need to rely on third party resources to learn the game better as if Breakpoint are factor into stats sheets provided in game totally
low lava
Having yaoi knowledge got me laid with a hot cosplayer, can approve of yaoi lol
strange sparrow
and youtube scene are still shit which mean you learn bad information here and there
vivid bolt
Having yaoi knowledge got me laid with a hot cosplayer, can approve of yaoi lol
WHAT
WHERE DID
HUH
low lava
Shes my wife now too lmao
vivid bolt
vet chat ladies n gents
crude ermine
Yuri knowledge got me most of my friends for some odd reason
bitter turtle
YEAAAAAHHHH
Read wataoshi ๐
serene sage
man have issue recognizing that game are difficult to learn but not difficult to...
hey man, we moving on to man on man actions now
crude ermine
While losing others
midnight totem
Okay braggart
torn root
you are the one that has an issue understanding that ---- they are hard to understand and learn, that doesnt mean you NEED to hand-hold and spoon-feed
strange sparrow
hey man, we moving on to man on man actions now
that's kinda gay
bitter turtle
I swear ๐
crude ermine
I'll check it iut
strange sparrow
you are the one that has an issue understanding that ---- they are hard to unde...
ok dude
serene sage
Read wataoshi ๐
should i google this
strange sparrow
heres your thumbsup
torn root
you're just basically spitting in the face of consumers and calling them too stupid
strange sparrow
serene sage
that's kinda gay
im straight so anyone i find attractice is a girl
low lava
Pls, fatshark calls us stupid with the aquila store lmao
Calling your gamerbase stupid is industry standard, just not too obviously
bitter turtle
I play gachage, being stupid is implicit
civic knot
you have a perfect bolter on the right, why would make it calvacade and make it ...
You can pick off gunners and reapers perfectly fine without surgical from what ive heard, so why hinder yourself with slow ADS firing?
serene sage
It and adashima are my favorite books
i expected nothing less
vivid bolt
Turn it back on
nah im leaving soon for the dentist
strange sparrow
My consumer eat shit anyways because they're addicted to my game
- Apex Legend VP
frank ether
oh fuck the space heater is off
run darktide without fps limiter
strange sparrow
crude ermine
Luna 04-24
torn root
as of now the Vet chat answer to everything is ''Consult Youtube'' ngl
crude ermine
Died from cold
vivid bolt
run darktide without fps limiter
ngl its how i heat my dorm
frank ether
ngl its how i heat my dorm
same I got a space heater tier gpu
spice wadi
Died from cold
european serf style
vivid bolt
3090 and an i9 with only two fans is a genuine radiator
serene sage
You can pick off gunners and reapers perfectly fine without surgical from what i...
surgical alone can't hit 1s bp, you need help from talents for that, most notably long shot
unarmored/elite lets you skim a point or two
serene sage
as of now the Vet chat answer to everything is ''Consult Youtube'' ngl
who the fuck said that
torn root
who the fuck said that
you gotta read most of the convo boyo
serene sage
literally no one here tells people to check YT for answer
crude ermine
european serf style
Did you eat
placid portal
I just play game, make build and have fun
vivid bolt
yall
placid portal
vivid bolt
what should i get for lunch
crude ermine
Pizza
vivid bolt
name an american fast food joint
serene sage
what should i get for lunch
what are your options?
placid portal
Bread
barren cave
what should i get for lunch
copium
frank ether
I made weird pasta today
quick steeple
you're just basically spitting in the face of consumers and calling them too stu...
opposite, Fatshark give em too much credit and assumed they could read/ pay attention to the combat tutorial XD
Nahchies is right tho, there is limited explanation in-game clarifying the finer points (stats like finesse vs stopping power | what Brittleness/rend do without reading patchnotes etc.)
serene sage
name an american fast food joint
chipotle qdoba?
frank ether
with fish
crude ermine
Fuck uhh
vivid bolt
chipotle qdoba?
ehhh chipotle be scamming
spice wadi
Did you eat
I have idd eaten food
serene sage
wendy's isn't mexican
vivid bolt
hmmm
crude ermine
Not yet
vivid bolt
wendys is good
torn root
opposite, Fatshark give em too much credit and assumed they could read/ pay atte...
I didnt need anything to now i can shove a dude, or look at what damage i could do
vivid bolt
mcdonalds.
serene sage
ehhh chipotle be scamming
lol what why i love chipotle
frank ether
i make pasta with fish
just used a funny recipe I found on YT involving sardines
quick steeple
ehhh chipotle be scamming
need that hole-in-the-wall cuban joint
vivid bolt
McDonalds is the answer
torn root
opposite, Fatshark give em too much credit and assumed they could read/ pay atte...
intuition exists the game doesnt need to guide that
serene sage
just used a funny recipe I found on YT involving sardines
holy fuck are we the same person?
crude ermine
Serves the best kind of food
vivid bolt
watch me get like
serene sage
does it involve breadcrumps?
frank ether
does it involve breadcrumps?
fdskรถvhjks yes
vivid bolt
2k calories worth of food for 6$
low lava
I think the game designer said in an interview before that he hates minmaxxers so thats why they obscure a lot of the mechanics behind stats lol
frank ether
It was delicious
torn root
opposite, Fatshark give em too much credit and assumed they could read/ pay atte...
if intuition didn't exist we wouldnt have a vet chat of people helping and teaching one another, based of what the community as a collective learned
strange sparrow
I mean it's kinda funny that people dont accept that the game doesn't teach well enough (Proceed to argue that the game doesn't need to teach you), then say that third party sources isn't needed to learn the game better
bitter turtle
I learned without yt videos
strange sparrow
Hell, being in DT chat just mean you already learn a certain aspect to the game to certain extend
strange sparrow
but that mean you need to get in here
torn root
I learned without yt videos
you're lying
strange sparrow
which is kinda a problem
torn root
i did too but i'd be lying too
serene sage
We have some good stuff
pate is one of the best things that comes out of frenchland
torn root
apparently
low lava
Nah, i just joined to find bells because im stupid
civic knot
surgical alone can't hit 1s bp, you need help from talents for that, most notabl...
Cant you 1s BP with +15% elite damage and weakspot damage?
vivid bolt
yall i can get a 20 nugget for 5$
midnight totem
I learned without yt videos. Then i looked for some specific videos and learned more
torn root
I mean it's kinda funny that people dont accept that the game doesn't teach well...
its not needed, its there for those who seek it
but english is hard
its so needed that the ppl that made the videos needed it
right?
serene sage
Cant you 1s BP with +15% elite damage and weakspot damage?
maybe, the only way to know is to test, i think one headshot sure but bodyshot maybe not absolutely not
low lava
I hate watching yt guides though, fucking nerdy ass cheese grater voices every time
strange sparrow
It's there for people who seek it lmao
vivid bolt
960 calories from the nuggets
700 from mcchicken
midnight totem
There are people who completely lack intuition of any kind
low lava
Too bad written guides are the way of the dinosaur now
serene sage
I learnt English through the Internet
serene sage
so I can read memes and play vidya
strange sparrow
Too bad written guides are the way of the dinosaur now
this and game doesn't teach well
vivid bolt
wait
torn root
It's there for people who seek it lmao
You are saying some is needed but there are people who have perforemed with out the NEED for said item then share their nuggets of knowledge for other ppl to use
torn root
how did they figure those things out?
crude ermine
Oh shit fr?
torn root
its a shit argument, really is
bitter turtle
I play fighting games
strange sparrow
People could figure stuff out themselves, but it's pretty shit that say you managed to figure out everything
strange sparrow
it's like the rending argument
serene sage
you used to be able to get a free large $5 coffee with it too
strange sparrow
people could be saying x y z
vivid bolt
6 mchickens
bitter turtle
So I'm used to figuring things out
crude ermine
Damnit I lack fg knowledge to make a shitty joke on that
low lava
Get the mcgangbang
torn root
People could figure stuff out themselves, but it's pretty shit that say you mana...
you dont need to figure everything out, you also took note of that earlier too
quick steeple
figuring out organically is fine, im a proponent of that. but then you need to at least clarify game terminology so you know WHAT you figured out is referring to
crude ermine
FUCK YEAHAHHH
vivid bolt
Get the mcgangbang
ngl... i could.
low lava
Poverty tech
serene sage
I play fighting games
fg seems too big brained for me
torn root
especially saying you dont need to block nachies
hard parcel
I feel like a complete idiot since I genuine had no clue what the hell finesse meant, only to find out itโs this games version of critical damage.
crude ermine
Wait the whay
strange sparrow
figuring out organically is fine, im a proponent of that. but then you need to ...
this
torn root
where is the consistency?
vivid bolt
ok so 6 mchickens
strange sparrow
especially saying you dont need to block nachies
You dont need to block in Malice
serene sage
I feel like a complete idiot since I genuine had no clue what the hell finesse m...
it's also headshot damage
bitter turtle
Poverty tech
The mcgangbang is not poverty tech anymore
strange sparrow
???
bitter turtle
Have you seen
crude ermine
ok so 6 mchickens
Did you get a drink
serene sage
????????????????
bitter turtle
How much that shit costs niw
low lava
Mcdonald aint poverty tech anymore
strange sparrow
The game doesn't teach you to block in Malice dude
serene sage
the what
vivid bolt
Did you get a drink
i drink water
strange sparrow
How hard is it to understand
bitter turtle
McChicken is like nearly 4 dollars
crude ermine
WHA- eh that's fair
serene sage
McD can be poverty tech if you use the mobile app
strange sparrow
it's neat to block but there's no necessity to block in Malice
torn root
You dont need to block in Malice
figured that out from YT or from playing?
strange sparrow
because your M1 light stagger the screen?
serene sage
not easy to get 1k5 calories for $7 elsewhere
crisp bronze
Is this Mk 1 Helbore worth grabbing from Melk?
Here's the Stats:
78% Damage 70% Charge Rate
70% Stability 76% Ammo 79% Stopping Power
Perks and Blessings:
8% Damage (Elites) 20% Damage (Flak)
Onslaught 3 Sustained Fire 2.
serene sage
whatever you say
bitter turtle
You would buy both
vernal harbor
i drink water
fed
vivid bolt
so 6 mchickens is
crude ermine
Ok wait wait wait
strange sparrow
figured that out from YT or from playing?
Playing which is a bad habit
vivid bolt
12$
strange sparrow
because Heresy want you to block
bitter turtle
Then slap the two chickens around the mcdouble
serene sage
Back when McChickens and McDoubles were 1 dollar
no why was it called the mcgangbang
vivid bolt
20$ off is
strange sparrow
and you carry those habits that is BAD to heresy LMAO
crude ermine
There are two convos happening that perfect sums up vet chat
bitter turtle
Because the chickens are fucking the cow
hard parcel
it's also headshot damage
I accepted that I am a straight up dummy but did the game ever tell us that finesse does this.
strange sparrow
vivid bolt
10$
torn root
You dont need to block in Malice
answer that question: Did you need Youtube to figure this out?
crude ermine
One about the thing from earlier and now McDonald's
vivid bolt
10$ for 2k calories
vernal harbor
man what the fuck yโall talking about
vivid bolt
BET
strange sparrow
Im gonna use your spell against you, arguing in bad faith
vivid bolt
MY SINGLE MEAL OF THE DAY IS THAT
strange sparrow
thank you
serene sage
I accepted that I am a straight up dummy but did the game ever tell us that fine...
shit i had no clue until i joined this server
vivid bolt
maybe ill slap a mcdouble in there to make a mcgangbang
crude ermine
is that the actual name
vivid bolt
yes
serene sage
man what the fuck yโall talking about
mcgangbang
bitter turtle
It's the colloquial one
crude ermine
That's funny
low lava
White meat between black meat lol
vivid bolt
That's funny
strange sparrow
Bad Habits = It's good that player learn bad habits that doesn't translate to future difficulty
serene sage
chat is going so fast they won't notice that I support i child labor
torn root
if people had a need for YT the only ppl who could teach how to play DT would be FatShark employees
vivid bolt
chat is going so fast they won't notice that I support i child labor
i see you
crude ermine
Oh I would love that in my stomach
sinful solar
chat is going so fast they won't notice that I support i child labor
based
crude ermine
Fuck now I'm hungry
vivid bolt
Oh I would love that in my stomach
SAME
spice wadi
more fool you i have killed most chat posters
crude ermine
Fuck this I'm ordering too
low lava
Blocked
vivid bolt
more fool you i have killed most chat posters
lmao
strange sparrow
low lava
Dam son who dis
spice wadi
Fuck this I'm ordering too
defy the non-walkable city
bitter turtle
I hate American comfort food tbh
spice wadi
venture out upon the roads
midnight totem
chat is going so fast they won't notice that I support i child labor
Sir this is the Imperium
strange sparrow
Doesn't understand what's the point being drawn here and keep arguing for the sake of argument
midnight totem
It's child labor all the way down
crude ermine
Mittens that'll lead to me complaining about almost being ran over again
spice wadi
yeah
hard parcel
McDonaldโs has become too damn expensive for the quality of food it serves.
serene sage
ranking best cuisines in the world
5. You
4. Can't
3. Rank
2. Cuisines
- Vietnamese
low lava
Da phuc
strange sparrow
ranking best cuisines in the world
5. You
4. Can't
3. Rank
2. Cuisines
1. Vietna...
Bro put Vietnamese last
vivid bolt
its good
spice wadi
it's vietnamese
strange sparrow
I can't
vivid bolt
Vietnamese food is fire
serene sage
wait shit
alpine maple
Wrong
low lava
Pho is pretty good
serene sage
i got the numbering wrong
vivid bolt
Pho is great, banh mi is awesome
crisp bronze
Worth buying this from Melk? Never used the Helbore before.
alpine maple
Phล is rly rly good
low lava
And banh mi is something good that the f_ench invented
frank ether
McDonaldโs has become too damn expensive for the quality of food it serves.
if you're murrican chances are you're typing this from a mcdonalds anyways
crude ermine
Numbers
serene sage
markdown be like
vivid bolt
And banh mi is something good that the f_ench invented
tbh banh mi is just, "sandwich" on a certain bread
strange sparrow
I wouldn't rank them first because they make Huyet
hard parcel
Worth buying this from Melk? Never used the Helbore before.
Yeah thatโs actually pretty good I say grab it
low lava
Gotta be a baguette though
vivid bolt
yea
low lava
Honhonhon
alpine maple
WE ARE THE UBERSREIK FIVE
vivid bolt
hence certain bread
serene sage
banh mi is baguette with pate and soysauce and your choice of protein
low lava
Bread aint native to asia anyways though so
crude ermine
Baguette is cool
hard parcel
if you're murrican chances are you're typing this from a mcdonalds anyways
I am an American and no I am not typing this at one.
crude ermine
No we don't make love to it like some people think
alpine maple
WE ARE THE UBERSREIK FIVE
Wait wrong veteran 
serene sage
perhaps the only good thing coming out of french colonialism
alpine maple
perhaps the only good thing coming out of french colonialism
Real
hard parcel
Am at home eating it thank you very much.
serene sage
i like baguette
strange sparrow
Baguette is cool
19
serene sage
and pate too
vivid bolt
@crude ermine how many inches of hair should i cut. i have like 12-14 inches\
crisp bronze
Yeah thatโs actually pretty good I say grab it
What do I change on it? I assume Sustained Fire->Surgical and Damage (Elites)->Something?
spice wadi
No we don't make love to it like some people think
u felt the need to specifically point this out
crude ermine
<@645647941750489119> how many inches of hair should i cut. i have like 12-14 in...
4
vivid bolt
No we don't make love to it like some people think
doubt.
crude ermine
If that doesn't work add by 3
serene sage
if you're murrican chances are you're typing this from a mcdonalds anyways
are u a non-murican?
strange sparrow
What do I change on it? I assume Sustained Fire->Surgical and Damage (Elites)->S...
Surgical and Maniacs
vivid bolt
If that doesn't work add by 3
mmm im goin for a wolf cut so tbh it could wor
spice wadi
are the baguette fuckers in the room with us
vivid bolt
depends how bad the split ends are
frank ether
are u a non-murican?
europoor
crude ermine
are the baguette fuckers in the room with us
Yeah
crude ermine
No
hard parcel
What do I change on it? I assume Sustained Fire->Surgical and Damage (Elites)->S...
Yep youโre right on the money for blessings, but I suggest changing the flak armored damage to something like manic or Carapace, pretty sure if my math is correct you can one shot ragers with that change.
crude ermine
Yes
civic knot
Do you really want pinning fire on bolter? ive heard that shattering impact can be preferable
crisp bronze
Yep youโre right on the money for blessings, but I suggest changing the flak arm...
The 20% Flak doesn't give me any breakpoints?
crude ermine
If they're equivalent to getting socks wet and door to door salesmen then that narrows the option
civic knot
it depends on how much you hate crushers
so shattering impact if i hate crushers?
serene sage
yeah
serene sage
If they're equivalent to getting socks wet and door to door salesmen then that n...
my sister might go to france to study (not a joke), will she be okay
strange sparrow
The 20% Flak doesn't give me any breakpoints?
It should do breakpoint because you're stuck with 5(without +10% damage nodes) isnt
serene sage
crude ermine
Or as much as possible
strange sparrow
bitter turtle
I heard japanese people get Paris syndrome
They go there thinking it's all blonde fancy ppl drinking tea in versailles
crude ermine
I wouldn't blame them for thinking that
bitter turtle
The get culture shocked to the point of hospitalization
crude ermine
Jesus
low lava
Tbh france
bitter turtle
I thought all French people were just Lili from tekken
serene sage
are they not? ๐
low lava
Lili aint french though
serene sage
where?
low lava
We got not noctis as the frenchman now
pastel geode
Even interacting with the French online can be a culture shock
crude ermine
Just don't make me talk about insects and you'll be fine
pastel geode
Can not is lol
bitter turtle
We got not noctis as the frenchman now
He's so goofy
serene sage
Just don't make me talk about insects and you'll be fine
what is your favorite spider
crude ermine
Ok so my fav has to be the Huntsman
serene sage
inb4 ik spideys aren't insect
crude ermine
They are arachnids that share the family with Scorpions to a degree
Did you know the stinger is also it's anus
pastel geode
I had a French buddy a while back that was headache inducing Lu obsessed with American politics
serene sage
scorpi or sipey
serene sage
๐ฆ
pastel geode
Did you know the stinger is also it's anus
I did not need to know that
crude ermine
You can tell whether one is venomous from how THICK the tail is
low lava
Had a french dude visit and brought him to roscoes, he paassed out after the meal that he didnt finish, not a certified hood moment
crude ermine
Thin pincers are usually the venom ones with thick tails
Thinner tails and thicker pincers and that's the opposite
hard parcel
Scrolling up and seeing the terminology you guys has me so confused, like I just found out what a breakpoint is.
serene sage
Man i could let a spider crawl on me I'd enjoy that
๐คจ
crude ermine
Teach it tricks
I would love having a basement that houses various insects that'd be neat
fiery thorn
am I in IG or french veteran channel?
bitter turtle
I fucking hate bugs
hard parcel
Thatโs why I love the Lasbore and Devil Claw Sword, simple weapons for a simple man.
crude ermine
I used to hide spiders from them and let them stay
pastel geode
What about a North American emperor scorpion as a pet?
serene orbit
TIL Jun and Luna are sisters
crude ermine
What about a North American emperor scorpion as a pet?
Lemme think on that
Ok so it's an iffy thing, they may be venemous but it won't kill you if you get unlucky
But I'd say start off simpler
bitter turtle
I don't want to kill something just bc I'm irrationally scared of it but holy shit I hate the twitchy way bugs move ๐
bitter turtle
I usually try to bait them into a cup and toss them outside
crude ermine
But regular centipedes NO
pastel geode
Oh personally Iโd sooner shoot it than pet it, just throwing stuff at the wall
crude ermine
Can't even step on them to kill them because they're too tough
Gotta use a hard shoe
Boot
crude ermine
Oh personally Iโd sooner shoot it than pet it, just throwing stuff at the wall
You will be haunted by the ghost of insect past
That was almost something other than insect
Autocorrect
pastel geode
lol
spice wadi
BUGS
serene sage
I don't kill insects unless absolutely necessary
spice wadi
they love BUGS
south garnet
is fire frenzy or deathspitter better? does deathspitter stack?
serene sage
Except for mosquitoes
pastel geode
Insects haunt my house daily, Iโve given up on dealing with them
serene sage
I would genocide them if I could
crude ermine
I don't kill insects unless absolutely necessary
The only but I'd recommend are female mosquitos
You can make observations to tell the difference
south garnet
I would genocide them if I could
in the south they've got big trucks that drive down the street in nicer areas and mist the entire neighborhood with mosquito murder
pastel geode
Wasps invade my house every year for the sole purpose of dying near the windows
serene sage
in the south they've got big trucks that drive down the street in nicer areas an...
Ah sweet justice
crude ermine
A picture to tell the difference
crude ermine
Wasps invade my house every year for the sole purpose of dying near the windows
Suicidal thoughts won in their heads
pastel geode
A picture to tell the difference
fathom rose
antaxe of atrox taxe? using them for a melee build with serrated blade
pastel geode
Bombs are fun
bitter turtle
Do you play yugioh but only use the C cards
south garnet
Which of these is the better blessing? It's unclear on the label how many times deathspitter stacks, if at all, but I usually tend towards +power over straight +damage
crude ermine
Do you play yugioh but only use the C cards
If I did maybe
low lava
Caxe vs tacaxe is mediocre, serrated blade is basically made for dagger memes
low lava
Caxe is better as a weapon though, not much interaction with serrated blades since you gear it to kill in as few hits as possible
crisp bronze
Best melee weapon to pair with Mk 1 Helbore? I'm currently considering the Power Sword Mk6 because the only thing I need it to do is kill Crushers, Maulers, and mulch hordes to big for the Bayonet.
strange sparrow
Best melee weapon to pair with Mk 1 Helbore? I'm currently considering the Power...
Take a shovel instead
Psword have problem of if Iโm pulling melee, I need it now ald
south garnet
32.5% power or 50% damage, of the two I believe power is preferable
strange sparrow
And thatโs the problem on hellbore
pastel geode
What if they added a horde mode to darktide?
strange sparrow
You could already stab garbage, the only time you need melee is urgently
serene sage
How is that different from what we have now?
low lava
It would be funny because most people dont know how to push through a horde
frank ether
Best melee weapon to pair with Mk 1 Helbore? I'm currently considering the Power...
any melee with brutal momentum
crisp bronze
Caxe vs tacaxe is mediocre, serrated blade is basically made for dagger memes
If Devil's Claw had Mercy Killer Serrated Blade boosted crit Weakspot Parries would be insane. Legitimately might hit 3000 Damage. 2500 at least. Alas that isn't our reality.
frank ether
power sword or combat axe with BM and you're set for helbore
pastel geode
Iโm thinking old school horde modes like gears
serene sage
Dun play gears
pastel geode
Zombies
bitter turtle
Best melee weapon to pair with Mk 1 Helbore? I'm currently considering the Power...
Use a melee with bromentum to buff bayo
pastel geode
Firefight
crisp bronze
Use a melee with bromentum to buff bayo
Does that still work? I thought it was patched?
pastel geode
We gotta buy more drip to fund it first
bitter turtle
Does that still work? I thought it was patched?
Limbsplitter was patched
Bromentum still works
serene sage
damn you type faster on phone than i do keyboard wtf
crisp bronze
Bromentum still works
Crazy. Power Sword it is then.
fathom rose
caxe momentum is op
serene sage
op is a strong word
pastel geode
Also I do accept Aquila donations in the emperors name
low lava
Never a good time not to take power sword unless you dont want to play an op weapon
bitter turtle
Though consider something faster to switch for pushes
crisp bronze
Actually If I can spare a few points somewhere... I can use my Rashad...
bitter turtle
Bayonet melee is great for everything except carapace and pushing bursters
serene sage
cx it is then
low lava
Power sword on vet just makes me question why im shooting when melee will do the job better lol
strange sparrow
Power sword on vet just makes me question why im shooting when melee will do the...
Shooting is fun
low lava
Till you run out of ammo zzz
serene sage
cause im lazy and don't want to run up to them
low lava
Or have to reload lol
strange sparrow
Psword cycling dodge slide mental gymnastics too bad
I hate that it is a routine
crisp bronze
Power sword on vet just makes me question why im shooting when melee will do the...
When you get a godroll Rashad it makes you question why you bothered with Power Sword TBH.
serene sage
or i can just stand behind cover and take my time left clicking
strange sparrow
Brainrot
low lava
Unironically yea, vermintide slayer brainworms
pastel geode
Next time I get on the game Iโm gonna make a melee vet build to see what the buzz is about
low lava
Movetech ingrained into muscle memory, dodge slide is just another one but easy
low lava
Actually i have boomer gunz brainrot lol
serene sage
everything ends
low lava
Most games are low apm to me
strange sparrow
Everything die to funny vets breakdancing infront of chaos
strange sparrow
Most games are low apm to me
Yeaโฆ it do be like that
Then again, my ass probably canโt play GunZ anymore cuz old
serene sage
real
low lava
I actually dl'd gunz just to fuck around in training, that game still is fun to move around in
strange sparrow
40 dollar mouse thou
wooden lotus
i have a blackwidow for the clicks and a weird mid-end logitech one with weights and extra buttons
its convenient
crisp bronze
Best Talents for Helbore? I think I have all the important ones... 30% Weak Spot Damage, Suppression Immunity, Desperado, 10% and 5% Delee Mamage, Shock Trooper, Kraks for Bulwarks, Tactical Awwreness and Iron Will finished off with VoC and Nade Regen. That's pretty much everything yeah?
strange sparrow
Best Talents for Helbore? I think I have all the important ones... 30% Weak Spot...
You do t need suppression immunity
glacial mist
am i going crazy or
low lava
Hellbore should take deadshot probably
glacial mist
the tactical axes used to be swiftstrike
wooden lotus
^
strange sparrow
Maybe focus target keystone
serene sage
went through like a dozen or so mouse though, them thing breaks fast
glacial mist
now it says flurry
crisp bronze
You do t need suppression immunity
I don't need it. But it feels soooo nice.
strange sparrow
And redirect fire
serene sage
is there anyuthing that is swiftstrike?
glacial mist
knives
wooden lotus
Bring It Down! and focus target will be your best friend unless you're heavily investing in the melee tree to pull it out sometime
strange sparrow
I don't *need* it. But it feels soooo nice.
Sound good
Remember, you could one shot full charge body into hordes
low lava
IBM keyboard boomer, got it at a garage sale for 20 bucks like 16 years ago lol
strange sparrow
Poxwalker stand no chances
low lava
Ibm spring keyboard built like a tank and still works after all this time
wooden lotus
i should get one of those cute mini pink keebs
crisp bronze
Sound good
I want to use Marksmans Focus and thats taking 2 points. With Stacks I can hit a lot more breakpoints without crits so Deadshot doesn't feel as necassary. Deadshot crits might give me more bodyshot breakpoints though.
strange sparrow
Deadshot with surgical is infinite ammo though
No I believe
serene sage
i should get one of those cute mini pink keebs
Idk how people function without numbers though