veteran-class

[umbral scaffold]

if I have a good chainsword and a choice of plasma gun or the original revolver, what build should I run to be able to do karnak twins on damnation

[hybrid barn]

I knew I was a braindead one lol

[tall torrent]

Melee that works for any build is combat axe (mk5 or mk2)

[slender turtle]

I didnt say useless just very... weird. I want the extra reload speed but i cant deny the krak grenades

[opal loom]

krak grenades are great

[muted gorge]

I forgot how painful it is playing with people leveling for the first time

[slender turtle]

if you dont want to charge up your sword for every 3 swings, the Caxe is a great alternative. better in some cases

[muted gorge]

the situational unawarness is so painful

[tall torrent]

Think for them essentially as “throw one down and ignore all ranged enemies except snipers for 15s”

Against gunner & reaper waves they’re very good

They force them to fire on your last known location

Makes is easy to flank & kill them

[muted gorge]

i see them killing 2 ragers so i turn around to deal with the horde coming up on us, and they just keep pushing forward leaving the almost deead rager to hit me in the back

not using medipacks

it hurts my soul

[slender turtle]

Hard to make use of them when most of the game is hallways

[tall torrent]

Which is why they’re so niche

They def still need buffs

[dusty sluice]

whats the difference between the two power swords?

[slender turtle]

I would just prefer they just buff people standing in them with damage reduction or just more of a chance to dodge shots

[torn inlet]

movesets

[tall torrent]

Mk6 uses light atks to to kill horde, push atk combo for single target

Mk3 uses heavy atks to kill stuff

[torn inlet]

directions the swords swing and the push attack

[dusty sluice]

what one would you recommend?

[torn inlet]

3 is pure horizontal heavy swings

[tall torrent]

Mk6

[torn inlet]

its a playstyle diff

[tall torrent]

Mk6 is generally considered the better between the two but mk3 is by no means bad

[torn inlet]

6 is if your system and network are more reliable

3 is less likely to fu if you have lag

[abstract moth]

Guys any advices for ps move set? I got the good stuff is really good at clearing hordes but it feels heavy and by powering up I get hit sometimes anyways there's any trick to it or I just need to get used to it?

[torn inlet]

6 is more technical and has value when everything goes right

[dusty sluice]

is flakiac fine as fine or would cara be better?

[torn inlet]

3 is braindead reliable though

[hybrid barn]

Idk if I should invest into one of them. Think they're alright?

[torn inlet]

yes

[torn inlet]

yes and flak recommended if you go boss hunting too

[slender turtle]

Thats really it. Just get used to it. I dont knmow if its a bug that if by getting hit with a powered up sword, it gets depowered

[tall torrent]

Maniac / carapace / unyielding for mk6

Not sure abt mk3

[torn inlet]

if you get interrupted yea. the ps powered hits need to be chained

[tall torrent]

Low shredder roll is a big problem for mk4 chainaxe

[abstract moth]

Aright thanks for the insight

[tall torrent]

Which PS u using

[abstract moth]

6

[tall torrent]

Block cancel the activation

[slender turtle]

Painful. ill just use the Caxe from now on

[tall torrent]

Swap flak to unarmored

[slender turtle]

reason?

[tall torrent]

Scab bruiser 1 tap

[slender turtle]

I thought brusiers with carapace

[tall torrent]

You can reach Dreg bruiser 1 tap without flak, but it’s very hard to reach scab bruiser 1 tap without unarmored

[hallow moat]

What’s a good blessing combo on power sword

[tall torrent]

Power cycler 4 + brutal momentum/sunder

[slender turtle]

I was using flak for the gunners cause i stealth into a crowd of them and just start hacking away

[abstract moth]

You mean when I activate and block it cancel the full animation but is still powered up so I save time?

[hallow moat]

Damn I got power cycled 3 and sunder 4 right now

[tall torrent]

Carapace only really applies to 4 enemies (crusher whole body, mauler head, bulwark arms and reaper arms)

[tall torrent]

Yes

You need to be more defensive with power up

[hybrid barn]

So......bad pull?

[abstract moth]

Awesome, thank you

[slender turtle]

🧱

[tall torrent]

And don’t be greedy with 3rd empowered atk

[hybrid barn]

Brick?

[tall torrent]

Beyond bricked

[hybrid barn]

Bonk

[slender turtle]

Good stats, bad blessings/perks

[hybrid barn]

Ah fuck

[abstract moth]

Wdym? That I shouldn't always go for 3 slashes?

[tall torrent]

It’s just bad
Bad stat roll
Bad perks
Bad blessings

[tall torrent]

Light 3 on mk6 is not as good as light 1 & 2 for horde clear (diagonal rather than horizontal)

Push atk combo 3rd atk is L1 which is not the best for single target dmg

[slender turtle]

Fatshark moment. Why would they not make the bruisers not have carapace

[tall torrent]

You can get the 3rd hit out if you have room for it, but always prioritize defense over getting that 3rd hit out

[hybrid barn]

How about this one?

[tall torrent]

Game design? Why do u want common bruisers to have the highest resilience armor in the game

[slender turtle]

Cause they look like it

[abstract moth]

I see

[slender turtle]

Or at the least have flak

[tall torrent]

They have flak

U can literally go into meat grinder and check

Which is which

[cloud leaf]

BRUH THEYRE ALL FLAK

except the not flak parts

[umbral scaffold]

What I like to do is guess what kinda bullet or something similar to it like it’s 40k equivalent. Me I say Agrippina uses something similar to the AK like a 40k 7.62

Vraks I assume is like something close to a 308 Winchester

[tall torrent]

They use a fictional 7.85mm long round

For autoguns

I think

[umbral scaffold]

Vraks feels a lot more powerful than a 7.85

[slender turtle]

Why does the dude that has no shirt on have flak armor but the dude that does be unarmored

[tall torrent]

He wears flak armor on his head

You can see it urself

[slender turtle]

his head but when you hit his chest, its flak

[late ledge]

new shotgun mark when, i want the drum mag

[tall torrent]

With an axe?

[slender turtle]

yeah

[tall torrent]

Axe prioritizes head hits

[umbral scaffold]

That might as well be Stormtrooper armor because that shit gets cut through like cardboard

Well when I fight against it

[slender turtle]

Weird. But if i take unarmored, wouldnt that just make the dudes with helmets not one-shot

[cedar pecan]

so I found a good roll on this, but is the axe itself good or nah?

[tall torrent]

No because you can maintain the 1 headshot kill on Dreg bruisers without flak

[hollow ibex]

don't like it

[tall torrent]

Easiest way to do it is probably 10% melee dmg + 30% weakpoint

[hollow ibex]

the lights get "stuck" on poxwalkers

[tall torrent]

Get the headtaker stacks built up

[hollow ibex]

it's actually very annoying lol

[tall torrent]

And you can 1 shot them

[tall torrent]

This is a very good roll

[slender turtle]

I can do it in reverse too, whats your point

[cedar pecan]

yeah but is the weapon itself good I mean

[tall torrent]

It’s fine

[hollow ibex]

new chaxe better

[tall torrent]

In reverse for scab bruiser 1 headshot?

[slender turtle]

yeah

[cedar pecan]

I just buy all weapons with good stat rolls from Brunt now

[tall torrent]

What difficulty are u testing on

[slender turtle]

We are talking about the same enemy, right? This dude is unarmored

[tall torrent]

He has 625 health

[slender turtle]

full headtaker stacks, i one shot him

[tall torrent]

It’s a lot harder to reach that 625 without unarmored

[umbral scaffold]

What I learned is that in Brunt’s armory the weapons are priced on how strong the weapon type is

Stronger the type the more expensive

[slender turtle]

Its not hard at all to reach

[tall torrent]

Ok as long as u can reach it it’s fine

What’s ur build btw

[slender turtle]

When you are in the thick of everything, stacks is maintained. so one shotting them isnt hard. Its when they are the intial enemy then i guess it is a pain in the ass cause it takes two hits then

[slender turtle]

#veteran-class message

[tall torrent]

Ok yea you took almost all the melee dmg nodes for that

That’s what I meant

With unarmored you don’t need as many melee dmg nodes

[slender turtle]

I been loving it. I cant let it down for a heavy ranged build

[tall torrent]

That build is heavy ranged…?

[slender turtle]

No, im saying i cant let go of the melee vet for a ranged vet build

[tall torrent]

Oh ok

[slender turtle]

[tall torrent]

I suggest you drop 2 points somewhere and get stamina regen delay reduction (bottom right), and nade regen

[slender turtle]

Ive tried. I use a lot of the perks I have and substitute it with stamina regen on curios

[tall torrent]

If you’re playing melee vet you don’t even really need exhilarating takedown, volley adept or longshot

[tall torrent]

Stamina regen doesn’t help stamina regen delay

It increases how fast u regen toughness after the delay passes

The delay is still highly important

[slender turtle]

I been doing fine without it. Albeit, the boss damage is probably its weak spot and not having regening grenades

[umbral scaffold]

During a mission I accidentally used a grimoire. I have no idea what it did

[slender turtle]

the exhil takedown is what lets me stay in the thick of enemies and not have to worry

All the damage reduction from hunters and exhil

[tall torrent]

Exhilarating takedown doesn’t even work for melee weapons

What gun are u using

[slender turtle]

revolver or shotgun

[slender turtle]

But of course it doesnt. Why would it. I didnt even know this

[tall torrent]

I can help if u want a melee vet build

[slender turtle]

Im dropping exhil now.

And the perk for always prepared

That was just kind of the throw away perk

[tall torrent]

Made very minimal changes based on yours

[slender turtle]

I need that 30% reload speed on special kills though

so its more of a personal preference

[serene sage]

Which gun is it?

[tall torrent]

You don’t though

[slender turtle]

revolver

[tall torrent]

Weapon specialist reloads for you

You don’t need reload speed

[serene sage]

Also no Desperado for melee vet?

[slender turtle]

yeah but have you seen how fast you reload?

[tall torrent]

Not needed if you’re actually playing melee vet

[serene sage]

No because you don't reload

Or you reload in an elevator/down time so volley adept doesn't matter

[slender turtle]

Its hard to explain. Think zealot minus the chastice

[serene sage]

But if it's preference then just skip precision strikes ig

[slender turtle]

doesnt precison affect melee?

[tall torrent]

Weapon specialist with the reload modifier works like this:
Kill 1 enemy with melee
Swap to revolver, now it got loaded 1 round
Repeat

[serene sage]

Yes

[tall torrent]

Yes, but because you’re taking flak instead of unarmored I’m afraid you have to go that route to maintain breakpoint

This is why I tell u to go unarmored lol

If you take unarmored I think you only need these 2 nodes to get both bruiser 1 hit kill

[compact briar]

hey vets

just laid eyes on the blessing Sunder for the first time

viable?

[slender turtle]

But i worry more about gunners than bruisers

[compact briar]

or bromentum just better?

[tall torrent]

Dreg gunner is unarmored head
Scab gunner is flak

Combat axe INHERENTLY has higher dmg against flak than unarmored

[serene sage]

Either is cool

[frank ether]

its good

hit hadron

[serene sage]

One is better for normal horde
The other is better for mixed

[tall torrent]

Sunder is strong as well

Better against mass elites

[slender turtle]

lemme go get it equipped

[compact briar]

interesting, thanks

[slender turtle]

So are you also saying i should take pecision with this

[tall torrent]

I’m saying you don’t need to spend as many points for weird pathing when you can only take these 2 nodes and get the intended axe breakpoints

Also, VoC is a very safe ability for melee vet

With less point cost

[slender turtle]

I been enjoying stealth. Very selfish build but i have different philosophies

I have a shout build but just never use it

[tall torrent]

Try this

You can trade Grenade tinkerer for keystone modifier

[slender turtle]

why the 90% reduction in attention

[tall torrent]

Because you get to spend 10 seconds not getting hit by 90% enemies near u

[south garnet]

I guess carapace to flak?

[tall torrent]

So you can personally go on an adventure and wipe every specialist that’s giving your team trouble

[tall torrent]

Maniac

That’s actually a perfect HB1

You should be able to hit very consistent flamer 1 tap

[south garnet]

Hell yea, only took me fuckin forever

[junior needle]

Sunder or brutal are the meta second blessings, they're both good for different reasons. Sunder adjusts the cleave, so your hits can go through crushers and bulwark shields instead of stopping.

[tall torrent]

Grab 15% elite on left tree and you can one tap both gunners extremely reliably as well

Try my build

[south garnet]

Sick, looking forward to giving it a spin

NICE, thankies

wicked I love agile engagement

[tall torrent]

I think 15% elite also gives very consistent reaper 2 tap headshot

[slender turtle]

The way i saw it was, if im going to grab aggro while im in the middle of the enemies, i might as well have protection doing so cause it also causes supression leaving stealth

[tall torrent]

If you’re all alone in a horde then the -90% threat doesn’t help you
But a guardsman is never alone

Unless you’re last man standing

[slender turtle]

thats kind of the point. Being with the zealot or ogryn

[tall torrent]

So you divert dangerous enemies onto your teammates so you can go kill the specialists & elites that are really causing you trouble

[slender turtle]

And thats another point. The 90% doesnt help cause you have 100% of the aggro when you are the only one left

[frank ether]

das a pretty good mk1

[tall torrent]

If you’re not gonna take the -90% threat, just skip the other modifiers and only take 2 charges

[slender turtle]

I do. I been using it so much now, i just kind of time it for when i need to get close

I wish i had recording software to show you how i play. I use it to get powered up with the surprise attack talent

in some instances

i.e. rager pack or something that needs focus

[tall torrent]

Combat axes doesn’t gain that many breakpoints with the +dmg ability modifiers

[quasi socket]

for blessings, can they only roll rank 4 stuff at orange level?

[junior needle]

It's more likely to, but not guaranteed

[tall torrent]

If you were using a power sword I think CQKZ + surprise atk can give interesting results vs mass ragers

[slender turtle]

I think that was why i was using flak. For the flak armored ragers

[gilded wraith]

I'm not certain what to think of this one

Maybe Duck and Dive + Deadshot?

and just fix the perks?

[kindred vapor]

Hello, what would be the best ranged weapon(s) to play with Executioner's Stance?

[slender turtle]

whatever ranged weapon you prefer but precision weapons like lasguns and plasma

[kindred vapor]

thank you

[slender turtle]

Plasma if you like wallbanging elites. Lasgun the classic setup. Or even autoguns if you want

[gritty mountain]

Gamers , what is the Mk XIIIg chainsword good for compared to the other chainsword?

Ive not used it yet, just tryna put some blessings on one ive just got

[fossil fable]

Columnus IAG, Plasma Gun or even the Agri Revolver come to mind

[inland orchid]

The new chainsword got strikedown for its 1st heavy strike instead of the old chainsword’s vanguard

I think the block strike diff too? Been a bit

[sharp ember]

harder hitting heavy rev attacks and a sideswipe push attack, it seriously needs Wrath for cleave though because light spam is your horde clear

its light cleave is not strong enough to cleave 3 bruisers for rampage/savage sweep

[delicate lotus]

i think im enjoying Shotgun vet but how effectiv would it be when its fully optimised?

[crude fiber]

i love seeing every weapon in brunts store have max mobility. i swear mobility is weighted heavier in the gacha rolls

[bitter turtle]

threat reduction is probably the best subnode there

followed by overwatch

just imo

[torn gorge]

I prefer the mk12g moveset over the other one

simply because with the other the heavies were somewhat of an afterthought

only relevant vs hyperdensity

push attack into 3 lights feels more natural vs waves on the mk12g

and you technically have better heavies

[warm charm]

so im pretty new, can u "reroll" any perk any amount of times? and take of put put blessings any amount of time?

[torn gorge]

ye

the only limiting factor is what slot you decide to reroll

[inland orchid]

Each weapon has a max 2 modifications u can do to it

[torn gorge]

because you can only pick 2 slots out of 4

[warm charm]

o

so ideal u would just farma weap to get 2/4 im assuming

then reroll for 4/4

[tall torrent]

This heavily depends on which shotgun you’re using

[delicate lotus]

Agrippa

But i want to try the Kantrel aswell

[tall torrent]

Agripinaa is very good at deleting elites & specials

[delicate lotus]

What blessings would i put on it it

[tall torrent]

Full bore + no respite

[delicate lotus]

I only have 362 roll i probably wait for a better one

[celest vine]

Damn

Executioners stance is actually really good

[ebon umbra]

does trench drill increase parry speed?

[tall torrent]

Not sure, but even if it did, it would be a minuscule change

[bitter turtle]

yes, with good stats as well

layers of rng

😔

[ebon umbra]

thinking about it for twins fight pubs

[tall torrent]

It’s like on the helbore bayonets we’re not sure if it buffs the stab speed

[bitter turtle]

i dont think it does

at least i dont notice a difference

[midnight totem]

what are good perks on a braced autogun?

[ebon umbra]

i never noticed either

[midnight totem]

Flak and manic?

[bitter turtle]

yes

flaniac is good for brauto

the only time you really deviate from that is if you're doing something very specific or you need to hit a breakpoint on another enemy type like dreg gunners which are unarmored

[midnight totem]

gotcha

I think I found a nearly god roll braced auto

[tall torrent]

Elite also fine

[edgy sleet]

best blessings on a laspistol?

[tall torrent]

Ghost
Raking fire
Dum dum
Infernus

These 4 all good

[edgy sleet]

thank ya

flak/maniac perks?

[tall torrent]

Flak
Maniac
Elite
Unyielding
Crit chance

These all good

I have maniac + crit chance on mine

[slender turtle]

I prefer to go into to battle knowing i wont get slapped down in a few hits. With HR, i can take more as long as im not getting chainsawed down by ragers

[bitter turtle]

that is really good

you can even keep stripped down

if you like it

[bitter turtle]

well its one or the other

you obv dont take both at the same time

threat reduction is better as long as you have teammates up though

[slender turtle]

Unfortunately

[bitter turtle]

admittedly its useless if your whole team goes down lul

[slender turtle]

which happens a lot in qp for me

[ionic hull]

Slaughterer or Rampage? i only have PC 3 still looking for 4

[crude ermine]

Tricky, because the right one has much better stats but I feel it wouldn't benefit as much from rampage compared to the 3

[kindred stump]

also the perks on both are not great

[ionic hull]

oh yea i knew the perks were garbage from the start wanting to know if Slaughterer would cover the lack of stats

[crude ermine]

They should

But I would recommend brutal momentum if you have it

[kindred stump]

I'd stick with right maybe

[umbral scaffold]

Change out crit damage on the right for flak or carapace

[kindred stump]

yeah

[umbral scaffold]

You only have one mod left since u added in pc3

[ionic hull]

yeee

right sword swap Crit dmg for Flak

had feeling right swords stats were gonna be better then Slaughterer

[bitter turtle]

right one

infested is usable

[rustic vortex]

I wonder if it's possible to get the Long Bomb penance by sticking a Krak Grenade to a Mauler, Crusher/Bulwark/Reaper, or Scab Rager and then have it explode in a group?

[inland orchid]

Krak’s explosion too small they’d have to be clumped up like penguins

But it is a pretty fun idea

[rustic vortex]

What about throwing a Shredder frag underhand? Or does it have to detonate in air?

[inland orchid]

Long bomb penance sadly has to ensure the nade doesn’t touch the floor

So ya the latter of it has to explode midair

[rustic vortex]

I think I figured it out in the Psykanium. Now I just need to get a group of my friends together tonight to try and get it.

[inland orchid]

Aye the place I got the penance was the torrent tileset, before the elevator functions there’s a nice clearing

I also got the buying time penance on my zel in the same place, real good choke with a fuck ton of distance for those 2 penaces

[umbral scaffold]

I haven’t gotten long bomb but I think the gist is you have to throw it far enough that the flight time equals or is greater than the cook off time

[midnight mortar]

It has to be a midair detonation.

If it impacts an enemy or the floor that counts as a "bounce" for the purposes of the penance.

[midnight totem]

Goddammit. Stealth vet saves a run

[umbral scaffold]

Don't they always

[frank ether]

just gotta do a long throw to ensure it detonates in air

[idle dirge]

Can't speak much on how good stealth vet is, but it can be really gratifying

[midnight totem]

I was trying out my new braced auto

Ran clear across the entire room with a horde of gunners missing because of stripped down 4

Hit infiltrate when my stamina was about to hit 50 and jogged the rest of the way

[idle dirge]

Trying to think what curios I should use for an exec stance build, not including the perks on them

A +1 wound curio feels necessary but unsure about the other two

[midnight totem]

Toughness and health

Or stamina and health

[eternal venture]

2 toughness + 1 hp

You can swap a toughness curio out for a stamina curio if you're running Deadshot

stamina is always helpful to have around, anyway

[eternal venture]

It's very good

Perhaps even great(!)

I just wish it weren't so taxed

[idle dirge]

It feels good to me but if I say anything as if it's objective it might start a fight

[eternal venture]

You already have to take so many tax nodes just to get to Infiltrate, then you want to take Low Profile to really bring out the ult's strengths (sniping with impunity, helping teammates without worry) and probably Overwatch so you can have two charges (one at all times if you play your cards right, and two to blow on panic situations)

Eh, saying Infil is good isn't controversial

If you were to say it's the BEST vet ult, then yeah you'd draw some heat lol

[crude ermine]

Nice

[eternal venture]

The problem is that Infiltrate is heavily taxed compared to, say, running Shout with plasma/revolver

Infil takes a lot of investment and has a higher skillcap than just running the braindead easy carry builds

Oh, yeah, add onto the fact that you need to path to Shock Trooper if you're using las weapons

and yeah, stealth vet has to jump all over the tree to even function properly

[bitter turtle]

nice power sword

very french

[eternal venture]

when you could just run down the middle of the tree the entire way and do fine for way less effort

[orchid musk]

My premade auto-kicks pub stealth builds. 90% chance they are terrible.

[eternal venture]

that's unfortunate

you should kick anyone running wound curios too

because there's a good chance they're terrible as well AYO

[orchid musk]

Yup

Though wounds rarely hurts the team.

[eternal venture]

should also kick zealots, and vets, and psykers, and ogryns

[idle dirge]

On my old vet I often used a build revolving around stealth and combat axe, it actually worked pretty well. Might try it again with the new vet

[ionic hull]

ugh why does Marksmens Focus have to be so badly implemented

[gilded wraith]

could also be less obnoxious and maybe have enough friend for a full premade some day 😉

[eternal venture]

(point being that kicking people for using stealth is dumb imo, but you guys do you)

[bitter turtle]

its implemented fine

juts shoot heads

and you can move

dont unnaturally turret in place

you lose stacks so slowly

[eternal venture]

If I were really an ass, I'd kick Exe stance vets because they're usually a liability

but i'd rather let people rock whatever they want to rock

[ionic hull]

wow i see where i stand exe stance in corner and dies

[serene sage]

some guns have a much larger head hit boxes than others

[bitter turtle]

that's fair

[crude ermine]

Well I was gonna be finished but I'm short of plasteel needed to change the perks so ig I gotta do another run

[bitter turtle]

i didnt say it was good for every gun

but the guns that do like it, you basically just play normally

[crude ermine]

It's really good for marksman esque guns like revolver and the lasguns n shit

[serene sage]

I think revolver hitbox should be much more accurate

[crude ermine]

Helbores

[serene sage]

like agri shotgun slug needs to be very accurate

and yet revolver which does more damage have a headhitbox like shoulder widde

[gilded wraith]

Does seem that way.

[eternal venture]

Revolver shoots a small log

it's kind of absurd how forgiving it is lol

[bitter turtle]

honestly

more than the stacks

the only thing i think MF should do more is more bonuses

per stack

maybe a little crit chance

idk

[idle dirge]

revolver vets

[gilded wraith]

I really want to make agripinaa work, but it seems to take a lot of work

[bitter turtle]

its easy to keep up but it doesnt feel like it gives a ton at the same time

[inland orchid]

“What do u mean the bolter rounds don’t fit in my revolver?”

[serene sage]

my conspiracy theory: because revolver is shared between vet and zealots
it needs to be forgiving because FS thinks zealots can't aim

but then that makes vet revolver very forgiving

[gilded wraith]

wait... isn't the agripinaa shared as well?

[serene sage]

yeah but it's a shotgun so who gives a shit

[gilded wraith]

rofl

[crude ermine]

Named machete

Uses a shovel

Fucking faker

[inland orchid]

But a shovel is a tiny machete

[uncut bear]

Thoughts on this build with a ruthless backstab/mercy killer knife and a columnus auto gun. I've been having fun with it.

[inland orchid]

Is like a spear being considered a long hilted sword

[eternal venture]

True honestly

[idle dirge]

Why is Bring it Down red

[uncut bear]

Bring it Down?

[eternal venture]

Ogryn/Monstrosity damage talent

[gilded wraith]

Okay, have this shotgun... which should be amazing! But doesn't really feel great on my vet. Anyone have a build they use with one?

[eternal venture]

That is weird, it shouldn't be red lol

[uncut bear]

Oh, I should grab that. Thank you.

[eternal venture]

red is only for talents tied to your ult

[uncut bear]

no idea.

[bitter turtle]

bring a melee with good single target dmg

go weapon specialist

[gilded wraith]

I'll give that a shot.

[bitter turtle]

maybe powersword or something

powersword is always gud

[umbral scaffold]

I'd remove the bottom middle, get trench fighter and exploit weakness on the right, reciprocity, duck and dive, uhhhh

[bitter turtle]

lot of weird picks ngl

[umbral scaffold]

Weapon specialist is a bit weird to use with automatic weapons to me, but it still fucks

[bitter turtle]

why covering fire

[slender turtle]

Id take that over a knife user

[umbral scaffold]

Covering fire is very niche and I personally don't use the extra grenade capacity

I'd also put uncanny strike on the knife

[bitter turtle]

there's a lot i'd remove before nades

but i probably wouldnt take +1 nades for this build anyway

like

demo team is better than+1 nades

[umbral scaffold]

I'd redo a lot of stuff there tbh

Would end up just suggesting a different build altogether

[bitter turtle]

this is my knife iag build

[umbral scaffold]

I wonder if Gameslantern is responsive on mobile

[idle dirge]

Dunno about the build stuff but I look at weapon stuff there often, so the website as a whole works :p

[bitter turtle]

https://i.gyazo.com/a2f440612321fbda980e09b53a44c982.png

for knife iag

[icy orchid]

is the chainsword still best melee?

[bitter turtle]

no

hasnt been since patch 13

powersword/rashad is prob the best

albiet both are a pain to roll for

[umbral scaffold]

This is my knife revolver build

For other weapons I switch bleed to agile engagement and the wep spec reload mod is a free point

[icy orchid]

so it's back to powersword?

[umbral scaffold]

Yep

[bitter turtle]

yes

not that the other options are bad

the new shovels are nice

[umbral scaffold]

Push attack combo to kill a crusher

[icy orchid]

what's the blessings on powersword, still BM and Slaughter if you don't have PC?

[umbral scaffold]

Utterly goated

[bitter turtle]

if they werent so trash vs unyielding

i'd say they're on par

[umbral scaffold]

PC is the cornerstone of the funnies

[serene bough]

shovels and PS are good melee

[umbral scaffold]

But yeah, BM slaughterer

[bitter turtle]

but instead they're a tier below imo

that unyielding dmg just hurts

[icy orchid]

...anyone have a talent loadout for bolter+PS?

[bitter turtle]

feels lik eyou're slapping monstros and bulwarks with a wet noodle

[serene bough]

kind of accurate if you th ink about hitting an ogryn with a shovel

[bitter turtle]

oh

but if the ogryn has armor on

it does MORE damage?

🤔

[serene bough]

it doesnt do great damage against carapace either

you need uncanny for it to do anything

[bitter turtle]

the initial hit does fine even without uncanny proccing

[frank ether]

old shovel needs uncanny

[bitter turtle]

i honestly was thinking of dropping uncanny on mk3

for limbsplitter

[frank ether]

new shovels actually dont think they need uncanny

you can have like

[bitter turtle]

ya

[frank ether]

limbsplitter

and just nuke a crusher with special

[bitter turtle]

i think limb/skull might actually be better

in general

no limb4 to test though

[frank ether]

I think limbsplitter for that initial hit yes but I also dont have 4 yet

[serene bough]

do the new shovels pickaxe attack not do well against unyielding?

[frank ether]

the old shovel btw

if you have uncanny

[bitter turtle]

no it tickles

[frank ether]

they do decent carapace

[serene bough]

i see

[bitter turtle]

like

its esp obvious against a monstro

it does about as much as a fucking light on a plogryn

you might as well just spam lights

at least they're faster

[frank ether]

you know whats great vs monstro?

chainaxe

throw in some stuns in your loadout and just melt their face

knife is also suprisingly good aswell

[bitter turtle]

knife is great yeah

as long as you can weave in and out well

[frank ether]

knife is growing on me

even though

[bitter turtle]

you can get a lot of hits in other weapons cant

[frank ether]

statistically I suck with a knife

but I think thats because

I mostly play ammo conservative

[bitter turtle]

ya

[frank ether]

and my teammates just shoot everything

[bleak tendon]

new knife very fun i approve

[bitter turtle]

you have to have a horde gun with a knife lol

[frank ether]

which is like fine

I do have a braced auto paired with knife

but I think

[bleak tendon]

i like stacking attack speed

[frank ether]

I think columnus iag would fit better

for veteran

braced doesnt work very well

you dont have any spread reduction

[umbral scaffold]

Knife with wep spec is plenty damage for hordes to me

[bitter turtle]

I run column IAG + Knife yeah

colum can spray hordes without going dry so

[frank ether]

yeah I was thinking of doing that

[hollow ibex]

tried new knife... feels weird to use

[umbral scaffold]

Just slap one poxy with a headshot, switch back and blend at lightspeed

[bitter turtle]

i mean

[hollow ibex]

prob would feel better if i purely used lights to horde clear

[bitter turtle]

the knife objectively just doesnt cleave dmg as well

at elast the old one

[hollow ibex]

but i don't want carpel tunnel

[bitter turtle]

idk about nu knife

[frank ether]

its not going to be a good horde clear weapon

[bitter turtle]

i don tlike it enough to learn the moveset

[hollow ibex]

new knife is much better at horde clear

(not saying much)

[frank ether]

its still not good at it but thats fine

[umbral scaffold]

It doesn't, but vet gets ridiculous finesse

[frank ether]

its an elite killer thats the purpose

you stab elites in the neck and they die instantly

[bitter turtle]

and mobility tool

a sick one

[umbral scaffold]

You essentially chain one-shots

[bitter turtle]

you feel so cool

[hollow ibex]

well i was using knife... and just thinking to myself the entire time i wished DS was on vet

[bitter turtle]

and edgy

[eternal venture]

New knife is a little like Sienna's dagger from vt2

First heavy is a cleave, second and third heavies are followup stabs

[frank ether]

yeah I'd love a dueling sword but knife is as close as it gets

[umbral scaffold]

I wish the mk2 DS wasn't just worse than the mk4

[eternal venture]

but you can combo into the heavy 3 stab from push attack I believe

[umbral scaffold]

Fatshark and their stupid overtuning

[eternal venture]

Funny how Psykers are the only ones that get dueling swords

[frank ether]

I think second heavy should have been a cleave since special attack gives you access to heavy 3 anyways

[eternal venture]

I guess it's to imply they might come from high-class backgrounds

[eternal venture]

Agreed

[frank ether]

right now I'm doing heavy 1 and then reset

I'd much rather have it

[umbral scaffold]

The new knife's second heavy cleaves

[frank ether]

heavy 1-2 reset

[eternal venture]

Yep just like Sienna dagger lol

[umbral scaffold]

At least I remember it like that

[eternal venture]

Heavy 1 > block cancel > heavy 1 > etc

[frank ether]

yea thats what I do aswell

[umbral scaffold]

Unless they made a horizontal attack be a funny stab

[eternal venture]

speaking of, I'd love a force dagger/knife on Psyker

[umbral scaffold]

Force Bretonnian longsword

[crude ermine]

Alright now that I have the plasteel needed for the perks

What am I putting on the powersword

I forgorznt

[bitter turtle]

probably flaniac unless you test carapace giving you the crusher 2 shot

[crude ermine]

Lemme test that then

Rq

[bleak tendon]

guys how should i use the newer, slower powersword?

mk 4 i think

[sage agate]

carefuullyy

[bleak tendon]

nah but actual

[bitter turtle]

there is no mk4

[frank ether]

[bleak tendon]

yk what i mean

[bitter turtle]

i unironically

have no idea what you mean

there is no new powersword

[sage agate]

the mk6?

[bitter turtle]

its the same 2 old ones

[bleak tendon]

yeah that one, the NEWEST

[bitter turtle]

that is 6

and not new

its old

as for how to use it

its the better one

[bleak tendon]

youve made your point fucking hell

[bitter turtle]

spam lights
use block cancel for charge to poke for single target dmg
slide when charging if you want to stay mobile while charging

[sage agate]

i prefer the old one but i still dont really use pswords

[bitter turtle]

idk man i actually want to help lul

but i had no idea what you were talking about

we just got a batch of new weapons

i almost thought i missed one

[bleak tendon]

ik ik easy misunderstanding mb

[sage agate]

btw i want to try out taxe mk7, any blessings i should take?

[bleak tendon]

thx for the tips

[bitter turtle]

the block cancel into push attack poke also goes into a downward cleave

so those 2 are really good for killing crushers and monstros and the like

otherwise

just spam lights

first 2 are perfectly horizontal so you can just go for days as long a syou have at least pc3

[bleak tendon]

the heavies are ass?

[bitter turtle]

no point in the heavies

they rebalanced heavies on ps so that they do the same dmg as lights

[bleak tendon]

style points ig

[bitter turtle]

that's why mk3 is meh now compared to 6

[bleak tendon]

thats? weird?

[bitter turtle]

yeah

it is

their movesets are inverted between the powerswords

mk3 has perfectly horizontal heavies with diagonal lights

mk6 has perfectly horizontal lights with diagonal heavies

so there's literally 0 point to heavying on mk6

just do lights or the poke combo

[bleak tendon]

[bitter turtle]

i guess its worth noting

that change they made back then only affects powered slashes

so heavy UNPOWERED slashes still do more dmg... if you ever use them lol

[midnight totem]

braced auto feels off on my executioner stance vet

well, the agri does anyway

[crude ermine]

Tested, can't break the crusher threshold at all so I just went with the try and true maniflak

[midnight totem]

I reckon is the smaller mag size

[hot canopy]

Low finesse rip

[midnight totem]

the catachan slow knife

[haughty pond]

mobility?

yeah it's slow lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Catachan Mk6 Tactical Retreat Blade

[loud perch]

Anyone got a good vet melee build? need 1k scab kills

Prefer to keep VOC

[haughty pond]

it's just one time thing

you stick it between crusher ass cheeks

[loud perch]

#veteran-class message this one good?

[umbral scaffold]

I made one a bit above for funny melee damage

[teal abyss]

If all you’re going for is the 1000 scab Melk assignment you don’t need a full optimized melee build lol just grab a Chainsword

[celest vine]

Its also communal

All melee kills in a match by any player counts

[tall torrent]

That’s a laspistol build, I just diverted some points to maintain axe breakpoints
Will work just fine for melee kill contracts, given your teammates don’t shoot everything on sight

[haughty pond]

are keystones crucial to the builds?

or can I leave this shit for other nodes

[tall torrent]

Depends on what weapons you’re using & what you’re going for

[haughty pond]

shotgun with sabot round and axe

want that melee with ranged mix

tried some build before which was kinda good

but the ranged dmg wasn't that good

[tall torrent]

Tag keystone can be used as a simple dmg boost, or as team support for toughness gain & additional dmg buff

[umbral scaffold]

Weapon specialist is something I always want to take for melee

[tall torrent]

Weapon specialist is especially good for revolver

[hot canopy]

Left keystone is crucial for builds with Columbus IAO

[tall torrent]

Columnus IAG doesn’t have to go left tree

Middle is fine

It’s a very generalist weapon

[hot canopy]

But the left keystone works best because of its unreasonable finesse bonus

And high rof

[terse idol]

https://youtu.be/igbP78qWPso?si=GENQTvUkhG97cMDp

Merry chromble vet chat

[finite imp]

Lmao

[torn root]

Columnus should go left

but still so right as well, there are a lot of good nodes that work with it

[idle swallow]

Han solo blastin with the new laspistol has been pretty fun so far, damage ain't nothin to scoff at and I don't feel like I'm getting carpal tunnel using it

[loud perch]

I have been using chainsword i just was looking for more of a pure melee build im just using a standard VOC build

[torn root]

i felt this i actually quit zealot to become a vet main now

vet just feels better to play in the upper difficulty

[finite imp]

Don't let zealot chat see this

[umbral scaffold]

Iron will is disgusting

I outright refuse to equip iron will

[torn root]

iron will is disgusting

and this is one of the reasons i started playing vet

lmao

[umbral scaffold]

They gave vet that much toughness and went "sure, let's halve your damage above 75% toughness"

[torn root]

makes dudes tickle you for like 20 damage and then just kill them back for the same amount

[umbral scaffold]

Yeah

You're basically a fucking tank

[idle swallow]

Eating crusher overheads that don't even break toughness is a mood

[umbral scaffold]

And then oh fucking no, it went below 75%

Just stealth or shout for an instant refill

[finite imp]

Lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Go back to murder and mayhem

[finite imp]

Would y'all believe we actually get room temp iq ass mfers that come in here and say this class sucks ass

[umbral scaffold]

Double charge stealth and iron will is fucking deplorable

Utter knavery

[serene sage]

this class does suck ass though

[umbral scaffold]

Absolute scoundrelitudes

[finite imp]

How about you suck my ass

[bitter turtle]

the class sucks ass

[finite imp]

For xmas

[umbral scaffold]

Oh, since it's for Christmas...

[finite imp]

See? And they hang out here all day

[idle swallow]

mods crush his skull thank you

[serene sage]

im good thank you

[limber egret]

hey question so between the normal lasguns which one is better to use?

im currently using the fast firing one

[umbral scaffold]

MG12 is still king, methinks?

[bitter turtle]

no

12 is the worst one now

[umbral scaffold]

1A?

[teal abyss]

The fastest firing lasgun is unfortunately the worst rn

[bitter turtle]

the other two are fine

[teal abyss]

Oh shit you said between the normals nvm

[finite imp]

Mg12 was never good

[teal abyss]

I meant recon

[finite imp]

Get fucked

[serene sage]

Mg12 days of Christmas my Emp'ror give to me

[bitter turtle]

nobody likes recon

it suggs

[finite imp]

Recon is ass

[serene sage]

Recon sucks ass

[teal abyss]

Literally only because they got hit way too hard, it’s a power maul sitch rn

They need love

[bitter turtle]

recons sucking is the norm

patch 13 was the brief moment of hope for them

[umbral scaffold]

I enjoy the 7a recon

They have good hipfire tbh

[loud perch]

Yikes all ive been using is recon lol not a vet main just do the weeklies on em

[finite imp]

Look m8. Go pick up the revolver. Grab yourself some kraks, grab the knife, and be as toxic as possible and tell randos their scores suck after you solo the entire map

[umbral scaffold]

Fuck that carapace damage tho

[bitter turtle]

you mean

fuck that maniac damage

[umbral scaffold]

6d is nice too, but I prefer the normal falloff of the 7a

[serene sage]

no they don't, even if they are good, they committed the most sinful of acts still. That is being boring.

[bitter turtle]

give them a bayonet

recon fixed

[finite imp]

Lmao

[umbral scaffold]

Give them uncanny strike

[bitter turtle]

im not even joking

[umbral scaffold]

Uncanny dumdum even

[bitter turtle]

recon+ bayonet sounds like a fun weapon

it fits their

SMG-style close range mobile automatic weapon

they want it to be

[umbral scaffold]

I want guns to have good hipfire in this game

[serene sage]

yeah but flashlight

[umbral scaffold]

Like actual accuracy

[bitter turtle]

😔

[teal abyss]

I don’t know how something can be MORE boring than the lasgun type that’s literally just boring semi auto but alright man Recon is fun compared to the boring default

[haughty pond]

hand over braced autogun with underbarrel bolter

[serene sage]

can't recon if you can't see

[limber egret]

heres what im currently using

[teal abyss]

Even in its shitty state

[serene sage]

flashlight is a neccesity

[bitter turtle]

imagine

if you could stick a bayonet

AND a flashlight on

they dont even go on the same spot

[limber egret]

but like between this fast firing variant and the medium and heavy pattern versions

which one is better?

if one of them is stright up better then the others?

[hot canopy]

Medium is probably best all round

[haughty pond]

https://tenor.com/view/joueur-du-grenier-no-fun-fun-fun-is-not-allowed-stop-it-gif-16558170

[serene sage]

well the special action is turn on and off the light

[hot canopy]

High rof if you are Uber gamer

[bitter turtle]

its ok just have it do both when you click special

imagine going CLICK CLICK CLICK flashlight while stabbing a horde

that sounds fun

[hot canopy]

Slow rof is out of its glory days

[serene sage]

base

[limber egret]

oh so none of them are like way better then others?

[hot canopy]

Not immensely but the medium and high rof are better

[bitter turtle]

The 1 and 4 are both good, 12 is just outclassed at the moment by other dmr style guns

[slate hawk]

I miss those days

[bitter turtle]

Just play vraks7 or helbore if you want that gameplay

[hot canopy]

DMR style guns are just out of meta anyways

Just use revolver

[bitter turtle]

They're decent

I use v7 almost exclusively atm

[slate hawk]

But now I got my plasma gun, my beloved

[bitter turtle]

And Helbore is the best melee weapon in the game

[atomic zephyr]

me using a boltgun like a dmr

[finite imp]

It's how it should be used

[finite imp]

Until you have 5 crushers in your face

[limber egret]

so what do you think of this lasgun?

[finite imp]

Then you go oh fuck and mag dump

[limber egret]

this good stats right?

besides the blessing?

[finite imp]

Yes

Go play

[bitter turtle]

Terrible stats you want maxed mobility and 0 everything else

[finite imp]

Come back when it's orange and we'll see if we can salvage jt

[finite imp]

This guy

[hot canopy]

Headhunter and the critical weak spot damage blessings are what you want

[bitter turtle]

Optimal perks are groaner damage and sprint efficiency

[finite imp]

Reported for terrorism

[bitter turtle]

No I'm trying to help

[finite imp]

That's exactly what a terrorist would say

[bitter turtle]

He's going to roll for those and get the good ones

Desire sensor

Trust

[finite imp]

Look
I've been playing monster hunter since 2

Ain't no fuckin way

[bitter turtle]

It's true

[finite imp]

It can hear us here

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-sus-suspect-simpsons-homer-gif-19741660

[bitter turtle]

Skypiercers and gems for days in tri

[slate hawk]

That's a primed reach moment

[finite imp]

For me it was zinogre Sky emeralds

[bitter turtle]

Couldn't get an ordinary scale or whatever the fuck to drop

[finite imp]

I couldn't get one for fucking DAYS

I just wanted to max out my lightning sword

Smh

[bitter turtle]

I've been rolling frostcraft in rise for days now

[limber egret]

so what about this?

[eternal venture]

Helbore is the good shit for DMR, but you're gonna be in John Henry mode fighting for kills against your average plasma/revolver user

[limber egret]

this good stats?

[serene bough]

yeah its goo

good

idk if mobility below 50% means youll get 1 less dodge though

[umbral scaffold]

Helbore switch speed is a fucking nightmare now

[eternal venture]

Helbore is way more fun than either of those, though

[bitter turtle]

You lose a dodge but idk how much that matters

For that gun

[umbral scaffold]

Always was bad, but now it's obnoxious

[eternal venture]

Yeah the Helbore swap speed is really what makes it frustrating to use as a special/elite sniper

especially compared to Plasma/Revo

[bitter turtle]

That's why you bayonet

[limber egret]

i mean hey its not as bad as the bolter right?

[umbral scaffold]

The game actively encourages faster swapping and hybrid combat

[bitter turtle]

I only switch to push burster

[hot canopy]

I like revolver more but im also a zealot crackhead player

[eternal venture]

that actually IS the reason why helbore bayonet is so good lol

even if bayonet combat is boring

[umbral scaffold]

Then comes and shits on me like that

[eternal venture]

it's so you don't have to swap except for big hordes

[bitter turtle]

No it's good because it's legit a ridiculous melee

It shreds everything except carapace

[eternal venture]

it's also a very very good melee yes

it's just boring

[bitter turtle]

Ur boring

[serene bough]

im sure the bayonett is going to be tuned down though

[bitter turtle]

😔

[umbral scaffold]

Bayonet is cracked, but also has the depth of a water puddle

You just spam the same attack

Literally one attack

[bitter turtle]

Nooo they already nerfed limbsplitter

[uncut bear]

which power sword is better?

[bitter turtle]

6

[umbral scaffold]

6

Funny crusher combo

[serene bough]

helbores to me are the epitome of a good weapon thats extremely boring to use

[crude ermine]

I was too slow to say the 6th number in the alphabet number😔

[bitter turtle]

Six

[serene bough]

i need things to move fast and swap fast otherwise im not a fan of the weapon

[limber egret]

i use MK 3 variant for horde clearing

[bitter turtle]

You do move fast on bayonet

[uncut bear]

thanks

[limber egret]

from just doing heavy attacks

since big swing

[bitter turtle]

It has the charged heavy quirk like knife

[serene bough]

helbore swap speed is a disqualifier for me

[umbral scaffold]

Helbore also

[serene bough]

id condsider using the mk3 if the bayonet wasnt garbage

[umbral scaffold]

I can't stand the iron sights

[bitter turtle]

I only swapped to my magic wand for pushing bursters

[eternal venture]

MK3 is fun for crusher 2taps

[umbral scaffold]

I feel like they're misaligned

[umbral scaffold]

I can't hit shit

[eternal venture]

Helbore sights are a crime though

[bitter turtle]

Magic bayonet blessing wand

[hot canopy]

Weapon customization mod baby

[bitter turtle]

Too bad it got nerfed

[crude ermine]

What kinda magic does it do

[eternal venture]

I love it when you stealth with a mk3 and the sights just disappear in the darkness lol

[umbral scaffold]

I need to use that again

[limber egret]

i do have this helbore

thoughts on this?

[bitter turtle]

The kind of magic that lets you stab people

[serene bough]

falter bad sprint effic bad

but you can change those so it has potential

[tall torrent]

Matters little, you swap to your melee like 5 times every game

[limber egret]

oh yeah i know bad perks

[eternal venture]

Swap Falter to Onslaught, Sprint efficiency to Carapace for crusher 2shots

[limber egret]

and the one bad blessing

but what about the actual stats?

[umbral scaffold]

Stab is fine

[eternal venture]

Stats are fine, good, even

[tall torrent]

Helbore 1 and 2 are just “guns on spears”

[bitter turtle]

I spear more than I shoot tbh

[umbral scaffold]

Just get determined if you're worried about suppression

[serene bough]

im not accustoming myself to the idea that they'll stay like that forever though

[serene bough]

they're definitely overtuned

[uncut bear]

What should I change?

[tall torrent]

Helbore lasguns have innate suppression immunity

Not needed

[umbral scaffold]

Supercharge to uhhhh slaughterer

[eternal venture]

Determined isn't necessary on Helbores

[umbral scaffold]

Oh

Based

[limber egret]

Oof really?

[hot canopy]

I’d just steal that blessing

[eternal venture]

Yep

[limber egret]

would had been nice if the game actually said it did

[umbral scaffold]

Another W for the Fatshark hidden stat team

[tall torrent]

Suppression is the effect that causes your sights to wobble like crazy when you’re getting shot at

[bitter turtle]

Helbore and plasma have it

Not sure what else

[tall torrent]

Helbores (and plasma gun) simply do not give a fuck

[umbral scaffold]

ILGs are legit unplayable without determined

[serene bough]

true

[tall torrent]

Laspistol is playable without determined

Primarily because you hipfire 50% the time

[hybrid token]

driunk maelstrom fun

[umbral scaffold]

Laspistol 0 stability kicking your gun 0.13mm to the side each time you fire

[tall torrent]

And also laspistol is already a massive point sink into left tree

[umbral scaffold]

Stamina regen delay enjoyers

[timid flower]

surgical is really good but falter isnt that great on the MkIII

[scarlet vessel]

is Hit and Run IV worth it on the autogun?

[umbral scaffold]

I prefer stripped down

[bitter turtle]

It is valid if you like it

[hot canopy]

Fire frenzy

[bitter turtle]

Get dumdum on the other slot

[tall torrent]

Hit & run is fine but stripped down is better imo

[umbral scaffold]

MERRY XMAS REJECTS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USqqWelU208

If memory doesn't fail me, stripped down also triggers reciprocity

With duck and dive and some sprint efficiency from the tree, you're immortal sprinting

[bitter turtle]

It didn't trigger duck and dive last time I tried it

But that was back on 13

[umbral scaffold]

It did when I tested it a few weeks ago

[bitter turtle]

🦆 and 🤿

I'll try again sometime

[umbral scaffold]

Goose and snorkel

I run my vet IAGs with dumdum and stripped down

[scarlet vessel]

gotcha, will save for stripdown

[umbral scaffold]

I wish skirmisher lasted more than fucking nothing tho

Or stacked faster

It's peak synergy with stripped down brautos, but its numbers are clunky

Otherwise you just get ridiculous damage on people

[serene bough]

took me longer than it should have to realize this is duck and dive

[crude ermine]

I thought it was swim

[lost lake]

Hunt and scuba

[crude ermine]

I'd love to swim but there is no water I can swim in atoma

Without dying

[tidal wedge]

swim in heretic blood

[crude ermine]

I would probably walking on a very tight rope on that

[tidal wedge]

the emperor protects against space aids

have faith

[limber egret]

standard lasgun is quite a lot of fun

[humble adder]

The game has decided to reset all of my skill points and I forgot what good perks were

[limber egret]

seems like your alpha legion tactis working well then

[humble adder]

Yes

lol

[serene bough]

love me some infantry las

[slender turtle]

If they could just reduce the recoil on the bolter so it's not sickening to use.

That be great

[serene sage]

are you taking Determined talent?

holy shit is this the greatest curio ever?

[limber egret]

is this blessing good?

this is not looking great

[serene bough]

i think its the worst blessing in the game

[terse idol]

No

[limber egret]

Oof so its absolute garbage then?

[atomic zephyr]

total garbage

[limber egret]

oh hey i got this

or what i got after upgradimg

[atomic zephyr]

lucky bastard

[limber egret]

the opening salvo is actually good for headshots

[atomic zephyr]

salvo to headhunter, ranged damage to maniac

oh fair

salvo on its own is very good lol

[limber egret]

also yeah i been doing headshots with it

this can one shot headshot a lot of enemyes

like gunners and so on

[sage agate]

only proper taxe name

[sage agate]

that's damn near perfect

[limber egret]

very noice atleast

also this lasgun been a lot of fun to use

[sage agate]

Ia lasgun is my favorite

[atomic zephyr]

Ia goes hard

[frozen meadow]

What mod lets you rename weapons?

[sage agate]

Name It https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/181

[limber egret]

the standard one right?