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The entire game was a hassle because my 3 teammates decided to try Auric Damnation to see if they can get carried
While not doing any boss damage
lately when I see a weak link on my team I think of it as an extra challenge in the run
why not when game is ez
Yea this tbh
You don't play Damnation you have no idea what you are talking about
As long they don’t res me in fire
This is the definition of small dick energy
i told you this shit is a plaguye

This why I don’t worry bout numbers too much, the zombies n regular scabs/dregs flood the numbers to where if I did want to care bout total kills it’d be washed away by anyone with good Add clear
found the knife zealot
ofc the most toxic person in the chat needs to use the scoreboard to justify themself
And you let them down, congrats on being a bad team mate, here's a meadal: 💩
and the sad part is
Plus no scoreboard helps with that, I only get to see my kills at the end of the mission and I’m okay with that 
That is what it looks like after you win, just so you know
since the community grew over 550% those ARE more than likely newer players
also, if it was so bad why'd you play through the whole game? lol
honestly, if you have 3 bad teammates you can tell in the first five minutes. just leave if it bugs you
new players sometimes need to learn my dude, lmao
If that’s how to win I don’t ever want a dub ever again
Hit tab in the middle of a match

Like I said, broski
I don’t have the mods
and damage can be farmed, Imma go ahead and assume you farmed the damage because no proof
You don't know how to argue, so you cannot refute my point.
Then you don't know what you are talking about
HUH?
He refuse to die
INSERT MORE LOUD ARGUMENT NOISES HERE
Huh? The tinyiest bit of plasteel grabbing is important?
Well duh but u were talkin kills right?
is there a damage cap or smth?
rounding, probably
not having something out of principle = knowing nothing about it apparently lol
sub 200 plasteel is kinda crazy, was mos def a lot more plasteel on that map
the damage numbers are rounded up
No, I think the game bug out or rounding problem
if you gunna carry do it right
CLOSE,KILL AND DO IT AGAIN
Bud thinks I can’t just use the info from OTHER people’s modded gameplay or soemthing 
VICTORY OR DEATH.
Just because my ass don’t wanna see my numbers doesn’t mean those numbers are ass
it seems like they have 301 health lol
Big fuckin assumption there bud
You can't read like him
Whats the argument
GET STUCK IN
NOT ONE STEP BACK
FOR CADIA!
Obviously
A lil bit of Xbox player hate by a auric sweat lowkey
FOR THE GOLDEN FRAGGING THRONE!
Bruh
BLOOD FOR THE EMPERORS. SKULL FOR THE THRONE
Continue playing Stealth vet or knife Zealot or whatever
Emprah.
no that's me
Scoreboard sweat thinks that looting is bad, gets owned in #veteran-class
I don’t have either of those built but sure keep assuming 
Good choice, your corpse starch processing date has been moved to tomorrow.
to children this is true
Because of this horrible crafting system
You guys have fun with the angry little man
Play whatever you want in auric damn, the game isn’t super hard that I need to gatekeep people
Need funny metal for robo grandma to piss me off with bad weapons
Thank u for kind words 
You fool, the endgame is actually getting high numbers on the scoreboard and posting it to #veteran-class
Sweats only play for their deflated self image, and they kinda don't like other people doing something that helps the team.
you can tell he has shit gear ngl
I play because its fun but also because im extremely plasteel deprived
😭
Gimme dat shit
Lol there we go, that game was a good meme
No no no you play because plasteel deprived
Cycled through 8 players in the lobby too because everyone left after a single down
True
has anyone looked into plasteel actually being some sort of quasi internet-reality opiod?
Well keep playing Auric Damnation that's where all the good players are they will carry you!
wtf how do u see that? 😛
Man are you 30 yet? Time to get carried!
Mods
I dont get carried in my auric damnation games
yup
Or maelstrom
I'll just look in Auric damnation then and get carried
Unironically if auric is 2x as hard the players are 4x as useful
I love how this was the most effective no u I've ever done.
Sounds way easier than damnation
If you mean the scoreboard, it's the Scoreboard mod on Nexusmods. If you mean the format, it's the Ovenproof plugin, also on Nexus
i should go farm some so yall can see how big my Numbers are
AND IM NOT TALKING DAMAGE
So effective they had to tune it out like u didn’t exist 
Bravo
That 1 death was sad times because I clutched for the 4th time after and died to a barrel since I was at low health without holy revenant lol
No elitist on keeping hadron bricking my gear
This guy named his dangly bits "Numbers"
smh
TRUE LOL
Based!
Okay what did u name yours then 
Letters
Some knife zealots are looting fiends
Run 1000m ahead and get downed but at least he picked up all the materials
The movement I’ve seen on some pub zealots would make a racing car feel jealous bro
yeah man, gotta impress ppl online
When I play knife zealot I try my best to go ultra-loot-fiend because I can't cleave enemies
That knife mobility don’t fuck around 
helps me feel important
You loot all you want buddy
I still have no idea who the scoreboard warrior is
They also don't mind losing the match because they get some materials out of it
The guy who just replied to u
The scoreboard warrior was inside us all along
like a chestburster
Also it’s not hard to play auric damnation nowadays
With all these broke ass weapon
Depends on experience
Just don’t get skill issue
But yea lot of overtuned weapons atm
if that zealot got everything and I got the rez in, they're a goat
well, not ALL, clearly not him
If you have a smite psyker on your team and a columnus V veteran, you may as well kick back and play with one hand
I have rough 80% win rate on Psyker/Zealot/Veteran
Or shall I say.. play with your numbers
You could literally not lose half the time
They way you speak sounds like Eric cartman
I asked the farmer what his winrate is, still no answer
Dude I’m literally a smite psyker because how abusive is smite
rite
ngl as long as a zealot picks up 300+ plasteel IDGAF, I'll lick them damn cheeks as im rezing em, what ever they want man
9 seconds with Warp Siphon cc
It's the magic number of whugivzafukk
If I have a smite psyker I leave them alone and go and do something interactive opposite of the direction they are smiting
My man, don’t take the game too seriously

you get me plasteel and you can git it
NO WHY YOY DO THIS
imagine looking at your winrate and not your funrate
KILL THE STUFF IN FRONT OF ME
thats pretty great lol
I remember a psyker saying that in VC when I did that lol
Vet chat is having another episode
How do you see your win rate?
Granted I think I was playing shieldgryn, the epitome of interactive gameplay™
mate it's a whole season in here
Best Grindset, playing games for fun.
Smite is fundamentally a badly designed ability
You do a manual counting over your scoreboard
It’s not that hard
Yeah if you mention the scoreboard then knife Zealot gets all mad in Vet chat
what, no, we live to feed the fatshark, if you can't that seriously what can you?
We're on the sequel by now.
He’s right to a certain extend
Smite for people too high or drunk but still want to win, working man's ability
Smite is not fun
I mean, you're kinda right. It trivializes the game a tad, which can be described as bad
But it’s super useful
Jokes on you, I don't play zealot!
"I'm going to disable VC I'm tired of people complaining that I'm bad" lol
60 penetration still good?
smite is bad in the same way VoC is bad change my mind
it removes any and all player interaction for the melee classes
like wee
I queued hard difficulty to hit afk mobs

I'm not talking about you, because you have said you are on xbox and don't play Damnation
lmao I literally play my surge/smite psyker at the beginning and ending of the day, when I can't be arsed to dodge crushers
bring plasma into quickplay, game gives me a dark map 😢
Plasma user

You know why
there's two characters I take when I CBA'd to play
Smite Psyker
and Shieldgryn
When I'm 14 drinks in after work I just go to shieldgryn so I can convince myself i'm still interacting with the game because I'm in melee
was iag user, just trying plasma for something new
He's talking about creatures like you m8. I'd rather go deaf than be with a bunch of blokes such as yourself.
just tag enemies and shoot on their general direction, you are bound to get like 10 pierce rager kills
you are doing MATH and its not for BREAKPOINTS?!?!?! HERESY!!!
while everything gets captain america'd to death without being able to hit back, just like smite
bonus points for having a ton of HP so even if I get hit I get tickled lol
All yap and no substance
And? That doesn't devalue my opinion.
like the pillsbury dough boy
my bad lemme post a scoreboard to raise my ego
brb
" No subscribe"🤣
GUYS I GOT THE BIGGER NUMBER
Look my man
That's how a conversation works mate
bro I'm dead this secondary convo has been wild
this man right here, he's the new king. worship him for he is mighty, worship him for his big Numbers
Pin this!
It's normal mode damnation though 👀
oh right that's the cutoff point
wait is there a difference between auric and normal damnation? if both are hi-intensity
Beeg namboors.
auric is locked behind lv30, and a bit wilder
Auric director have more credit to spawn specialist and elite
HISTG is like 200+ specialists per run generally
Damnation high intensity get credit in wave
Ladies and Gentlemen I rest my case. That's the one you save? Oh my goodness. Well time for a shower and breakfast THANK YOU
aaah okay. I always felt like they were the same
Auric Mael mission basically just mean Director get to spam shit at you every 5 seconds
There is no walking session in game
Can't unless i get carried for looking for plasteel
So you fight your way from objective to objective
Read it in Eric cartmans voice, I kid you not.
And they also spawn weird scatter elite
Gunner/Shotguner
I play auric damnation mael for the adrenaline rush
Especially because I play columnus and take sprint +5% base damage

actually saved it because the team did well, one guy was lagging and the other 2 were pulling weight
but i guess i should only use scoreboard to talk shit
👻 someone helping the team and not acting like a trollop about it👻
if you're not having a bad time, you're having a bad time
Why can't I get an investigation mission?
because there's only what, two of them?
Randomly generated missions.
It's my only mission I need, kinda crazy I've played like 30 missions but I've never seen one
let rng be kind on you
Opinion: Hab Dreyko is the best mission in the game because it shows you the people who know how to focus an objective while dealing with hordes
it's also fun as hell
That's a good one ngl
a well ran hab dreyko can be one of the fastest time completion in the game
Not sure I played it yet.
everything is fun except obscura den carnival, that map is way too long and more importantly, pops up wayyy too many times
the newer maps are still weighted I think
See, this is why you can't have opinions
🙂
jkjk
why pretend you shower
if I run into some good players on hab dreyko I friend them and see if they want to do harder stuff
gotten a lot of good teams out of it
I recommend trying to play with some lfg ppl, i friended a few of them
and playing over discord comms is just nice
first game in almost 2 weeks, getting killed by a spawn throwing me oob
good to be back
They have chaos spawns here!
You don’t need a good team except twins hardmode
It's going to be like heroic warcamp all over again!
twins hardmode is literally make or break, one false move can cost a LOT in that fight
did that with randoms
Me too
they were a good team
ngl made me realize ogryn is kinda busted
Yes
But that’s also because I spent 12 hours solo queue-ing as knife zealot
Running at the bombs

asked to just focus the pinged targets and we cleared it real quick
Ogryn was great because the nukes tbh
our savior
why'd it have to be a XII :ccccc
It’s a sign
I literally have a pile of 12s just sitting in my inventory
They bad?
anytime i get a 370 or see one being sold i gotta craft it
they're not what they once were, the Ia and IV are kinda just... better now
thus i have a perpetual 0 plasteel
It used to be the best veteran gun but now it's a bit too slow to handle the amount of enemies getting thrown at you in histg
not BAD, but the slower fire rate is definitely felt
Bruh I've been using that! It's so good!
Dam
you'll love the kark out of a Ia if you think 12 is good
Las gun just not that great because inverse damage fall off
I UPGRADED IT TO BLUE 15 MINUITES AGO!
its good, you can just do better?
isn't that only the recons?
Oh.
No every laser weapon have inverse damage fall off
ppl are still on the high it gave before getting diddled by fatshark
if you're not level 30 you should just save your plasteel
It’s dumbbbvb
But chain sword funni
never noticed tbh
I mean that’s because you need to get to like 15meter to use full dps
this will be me when Columnus gets touched in bad places later on
Which your normal engagement doesn’t take place over 15m
oh, that'll be why then lol
I use knife with lasrifles so my callsign to dive into melee is super early
well now I kind of have to craft it
69% 
I'd wait even after this, see what weapon you like and ask/search around to see if you want to craft it
Yes because it's great against gunnahs
🥹
The Lasgun is perfectly suited for a anti-gunner play style
bruh
If you ain’t using full lead bullet onto the heretics
Are you really a loyalist
Two shots on heavy gunners , 2 shots on shotgunners before they can react
Will you deny a guardsmen's most trusty weapon blessed by the mechanicus
huh?!
Yes because that mechanicus is hadron

BLESSED?!
Why?
ok real talk for a sec tho, I think the lasrifle tends to be more common among the Imperium's armies than solid rounds if only because they're (for the most part) rechargable
Yeah
if you want to get into the nitty gritty about what a guardman's best friend is
Like lasgun packs are rechargeable with the sun
He took 32k plasteel from me
hel throw em in a firepit
Like ahh
For Psword power cycled 4
hardon gave me this for christmas
sad part is
s'why I run me knife and me lasrifle
What?
Point and shoot, they are technically a laser so they have literally no recoil
i only rolled my P.sword 3 times to get mine
Yes
I make 20 power swoed
To get Power cycled IV blessings

Bruh
clearly just didn't pray hard enough

And ditch the weapon one week after using because it turn my brain off
that's still not a bad number
don't you dare question mommy hadron
i had to roll damn near 100 XIIIg greys just to get rampage 4
was malding the entire time
Yall oh my god
Splendid Varlet
I just bricked your weapon

FUUHGK NO!
Its not gonna burn a hole into your wallets
MELK IS A PIECE OF SHIT 80% of the time
THEN PERISH THEEE
i want power and i want it NOW
People grinding new account to access melk for blessings
Me wasting plasteel for Blessing instead

I have two vets just for melk lol
yeah they have different rolls
for melk
i dont do this tho
I CANT LIVE WITHOUT POWER CYCLER 4!!!!!!
i can't blame them
I'm blaming them
doing a new account every week for extra melk rolls? crazy
having an extra account for melk rolls? ok
it's actually a divergent blessing ngl
It legit changed the way i played with the sword
Like
Man I can see why vets review bombed darktide the first time psword got nerfed
Now wait till it gets nerfed again

Chainsword with shred 1 and 10% dam increase to carapace enemies, is that good?
eh it's in a pretty ok spot I feel
chainsword is horrid against carapace
well not horrid
it's not more powerful than weapons that can roll similar blessing combos
but im not buzzsawing a crusher
Its blessing taxed
Penetration 46%
I'd rather have it on flak tbh
Blessing is CBT
Especially on Psword
It’s a made or break blessing for specific weapon
I mean all yall forcing is a t4
its okay vs flak yeah
Which in theory has similar rarity to other t4 blessings
But for one weapon
Technically two
tbh go flak + maniac
they even made a perfectly usable T3 version
Because ps3 and ps6
Not got enough cubes to do it tho
i have 79% shredder even with carapace if i wanted, it still wouldnt feel nice for crushers
i made 556978569757895 powerswords for poopcycler5 now my pp no work 
Other weapon could function with/without blessing but Psword just hurt if you don’t have pcyler
Yeah but folks tend to focus on ps6
I'm gonna say it
Its coping
err, power cycler.
yeah MkIII is usable lol
get hardon to brick for you
😌
he fell for the power sword meme
Also grinding the perfect 380 and losing the weapon cuz fs isn’t fun imo
i think p3 is fine im not sure if it has the same kill potential tho?
Especially how grindy this game is
does it?
PS6 has better overall combos really
I have problems ik ;P
i think, but you can charge it while sprinting
i must cringesword.........
Ya there is an xbox player in chat look out!
Psword also turn my brain off so I stop using it
It is what it is
its the... only... melee.. weapon....... for... vet...

Absurdly op that make you stop playing melee dance
Reshaad Axe with BM and Headtaker will do more work than a power sword lol
The truth is not everyone is a casual
I Mean I see too many vets with a perfect psword fucking die
idk i love the XIIIg
Just skill issue things
You dont need to be a casual
just ignore
But you don't know cuz u were chasing the PS meme
HERESY
To realise that perfect 380's will actually not change the weapon that much, even for a rashad you're looking for all 70's in damage
Tou don't need 80
if a weapon has a stat you can actually pretty much ignore, doesn't really matter if it's 30% or 60%
watch out the small ppsword goon squad is going to take you out if you say such dangerous things
BIG
NUMBER
actually
BIGGEST NUMBER!
They can bwcause after a week of Psword, I suck in melee dance
need and want
Now I went back to Psyker to play DS 4 to get gud
The broke mentality is needing a 380, the woke mentality is realizing you just need to hit above 70 for most damage stats and minimum 61+ mobility

I take my 85 rated weapons into auric missions for funsies
behold my dragonslayer
oof, I actually shove using it, only been using it 1 day now tho but the shove int cleaves is nice
bro every time you dodge its gunna be like tripping over one of your feet
holy shit
I do have a 80 80 80 80 10 mobility vraks 7
can't dodge trappers or poxbursters with it lol
Me when I see a cat girl show up in my apartment uninvited
SEVER DEH 'EAD, THE BODI DIES
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
the ~bespoke~ mentality is needing a 380 coz i have perfect 375 - 379s in every single weapon already
You can dodge e'm?
yeah! why have a 379 when you can have 380?!
my gf thinks catgirls are cringe i might as well submit myself to hardon for upgrading (total brickening)
Take you schizophrenic pill my friend
There’s no GF
there is ONLY WAR
She’s an agent of slaneesh
side step nets, shove and dodge backwards for bursters
if there is one, it's a slaneeshi cultist trying to tempt you away from the god emperor. im telling the inquisitor!
except with 2% mobility
lol the backwards dodge doesn't move you out of the explosion range 
Does the chainswords rev make a difference if you do a charge attack?
Push into charge backwards, galaxy brain gameplay
Charged Attack with Rev does more damage in the instances
Which is why you want to charge attack -> Heavy attack with Heavy Evis (What I learn about Heavy Evis killing Crusher)
Someone didn't get their guns blessed by the omnisiah and it shows
<@&735928989146939404> kill this mf
Damn who did this
Bro why you including me in the screen shot
You're one of the target to be assassinated
:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

caught in the crossfire due to clerical error
Erased! Good job with the callout
bruh!
Noice
Fatshark doesnt ban confirmed
ty wardens
Oh my god
I saw that guy
Typical Imperium moment
What a small world
🎰
Skaven if it were on purpose
about the plasma, we can't vent all at once like psyker, but have to vent a few % at a time?
You can vent on reload
oy so someone fill me in on WH lore
Badab war be like
tf happened ot the skaven?
So if you really need to you can reload early to vent 100
head canon that skaven DO exist in 40k but we don't know because the imperium suppresses all knowledge of them
Skaven doesn’t exist in 40k
does bosses count as infested?
No, unyielding
my boiis got got wiped out?
I meeeann
whats the least shit perk 💀
Beastmen technically exist
Imperium is more of a skaven clan now tbh
So somewhere in this grim dark universe there are rats of unusual size
They throw human at every problem
Skittering about
Backstab each other
i dont think fantasy crosses over into 40k at all, and if it did then they got wiped out in the end times i guess
They are called tyranids.
i heard this comparison and i love it
Well naw yeah
Its
Tyranids don’t backstab each other
Or shoot each other in the back
As far as we know not in the same universe
Damn
But!
its not the same without a race of scheming, backstabbing ratmen that snort uranium that fuels their war machines 
Again there are beastmen in 40k
Also Imperium god EAT psyker everyday
best part of fantasy is skaven
Which skaven god does that too..
Who to say skaven don't exist in a hive world
Because funny
Believe
Its possible
Look imperium is literally skaven rn
Skaven arent the same as beastmen 😦
I don't care they're not rats
Name one characteristic except rat rat
imagine that fantasy is taking place on some war torn world forgotten by the imperium 
dont disrespect the tide like that
Because that hiveworld is probably burned then rebuilt again
Its goofy enough
Nope theyre not related
BRING BACK MY DRIPPY BONE LORDS!
If we want to get meme about it, the ad mech ai god could be worshipping a skaven in a hamster wheel
The imperium wiping out sigmarism with just a small force would be funny but sad to see.
Fuck I dunno
Powering the power on mars

The t'au aren't like the sigmarites! They are secretly communists while the sigmarites are Democrats.
Look
Work to promote the unity of the Empire, even at the cost of individual liberty

Took me some time to find the original reason why I find Tau and Sigmar is the same
this is why Sigmar is a chad and the Emperor is a-
Happy New Year fellow Vets
o
let's set off some fireworks at the vets (from darktide) home! To show how happy we are.
wait...
thats evil
talent tree might help?
So how do people feel about marksman focus now?
i don't like it
It's great and bad at the same time
i mean idk the special shot is underwelming, the fire one is bettter
but apparently it's good
you would've wanted Flak and Maniac, to help you splat heads of scab shooters and flamers and trappers
Here's the thing about MarksMan Focus, If you take a high rpm weapon like Columnus and aim at headlevel
You can turn the keystone into a fast moving circle of dead
but maybe the lawbringer is more up your alley if you're concerned about normal shell damage
which you could reload fast, and headshot with extra damage
Due to IAG being Finesse Weapons, it benefit from the keystone quite a lot
People tend to forgot that
I just dont like that you have to compete for kills to get the benefits, as well as not be dashing around like a maniac
the gun itself is bad bruv
the fire one is better
What different between hellbore 1 and 2?
you're supposed to be using the slug shell almost exclusively, but that's probably not what you want from a shotty
Charged Time and Damage
HellBore mk 1 does more damage with Higher Charged time
HellBore mk 2 does less damage with lower charged time
Okay mk1 balanced speed and mk2 is faster speed
Hard to remember
In later future
Krak Grenade My Love
Its okay
If you play exclusively to shoot down gunners
you tweaked the filesettings?
i need my game to look like that, so it might stop CRASHING
I dont think so
Is public game
If you have frame issue I recommend go launcher setting turn thread worker to 14 if your computer has 16 processor
Taking MarksMan Focus to shoot Gunner is dumb imo
im dumb and imma need you to baby the words you just slung at me
You don't get that much stack to initiate
Because you're using a low RPM gun like Vraks/HellBore
When you boot game is called launcher front screen instead click play, click setting setting under bar
Use Focus Target if you want to do that which is way betterrrr
btw when I use my plasma, sometime it shoot more than once with one click, but the 2nd shot doesn't show up. is this normal? 🤔
It show you launcher setting, scroll down there’s setting called worker thread basically higher thread means game work smoother and more flow. @torn root turn to 14 max it out make game run faster less stutter
I found shooting Mauler in the chest does more damage than in the head
it's so dumb

Marauder head is carapace
aaah tyty
Also, do anyone know the range of Krak and Shredder
I found krak have radius of 3 meter of knockback and shredder 6m but the effective range (damage) of Krak is like 1 meter while shredder 6 Meter +
You ever try ping the distance?
yup
I did use that
Flak vs Carapace
But Im trying to figure out why people use Shredder so much
shredder has the advantage of being down the branch with survivalist
Shredder go big boom
Bleed, Stagger, Add Clear
leaves a bunch of dudes dead or close to being dead so you can focus the tankier targets after a quick clean up
The bleed was roughly 8 meter with Shredder, pretty big, the knockback was 6 meter in radius
this too
You also carry 3 base
You get better cc that's why most people use it
While krak only 2
also 2 Shredder on different instances doesn't kill anything
so you need to double toss it on the same time?
Is useful stagger hound pinned someone when you got crowd blocked in your way
ngl it krak had the knock back radius increased i'd probably use it more
You use it to create space not to necessarily kill
doesnt even have to be damage i want the CC
Because people said that 2 shredder kill waves of Rager
tossing 2 shredders kills a whole hoard
Was thinking are they double stacking shredder
That seems wrong but I have no proof
because 2 seperate instances doesn't kill
it does
Sound like low difficulty can kill ragers easily
provided you hit them closer to the center
yeahy you need to throw them in succession
cuz DoTs stack nonlinearly
got it
you'll need 3 for flak ragers if you just want to kill them with only grenades
but 2 is still good enough to sufficiently soften them up
flak ragers die fast rnough with just one
Huh...
just toss it and clean them up
grenades have damage that scaled down with proximity
you have to toss it closer
no
But that's just how combat work in general isn't it
You're dodging backward against rager
you can time it
and the blow happen behind a certain distances not close to rager
usually when i see ragers coming i just under hand one nade
wait the do it again
or just use one and shoot which i recommend more
Also Shredder main damage is Bleed isn't it
yup
the explosion does a decent amount of damage
What is the Hellbore MK1 godroll ?
Mk1 doesn't need god roll
its literally the diff between getting the kill with 2 or not
Charged time, Damage, and Stopping power is good enough
That great an all
The explosion damage is super small radius, just use then for the bleed and kill the tough targets during the explosion staggers
But what are the best perks ?
the finess roll hurts it
And best blessings ?
It's not except you time the explosion and knockbackk together
the explosion does 500 damage (Maximum)
and the explosion radius is too small...
You'll pretty much always want unyielding and maniac unless your using the mk3 and using marksman focus for silly crusher 1 shots( im assuming helbors)
a 1 meter differences cause the damage to drop from 500 -> 100
Maniac/Unyielding is reliable setup, you will 1-headshot most flak elites without help
The CC is pretty good thou
i cant think of a reason why you wouldnt be hitting the 2 nade kill threshhold then tbh
in most cases you're gunna be able to do it lmao
and a good roll will 1 headshot dreg gunners with relevant talents on
how do i convince my teammates to walk slowly so i can keep my stacks
you dont
you become a buddhist monk and let go of worldy desires
your stacks will come and go like the tides of the sea
Can I reliably get gunner body onetaps ?
You take a real keystone
im not trying to be toxic but you just have to find a better way to keep it up
Hmmmm
With charged shots maybe
typically never expect randoms to cooperate
Bulwark doesn't get affected by Shredder if you toss infront of it?
not even bleed wat
no, the mk1 does not hit hard enough to do that, and it may need flak to 2-body shot. Best to strive for charged headshots
Don't I always charge with hellbores ?
@formal relic like, I'll just say I'm using it and it's great for trading shots to clear rooms full of gunners (cough)
assuming you meant Heavy gunners
I haven't played Hellbore in ages so I don't know
Can 1 shot headshot shooter with a good roll
yeah charged shots should be your default
a good roll will 1 bodyshot all common shooters
How you guys deal with bulwark if the explosion range is small with the shredder
longshot talent may be needed for dreg shooters
This is the one
and tossing into their sheidl doesn't do anything
It takes less than a second to get full stacks...just ignore em, it's extra damage.
they are normally running towards a direction....
toss it along the path
wait for bulwarks to drop their guard and shoot to stagger
they can walk past it....
and hope there isn't 10 bulwarks
uh...
I only use the stacks for 10% rending while at full stacks and 10% reload speed. I want to use it with my bolter
That
almost impossible to land headshots otehr than monstrosities
Is a choice
Certain weapons have a better time than others against bulwarks :V
Bolter doesn't feel good with marksman imo
It's bad with bolter.

Plasma time baby
Super soaker time
So just toss it up the air ?
Can yoou
what keystone works best with bolter ? I thought 10 rending and 10 reload speed were good options from a keystone
Under hand it
what no!
Behind them?
I just don't nade the bulwarks tbh
@solemn niche Use it with Columnis IAG.
underhand it dude lmao
Yeah I don't nade bulwacks
or toss it normal you get a bounce inficator
just throw it in front of them and they'll walk past it, or just melee the bulwark
Unless there's like a bunch
Middle tree probably, make sure to use exec stance to skip the insane pull out time of the bolter
Focus target always works imo
I mean Im asking how people use the shredder grenade against bulwark because Im expecting it to knock them down tbh
Explode grenade right behind them.
throw it as the bulwark comes to you, but leave enough space that the bulwark will walk on top of the granade
it knocks them down usually in my experience
oh no
none of that lmao
then i just go behind and hope i have enough time to gun them down
that only happens if the actual explosion radius hits them from behind
Currently thinking to save one point so I can take dodge +5% crit so Im expecting shredder to do atleast bulwark clearing
either get good and gauging the tosses or probably find another method lmao
eeeee that kinda suck
Just hope someone is running plasma, crusher, or voidstrike, or is a brogryn 🙂
you can also play bolter or plasmagun so you shoot the bulwarks through the shield
Bolter or Plasma
Yea nay
Hellbore, Columnus and funny Melee vet build only
Nothing feels worse than running a loadout that can't deal with certain things lol, don't know if its a spicy take
it's rough dealing with bulwark patrols but i don't find them to be that big of a problem most times
it's a risk i'm willing to take to go down the left branch
ppl need to just learn how to sidestep bulwarks lmao
shredder nades is basically anti horde/ragers/maulers, not really for bulwark or crushers
Is a common take imo, who wouldn’t feel bad for not dealing with every problem effectively
Or at least fun 
left side is always open, especially when they swing
can't sidestep 10 bulwarks though
Can't sidestep Bulwark +Crusher stack
my bad bait their attacks
Shredder can be okay vs crushers because upgraded shredders bleed pretty decently
that doesn't work when they're all together lol
they don't all attack at the same time so you dodge one and swing into another shield
you can bait bulwarks to open them up for grenades too
Grenade Tinkerer increase stacks?
I got Dclaw just parry
creativity wins

Just krak grenade and call it a day lol
Increases damage and radius iirc
this works too
Is it... bleed stacks too? I dunno
Im trying to build with 1 more point so I can take funny talent
But krak can’t soften/deal with hordes 
which is good nuff if you have a nice anti-armor to take advantage of it
Thats what the melee weapon is for lol
As much as I love stagger cycling bosses and one shotting big boys
But how will I shoot a sneaky specialist if I’m in front of the horde 
Shout
i usually do just spam nades, hope bulwarks get knocked down, and hope i kill enough to make the bulwark patrol less painful
if nades cant deal with something you have shout, melee, and guns
Huh valid
Always shout :V
i haven't had a wipe involving a bulwark patrol so far
My Wipe usually involve Bulwark + Crusher Stacks these days
i dont wipe on crushers anymore
Especially Nurgle Blessed Bulwark
Columnes takes care of them
The stack make your columnus can't shoot through
and they can perform overhead
which is extra cringe

its when the damned bulwarks make a damne phalanx and you get shot by shit behind them and no one can get the ranged enemies
Okay to be fair
again you can always shoot a crusher, ALWAYS, just gotta bait some attacks
Iirc shooters will shoot into the back of enemies
Heavy gunners can tend to shoot over hordes because they're slightly taller
Or are raised
yeah they do but there is always a few gunners poking through the holes, its happened a few times to me
The thing people fail to realize like making 20 crusher video about why crusher is not a threat
is the fact Crusher isn't the only thing that is actively killing you
just a shoutout, was a fun game
there's a sniper in the back
Which is fine
some grenadier just yeeting molotov all over the ground
Just dodge
you are talking about mr lindenberg

there's 3 specialist just spawn behind you
I mean the max stack I saw is 6 spawn
but it hurt hard when it's a wave coming in
specialist spam
and the floor is lava
kiting crushers is usually the least of your problems when there are crushers --- its everything else
the distractions
the hinderances
I dont know who's lindenberg
I would share but as a content creator i can't recommend any video they've made
me dodging but getting stopped dead because there's two poxwalkers about to take my toughness to 0: 
It's everything else on top of the crusher probably forcing your position to be bad. What am I gonna do? Just tell the crusher party to not advance on me?
not someone who deserves publicity with the current demeanor they have
the crusher behind them: 
Don't tell the crusher party, just shout at them and they will not advance for a few seconds 
gotta be loud enough and make your point clear
Oh and the trapper ready to cleave through the crusher party?
Yea this tbh, Crusher doing overhead -> Bulwark stack into blocking crusher shot -> Gunner taking potshot in the back -> Bomber making your entire floor lava and vice versa
we were just talking about the crushers, nothing about the netters :V
the FUCKING bombers
It's never just the crusher
it's a stack of everything that kill a run
some people just don't realize that enemies themselves aren't individually a problem (unless it's that one poxwalker blessed by nurgle) it's the amount
if you have problem with bulwark testudo formation you should try kark granade
Tbf the testudo formation is still bullshit even if nades can chew through it
4 trappers spawning from a single door
and the door is behind you, also they make no noise when they spawn
MMMmmmmm 380 base rating
They didn't end the run but we were horrified seeing what the director was trying to do

my bane the last few runs has honestly been basic shooters
Especially like some of the map layout that is fuckin dead trap
I had a hallway locked down by, I shit you not
bulwark in the front
a horde of ragers in armor
two crushers
and three gunners ripping it up in the back with their reaper buddy
was some wiiiiild strats on the heretics part
You left the elevalator
They spawn in fuckin bulwark + crusher
and a lesser monstrosity
But it feels like a waste using all that heat on the shooters
Voidstrike or Plasma would deal with that just fine, pew pew
I guess Im gonna dodge into a wall
skill issue
Uhhhhhhhhhhh
dodging is a state not a movement!
And my team are all gonna beeline for the elites & specials
real good players can dodge into a wall
imma beat the shit out of you
Its good
im jealous
Dump stat mobility too high, unuseable
personally i would go flakiac
Not saying I don't shoot them
I've seen almost full bleedouts of teammates because there were 2 bombers and we were stuck and couldn't get an angle on them and they staggered their throws on top of the downed teammate in fire
No it's good ehat you're doing
Just would rather delete the bulwark
I know what ya meean
mine has 80% mobility 60% shredder
i dont use the shred too often but damn it i wish it were higher
20 Dogs -> 20 Mutants -> Bulwark/Crusher/Mauler Stack -> wave
Just another day in the guard
because you step out the elevator
Thinking about redoing my skill tree from a VoC build to something else but not sure what to go for
Elevator in this game is such a fuckin dead trap
IN FIL TRATE
IN FIL TRATE
IN FIL TRATE!
Auric damn be hitting different
Exe helbore
And look at it this way, if it's 20 dogs that's free VOC
there's no other abilities besides infil and VoC you can't tell me otherwise lol
just move up to shout to buy space lol
jkjk they need to buff exe
Marksmens focus is fine

When you want to deal with gunners
They can bring back old exe and VoC probably would still be better lol
Rmeeber all those rooms that open up to a wide area and there's like 30 gunners
That's why we use marksmens focus
I refuse to wield a helbore
Helbores good and the emprah's gift
Infantry 1a then
that's why I throw a smoke grenade 