veteran-class

[strange sparrow]

[fiery lagoon]

The amount of downs and deaths from friendly fire will match the 40k universe.

[icy orchid]

so BM + PC is best traits for powersword?

[sharp ember]

it wouldn't be as oppressive if there were other team-ammo things accessible to other classes

[strange sparrow]

Always has been

[slate sleet]

giving everyone infinite toughness, nearly 50% more damage against marked targets and picking people up in like half a sec is so fun

[pearl sapphire]

You got power cycler yet?

[sharp ember]

but yeah i'll greed not taking ammo aura for fun if i can save a point

[strange sparrow]

Just showing how much Psword im grinded

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-rain-dead-inside-sadness-gif-3316941

[tall torrent]

Or PC + sunder

[icy orchid]

is it worth grinding for t4 PC?

[slate sleet]

it really isnt

[fiery lagoon]

why are you keeping all of that

[strange sparrow]

IM 17 PSWORD IN

THAT"S HOW FUCK I AM IN GRINDING IT

[sharp ember]

t4 PC is that good, just be lucky, don't be unlucky, skill issue

[strange sparrow]

Reminding my luck fuckin suck

[slate sleet]

have people not tried the new shovel or whats going on

its literally better in every way

[fiery lagoon]

Powerswords are just overrated as hell but its easy to use so why not

[strange sparrow]

I didn't pick Veteran to use a shovel

[slate sleet]

m1 into crowds

special into heavy attack to 1 shot everything including ogryn

[strange sparrow]

And yes I tried it, it's great

[sharp ember]

new shovels are fun, but it's not "literally" better

shovels don't kill 5 trash per swing

[slate sleet]

they stun and kill everything

[icy orchid]

my main reason for playing vet over zealot. If I wanted to melee I would go play VT2

[strange sparrow]

Psword 6 feel harder than most weapon imo

I can't get it to properly charge / slide

[fiery lagoon]

ps6 is the easiest ps tho

[sharp ember]

good pswords kill hordes faster than they can run towards you

[white minnow]

can the shovel hit the one-shot bp on bruisers

[strange sparrow]

The "Charge" momentum stop is annoying

[white minnow]

pswords have their weaknesses, but i don't think they're that bad

[fiery lagoon]

They were never bad, literally everyone would use them because they are effective against almost everything especially if there's someone else spacing for you

[pearl sapphire]

Chainsword XIII superiority

[sharp ember]

not without single target attacks

[crude ermine]

Honestly I've gone from vet-psyker-zel for the next month-vet-back to psyker

[sharp ember]

strikedowns

[crude ermine]

We're currently at psykers

[cinder wadi]

if crit was swapped with mobility it would be a god roll wouldn't it

[fiery lagoon]

All the other vet melee are awesome in their own right

[crude ermine]

Yeah

[white minnow]

i'm on the vet/zealot grindset after psyker

[crude ermine]

Because then you'd swap to surgi and flak

[cinder wadi]

wait why flak?

[pearl sapphire]

I’d honestly use it anyway

[slate sleet]

honestly any melee is good on vet because we get insane dmg with melee for some reason

kinda funny

[crude ermine]

It's my pref

[cinder wadi]

ah oke

[crude ermine]

It could literally be anything

[pearl sapphire]

After changing to carapace and unyielding

[fiery lagoon]

I love my le funny swords

[slate sleet]

i used to love cata swords but now i honestly dont even need to parry anything but a boss running at me

game is too ez

[fiery lagoon]

just repurpose them

[slate sleet]

the mk4 still owns

if they ever make maelstorm actually hard it will be the go to wep

[fiery lagoon]

my mk4 claw now deletes trash mobs a lot faster

[crude ermine]

I just use the shovel mk 3 and powersword number 3+3

[fiery lagoon]

There's almost no reason to use other PS besides 6

[icy orchid]

PC makes the PS feel so much better

[fiery lagoon]

You're doubling if not tripling your powered attacks so yes

Its practically mandatory on all PS, else you're better off using another weapon.

[icy orchid]

bolter + ps is just a classic

[nova bane]

Got a Revolver with one modification left, and Speedload 3 and Point Blank 4. Should I replace one with Gloryhunter 4?

[strange sparrow]

Is it me or this map is just cursed or something

[nova bane]

I blame the bots

[strange sparrow]

Walk into it, everyone just bad in general

[oblique belfry]

since when do people kick others from heresy difficoulty

[terse idol]

It just makes sense saddly

Unless they give longlas to zealot which

Melta is practically

A shotgun

For anti armour

[vernal zinc]

Wait

I had a idea which could work

[serene sage]

Give it to zels then

[terse idol]

What if they gave it to both of us

[vernal zinc]

True

Also

Volkite

[terse idol]

[torn needle]

What's y'alls fav melee weps currently?

[mortal shore]

The trash-roll MKIV Chainsword that serves as my sole decent melee weapon because I blew all my money on getting a Columnus.

[patent swift]

MK VII Shovel.

[vague elm]

knife

[hazy basin]

anyone got a good veteran steam guide they could drop?

[sharp ember]

chainaxes and spike shovels

so versatile

[hearty panther]

knife

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-roberto-futurama-knives-nuts-gif-18076002

[crude ermine]

I'd replace one with handcannon

Since you practically get up to 60% rending

[serene solar]

Mg Ia Lasgun blessings/ perks to go for?

[wraith locust]

I also historically have bad luck with silo cluster pigs

The staircase at the very start that leads into that open area

With monstrosities on the stair case

Is just awful

[vernal zinc]

Volkite would be so cool to get in game

They find an STC for a good one on tertium and put it into production

[muted knot]

What even would be the point of volkite ?

Like what's the point

A one tap everything weapon ?

[outer wolf]

Guys, recommended blessings on a kantrael laspistol?

dum-dum maybe?

[torn needle]

All those weapons listed and no one said power sword

[nova bane]

Don't have hand Cannon yet unfortunately

[torn needle]

[fossil basalt]

Dumdum, infernus if boss damage

[outer wolf]

and other than infernus?

[torn needle]

I might try out chaxe next, looks fun

[outer wolf]

ghost?

[torn needle]

Hard to justify getting locked in place with the special though

[muted knot]

Powersword cringe

[sharp ember]

it's so much better now that you can dodge cancel out of sawing if you get scared

[fossil basalt]

Ghost if shooter clear, raking fire if sneaky, reassuringly accurate if toughness tanky

[torn needle]

Which chaxe is better?

[torn needle]

I love me power sword simple as

[fossil basalt]

Only thing really important on laspistol is dumdum

[sharp ember]

they're both good now, but i think the new mk12 chainaxe is easier to use

sweep lights and sticky strikedown heavies

[torn needle]

You run thrust right?

[outer wolf]

Thanks mate, will go dumdum + ghost then

[amber vapor]

how is Graia and Columnus Braced Autogun now after the patch? Are they worth using over Agripinaa?

[sharp ember]

I use Thunderous + Bloodletter, kills crushers in 1 revved heavy with perk, haven't checked without perk

[fossil basalt]

And as usual, +maniac high priority, then +flak

[fossil basalt]

Iirc agrip is the bad one now

[vernal zinc]

Kinda in lore it was meant to be a heavy hitter that both the space marines and solar Auxilia used not usually a one tap but it would be pretty effective against the monsters and if they want to add more dangerous beastys it would be a good weapon to have

[sharp ember]

bloodletter ticks build brittleness stacks and amplify your sawing and bleed damage

[vernal zinc]

It’s like the Melta but longer range

[fossil basalt]

One of them is bad, two of them are great

[amber vapor]

wait, Agrip braced is bad now?

[sharp ember]

no, agri is still good

probably still the best because of its Stopping Power stat and +1 cleave mass

[strange sparrow]

Yea usually that's where the run end

[sharp ember]

but graia and columnus are very solid now, nice to run with Onslaught

[strange sparrow]

because poeple can't kite a chaos spawn

[opal loom]

Kite? You mean hold Block and leap backwards away from the grab?

[sharp ember]

agri braced bullets still knock stuff down super easily too, while having slow recoil bloom

[mortal shore]

When I have managed to put together a proper melee weapon I kinda wanna give one of the Shotguns a try, anyone got time to give me a brief overview of which ones decent/good and how to set one up?

[strange sparrow]

The grab bypass block, so you just block + dodge

Most of the attack are pretty simple as you can dodge them

Or just dont do anything in general

Stil no power Cycler

[glass vessel]

is it good ?

[strange sparrow]

18 Psword in

[torn needle]

Post power swords

[muted knot]

Pretty sure it is much more violent than a melta and I personally also don't really see melta as a weapon that really fits the game, don't get me wrong I'd love to see a volkite weapon but I'd also love to see grav weapons

[strange sparrow]

Still no Psword Cycler

[torn needle]

[muted knot]

Yikes

[torn needle]

That's so tragic

[vernal zinc]

I think grav weapons fit less that meltas a melta is a more realistic weapon that we would see in the hands of guardsmen tbh

[strange sparrow]

18 x 2k Plasteel

[strange sparrow]

That's like what 36k Plasteel?

I mean more like 1.5k per Psword so

[mortal shore]

Jesus...

[strange sparrow]

27k Plasteel

I grind Auric V Mael, average 600 plasteel per 30 minutes

[glass vessel]

VI sword are better ?

[torn needle]

You will get it eventually, keep up the grind

[torn needle]

Generally es

[strange sparrow]

45 hours of plasteel grind

Ded inside

[mortal shore]

Your suffering is making me clutch my autogun that much tighter.

[glass vessel]

so going for gun are not worth ?

[torn needle]

You need a gun too

Idk what you mean

[torn needle]

Your christmas gift is a cycler 4 god roll ps6

[glass vessel]

I should focus on farming sword instead of weaponn

since its OP

[muted knot]

Fair i was just thinking about weaponry that could be cool

[mortal shore]

Can I pass it off to Nahcies instead? Y'know in the spirit of the holidays and all?

[torn needle]

Sure, go for it

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-frieren's-funeral-frieren-at-the-funeral-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-gif-14321694336963260870

Im going to sleep for the day

4am grind since 2pm

Dogshitgame

[lofty lintel]

Wow

I got pretty lucky with my ps6

[opal loom]

neat

[lofty lintel]

Had the same one forever

Found PC4 on a trash ps3 melk had

Extracted and slapped it on my power sword

[strange sparrow]

I can already feel it, the moment I got PC4

They're gonna nerf PowerSword

[torn needle]

Does it even need a nerf?

[strange sparrow]

The ability to clean hordes are unparalleled imo

[torn needle]

Shh it's totally balanced

[crude ermine]

It's actually really bad and deserves a buff

2 even

Like make it comedically large

Moonlight greatesord

[frank ether]

very balans

[idle swallow]

That'll be the nerf, powercycler increases melee range of charged hits instead of allowing multiple uses

[strange sparrow]

What do you mean rev up

What do you mean doing damage after tick

[torn needle]

[crude ermine]

That would definitely be a hurtful nerf

[serene orbit]

Santa was kind to me :>

[torn needle]

Those rolls damn

Super rare to hit good stuff on a rare one like that

[sharp ember]

ah, perfection

[serene orbit]

I raised it from a wee grey

[neat sluice]

Hey, should i put rampage IV or BM III on my power sword

[torn needle]

I've grown to love carapace+unyield more on my power sword

[serene orbit]

BM is the best choice, imo

[serene orbit]

yeah, gonna test this out and see if I need a bit more on carapace or unyield

[strange sparrow]

BM does better if you just hit head

[wet elk]

guys

[midnight mortar]

BM provides far more mileage.

[serene orbit]

that's a heavy shovel

[torn needle]

Two shot crusher bp is very nice, and unyield makes it a pretty decent bosser

[wet elk]

is this good on a shovel?

[serene orbit]

That's like, a vet using an ogryn shovel

[neat sluice]

Mark IV or Mark III of the variant powerswords?

[hybrid barn]

Which perks are real good on a gun?

[neat sluice]

I use mine for maniac horde clear

[torn needle]

6

[neat sluice]

why is 6 better than 3?

[strange sparrow]

Move set

[torn needle]

Still amazing clear while having way better single target

[crude ermine]

I just slapped maniflak onto mine and called it a day

[hybrid barn]

Is this good?

[torn needle]

Because of the push attack

[crude ermine]

But the the shovel and sword do fight over my melee slot

[strange sparrow]

You get access to a single target push attack against Cara/Flak

Then 2 light swing that is perfect horizontal +1 misaligned horizontal

Heavy swing that is “top down” against boss

[torn needle]

Push attack into the strike down light is very good

Big deeps

Two shot hs anything except for bosses if you have bm and cara

[hazy basin]

question about the skill "field improvisation"

do you get grenades from every ammuntion box?

[atomic zephyr]

i thought it was just crates

[idle dirge]

Just the deployable crates

But field improv applies to all teammates as long as there's a vet on the team that has it, as far as I know

[hazy basin]

nice, thanks for the info!

[odd summit]

ayo?

[hazy basin]

any good steam guides you guys could recommend?

[slender turtle]

Until the vets get their own dedicated guid like psyker and ogryn, not really but asking around vet mains here in this chat about stuff.

and stay away from click baitey bullshit videos

[void fjord]

How much damage does a crit do? Like is there a guide to figure out what numbers I could be hitting?

[odd summit]

afaik unless the weapon has a dedicated crit damage or finesse stat the default is 25%

someone correct me if i'm wrong

[void fjord]

Is that crit chance or crit damage?

I'm trying to figure out damage, I just put Gets Hot on a plasma gun and I'm trying to figure out what number I might see

[odd summit]

Crit damage

[hearty panther]

There's no default that I know of

Everything just has their own finesse stats

[void fjord]

Cool, thanks

[hearty panther]

Check the damage tables always

[void fjord]

Yeah, I just don't see it when inspecting the plasma

Nothing about crit under damage on Plasma

[hearty panther]

And it has a 50% bonus iirc, though that might not be the exact number

Braced autoguns also don't but they'll have a bonus that's like 10% or lower even, idre

[wanton dawn]

Plasma is like, 25%

[hearty panther]

Is it 25? Been a while

[wanton dawn]

Crit additional bonus is about 25% more damage. Same for headshot (plasma)

[paper flax]

I'm pretty sure what you're thinking of is the default multiplier for hitting a weakspot, finesse is its own damage multiplier also applied on weakspot hits

[hearty panther]

Ah you right

[paper flax]

So weapons without a finesse stat probably dont benefit from finesse damage and only benefit from weakspot damage

[thorn yoke]

Not to be confused with the finesse gained from the Focus keystone

[paper flax]

Weakspot + finesse + crit = instakilling crusher on heresy

[wanton dawn]

Whats heresy ?

I only know damnation bp

[frank ether]

ppl care about heresy bp?

[paper flax]

Heresy is that thing you play when you dont want to wait for damnation queue times

[wanton dawn]

Found the australian

[frank ether]

I'd rather solo damnation

bots are gonna beat heresy teammates anyhow

they can kill ragers

[idle swallow]

9/10 times I queue for aurics I have to wait the full matchmake search time before it throws me in a lobby by myself

At this point I just do normal damnation so I don't gotta wait all day for a match with humans

[wanton dawn]

Found the other australian

[junior needle]

Yeah it's region based

[wanton dawn]

APAC region amiright ?

[junior needle]

Watching my teammates pov is always interesting

I have a psyker who refuses to use smite on the big horde with crushers in it that's pressuring him and another teammate

And a veteran who uses heavies on the ps6

[wanton dawn]

I never criticize them cuz am dead

[junior needle]

Also the psyker won't use the sword special on his deimos

I only give friendly advice on occasion

[wanton dawn]

I dont, i only tell what patrol guard me

[junior needle]

I died from a trapper not getting staggered from me stabbing it in the chest

[wanton dawn]

Or "dont rez on fire plz"

[junior needle]

And then not getting picked up by the infiltrate vet

Oh look, they lost

[wanton dawn]

I once got trapped cuz chsword special doesnt stun

[sharp ember]

hyperarmor trapper

[junior needle]

Trapper bullshit is basically the only thing that downs me anymore

That and sudden mystery hitbox sliding overheads

[wanton dawn]

Trapper threat level is like the bell curve meme

[sharp ember]

this + teammate who won't spend 0.5s to pick you up

and will leave you on the floor to keep swinging their sword

run ender right there

[crude ermine]

Open net to free player, trapper gets to experience the Chicago lifestyle

[thorn yoke]

And then sometimes they do revive you just in time to catch that mauler overhead

[serene sage]

merry christmas, soldiers

[junior needle]

My favorite is when the projectile visibly misses me but then I get magnetized to it

[slender turtle]

tbh, dogs a re a bigger threat just for how buggy and bullshit their animations are

[terse idol]

Just gotta listen to that souund

Which... sometimes is buggy

[serene sage]

this is hearbreakingly close to greatness

[terse idol]

I haven't personally had problems with dogs, more flamers that I couldn't hear the warning of

[odd summit]

that first target does kind of hurt i agree

[slender turtle]

Its not the sound. I can see them, i can see them doing a leap, i dodge and then they lock onto me like a crusher wanting to ruin my run

[terse idol]

😌

[odd summit]

it's definitely trappers for me (i am on the far left end of the bell curve)

[north raptor]

worth?

im a noob to shotguns

[sharp ember]

very solid, Fullbore to use with slug shots, Flak + Unarmored are relevant but Unarmored can be Maniac

not sure if Maniac is necessary to 1-slug flamers in the head

[frank ether]

have you noticed bash input not working properly on some foes lately?

is it just me?

[sharp ember]

but definitely helps on dreg ragers or using normal shells in a pinch

[frank ether]

I struggle with trappers, dogs getting hit and not being staggered

also sometimes I'll have to push a burster 3 times for it to react

my character has skill issues

[untold mulch]

Finally took the jump to T5

Even when told otherwise, I expected worse

Allies still kinda dogshit

[frank ether]

auric 5?

[untold mulch]

Nah, normal

[frank ether]

mm allies dont get better till you play aurics and even then its a dice roll

its literally dependant on the alignment of the planet

[untold mulch]

[celest vine]

If you want to win consistently

[frank ether]

no I'm not joking certain hours get better players lmao

[celest vine]

Make friendsp

[untold mulch]

I play with a friend so he covers my back and I his

[frank ether]

also this

I know being social is big scary

but it does wonders for your winrate

[untold mulch]

but the other 2 are at the whims of Tzeentch

[celest vine]

Warhammer fan try to be social challenge

(very hard)

[untold mulch]

And goddamn, I have no idea how you guys use Autoguns without Exec Stance

The spread is ridiculous

[frank ether]

I use autoguns so I don't need exec lol

[untold mulch]

I just, get so much spread on them, that only way I can aim comfortably is with Exec Stance

But I ain't gonna use that on a T5 lmao

[frank ether]

the other two abilities are consistently better at carrying random teams

[woven geode]

can helbore use Deadshot?

[untold mulch]

Yes

[woven geode]

Nice

[frank ether]

yes but I advice you to not do it

[rancid shale]

Awww yeah, its all coming together.

[untold mulch]

Infiltrate is carry hours

[woven geode]

25% crit chance is dope xD

[junior needle]

You've been playing heresy this whole time?

[frank ether]

so is having stamina to sprint though

[junior needle]

Bash as in the push?

[frank ether]

yea

[untold mulch]

Yep,

Not for a lack of skill, but for a lack of just motivation.

Friend got bored of T4 though

So we ended up going fuck it

[frank ether]

if you told me so I would play damnation with you

[winter widget]

I've been noticing how not a lot of people use the boltgun

[untold mulch]

But my problem still remains that I like no gun

Everything feels wrong for some reason or another

Brain issue oh well

[untold mulch]

Ehh, in my case is the same reason as Helbore

the time to pull is

[terse shell]

plasma feels pretty right

[untold mulch]

Plasma feels good, but my compulsive reload habits curse me

[winter widget]

I can sort of understand that it takes a hot minute to pull it out, though it does make sense why

[untold mulch]

Been awhile since I played Arma 3 or any tac shooter so I slipped back into arcade habits

Second of breathing
Reload

[untold mulch]

Yeah, but in Bolter case

the amount of ammo and reload time

for the damage?

ehhh, I don't consider worth the tradeoff

[terse shell]

just think of your plasma vent as a quick reload, you only have 2 "magazine" in a plasma anyway

[winter widget]

I don't necessarily have the problem with the reload much but then again I pay attention to the reload stat

[untold mulch]

Would need to roll a good one

and oh boi

When did Fatshark came from the vacations?

[midnight mortar]

They have a mandatory 25 day minimum vacation.

[terse idol]

Yeah unless the burster is agro onto you

Just 0 reaction

I kinda wished FS would make it so they just stagger from any shoves

[untold mulch]

Mhmm, but didn't remember when it was

[terse idol]

The first tiiiime

[frank ether]

best part is last time this happened someone told me I need to be burster trained

[terse idol]

Me as I go galaxy brain, go infiltrate as soon as I hear the pox burster
Find it
Shove it
Nothing

[untold mulch]

I use Infiltrate to go the opposite direction

Is someone else problem

[junior needle]

Regular t5 is pretty easy, also way more efficient for materials and coins

[untold mulch]

Mhmm, noticed already

[frank ether]

I actually found regular t5 easier for leveling than t4

[junior needle]

I always advise a switch to damnation as soon as the difficulty becomes manageable for someone

[untold mulch]

Anyways been a few days

Hellgun when

[terse idol]

I just want the scion helmet

[untold mulch]

My work is done for today

[terse idol]

ANYTHING

[untold mulch]

Shame they are gonna go pay a 1/4 of the game for it

[spark helm]

Hope yall good in vet chat

[terse idol]

I mean I gave up my soul and got

ALL the Krieg stuff

[untold mulch]

[junior needle]

Seems to have been working for me, but I rarely push as I play ogryn and zealot mostly now

[terse idol]

Just...

One more

[viscid vessel]

So, they actually arm the bomb shortly before jumping. If you push it too early, it won’t have it armed yet.

[untold mulch]

At best, I may think of it if the Hellgun design is added alongside and is well done

[terse idol]

Yeah I knoow

I just wished they

Fell over

When I shove them while in infil

[untold mulch]

Also

CHestplate

where is it

Where is the knight style chestplate

[terse idol]

They need to just fall over if I push them

[serene sage]

banger game 👍

[crude ermine]

1 boss kill, smh should've gone for 2

Manipulate the game engine

[woven geode]

does deadshot deactivate if I run out of stamina?

[serene sage]

so true i shouldve spawn more bosses

[serene sage]

unfortunately no

[woven geode]

oih

[serene sage]

well it deactivates without stam

[woven geode]

wait so

if I ADS long enough it deactivates yes?

[serene sage]

yes

run stamina curios as a fix

if you run 2x3stamina you would have it actiave almost always when ADSing

[woven geode]

what kinda curios

+2 stamina?

[serene sage]

3x3stamina means turn your brain off

there are +3 staminas

it's rare but not that rare

you will need to check the brunt shop often though

[midnight totem]

what level do you have to be to get transcendent gear?

[serene sage]

just get 2 +3 stamina curios

dunno tbh

[woven geode]

not sure any of this is better than my voice of command plasma gun build lol

(using a helbore rn)

[junior needle]

Once you get to zero, you don't get any effect, but it will keep draining your stamina.

[void gyro]

All I want for Christmas is my plasma gun is to work, every time I want to play I remember that bug has been in the game for a month and FS has not even acknowledged it afaik

[hardy ember]

And all I want for Christmas is hellguns

[flint garden]

350k dockets and not a single psword over 365 power

thank you santa

[woeful galleon]

Merry Christmas little one

[serene sage]

how do I go about fixing this?

[eternal sable]

what the fuck

thanks fatshark

i guess we lose 🙂

[untold mulch]

Just ask nicely

[serene sage]

check mate

[woeful galleon]

Man, it IS a great christmas today

[eternal sable]

yes, this was our xmas present

[woeful galleon]

Surprise!

[paper brook]

Should I replace Fire Frenzy with DumDum? or refine the other perk for Maniac damage?

[paper brook]

Looks like the emperor delivered

[umbral scaffold]

ayo wtf guys look !

ah embed

ok nah this is funier corrupted

I cant wait for long cadian shocktrooper skin !

and huge-tall commissar hat

[fierce steeple]

old news, we got them tempustus scion skins coming soon potentially. Or it will remain forever locked away, just out of grasp.

[umbral scaffold]

💀 i know my joke was theses are fake as fuck

because theyre green themed

[fierce steeple]

youll enjoy your nasty red skins without complaint!

[umbral scaffold]

this is a photoshop made by someone with the items recoloured with a mod

[flint garden]

i like how no one knows you can transfer consumables. vet asks for ammo so i give him a crate to use if he needs it then he thinks it just disappeared

[mortal shore]

Unironically the first time someone handed me an ammo crate I spent a good ten minutes or so being confused until I finally swapped it for a medkit I was trying to pick up and it threw me for such a loop.

[frank ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bed-deflate-gif-4485064855593108883

[crude ermine]

Nahh AI director really has it out for you

[eternal sable]

😭

[orchid musk]

Try to make it to next area. Your teammates will respawn in different area.

[celest vine]

That looks awful

[junior needle]

Your priority is bugged dumdum>flak/maniac perks>second blessing

I'd do fire frenzy since deathspitter gives power, which gives both cleave and damage (and stagger)

Oh wait there's a tooltip on there that says that, whoops

[untold mulch]

I really hope alongside Hellgun

[marsh condor]

What Blessings are good with Agripinaa Infantry Autogun?

[atomic zephyr]

weapon customization mod rocks
power sword? nah
power saber? yeah.

[spark sandal]

Is scattershot worth milk dollars?

[mortal shore]

Wait, weapon customization?

[sick marsh]

Mod

[brazen bay]

any idea when we might get another story update?

[gaunt hinge]

Next year 😎

[brazen bay]

also another probs dumb question is it still possible to do the redacted penaces?

[mortal shore]

Yes.

[muted gorge]

what are the go to modifiers for executioners stance in yalls opinion

[vast wren]

is there some kind of chart or spreadsheet somewhere of all the guns and marks and what their defining characteristics are like single shot, burst, full auto, torrent, etc. so I don't have to buy one of each, because just looking at brunts armory doesn't give much useful info, you can't inspect a type before buying it

[muted gorge]

gotta get a premade squad and do private game but you can get them still

[atomic zephyr]

refresh on highlighted kill and highlight shooters

[mortal shore]

^Never leave home without it.

[gray belfry]

absolutely those 2.

you reckon if they got rid of the radius nerf for the rez shout talent itd make it useable? or is the doubled cooldown still too much

[eternal venture]

Yeah, I don’t think most people would take it still

[gray belfry]

what do you think would make it a viable talent, or is it a noob trap by design

[eternal venture]

Being able to aggressively push every 30 seconds (at most) is just too valuable to give up

[muted gorge]

why not the highlight for whole team?

[gray belfry]

they're already shooting at em, plus it means you now have competition for refreshing the timer

[muted gorge]

hmmm

good point

[eternal venture]

Rez probably needs some other kind of downside, but for the life of me, I can’t think of one

[mortal shore]

Because them shooting your highlighted targets doesn't count for your refresh.

[gray belfry]

maybe make it so its just the radius nerf, but then itd just be strong. idk either

[prime coral]

what is preferd meele weapon for horde clear?

[gray belfry]

oh god take your pick theres a few options. power swords a classic as long as you have power cycler 4, chainswords with a cleave blessing are also good. im running the new chain axe with power on hit/kill blessings and that just goes through hordes with left click spam and melee specialist attack speed

[muted gorge]

Im a chainsword enjoyer personally

[gray belfry]

new knifes surprisingly good at is

[prime coral]

i have been chain sword for ever, just making sure i am not gimping myself with it

thanks for advice

[gray belfry]

shovel can knock around crowds well enough

mk 6 and classic ones at the very least

[eternal venture]

Devil Claw 4 with Rampage is my go to

[gray belfry]

mk 7 even

hows the mk 1 dc?

[eternal venture]

Light > Heavy > repeat

I actually can’t remember the mk1’s moveset lul

Been ages since I’ve used it

[gray belfry]

game gave me one with t4 hammerblow and t3 shred is all

wondering if its worth changing the perks around and using it

[slate sleet]

is there a mod that auto marks stuf

f

[gray belfry]

?

[slate sleet]

i keep forgetting sometimes

pings enemies you are looking at

[gray belfry]

just dont forget

[eternal venture]

Bind mark to a mouse thumb button and get into the habit of pressing it nonstop

If a plugin did it for you, random stuff would keep getting pinged and it would both be obnoxious and useless

[gray belfry]

its my mousewheel click, and i do it so much the game will often just ping the spot im tryign to scan for enemies

think it was u13 that made it so hitting ping twice quickly made it mark the spot

[low oar]

Mark target keystone be like

[gray belfry]

just general play lets be real

but focus target especially

[slim rivet]

nice found a surgical t4 blessing for Hadron to collect

[gray belfry]

lights are cleave/cleave/single target. heavys are double swing

[eternal venture]

Yeah it was u13, you can change your ping strings though

[gray belfry]

also check out this fucking bullshit brunt sold me

[eternal venture]

Mk1 moveset is prob fine then, just up to personal preference

[gray belfry]

i almost wanna upgrade it to see what it gets

[eternal venture]

Light > Light > block cancel > repeat

[bright cliff]

on the dc mk1? why not just heavy > heavy ?

dc mk4 is better anyway

[eternal venture]

Oh the heavies are cleave

Yeah I’m not at home to check the combos lol

But yeah mk4 is the comfiest

[gray belfry]

yeah i just figured id ask since i got a semi decent one for end of mission

[paper brook]

I can't tell if this was passive aggressive lmao but I'm aware of the tooltip that's why I was asking if it was better to replace for frenzy with DumDum

[river escarp]

What should be changed ?

[strange sparrow]

Both of the blessings

[junior needle]

Not at all. I didn’t notice the tooltip, so my explanation of power was totally redundant and I looked goofy for not reading it before responding.

[river escarp]

Savage Sweep and Rampage I recon

[strange sparrow]

Yea.

[junior needle]

Yeah, the perks are already good for horde clearing

[strange sparrow]

I might be wrong, but you could try in Psykarium whether you can one shot scab that have the Flak Helmet

[eternal venture]

Mk4 also looks the coolest imo

[azure zephyr]

What are some good blessings for Columnus? Making a stealth build for it.

[eternal venture]

Though mk6 is also cool because it’s a machete

[azure zephyr]

Using a mk2 since it just overall looks and feels better

[azure zephyr]

Got it, once I earn those blessings gonna try that.

[strange sparrow]

This is also my current Columnus

[slate sleet]

raking fire

dum dum

raking fire col5 vs bosses is just

muuah

chefs kiss

especially discord moderator slime

[strange sparrow]

Auric Mael

Damage are pretty good

Against boss, it's a breezy walk (I dont run KeyStone)

[paper brook]

No worries lol gotta love the What in the Localization mod for clearer and more descriptive tooltips

[paper brook]

Do you run Onslaught? The stacking brittleness does wonders against bosses and elites

[atomic zephyr]

if psykers are so smart why did i just watch one go an entire damnation w/o using the charged attack on the flame staff

[muted gorge]

lord on terra help me ive had 3 people today just casually walk up to a daemonhost and start attacking it

i know they're new and i dont hold it against them, its just its happened 3 times

[serene solar]

Cowabunga it is

[strange sparrow]

I don't actually

[atomic zephyr]

on the flip side, reminded myself why I like the vraks 7 so much

headshot deletion machine

[strange sparrow]

Maybe when I got a better Columnus IAG

[serene solar]

Anything that shoots fast with Onslaught is so cash

[strange sparrow]

Still on da Psword Cycle Grind

[slate sleet]

redirect fire is just

so insane

focus target is such a good ability

[strange sparrow]

okay im dumb, Onslaught is a talent not a blessing

Yes I do, Onslaught so My IAG can fuck up Crusher

My current build after people tell me to ignore determined

[atomic zephyr]

wait why would one ignore determined

well i gues its build dependent

[strange sparrow]

more damage

and they say dont be a pussy

[slate sleet]

dont need it most of the time

[atomic zephyr]

eh, depends i've found

[slate sleet]

any situation where its useful you can just take cover

[atomic zephyr]

being able to counterfire against a gunner squad is nice

[strange sparrow]

Also I spent one extra talent point to get this

[gray belfry]

we love watching zealots run ahead when we're already down a man to go for the rez while theres 10 ragers in the area

[slate sleet]

shooting in their general direction also makes them stop firing so its whatever really

[strange sparrow]

Eehhhh, IAG supress them faster than them supressing me

[mortal shore]

^I too have found that the best solution to suppression is not a talent that renders you immunity, but dealing with it the same way you do snipers.

That is to say; AGGRESSIVE counter-fire.,

[slate sleet]

why is this 5 sec

why not 10

[strange sparrow]

I mean

It's abusive anyways

[eternal venture]

That would be crazy uptime on Voice of Command

More so than it already is

[strange sparrow]

my 23 seconds VoC be like

[gray belfry]

whats funny is the one on the right side where its 15% close damage is 10s

[slate sleet]

my eyes

[eternal venture]

That would mean that in the worst case scenario, your team has a 10% damage buff for 1/3 of the mission

[slate sleet]

so what

[strange sparrow]

Pretty good damage boost

[eternal venture]

10 of the 30 seconds of VoC’s cooldown would be a 10% damage buff on everyone

Because that would be insane lol

[slate sleet]

redirect fire gives my team 12% damage the whole mission

just did a auric and my psyker set up his buff bar to show him the redirect fire stacks and he has 8 the whole mission

[eternal venture]

On top of the overtoughness VoC brings

[slate sleet]

with fire team thats another 5%

[eternal venture]

That would also be on top of Redirect Fire

[slate sleet]

17% damage buff on smite psyker the whole mission

all of a sudden he started to understand why he almost always has 1 mil dmg total every mission with me

[eternal venture]

The point being that it doesn’t need to be better than it already is

[strange sparrow]

But sir... Smite Psyker dont do damage...

[near sable]

where is my vostroyan

[gray belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-omg-danny-devito-oh-my-god-gif-15873107

the psyker after realising why he's been 2 shotting damn near every elite

[eternal venture]

And now you see why for the emperor doesn’t have a 10s duration

[slate sleet]

mark target is so based

32% damage vs something +17% passive

[eternal venture]

Just remember to mark them first

; )

[slate sleet]

im setting up my bars so my buffs are big

so im always trying to keep it up

keep the stacks going

[gray belfry]

warmed up to smokes recently. its handy having a 'can you fuck off for 5 seconds' for reapers and gunners

[slate sleet]

smokes are good for stealth vet

cloak, run up to gunner stack, drop smoke and go to town

[strange sparrow]

I don't really like middle keystone until Im into that assassination missions

[slate sleet]

quite strong especially on high intensity maps

[gray belfry]

just chuck em on the crowd near a chokepoitn and watch as the 8 reapers slowly walk up being unable to start fire

[eternal venture]

Smokes just need a little more utility to be a solid alternative to the other two nades

[slate sleet]

they just put out fire

[stray storm]

Smokes pretty useful
Tired of everyone saying it don’t

[slate sleet]

thats all they need to do

[eternal venture]

Maybe make the smoke stagger enemies who walk through them

[slate sleet]

everyone hates smokes because it blocks everyones vision not just the enemy

smokes are already very good

[gray belfry]

honestly yeah, having snipers and bombers still being able to get you in them is a bit annoying, but bombers at least make sense 'oh smoke cloud? bet they're in there'

[strange sparrow]

That's a valid reason to still hate smoke rn

[slate sleet]

did you know dogs cant find you in smoke

its pretty funny

[eternal venture]

They actually are pretty useful because enemies treat them like a solid wall

[slate sleet]

well they can.. eventually just need like a good 20 sec of running around before they do

[eternal venture]

Which makes them move around/through them in predictable patterns

[gray belfry]

being in the smoke and watching a trapper/flamer/dog just walk right up to you before they start the attack windup is funny

[junior needle]

There's both a talent and blessing named onslaught

[slate sleet]

camo expert keystone is basically permasmoke if you keep killing specials

god i miss old camo expert

plastic chair in the middle of a storm vibes

[gray belfry]

i miss having the ammo passive being 40%

[eternal venture]

Old camo was funny

[slate sleet]

it was so good

i wish it was back

[eternal venture]

New camo (on the Marksman keystone) just gives you toughness regen

Low Profile at least gives you some of the old camo expert after leaving Infiltrate

[gray belfry]

god thats a fair point. making it so being in the smoke made your vision clearer would be a good change, just make it so you can tell when your still in the smoke so you dont think you're safe and tehn get gunned down

[slate sleet]

it just needs a visual update

• put out fire

[eternal venture]

Or if it just looked like Bardin’s smokes from vt2

[gray belfry]

would be nice to have a clear 'this is smoked' without it being so damn hard to see sometimes/when fires going off

[sudden dome]

is the finesse a deal breaker? It looked so perfect other than its missing like .1 crit/weakpoint damage

[gray belfry]

thatd just be real nice to have. tell the bomber/flamer to go fuck off with that bullshit while also having an antigunner niche filled

[slate sleet]

being able to toss a smoke on a team mate who is being SMOUN KALL FER A BEUM??? spammed to revive them would be amazing

[gray belfry]

'ill flush em out' no u

[slate sleet]

bombers are my #1 prio target

they ruin every game

no other special comes close

[glacial yacht]

does charge rate on plasma gun still affect damage or is that patched?

[slate sleet]

got patched recently

[paper brook]

Scab Trapper wants to know your location

[gray belfry]

im trying ot think of one thats worse but no you're on the level, bombers are absolutely a high priority

[gray belfry]

trapper and flamer working together to instantly down a target with no counterplay because the trapper sounds got borked again

[slate sleet]

apperently i have some deluxe mega 1% rich people in the world headset beacause i can hear them every single time

even in the middle of waves

[gray belfry]

same, but thats because i know damn well trappers can be just as obnoxious as bombers, but thats why i went with the smokes, since they gotta walk up to you to do the windup now

[slate sleet]

if you play vet well specials will never really be a issue

i wish executioners stance was more usable

as it is now its just a drag to use

[muted gorge]

until your teamates walk at the special blocking your line of fire and eating all your shots X.X

[gray belfry]

shouts just too damn useful to not use

[slate sleet]

its both safe and useful

[gray belfry]

is there ever a vet game without a well meaning ogryn blocking your shots?

[slate sleet]

exec needs buffs

they need to add camo expert to it

[muted gorge]

I dont say anything, because i know they mean well. but on the inside im seething

[gray belfry]

when its the zealot doing it for the 4th time though thatd justified rage lmao

ogryns are fine, big lads get a pass

[strange sparrow]

No they dont

[gray belfry]

psykers....eeeeeh thin fucking ice but we'l see

[strange sparrow]

They ate all my bullet

[muted gorge]

which uh chainsword do yall prefer Mk XIII or MK IV

[gray belfry]

they eat the bullet but then mark the next 3 big ammo bags as an apology

[strange sparrow]

#veteran-class message

How I feel about all ogryn in my game

[muted gorge]

totally a meaningful buff from this node

[strange sparrow]

Bring back Friendly Fire

[gray belfry]

thats 100% a 'oh look theyre swarming the boss ill help'

[strange sparrow]

I want to shoot the ogryn

[gray belfry]

[muted gorge]

Between the other 2 keystones i feel like marksmans focus will benefit how i wanna play the most, but i find it hard to not move

to maintain the buff

[strange sparrow]

Dude it would be so funny that Ogryn Fuck-All Nuke nuke us along with the entire horde

[versed merlin]

if we had friendly fire in this game, brauto and iag vets would be 100% constantly kicked

[gray belfry]

it seems too restricting for my tastes, been enjoying weapons specialist recently, but usually just go with maxing out focus target

[fleet garden]

tag keystone is pog

[strange sparrow]

Im waiting for people to play Marksman Focus in Auric Mael

[gray belfry]

i think my humours fucking gone. im listening to a metal pipe version of metal mario from sm64

[gray anvil]

What weapons do yall like to pair with yalls revilvers i finally got a good one but cant really figure out what melee ro use

[paper brook]

Honestly my favorite is when I'm pushing Heretics off me to pick up my teammate and all I hear behind me is "DID SOMEONE CALL FOR A BOOM?!!"

[muted gorge]

i hate the revolver meta so none

[gray belfry]

slug shotguns something i always end up going back to, as for melees, new knife and chain axe, but cant beat the classic pc4 mk6 power sword

just waiting for the game to hurry the fuck up and give me t4 fullbore/fire frenzy

[junior needle]

You don't have to take a keystone, there's plenty of goodies elsewhere.

The stacks fall off 1 at a time though

[gray belfry]

yeah vets in a wierd 'keystones are nice but you dont NEED them'

[junior needle]

I find them a bit gimmicky

I like the ogryn and zealot keystones way more

[mortal shore]

Shout is literally SSSR-tier. Simple-Strong-Safe-&-Reliable.

[gray belfry]

focus targets just free damage, but the rest are definately gimmicky

[junior needle]

Having to ping them all first is annoying for me

I could get around that with a macro

[fleet garden]

ive done it but its kinad meh

[junior needle]

But then I'm spamming ping

[fleet garden]

you have to stand still so much

you always ping though

[gray belfry]

been using weapons specialist for a while recently and its....the melee speed and dodge is definately noticable, but the ranged one is 'is this doing anything' or 'oh shit that just 2 shot something'

[fleet garden]

even without the keystone

[junior needle]

I rarely ever ping things unless I can't personally deal with them

[fleet garden]

why

[junior needle]

And this is pinging everything you're shooting at

[fleet garden]

its there for a reason

[gray belfry]

im the opposite lmao, probably from my WHC days but gotta tag everything

[strange sparrow]

I want to see how people perform in regards to the keystone that's all tbh

[fleet garden]

spam that button

[strange sparrow]

Same

[versed merlin]

i always ping stuff that im about to shoot, otherwise i miss all my shots

[fleet garden]

its ok dmg but dogshit otherwise

[junior needle]

There's numerous salty posts on the subreddit about people spamming ping

[gray belfry]

ping the gunner/sniper at a distance so i can see what im trying to hit with my slug

[junior needle]

Which I suppose I could just ignore as it's not a "me" problem

[strange sparrow]

Blinds Mousewheel Down to Ping

[gray belfry]

reddit. theres your problem

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mx-mouse-logitech-logitech-mouse-spinning-spinning-wheel-gif-24743270

[fleet garden]

yep

id rather have ppl ping than not

especially if you get a sneaky trapper in there

[strange sparrow]

I don't really ping a lot because Columnus IAG in my game just shred everything

[junior needle]

It's more "fluctuating ping spam on everything in a horde that I'm shooting at"

[muted gorge]

oh man that 20% weakspot damage on C IAG is big upgrade to damage

[gray belfry]

i hear a trapper, im spamming the shit out of mark target in that general direction

[strange sparrow]

Weakspot damage doesn't scale that well from what I heard

Might be wrong

[junior needle]

30% weakspot damage if you're talking about the talent

[strange sparrow]

Heard

[muted gorge]

im noticing a big difference personally

[strange sparrow]

Yea.

[junior needle]

Weakspot/crit damage only applies to the bonus damage from the weakspot hit/crit

[muted gorge]

things that would take half a mag to kill now only take like 15%

im still leveling though so maybe its effectiveness will drop off

[gray belfry]

id say thats a noticable change

[junior needle]

So it's always way inferior to straight damage and can be more or less useful depending on the base finesse of the gun

[strange sparrow]

Columnus is so busted that you could be playing Damnation at level 18 I argue

You're just forced to take Shout

[gray belfry]

should get a columnus going, but i like the agri shotgun too much

[muted gorge]

why do i have to take shout with C IAG?

[strange sparrow]

and Yes
I still believe that Veteran have little toughness regeneration option compared to other class

[gray belfry]

oh theyre talking if you go damnation at level 18

[serene sage]

who though that this was okay lmao

[muted gorge]

executioners is working fine

[serene sage]

like, seriously

[muted gorge]

oh for sure

[gray belfry]

what the fuck is this

[muted gorge]

i wont play damn till im atleast level 25

[serene sage]

who looked at this damage table and be like, yeah, good, ship it

[muted gorge]

i dont wanna be THAT guy going into damnation at 15

[serene sage]

take a wild fucking guess

[strange sparrow]

Not outrageous, ThunHammer?

[gray belfry]

no no its balanced now we nerfed carapace damage by 20%

[serene sage]

guys...

[gray belfry]

[serene sage]

the gun is literally on the background

like

...

[gray belfry]

im blind ok

[strange sparrow]

Oh. Revolver

Lmao

[serene sage]

[gray belfry]

but yeah those numbers are slightly fucked

[muted gorge]

i cant wait till they nerf revolver and all the meta players have to change

[serene sage]

carapce damage doesn't matter becayse hand canon

[strange sparrow]

Look, Revolver is balanced imo because how slow the reload is

[slate sleet]

plasma is the meta

[gray belfry]

pls no nerf cowboy revolver

[serene sage]

god that would be the day

[strange sparrow]

Plasma still exist meanwhile

[gray belfry]

normie revolver though, nerf that shit itl be funny

[strange sparrow]

I play Zealot Revolver, Main complain is just no time to reload

Half my team can't function if I decided to, Yea you guys can deal with the trash

[versed merlin]

i wish we could blacklist low vision modifiers from quick play

[strange sparrow]

The only time this ability work

[slate sleet]

i just did one

was fun

[gray belfry]

'low vision modifier' time to make this everyones problem 'throws smoke'

[strange sparrow]

Ventilation Purge are worse than Lights Out

and you can't change my mind

[versed merlin]

yeah works wonders there

[gray belfry]

why would we, you're right. you can at least get a flashlight/fire nades to make lights out easier to see, fog is pain

[versed merlin]

except im playing zealot this time

[strange sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-warm-sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey’s-end-gif-10978754497646408177

[strange sparrow]

Zealot still the best class imo

Best Keystone ever

(Martyrdom)

[versed merlin]

[wispy island]

I have been running this build with my vet and no one can tell me this isn't the most fun build in the game

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aeffe70-6a80-4f75-b504-66e7f3b466d2/true-commisar?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[gray belfry]

'oh no we have a knife zealot with loner and martyrdom, cant wait to see them run off 100m away and then get instantly hit by a poxhound'

[muted gorge]

big agree

[strange sparrow]

Ew Knife Zealot

[wispy island]

And I need a group of people to see it so maybe someone tries it

[muted gorge]

Thammer Marty is where its at

[strange sparrow]

No offense to Knife player, but do you ever think about picking up that Plasteel on the ground

[gray belfry]

heard t hammer is a bit lackluster in this update, having avoided zealot for ages once i hit 30 on it, how true is it

[strange sparrow]

You can't just speed thru the entire map and don't pick up

[crude ermine]

Plasteel 🤤

[strange sparrow]

Dont believe what people say in Thammer, It still suck

[versed merlin]

you just need more effort to be able to one shot crushers with it

[strange sparrow]

Why CC the trash when you can KILL the trash

[versed merlin]

and deal slight less damage to bosses

[crude ermine]

Ironhelm does do less against bosses compared to the crucis

However

[versed merlin]

the thing about thammer is to melt bosses, not deal with hordes lol

[gray belfry]

fair enough. ill take your word for it. never really got into zealot, vet seems to be the one i sink all my time into

[strange sparrow]

It's great against single target, but like 90% of the time, you're just not useful

[crude ermine]

It does have much better multi target with the charged heavy compared to crucis

[strange sparrow]

Just take Heavy Evis at that point

[versed merlin]

pretty much

[crude ermine]

Don't steal my sentence

[gray belfry]

did try gun psyker and funny rock man but vet is th eone i come back to every time

[crude ermine]

I'm sueing you

dix neuf

[strange sparrow]

Proper Response to your statement

[quasi tulip]

perk and blessing for new chainsword?

[muted gorge]

AW why did the french ladies get deleted

I wanted to save that

[muted gorge]

this just gives me more question

I think i figured it out

I still want that meme

[gray anvil]

Tbh get over it something is always gonna be meta

[muted gorge]

im not being THAT serious, calm down

i dont care that other people use it, thats their perogative, im just not interested in it

[mortal shore]

Check your DM's.

[strange sparrow]

There’s a pipe bomb don’t

[muted gorge]

its too late, im already dead

[quasi tulip]

what other perks and blessing? bloodletter?

[versed merlin]

i swear this chat is cursing me

[sharp ember]

once Wrath is secured, Rampage or Bloodletter, Shred is ok too

[vague charm]

How well does the chainsword pair with the columnus or would the sapper shovel be better?

[versed merlin]

just got a low vision auric qp with 2 vets with the tag keystone competing with each other to see who spams ping the most and one of them had smoke nade

[gray belfry]

[quasi tulip]

what about perks? flak and maniac?

[crude ermine]

If it works

[sharp ember]

flak and your choice really, unyielding if running bloodletter for monstrosities

[gray anvil]

Tbh its more of a thing that irks me because i play fighting games alot and hearing people complain about top teir gets on my nerves

[sharp ember]

probably maniac due to dreg ragers

unless you just shoot them

[gray anvil]

Like just pick a top teir get good with who you like or stop complaining

[loud perch]

Dont have a chain axe for vet yet this is available from melk, decent?

[frank ether]

thats suprisingly decent considering its from melk

though Idk breakpoints for the new chainaxe

[analog blaze]

Pretty good

[loud perch]

Anything to change or just run it like it is for now

[frank ether]

I wound change weakspot damage to maniac

[loud perch]

Okay

[frank ether]

and then ordinarily on old chainaxe

I'd change thunderous to slaughterer

[loud perch]

How is that chain axe compared to this?

This is what i have now but nothing else

[frank ether]

Its gonna vary from build to build but chainaxe likes some power for breakpoints

[pine river]

question I been to afraid to ask. What's the difference between something that shoots bullets vs like a laz gun?

I prefer to run bullets but some vids I watch like laz guns or plama guns.

[crude ermine]

I'd change thunderous to thrust

[bright cliff]

which of these blessings do I take with cavalcade

[gritty dock]

It looks as if someone was throwing firecrackers on New Year's Eve.

[versed merlin]

heretics be like hahah get wombo combo'd nerd

[strange sparrow]

Should had just push like what people here keep saying (skill issue)

[slate sleet]

my pov

no idea why sound is fucked

[grand merlin]

Which blessings for the vraks 7?

[prisma robin]

Hell yeah

[junior needle]

surgical/deadly

[grand merlin]

Surgical, like the one for helborne?

[versed merlin]

yes

[grand merlin]

Do I have to reroll?

I already have a version 3 for the helborne.

[junior needle]

Autopistol veteran
No survivalist
Clears melee chaffe with gun
Uses VOC maybe twice the whole game

Yep, it's quick play auric time

[junior needle]

Different weapon lines have separate blessing pools, even for the same blessing.

[grand merlin]

I see

[junior needle]

So you'd need to get it on the headhunters

[wispy island]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aeffe70-6a80-4f75-b504-66e7f3b466d2/true-commisar?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[drowsy kayak]

honestly you could probably free up 2 points from the agile engagement and melee damage nodes what with weapon specialist

[gritty dock]

And this is what calls a high level of difficulty. 🙂

[modest sapphire]

Can grenades crit?

[crude ermine]

I don't think so

[modest sapphire]

Bummer. Curious if I could get crucial roulette to work on my grenade

[crude ermine]

I think that only works with guns

[astral ingot]

the good old days when it worked on your melee weapon

[modest sapphire]

Do we only really like weapon specialist keystone on one shot guns that utilize the crit chance like revolvers, bolt guns, and plasma guns?

[lofty lintel]

Any weapon works

But mostly used on revolver and such because of the autoreload

[crude ermine]

Except recon lasguns

[lofty lintel]

Oh yeah

Except recon lasguns

[frank ether]

not every melee needs attack speed

[forest scaffold]

guess the build

[crude ermine]

God when a weapon with 4% damage can out DPS a 80% damage recon lasgun

[frank ether]

the 1-2-3 whatever points spent on weapon specialist can make your build so much better in other ways

or not

depends

[sage agate]

every prayer is getting longer, the heretics are getting louder... when the stimms run out, time stops, and you're stuck in Tertium forever....

funny vietnam lasgun

[lofty lintel]

I was gonna say

Vietnam lasgun 😭

[crude ermine]

Focus target build

Or whatever the piss mark is called

[lofty lintel]

Yeah focus target

[modest sapphire]

I i just feel like fire rate doesn’t really do much for a keystone effect, like it doesn’t justify it

[frank ether]

I dont understand how plasma doesnt have higher weapon swap time

[lofty lintel]

True

[forest scaffold]

[crude ermine]

Fuck that was my first guess

[lofty lintel]

You want the crit chance from the keystone

[forest scaffold]

bleed knife is dogshit

[crude ermine]

I saw the plasma and thought (nah it's focus dumbass)

[forest scaffold]

veteran's bleed talent is dogshit

[frank ether]

it works really well for autoguns

[forest scaffold]

we love uncanny strike+executor

or uncanny strike+precognition

[frank ether]

synergizes great for onslaught too

[forest scaffold]

Its REALLY good on brautos

like REALLY REALLY good on brautos

[lofty lintel]

Truee

Agri brauto weapons specialist

[frank ether]

too bad braced autos kinda stink for veteran

iags better

[forest scaffold]

All I can say though is this: Whoever says veteran sucks is just bad at the game.

[frank ether]

or let me put it this way

[forest scaffold]

[frank ether]

there is very little reason

not to go iag over braced for vet

but brauto also works ok

[quasi socket]

merry fkin christmas, melk!

[frank ether]

nice one

[lofty lintel]

Damnn

[frank ether]

slurp that bm4

[quasi socket]

bout to transplant onto this

[frank ether]

oh yeah, its not a huge difference going from 3 to 4 but you committed to that lock

so might aswell

that PS will be great once you get PCIV

unyielding is also not a bad roll either