lmao
#veteran-class
cerulean void
strange sparrow
terse idol
Honestly
*I think helbore is a little clunky with exe but if you can one tap gunners... which you can, it's probably fine(
cerulean void
ooooooooooo
pastel geode
Frags on an infiltrate build possible? 🤔
cerulean void
Frags on an infiltrate build possible? 🤔
yeah but you gotta cross an entire two trees for it
tiny summit
*I think helbore is a little clunky with exe but if you can one tap gunners... w...
It's amazing. ET + CK + Iron Will stand in the open and you're invincible to gunners
cerulean void
tbh frags+infil+grenade regen is primo
strange sparrow
Also Grenadier give teammate extra grenade or?
cerulean void
sadly no, just you
shrewd acorn
How much of a dump stat is Defences for Chainaxes?
strange sparrow
How the fuck sometime I spawn with 4 grenades
tiny summit
If you take the deployable talent you can
tiny summit
How the fuck sometime I spawn with 4 grenades
Enhanced blitz
cerulean void
we love an enhanced blitz
strange sparrow
Enhanced blitz
That's a mission modifier right
cerulean void
mainly one for maelstrom mission types
strange sparrow
Man here I thought I could have funny 6 krak grenade one day
cerulean void
sadly does not appear in normal play
strange sparrow
mainly one for maelstrom mission types
I mean I play only Maels Auric damn so it make sense
tiny summit
I like running ogryn frag bomb on those missions
strange sparrow
just never look at the description
cerulean void
they skip smokes because they're bad
torn root
Frags on an infiltrate build possible? 🤔
nah, smoke is a neccessary tax 🙂
cerulean void
I take smokes so I can hotbox the elevator
strange sparrow
I take smokes so I can hotbox the elevator
tiny summit
I refuse to play vent purge + snipers. I'll play vent purge but not snipers
strange sparrow
Elevator room usually if one vet take smoke
cerulean void
I refuse to play vent purge + snipers. I'll play vent purge but not snipers
here let me help you with that throws smoke
if you believe in the emperor hard enough you'll hit the heretics
pastel geode
nah, smoke is a neccessary tax 🙂
strange sparrow
Vent purge is the only time I take HellBore Mk2 + Exec Stances
torn root
https://tenor.com/view/taxation-is-theft-taxes-tax-theft-ron-paul-gif-20540234
Tell that to FatShark
terse idol
<:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
???
torn root
Smokes are One-Way Smoke for the enemy
where's the lie?
terse idol
Huh???
tiny summit
Take my smokes with VoC
terse idol
Look, if you just throw it right gunners will literally just stand there
pastel geode
I refuse to pay the imperial tithe
cerulean void
until we get a lho sticks cosmetic I'm gonna keep taking smokes
torn root
Look, if you just throw it right gunners will literally just stand there
and shoot through it anyway
terse idol
They only shoot through
If they're shooting already
If they reposition in the smoke they'll just become confused
shadow aurora
Stupid question does brittle make bleed do more damage
cerulean void
they'll also only shoot where they think you are if they can't see you
terse idol
Yeah
strange sparrow
Stupid question does brittle make bleed do more damage
I will give you a yes but let me test that
terse idol
Which means they'll shoot your last known position if they're already shooting
wheeze
torn root
Stupid question does brittle make bleed do more damage
pretty sure brittle affects all damage, but that is hard to test with bleed
cerulean void
it's my favorite interaction lmao
terse idol
Its decent
shadow aurora
Oh okay funny build time
cerulean void
just two steps to the left or right and all their bullets go whiff whiff
terse idol
But imo you need to get the grenade upgrade
strange sparrow
Brittle only affect enemy with armor
terse idol
And either grenade regen or 5% grenade regen
cerulean void
l2aim common heretic L
shadow aurora
Brittle only affect enemy with armor
Yes
terse idol
I swear we spoke of brittle before
Is that the way you can make bleed builds on vet work
With brittle?
umbral scaffold
I want my Laslock and my Longlas XC
cerulean void
until we get a lho sticks cosmetic I'm gonna keep taking smokes
but lets be honest we're all waiting for:
tiny summit
Hotbox build
terse idol
I thought there was an interaction with grenades that got changed in a patch
shadow aurora
Hotbox build
Tf is this
strange sparrow
Tf is this
Weed hour
torn root
Brittle only affect enemy with armor
brittle actually just increases your modifyer against resistance type for your damage
cerulean void
Hotbox build
doing the Emperor's work 
radiant willow
I want my Laslock and my Longlas XC
A sniper in this game would feel odd since you are using a long ranged weapon in a horde shooter
tiny summit
Exactly what it looks like
torn root
it would work on monsters too not as effectively
terse idol
A sniper in this game would feel odd since you are using a long ranged weapon in...
Longlas
Wait wait wait
Lasguns are long ranged weapons
umbral scaffold
A sniper in this game would feel odd since you are using a long ranged weapon in...
ish, but VT2 had a crossbow and a handgun anyway, and it's not that weird when that's what they serve in VT2
shadow aurora
A sniper in this game would feel odd since you are using a long ranged weapon in...
I will make it work
terse idol
With an inverse damage drop off
cerulean void
longlas is typically a longer barreled lasgun with hotshot rounds
terse idol
ish, but VT2 had a crossbow and a handgun anyway, and it's not that weird when t...
Don't forget the soldiers bow
That was spiiicy
umbral scaffold
Don't forget the soldiers bow
MANBOW MY BELOVED
tiny summit
Imagine how toxic heresy can get if you also easily saw people's talent trees in lobby
cerulean void
at least, in the Gaunt's Ghosts books you'd melt through a barrel after a few mags IIRC
pulpy mmm
radiant willow
Lasguns are long ranged weapons
Yeah but a long las would turn you into a scab sniper
terse idol
longlas is typically a longer barreled lasgun with hotshot rounds
we got hotshot lasgun at home
hotshot lasgun at home:
torn root
Imagine how toxic heresy can get if you also easily saw people's talent trees in...
who tf is gunna be toxic in heresy?
strange sparrow
Stupid question does brittle make bleed do more damage
Here you go
radiant willow
So you would shoot and then have to run far to get into melee
tiny summit
who tf is gunna be toxic in heresy?
Thats where the toxic ones are
terse idol
Yeah but a long las would turn you into a scab sniper
That's exactly what I want
I want the longlas
To shoot like the sniper
But for us
cerulean void
necromunda longlas when
tiny summit
So you would shoot and then have to run far to get into melee
I'm pretty sure I'm recognize this pfp artist
radiant willow
I want a heavy stubber for the vet before we get snipers
terse idol
Hmm
cerulean void
So you would shoot and then have to run far to get into melee
why do you think we have the Vanguard talent
strange sparrow
I WANT A HEAVY LAS MACHINE GUN LIKE GUNNER
THAT SLOW YOU DOWN BUT GIVE YOU 200 ROUNDS OF DESTRUCTIONS
radiant willow
I'm pretty sure I'm recognize this pfp artist
I have the full picture on my PC I think. I'm not sure who the artist is it's shadowheart btw
cerulean void
I WANT A HEAVY LAS MACHINE GUN LIKE GUNNER
joyous news, Catshark did pass along that we want hellguns as a treat
strange sparrow
An actual horde clearing gun
is what I want
Can't deal with anything else but just a hordes of trash mobs
torn root
Aim Columnus at head height
terse idol
joyous news, Catshark did pass along that we want hellguns as a treat
Where
strange sparrow
braced auto las machine gun
terse idol
Where they say dis
strange sparrow
Aim Columnus at head height
I know I know but they're gonna pop the colunus away soon
cerulean void
THAT SLOW YOU DOWN BUT GIVE YOU 200 ROUNDS OF DESTRUCTIONS
heat mechanic
lots of bullets
inaccurate as hel
good for hordes and monsters because broad side of a barn
terse idol
Columnus is actually good vs hordes
torn root
I know I know but they're gonna pop the colunus away soon
dont you damn the CoD gun
strange sparrow
just like auto shredder pistol
terse idol
I know I know but they're gonna pop the colunus away soon
Then you better take the recon stonks
strange sparrow
it's going bye bye
cerulean void
Where they say dis
lemme find
radiant willow
Columbus can be good against most enemies aside from crushers
tiny summit
I think Fatshark knows there's a lot of things we want
torn root
Columbus can be good against most enemies aside from crushers
what?
terse idol
They just killed recon
torn root
nah gimmie a sec
tiny summit
Columbus can be good against most enemies aside from crushers
Onslaught and a mag? Bye crushers
strange sparrow
Columbus can be good against most enemies aside from crushers
Take onslaught
You kill them fast
terse idol
Okay to be fair
torn root
buggin
torn root
its kills them fast without sing abilities too lmao
strange sparrow
It is crazy but it's the only gun that act like an SMG right now
strange sparrow
I dont mind they make uncontrollable recoil
terse idol
It acts like an smg that fires .50
tiny summit
What if recon isn't bad but everything is overpowered 
radiant willow
I suppose I'm wrong god damn guys brought out the video evidence and shit
strange sparrow
It acts like an smg that fires .50
I quote someone else on this
Columnus actually does not have the highest DPS per mag
torn root
rending strikes improves the columnus ttk by like 15% for some reason it increases the damage more than 10%
hearty panther
What if recon isn't bad but everything is overpowered <:megachingryn:10911542817...
This is technically correct.
strange sparrow
I might need to check on this
torn root
but i wouldnt recommend one talent for just crushers
terse idol
I have not heard that
Regardless columnus has the fantasy of what an smg feels like
the reality is that smgs fire pistol rounds
*somrtimesJ
strange sparrow
tiny summit
Helbores need an anti carapace blessing for the bayonet
strange sparrow
Here you go
torn root
it literally has the highest dps
strange sparrow
I do not want to be a prime target of being pinged
torn root
idk why ppl mistake total damage and dps
cerulean void
Where they say dis
terse idol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1189344868292624535/i...
feedback it
😭
Close enough for me
strange sparrow
Tbh, Everytime FS nerf sometimes
It get terribly toss into C tier
cerulean void
it's what we got right now :c
strange sparrow
VT2 era do be like that too
terse idol
Oh feed it back
wanton dawn
I am happy to announce that bayonet build are perfectly usable in auric maelstrom 
strange sparrow
darktide with Auto Shredder and Recon too
marsh condor
I just want to use this as a Veteran.
radiant willow
Columnus is a lot of fun I'll try it with onslaught
muted knot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1189344868292624535/i...
Yooooooo
terse idol
Tbh, Everytime FS nerf sometimes
It get terribly toss into C tier
nerf
Bruh
We talked about sister of thorns
muted knot
I just want to use this as a Veteran.
A stubber ?
radiant willow
A browning lol but it's not exactly 40k a stubber would be cool
terse idol
Just not playing like you wanted it to
marsh condor
A stubber ?
A heavy Stubber
muted knot
Sorry
marsh condor
Apologies accepted.
cerulean void
a singular, non-twin linked heavy stubber
muted knot
I thought that's the only version lol
marsh condor
And yes.
terse idol
Just because the designers changed something to align closer to their intention doesn't mean it's trash
muted knot
Is there a light stubber ?
terse idol
Sister of thorns is still great tier
cerulean void
Is there a light stubber ?
canonically? yes
strange sparrow
Not like SotT is the only subject
terse idol
They did a whole class redesign for many classes
I dunno man
The game isn't about only doing damage
torn root
The game isn't about only doing damage
this
marsh condor
Is there a light stubber ?
A Stubber is basically any lever-action, bolt-action or semi-auto rifles.
muted knot
Ah gotcha
strange sparrow
Remember our dwarf's throwing axe
cerulean void
The game isn't about only doing damage
I will continue to stan smokes until they are improved
tiny summit
They never intended Assail to become a primary and people became pissy when it was nerfed and still perfectly usable
marsh condor
Speaking of that, I also want to use an M1 Garand (with bayonet) as a Zealot.
radiant willow
The game isn't about only doing damage
I've only ever enjoyed being DPS in any game I like seeing big numbers and dead bodies
strange sparrow
Speaking of that, I also want to use an M1 Garand (with bayonet) as a Zealot.
Hellbore
torn root
Like even after the nerfs and the new classes came to the game i still liked base ranger
need my pots and ammo
strange sparrow
They never intended Assail to become a primary and people became pissy when it w...
I would say it's still usable because Crit talent
cerulean void
I just want a bayonet on a normal lasgun :c
strange sparrow
*As a Zealot.*
sorry didn't see
terse idol
I've only ever enjoyed being DPS in any game I like seeing big numbers and dead ...
Thats fair
But the designers often ha e different ideas how different archetypes function
torn root
I've only ever enjoyed being DPS in any game I like seeing big numbers and dead ...
most ppl have a main character syndrome where they ahve to be the carry
not to bash anyone but even ff14 had this issue
cerulean void
I've only ever enjoyed being DPS in any game I like seeing big numbers and dead ...
- Do you have a decent pc?
- would you like to increase the ragdoll count past 50?
torn root
too many dps players at one point
marsh condor
Is the Mk3 Helbore bayonet still shite?
terse idol
Also because if any given class can just do everything by doing the most damage like it doesn't let anybody else shine
wanton dawn
Is the Mk3 Helbore bayonet still shite?
ye
strange sparrow
I don't like playing a support because after 20 hours of psyker support
terse idol
At that point you may as well play solo catacylsm
strange sparrow
it just really really dull
terse idol
I don't like playing a support because after 20 hours of psyker support
You played 300 hours kerillian
Dps
strange sparrow
Yes Im aware
terse idol
And then roll it back back sott is now support for a patch
Like chiiief
It just ain't it
You still have 3 other classes that do
Damage
sand hemlock
being a support/tank build and hoping your random auric pubs can scrounge together the combined 7 brain cells to do dps is a gamble to put it lightly
strange sparrow
All of the other DLC character have their DPS upgrade while kerilian just..
terse idol
Handmaiden kinda, they're a weird dodge tank with an incredibly strong charge
terse idol
All of the other DLC character have their DPS upgrade while kerilian just..
They... didnt
I mean
low lava
Kerillian is the DPS upgrade lol
terse idol
Crusader cruber was nerfed iirc can't one shot bosses
wanton dawn
I don't like "support" build in this game. Often time it feels like "I am not doing much damage at all and you better kill stuff"
terse idol
For you and your team
strange sparrow
Kerillian is the DPS upgrade lol
Kerillian HandMaiden was not that DPS upgrade overall, because it focus on survivability
radiant willow
And then roll it back back sott is now support for a patch
Tbf as an elf main in vt2 I enjoy the sott because lifting up chaos warriors is hilarious and her poison isn't half bad
low lava
Sister of Thorns was actually a dps downgrade (after they nerfed how dumb the no wall ult was)
terse idol
Tbf as an elf main in vt2 I enjoy the sott because lifting up chaos warriors is ...
Yeah
But this is why we argued with Nahcies yesterday
strange sparrow
Yea the wall become
terse idol
Because SotT isn't top dps
low lava
Handmaiden still does good damage lol
strange sparrow
funny
terse idol
It was never supposed to be
low lava
terse idol
Well yeah hand maiden had a unique role of having talents that
Let her dodge
And do damage
I love spear hand maiden
strange sparrow
If you release a character that mainly have people play her as DPS
terse idol
Poke
radiant willow
I'll not lie as an elf main I also went hard to get all my green circles
terse idol
then put dps away
It was never the design intention
Bam
They nerfed it
Because they wanted her to be more support
SHE HAS A STAFF TO LIFT PEOPLE
low lava
Then they gave her javelins and that took years to get nerfed
radiant willow
I'm sad darktide hides the kill counter and didn't really have a score board at the end
strange sparrow
She have Javelin that 4 shot CK tbh
terse idol
Yeah
strange sparrow
Which is more useful that a staff
terse idol
That nerfed
I dunno chief
Itsnjust trying to get things in line
So other people can shine
strange sparrow
Let me check, the nerf didn't impact her CK-killing potential
but the wave clearing cleave
radiant willow
Chasing green circle was my life during vt2
strange sparrow
Go around the wall
terse idol
Sott was the whole
strange sparrow
hexed imp
i just discovered you can vent the plasma gun like a pysker quelling their peril
terse idol
Ranged caster
hexed imp
what in the hell
terse idol
What do you meeean
pastel geode
Meltagun when bigfish?
terse idol
She can't do literally everything
😭
Its like playing bounty hunter that's geared towards ranged and single target dps then saying why can't I clear hoordessss
Your job isn't clearing hoordes
terse idol
what in the hell
Yeah its useful
strange sparrow
Yea it still 4 shot CK with Javelin
The nerf was targetted at hordes killing
which you have insane cleave
cerulean void
terse idol
That's okay
Then that means
Fs wanted the javelin
To go for single target and not
Horde clear
strange sparrow
But S&D still do the clearing as it should be
terse idol
But S&D still do the clearing as it should be
I mwan
Its a sword and beard derivative
It has no ranged
Javelin has both
But its focus is ranged
🥹
strange sparrow
oh Javelin Melee is still strong
terse idol
That's fine
strange sparrow
You can still deal with waves with that
marsh condor
Its a sword and beard derivative
Sword and beard?
terse idol
What you saying I'm so confused
strange sparrow
No, they nerfed the Throwing department
not the left click javelin department
so you can still cleave..
terse idol
Sword and beard?
strange sparrow
with the javelin...
terse idol
I really thought you said the cleave was nerfed
strange sparrow
The right click use to pierce multiple target, which you can soften the wave
radiant willow
Jav elf was great but I see why it got nerfed
terse idol
I did
strange sparrow
Also Javelin is a DLC item which is a major power creep
marsh condor
strange sparrow
Along with Spear and Shield/MoonBow
terse idol
which got nerfed
strange sparrow
Hell MoonBow making a return
low lava
I never got to mess with pre nerf moonbow lol
terse idol
Its just balanve discussion
marsh condor
terse idol
Getting things in liiine
marsh condor
Just two LMGs I found
terse idol
Funny RPK
strange sparrow
Nah, MoonBow suck straight after the nerf
marsh condor
This ain't an RPK
strange sparrow
because the single attack MoonBow was terrible
low lava
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKoqArJjYIo But I played the game early enough for this
pastel geode
Rpd needs to make a comeback in games
low lava
theres your RPK blessed by sigmar himself
strange sparrow
the nerf revolves around the "AOE" and "Single Target damage"
which is dumb so you never use it
marsh condor
Rpd needs to make a comeback in games
Imagine if Darktide became the first game to introduce it.
strange sparrow
Cant kill single shit, can't kill multiple trash skaven
pastel geode
I haven’t seen an rpd in a game since like cod 4 lol
muted knot
Rpk gang
terse idol
I played a few mil sims like squad
muted knot
Is it ?
marsh condor
This is an RPK.
terse idol
Love me lmgs
muted knot
Well
pastel geode
So ogryn but immobile
marsh condor
Stops you from moving, but you can actually aim it.
pastel geode
I’d rather hellgun at that point
strange sparrow
All I want is Dev to remove Lasgun "Quirks"
marsh condor
Imagine if they introduce Hellguns for Vets and Heavy Stubbers for Zeas.
strange sparrow
Inverse Damage Drop-Off in this game is just dumb
muted knot
Didn't see your other message
marsh condor
They should limit it to the brown Lasgun
muted knot
Is my laser bolt getting stronger by existing longer ??
strange sparrow
The Map Design also doesn't support Lasgun Existences
muted knot
It makes no sense
terse idol
Inverse Damage Drop-Off in this game is just dumb
Hard disagree
strange sparrow
Everything can spawn behind your back
muted knot
Huge disagree
Elaborate
marsh condor
Wait, wait, wait.
terse idol
That the inverse damage makes sense for the gameplay the lasgun has
The entire point is sniping away shooters
strange sparrow
There are maps with the huge open sight lines
Doesn't stop enemy from spawning behind your back thou
terse idol
Before they can hurt your team
terse idol
Doesn't stop enemy from spawning behind your back thou
Okay?
marsh condor
Is there a datamined long las model?
terse idol
Like
It can't be easy
This is why darktide is mixed melee ranged
The opportunities where lasgun shines are when sight lines open
And that happens more than you think
When you play lasgun marksmen
strange sparrow
I mean I play Hellbore MarksMan
terse idol
Mostly the desert map
terse idol
Okay and the defense areas?
strange sparrow
Especially the newer map
strange sparrow
Train Finale is just people hiding in the cart tbh
terse idol
The large hallway before the train
marsh condor
Now that we're talking about maps, are we going to get open maps as our new maps?
terse idol
Train Finale is just people hiding in the cart tbh
Uh
I have never had to hold out in the cart
Half that map is open
Hell
If you play the desert maps
Its all wide open rooms
strange sparrow
Yea but player can choose to not engage in the open area
terse idol
With gunners on roof tops and on patios
terse idol
Yea but player can choose to not engage in the open area
You cant
Because of drop downs
strange sparrow
???
pastel geode
I’ve never had a team hide in the train even on auric
sage agate
please, hadron...
terse idol
Which is a great place to also make long ranged shots
sage agate
terse idol
And another
strange sparrow
I’ve never had a team hide in the train even on auric
You just need to drop a ping and ask people to come
they know
terse idol
Is another drop down into a wide open area
strange sparrow
So you take a weapon to use in those specific drop down of the area which may have gunners or no
pastel geode
^
terse idol
So you take a weapon to use in those specific drop down of the area which may ha...
Wait wait
sage agate
it's a lil bit over
terse idol
But that means
You're making ling ranged shots against gunners
That's even better for the lasgun
strange sparrow
But why do you need lasgun for that specifically thou
You could do it with a vraks headhunter
terse idol
I should reiterate and say I don't mind that ranged isn't easy
strange sparrow
hell even an IAG can do that
terse idol
Thst you are easily intercepted
Becauuuse
When you actually get to shine it's great
strange sparrow
...
terse idol
You literally trade shots against shooters in long ranges
terse idol
But why do you need lasgun for that specifically thou
Because that's where inverse damage drop off shines
strange sparrow
This doesn't play into effect on why Inverse Damage Drop-off is a great mechanics for Las Weapon
terse idol
Because its interesting and differentiates it from head hunters
strange sparrow
So it's just a quirk
terse idol
If they had the same profile why not just take a vraks 7
Yes
Quirks make interesting situations
strange sparrow
I take Mk2 for the bayonet
terse idol
Okay
strange sparrow
not because it's a lasgun
terse idol
That's nice
terse idol
I take a lasgun because it's a lasgun
And I think the quirk is neat
Actually makes you think about how you're engaging
strange sparrow
I mean it sound dumb because the game have a lot of engagement that have <15m
than >15m
terse idol
But
Many maps actually have
Long sightlines
15m isn't that crazy to meet either 🥹
Although yes I will agree
Some maps will make you hurt
Investigation, with the plague tanks
But there are alooot of times where you can make long range shooting work if you position right
My raannt
I'm dying
stoic atlas
So I'm getting back into the game after about a year break, I've a maxed zealot but heard there was a lot of changes for vet. Can someone point me in the direction of I guess what would be a "meta" build?
marsh condor
Just a dumb idea I had about this one map.
strange sparrow
So I'm getting back into the game after about a year break, I've a maxed zealot ...
You could get plasma/Columnus
terse idol
So I'm getting back into the game after about a year break, I've a maxed zealot ...
Uh
If you want "meta" take VOC, and focus target and you'll be okay
VoC with the toughness regen
strange sparrow
Each build differently but most build now revolves around VoC
tiny summit
My raannt
Deserves to be said! Too many people overthink stuff like Longshot, killzone, catch a breath and MF
marsh condor
What if we get a very long bridge map?
terse idol
What if we get a very long bridge map?
Hm
It would need to be very wide
But it could be neat
The issue like
Bosses, pox bursters
Unless you give it big walls
muted knot
What if we get a very long bridge map?
Trench warfare map 
terse idol
They'll murder ya
muted knot
Basically just a survival mission
marsh condor
I was thinking of making that a survival phase.
muted knot
Hold the trench
sage agate
Trench warfare map <a:yesgryn:1024009817846710434>
god what i wouldn't give to get off of vraks
muted knot
The krieg cosplayers would go so hard
inland orchid
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-26209389
He busting it down gas mask style
sharp ember
untargetable snipers that aim at you if you peek over the trench line for too long 
muted knot
Trench warfare map and you're working with kriegsmen
Hold out till eathshackers come in
terse idol
FS pls give map making tools to modders
muted knot
Then push the other side
muted knot
Yes
stoic atlas
Uh
If you want "meta" take VOC, and focus target and you'll be okay
Thank you! I was trying to look on games lantern but feel so lost lol
terse idol
Yeeahh
muted gorge
has fat shark ever given out the mapping tools?
marsh condor
Imagine if the new special assignment is basically Survival Mode.
terse idol
I mean like, if you just stick voc and focus target, tailor your weapons for one another
If you need help with weapon stats ask
muted gorge
Imagine if the new special assignment is basically Survival Mode.
then wolfer himself assaults your position
stoic atlas
that's what i figured. id rather ask and learn
muted knot
Yeah gameslantern builds are questionable
marsh condor
then wolfer himself assaults your position
A mite too early, I think.
muted knot
You will never go wrong if you go
Survivalist aura>Voice of command with the overheal node> focus target
Also don't forget the grenade Regen node
muted gorge
A mite too early, I think.
who else could be the next special assignment boss?
unless they intorduce an ew enemy commander or something
terse idol
who else could be the next special assignment boss?
A new unnamed daemon or something
muted knot
A different enemy faction probably
marsh condor
Now that I thought about it, how are we going to make it work to begin with?
muted knot
Wdym
marsh condor
Ammo's not unlimited unless you're a Psyker.
muted gorge
how soon do yall even think the next special assignment is gonna be, i think its gonna be AWHILE
tiny summit
A heretic bonehead
terse idol
Oh yeah don't forget we did get a vox transmission of an enemy we didn't hear about
marsh condor
how soon do yall even think the next special assignment is gonna be, i think its...
On a scale of 1 (soon) to 5 (nah), I'm on 4.
terse idol
Remeber when that wurmwood agent got her soul sucked out?
muted knot
Ye
stoic atlas
If anyone is online rn and can send their tree id greatly appreciate c':
muted gorge
Ammo's not unlimited unless you're a Psyker.
yea yknow all that special ammunition we get from the raid missions, we finally get to use it
terse idol
Yeah that might be woofers boss
muted knot
If anyone is online rn and can send their tree id greatly appreciate c':
There's a whole threat with vet builds In this channel
terse idol
We domt know the details yet exactly
Rannick didn't even say anything
Which is weird...
muted knot
Rannick definitely traitor
terse idol
muted knot
Maybe not straight up heretic but he definitely has a different agenda
Maybe a radical
muted gorge
couldnt be Zola
terse idol
I mean eh naw
muted knot
Zola is hard-line imperium you can not convince me otherwise
muted gorge
one of the zealot voice lines says they trust Zola, that she wil lbe tested and not found wanting
muted gorge
i trust the voice lines
muted knot
He's a interrogator
terse idol
Oh yeah interrogator
muted knot
Not a Inquisitor
terse idol
We haven't even heard of the lord inquisition grendyl since the start
muted gorge
or wait is that shipmaster
muted knot
Have we seen grendyl ?
muted knot
or wait is that shipmaster
That's brahms
terse idol
In the servitor
muted knot
Hmm
muted gorge
In the servitor
thats not REALLY seeing grendyl
muted knot
Don't remember
muted gorge
it keeps changing faces
terse idol
The shipmaster is the rogue trader that Grendyl commissioned the ship from
terse idol
it keeps changing faces
Oh yeah... I just thought it was the first bald guy
muted knot
Isn't that Morrow ?
muted gorge
we know nothing about Grendyl as far as i know
muted knot
Is it ?
muted knot
How do you arrive at ogryn ?
muted gorge
this is all speculation
muted knot
Cause that can just be a bulky bald man
muted knot
Oh yeah that's a ogryn
terse idol
So rightfully Grendyl is hiding his face
burnt flame
terse idol
I mean shit he could be so undercover that he could be one of the guardsmen
We just don't know what he's doing
muted knot
*I mean shit he could be so undercover that he could be one of the guardsmen*
That would be a really funny move
terse idol
That's pretty gooood
fossil basalt
Sometimes when I'm all tucked in I imagine that I AM A WARRIOR and it puts me right to sleep 
fossil basalt
Gotta get that psychic protection up somehow
Imperium likes teambuilding exercises
torn root
this is a lot of investment to kill 1 crusher ngl
muted knot
You could just throw a Krak
crude fiber
mk3 3 can do that in 1 shot without stim with the right build and a good roll
fossil basalt
I just want one update...
terse idol
tired ember
Imperium likes teambuilding exercises
In the grim darkness of the 42nd millenium, there is only corporate mandatory fun
crude fiber
I just want one update...
1 damage to crusher on crit hit
south vessel
I just want one update...
heretics hate Ham
terse idol
In the grim darkness of the 42nd millenium, there is only corporate mandatory fu...
I like to think that it's like when military leadership thinks that they can increase troop morale by just forcing a PT day on a Saturday
fossil basalt
1 damage to crusher on crit hit
Don't matter, heretics can't catch holy hands
crude fiber
they wouldnt need to lol
terse idol
"What troop morale is bad because they work too many hours?"
"Let's force a day so they can be at work on a weekend that'll help!"
tired ember
Don't matter, heretics can't catch holy hands
Unironically an Ogryn brass knuckles weapon would go really hard
fossil basalt
So hard
crude fiber
itd be cool to have in the game i guess but if i random que and see a goober running no weapons in auric damnation then im backing out
tired ember
actually just import all of TF2 heavies melees and give them to ogryn
terse idol
actually just import all of TF2 heavies melees and give them to ogryn
The festive glove taunt kill combo on crusher
tired ember
The festive glove taunt kill combo on crusher
pre-nerf Gloves of running urgently, outpace a knife zealot
sage agate
The festive glove taunt kill combo on crusher
festive glove the boss in the back
terse idol
festive glove the boss in the back
"POW! haha!"
wet elk
what would you guys change
fossil basalt
No, we'll never have a bare fists weapon because if GW OKs a squad of zealots beating up a plague ogryn for space drugs behind the carnival they'll never hear the end of it
strange sparrow
Im just happy that we got 600 plasteel...
rose cave
which shovel best
fossil basalt
Yes
rose cave
agreed
fossil basalt
The base shovel good cc and can be a good can opener with uncanny strikes, haven't tried out new one but I hear it's just a can opener with less cc
forest blaze
Mk3 is very popular
strange sparrow
Mk7 got the best can opener for crusher imo
fossil basalt
I'd also change that carapace to maniac but that's cause I run rending backstab
terse idol
I haven't build a knife yet I gotta learn
fossil basalt
Flesh tearer is just a worse lacerate change my mind
fossil basalt
I haven't build a knife yet I gotta learn
It's pretty flexible, I like the backstab bonus damage
crude fiber
imagine not aiming for weakspots
fossil basalt
Lacerate's for horde clear
terse idol
What like executor uncanny
fossil basalt
Or mercy+uncanny and serrated blade talent
terse idol
I guess for the new knife lacerate aint the worse
fossil basalt
Yeah the wide sweeps do it justice
fossil basalt
Swap rampage for power cycler if you can, otherwise brutal momentum
And then... either perk to anything else
I'd swap crit off cause stam is whatever
keen skiff
thanks biggun
fossil basalt
Loves me a stam build
terse idol
what should i put on my power sword fellas?
Its not so hot ima be real
If you can get yeah power cycler
And BM
That's the best you got
keen skiff
honestly i just wanted a power sword in my locker :}
terse idol
Slaughter to BM
muted knot
It's MK3 so slaughter should be fine imo
crude fiber
was gonna say does the mk3 need BM? since it uses heavies most of the time
strange sparrow
Share me a funny Melee Vet build
muted knot
Fuck
strange sparrow
No Smoke no Infi
muted knot
Someone made bolter bash build a few days ago
It's lit
Can't remember who it was tho
fossil basalt
You wanted funny vet build, everything you listed is the only funny things vet gets
Everything else srs bzns
terse idol
No Smoke no Infi
VOC weapon spec
strange sparrow
I dont wanna blind half my team and Go invisible
fossil basalt
That's funny tho
terse idol
Invisibility is to do extra damage yourself
strange sparrow
Don't want the chinese to open mic and scream at me tbh
terse idol
I mean I didn't take low profile
So I'm using it to help myself get out of situations and then do extra damage and gain toughness
fossil basalt
Oh yeah, toughness tank infil is batty
terse idol
Don't want the chinese to open mic and scream at me tbh
I will be faiirA
You need to know how to throw the smoke
It should behave like CSGO's smoke, so we can find smoke angles
strange sparrow
Sniper are has become the least threatening enemy type rn for me
fossil basalt
peeking a sniper with preysense goggles
inland orchid
>peeking a sniper with preysense goggles
True that radar junk nasty
Can’t snipe if they get counter sniped
I gotta give old yeller volleyfire a shot again, been enjoying VoC too much
Overtoughness is good support but so is recon for where enemies are
native citrus
What talents are folks running with vraks?
wise fossil
What's everyone's favorite Helbore mk?
terse idol
I gotta give old yeller volleyfire a shot again, been enjoying VoC too much
Marksmen exec stance is actually so fun
fossil basalt
What's everyone's favorite Helbore mk?
I like 3 but I wish the bayonet slash was stronger
wise fossil
the main difference is the charge time, right?
fossil basalt
And the fact that you can't hold it down to make the attack stronger
strange sparrow
Charge - Damage - Bayonet Attack
inland orchid
Marksmen exec stance is actually so fun
Haven’t touched since the new abilities tbh, thanks for the inspiration to go back to el roots 
strange sparrow
Also Mk 3 have better ironsight
fossil basalt
It's an overhead slash instead of a stab and it's just sad comparatively
Which is fine, if the damage and stagger was there
It's also sad because it has the best looking bayonet imo
It'll melt through crushers like butter tho
strange sparrow
PoxBurster can't be resistant with Curios?
Bombers should be the "Grenadier" isn't?
terse idol
Haven’t touched since the new abilities tbh, thanks for the inspiration to go ba...
I will say just dont over think marksmens focus
inland orchid
I will say just dont over think marksmens focus
The stamina thingy? Roger I’ll keep it in mind
fossil basalt
It's bustedly good if you don't worry about keeping stacks up
tall torrent
The stamina thingy? Roger I’ll keep it in mind <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180...
No, the left keystone that boosts ranged weakspot & crit dmg
inland orchid
No, the left keystone that boosts ranged weakspot & crit dmg
Oh my dumb self confused that with the node that uses stamina when u ADS shot
Thanks for clarification
wise fossil
Hadron just gave me Sustained Fire 3 on three helbores in a row
what god or gods did I anger to deserve this
fossil basalt
what god or gods did I anger to deserve this
Did you recite the proper incantations and rituals to the Omnissiah?
tall torrent
Hadron just gave me Sustained Fire 3 on three helbores in a row
Hadron has bricked like 14 HBs just to not give me no respite 4
fossil basalt
Blessed be the machine god
wise fossil
I didn't sacrifice three raspberry pis in the ritual fire
fossil basalt
Gotta get those purity seals on your pc
inland orchid
Maybe light a bit of incense too
slate sleet
hardon here, pay attention
winged laurel
hardon here, pay attention
Hard On? This is not tinder, you are in a wrong Vox
inland orchid
Hard On? This is not tinder, you are in a wrong Vox
lol now I can’t get 40k tinder outta my head
How utterly chaotic it must be
“Left, left, ayo is that a elda-“
winged laurel
well GrandpaSmurf and Yvrein are there alredy so...
slate sleet
im banging this slaneesh e-girl 2nite
desert hawk
dump stat stopping power is big sad
crisp rapids
goddamit
i push a pox burster
and dodge backwards
AND I STILL GET FUCKING EXPLODED
strange sparrow
You should always double dodge backwards
crisp rapids
what's the minimum mobility wiht a Power Sword for that to not happen?
slate sleet
strange sparrow
Probably too late where your push didn't push far enough
crisp rapids
it wasnt midair
strange sparrow
You will take the damage
crisp rapids
and evne it if was middair, i can usually dodge away with a Dueling sword
and other melees
slate sleet
i really wish the dueling sword was available to vet
i love using that thing on psyker
strange sparrow
I need to download that mod thingy that spawn stuff in
to prove people wrong one sec
ebon umbra
crisp rapids
is it a mobility thign?
slate sleet
its the pokeanator 5000
so easy to poke weakspots with it
has insane mobility
fantastic lights for horde clear
strange sparrow
Dueling Sword is probably the best dancing weapon in game rn
focus on just raw skill on poking heads
slate sleet
its super satisfying to use
slate sleet
ogryn funny rock is champion of funny mutant ragdolls
sacred spindle
Charged plasma to the bonce - massive hole where his head was
strange sparrow
no skill u mean
south vessel
what exactly am I rescuing this person from?
strange sparrow
Skill issue
You don't even need to dodge
Just push
Your diagnose is your push is too late
People tend to think this is "Pushed"
He already complete the Mid Air Lunge Animation
Your only way to avoid this is double dodge in the back
delicate estuary
People tend to think this is "Pushed"
I raise you a pub exploding it
dodge that
heretic
magic wyvern
Hey anyone know where the DKOK cosmetic set is located? All I can find is the Armaggeddon head piece.
strange sparrow
or just be absolutely abusive on Toughness Curios and VoC/IronWill
muted knot
Hey anyone know where the DKOK cosmetic set is located? All I can find is the Ar...
It's a Halloween thing
Not available anymore
magic wyvern
oh
muted knot
Ye
muted knot
The shop rotates every now and then
muted knot
Hm. do you think they'll bring it back?
Id say so yes
It sells well I imagine
And the models are already made
magic wyvern
DKOK is really popular and was more than the others so I don't know why they wouldn't? kek
serene orbit
are shotguns worth using on vet or zealot? heard that they're just not as good as other options
midnight mortar
Rotation is every two weeks.
strange sparrow
are shotguns worth using on vet or zealot? heard that they're just not as good a...
It's not the best weapon but I see people have success with the Special Ammo on Shotgun
serene orbit
death korps of krieg?
south vessel
ah
strange sparrow
Krieger
terse idol
We waiting on the Scion stuff
Another rotation of Krieger
Which I hope they add more
terse idol
inland orchid
There’s worse gasmasks out there for the witch, hell look at the 21st drip
Made me buy cool navigator drip
strange sparrow
A lot of Psyker's Cosmetic make me puke
Veteran Cosmetics are pretty standard
What you expect generic soldier doing
inland orchid
Busting it down militarium style on the battle field obv
frank ledge
A lot of Psyker's Cosmetic make me puke
Vet has too much camo
strange sparrow
Zealot is just...
frank ledge
We need more basic uniforms
delicate estuary
or just be absolutely abusive on Toughness Curios and VoC/IronWill
stinky voc
user
strange sparrow
stinky voc
Iron Will Synergy too good that I can't give up
torn root
you DON'T need more than one toughness curio when you have VoC an Iron will
delicate estuary
Iron Will Synergy too good that I can't give up
what I call a skill issue
strange sparrow
Sometime I question this
delicate estuary
delicate estuary
Sometime I question this
look a condom suit
strange sparrow
what I call a skill issue
It's alright, I learn to live by +300 yellow toughness on Mael Auric
I don't mind getting called skill issue
strange sparrow
you DON'T need more than one toughness curio when you have VoC an Iron will
No, You get more to squeeze some ridicously toughness reduction
serene orbit
Worth upgrading? Not sure how vital the stopping power stat is
torn root
No, You get more to squeeze some ridicously toughness reduction
if im at 175 staying at 175 you're gunna be at 225 staying at 225
its needless toughness lmao
torn root
you tank a pox burster with 225 which is that you hit at 175
its up all the time in auric
strange sparrow
I mean I could run one right now to prove otherwise
torn root
sec let me learn how spawner worsk to show
bright cliff
Worth upgrading? Not sure how vital the stopping power stat is
stopping power is the stagger effect and iirc some level of armor pierce but this is a good weapon nonetheless
you can inspect the weapon to have it show you exactly what stopping power is doing for you
white minnow
yellow toughness always protects against bursters, regardless of how much toughness you have
strange sparrow
if im at 175 staying at 175 you're gunna be at 225 staying at 225
Hmm it could tank one poxburster regardless of the yellow toughness
not even 1 is needed
torn root
I mean I could run one right now to prove otherwise
what's this?
crisp rapids
i as talking about power sword
torn root
so again toughness curio kinda unnecessary
vernal sundial
melk is offering this, stats look good but idk the good blessings for the new revolver
strange sparrow
i as talking about power sword
Just push, if you push correctly, it work
white minnow
toughness is still nice nevertheless for just not needing to be in cover
strange sparrow
You did not push correctly against a poxburster
inland orchid
When in doubt double push
crisp rapids
so ur sauing all the other times i did exatcly what am doing and dint get exploded
inland orchid
Will it use more stamina? Of course
crisp rapids
its just luck
torn root
toughness is still nice nevertheless for just not needing to be in cover
not my argument
not saying it isnt nice
strange sparrow
so ur sauing all the other times i did exatcly what am doing and dint get explod...
No, you failed your push
Shrimple as
crisp rapids
i didnt, the borsters clearlyl gets yeeted back
torn root
you can still get out of range when they are mid lunge tho
white minnow
psword dodge is pretty short
terse idol
Dodge back twice boom
white minnow
but the game cheats in your favor when you try to push bursters
push early and you'll still usually push it
terse idol
People building minmaxed weapons with 10 mobi
crisp rapids
i have 55% mobility
terse idol
crisp rapids
on my ps
torn root
on melee mobility should never be below 60% imo
crisp rapids
i dodge backwars
flint garden
i mean sometimes the game acts funny
crisp rapids
i always dodge
strange sparrow
to begin with, you don't need to dodge backward if you push a burster correctly
torn root
sometimes you have to dodge twice
crisp rapids
i mean sometimes the game acts funny <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
and then this shit happens
strange sparrow
As I said, you pushed him too late.
crisp rapids
i didnt
white minnow
you could always dodge-slide to get the most out of your dodge, since i'm not sure if vet's dodge cooldown is fast enough to get two dodges off quickly
or you could push the burster twice, assuming you have the stamina to do two pushes
crisp rapids
i mean sometimes the game acts funny <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
i was about as far as this .
soryr for piungus
torn root
nah for good practice you need to just shove and dash
crisp rapids
i shove and dodge backwards
strange sparrow
torn root
you can do both at the same time
crisp rapids
the game just decided to troll me
torn root
really no excuse not to shove and dash at the same time
torn root
if you do it right im sure you have enough time to dash 2 times
crisp rapids
bruh the game acted like that vid from the ogryn guy
strange sparrow
There is certainly no luck involve in this
torn root
you ALWAYS have enough space is you shove and dodge at the same time, i could have dodged an extra time
strange sparrow
nontheless, it's a skill issue
terse idol
I mean, frankly
The best time to push a pox burster is mid jump 🥹
Is that what y'all getting at
serene orbit
you can inspect the weapon to have it show you exactly what stopping power is do...
I dislike getting two new t4 blessings on a weapon i want to keep
terse idol
If you wait till like it's toughing you
torn root
The best time to push a pox burster is mid jump 🥹
no
normal pawn
People tend to think this is "Pushed"
The amount of people that dont know you need to push after it starts fuming but before it jumps is higher than i am right now.
terse idol
WHILE it's jumping like
serene orbit
err, misquote
white minnow
you can also push the burster right as it ebgins its detonation phase
torn root
best time is probably before the jump
strange sparrow
No he's right
torn root
but post jump you got options