veteran-class

[trail quartz]

not as good like 2h sword eva

[torn root]

savage sweep + rampage [flakiac]

[tall torrent]

Because in my experience chainsword specials practically do no exist in mass armor

[torn root]

wrath works too but i got blessed with the sweep

[torn root]

XIIg is just for hoards

[golden nacelle]

What would you change?

[torn root]

i wouldnt really bother with the specials

its just that it CAN deal with them too

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t mk4 have a better horde moveset then?

[torn root]

no

because heavy attacks are slow af whenn you can set up an hoard with shoves into bash attack

[tall torrent]

Mk4 sweeps are flatter though

[trail quartz]

the bayonette for an underbarrel grenade launcher. i dont know why thats not a thing in warhammer 40k.
however isuck with helbore

[torn root]

and the light spam

[tall torrent]

Mk4 light spam works pretty well as well? I have wrath on mine

Maybe that’s the difference

[torn root]

mk4 light spam has double overhead instead of 1

[glacial yacht]

infested to carapace or unyielding and gloryhunter to pinning fire or shattering impact

[tall torrent]

Ik mk4 L1 doesn’t have very high cleave to enable savage sweep

[torn root]

and the bash attack in xiig instantly activates both blessings

[serene sage]

an ogryn spamming kickback, killing mostly lesser enemies decided to hide in a corner at assassination target and died

then was like "why no one come to this corner, clearly you haven't done this before"

[tall torrent]

Maybe I’ll give mk13g another go but I never had much love for chainswords to begin with

[serene sage]

stfu kickback spammer

that weapon carried so many dumbfucks and inlfated their ego

dude took 10 small packs, 5 big packs

[tall torrent]

Really not a fan of how chainsword special just cease to exist the moment more than 1 crusher steps in

[serene sage]

and never pull out his melee

[trail quartz]

im not a orgyn player but i kinda feel offended xD

[torn root]

basically why i love it

[serene sage]

there goes my 7 game auric t5 winstreak

[torn root]

i dont think i will have an easier time setting up the blessings while being defensive

[serene sage]

because of some average player with an inflated ego

[trail quartz]

FUK sorry men : S

[serene sage]

if you use kickback and never pull out melee

you're a shitter

period

[tall torrent]

How do u deal with carapace and mass ragers then

[trail quartz]

sounds like a bad relationshipt. you put it i nmen but yo uforgot to pull it out..

xD

[torn root]

tbh they need to shorten the animation for both activating it and hitting

probably still wont use it much

[torn root]

I has gun

[trail quartz]

sry bad joke

[tall torrent]

I can use chainaxe special just fine cuz they actually kill stuff but chainsword special is so sad

Chainaxe funny crusher 1 shot

[torn root]

i hate the chainsword special just as much

imma be honest stuff like the power sword makes you wonder why we need long animations just to kill 1 dude

[tall torrent]

Well power sword has horrible dodges

[torn root]

its mostly the stickyness for me

[tall torrent]

Can Mk13g revved heavy 2 hit a crusher?

[trail quartz]

r u from eu btw? if yes we can play togeter killing shitters

[torn root]

no it specializes in hoard cleare nothing more

i will kill crushers with my gun

dont think ive posted how fast a crusher dies in close range

[tall torrent]

What gun do u pair with mk13g

[torn root]

thats without tagging it

[trail quartz]

mi, even against ragers on T5 auric : I

[torn root]

need a better roll but crushers die fast enough already while kiting

and i didnt even aim at the head

[trail quartz]

ye stam only with crits

[torn root]

imagine needing stamina to kill something

we dont use it to shove or deal with things in our faces, or deal with anything at all

[trail quartz]

its the same vid xD i jsut said its the stamina thing

[torn root]

yeah because 25% crit is based

[trail quartz]

you shoot, stam depletes

you get crit instead

[torn root]

yup

pretty good given that you can regen stamina so fast

[trail quartz]

and it doesnt whiggle that much around (stability

[trail quartz]

yes you need. killing 7 crushers i na row

the other passive is cool where you can regain stam to up-hold it tho

[torn root]

oh i have a ton of stamina regen

on curios and on the tree

without deadshot it takes like 4 seconds to kill 1 crusher but its not a solo game so the others can help

[trail quartz]

i think to be hoenst the biggest burden that the vet has is actual the stam -delay regen, not tne regen itself

[torn root]

i lowered my delay

[trail quartz]

how i mentioned got like 380 hours into vet but thats a real buthurt since release xD

[torn root]

bottom right side of the tree

[trail quartz]

u can ye

[torn root]

well not can

should

because it touches ONSLAUGHT

[trail quartz]

you "can". shoud" sounds meta. and im succsesfull without it

[torn root]

well META is a suggesiton

[trail quartz]

but ye you critbuild is 100% viable and should be played more

[torn root]

so yeah you can call it that, you can only suggest that someone uses the most effective tactics avaliable

they are never forced

[torn root]

idk about this one

seeing plasma gunners is giving me a dopamine rush

[trail quartz]

meta is something i will never use (not cos yo uuse it but other ppl that dont belong somewhere) so no offence : 3

[trail quartz]

it looked rly guud : o

[torn root]

ppl who are anti meta are ironic because i guarentee if i looked at your set up you have some meta choices in it

the ironic part is that since meta options are so good ppl gravitate towards some of the choices easily

[trail quartz]

in a brunin g situation im sure that extra " free dps for trade of of block n push is a good payoff in my opinion

that can safe games men

[celest oracle]

Guys send your cool veteran outfits in the thing I want to see some cool outfits I don’t know what the game has to offer

[tall torrent]

Plasma is cool but that cool wears off fast

[trail quartz]

and lol i just relaized i sound like an asshole but i dont rly mean it xD

[torn root]

i wouldnt know because im stuck hyperfixated on getting the 1 damned blessing

not trying anything else till melk or the emperor blesses me

[tall torrent]

What I’m currently using

Would change headpiece to scion helmet when it drops in the store

[torn root]

no you dont sound like one, just granted when something is remotely strong best bet is that a bunch of people have come to an agreement on some level and are using it

[trail quartz]

thanksy very much sir : 3

[tall torrent]

Which blessing are u chasing after

[torn root]

meta is a collection of all those good things and granted a good chunk of the community will have already been using items in that collection

[torn root]

rampage 4 for the xiig

i dont NEED it

i want it

[tall torrent]

Oh lmao I am also missing only rampage 4 for chainsword family

[celest oracle]

That one’s cool I’m using the pants and the jacket on that one I like the leather straps

[trail quartz]

if i have to say soemthing it has a reason and how we learned together about supressio nabout shotgunners, i learned soemthing new too

[torn root]

its the only blessing i have ever hunted and still havent gotten it in the 1st week of grinding it

[torn root]

its a myth man, im telling you

wish more people would use duck and dive btw

[tall torrent]

Hadron is purposefully not giving me stuff I’m missing

Helbore: no respite 4
Power sword: brutal momentum 4
Chainsword: rampage 4
DC sword: rampage 4 (and 2 others I don’t care abt)

[torn root]

the amount of free stamina ive gotten while just sliding and running is hilarious

[tall torrent]

I think I’m missing 2 tier4 blessings for infantry lasguns

Headhunter autoguns I collected all

[torn root]

they need to buff melk bro

[tall torrent]

By all I mean every blessing at every tier

[torn root]

at this point melk doesnt need to sell weapons with blessings

he should be an outlet that rotates t4 blessings only

and sells high stat weapons for the currency

but fatshark will be hesitant to give us a good thing

[tall torrent]

I actually want to try no respite 4 on HB

Extra bayonet funny

[torn root]

that bayonett does damage

ngl

[tall torrent]

That bayonet does more boss dps than the gun itself

[torn root]

lmao

that's sad

[tall torrent]

Cuz the gun needs headshots to get optimal dps

Against a moving plague Ogryn in your face it’s hard

But bayonet u just continuously stab its head easily

[torn root]

does the bayo get affected by the weapon perks?

probably does but never tested this

[tall torrent]

Melee dmg talents? Yes

Brutal momentum from your melee weapon? Also yes

They patched limbsplitter

[torn root]

i mean the perks on the wepon

like unyielding damage etc.

[tall torrent]

Yes they work

[torn root]

im gunna do something goofy

[tall torrent]

I have a true godroll HB2 rn

25% unarmored (locked)
25% maniac
Onslaught 4 (locked)
Surgical 4

It bullies ragers

And kills everything in like 1-3 stabs

Except Ogryn enemies

[torn root]

back to ww2 in 40k

[tall torrent]

Agile engagement also works for HB

You get separate agile engagement buffs for bayonet kills and lasgun kills

Meaning you can keep both parts of the gun buffed up with agile engagement if you’re actually using both functions

[torn root]

im gunna be honest

i Don't like that talent

[tall torrent]

It’s not a must-pick for sure

But it’s very strong for helbore 1/2 and plasma gun

[torn root]

like at all lmao something about weapon swap speed, ready speed and the braced/ ads speed makes it clucnky for mw

[tall torrent]

Also helps maintain combat axe breakpoints

Cuz my Rashad needs 5 stacks of headtaker for Dreg bruiser 1 shot

[torn root]

i dont think anything on vet is a must pick

EXCEPT

[tall torrent]

But if I have agile engagement (melee buff) active, I can swap to axe and keep that breakpoint

[torn root]

iron will

anyone can @ me but that talent is busted

and brain dead

[tall torrent]

And use the buff duration to build headtaker stacks, so I maintain the breakpoint all the time

[tall torrent]

It’s also like one of the only 3 things keeping veteran alive so I don’t have problems with it

I think it’s fair and balanced

[torn root]

im using it with exhilerating takedown

[tall torrent]

You still gotta manage your toughness above 75% to make use of it

[torn root]

80% reduction from talents alon is kinda nutty

[tall torrent]

It’s not 80%

Pretty sure TDR works in multiplication

Not addition

[torn root]

hmm

[tall torrent]

Otherwise you’d be able to stack >100% TDR

[torn root]

im taking like 23 damage in melee from mobs tho

[tall torrent]

Infiltrate modifier -50%
Iron will -50%
COD -33%
ET (x3) -30%

[rigid pilot]

It's multiplication

[tall torrent]

I’m pretty sure it actually works as multipliers

Iron will is x0.5

[rigid pilot]

I think it's been confirmed many times from different sources

Like sniper res etc

[tall torrent]

Yea

[torn root]

i thin that makes sense

[rigid pilot]

So it's really diminishing returns

[torn root]

cause a walker does like 60 damage

and im taking 23

which is more than if it were 80% so yeah i get it

[tall torrent]

Would u say taking 2 gunner resist + 1 sniper resist is fine for curios

Not going all 3 gunner resist

Or should I swap the second gunner resist to smth else

[rigid pilot]

I'm more interested in sniper BP

[torn root]

i have no sniper resistance and the +50 toughness is enough to stop my toughtness from breaking to 1 sniper shot

[rigid pilot]

1 sniper res and 200 HP

Gunner res is meh, I always take revive speed

[torn root]

175+50*

[tall torrent]

I think I have like 189hp on my current build rn

[torn root]

i might be the only player to neglect hp

sitting at 170 lmao

squishy vet saved by iron will

[tall torrent]

I have a perfect health curio
+21% health
+12% stam regen
+12% block efficiency
+20% sniper resist

[muted knot]

Both is where it's at man

[torn root]

i might be selfish

i dont ever bother with rev speed

[muted knot]

What's the best of the devil's claws ?

[torn root]

+stamina, stamina regen, toughness and tougness regen

[hollow ibex]

IV

[muted knot]

Mark 1 worth anything?

[hollow ibex]

totally fine, just that IV has a better moveset

[muted knot]

Cause Melk has this for me

[desert hawk]

1% off on HP, throw it in the dumpster

[halcyon zephyr]

you're absolutely right. I feel ashamed for having shared this disgrace.

[terse idol]

What do I need for this?

Unarmoured instead of Flak?

Unyielding Carapace

[glacial yacht]

whats the bes columnus mk v infantry autogun perks/blessings

[torn root]

deathspitter+dumdum

eeeh lemme fix that

fire frenzy + dumdum

then deathspitter +dumdum

tbh either of those 2 with dumdum they proc differently tho

[glacial yacht]

that autogun is one of the bests right?

[torn root]

yup its the brain dead lead sprinkler

[glacial yacht]

theres so many weapons on vet im slowly getting god rolls on the good ones

[halcyon zephyr]

ads is ironsights right?

[torn root]

yes

[halcyon zephyr]

what mod lets me fix the crosshair for a custom ironsight?

[torn root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/autogun-infantry/columnus-mk-v-infantry-autogun

[torn root]

no clue i only use qol mods but not that one

i like the irons

[glacial yacht]

I guess maniac and flak are the go to on it?

[torn root]

uuuuh

also user's choice

it legit doesnt need maniac

flak 100%

[glacial yacht]

maybe carapace then

[torn root]

with onslaught carapace is a good contender

[lapis dirge]

what perks do you need for breakpoints on plasma gun

i got this and was debating just keeping

but wasn't sure i need anything for one shots

[torn root]

depending on your next blessing it might need a dump

[lapis dirge]

yeah what perks are must haves

[torn root]

t4 unyielding is beautiful

[wanton dawn]

Unyielding is keepable on plasma

[lapis dirge]

is manic unyielding

[torn root]

crit chance is a sad sight and gloryhunter is unneeded

[torn root]

unyielding carapace, maniac works i guess

[wanton dawn]

The rest is meh.

But stats are great

[torn root]

but its at 80% damage you dont need maniac

they should die easy

[lapis dirge]

yeah ill hit the gamba tmrw

not enough platsteel

[glacial yacht]

as far as blessings go. do all the weapons in a type share blessings earned? like all the infantry autos do but the infantry dont share with headhunter?

[torn root]

headhunters only share with headhunters

[wanton dawn]

Pretty much yes

[torn root]

iag share with themselves etc

[glacial yacht]

got it

[wanton dawn]

Also it is account based

So your psyker can have your vet t4 blessings on iag

[glacial yacht]

interesting

[torn root]

all you gotta do is sacrifice something to the golden throne to get them now

[glacial yacht]

now if i buy a weapon skin that fits all the braced guns on vet could i use that same skin on those guns for my zealot?

[wanton dawn]

Yes, at least for docket skins

Not sure about aquilas cosmetics though

[grand lark]

It does apply to Aquilas as well, all weap cosmetics are shared basically

For the weapons that can use them

[midnight totem]

how good is serrated blade to you guys?

[wanton dawn]

Bleh

[serene sage]

guys is this plasma rifle any good :^)

[wanton dawn]

In order to be good bleed needs to come in LARGE chunks or be applied over a LARGE area

[midnight totem]

that bad huh? lol

[cyan otter]

Anyone know how to make a good kriegsmen build for veterans?

[serene sage]

like helbore shovel?

[wanton dawn]

Problem with hellbore shovel is lack of bm

But it could work

[quasi ledge]

shattering impact instead of gets hot, but i could see the benefits of the other

[torn root]

tis servicable my good boy

[cyan otter]

Recon lasgun and shovel

[torn root]

place holder until you are blessed by thy golden throne

[cyan otter]

Sorry middle of a game-

[wanton dawn]

Get hot is better than shattering on plasma

[torn root]

debatable

one affects the entire team

[wanton dawn]

Not really no

[torn root]

literally we are debating

[quasi ledge]

he is running blaze away which would imply hip firing for max damage. each shot would be applying brittleness stacks that outway the upper end amount of extra crits

[torn root]

and you thinking it is better is an opinon

which is debatable

.>

[serene sage]

tbf it's not even 80% damage

not optimal

[wanton dawn]

Plasma can 1-2 shot all base enemies, up to 3. Brittleness would only applies to boss.

[quasi ledge]

gets hot also needs to be edged in the upper levels of heat to be effective, where shattering impact works immediately from low heat into bursts with blaze away, tl:dr ur a redditor

[wanton dawn]

Get hot allows some shot save. Brittleness do not

[quasi ledge]

1-2 shot all base with charged

[torn root]

which the plasma's purpose literally is to deal with elites,carapace and bosses since it deals with 1 with no added stats you cover the rest

[quasi ledge]

not if he is hip firing over and over

on damnation

[wanton dawn]

Nobody charge plasma

[torn root]

and with brittle it can still 2 shot im sure

8% power vs 20% brittleness

per shot

[quasi ledge]

post karnak hardmode insignia or i dont believe a word anymore

[torn root]

the math makes it pretty debatable

[wanton dawn]

Rofl, look at this dude

[torn root]

be selfish or you know dont be selfish

[wanton dawn]

Imagine me connecting on winter break to take a screenshot. Oh well, lemme check post history

[torn root]

20

20% brittleness

idk is selfish power is worth vs allowing the entire team to mollywop a monstrosity

[quasi ledge]

he is redditor

he do not understand the way of plasma

[torn root]

yeah i mean its a team game

[wanton dawn]

Sorry, dont have one with my face on it

[torn root]

but some ppl think it's a solo experience

[wanton dawn]

Only have me helping dudes

[wanton dawn]

Dude comes here, talk about brittleness on plasma and call ppl redditor and expect to be treated seriously

[torn root]

im the one talking about brittleness

lmao

[wanton dawn]

Can you even calculate brittleness dmg increase over team based on average weapon carried ?

[torn root]

man is a single player only kinda guy trying to argue if he should be helping the team or not

[wanton dawn]

So what ? Some ppl argued born leader was good with same exact argument

[wanton dawn]

Stop playing semantics

[torn root]

bro if im to take what you say seriously you have to not stat opinions as if they are facts

first and fore-most

its not semantics

its tactics

ONE IS TEAM PLAY

THE OTHER IS NOT

where is the semantics

[torn root]

imma need you to explain this on chief

because the English aint englishing no more

[wanton dawn]

Imagine saying "no semantics" then going over that kind of rant when i am not even talking about your post

[quasi ledge]

Hello sir, I just made the excel spreadsheet after many tests of plasma shots. It showed that shattering impact did way more damage over long term volleys, whereas gets hot offered only an occasional 15-17% dps spike in the same sized volley. Your statements are incorrect according to the math sir.

[wanton dawn]

At least get mad about you

[wanton dawn]

Cool, show bp

[torn root]

no there is a difference in correcting how some one says something so they make more sense and correcting someone one understanding what people are talking about

but who am if knowing the defenition of words?

[quasi ledge]

reported for asking me to show my bp

only mothers and wives should look at mans bp

[wanton dawn]

Eh

Bye then

[torn root]

please go

cause you dont understand what you are saying

like at all

[visual orbit]

I dont shoot helbores. Melk has this. Buy or pass? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1164024363310403695/1189814851720204339/image.png?ex=659f886e&is=658d136e&hm=d4fb859007b0ea1459b72ad299a23c8ec778b50759e0446416bc91e5582aa739&

[soft tundra]

Eh Pass, Helbores are very average imo

[torn root]

one for the collection

what if they buff it?

[visual orbit]

I usually default to revolver, columnus, plasma, as is

[torn root]

unless you are low on points that's a diff story

[sharp ember]

that's a negative, it has exactly 0 of what you want on one

No Respite is OK, but its mostly a holdover blessing nowadays

[visual orbit]

I have bought a lot of rank 4 blessings lately, so im restocking

[sharp ember]

because the optimal ones blessings make a much bigger impact

[torn root]

do you have no respite t4?

[wanton dawn]

Be careful about "optimal". You might be called a redditor

There is wiggle room

[torn root]

hey is mister semantics still typing?

[sharp ember]

because the tryhard* blessings

[visual orbit]

Appreciate the opinions. I wasnt a huge fan of the hellbores but ill always take a good weapon for future use potentially

if its only meh, ill pass

[wanton dawn]

Hellbore is weird. But do try using the bayonet

It is very good

And brutal momentum applies to it

[torn root]

careful good might not be an opinion in this guys eyes

[sharp ember]

do as you will, you may get better results from upgrading a grey with a similar stat array

[iron marten]

Is mk3 hb bayonet good? Never really tried it. The videos of mk1 and mk2 hb bayonet seems insane

[wanton dawn]

Nope

[iron marten]

Sad

[visual orbit]

Maybe in the future, but been too addicted to this bad boy

[wanton dawn]

It is way way worse

[torn root]

those modifyers

holy

I've been addicted to the XIIIg

[wanton dawn]

Fair. I do recommend giving bm a try in psy with bayo. To feel the diff

[visual orbit]

maybe its the old vermintide in me, but i always felt the bayos were too slow/ineffective in the psykanium

I could just be doing it wrong

i dont use hellbores

[wanton dawn]

Lemme check my video history

[wanton dawn]

Here ya go #veteran-class message

Have a bunch of other showcast around this post. For current patch

[visual orbit]

You've convinced me, maybe ill keep an eye out and try it sometime

that looks pretty solid for the random mooks that spawn behind

[wanton dawn]

Bayo has 2 weaknesses: crusher and mauler

[visual orbit]

Thats what the chainsword is for

[wanton dawn]

The rest get staggered. Even rager. Not ogryns though but high dmg nonetheless

[sharp ember]

stick it in their eye slits

[wanton dawn]

Melee bayo is my favorite non-meta build

[visual orbit]

What does it matter if it completes missions

[iron marten]

Guess I should build a mk1 hb…

[torn root]

nothing because you can use anything and still complete a mission

[visual orbit]

tis my point

[torn root]

literally had a dude prove he can do auric with greys and win

and he did

[woven geode]

which helbore is highest dps?

[wanton dawn]

Meta is about efficiency AND popularity imo. Few dude use melee bayo on top diff hence i call it non-meta

Also it is less efficient than plasma

[torn root]

someone of us DO like seeing big numbers or like watching dudes drop like flies tho

[wanton dawn]

We lost limbsplitter along the way

[torn root]

Meta only cares about efficiency

Most Effective Tactis Avaliable

[iron marten]

Hadron strives for efficiency yet she bricks weapons, curious

[torn root]

efficiently wasting our time

[iron marten]

Truey

[visual orbit]

Just tainted machine spirits on the recovered weapons, hadron is a queen

[bitter turtle]

plasma is left click spam

not charged

[woven geode]

wait really

[bitter turtle]

yes

charging is lower dps and ammo efficiency

you charge only in niche scenarios

[torn root]

^

[visual orbit]

^

[bitter turtle]

for example, hitting something behind cover or something like that

[visual orbit]

i pretty much only charge when I want one-taps

[bitter turtle]

but outside of that, left click all day

[torn root]

pretty much only charge to shoot past cover and bulwark shields

[wanton dawn]

We are talking plasma again?

[bitter turtle]

idk i saw someone say something wrong on the internet

[woven geode]

thought the point was oneshotting charged

[bitter turtle]

and i couldnt have that

[wanton dawn]

I dont think anyone argued for charged. Well, someone did try to put that in my mouth

Then again, i am a redditor so i am stupid

[torn root]

intended purpose maybe

[umbral scaffold]

Plas LMB penetrates cover

[torn root]

but the community quickly figured its not worth

[woven geode]

Better put blaze it back then

haha

sad

I put the crit chance on heat

[bitter turtle]

blaze away is the best talent on it

[woven geode]

and toughness on kill

[bitter turtle]

but

the blessings on plasma are mediocre at best aynway

it barely matters

[wanton dawn]

I tried a bit and i could not get charged to get better wall pen. Does increase target pen though, about 3 fold

From 6 maulers to 14

Still meh in practice

[bitter turtle]

well

even less reason to charge then

must have been placebo

[visual orbit]

I prefer to just set the plasma to "more pew pew" with a lot of elites

[umbral scaffold]

So pens multiple carapace enemies or did you target the torso

[wanton dawn]

Torso. I took mauler cuz easy target

Crusher is still 1 limit

[woven geode]

so lmb spam on all targets?

[bitter turtle]

basically yes

[wanton dawn]

Yup

[bitter turtle]

js

i did twins hm with plasma

never charged

even once

there is just no reason to

[woven geode]

ty all

[iron marten]

I’m too dumb to use plasma on twins hm so I just used laspistol :p

[bitter turtle]

plasma is the braindead one for twins tho

i was using column but the plasma guy on my team wanted to switch

[serene sage]

Have you seen an all yellow scoreboard?

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is not "great" against twins (boss target) but good at picking up the slacks

[serene sage]

[wanton dawn]

Also it can go through shield

[iron marten]

I would agree, but the teammates I played with refuse to acknowledge other enemies exist. So I just took aggro and kited with laspistol

[bitter turtle]

the whole point of plasma is to wipe out the other adds

in that fight

[iron marten]

Even 3 bots can spam the boss to death lmao

[torn root]

that sir is called a carry

dont let the ego get too big tho

[bitter turtle]

you just watch for the elites and mow them down as soon as they spawn

cause it has dumb cleave

[serene sage]

i died once that game, and we have people quitting and others joining

[iron marten]

Idk, maybe I just have skill issue with plasma. I had more success with a laspistol lmao

[bitter turtle]

its ok

plasma is a boring weapon anyway

[serene sage]

regardless I think I would still top the damage, but very scrappy game

[frank ledge]

vet bad for twins, 4 ogryns in the other hand

[serene sage]

got lucky clutched

[frank ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1163362097418223636/1697428832621327.gif?ex=653f4c62&is=652cd762&hm=f0098d63e985c6e567b1107f00464a35adea5d8c250073ccb076efb726dafac2&

[wanton dawn]

Oh, i found a plasma run on hm twins

https://youtu.be/Pzx05Clj1zk?si=zCS0tlWHvkDhSCc2

[iron marten]

Only thing I can bring to the table is 0 dmg taken in auric damnation

[wanton dawn]

Forgot about it

[umbral scaffold]

I have an otherwise perfect plasma but I agree just kinda not fun to use once the novelty goes away

[wanton dawn]

So yeah, plasma is good on twins but not for boss dmg specifically

[umbral scaffold]

Although I have quite a few hours and the plasma was one of the first guns I gravitated towards

[wanton dawn]

Heat limit your dps

[iron marten]

Bolter pre patch 13… I can never get tired of using it…

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is kinda more boring than bolter was.

[woven geode]

besides blaze whats the other blessing I need on plasma?

[wanton dawn]

Sorry cant say, i am gonna get flamed

[iron marten]

Just give me back instant reload on volley fire and I’ll convert back to bolter

[woven geode]

xD

[raw steppe]

Tbh the stats and perks more important

[iron marten]

Blaze Away is the really only one you need, perks are more important

[torn root]

rolls like this make me want to waste plasteel and get dissapointed

[bitter turtle]

gets hot or gloryhunter are both ok

[woven geode]

thanks

[raw steppe]

Gets hot blaze away is probably ny fav, but i would rather use ine with good stats and perks and no blessings

[wanton dawn]

Not fair dude gets a free pass

[bitter turtle]

that's because im not a redditor

:^)

[woven geode]

what perks do I need

[raw steppe]

Than chase blessings and have shitty perks and bad stats

[woven geode]

mine has shit perks

lol

[wanton dawn]

Why is it always me ?!

[umbral scaffold]

It’s a really big gun that feels familiar but exotic, powerful but precise, and now it’s just aight

[wanton dawn]

Probably the christmas hat

Or the french energy idk

[raw steppe]

I like some combination of maniac/unyielding/elites

[bitter turtle]

i was gonna advocate unyielding/maniac

[raw steppe]

But tbh just have useful stats

[bitter turtle]

but

its best just to check what actually helps breakpoints on your gun

[iron marten]

I do Unyielding and Elites, personally

[bitter turtle]

if it doesnt meaningfully reduce the number of shot to kill a target then the perk is useless

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is pretty lenient on perk as well.

[woven geode]

haha idk which blessing to rebless

[wanton dawn]

You have to pick what you want to reach. I dont think you can get more than 1 enemies bp per perk

Especially if you play focus target

[serene sage]

someone convince me out of this

[umbral scaffold]

Glory hunter and gets hot are both meta to the plasma gun tbf

[serene sage]

is this trolling?

[raw steppe]

Unyielding lets you hit a bulwark BP, maniac lets you hit a flamer crit body BP, elites lets u hit a gunner one-HS BP

[bitter turtle]

looks like my build

definitely not a troll

[wanton dawn]

Smoke gives cancer

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/eaca359b53988beb655b22be13b7c723.jpg\

[serene sage]

okay you're a troll

will report back

[woven geode]

hmm

[bitter turtle]

make sure you mod your psword into a katana

[umbral scaffold]

Your aura gives me cancer and aids

[serene sage]

oh shit i forgot the katana

[bitter turtle]

or else you will lose optimalness

[serene sage]

i would have called you a weeb but you literally can't be one

[iron marten]

Gonna say it again, give vet mk4 duelling sword 🙂

[bitter turtle]

lol

[umbral scaffold]

My personal suggestion would be to roll another plasma gun and hope you get either of those blessings or hopefully both, and then change the perks around because like you said they’re kinda poop

[bitter turtle]

i cant believe someone actually remembers the original word :^)

[woven geode]

yeah i spend all my gold trying to get a 370+ plasma

[umbral scaffold]

The rng be like that

[umbral scaffold]

Lately I’ve been running +30% dockets on my curios just to speed up the grind process

[torn root]

unless you love invis maybe not

[bitter turtle]

wow

what a boring

normal looking build

how will you throw a smoke grenade at your foot and stealth teleport behind enemies with that

hint: you cant

[torn root]

yeah you're right

[bitter turtle]

trash

[torn root]

imagine trying to be edgy and different

[umbral scaffold]

This is truly one of the builds of all time

[wanton dawn]

Smoke build are a signal. What signal idk, but a signal nonetheless

[serene sage]

i got trapped and we wiped

[bitter turtle]

should have nothin personelled the trapper

[serene sage]

i had one stealth charge left too

idk how to use it man

[bitter turtle]

me neither

every time i want to practice stealth builds

[serene sage]

😐

[bitter turtle]

i look at how much it costs and say nope

when im building the tree

😔

[serene sage]

it's just +1 no?

[wanton dawn]

Stealth is like rez shout

[bitter turtle]

compared to voc you have to route an extra node, take at least 1 extra subnode, route another wasted node if you dont need onslaught/melee on the build

[wanton dawn]

45s cd and you wish you had normal voc instead

[bitter turtle]

that's 3

and then in reality you still want nade regen

so that's 4 wasted nodes

[wanton dawn]

Vet tree got better but you still get way more passive value going main bottom middle

[bitter turtle]

maybe ill do this for some melee build

https://i.gyazo.com/f17db2661e27ae700362f58304b396d1.png

too bad i cant take tinker

[wanton dawn]

Melee without finesse bonus ? 😢

[bitter turtle]

well

i have to drop more things to get it

😔

[raw steppe]

You should prob take crit and attack speed lol

[wanton dawn]

Also, melee without 10% dmg node

[bitter turtle]

i dont think finesse bonus on the tree gives attackspeed no?

i know finesse affects aspd on SOME weapons but

look

its a stealth build

sacrifices must be made

[wanton dawn]

Am not criticizing, no flame plz am scared of fire

[bitter turtle]

fucking redditors

i swear

[wanton dawn]

HSSSSSS

https://tenor.com/view/lilo-and-stitch-disney-lilo-stitch-hiss-gif-3562813

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/185cf9d3d333955a9444b6ae77d654b9.png

are all you vultures happy now

god

[frank ledge]

nerf plasma

[bitter turtle]

im not even gonna play this

[glacial yacht]

this was wild. Agripinaa braced with power sword

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is good with any build anyway 🤡

[bitter turtle]

i dont play plasma

boring weapon

stinky

[wanton dawn]

That is not a plasma build ?

Oh...

[rigid pilot]

Uh oh, stinky

[torn root]

ngl melee kinda cringe

like why use both weapons when i can just use the crappier out of the 2

[bitter turtle]

that's right

I said it

plasma users dont shower

[torn root]

they probably don't

sadly i wouldnt know

[wanton dawn]

Eh, not fair. I would not take shower even if playing smth else

[cold shell]

Anime pfp, disregard opinion

[torn root]

tried not to comment on it

[wanton dawn]

Moth pfp, hide your christmas hat

[torn root]

dont want em to show up behind you

nothing personal

[bitter turtle]

what is an anime

[wanton dawn]

Some kind of animation but eastern

[cold shell]

They're welcome to end my tormentous existence under the most inhumane system imaginable, crapit*lism

[torn root]

that's dark

[wanton dawn]

Best i can do is a shoe slap

[serene sage]

what the fuck

[sullen thorn]

I have finally had my eyes opened to the amazing utility that the Mk VII Sapper Shovel provides

[serene sage]

mutants can grab you while in stealth????

what the fuck

[wanton dawn]

That is called being outplayed. Scrub !

[serene sage]

someone hold me

[sullen thorn]

I think the Mutant is trying to

[serene sage]

it's Japanese animation

just in case you didn't know

[torn root]

okay whats the threshhold to stop pox bursters from getting through toughness

[serene sage]

okay but

[wanton dawn]

I thought it was called h...

[torn root]

right now im at 175 +50

[serene sage]

what the actually fuck

[torn root]

not sure the exact number tho

[serene sage]

they can do that?

[lucid hinge]

spidy senses

[serene sage]

the game said tstop playing now and go to bed

who am I to disagree

the perfect combo too

mutant grab into buster into fire bomb

[torn root]

oof

[serene sage]

while I'm clearly in stealth

[torn root]

you rolled a 1 my guy

[iron marten]

The classic grabbed in flames combo

[wanton dawn]

Muties seems to have a target they rush to but grab might accept all target when in grab startup ?

[serene sage]

it happens. im salty because I was stealthing man

I WAS IN ALPHA

[bitter turtle]

thanks friend

[serene sage]

you're welcome friend

[bitter turtle]

so my thing isnt anime I see

[wanton dawn]

Thats wyg for trying to be sneaky

[serene sage]

i just got outplayed by the game

[bitter turtle]

its chinese animation since I made it myself

[wanton dawn]

Real vet shout at neighbor

[bitter turtle]

is ther ea word for chinese animation

actually

[serene sage]

#veteran-class message

[bitter turtle]

its not even animated

[serene sage]

please tell me it's not my fault

[bitter turtle]

the mutie had stealth vision goggles clearly

[iron marten]

I got used to it because of playing at 180 ping

[wanton dawn]

Ah, too many h...anime

Begone animegirl that are probably somehow boys

[iron marten]

Donghua

[serene sage]

you see, I am straight

[bitter turtle]

I intended for my character to be a boy

im glad you could tell

[serene sage]

therefore anything that I find attractive is a girl

[strange sparrow]

He was going for your team

[bitter turtle]

pretty clever for a redditor

[strange sparrow]

But you hit his collision so

Nice and Warm hug

[wanton dawn]

Mine is also a boy, believe it or not

[raw steppe]

Only while targeting someone else

[bitter turtle]

they dont usually pick you up while they're targetitng someone else

it happens though

[serene sage]

I still can't tell if your char is girl or boi

[bitter turtle]

sometimes

its a boy

its my character

[iron marten]

MrCraime, your avatar looks like he could be in a disney film

[bitter turtle]

so i literally do make the rules

[serene sage]

so what you are saying is
the mutant, the buster, the bomber all targeted someone else
and I am the person who paid for it all

[wanton dawn]

You take that back before i spit on yah

[strange sparrow]

yes

[iron marten]

I was trying to compliment!

[serene sage]

mulan villain looking ass

[strange sparrow]

Usually if it's targetting you, it Confused when you go invi

[wanton dawn]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK BEFORE I FOLD IN TEAR

Srsly though, it is from the king and the mockingbird

[raw steppe]

Welcome to capitalism

Enjoy ur stay

[strange sparrow]

Im unironically playing hellBore Las without charge

[bitter turtle]

oh my god

[strange sparrow]

This gun just ain't that great against a lot of stuff with charge (Just overkill)

[wanton dawn]

Old movie. Obvious inspiration to the castle in the sky robot. Also french

[bitter turtle]

i literally found you

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/11/21/arts/21KINGMOCK/KINGMOCK-superJumbo.jpg

[wanton dawn]

Yup

[bitter turtle]

its literally you

why is your neck so long

[serene sage]

don't body shame

i look like a fish

[wanton dawn]

I dont know if word is authorized here

[bitter turtle]

i wasn't trying to shame 😔

[serene sage]

a cute fish

but a fish

[iron marten]

This the same energy as when I called Tintin, French, in front of my Belgian friend

[serene sage]

say it in French

we can google translate 👍

[wanton dawn]

It is the same

[serene sage]

[serene sage]

okay then say it in the French accent

[wanton dawn]

Lets put it that way: this is king charles 2+3=5+3=8+8=16 from "tackicardie"

[bitter turtle]

i know some french

[wanton dawn]

Chances are his family is a circle

[serene sage]

one time I talked to 2 Russians, the word casino came up, one of them can't understand when I said casino, so dude looked to the other dude
the other dude repeated the word casino in Russian accent and they immediately got it

[bitter turtle]

google translate 79 in french

and then play the text to voice

that's the most relevant french

[iron marten]

French literal translation for 80 being 40x2, like why

Or 4x20

Either or

[wanton dawn]

Idk, why imperial unit is a thing

We all have our quirks

[serene sage]

i am sorry but i will engage in national stereotypes

actually, I do have a legitimate grievance with the French

[wanton dawn]

English ppl complaining about word sounding different from writing is kinda rich

[serene sage]

because my name has like 3 vowels next to each other

but you pronounce it like one

quite literally because of the French

[iron marten]

They’re Their There

[wanton dawn]

Pterodactyl

[serene sage]

the pee is silent

from now on, to protest, i will pronouce hour has hound-er

[wanton dawn]

As for oiseaux, "oi" is pronunced like "oie" - goose and "eau" is literally pronunced like water. "S" become a "z" sound before a vowel if not doubled and "x" is plural mark for word in "-eau" without exception to my knowledge

[serene sage]

it is very French of you also to defend the word oiseaux

[bitter turtle]

how to prooounce

soixante dix neuf

[wanton dawn]

"Imagine dire du bien des Anglais" 🇨🇵

[serene sage]

Imagine speaking English?

[wanton dawn]

I literally do mudkip

Also you are called "Gobou" in democracy birthplace

Which kinda mean "mud eater"

[bitter turtle]

wdym

i thought democracy was HOMEGROWN AMERICAN

[wanton dawn]

Oh, we forgive american for not knowing they have a short History

[serene sage]

Fun fact Europe was founded when Texas Ranger Walker rode his horse through the Atlantic in 1848. He named it Eastern USA, or EU for short.

[bitter turtle]

silly french peoiple thinking they invented revolutions

everyone knows there was no revolutions before america liberated the world

[serene sage]

Wait wait

Are you American?

[umbral scaffold]

This chats going to get spicy

[iron marten]

Greeks invented pizza and democracy (somewhat)

[serene sage]

It won't

[bitter turtle]

im just shitposting

[wanton dawn]

Iam not

[bitter turtle]

and i have citizenship in america and japan

[wanton dawn]

Or am i ?

[serene sage]

Seize this man

[iron marten]

Classic French, starting a revolution out of nothing

[wanton dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588

[serene sage]

Am I American?

[serene sage]

Oh yeah why aren't you in Tokyo rn o.o

[bitter turtle]

leaving in 5 hours actually

lol

just playing monster hunter before I go

[serene sage]

Damn no one is gonna shitpost here

I'll miss you 😔

[bitter turtle]

I'll shitpost from tokyo

[iron marten]

Just be awake at JP times

[serene sage]

I'll have to be here with the Frenchman

[wanton dawn]

Dont worry, i might post a plasma guide someday

[serene sage]

See

[bitter turtle]

step 1 : dont shower

[serene sage]

[bitter turtle]

gottem

those stinky bastards

[serene sage]

Okay but, like, my hair is actually so fucking fabulous

If I don't shower for 2 days

[iron marten]

No one has started a draft with the vet equivalent of ogrynomicon aye

[serene sage]

Vets are contentious bunch

[bitter turtle]

someone tried earlier

i forgot what happened to it

[serene sage]

We will tear to shred whatever they post

[wanton dawn]

Well...

[iron marten]

I just play whatever works for me lol

How dare I not take desperado in all my builds

[wanton dawn]

One or two hour earlier i said "get hot better than shattering"

Now i got a new title

[bitter turtle]

and now look at you

resident redditor

[iron marten]

FatShark ID to redditor

[serene sage]

I'm a League player

Apparently I'm a little toxic

[iron marten]

Pls tell me you don’t live in NA West as a League player

[serene sage]

East Coast

[iron marten]

Nice

[serene sage]

Not US citizen though

[bitter turtle]

i reinstaleld league after almost 10 years of not playing it recently

i wanted to play gwen

[wanton dawn]

Eww, bet you play anivia mid

[serene sage]

But trying to work my way there

[bitter turtle]

then i tried her out in a bot game and uninstalled the game again

[serene sage]

I'm a Vi main

[bitter turtle]

thanks for listening to my blogpost

[iron marten]

Good luck!

[serene sage]

Quitting League is easy, I've done it 5 times already.

[winter widget]

Anything that Sire Melk has worth getting?

[serene sage]

Level 4 blessings

[wanton dawn]

I quitted about... 8 years ago ? Give or takes

[bitter turtle]

usually just level 4 blessings, or if the moons align

a salvageable weapon

[iron marten]

I got a pretty good revolver from melk

[muted knot]

It's personalized

[serene sage]

I spent a decade of my life playing that game 😔

[stiff pasture]

What do we think chat?

Ammo isn’t great though

[serene sage]

Workable replace hit and run and reload imo

[bitter turtle]

the last chapmion i remember being released

before i quit

was ekko

so actually more like 8 years ya

too

just checked the release dates

[stiff pasture]

What do I replace them with?

[wanton dawn]

I joined when maokai was released

[serene sage]

When you too quit Darktide, come back to league

[bitter turtle]

i started playing when mordekaiser was released

so that means

[iron marten]

ty melk

[serene sage]

Maniac and Scatter

[bitter turtle]

i wasted 6 years on that game

[serene sage]

Honestly actually

Maybe replace both blessings

[bitter turtle]

league made me too toxic

i would yell at my husband for not ganking for me

i was that toxic toplaner

you know the one

[serene sage]

[stiff pasture]

Huh? How is that possible

[wanton dawn]

I stopped playing after reaching diamond if mah memory serves me right

[muted knot]

League just does that to people, there's no shame in it

[iron marten]

Oh I already changed it, I can get the older screenie before I did

[serene sage]

I wish I had a partner who yells at me for not ganking

[winter widget]

This any good?

[wanton dawn]

Took me 6 years

[bitter turtle]

when we started playing

he played soraka for 300 games

i question how

[serene sage]

Based?

[bitter turtle]

nothing but soraka

[wanton dawn]

Soraka got me to plat

[bitter turtle]

and not AP soraka with the starfall shenanigans

[serene sage]

Is your husband single?

[stiff pasture]

Wait 4 is 80 percent?

[bitter turtle]

he might be

[iron marten]

Yeah basically

[stiff pasture]

I thought it was lower then that

[bitter turtle]

if im just a figment of your imagination

[serene sage]

4 Should be 60% post nerf?

[stiff pasture]

Please no

[iron marten]

This was before they changed it to 60%

[stiff pasture]

Aw

[bitter turtle]

ya

[iron marten]

I can still one shot crushers with it so

[bitter turtle]

it was nerfed last patch

[iron marten]

[stiff pasture]

Booo

[bitter turtle]

its still strong as heck

dont cri

[muted knot]

Didn't they also nerf surgical ?

[serene sage]

https://tenor.com/view/dominic-sherwood-dont-go-dont-leave-stay-gif-13895726

[wanton dawn]

Nah

Just different timing between guns

[bitter turtle]

you know what was my favorite thing in league

magewick

it was like a cooler vladimir

[muted knot]

Hahahaha

Press q for a new healthbar

[serene sage]

Ew

I hate both of em

[muted knot]

That's it then

[iron marten]

Insulting French language segues into League 💨

[serene sage]

Would you like to know something about Pokemon?

[bitter turtle]

its not the vaporeon thing right

yes

[iron marten]

Only Pokémon I played was Red, so sure

[muted knot]

Vaporeon is the most fuckable pokemon

[bitter turtle]

no that's lilligant

i mean what

[iron marten]

pls

[rough palm]

Yo

[wanton dawn]

Ravioli is my favorite pokemon

[muted knot]

@bitter turtle bro what

[serene sage]

An uncomfortable amount of Pokemons would pass the Harkness test.

[serene sage]

What

[iron marten]

Harkness test?

[bitter turtle]

i like how you said nothing in this chat

until someone mentioned fucking pokemon

[serene sage]

...

[wanton dawn]

Am not goggling that. Describe it

In french

[trail quartz]

xD

[serene sage]

It's nothing serious

[iron marten]

I never had nintendo products when I grew up ok…

[serene sage]

Just google Harkness test

[iron marten]

I was a playstation kid…

[bitter turtle]

Le test de Harkness fait référence à un ensemble hypothétique de lignes directrices selon lesquelles il serait permis d'avoir des relations sexuelles avec une créature fictive non humaine.

i did it

[muted knot]

Miss me with that french shit

[serene sage]

Ew French

[trail quartz]

i sacrafice myself and do it

[wanton dawn]

... why i knrw before you wrote it

Ffs

[manic summit]

First thing I see in this chat

[iron marten]

K, wish I never knew this

[muted knot]

I'm glad you accepted your new title

[manic summit]

I will throw myself before the pox hounds now

[serene sage]

What the fuck are y'all Puritans?

[trail quartz]

i imagined the worst but its ok

[serene sage]

It's like not even that bad

[iron marten]

Haha

[bitter turtle]

its canon even

https://legendsoflocalization.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/marrying-pokemon-e.png

[wanton dawn]

A title is earned. I will brandish it with pride

[trail quartz]

oh no

[wanton dawn]

We ALL saw that

[muted knot]

I would too

[iron marten]

Pls no

[trail quartz]

oh no..

[bitter turtle]

JP text for pokemon references ppl marrying pokemon in the past

vaporeon copypasta is literally canon

[wanton dawn]

Wait wait wait... are we becoming zealot chat ?

[iron marten]

[wanton dawn]

Oh god

[rough palm]

I just tuned in

[iron marten]

Foxhope only had to mention pokemon once and it devolves to this…

[serene sage]

Yuri, Justine or whatever your name is
I would Lopunny but Vaporeon?

[wanton dawn]

Quick, someone mention smth about plasma

[bitter turtle]

its stinky

[wanton dawn]

Fair

[bitter turtle]

Sorry I'm a mono-grass trainer

[iron marten]

Plasma blessings are mediocre!

[muted knot]

Hear me out...

[wanton dawn]

Oh no...

[trail quartz]

i dont know, do they rly like snorlax that much?

[wanton dawn]

ABANDON SHIP

[trail quartz]

xD arrr

[vivid bolt]

Yall will never be zealot chat smh

[vivid bolt]

Don’t worry about that

[rough palm]

You’re all wrong

It’s Gothita

[manic summit]

It's literally two potatoes with arms, a tail, some hair and a bill

[serene sage]

Plasma fist is the signature move of Zeraora which absolutely looks like someone's fursona

[trail quartz]

into the immaterium i want

[serene sage]

Tell me I'm wrong

[iron marten]

Into the black ships you go

[bitter turtle]

https://assets.pokemon.com/assets/cms2/img/pokedex/full/763.png

mono grass

[muted knot]

Yes

[serene sage]

What, never fucked a potato befoee?

[serene sage]

Would

[bitter turtle]

They knew what they were doing

[manic summit]

A very puntable witch (almost missed my phone autocorrecting that to mountable)

[midnight mortar]

Someone let me know if the upcoming cosmetics rotation in a couple hours features that Scion helmet.

[manic summit]

Despite being German, no

[rough palm]

Your phone is trying to guide you, son

[wanton dawn]

Pokemon having more gender difference than dt skins smh

[serene sage]

Last Pokemon thing I'll post

[manic summit]

My phone is being corrupted and shall be cleansed in holy fire at the nearest opportunity

[serene sage]

I love this Pokemon design so much

[vivid bolt]

If fatshark makes a good female skin I’d be very fucking happy

[wanton dawn]

...define good

[vivid bolt]

As in

Something a female soldier would wear