But with unarmored and maniacs
#veteran-class
woven geode
is deadshot required for helbore builds
wanton dawn
is deadshot required for helbore builds
Is real good
midnight totem
Brutal momentum actually even makes uncharged attacks feel okay
wanton dawn
Unless you're like me and dont use hb to shoot
sharp ember
i say deadshot is good but not required
rapid hedge
uhh is this a good roll lol
sharp ember
surgical blessing will do most of the work increasing your crit rate
wanton dawn
uhh is this a good roll lol
Nah mate, sorry
rapid hedge
T_T
trim steppe
uhh is this a good roll lol
No 😦 stopping power is important, its your damage stat
rapid hedge
o well
midnight totem
Need stopping power
rapid hedge
so close yet so far
trim steppe
Charge rate and ammo are your dumps, you want to max the other 3
wanton dawn
Good
sharp ember
excellent roll
rapid hedge
o_o dats a good lasgun
trim steppe
I dig it, stability is the dump on those
woven geode
I shall upgrade it then
wanton dawn
trim steppe
I shall upgrade it then
Post the roll!
trim steppe
whomp whomp
wanton dawn
Ahahah you're poor
woven geode
lemme run a few damnations
wanton dawn
woven geode
i wish i could melt weapons into plasteel
woven geode
das a good roll
i thought perks were the meta
wanton dawn
I am rich atm
gilded rock
What is the dump stat on plas gun supposed to be anyhow?
rapid hedge
i got really lucky with my rolls lol
wanton dawn
I just dont want to waste time on crafting
rapid hedge
i cant help but feel imma suffer some bad luck in another part of my life now
trim steppe
What is the dump stat on plas gun supposed to be anyhow?
charge rate and ammo
gilded rock
Ahhh that was my guess as well
rapid hedge
so charge rate is primary dump and ammo is secondary dump?
sharp ember
you can dump thermal a certain amount and still have 8/8 uncharged shots from 0% heat
gilded rock
Mine is a good roll but with thermal resistance as the dump 💀
wanton dawn
so charge rate is primary dump and ammo is secondary dump?
Arguable but dump is dump
woven geode
do we ads the helbore or nah
wanton dawn
do we ads the helbore or nah
God yes
gilded rock
I would guess ammo is a better dump than charge rate because scavenger
wanton dawn
Lasgun have crap hipfire
gilded rock
You realistically won't be using plas gun for every enemy, but when you use it you want it to be as quick and as effective as possible
sharp ember
I would guess ammo is a better dump than charge rate because scavenger
the ammo returns on plasma from scavenger/survivalist are terrible, to the point that i wouldn't run it if i could save a talent point avoiding it
rapid hedge
Ok bois i have too many rolls my head hurts. Which one is the best? 1,2,3 or 4?
sharp ember
since it's based on your reserve ammo
and 50% of your total ammo is frontloaded into your magazine
gilded rock
Ahh makes sense
gilded rock
Ok bois i have too many rolls my head hurts. Which one is the best? 1,2,3 or 4?
Either 1 or 4 fs
trim steppe
Ok bois i have too many rolls my head hurts. Which one is the best? 1,2,3 or 4?
I'd just keep 2 since its done and very nice
torn root
the ammo returns on plasma from scavenger/survivalist are terrible, to the point...
gives you like 10 more shots at max ammo
sharp ember
Ok bois i have too many rolls my head hurts. Which one is the best? 1,2,3 or 4?
i really like your #2
wanton dawn
UPGRADE ALL AND KEEP BETTER GOD
rapid hedge
gonna need so much plasteel oi vey @_@
jagged inlet
Which perk should I replace and with what?
gilded rock
Also does plasma gun still fire at maximum damage when you shoot it with only a little left in the mag?
trim steppe
gonna need so much plasteel oi vey @_@
welcome to the darktide hamster wheel
sharp ember
i think yes, it's not like the helbore
gilded rock
Gunner is a good resist to have so keep that
rapid hedge
diamantine is a scam it sounds expensive but its worthless
torn root
Which perk should I replace and with what?
that's pretty good for jsut resistances
trim steppe
Which perk should I replace and with what?
i'd leave it, or up one of your res rolls to 20%
woven geode
okay guys so im in a precarious situation right now
copper pine
Yeah I would bump gunners to 20% and call it good
jagged inlet
Gamer, thanks for the advice
torn root
15% sniper res is enough to stop snipers from getting to health if you have like 160 toughness +50 [iron will]
gilded rock
I would swap sniper for revive speed or health, or whatever floats your boat as long as it's good
woven geode
for plasma gun, i made right click the tag button cuz i used to charge spam, but anyhwo i right click to tag them lmb spam to kill
now i ads and un ads all the time with helbore
hahahaha i have to get used to tagging with middle mouse again
trim steppe
I'd remove sniper res if you have it on another curio, you really only need 1 perk at 15/20% and its enough to stop snipers from ruining your life
jagged inlet
I'll leave as is then since this is my only sniper res curio
upgrade one of them to 20 once I've played with it a bit
gilded rock
Smart play
idle swallow
Getting shot by a sniper just means you didn't believe enough in the emperor
trim steppe
I like to run 3 hp/3 gunner res/1 sniper res /1 corruption res/1 stam regen
rapid hedge
fellow vets i use my thumb to press my shift key am i normal
gilded rock
You reach under every other finger to press shift?
torn root
fellow vets i use my thumb to press my shift key am i normal
You might be a mental patient
you WHAT?!
torn root
man is on the way to being a psychopath
spice wadi
fellow vets i use my thumb to press my shift key am i normal
r u an alien
strange sparrow
Left handed people also use PL;'
to play game
so their pinky touch the shift button
torn root
oy whats the diff between PSword mk3 and 6
strange sparrow
Psword 6 better move set
torn root
vanguards are the diagonal swipes no?
rapid hedge
wish the plasma gun had a bayonet
sharp ember
mk6 has built-in block effic.
can block after activating faster
has a better push attack combo
serene sage
fellow vets i use my thumb to press my shift key am i normal
Who taught you how to use a keyboard
rapid hedge
Who taught you how to use a keyboard
am self taught B)
serene sage
This is why we have school, people
It's fine tbh if you're left handed
Cause that's how you should ig
But if you're normal then straight to jail
torn root
This is why we have school, people
the key board is set up ina way that naturally guides where you'd want to place your fingers based off of intuition
some ppl are just psycho
serene sage
the key board is set up ina way that naturally guides where you'd want to place...
You're preaching to the choir, talk to the other guy
rapid hedge
Its comfortable tho
shadow aurora
Whatca guys talkin bout
serene sage
How do you dodge
shadow aurora
How do you dodge
You cant gotta block
serene sage
Whatca guys talkin bout
This dude uses his thumb for shift
serene sage
You cant gotta block
What
idle swallow
bruh they got boneitis
shadow aurora
That looks uncomfortable
rapid hedge
funnily enough i tried changing to pinky but it kinda hurt muh wrist lol i felt like i was over stretching
serene sage
Dude was born in the mirror universe 💀
idle swallow
Its comfortable tho
people were sometimes imprisoned for being left handed a few centuries ago, you would've been executed on the spot
rapid hedge
i mean i use 1 finger for sprinting and dodging , im more efficient Xd
serene sage
i mean i use 1 finger for sprinting and dodging , im more efficient Xd
Do you work in construction by any chance?
woven geode
if i macro "tag" to be spammed every 50ms is that bannable
lol
so it auto tags enemies
serene sage
Cause one dude digs, one dude stands, one dude points at something else
rapid hedge
nope im in medicine lol
serene sage
Just like your hand
rapid hedge
xD bruh
bright cliff
i mean i use 1 finger for sprinting and dodging , im more efficient Xd
the opposite of efficient wtf
rapid hedge
if i macro "tag" to be spammed every 50ms is that bannable
dont think u will get banned but people might kick u lol
shadow aurora
Yeah you wont get banned for that but people will probably think the spam is annoying
serene sage
don't be that guy
ebon umbra
if the game is gonna let you tag that fast then thats on the devs lmao
dont be that guy but still
serene sage
if the game is gonna let you tag that fast then thats on the devs lmao
is ought fallacy
if god didn't want me to murder then why would he give me the tools to commit murder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rapid hedge
me and a bunch of randoms instantly kicked a guy who we think had his tag binned to his left mouse button lol
ebon umbra
if god didn't want me to murder then why would he give me the tools to commit mu...
this isnt about morality. this is about the possibility. this is a game and that is real life.
now stop struggling under this pillow
serene sage
💀
rapid hedge
dont worry fox my thumb will save you
trim steppe
if the game is gonna let you tag that fast then thats on the devs lmao
The devs also added a mechanic that encourages tag spam, double oof
serene sage
dont worry fox my thumb will save you
I'd rather choose the sweet release of death, thanks.
ebon umbra
well isnt like spamming tags super quickly not let u get max stacks?
see im doing foxhope a favor
this is what god wants
torn root
okay on PSword MK6 what perks?
serene sage
idk if it's annoying or not but no one complains so far
rapid hedge
elite + flak i think
torn root
weakspot + elites? Since it pretty much nukes everything?
serene sage
i mean best button to tag
SHIFT, but you have to use your thumb
wanton dawn
i mean best button to tag
Left click 
trim steppe
weakspot + elites? Since it pretty much nukes everything?
dear lord no not weakspots
torn root
hehe
rapid hedge
issa good exercise
ebon umbra
i have my tag on shift so i can hit it quickly but not spam my team
rapid hedge
fkin matchmaking code error 9999 tf
serene sage
Left click <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Mr. Frenchman, French me a man
make him the cutest man car door hook hand
trim steppe
I have tag on E which is my interact key. Only downside is needing to dodge back before pinging ammo for my teammate when my ammo isnt full
serene sage
tag on W
wanton dawn
Mr. Frenchman, French me a man
make him the cutest man car door hook hand
Is that an haiku or smth ?
serene sage
rapid hedge
why not use middle mouse to tag xd?
serene sage
Is that an haiku or smth ?
never heard that song before?
rapid hedge
or thumb mouse button 5
torn root
bro is there a word that describes being dyslexic but when it comes to using a keyboard?
trim steppe
why not use middle mouse to tag xd?
I used to have it on middle mouse, but with the addition of the vet keystone I have to take my finger off of shoot to tag which is non-ideal
serene sage
wait wait, who here has heard the song Mr. Sandman before?
wanton dawn
Nope, excuse me mudkip
serene sage
damn
rapid hedge
I used to have it on middle mouse, but with the addition of the vet keystone I h...
press it with your middle finger
problem solved
wanton dawn
Ah, this one
rapid hedge
xD
torn root
actually can you be directionally challenged on a key board?
trim steppe
press it with your middle finger
my middle finger is on my rmb
woven geode
ads charege speed and hipfire chjarrge speed are diff?
wanton dawn
Man think i know the lyrics of scatman
rapid hedge
my middle finger is on my rmb
damn
trim steppe
unless you want me to unlearn 30 years of gaming i'm not doin that lol
serene sage
my middle finger is on my rmb
you people aren't normal
rapid hedge
have u tried using your thumb
trim steppe
who uses something other than index on lmb and middle on rmb????
wanton dawn
I use mouse middle click. It was default
torn root
you people aren't normal
WHAT?1
BRO YOUR MIDDLE FINGER IS THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON USING FINGER?!
what?!
rapid hedge
i feel normal
torn root
index on lmb, middle uses both rmb and the wheel
jagged inlet
Real men use middle finger for mmb
serene sage
oh I read LMB
trim steppe
BRO YOUR MIDDLE FINGER IS THE RIGHT MOUSE BUTTON USING FINGER?!
what the fuck do you use??!?! who doesnt use index and middle finger for their mouse buttons??
jagged inlet
and ring finger for rmb
torn root
i was about to start judging the entire chat lmao
serene sage
what the fuck stop confusing me just use M1 and M2 like a normal person
rapid hedge
alt + shift and spacebar with 1 finger im homoprimus
wanton dawn
Index for left click and wheel, middle for right
serene sage
okay who here plays RTS?
or some sort of isometric stuff like MOBAs
I have a question
torn root
what the fuck stop confusing me just use M1 and M2 like a normal person
index on m1 middle on m2
they are labeled as the right and left mouse buttons btw
that's what they are lmao
serene sage
that's like boomer verbiage though 😔
trim steppe
I first started computer gaming on my cousin's computer when I was like 4 and he was 9. He remapped his keys to be wonky and that's how I learned, it took me like 15 years to unlearn it and go back to normal keys. his/my setup was crazy
serene sage
people use M1 and M2 more no?
slate sleet
@formal lake is rashaad bis for zealot too?
torn root
people use M1 and M2 more no?
only the younder generation
serene sage
bro boomers are the ones that made computers so stop with that bs
im talking about the vocab, not who made what
lol
terse idol
bro boomers are the ones that made computers so stop with that bs
Uh, sorry but they weren't boomers when they made them 🤓
wanton dawn
Also young ppl dont use computer
torn root
the vocab is made by the creators who made manuals for their equipment sonny
trim steppe
I first started computer gaming on my cousin's computer when I was like 4 and he...
Q and W were strafe, A was jump, shift was backwards, space was interact. m1/lmb was shoot and m2/rmb was forward
torn root
dam i sound old
terse idol
I have a question
serene sage
the vocab is made by the creators who made manuals for their equipment sonny
do you call gifs "jifs" as well
torn root
tomato tomato
serene sage
answer
trim steppe
Q and W were strafe, A was jump, shift was backwards, space was interact. m1/lmb...
he said he came up with it so he could shoot and move with 1 hand so he could eat snacks at the same time
torn root
G is pronounced The same way as in Gift for me
trim steppe
and in the process he ruined my life
wanton dawn
I called them "gif or jif or whatever"
terse idol
Its gif
torn root
I'm not American so we use phonetically correct pronounciations
terse idol
Opinion irrelevant
What other words...
I mean we don't Jift people gifts
The peanut butter is called Jiffy NOt Giffy
serene sage
tbf, we don't giraffe and jiraffe
torn root
I mean we don't Jift people gifts
yeah but Geoff is pronounced Jeff
ebon umbra
its over
shadow aurora
Its called gif but saying jif deals psychic damage to everyone who hears it which will always be funnier
serene sage
the future is mobile gamers
like Steam Deck?
terse idol
yeah but Geoff is pronounced Jeff
Names are a fuck
torn root
because in America we do and say things differently
ebon umbra
like Steam Deck?
u got games on ur phone?
wanton dawn
Thats like second person pronom in french, we invented them to confuse clueless ppl
terse idol
You want your Sean or Shane
serene sage
u got games on ur phone?
I have this game called Discord
terse idol
Steven
torn root
its the only language where cks and q can all make the same sound
terse idol
Stephen
serene sage
it's okay
wanton dawn
Though we have nothing on the japanese
terse idol
Though we have nothing on the japanese
When 6 words sound the same but you can only use them in a context for it to make sense
serene sage
idk, im not Japanese
terse idol
Stepen
wanton dawn
idk, im not Japanese
Oni chan sama dono sensei
serene sage
omelete du fromage
torn root
only in America can you call Billy a William
Richard is Dick
like where tf does that come from?
wanton dawn
omelete du fromage
You won't get me with that i know my references
wanton dawn
omelete du fromage
serene sage
you got me upset ngl XD
eat a snicker, you're not you when you're hungry
torn root
same letters
torn root
eat a snicker, you're not you when you're hungry
not that kind of upset
man is gunna have twisted fingers in a few years
stray storm
I feel like the left side keystone is very poo
There are little few times to stand still in a game where everything is trying to kill you
serene sage
why do we drive in a parkway but park in a driveway?
serene sage
I feel like the left side keystone is very poo
There are little few times to st...
my honest opinion is that Plasma and Revolver are so game warping that it makes people judge the tree based on how well the talents synergize with those 2 weapons
left side is really fun with your more balanced options
like Boltgun, Agri Shotgun, Mg1a, etc.
stray storm
my honest opinion is that Plasma and Revolver are so game warping that it makes ...
Don’t get me wrong I’m trying to use it but it’s so complicated
stray storm
“Hang on Shit is happening everywhere lemme stand and reload while chaos unfolds before me”
wanton dawn
We had unwavering
sage agate
anything i should do to this?
stray storm
anything i should do to this?
Concert a perk into flak
torn root
now we have more damage and vet not good
Give them everything, so that they can complain about not having anything
torn root
anything i should do to this?
its a bit busted
serene sage
I like Agri Shotgun with Marksman Focus
torn root
but Savage Sweep > Wrath, not needed tho
serene sage
it lets me hit a few breakpoints
serene sage
I think people will appreciate Marksman a lot more if they have to use things that are not Revolver and Plasma which can hit breakpoints without talents
sage agate
aight ty
stray storm
I still have little knowledge on how damage works in this game so I just go with the flow :/
woven geode
thoughts on plasma vs zarona?
stray storm
All I know is
Aim for the head
spice wadi
vs who
woven geode
vs elites, specials, everything that isnt normal horde
torn root
I think people will appreciate Marksman a lot more if they have to use things th...
Columnus
")
sage agate
thoughts on plasma vs zarona?
idk but i use plasma cuz it makes the funny bass-boosted sound
serene sage
All I know is
Aim for the head
Marksman with Camoflage will get you stacks quickly, probably the only way to make it feel good for someone with average aim like me, not bad, just average
wanton dawn
I think people will appreciate Marksman a lot more if they have to use things th...
I dont like weakspot reliance so ill always hate marksman focus
woven geode
what happens if I LMB tag on zarona?
serene sage
I dont like weakspot reliance so ill always hate marksman focus
try the agri shotty with Marksman Focus
i feel like John wick clearing corners ngl
sage cedar
What are the best perks for the Kantreal lasguns?
strange sparrow
Kantrael LasGuns...
torn root
Kantrael LasGuns...
lets help not judge
wanton dawn
try the agri shotty with Marksman Focus
i feel like John wick clearing corners n...
I am not playing till the 2nd
Winter break
torn root
unless you use left shift with your thumb
strange sparrow
lets help not judge
I dont even know because I don't wanna play it
torn root
bro im heated
serene sage
Winter break
wouldn't that mean like
copper pine
Flak, manaic, unarmored all work fine
serene sage
you have free time?
wanton dawn
you have free time?
Imagine not using your computer for 2 weeks
serene sage
I don't understand
wanton dawn
Well, i could. I just dont wanna
frozen moth
why would anyone do that
strange sparrow
This look so cursed
wooden lotus
getting job has made me realize i took all my free time prior for granted
torn root
This look so cursed
vet's best fren
serene sage
getting job has made me realize i took all my free time prior for granted
You can still get all your free time back
frozen moth
that sounds so innocent
wanton dawn
I have my feet in front of a fire place right now
frank flame
LETS GO, VALHALLAN DRIP
wooden lotus
i already don't sleep
frank flame
JURGEN COSPLAY
wooden lotus
between my gf, job, and other obligations i already am pushing 6 hours a night lmfao
wanton dawn
Can send feet pick for proof
Anyhow, if i dont wanna do smth i dont do it and i dont wanna open my computer on these vacation
serene sage
I still don't get it
rapid hedge
btw has there been any skin for the plasma gun other than the one u can with dockets
tall torrent
JURGEN COSPLAY
Yooooooo that’s actually cool
serene sage
between my gf, job, and other obligations i already am pushing 6 hours a night l...
Ugh, I want a relationship but don't want to put in the work
Truly
wanton dawn
I am on a computer like, 60h a week and that probably understatement
serene sage
Tragic
frank flame
I believe in Valhallan superiority
wanton dawn
Knowing that i can NOT do it is very reassuring
wooden lotus
Ugh, I want a relationship but don't want to put in the work <:KEKW_ogryn:102207...
what's a relationship to you in this case if you don't wanna put in anything that makes it a relationship
most of the time my gf and i just play darktide or gtfo or banter when we're not hanging out irl
spice wadi
damn oxygen thieves
wooden lotus
work can be something as simple as just being present
which i mean
legitimately some people don't know how to be
serene sage
most of the time my gf and i just play darktide or gtfo or banter when we're not...
i can't seem to find girls who share my interest
wooden lotus
oh yeah that'll do it
serene sage
im okay in the look department, got a dozen or so dates, they are all boring
maybe im the asshole, who knows
strange sparrow
I hate Hadron
wooden lotus
i'm in a trans-for-trans relationship so the community i'm with has a lot of people with diverse interests and goals
so that's one advantage
strange sparrow
I double hate hadron
serene sage
yeah, I was briefly in a on off thing with a friend, but he's (she? idk they are mid transition and they won't tell me what to use) in Canada
so not working there
anyway'
spice wadi
schrodinger's pronoun
wooden lotus
you'll find someone one day, my gf was completely by happenstance so
wanton dawn
Vet chat relation support
wooden lotus
life can be strange
spice wadi
just gotta put urself out there
serene sage
I should get a dog
spice wadi
'out there' may be wildly different depending on your situation/place/interests
wooden lotus
i played ffxiv and i got laid more saying i don't play it rather than the way around 
beware the pipeline
serene sage
'out there' may be wildly different depending on your situation/place/interests
time for me to delete tinder and join an actually interest group ig
woven geode
what enemy is zarona weak against
spice wadi
how much did final fantasy playing or not playing come up
wooden lotus
it was one of my interests while i was still in university but i also dedicated too much time to it so it was my entire personality
now i'm a gundamhead
serene sage
it's not weak against anything
woven geode
so what perks then
wooden lotus
zarona deals with every enemy well, the only time it struggles is if you can't swap heads from enemy to enemy quickly enough or if you're caught out reloading and get gunned down in the night
last parcel
what enemy is zarona weak against
its biggest enemy is being used by me
serene sage
the only thing it's "weak" as is covered by Hand Canon because FS logic
serene sage
so what perks then
Maniac and Carapace, I think
Maniac and Flak works, too
some people also run Unyielding
it's more of a what Hadron decides to give you
spice wadi
it was one of my interests while i was still in university but i also dedicated ...
another one for almost blowing an education because MMO addictive
woven geode
I see thanks
serene sage
have I told the venezuela story here before?
wanton dawn
Prob not
spice wadi
is this gonna be some war crime shit
serene sage
is this gonna be some war crime shit
yeah, against me
serene sage
I was in a freshman in college, so a lil while ago.
Hit it off with a girl. We talked about random stuff and then international news came up.
She told me she's from Venezuela and that her country wasn't doing so well.
In my infinite wisdom, I said, "yeah I'm sorry. African countries usually struggle with civil wars right?"
She stopped dead in her track and said "you know Venezuela is in Latin America, right?" then walked the opposite way.
the thing is i passed AP History, ik where venezuela is
spice wadi
> I was in a freshman in college, so a lil while ago.
> Hit it off with a girl. ...
gotta take ur globe to the club with you so this doesnt happen
rookie mistake
serene sage
so like this?
do you have crit sources from elsewhere?
I would recommend Surgical over Speedload!
wanton dawn
> I was in a freshman in college, so a lil while ago.
> Hit it off with a girl. ...
I think i missed the joke
torn root
I dont feel like ADSing it...
i think you probably still should
serene sage
I think i missed the joke
there is no joke, just sheer stupidity (mine)
wanton dawn
torn root
its a playstyle shift but if you rather a revolver that doesnt ads there is the other one
wooden lotus
> I was in a freshman in college, so a lil while ago.
> Hit it off with a girl. ...
i fumbled a chick in college for saying i lived in southern cali when the area i lived was central
spice wadi
and ppl say geography isnt important
wooden lotus
you said it, brother
serene sage
Truly
torn root
> I was in a freshman in college, so a lil while ago.
> Hit it off with a girl. ...
bruh
spice wadi
gotta brush up when they surprise you with geoguesser in bed at 3AM
serene sage
Stay in school, kids
torn root
i have NO WORDS
serene sage
You just said 4
serene sage
Oh me?
torn root
yeah
wooden lotus
im ngl if that was suddenly a 'i dont wanna talk to you anymore' sorta deal to her i think it was going to be a tough relationship to manage anyhow
serene sage
That's a while ago. I'm doing okay
serene sage
I mean not okay okay but like okay as in I'm not the same awkward freshman y'know
Everyone I know seems to be a bit lonely nowadays, even the ones in relationships.
slender turtle
Everyone I know seems to be a bit lonely nowadays, even the ones in relationship...
Im got engaged on Christmas. Not all grim and dark
woven geode
which is the brightest flashlight lol
slender turtle
And i never thought i would get to that point
torn root
which is the brightest flashlight lol
that a mod?
woven geode
yeah
spice wadi
if the world's turning a lil bit too dystopian in your pov might be good to take a long break from scrolling the news
slender turtle
which is the brightest flashlight lol
They all have the same light i believe
but deathwatch is the coolest
serene sage
if the world's turning a lil bit too dystopian in your pov might be good to take...
I think I just need a hobby and develop genuine connections. I do okay on tinder in term of meeting people but there's always a hangup from their end or mine.
slender turtle
I met my significant other through work. And she was the last thing i stole from work before i left 
wanton dawn
I kinda enjoy loneliness so am whatever on the subject
serene sage
Do you think girls would like it if I talk about Boltgun breakpoints on first date?
Just to weed out the chaffs?
slender turtle
** Y E S**
torn root
I don't think tinder is the best place to be looking for a date
serene sage
I met my significant other through work. And she was the last thing i stole from...
Truly a modern love story
torn root
and even if its not for something serious there are better options imo
serene sage
Brb installing grindr
spice wadi
tinder is tryna make a profit
torn root
tinder is tryna make a profit
seen that $100 subscription?
spice wadi
I've seen the one which is even more than that
torn root
or was it more
spice wadi
and idek what it even does
torn root
either way that's nutty
spice wadi
do they make you talk to bot profiles for a week before you get to swipe on a real person in the free version or something
torn root
i don't think it matters what it does, thats just crazy
i know thereis one at like $450 or something but at that point
spice wadi
i wanna know what they used to get money from ppl who are that down bad
spice wadi
I get the standard stuff of
torn root
idk if down bad explains what thos ppl are
spice wadi
Here is your free version
torn root
might be brain dead
spice wadi
Here is your paid version with no ads
shadow aurora
I wish right keystone increased weapon swap speed. Using a shovel boltgun build with right keystone but the bolter is way too slow to take out for it to be effective. Need myself a bolt pistol or smthn
spice wadi
you can use exe stance with bolter to skip the swap animation
torn root
I wish right keystone increased weapon swap speed. Using a shovel boltgun build ...
bolter is painful
spice wadi
you just twiggle a little doodad on the bolter to get the machine spirit excited
shadow aurora
Using voc
spice wadi
then perish
serene sage
I think VoC can cancel the animation
torn root
2 seconds to ready, get a short dopamine rush, then reload for 6 seconds for another 2 second hit
shadow aurora
serene sage
Speeding it up
old quail
then perish
have some empathy glue boy
serene sage
Kinda like knife zealot swapping trick
spice wadi
get out of my mind palace
shadow aurora
I think VoC can cancel the animation
Ill have to test that
old quail
is your mind palace the veteran class channel
spice wadi
sure why not
shadow aurora
It cancels the animation but youre not allowed to shoot until itd normally be over it seems
So that ideas rip
wanton dawn
Vet channel is the place you go to tell ppl they play wrong, solve your daily interaction requirement and learn weird pokemon test name
spice wadi
gluesniff builds
tall torrent
@bitter turtle actually since u tested MF keystone “tunnel vision” being functionally +25% toughness you gain from all sources
Does that mean the 10% toughness replenishment in the middle tree also give a x1.1 multiplier on every source of toughness gain?
torn root
low key think dogs are bugged
strange sparrow
Yipee got bricked again
spice wadi
'my dog is so nice and friendly with strangers'
the dog:
torn root
holy shit
torn root
Yipee got bricked again
RIP my dude
i stopped rolling mine because the last grind i did took WAY too many rolls
shadow aurora
Not working
strange sparrow
I already got 2 character perfect amount of weapon
shadow aurora
The video
strange sparrow
Now it's just Vet
serene sage
Damn
rapid hedge
guys is glory hunter or blaze away better on plasma? both tier 4
torn root
guys is glory hunter or blaze away better on plasma? both tier 4
blaze away
rapid hedge
copy that
shadow aurora
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046912126746374274/118944526454...
Also broken
terse idol
'my dog is so nice and friendly with strangers'
the dog:
The dog when it sees a small unattended child
shadow aurora
Probably a mobile thing dont sweat it
terse idol
"He's just quirky"
shadow aurora
Your honor the dog was HUNGRY
torn root
bro was just happy to see the defendant
shadow aurora
Ill just download video dont sweat it
terse idol
Wait wait wait
This isn't an iframe thing
The dog just pounced wrong they do that
The dodge iframe doesn't last that long
And you can't stand still and dodge like you can with snipers iirc
radiant hare
strange sparrow
The dog just pounced wrong they do that
He hit me when im in dodge animation
You could see it when you slowed it down
Is fire frenzy still salvagable
Changing Punishing Salvo to DumDum
Stamina to Flak/Cara
tall torrent
Is fire frenzy still salvagable
Could harvest
Could also go the route u said
But that 35% mobility is gonna cost ur dodges
idle carbon
why does that vaguely look like some modern-day automatic shotguns
torn root
Current Columnus
the ammo hurts my soul
tall torrent
It's 1 dodge for a lot more ammo than what I have atm
That’s not even a lot
void bronze
What do I do for the second pick
woven geode
whats the dump stat for agripinaa revolver?
woven geode
this good?
terse idol
You could see it when you slowed it down
I'm certainly not convinced but that's just mee
strange sparrow
That’s not even a lot
That's what I think until I realize how much ammo columnus burnt
terse idol
How much mobility does your columnus have?
torn root
whats the dump stat for agripinaa revolver?
dump stat on most weapons that have it is mobility
strange sparrow
even with +30% ammo and Survialist
terse idol
I will say uh, you don't want 30 mobility however
Lower mobility will gimp you preeettyy hard
torn root
*I will say uh, you don't want 30 mobility however*
this too
tall torrent
That's what I think until I realize how much ammo columnus burnt
Yea 30-40 shots isn’t gonna heal that problem for u
torn root
i usually dont bother crafting most weapons that dont have 50% or more in my dump choice
tall torrent
But losing 1 dodge on a dodge heavy gun is pretty bad imo
strange sparrow
Doesn't AmmoTin/Survialist return ammo on proportion of your total ammo
white minnow
ammo doesn't scale very much on the columnus so i'd dump it
yeah it scales off of your reserve ammo
but columnus ammo scaling is only 500-600
torn root
and some weapons i think whould have min 70% in everything, im greedy
white minnow
compared to a lot of guns
tall torrent
Doesn't AmmoTin/Survialist return ammo on proportion of your total ammo
Yes but scaling 1% off of 30-40 missing ammo is MINUSCULE compared to having 1 more dodge
white minnow
as long as you have enough mobility to comfortably dodge around a horde, that's good enough i suppose
I really do like the speed and dodge distance on the columnus for just skirting around as I greed for kills elsewhere
tall torrent
You’re only missing 38 ammo from an 80% ammo roll
Scaling 1% off of that is minuscule
golden nacelle
woven geode
is competitive urge a good talent
tall torrent
Don’t
terse idol
is competitive urge a good talent
Its consistent
It'll also make more mileage when you play auric damn or regular damn
tall torrent
is competitive urge a good talent
It’s alright but 20% ogryn/monster is usually better, and 10% rending is situationally better
terse idol
It honestly is kinda bad at lower difficulties
tall torrent
On damnation hiSTG you can end up with like
Let’s say on the higher end
3000 kills
Comp urge is 2.5% chance to proc for any kills by your team, so 1/40 chance
That’s ~75 comp urge procs
each lasting 8s
woven geode
Interesting
torn root
is competitive urge a good talent
Competetive urge i feel like is gearded towards auric only
golden nacelle
that seems pretty solid
torn root
you wont get it to proc too much on lower difficulties unless its like hi intensity
tall torrent
However
20% ogryn/monster can net you some important breakpoints depending on your weapon
Helbore wants it
Plasma wants it
Combat axe wants it
Pretty sure power sword also wants it
torn root
and rending is good on low damage weapons vs carapace
golden nacelle
So... is that graia worth picking up?
tall torrent
Rending is good if you’re running autoguns
tall torrent
Melk’s garage sale
golden nacelle
shit blessings and perks
woven geode
VId any good?
tall torrent
VId any good?
For fun, yes
For actually playing seriously in higher difficulties & trying to win, no
crisp rapids
fellow vets, W or L?
serene sage
Dum dum and it's W
serene sage
W
crisp rapids
manic is optional lasttime i tried
i do put maniac on my vraks every time
but agrip does porettty nice maniac dmg
alreayd
sharp ember
MORE
crisp rapids
sharp ember
suffer not the mutant, the flamer, the dreg rager
crisp rapids
also WTF graia braced has 770 AMMO???
vale ledge
also WTF graia braced has 770 AMMO???
It’s damage is shite
crisp rapids
It’s damage is shite
it doesnt seem like that
also agrip mk1 still suffers from insane stability issues?
orchid musk
It got buffed recently.
crisp rapids
like barrelly seems psosible to aim without executioner
i am just going trough my vet stuff. since been a while since i played:
what about this?
sharp ember
a graia brauto with Survivalist legit has more ammo than you can shoot, but it has stagger issues without exe stance
things an agri brauto would easily knock down will not a flinched by a graia
real fun to use with Onslaught though
sharp ember
i am just going trough my vet stuff. since been a while since i played:
what ab...
that there is an amazing headhunter
100% optimal
white minnow
i love the fact that exe's stance still gives +impact
crisp rapids
id say headhunter is better on mk3
mk7, esspecially with that low stability prolly does better on surgical, n?
no?
crisp rapids
speed loader on graia doenst seem that bad
considering it shoots so fast
fire rfenzy speedloader +25% flak +8% elite
should be fine
slate sleet
the more i use focus target and its keystones the more im convinced weapon specialist is absolutely worthless
crisp rapids
the more i use focus target and its keystones the more im convinced weapon speci...
try using weapon specializes with revolve ror plasma
never reload
slate sleet
the headhunters are insanely good yes
💬 weapun speshulist with uuh meter wepuns
SHUT UP
pleb
this is a plasma free zone
sharp ember
is the agrip headhunter good now?
unremarkable, it's just fine, not amazing
the 2-shot burst no longer takes a year per trigger pull
crisp rapids
but does a non kill headshot yeet the enemy away so u cant land the second shot?
woven geode
guys idk what gun to use, im sick of the plasma gun.
I like to kill anything other than hordes (for hordes I have my MK6 Psword). Helbore sucks too.
What's the best for this?
sharp ember
it shoots fast enough that both rounds should hit the head
near sable
bolter isn't even terrible with weapon specialist
slate sleet
near sable
my best vraks is 548 but fate chanced it with ghost n deadly accurate
crisp rapids
pretty sure i dont need extra 25% ammo on a graia :XD:
woven geode
Hmm
so many choices.
Ive narrowed it down to
Infantry Lasguns
Recon Lasguns
Infantry Autoguns
Headhunter Autoguns
Heavy Laspistols
which I guess isn't very narrow at all haha
near sable
Kant MK4 lasgun.
terse idol
so many choices.
Ive narrowed it down to
Infantry Lasguns
Recon Lasguns
Infantry...
Just uh
near sable
strange sparrow
Recon Lasguns and Infantry Lasguns are unironically terrible to have fun imo except you're into Kreig Larp
crisp rapids
recon las are good no?
terse idol
The Ia is good
crisp rapids
well usable
terse idol
recon las are good no?
No it's terrible
strange sparrow
terrible to have fun
terse idol
well usable
Its "useable" as in yeah you can shoot enemies with them
terse idol
They just have the worst dps
near sable
inf las are good but have zero tactile feedback, because people in early testing didn't like lasgun recoil
crisp rapids
even with headhunter infernu?
terse idol
Infantry Lasguns are good
terse idol
even with headhunter infernu?
Headhunter crit chains are still bad
Infernus is...
Middling imo
near sable
MK4 lasgun has a 200% maniac modifier
woven geode
oh and i guess ill throw revolvers into the mix since they seem to be on a lot of top voted build guides
strange sparrow
IAG have the highest win rate in my book rn
Simply because it want you to play aggressively
woven geode
This any good?
slate sleet
3 month old dogass tierlist
strange sparrow
Yea it's too old
woven geode
anyone have an updated one?
strange sparrow
Hellbore Mk 3 has drop into not great tier
Shredder is alright but it got nerfed
strange sparrow
tall torrent
Witness pain brought to you by <@366562874039992331>
That’s soldier69’s clip I think
woven geode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StY3tBJlWGY how's this
slate sleet
that guy knows what hes saying
tall torrent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StY3tBJlWGY how's this
We’re currently in patch16
woven geode
oh
slate sleet
use whatever gun you want
strange sparrow
Zorona is A tier
slate sleet
the whole point of vet is that it makes every gun good
strange sparrow
eeeeee
slate sleet
ill make a build for you
terse idol
But I will say Kanteael IA
Is acceptable
Again I'm gonna say it
Vet chat is experiencing meta burn
Anything that isn't as good as the best weapons is instantly shit tier
We gota be careful because many guns are fine
And we got the curve from the worst - recon
To the best
Pgun
strange sparrow
Solo queue into Mael Auric
terse idol
I wouldn't win with recon
strange sparrow
I want to see the win rate
tall torrent
The reason why we can’t have smth like the Ogrynomicon for veterans is that nobody agrees with each other enough most of the time
terse idol
I mean, I could just skew the results and play mainly melee
sharp ember
the mg1a is a wonderful gun
terse idol
sharp ember
just doesn't do anti-armor
terse idol
The reason why we can’t have smth like the Ogrynomicon for veterans is that nobo...
I can see like some trends
sharp ember
or close range emergency dps
terse idol
Throw the recon in the dumpster and wr can agree on some weapons
woven geode
is MKX Laspistol bad, its not on the tierlist
terse idol
No
strange sparrow
Its ok
tall torrent
The reason why we can’t have smth like the Ogrynomicon for veterans is that nobo...
If u ask me I’d say the top best guns for vet are plasma, mk2 revolver, mk2 helbore and mk5 IAG, with mk1 Helbore like literally millimeters trailing behind them
sharp ember
is that the new one
woven geode
ah
strange sparrow
But Laspistol is not that fun imo
terse idol
Basically
What's good is like
Revolvers
Pgun
Iags
Infantry lasguns
Helbore
sharp ember
the new heavy laspistol is nice, it can 1 headshot shotgunners and stuff without crits
slate sleet
tall torrent
If u ask me I’d say the top best guns for vet are plasma, mk2 revolver, mk2 helb...
But some people think helbore is trash so it’s just lol
woven geode
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af7a789-ef21-4bd4-991e-d3f0985cf137/gi...
interesting
slate sleet
as long as you mark everything you shoot you are looking at a baseline 30%+ damage increase
terse idol
I dunno after talking a while on the discord like
slate sleet
krak crushers and shields
halcyon zephyr
Worth ripping the blessing or re-doing perks?
torn root
I DONT LIKE WEAKPOINT DAMAGE
tall torrent
as long as you mark everything you shoot you are looking at a baseline 30%+ dama...
It’s not as high as 30%
torn root
sorry caps
idle swallow
I DONT LIKE WEAKPOINT DAMAGE
skill issue
terse idol
I would raather have a discussion on the discord
slate sleet
you get 12% from redirect fire forever, and whatever stacks you build between killing
usually around 30%
terse idol
At the end of the day it's a million voices screaming into the void about what's good
torn root
skill issue
how i rahter just do a shit ton more damage by getting something else
lmao
tall torrent
Practically it’s like 20% or so
8% from marking target (keystone refreshes to a minimum of 2 stacks between rapidly killing marked targets)
12% from 8 stacks of redirect fire
torn root
i dont like aiming
halcyon zephyr
But some people think helbore is trash so it’s just lol
Allow me to introduce myself
torn root
why ask me to do it better
tall torrent
Allow me to introduce myself
terse idol
Allow me to introduce myself
Smmmmhh
woven geode
MK7 vs MK3 headhunter, thoughts?
slate sleet
i usually have like 4ish stacks
torn root
I dunno after talking a while on the discord like
i dont think most of the builds on that sight are guides per say
but you find some good ones that explain some stuff
lilac jungle
Best blessings for the MK3 shovel?
tall torrent
There’re 3 kinds of helbore haters:
- I hate the iron sights
- I hate having to charge my shots
- Mk3 is awful
slate sleet
if you space the marking out depening on the target its easily 30%
hollow ibex
There’re 3 kinds of helbore haters:
1. I hate the iron sights
2. I hate having t...
and there are those that hate the draw time
tall torrent
and there are those that hate the draw time
Mk1 and mk2 don’t really have that problem so those people can go into the 3rd category
hollow ibex
ok fair
torn root
Worth ripping the blessing or re-doing perks?
i feel bad seeing this one but better luck next time
terse idol
Honestly yeah I used the mk3 for a while and hated how clunky it felt
Then went to mk1
Wow
tall torrent
Worth ripping the blessing or re-doing perks?
Just rip blessing
torn root
uninspired but i think you want savage sweep+ rampage still
wrath in place of savage sweep works
if you dont want to roll ad naus
slate sleet
hellbore lasguns have the same issue that exe stance does
its frustrating to use in high intensity damnation
tall torrent
its frustrating to use in high intensity damnation
Mk3 yea
The other two not really
torn root
high intensity damnation is the perfect place to exec stance
lmao
literally a target rich environment
slate sleet
gets piped
torn root
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af7a789-ef21-4bd4-991e-d3f0985cf137/gi...
btw why not elite damage instead of marksman?
slate sleet
the build i linked is literally exec stance except you are useful to your team and dont die immediately if something goes wrong
torn root
more consistent
terse idol
After I played abit of damnation with exe like, it's great just to clear up a wad of gunners for your team
tall torrent
With the exception of maulers and crushers you can bayonet everything and go right back into shooting
terse idol
I just gain so much toughness
Just trade shots with regular targets while youe team melees everything else
torn root
can someone explain what rending does
it makes your weapons do roughly 10% more damage vs armour
slate sleet
btw why not elite damage instead of marksman?
i prefer the weakspot dmg for bosses but you can swap it
halcyon zephyr
Smmmmhh
Other people coping: Helbore is good at killing armor, you can compensate for the charge time, it's cheap and efficient, you can use mods to make the iron sights tolerable, the bayonet is great rn just don't tell the gargantuan pufferfish.
Me, an intellectual, seething.
**Why ‘da hel would i use a slow charg'n weapon wit' a terrible iron. Sure, i kould use a mod ta make it better, but i fink its terrible design iz work'n as intended. An’ do not yer get me started on da bayonet. If it iz so damn gud, remove all dakka an replace everyth'n wit' a kark'n spear. **
lilac jungle
can someone explain what rending does
iirc it ignores armor but im not 100% on that
torn root
can someone explain what rending does
the lower the damage your weapon does the more of the benefit it gets
some weapons actually do more than 10% more damage if iirc
woven geode
lower damage vis-a-vis dmg to unarmoured target?
serene sage
If you do 50% damage to Carapace, now you do 60% damage to Carapace with 10% Rending
terse idol
Other people coping: Helbore is good at killing armor, you can compensate for th...
I like the irons 🥹
torn root
or low as in columnus mk v low compared to other variants?
yes
tall torrent
Other people coping: Helbore is good at killing armor, you can compensate for th...
It’s really not that slow charging, especially mk2
torn root
columnus benefits heavy from rending strikes
serene sage
Or just Onslaught
serene sage
Honestly rending matters for Carapace almost only
Most weapons have good flak damage already
torn root
flak included
muted knot
And yet we throw extra flak damage perk on most everything
serene sage
Yes but rending doesn't help with flak specifically
woven geode
this is what I came up with based on what @slate sleet sent
gave up rending for +20% ranged base dmg
for long range targets
ember estuary
Do Veteran auras stack, do two damage auras stack on each other?
slate sleet
think so
serene sage
Drop close quarter killzone fpr Survivalist
serene sage
Do Veteran auras stack, do two damage auras stack on each other?
They don't
ember estuary
Ok
serene sage
No same aura stacks
tall torrent
Do Veteran auras stack, do two damage auras stack on each other?
No
woven geode
this even any good?
serene sage
Regardless of class
tall torrent
this even any good?
It’s ok for autoguns
serene sage
this even any good?
For some weapons it's near mandatory, for others it doesn't matter
terse idol
this even any good?
Yeah the constancy is uo and down though but it's good for like lasguns
serene sage
Vraks can use it
muted knot
Don't run it on a shotgun
woven geode
that i havent decided yet
serene sage
im going for absolute highest dps
The thing is you have Long Shot AND Close Quarter Killzone
muted knot
What do you have ?
serene sage
They can't be both active
woven geode
i have plasma and ag revolver
terse idol
Don't run it on a shotgun
Can't stop me 
woven geode
i plan on getting a MK7 headhunter
serene sage
Don't run it on a shotgun
Good for agri though 😔
muted knot
Fair
craggy relic
yo fellas is this good for crowd control?
craggy relic
wdym?
Im genuinely asking if it is good for crowd control as I havent been doin good with it
muted knot
Oh that's what you Mean
craggy relic
might be a skill issue on my part
but Ive been trying to ask this for a couple days now if anythin lol
muted knot
It's about as good as its gonna get for the weapon
tidal rapids
The stats suggest that yes, it's good for cc
muted knot
It's not a Powersword but you shouldn't be comparing to Powersword anyway
woven geode
Kantrael MGXII,
Agripinaa MK I,
Kantrael Mk X, or
Vraks Mk VII?
craggy relic
It's not a Powersword but you shouldn't be comparing to Powersword anyway
I do have one in the box that's dusty as shit
bc I felt dirty using it
serene sage
Im genuinely asking if it is good for crowd control as I havent been doin good w...
It's a chainsword which does about an A- job at horde clearing in general
If you want S tier waveclear try Powersword or CAxe
muted knot
How does the new one compare to the old one ? Cause my old one fucks big time
muted knot
If you want S tier waveclear try Powersword or CAxe
CAxe really ??
serene sage
Combat Axe