#veteran-class

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strange sparrow
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That’s how I out damage my team a lot

gusty grail
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The entire game was a hassle because my 3 teammates decided to try Auric Damnation to see if they can get carried

strange sparrow
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While not doing any boss damage

serene orbit
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lately when I see a weak link on my team I think of it as an extra challenge in the run

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why not when game is ez

strange sparrow
torn root
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scoreboarding in the chat to prove what

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lmao

gusty grail
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You don't play Damnation you have no idea what you are talking about

strange sparrow
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As long they don’t res me in fire

rain hatch
torn root
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i told you this shit is a plaguye

strange sparrow
inland orchid
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This why I don’t worry bout numbers too much, the zombies n regular scabs/dregs flood the numbers to where if I did want to care bout total kills it’d be washed away by anyone with good Add clear

serene orbit
torn root
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ofc the most toxic person in the chat needs to use the scoreboard to justify themself

dense belfry
torn root
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and the sad part is

inland orchid
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Plus no scoreboard helps with that, I only get to see my kills at the end of the mission and I’m okay with that Sitgryn

gusty grail
torn root
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since the community grew over 550% those ARE more than likely newer players

cerulean void
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also, if it was so bad why'd you play through the whole game? lol

serene orbit
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honestly, if you have 3 bad teammates you can tell in the first five minutes. just leave if it bugs you

torn root
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new players sometimes need to learn my dude, lmao

inland orchid
gusty grail
inland orchid
inland orchid
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I don’t have the mods

torn root
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and damage can be farmed, Imma go ahead and assume you farmed the damage because no proof

dense belfry
gusty grail
dusty sluice
strange sparrow
serene orbit
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INSERT MORE LOUD ARGUMENT NOISES HERE

inland orchid
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Huh? The tinyiest bit of plasteel grabbing is important?

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Well duh but u were talkin kills right?

dusty sluice
white minnow
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rounding, probably

cerulean void
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not having something out of principle = knowing nothing about it apparently lol

torn root
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sub 200 plasteel is kinda crazy, was mos def a lot more plasteel on that map

white minnow
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the damage numbers are rounded up

strange sparrow
torn root
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if you gunna carry do it right

wet elk
inland orchid
strange sparrow
inland orchid
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Just because my ass don’t wanna see my numbers doesn’t mean those numbers are ass

dusty sluice
inland orchid
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Big fuckin assumption there bud

lofty lintel
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Whats the argument

shadow aurora
wet elk
dense belfry
rain hatch
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Obviously

inland orchid
cerulean void
strange sparrow
gusty grail
serene orbit
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Life or death decision

lofty lintel
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Emprah.

cerulean void
dense belfry
inland orchid
serene orbit
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Good choice, your corpse starch processing date has been moved to tomorrow.

lofty lintel
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Why would looting be bad

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Looting is quite literally the endgame

lofty lintel
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Because of this horrible crafting system

rain hatch
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You guys have fun with the angry little man

strange sparrow
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Play whatever you want in auric damn, the game isn’t super hard that I need to gatekeep people

shadow aurora
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Need funny metal for robo grandma to piss me off with bad weapons

serene orbit
dense belfry
torn root
lofty lintel
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I play because its fun but also because im extremely plasteel deprived

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😭

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Gimme dat shit

low lava
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Lol there we go, that game was a good meme

strange sparrow
low lava
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Cycled through 8 players in the lobby too because everyone left after a single down

lofty lintel
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True

serene orbit
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has anyone looked into plasteel actually being some sort of quasi internet-reality opiod?

gusty grail
eternal rover
gusty grail
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Man are you 30 yet? Time to get carried!

inland orchid
lofty lintel
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I dont get carried in my auric damnation games

lofty lintel
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Or maelstrom

rain hatch
shadow aurora
dense belfry
rain hatch
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Sounds way easier than damnation

serene orbit
torn root
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i should go farm some so yall can see how big my Numbers are

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AND IM NOT TALKING DAMAGE

inland orchid
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Bravo

strange sparrow
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I always welcome plasteel knife farmer

low lava
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That 1 death was sad times because I clutched for the 4th time after and died to a barrel since I was at low health without holy revenant lol

strange sparrow
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No elitist on keeping hadron bricking my gear

serene orbit
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smh

lofty lintel
dense belfry
inland orchid
serene orbit
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Letters

lofty lintel
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Some knife zealots are looting fiends

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Run 1000m ahead and get downed but at least he picked up all the materials

inland orchid
torn root
serene orbit
inland orchid
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That knife mobility don’t fuck around KEKW_ogryn

serene orbit
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helps me feel important

strange sparrow
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You loot all you want buddy

lofty lintel
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I still have no idea who the scoreboard warrior is

gusty grail
inland orchid
serene orbit
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like a chestburster

strange sparrow
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Also it’s not hard to play auric damnation nowadays

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With all these broke ass weapon

lofty lintel
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Depends on experience

strange sparrow
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Just don’t get skill issue

lofty lintel
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But yea lot of overtuned weapons atm

cerulean void
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if that zealot got everything and I got the rez in, they're a goat

torn root
serene orbit
strange sparrow
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I have rough 80% win rate on Psyker/Zealot/Veteran

serene orbit
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Or shall I say.. play with your numbers

strange sparrow
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You could literally not lose half the time

dense belfry
gusty grail
strange sparrow
serene orbit
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rite

torn root
strange sparrow
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9 seconds with Warp Siphon cc

dense belfry
delicate estuary
strange sparrow
delicate estuary
torn root
cerulean void
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imagine looking at your winrate and not your funrate

torn root
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NEW YEAR

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NEW ME!

strange sparrow
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KILL THE STUFF IN FRONT OF ME

low lava
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thats pretty great lol

strange sparrow
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PIECE OF SHIT

low lava
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I remember a psyker saying that in VC when I did that lol

shadow aurora
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Vet chat is having another episodeKEKW_ogryn

formal relic
low lava
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Granted I think I was playing shieldgryn, the epitome of interactive gameplay™

cerulean void
dense belfry
delicate estuary
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Smite is fundamentally a badly designed ability

strange sparrow
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It’s not that hard

gusty grail
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Yeah if you mention the scoreboard then knife Zealot gets all mad in Vet chat

torn root
dense belfry
strange sparrow
low lava
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Smite for people too high or drunk but still want to win, working man's ability

strange sparrow
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Smite is not fun

serene orbit
strange sparrow
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But it’s super useful

dense belfry
gusty grail
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"I'm going to disable VC I'm tired of people complaining that I'm bad" lol

wet elk
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60 penetration still good?

cerulean void
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smite is bad in the same way VoC is bad change my mind

delicate estuary
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like wee

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I queued hard difficulty to hit afk mobs

gusty grail
serene orbit
pearl granite
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bring plasma into quickplay, game gives me a dark map 😢

strange sparrow
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You know why

cerulean void
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there's two characters I take when I CBA'd to play

Smite Psyker
and Shieldgryn

low lava
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When I'm 14 drinks in after work I just go to shieldgryn so I can convince myself i'm still interacting with the game because I'm in melee

pearl granite
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was iag user, just trying plasma for something new

dense belfry
wet elk
torn root
low lava
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while everything gets captain america'd to death without being able to hit back, just like smite

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bonus points for having a ton of HP so even if I get hit I get tickled lol

dense belfry
cerulean void
torn root
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brb

dense belfry
torn root
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GUYS I GOT THE BIGGER NUMBER

strange sparrow
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Look my man

dense belfry
cerulean void
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bro I'm dead this secondary convo has been wild

strange sparrow
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If you can’t solo carry with veteran

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I don’t know what class could rn

serene orbit
gusty grail
dense belfry
low lava
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It's normal mode damnation though 👀

cerulean void
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oh right that's the cutoff point

serene orbit
quasi jetty
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Beeg namboors.

low lava
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you can tell by specials spawned lol

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specials/elites

cerulean void
strange sparrow
low lava
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HISTG is like 200+ specialists per run generally

strange sparrow
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Damnation high intensity get credit in wave

gusty grail
serene orbit
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aaah okay. I always felt like they were the same

strange sparrow
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Auric Mael mission basically just mean Director get to spam shit at you every 5 seconds

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There is no walking session in game

torn root
strange sparrow
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So you fight your way from objective to objective

dense belfry
strange sparrow
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And they also spawn weird scatter elite

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Gunner/Shotguner

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I play auric damnation mael for the adrenaline rush

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Especially because I play columnus and take sprint +5% base damage

torn root
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but i guess i should only use scoreboard to talk shit

dense belfry
cerulean void
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if you're not having a bad time, you're having a bad time

unique anvil
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Why can't I get an investigation mission?

cerulean void
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because there's only what, two of them?

dense belfry
unique anvil
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It's my only mission I need, kinda crazy I've played like 30 missions but I've never seen one

torn root
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let rng be kind on you

cerulean void
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Opinion: Hab Dreyko is the best mission in the game because it shows you the people who know how to focus an objective while dealing with hordes

cerulean void
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a well ran hab dreyko can be one of the fastest time completion in the game

barren cave
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everything is fun except obscura den carnival, that map is way too long and more importantly, pops up wayyy too many times

cerulean void
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the newer maps are still weighted I think

torn root
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🙂

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jkjk

cerulean void
# torn root That's a good one ngl

if I run into some good players on hab dreyko I friend them and see if they want to do harder stuff

gotten a lot of good teams out of it

torn root
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and playing over discord comms is just nice

wanton dawn
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first game in almost 2 weeks, getting killed by a spawn throwing me oob

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good to be back

dense belfry
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They have chaos spawns here!

strange sparrow
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You don’t need a good team except twins hardmode

dense belfry
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It's going to be like heroic warcamp all over again!

cerulean void
torn root
strange sparrow
cerulean void
torn root
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ngl made me realize ogryn is kinda busted

torn root
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they were

dense belfry
strange sparrow
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But that’s also because I spent 12 hours solo queue-ing as knife zealot

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Running at the bombs

torn root
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asked to just focus the pinged targets and we cleared it real quick

strange sparrow
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Ogryn was great because the nukes tbh

torn root
cerulean void
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why'd it have to be a XII :ccccc

strange sparrow
torn root
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imma be honest

cerulean void
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I literally have a pile of 12s just sitting in my inventory

dense belfry
torn root
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anytime i get a 370 or see one being sold i gotta craft it

cerulean void
torn root
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thus i have a perpetual 0 plasteel

formal relic
# dense belfry They bad?

It used to be the best veteran gun but now it's a bit too slow to handle the amount of enemies getting thrown at you in histg

cerulean void
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not BAD, but the slower fire rate is definitely felt

dense belfry
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Dam

cerulean void
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you'll love the kark out of a Ia if you think 12 is good

strange sparrow
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Las gun just not that great because inverse damage fall off

dense belfry
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I UPGRADED IT TO BLUE 15 MINUITES AGO!

torn root
cerulean void
dense belfry
strange sparrow
torn root
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ppl are still on the high it gave before getting diddled by fatshark

formal relic
strange sparrow
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It’s dumbbbvb

dense belfry
cerulean void
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never noticed tbh

strange sparrow
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I mean that’s because you need to get to like 15meter to use full dps

torn root
strange sparrow
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Which your normal engagement doesn’t take place over 15m

cerulean void
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I use knife with lasrifles so my callsign to dive into melee is super early

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well now I kind of have to craft it

strange sparrow
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69% thumbsup_ogryn

torn root
terse idol
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🥹

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The Lasgun is perfectly suited for a anti-gunner play style

torn root
strange sparrow
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Are you really a loyalist

terse idol
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Two shots on heavy gunners , 2 shots on shotgunners before they can react

terse idol
strange sparrow
terse idol
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Heresey

strange sparrow
torn root
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BLESSED?!

strange sparrow
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Reject hadron

terse idol
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😌

torn root
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im going to hell

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i just read that in Mike Tyson's voice

dense belfry
cerulean void
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ok real talk for a sec tho, I think the lasrifle tends to be more common among the Imperium's armies than solid rounds if only because they're (for the most part) rechargable

terse idol
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Yeah

cerulean void
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if you want to get into the nitty gritty about what a guardman's best friend is

terse idol
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Like lasgun packs are rechargeable with the sun

strange sparrow
cerulean void
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hel throw em in a firepit

terse idol
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Like ahh

strange sparrow
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For Psword power cycled 4

slate sleet
terse idol
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If we want to get into the nitty gritty of the lore

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Lasguns are a staple

torn root
cerulean void
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s'why I run me knife and me lasrifle

dense belfry
terse idol
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Point and shoot, they are technically a laser so they have literally no recoil

torn root
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i only rolled my P.sword 3 times to get mine

strange sparrow
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I make 20 power swoed

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To get Power cycled IV blessings

terse idol
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Bruh

formal relic
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clearly just didn't pray hard enough

dense belfry
strange sparrow
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And ditch the weapon one week after using because it turn my brain off

torn root
formal relic
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don't you dare question mommy hadron

strange sparrow
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Now I use DC4 or a chainsword

torn root
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i had to roll damn near 100 XIIIg greys just to get rampage 4

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was malding the entire time

terse idol
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Yall oh my god

strange sparrow
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I just bricked your weapon

terse idol
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Don't do that 🥹

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Just wait for it in milks

torn root
terse idol
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Its not gonna burn a hole into your wallets

torn root
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MELK IS A PIECE OF SHIT 80% of the time

terse idol
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THEN PERISH THEEE

torn root
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i want power and i want it NOW

strange sparrow
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People grinding new account to access melk for blessings

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Me wasting plasteel for Blessing instead

cerulean void
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I have two vets just for melk lol

terse idol
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Grinding a new account?

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That's crazy

torn root
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for melk

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i dont do this tho

terse idol
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Yeah I think people are just

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Crazy

torn root
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nah man its fair

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because fatshark has a shitty grinding system

terse idol
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I CANT LIVE WITHOUT POWER CYCLER 4!!!!!!

torn root
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i can't blame them

terse idol
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I'm blaming them

cerulean void
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doing a new account every week for extra melk rolls? crazy
having an extra account for melk rolls? ok

torn root
terse idol
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It aint worth an extra 70 dollars

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Cad

torn root
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It legit changed the way i played with the sword

terse idol
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Like

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Man I can see why vets review bombed darktide the first time psword got nerfed

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Now wait till it gets nerfed again

dense belfry
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Chainsword with shred 1 and 10% dam increase to carapace enemies, is that good?

cerulean void
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eh it's in a pretty ok spot I feel

torn root
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well not horrid

cerulean void
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it's not more powerful than weapons that can roll similar blessing combos

torn root
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but im not buzzsawing a crusher

terse idol
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Its blessing taxed

dense belfry
terse idol
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So problematically it falls into a similar power to rashad axe

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By rolls

dense belfry
strange sparrow
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Blessing is CBT

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Especially on Psword

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It’s a made or break blessing for specific weapon

terse idol
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I mean all yall forcing is a t4

torn root
terse idol
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Which in theory has similar rarity to other t4 blessings

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But for one weapon

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Technically two

torn root
cerulean void
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they even made a perfectly usable T3 version

terse idol
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Because ps3 and ps6

dense belfry
torn root
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i have 79% shredder even with carapace if i wanted, it still wouldnt feel nice for crushers

slate sleet
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i made 556978569757895 powerswords for poopcycler5 now my pp no work gangster

strange sparrow
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Other weapon could function with/without blessing but Psword just hurt if you don’t have pcyler

terse idol
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I'm gonna say it

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Its coping

cerulean void
terse idol
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😌

gusty grail
cerulean void
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he's back!

strange sparrow
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Also grinding the perfect 380 and losing the weapon cuz fs isn’t fun imo

torn root
strange sparrow
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Especially how grindy this game is

torn root
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does it?

terse idol
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I thought it was the charge problem

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Slightly slower than ps6

cerulean void
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PS6 has better overall combos really

cerulean void
torn root
slate sleet
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i must cringesword.........

gusty grail
strange sparrow
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Psword also turn my brain off so I stop using it

slate sleet
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its the... only... melee.. weapon....... for... vet...

strange sparrow
dense belfry
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He returned

strange sparrow
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Absurdly op that make you stop playing melee dance

terse idol
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because the truth is you don't need a perfect 380

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🥹

gusty grail
strange sparrow
terse idol
torn root
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idk i love the XIIIg

terse idol
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Just skill issue things

terse idol
torn root
strange sparrow
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Psword make you worse in the game unironically

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Because you forgot how to push

gusty grail
terse idol
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To realise that perfect 380's will actually not change the weapon that much, even for a rashad you're looking for all 70's in damage

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Tou don't need 80

cerulean void
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if a weapon has a stat you can actually pretty much ignore, doesn't really matter if it's 30% or 60%

slate sleet
torn root
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NUMBER

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actually

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BIGGEST NUMBER!

strange sparrow
torn root
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need and want

strange sparrow
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Now I went back to Psyker to play DS 4 to get gud

terse idol
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The broke mentality is needing a 380, the woke mentality is realizing you just need to hit above 70 for most damage stats and minimum 61+ mobility

strange sparrow
cerulean void
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I take my 85 rated weapons into auric missions for funsies

low lava
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Nah its fine fam

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mobility is overrated

low lava
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behold my dragonslayer

torn root
terse idol
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You got a great sword

torn root
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holy shit

terse idol
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I do have a 80 80 80 80 10 mobility vraks 7

low lava
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can't dodge trappers or poxbursters with it lol

strange sparrow
terse idol
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SEVER DEH 'EAD, THE BODI DIES

strange sparrow
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WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

hybrid token
dense belfry
torn root
slate sleet
strange sparrow
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There’s no GF

hybrid token
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there is ONLY WAR

strange sparrow
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She’s an agent of slaneesh

torn root
sage agate
torn root
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except with 2% mobility

low lava
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lol the backwards dodge doesn't move you out of the explosion range KEKW_ogryn

dense belfry
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Does the chainswords rev make a difference if you do a charge attack?

torn root
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oh my

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i just made a bad comment apparently

low lava
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Push into charge backwards, galaxy brain gameplay

strange sparrow
torn root
strange sparrow
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Which is why you want to charge attack -> Heavy attack with Heavy Evis (What I learn about Heavy Evis killing Crusher)

sage agate
terse idol
sage agate
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<@&735928989146939404> kill this mf

low lava
low lava
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Damn who did this

terse idol
strange sparrow
wet elk
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:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

terse idol
sage agate
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caught in the crossfire due to clerical error

dense belfry
torn root
terse idol
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Noice

low lava
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Fatshark doesnt ban confirmed

sage agate
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ty wardens

terse idol
terse idol
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I saw that guy

strange sparrow
terse idol
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What a small world

slate sleet
strange sparrow
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You forgot about the tax - Planet A

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Imma nuke PLANET B RN

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oh.

dense belfry
pearl granite
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about the plasma, we can't vent all at once like psyker, but have to vent a few % at a time?

terse idol
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You can vent on reload

torn root
strange sparrow
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Badab war be like

torn root
terse idol
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So if you really need to you can reload early to vent 100

sage agate
strange sparrow
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Skaven doesn’t exist in 40k

wet elk
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does bosses count as infested?

strange sparrow
torn root
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my boiis got got wiped out?

terse idol
wet elk
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whats the least shit perk 💀

terse idol
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Beastmen technically exist

strange sparrow
terse idol
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So somewhere in this grim dark universe there are rats of unusual size

strange sparrow
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They throw human at every problem

terse idol
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Skittering about

strange sparrow
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Backstab each other

sage agate
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i dont think fantasy crosses over into 40k at all, and if it did then they got wiped out in the end times i guess

dense belfry
sage agate
strange sparrow
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Or shoot each other in the back

terse idol
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As far as we know not in the same universe

dense belfry
terse idol
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But!

sage agate
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its not the same without a race of scheming, backstabbing ratmen that snort uranium that fuels their war machines Sitgryn

terse idol
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Again there are beastmen in 40k

strange sparrow
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Also Imperium god EAT psyker everyday

sage agate
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best part of fantasy is skaven

strange sparrow
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Which skaven god does that too..

terse idol
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Who to say skaven don't exist in a hive world

strange sparrow
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Because funny

strange sparrow
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Look imperium is literally skaven rn

torn root
terse idol
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I don't care they're not rats

strange sparrow
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Name one characteristic except rat rat

sage agate
terse idol
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Just add skaven

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Its 40k

torn root
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dont disrespect the tide like that

dense belfry
terse idol
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Its goofy enough

terse idol
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There are literally lizard people in 40k

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They may as well be lizardmen

torn root
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BRING BACK MY DRIPPY BONE LORDS!

terse idol
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If we want to get meme about it, the ad mech ai god could be worshipping a skaven in a hamster wheel

dense belfry
terse idol
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Fuck I dunno

strange sparrow
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I mean

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Sigmarism feel a lot like Tau

terse idol
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Powering the power on mars

strange sparrow
dense belfry
strange sparrow
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Look

strange sparrow
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Took me some time to find the original reason why I find Tau and Sigmar is the same

cerulean void
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this is why Sigmar is a chad and the Emperor is a-

balmy flume
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Happy New Year fellow Vets

torn root
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13hrs left for me

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Happy New Years

dense belfry
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wait...

torn root
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thats evil

strange sparrow
wet elk
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cant onetap shit

torn root
formal relic
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So how do people feel about marksman focus now?

torn root
strange sparrow
wet elk
torn root
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but apparently it's good

sharp ember
strange sparrow
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Here's the thing about MarksMan Focus, If you take a high rpm weapon like Columnus and aim at headlevel

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You can turn the keystone into a fast moving circle of dead

sharp ember
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but maybe the lawbringer is more up your alley if you're concerned about normal shell damage

strange sparrow
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which you could reload fast, and headshot with extra damage

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Due to IAG being Finesse Weapons, it benefit from the keystone quite a lot

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People tend to forgot that

torn root
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I just dont like that you have to compete for kills to get the benefits, as well as not be dashing around like a maniac

wet elk
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the fire one is better

frank basin
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What different between hellbore 1 and 2?

sharp ember
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you're supposed to be using the slug shell almost exclusively, but that's probably not what you want from a shotty

strange sparrow
frank basin
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Hard to remember

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In later future

strange sparrow
terse idol
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If you play exclusively to shoot down gunners

torn root
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i need my game to look like that, so it might stop CRASHING

strange sparrow
frank basin
frank basin
strange sparrow
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Taking MarksMan Focus to shoot Gunner is dumb imo

torn root
strange sparrow
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You don't get that much stack to initiate

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Because you're using a low RPM gun like Vraks/HellBore

frank basin
strange sparrow
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Use Focus Target if you want to do that which is way betterrrr

pearl granite
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btw when I use my plasma, sometime it shoot more than once with one click, but the 2nd shot doesn't show up. is this normal? 🤔

frank basin
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It show you launcher setting, scroll down there’s setting called worker thread basically higher thread means game work smoother and more flow. @torn root turn to 14 max it out make game run faster less stutter

strange sparrow
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I found shooting Mauler in the chest does more damage than in the head

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it's so dumb

frank basin
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Marauder head is carapace

strange sparrow
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Yea exactly

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That's why it's dumb

strange sparrow
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Also, do anyone know the range of Krak and Shredder

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I found krak have radius of 3 meter of knockback and shredder 6m but the effective range (damage) of Krak is like 1 meter while shredder 6 Meter +

frank basin
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You ever try ping the distance?

strange sparrow
torn root
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Flak vs Carapace

strange sparrow
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But Im trying to figure out why people use Shredder so much

frank basin
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Bleed damage and staggers

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Cc use

white minnow
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shredder has the advantage of being down the branch with survivalist

frank basin
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Shredder go big boom

torn root
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Bleed, Stagger, Add Clear

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leaves a bunch of dudes dead or close to being dead so you can focus the tankier targets after a quick clean up

strange sparrow
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The bleed was roughly 8 meter with Shredder, pretty big, the knockback was 6 meter in radius

frank basin
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You also carry 3 base

muted knot
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You get better cc that's why most people use it

frank basin
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While krak only 2

strange sparrow
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also 2 Shredder on different instances doesn't kill anything

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so you need to double toss it on the same time?

frank basin
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Is useful stagger hound pinned someone when you got crowd blocked in your way

torn root
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ngl it krak had the knock back radius increased i'd probably use it more

muted knot
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You use it to create space not to necessarily kill

torn root
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doesnt even have to be damage i want the CC

strange sparrow
torn root
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tossing 2 shredders kills a whole hoard

strange sparrow
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Was thinking are they double stacking shredder

muted knot
strange sparrow
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because 2 seperate instances doesn't kill

frank basin
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Sound like low difficulty can kill ragers easily

torn root
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provided you hit them closer to the center

white minnow
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cuz DoTs stack nonlinearly

strange sparrow
#

Here

strange sparrow
white minnow
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you'll need 3 for flak ragers if you just want to kill them with only grenades

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but 2 is still good enough to sufficiently soften them up

torn root
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flak ragers die fast rnough with just one

strange sparrow
torn root
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just toss it and clean them up

torn root
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you have to toss it closer

frail pond
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is this power worth investment stat wise?

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*power sword

lofty lintel
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no

strange sparrow
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You're dodging backward against rager

torn root
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you can time it

strange sparrow
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and the blow happen behind a certain distances not close to rager

torn root
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usually when i see ragers coming i just under hand one nade

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wait the do it again

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or just use one and shoot which i recommend more

strange sparrow
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Also Shredder main damage is Bleed isn't it

wanton dawn
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yup

torn root
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the explosion does a decent amount of damage

muted knot
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What is the Hellbore MK1 godroll ?

strange sparrow
torn root
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its literally the diff between getting the kill with 2 or not

strange sparrow
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Charged time, Damage, and Stopping power is good enough

muted knot
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That great an all

crude fiber
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The explosion damage is super small radius, just use then for the bleed and kill the tough targets during the explosion staggers

muted knot
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But what are the best perks ?

torn root
muted knot
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And best blessings ?

strange sparrow
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Onslaught and Surgical is the best blessings on Mk1

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Perks im not sure

muted knot
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Oh then I'm cooking

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Surgical 3 onslaught 4 on mine

strange sparrow
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the explosion does 500 damage (Maximum)

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and the explosion radius is too small...

crude fiber
strange sparrow
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a 1 meter differences cause the damage to drop from 500 -> 100

sharp ember
strange sparrow
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The CC is pretty good thou

torn root
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i cant think of a reason why you wouldnt be hitting the 2 nade kill threshhold then tbh

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in most cases you're gunna be able to do it lmao

sharp ember
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and a good roll will 1 headshot dreg gunners with relevant talents on

solemn niche
#

how do i convince my teammates to walk slowly so i can keep my stacks

sharp ember
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you become a buddhist monk and let go of worldy desires

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your stacks will come and go like the tides of the sea

muted knot
muted knot
torn root
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im not trying to be toxic but you just have to find a better way to keep it up

strange sparrow
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Hmmmm

crude fiber
torn root
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typically never expect randoms to cooperate

strange sparrow
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Bulwark doesn't get affected by Shredder if you toss infront of it?

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not even bleed wat

sharp ember
muted knot
terse idol
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@formal relic like, I'll just say I'm using it and it's great for trading shots to clear rooms full of gunners (cough)

sharp ember
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assuming you meant Heavy gunners

muted knot
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I haven't played Hellbore in ages so I don't know

terse idol
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That other talents don't let you

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Marksmens focus that is

crude fiber
muted knot
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My roll is pretty sick tbh

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Let me find it

sharp ember
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yeah charged shots should be your default

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a good roll will 1 bodyshot all common shooters

strange sparrow
sharp ember
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longshot talent may be needed for dreg shooters

muted knot
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This is the one

strange sparrow
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and tossing into their sheidl doesn't do anything

burnt onyx
torn root
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toss it along the path

white minnow
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wait for bulwarks to drop their guard and shoot to stagger

torn root
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they can walk past it....

white minnow
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and hope there isn't 10 bulwarks

terse idol
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I let them attack me because I have a dclaw

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And then kill them

strange sparrow
#

uh...

solemn niche
muted knot
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That

solemn niche
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almost impossible to land headshots otehr than monstrosities

muted knot
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Is a choice

low lava
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Certain weapons have a better time than others against bulwarks :V

terse idol
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Also uhhm

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Just throw the grenade behind the crusher

crude fiber
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Bolter doesn't feel good with marksman imo

terse idol
low lava
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Super soaker time

strange sparrow
terse idol
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Can yoou

solemn niche
terse idol
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Under hand it

torn root
terse idol
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Behind them?

muted knot
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I just don't nade the bulwarks tbh

burnt onyx
#

@solemn niche Use it with Columnis IAG.

torn root
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underhand it dude lmao

terse idol
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Yeah I don't nade bulwacks

torn root
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or toss it normal you get a bounce inficator

sharp ember
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just throw it in front of them and they'll walk past it, or just melee the bulwark

terse idol
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Unless there's like a bunch

muted knot
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Focus target always works imo

strange sparrow
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I mean Im asking how people use the shredder grenade against bulwark because Im expecting it to knock them down tbh

burnt onyx
solemn niche
white minnow
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it knocks them down usually in my experience

white minnow
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then i just go behind and hope i have enough time to gun them down

torn root
strange sparrow
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Currently thinking to save one point so I can take dodge +5% crit so Im expecting shredder to do atleast bulwark clearing

torn root
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either get good and gauging the tosses or probably find another method lmao

strange sparrow
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eeeee that kinda suck

low lava
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Just hope someone is running plasma, crusher, or voidstrike, or is a brogryn 🙂

solemn niche
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you can also play bolter or plasmagun so you shoot the bulwarks through the shield

strange sparrow
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Yea nay

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Hellbore, Columnus and funny Melee vet build only

low lava
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Nothing feels worse than running a loadout that can't deal with certain things lol, don't know if its a spicy take

white minnow
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it's rough dealing with bulwark patrols but i don't find them to be that big of a problem most times

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it's a risk i'm willing to take to go down the left branch

torn root
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ppl need to just learn how to sidestep bulwarks lmao

low lava
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shredder nades is basically anti horde/ragers/maulers, not really for bulwark or crushers

inland orchid
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Or at least fun KEKW_ogryn

torn root
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left side is always open, especially when they swing

low lava
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can't sidestep 10 bulwarks though

torn root
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dodge swing, gun them down

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or melee the head

strange sparrow
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Can't sidestep Bulwark +Crusher stack

torn root
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my bad bait their attacks

terse idol
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Shredder can be okay vs crushers because upgraded shredders bleed pretty decently

low lava
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that doesn't work when they're all together lol

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they don't all attack at the same time so you dodge one and swing into another shield

torn root
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you can bait bulwarks to open them up for grenades too

strange sparrow
terse idol
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I got Dclaw just parry

torn root
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creativity wins

terse idol
#

Uhhhhhhhhhh

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Forgor

strange sparrow
low lava
#

Just krak grenade and call it a day lol

terse idol
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Increases damage and radius iirc

torn root
terse idol
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Is it... bleed stacks too? I dunno

strange sparrow
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Im trying to build with 1 more point so I can take funny talent

white minnow
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i don't think it increases bleed

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but the shredder frags still do stagger crushers

inland orchid
white minnow
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which is good nuff if you have a nice anti-armor to take advantage of it

low lava
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Thats what the melee weapon is for lol

inland orchid
#

As much as I love stagger cycling bosses and one shotting big boys

inland orchid
torn root
#

i mean just take weapons with coverage

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lmao

low lava
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Shout

white minnow
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i usually do just spam nades, hope bulwarks get knocked down, and hope i kill enough to make the bulwark patrol less painful

torn root
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if nades cant deal with something you have shout, melee, and guns

inland orchid
low lava
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Always shout :V

white minnow
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i haven't had a wipe involving a bulwark patrol so far

strange sparrow
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My Wipe usually involve Bulwark + Crusher Stacks these days

torn root
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i dont wipe on crushers anymore

strange sparrow
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Especially Nurgle Blessed Bulwark

torn root
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Columnes takes care of them

strange sparrow
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and they can perform overhead

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which is extra cringe

torn root
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its when the damned bulwarks make a damne phalanx and you get shot by shit behind them and no one can get the ranged enemies

torn root
terse idol
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Iirc shooters will shoot into the back of enemies

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Heavy gunners can tend to shoot over hordes because they're slightly taller

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Or are raised

torn root
terse idol
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Yeeahh

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That's the tough

strange sparrow
#

The thing people fail to realize like making 20 crusher video about why crusher is not a threat
is the fact Crusher isn't the only thing that is actively killing you

cerulean void
#

just a shoutout, was a fun game

strange sparrow
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there's a sniper in the back

terse idol
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Which is fine

strange sparrow
#

some grenadier just yeeting molotov all over the ground

terse idol
#

Just dodge

torn root
terse idol
torn root
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lmao

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we had a discussion about him yesterday

strange sparrow
#

there's 3 specialist just spawn behind you

terse idol
#

Like wowie 20 crusher video lol

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You never see 20 crushers

strange sparrow
#

I mean the max stack I saw is 6 spawn

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but it hurt hard when it's a wave coming in

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specialist spam

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and the floor is lava

torn root
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kiting crushers is usually the least of your problems when there are crushers --- its everything else

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the distractions

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the hinderances

strange sparrow
torn root
#

I would share but as a content creator i can't recommend any video they've made

cerulean void
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me dodging but getting stopped dead because there's two poxwalkers about to take my toughness to 0: staregryn

tiny summit
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It's everything else on top of the crusher probably forcing your position to be bad. What am I gonna do? Just tell the crusher party to not advance on me?

torn root
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not someone who deserves publicity with the current demeanor they have

cerulean void
#

the crusher behind them: KEKW_ogryn

low lava
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Don't tell the crusher party, just shout at them and they will not advance for a few seconds KEKW_ogryn

low lava
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gotta be loud enough and make your point clear

tiny summit
#

Oh and the trapper ready to cleave through the crusher party?

strange sparrow
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Yea this tbh, Crusher doing overhead -> Bulwark stack into blocking crusher shot -> Gunner taking potshot in the back -> Bomber making your entire floor lava and vice versa

low lava
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we were just talking about the crushers, nothing about the netters :V

torn root
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the FUCKING bombers

strange sparrow
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It's never just the crusher

torn root
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there is always one when a Bulwark Phalanx is present

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for some ungodly reason

strange sparrow
#

it's a stack of everything that kill a run

cerulean void
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some people just don't realize that enemies themselves aren't individually a problem (unless it's that one poxwalker blessed by nurgle) it's the amount

solemn niche
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if you have problem with bulwark testudo formation you should try kark granade

umbral scaffold
#

Tbf the testudo formation is still bullshit even if nades can chew through it

tiny summit
solemn niche
kind otter
#

MMMmmmmm 380 base rating

tiny summit
#

They didn't end the run but we were horrified seeing what the director was trying to do

solemn niche
sacred spindle
#

my bane the last few runs has honestly been basic shooters

strange sparrow
#

Especially like some of the map layout that is fuckin dead trap

cerulean void
#

I had a hallway locked down by, I shit you not

bulwark in the front
a horde of ragers in armor
two crushers
and three gunners ripping it up in the back with their reaper buddy

sacred spindle
#

Trying out the plasma gun

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And it's great being able to delete anything

cerulean void
#

was some wiiiiild strats on the heretics part

strange sparrow
#

You left the elevalator

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They spawn in fuckin bulwark + crusher

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and a lesser monstrosity

sacred spindle
#

But it feels like a waste using all that heat on the shooters

low lava
#

Voidstrike or Plasma would deal with that just fine, pew pew

strange sparrow
#

thumbsup_ogryn I guess Im gonna dodge into a wall

cerulean void
sacred spindle
#

And my team are all gonna beeline for the elites & specials

solemn niche
#

real good players can dodge into a wall

torn root
terse idol
#

Its good

torn root
#

im jealous

terse idol
#

Uh

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Just make sure you have unarmoured

kind otter
terse idol
#

And not carapace

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I repeat not carapace

torn root
#

personally i would go flakiac

sacred spindle
tiny summit
#

I've seen almost full bleedouts of teammates because there were 2 bombers and we were stuck and couldn't get an angle on them and they staggered their throws on top of the downed teammate in fire

terse idol
#

No it's good ehat you're doing

sacred spindle
#

Just would rather delete the bulwark

terse idol
#

I know what ya meean

torn root
strange sparrow
#

Just another day in Auric Mael

torn root
#

i dont use the shred too often but damn it i wish it were higher

strange sparrow
#

20 Dogs -> 20 Mutants -> Bulwark/Crusher/Mauler Stack -> wave

terse idol
strange sparrow
#

because you step out the elevator

pastel geode
#

Thinking about redoing my skill tree from a VoC build to something else but not sure what to go for

strange sparrow
#

Elevator in this game is such a fuckin dead trap

terse idol
#

Its okay

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😌

cerulean void
terse idol
terse idol
#

And look at it this way, if it's 20 dogs that's free VOC

cerulean void
#

there's no other abilities besides infil and VoC you can't tell me otherwise lol

low lava
#

just move up to shout to buy space lol

torn root
#

20 dogs

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free ammo

cerulean void
#

jkjk they need to buff exe

terse idol
#

When you want to deal with gunners

low lava
#

They can bring back old exe and VoC probably would still be better lol

terse idol
#

Rmeeber all those rooms that open up to a wide area and there's like 30 gunners

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That's why we use marksmens focus

pastel geode
tiny summit
#

Infantry 1a then

cerulean void