veteran-class

[bitter turtle]

or near it

kill me

[abstract moth]

Just don't play poker, easy

[delicate lotus]

I was born pre internet

[bitter turtle]

you're over 40 years old?

actually wouldnt it be about 50 now

[serene sage]

at least im still being carded buying alcohol
that something right :^)

[bitter turtle]

god damn 2010s were a decade ago

kill me

[bitter turtle]

people still think im in college

phew

not an old fuck yet

[gritty mirage]

i was born slightly earlier than internet yea

[serene sage]

yet

[bitter turtle]

ur right

[delicate lotus]

no im only 35 so 2 years before inet

[bitter turtle]

ij ust have to wait for digitization of the mind

[serene sage]

at lest I have the asian gene that is deceptive

[bitter turtle]

yeah i imagine that is part of it

for me as well

[abstract moth]

I mean you guys could always go for surgery and look younger if you care that much

[bitter turtle]

its not about that

ok maybe a little it is about that

[abstract moth]

Figures

[bitter turtle]

but its also about just knowing ur gonna DIE

imagine like you're on your deathbed

[abstract moth]

Everything dies

[bitter turtle]

and the new season of your favorite show is still airing

and you're like telling your grandkids

[serene sage]

yeah fuck that, i want to live forever

[bitter turtle]

put that shit on pls

and like

you're trying to hold on so you can see how it ends

😔

[serene sage]

don't tell me all the bullshit that people use to cope with death

[bitter turtle]

ya fuck that

its sour grapes i tell you

[serene sage]

if they can live forever, they would

[abstract moth]

I want everyone to live forever

[bitter turtle]

"oh it would be boring if you live forever" no fuck you

[quasi socket]

sometimes you gotta realize that its ok to let go

[serene sage]

it's not okay

I would die screamng and crawling

[bitter turtle]

being ok with it is different than being happy with it 😔

[serene sage]

anyway, agri shotgun is the slug one right?

[bitter turtle]

ya

[abstract moth]

Nah we the lucky ones that still lives, right now lots of people kids, young, adult, and elder are dying or getting killed by anything so there's that but life itself is it's own way of suffering or in the end is how you want to see it, not to mention people with disabilities which would desire to live like us

[bitter turtle]

i dont deny being lucky

but even those who are suffering still want to live 😔

well

except the suicidal ones

[fleet garden]

are there dns issues that make these super long loading screens

[bitter turtle]

im not really sure, i just have ot restart when it happens

[serene sage]

ive read somewhere that that is the case

some people calin changing dns settings can help

[fleet garden]

ye had to restart

[abstract moth]

I mean they want to for a reason, so that reason shouldn't have happened in the first place

[serene sage]

wait what is the kantrael shotty special then?

[serene bough]

The fire shot you mean?

[bitter turtle]

fire

[gritty mirage]

theres some issues like portrait making ppl lag

or turn off rtx

that made me crash

[toxic leaf]

EVERY KILL, A PRAYER FOR THE DEAD

[serene bough]

Fire shot is kinda mid now honestly

[serene sage]

yeah I turned off portrai rendering

and RT off

[bitter turtle]

ya I know, I just mentioned it on a technicality if someone went "nuh uh, not EVERYONE wants to live" or something

[gritty mirage]

ppl who dont want to live are plenty in the world. its called a death cult

[abstract moth]

DEATH IS MY BLESSING

[gritty mirage]

the promise of better, instead of empty void

[delicate moat]

worship the nurgle

[serene bough]

What is going on here in vet chat

[serene sage]

alright people, live for a cause, don't die for one

[gritty mirage]

nurgle protects

we have a bunch of heresy brewing, care to join us roughneck?

[bitter turtle]

i think kant is a bit meh but more because its role has shrunk

[fleet garden]

im running a 13900k with a 4090, stable 500/500 fiber but sometimes the game just doesnt want to work, especially those loading screens

[bitter turtle]

its still pretty decent at horde clearing mixed hordes

[fleet garden]

rt off

[serene sage]

idk, we are just having existential crisises, as well as real crisises
yesterday we had housing rants as well

[bitter turtle]

but melees got so much better

[abstract moth]

I mean people specially family should've stayed close to them, none gets born with the wish to die

[serene sage]

this is as real as internet discussions get

[gritty mirage]

@fleet garden it doesnt matter how good your pc is at times, this game can be odd

[bitter turtle]

people tend towards guns as anti-elites rather than anti-horde which hurts kant's standing

[bitter turtle]

ya I agree

[serene bough]

I read some of that yesterday, but to be honest I was inebriated and didn't want to think too hard lol

[green dust]

Hey guys, coming back to the game from launch. Can anyone link me meta builds and weapons for vet currently?

[gritty mirage]

housing crisis huh...yea im just living at my parents house, gonna save up money in the bank instead of paying rent

[bitter turtle]

almost every weapon is pretty good except recon

[serene bough]

Did you beat the twins yet @serene sage

[bitter turtle]

just pick one

[fleet garden]

if you want easy mode, got for voice of command with plasma and w/e wep

[bitter turtle]

that you like playing

[serene sage]

ah yes, the new Veteran class

[bitter turtle]

then ask for a build

[toxic leaf]

in a 4 person setting, its easy to justify a vet taking revolver/plasma/anti specialist weapon when you can count on another class coming in like psyker or ogryn that can horde clear

[serene sage]

seems legit

[bitter turtle]

ya im not saying it doesnt happen for a reason

[serene bough]

I think your vet is slightly overweight

[gritty mirage]

chonky boi

[bitter turtle]

there's a reason guns have definitely moved for a preference as an anti-elite

[abstract moth]

I mean rn I'm just trying to cope of potentially not being able to end rogue trader because of bugs

[bitter turtle]

even weapons that are perfectly fine like flamer have dropped in ppl's respect for them

because they're focused on anti horde

[fleet garden]

I like the columnus but my fav is still the mg XII, las weps are feeling a bit worse though than bullet ones

[toxic leaf]

flamer is still good, i think the difference is vet can take abilities to one tap specialists that end runs, while zealots cannot

so vets are really kinda forced into the anti specialist role

[abstract moth]

Man it will probably be my new fav class

[bitter turtle]

ive had a lot of zealots i talk to shun flamers now

[gritty mirage]

ogryns feel very good to play

[bitter turtle]

even for zealot guns move towards anti-specialist just b/c of how strong some weapons like revolver are

[toxic leaf]

well yea revolver and plasma are busted

they need nerfs

[gritty mirage]

plasma is nerfed, it has sound bug

[serene bough]

I think revolver is okay

[bitter turtle]

even the mroe balanced ones too

like laspistol

[sick oak]

anyone know what perks/blessing you usually go for on the helborn and the dump stat?

[bitter turtle]

anti horde guns are just not that valued

[serene bough]

Its power is offset by reload speed and clip size

[toxic leaf]

plasma?

[serene sage]

it's still overstepping Boltgun and Plasma in term of Carapace and Monstros deletion

[gritty mirage]

revolvers great antispecial for sure

[toxic leaf]

it has a ~45 shot mag lol

[gritty mirage]

but you better have a backup for hordes

[bitter turtle]

blessings are onslaught/surgical

[toxic leaf]

its reload speed is near irrelevant when you're 1 shotting specialists and can reload in between waves

[forest blaze]

Luckily you don’t use plasma for monstros unless it’s beast of nurgle

[bitter turtle]

dump stat is mobility/ammo

[fresh mango]

All I want for bolter is 5 more shots

[bitter turtle]

idk best current perks to hit breakpoitns

[serene bough]

plasma isnt that great for monstrosities

[bitter turtle]

ask someone else

[gritty mirage]

yea bolter needs a few more shots lol

[serene bough]

its great at deleting an entire conga line of gunners in one bullet

[fresh mango]

20/100 would be so perfect, but no, im damned to suffer andlook at 15/100

[forest blaze]

Chainaxe with bloodletter 4 tho? That fucks monstros up.

[serene sage]

slightly better draw (20-30% faster) and 2-3 more bullets per mag

[bitter turtle]

i think if the significantly buffed bolter's swap speed, or reload speed

one of those

[abstract moth]

I want dual wield 2 bolters

[bitter turtle]

that would make it good

[serene sage]

would make the Boltgun S- tier

[sick oak]

ty so stability isnt one

[toxic leaf]

i really think they just need to buff arming speed and nerf revolver and plasma

[fresh mango]

Honestly the draw speed has been starting to get noticable

[bitter turtle]

i havent used a low stability helbore so idk

but mobility is always a dump stat as logn as you keep it above 50

and ammo is irrelevant on a helbore

[fresh mango]

i was going to post boltgun build earlier but game did a memory leak

[toxic leaf]

because those guns arm quicker and can still 1 shot like the bolter with significantly less dificulty

[forest blaze]

Nah. They just need to make other weapons as good as them

[bitter turtle]

you have infinite ammo with shocktroop anyway

[toxic leaf]

nah thats how runaway powercreep happens

[serene sage]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[toxic leaf]

plasma and revolver clearly overperform other weapons

[fleet garden]

rather nerf than buff

[toxic leaf]

you dont make all weaposn over performers

[fleet garden]

kantrael mg XII buffs when?

[serene sage]

im fine either way tbh, but i would love to see the Boltgun slightly buffed

instead of the other 2 being nerfed

[abstract moth]

Like a storm bolter?

Yes

More bullets

[toxic leaf]

the way i look at it is, if plasma and revolver didnt exist, bolter would look pretty good

but they do exist and bolter looks like shit in comparison

[delicate lotus]

Thats Vet build im looking at https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a565016-bd70-4fe0-8c82-1080bc73412e/veteran-squad-leader

[vernal harbor]

thats a solid one

[serene sage]

I think Long Shot over Charismatic will let you hit a few breakpoints on the Plasma?

[delicate lotus]

I returned this game week ago so i dont know

[serene sage]

wait so you don't play it anymore?

[forest blaze]

Alternatively you can drop all that stuff on the left and superiority complex for trench fighter, which is a huge buff

[toxic leaf]

yea i'd drop charismatic and focused fire for longshot and exhilarating

[forest blaze]

You can drop redirect fire too.

[toxic leaf]

exhilarating is really good with plasma imo, ranged weakspot is your bread and butter

[forest blaze]

Agreed

[toxic leaf]

i thinik focus fire is useless, you're almost never getting to 8 stacks unless its a boss

[forest blaze]

Agreed

[toxic leaf]

redirect fire has some utility in horde clearing as you take out marked specialists maybe, but you could flex that point as well

[forest blaze]

I typically flex out of it in favor of tinkerer for frags

[serene sage]

you take focus fire because of redirect fire

[toxic leaf]

tinkerer is good

[serene sage]

it's not for the stacks

it's for the max stacks

redirect fire will stack to 8

[toxic leaf]

right but ive seen myself use it

[serene sage]

if you have focus fire

[toxic leaf]

and my stacks never go above 4-5

[warm idol]

max stacks focus fire is much more common than you think

[toxic leaf]

im always marking stuff

[serene sage]

I won't lie you are probably doing it wrong

[forest blaze]

I’ve been finding weapon specialist more valuable with plasma VOC builds.

[charred torrent]

slow down marking then?

[serene sage]

I maintain 8 stacks like 70% of the time

it's my main build

[quasi socket]

whoever came up with the idea of binding mark to left click can slowly burn

[forest blaze]

Middle mouse button supremacy

[quasi socket]

the amount of spam last group, ugh

[toxic leaf]

but at what cost? you gain, if you're actively tying to get 8 stacks on a target

[fossil basalt]

Anyone who says focus fire is bad doesn't know how to make it keep a 20-36% damage buff to your team 100% of the time

[charred torrent]

yeah, my mark is middle mouse

[serene sage]

you want to speed up marking if you want to maintain redirect fire buffs

[fresh mango]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adf9eec-0502-46ed-b4f7-f3819dfab893/mark-bolter

[bitter turtle]

you dont need to slow down marking

the stacks add up

[serene sage]

because of how stacking works

[toxic leaf]

focussed fire is 8 stacks from 5

[abstract moth]

Zealots?

[bitter turtle]

if you kill 8 enemies with 1 stack it still goes to 8

[toxic leaf]

it is a max of 12% extra damage

[quasi socket]

melee veteran...

[abstract moth]

Ah hmmm, unexpected

[bitter turtle]

only thing i dont really like

about middle keystone

it takes so many pts

gotta run 2 subnodes almost required

[serene sage]

very similar to my own build

[bitter turtle]

the other two can function alone even

[toxic leaf]

thats exactly what i use

except i path for hte extra stamina

[serene sage]

honestly probably better

[fresh mango]

something something great minds think alike

[serene sage]

I just like the idea of having more healths

literally it

[forest blaze]

Yah. Ive moved over to weapon spec with voc with plasma and it’s been awesome. Spend more time in melee, never reload, flex into gunner shootout when needed.

[toxic leaf]

you can flex tinkerer with any 2 points you like, but i like tinkerer with frags

[forest blaze]

Tinkerer frags win games

[serene sage]

extra based'

[toxic leaf]

im down on focussed fire, not redirect fire

[bitter turtle]

ngl

[serene sage]

tinkered frag will clear that horde of shooters

[fresh mango]

Think ill drop comp urge for field impro

[bitter turtle]

imo

[toxic leaf]

i think redirect fire is a strong node

[bitter turtle]

i think its better to pick up demo team

over tink

for frags

since its not already on your tree

[serene sage]

you shold really consider taking precision strikes and superiority complex

[forest blaze]

I’m down on both focused and redirect with plasma, personally. I didn’t find they were hitting key breakpoints

[serene sage]

those two nodes will boost a lot of damage

[forest blaze]

And I don’t care about team damage

[jaunty herald]

https://i.imgur.com/qKhYKvQ.png

Praise Big E's gift!

[toxic leaf]

redirect fire is a team booster, i think its worth it

but i dont hink it is vital

[fresh mango]

What should i drop for em?

[charred torrent]

"did a i hear something? must have been the wind"

[bitter turtle]

target down and competitive urge

imo

[serene sage]

competitive urge for either?

[bitter turtle]

you're not even running deadshot

what do you need target down for

[serene sage]

then I would say rending or target down

[jaunty herald]

rodin's farts 😔

[serene sage]

rending only helps with carapace

[forest blaze]

Deadshot doesn’t work on plas anyway

[bitter turtle]

its a bolter build

not plas

[forest blaze]

Oh

[bitter turtle]

and before you

say

"what about my teammates"

fuck your teammates

[forest blaze]

For real

[fresh mango]

I like my teammates :(

[forest blaze]

Fuck them, their toughness, and their damage

[serene sage]

yeah, so fuck them

[toxic leaf]

hahaha

[fresh mango]

Not after just meeting them smh

[quasi socket]

so columnus with exe stance in low tier missions is a map clearer as long as there are some ranged enemies about

[jaunty herald]

do I take them out for dinner before fucking them?

[forest blaze]

Sometimes

[bitter turtle]

why before

[forest blaze]

Normally a drink or two helps ease the tension

[bitter turtle]

why not dinner while fucking

[jaunty herald]

damn

slaanesh over here

[serene sage]

they are already leeching off my refirect fire damage

and my VoC shield

a bunch of lazy communist

[forest blaze]

Buncha losers

[serene sage]

get your own damn buffs

[fresh mango]

I wish vet had more white armor sets ngl, I wanna be a snow trooper

[serene sage]

check out for the drip mod

if you are into that

[fresh mango]

Too complex for my shrimple mind

[bitter turtle]

then live with your ugly clothes and ugly guns

[fresh mango]

YOURE ugly

[bitter turtle]

[serene sage]

man

I am so torn between supporting the shitty MTX shop

and actually making my character look nice

[fresh mango]

Im torn between not having money and wanting to look cool

damm you mtx shop..

[serene sage]

I have a little disposable income

[fresh mango]

My only source of income pending the new year will be donating blood

[bitter turtle]

i bought the krieg set

would not recommend

[fresh mango]

i still have 700 leftover

[bitter turtle]

the most useful its been is to shitpost being a katana wielding wehraboo

[serene sage]

apparently I have $150 worth of uncashed checks

[fresh mango]

wait hang on

[serene sage]

how should I spend this money?

[fresh mango]

something i just noticed

Why is one 300 less with more expensive cosmetics

How on earth does that work

[bitter turtle]

well you see

you're getting a generous discount on the right

praise fatshark

[topaz salmon]

What are cool horde melee weapons u like besides chaxe? I wanna try something new

[fresh mango]

power sword

[forest blaze]

Rashad. PS6. Chaxe12. Those are my go to

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-sleepy-uh-blank-bored-gif-7913449

im tired boss

[fresh mango]

i like how weve had the EXACT same Commissary since launch

Like 0 additions or change ever, other than the traitor being made the vendor

[vernal harbor]

stop spreading negativity

they also swapped like two vendors

[fresh mango]

Just put some more reskins in there, we will eat it up were so starved for free cosmetics

[vernal harbor]

i think

either way

theres nothing we can do...

[lilac jungle]

Does anyone else wish that the 25% ammo tallent was just a stat node? I feel like I never actually run out of ammo when I don't use it, and it just wastes a talent point getting to the Elite damage node

[fresh mango]

my brother in christ I dont want to continually spend money to look good in a game i already spent money on

I want moree earnable cosmetics

[forest blaze]

My sister in satan, I do

[fresh mango]

we have TWO sets that are earned, and the rest that are free are recolors behind ordos (at sometimes absurd price btw)

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-mike-ehrmantraut-marmok-gif-15491755101192661700

[unique orchid]

I use the OG chainsword

[fresh mango]

i want new penances for all the new fancy shit we got

[delicate lotus]

Imagine Krieg and Catachan sub tree?

[vernal harbor]

i can tell you theyre withholding all or most canon/related fits for story patch progression like if reinforcments come in or a patch about lowight fighting ect.

[desert hawk]

gota drip feed content

[quasi socket]

well you earn ordo dockets by doing missions, and then redeem them for cosmetics so technically there are multiple "earnable" sets

[wary galleon]

hmm aint they on a super tight leash by GW? thats how i understood it

[desert hawk]

no

[fresh mango]

you know what i meant.

[desert hawk]

most of the assets are already in game

[wary galleon]

understandable then.

[fresh mango]

GW does have all warhammer games on a leash this is true

[quasi socket]

i understood, just wanted to be the a-hole

[desert hawk]

fatshark just wants to spread it out to maximize fomo profits

[fresh mango]

we lost the naked set because of GW

‘naked’

[wary galleon]

why not consider both?

[desert hawk]

because if the assets are already in game

they would be approved

otherwise they're really wasting cash cause it costs them money every time to update the game

since they need to pay the console fee for certification

[wary galleon]

why would it cost them money every time they update the game?

[desert hawk]

because consoles

[wary galleon]

there is a fee for updating console?

[desert hawk]

They need to pay the big boys a fee to update the game

yes

[wary galleon]

ah i see

BUT

what about the weapon cosmetic? its been in the game for ages and it was never added though

[desert hawk]

Because it would eat into their sales

If you're new to fatsharks business practices

this is about par for the course

[tall torrent]

Ngl I think

[desert hawk]

vermintide 1 and 2 were also slow as heck updating

[tall torrent]

The 3 vet shovels are really balanced against each other rn

[delicate lotus]

I have been listining Caiphas cain and Gaunts while working out

[wary galleon]

that makes no sense to me, how would adding weapon cosmetics eat into their sales?

[tall torrent]

Used to think mk7 shovel was a bit awkward with the super slow heavy pull-out animation but

[desert hawk]

they drip feed the single weapon skin over time

vs just letting us buy them all

[tall torrent]

Mk7 can do overhead with push atk like SI

[desert hawk]

Glacial pace + predatory business practices

its pretty simple

[toxic leaf]

i like the 7 more than 3, its attack pattern is better imo

[wary galleon]

sure but those are like so designed to be basically one piece.
the one i was speaking about is equivelant of the mod you can find online.
i read the system was in place but was just never added

[delicate lotus]

Why does fire so much damn damage

[tall torrent]

I think mk7 best combo is uncanny + take a swing

[desert hawk]

Probably cause resources were diverted to other things

hence why crafting was half baked

why skill trees used to suck

etc

[toxic leaf]

which one is take a swing?

[desert hawk]

but we had a fully working cash shop day 1

with hundreds of pieces ready to go

[wary galleon]

that could explain it.

nice pfp btw

[limber egret]

upgraded my powersword now

[desert hawk]

thats a nice sword.

[wary galleon]

haha yea we know what the priorities were now

[limber egret]

sadly stuck with infested enemies

as a perk but could had been worst probably

[desert hawk]

You probably will still do enough on flak

to be fine

[limber egret]

its mainly my horde clearing weapon

[desert hawk]

shame its not mk6

but still

I'm just a big fan of the headpoke

[limber egret]

mainly just use heavy attacks to do big sweeps

[grizzled pebble]

I did hard mode using mk6 knife and plasma.

[desert hawk]

Chainsword + Columnus IAG here

worked out really well tbh

kinda got spooky with some crushers

but otherwise it wasnt a bad slog

[grizzled pebble]

Took both stamina regen delay and I just spammed push attack on knife. Xd

[wary galleon]

add the frak grenade and ur set

[limber egret]

is this talent any good?

[wary galleon]

depends on your playstyle and talent choices i guess. but if you are weighing the choice between 10% rending or like a keystone then i would say no

[desert hawk]

there's better options imo

depends what ranged you're running

[wary galleon]

its hard to not give a direct answer without full info sorry xd

[limber egret]

currently for my bolter build

[lilac eagle]

Do you lack armour pen

[lilac eagle]

The pain

[limber egret]

for this specifically

[wary galleon]

uuh very nice bolter.

[limber egret]

i was more just asking if the talent is even good or not

[ashen stirrup]

wtf, an okay emperor's gift????

[lilac eagle]

Shattering impact tho

No way a bolter needs shattering AND rending

[limber egret]

it wasnt just for my bolter im asking if the talent is even good at all

[lilac eagle]

3ish shots to a Crushers dome will kill them

[wary galleon]

hmm i see it shine best in a crusher patrol mag dump so shattering is good in my book

and render on the target means little difference when its you who dmg

compared to brittle

[lilac eagle]

As I said, does your build lack armour pen? Rending will only be good if you're not already running some in your build

[wary galleon]

well or maxing pen

[limber egret]

oh ok

guess i dont need it for what im doing mostly

[lilac eagle]

If there was a ogyrn modifier I could argue for a full pen build

[slim urchin]

what would yall say is better for plasma gun flak armor bonus or carapace armor bonus?

[charred torrent]

short version, because theres not a really short version: it'll increase your damage multiplier by 10, out of 100% vs armor you arent strong against. so on weapons good against armor, its not very good. on things bad vs armor, its good

[limber egret]

oh ok thanks for info

[lilac eagle]

It's going to merc both of them regardless of the damage boost

[charred torrent]

imo, carapace. you are gonna one shot most flak if you have decent damage already, but carapace enmies might survive one shot otherwise

[lilac eagle]

^

[slim urchin]

i was thinking carapce just wanted thoughts

[tall torrent]

Get unyielding/carapace + elite imo

[charred torrent]

carapace, or unyeilding I think? not sure about the unyeilding

[tall torrent]

If u can maintain flamer & gunner 1 tap headshots

[unique orchid]

Carapace because it applies to maulers as well

[lilac eagle]

Unyielding is so niche tho

[slim urchin]

i went for maniacs

and carapce

thanks for the advise tho fellas

[charred torrent]

yes, but its a niche that wipes...

[lilac eagle]

I'd take it for the twins, about it honestly

[charred torrent]

alls fun and games until no one has unyeilding damage for that DH or BON

[unique orchid]

Just... bring krak grenades you goon

[slim urchin]

krak grenades do go hard

[midnight mortar]

Bosses are not very threatening in DT if even half the squad knows how they work.

[charred torrent]

On vet yeah, but the other classes dont have crackkrak

[midnight mortar]

The real threat is the horde during bosses.

[unique orchid]

Also DH and BoN are monstrosities

They arent unyielding i dont believe

[charred torrent]

well, you see, thats the issue

[midnight mortar]

Unyielding is Monstrosities.

Their health type, anyway.

[green dust]

Is plasma better than bolt and stub?

[unique orchid]

I see

[midnight mortar]

Define "better".

[charred torrent]

depends on what you want

[green dust]

For ogryns

Special/elite killers

[lilac eagle]

At killing ogryns? Debatably.

[charred torrent]

Uh.... i think its about even with them imo

[lilac eagle]

Plasma is more damage in less shots, which means less wasted shots

Unless you suck at aiming

[charred torrent]

ive hit 1hko's on crushers with revolver, and i think i remember that on bolter too, but its been a HOT minute since i ran bolter

revolver is better at the stuff below ogryn, and its been to long since running bolter to give in depth suggestions

I think Bolter'll do a horde of ogryns better, but plasma is better in average situations

[crude ermine]

Bolter is alright as a weapon, it's fun to use but in times the plasma gun and revolver will be more consistent

[charred torrent]

Bolter can clutch like a MFer, but outside that clutch, the other two generally do better

[slender turtle]

Is there a good lasgun to use? Or is it just not worth investing into right now

[desert hawk]

the mk12

is decent

[charred torrent]

for what? Pretty much every weapon is good for something

[midnight mortar]

All the Kantrael infantry lasguns are currently viable.

The XII has the fastest TTK if you consistently headshot.

Otherwise, the other two variants will have higher bodyshot DPS with a marginally slower TTK.

[slender turtle]

Just a good head tapper general use weapon

[midnight mortar]

Avoid the Accatran Recons unless they get a rework.

[slender turtle]

I want to use a lasgun but they just are in a rough spot compared to autoguns

[charred torrent]

the Lucis varients are good, and the infantry ones are solid

[desert hawk]

I've rolled most of them, the XII just gets the most results from personal experience

[midnight mortar]

The Helbores (not the mk3) do the infantry lasgun's job well and also have better options for melee against ragers with bayonets staggering them in one hit and killing in anywhere from 2 to 4 headshots.

I used the XII religiously for about 200 hours.

The mk2 Helbore is the XII but better.

[charred torrent]

the XII infantry las is just really good if you use it well

[midnight mortar]

Additional flexibility due to the strong bayonet and the option to address carapace threats with the charged shot.

[abstract moth]

Hold up gimme a sec, need to reload. keep at bay the 5 crushers 3 ragers and 2 maulers for a split second. Almost done

[midnight mortar]

Can reliably one tap headshot gunners without charging in exec stance with the proper build.

Shoots faster than the XII as well.

[charred torrent]

but once you reload, and start firing, they'll be dead before you need to reload again....

the problem isnt even reload, its the swap speed

[slender turtle]

So outside the helbores, XII is just better all around?

[midnight mortar]

Depends on what you want.

[delicate lotus]

I almost always die when i have switch to my melee weapon id wish the sawp had zero delay

[midnight mortar]

I care about TTK on my infantry lasguns, so I prefer the XII.

[slender turtle]

#veteran-class message

[midnight mortar]

Some people just like shooting fast and don't mind the slower TTK, so they opt for the other variants.

[frank ether]

not to mention their strong bayonet more than makes up for the slow swap time

[midnight mortar]

If you want to tap heads and want to use an infantry lasgun, then I'd recommend the 12.

[abstract moth]

Both tbh, and the initial animation not necessary

[midnight mortar]

I love never swapping on my helbore and using the bayonet as primary melee.

[charred torrent]

Krieg intensifies

[tight dragon]

actually feels like i'm getting way more value from sustained than deathspitter

[frank ether]

I pair it with BM powersword which further buffs it, and then only swap if there is too much chaff

[serene sage]

after playing for a while, I think the reload speed is quite manageable, i think that should be the identity of the gun

[midnight mortar]

That's likely placebo considering a salvo is measured by when your recoil begins to when it resets.

[serene sage]

but the swap speed is just simply detrimental

[frank ether]

swap speed I get that people hate it but its a fair trade-off for how reliable the weapon is

[charred torrent]

yeah. reloads can be fixed with perks, the swap cant really

[midnight mortar]

A power increase is always going to give you more damage overall than your 3rd and 4th shot of base 74 damage being increased by 14 or 15.

[frank ether]

keep in mind as helbore user you're not relying on gimmicks like deadly accurate to hit like a truck

[charred torrent]

no, you just have to actually aim

[frank ether]

you just have high base damage to begin with

so if your aim and positioning is good, helbore is good

[serene sage]

can I show off my baby?

[frank ether]

that said I still didn't had the courage to bring a helbore to twins hm fight lol

[serene sage]

i deally I would love to have flak or even elite damage over specialist

but this is solid regardless

[midnight mortar]

I've tried. Sadly the helbore just doesn't cut it for a ranged damage role and the bayonet is out damaged by dedicated melee options.

[abstract moth]

I mean is better than before for sure, doesn't mean is good tho but the gripe is with the starting animation like at this point I'll just go revolver. I use bolter just because I like it not to be very efficient. And yes I get the identity of the gun and all but you know still at the very least they could've cancel the starting animation every time

[frank ether]

I dont think any of the las weapons except laspis would fare well in the twins hm arena due to the amount of mobility and adaptability required in there

and even laspis would struggle because its all carapace

or flak ragers

[midnight mortar]

Yeah the twins demand a more melee focused build for the most part on Veteran unfortunately.

Your ranged weapon is just there to break Rinda's shield.

[frank ether]

yeah its very melee biased I noticed aswell

[gaunt hinge]

i thought they only had a carapace hat

[midnight mortar]

Flak chestplate, unarmored underneath.

Also a carapace pauldron on one shoulder.

[frank ether]

maulers have flak body but they also have a huge hp pool

its too time consuming to magdump them

I think they are also buffed by the gas

[midnight mortar]

The twins also both take more damage from melee against their HP than ranged according to the multipliers.

[frank ether]

the guns are good for one thing though

[midnight mortar]

So unless you're a gunlugger Ogryn, your ranged damage is not going to surpass your melee against them.

[frank ether]

bringing down shields of rinda

I used a ciag with raking+dumdum and it was fantastic for that

[gaunt hinge]

i like doing the funny colum iauto deadeye shooty

[midnight mortar]

Yeah, my hardmode clear was with a CIAG.

[frank ether]

oh yea I actually dropped deadshot for the fight

[midnight mortar]

Really helps since a lot of players just don't have the damage to break Rinda's shield reliably.

[frank ether]

my oggy asked for field improv

so between precision and deadshot it was deadshot to go

[fading grove]

Yeah I was CIAG on my gun psyker raking fire and dum dum just dps blitz the bosses

[midnight mortar]

They'll break Rodin's easily because you can melee him, but then they flail around at Rinda.

[gaunt hinge]

to break rinda's shield simply carry a devil claw and parry spam 🙂

[frank ether]

if I'm doing that I'm not meleeing rodin though

its kinda uh...

well there are too many roles to fill

you have to multitask often

its better to kite rinda if you can I think

[serene sage]

I have 2500 Aquilas

Should I get the Boltgun skin?

[frank ether]

It helps that she just pushes you off of her sometimes

[limber egret]

hey so thinking about it

[serene sage]

it looks kinda mid ngl

[midnight mortar]

It's easier to do that, yes.

[limber egret]

i may just add tier 4 surgical on my bolter

[gaunt hinge]

i love facetanking rinda with the devil claw

[gaunt hinge]

she deletes herself

[midnight mortar]

Another space where a quickswap to a high fire rate ranged option you can dump into her shield to break it works well.

[limber egret]

so my bolter is this now

i think would be worth more

[frank ether]

Its just that her shields can be downed across the room with guns but rodin needs to be up close and rodin is also priority target

[midnight mortar]

Yeah that's what I mean.

[frank ether]

yee

I also tried the funny quickswap revolver

[midnight mortar]

For the person who ends up kiting Rinda, their melee doesn't have to be the option to deal with Rinda's shield if you run a weapon like the CIAG.

[frank ether]

which is good

[midnight mortar]

It's very optimal for actually being available to then kill Rodin.

[ebon umbra]

im honestly a big fan of twins pubs bcuz we wipe so fast i get my dockets v quickly. honestly more efficient than winning on lfg games

[frank ether]

but I just didnt find the right team with the revolvo-chaxe loadout

I'm like somewhat confident

that loadout can clear it fine

been already spamming a lot of maelstorms with chaxe lately

[fading grove]

Auric maelstrom’s AI director has been bonkers lately

[ebon umbra]

it is insecure bcuz everyone is doing twins

[frank ether]

lmao

[fading grove]

Also if you unlock a blessings it goes to all characters right if they have the same guns?

[frank ether]

maelstorm is relaxing compared to twins hm

yes, it should be account wide

[abstract moth]

Yeees do itt

[fading grove]

Ok

[green dust]

I haven't played since the 1st year. I used to use bolt gun with volleyball fire refill and standing still you got targeted less. Is there a build similar?

[abstract moth]

I did

[serene sage]

what can I do with this gun?

[abstract moth]

Is a very sexy skin

[crude ermine]

I'd swap the perks

[drowsy kayak]

nice lin icon

[crude ermine]

Thank yee

[serene sage]

No respite to deadly accurate

[crude ermine]

That too

Mainly that one

[serene sage]

and maybe carapace to unarmored to kill guners?

[frank ether]

I think infant las is horrible at killing carapace

[serene sage]

yeah im thinking carapce to unarmored

and find another way to kill carapce

[frank ether]

not having deadly accurate sucks but no respite in the right context is also pretty good I think

Its just that I dont think you can reliably stun things with infant las, Idk

[hearty frigate]

One nuke, and the whole corrupted hive situation goes away

[crude ermine]

It's inconsistent

[frank ether]

infant las rly sucks at carapace anyways so you're better pairing it with a carapace capable melee

[green dust]

Boltgun best blessings?

[hearty frigate]

A tech priest kissing each bullet

[wind echo]

so, when is the space marine class being added

?

[green dust]

😆

[hearty frigate]

Shut the fuck up.

[frank ether]

when the servitors fly

[wind echo]

k

[serene sage]

damn that's so rude lmao

[hearty frigate]

They already do

[abstract moth]

When we all become battle sisters

[serene sage]

what the hell

[hearty frigate]

I know (I’m intimidating him)

[abstract moth]

Is not nice tho

[frank ether]

sssh

[wind echo]

i don’t mind ngl

[hearty frigate]

Nobody was nice when I got in this community

[abstract moth]

Oh alright then

[hearty frigate]

Nobody gets special treatment1!1!

[wind echo]

crazy? i was crazy once

[abstract moth]

I'm always nice

[hearty frigate]

they locked me in a room

a rubber room

full of nurglings

and nurglings make me crazy

They should add nurglings as a sort of treasure goblin mechanic

[abstract moth]

I really liked the nurglets in VT2 they were kinda cute

[hearty frigate]

Shoot them for a bunch of loot

And a guaranteed extra weapon pickup

[crude ermine]

Wish we got to fight reeaally biig frogs

[hearty frigate]

Nurgle frog

Grabs you with its tongue and slowly drags you alway

[abstract moth]

But frogs are cool

[hearty frigate]

smoker from L4D2 sound effect .mp4

[abstract moth]

I mean that dude disintegrated smokes every millisecond to have lungs like that

[hearty frigate]

Lung cancer baby

[scenic lance]

Uhhh the intro to the game mentioned something about a rogue trader?

[abstract moth]

What

[sharp ember]

the ship we're on is a rogue trader ship appropriated by an inquisitor

[abstract moth]

You mean the skins?

[scenic lance]

I see. Idk, it showed me it in those four " intro panels "

[sharp ember]

oh, the special cosmetic shop lol

[scenic lance]

Yeah man idk I glossed over it because I spammed continue because I thought it was the same shit saying " traitor's curse part 2 " again for like the 5th time

[thorn yoke]

Commodore Hallowette

[abstract moth]

Ye thers new premium skins

[frank ether]

hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, psyker chat is two blocks down

[jaunty herald]

Thoughts on this vraks mk VII?

https://i.imgur.com/UcXykqK.jpg

[frank ether]

pass

[hearty frigate]

Vraks have an autogun….?

[abstract moth]

Hallowette should have a fleet bigger than the imperium by now

[hearty frigate]

Battlefleet gothic armada 2 is fun when you don’t take it seriously

And use all your imperial ships as rams

[jaunty herald]

Two of them. Mk III is burst fire and mk VII is semi-auto DMR

[bitter turtle]

vraks3 is a 3shot burst

[serene sage]

vraks7 is a 7 shot burst

it's true

[bitter turtle]

you can basically treat it like an iag

omg really

[flint garden]

aint there also a vraks ix or something that sucks

[bitter turtle]

so agri9 is 9 shot burst right 🤔

[serene sage]

yeah but it shoots slowly so it's more of a semi auto

[lofty lintel]

hello veteran chat, is this salvageable?

[flint garden]

why do lasgun vets always never know how to melee and always shoot barrels in my face

[serene sage]

he was shooting the poxwalker and took like 5 shots to do so

average lasgun damage

[frank ether]

shooting poxwalkers

you could just leave it there

[serene sage]

I mean it's clear as day in the video

multiple shots nto the poxwalker and the thing still moving

imperial flashlight on display right there

[frank ether]

average mg4 user

install autofire macro mod

turn brain off

???

[flint garden]

actually might be laspistol. either way pain

[frank ether]

fail

thats even more embarassing

laspis is super easy to be accurate with

[serene sage]

it was a laspistol yeah

[jaunty herald]

2-shot burst 💀

[serene sage]

average vet in melee

[quasi socket]

people grabbin crates and not using as team is in red for ammo, legit

[atomic zephyr]

running the near-perfect mg1a hadron bricked for me last night and its honestly infuriating how good it feels even without deadly accurate

it couldve been even better than it is :(

[charred torrent]

I mean, how bad was whatever dmg vs maniacs replaced?

[serene sage]

mods are asleep

post the real veterans

[vivid parrot]

lol

[south garnet]

The lighting and compression make this funny as shit, deserves some kind of caption

[unique orchid]

I am glad i am not in the stereotypical blanket of veterans who die because a melee unit coughed on them

[celest vine]

I consecrated cycler 4 onto it

Thank you sire milk

[serene sage]

honestly idk what's so hard about meleeing a horde (mixed horde is another story sure) but normal horde you just spam attack, dodge once in a while, hear "whoosh" then right click to block

like

it's braindead

when I first started I spam dodge like a mofo and don't die to normal horde still

[eternal sable]

almost can taste it

[unique orchid]

True, most of the time they are unaware that block is 360⁰

Which to be fair, block being 360 is wild

[eternal sable]

i have 5 penances left

disruption, repair, investigation, purge the heretic and flawless

[elder vessel]

I am going to create a 2nd psyker to get more autogun blessings and melkbux

[eternal sable]

i can get flawless but anything but auric t5 puts me to sleep

[serene sage]

based on this at least 35% of people have at least 25 hours in (assuming 1 hour per level)

oh did they

[unique orchid]

I can confirm, levelling my psyker to 30 after the patch took 9 years

[desert hawk]

It's probably fast to level alts now

since the special event is quick

[mild marlin]

Hey guys! first time poster long time listener. Ive got back into darktide as of this month after missing the initial hype surrounding the new Class mechanics. Very happy with how ive built both my zealot and my vet but I was wondering how to do the Vet specific volley fire challenges. I may have missed it but I can't seem to find volley fire as an option anymore? Any help would be appreciated cheers guys!

[quasi socket]

volley is the basic ability, gets replace by executioners stance, voice of command or infiltrate

and exe stance kills count towards volley penances for anyone who didnt know

[mild marlin]

thank you guys! Trying to get the leathers and I realised I didnt actually have volley fire anymore

[quasi socket]

guess its time to grind Find your Targets and Be Methodical, only penances i have left for vet

[eternal sable]

farm your penances

!!!!

[scenic lance]

Is there some hidden reward for the bell skip

[eternal sable]

trinket for beating hard mode

and more importantly, the penance

same thing but +5

[hearty frigate]

are the bells on different maps?

[quasi socket]

nah, theres a steam guide for it

[frank ether]

this needs to be deep fried a bit more

[unique orchid]

The only one i have left myself is MeSC

[atomic zephyr]

trauma worth grabbing?

[midnight mortar]

There's only one map where they show up, the Orthus Offensive special assignment's variant of the Torrent.

[quasi socket]

post in lfg for it, was able to do it on karnak twins if you wanna try to cheese with revolver easily

[lilac jungle]

Any blessing recommendations for Helbore lasgun?

Onslaught obviously

[quasi socket]

surgical too

[severe finch]

whats the recomended blessings for a columnus IAG

[serene sage]

Dum Dum Fire Frenzy

[spare mountain]

the torment is unceasing

[urban steppe]

its not a same , hard mode one have a more gold lol

[spare mountain]

A godrolled Mk IV is my unicorn

No matter what it won't roll

[eternal sable]

its not efficent i feel running hard more for gold

the randoms are usually too shit to carry

[serene sage]

it looks different

[spare mountain]

love the gold

[serene sage]

more gold, more spikes

[forest blaze]

The emblem of a guy with a big pp

[serene sage]

I still prefer the classic

simple

elegant

not even including UI portrait rendering 😎

[forest blaze]

The look of a guy drowning in spaceussy

[eager ruin]

Should I change the perk (for manic or carp) or blessing (bloodletter or headtaker)?

[quasi socket]

taking exe over voc feels like trolling...

[atomic zephyr]

exe stance isnt even bad, VoC is just nuts

its quite good even

[quasi socket]

yeah, with columnus it rips

[atomic zephyr]

run exe stance columnus with marksman's focus

[serene sage]

4 Mortis operatives

[atomic zephyr]

it sounds like a troll but its comical

[serene sage]

name this album

[quasi socket]

1 run, just 4x for be methodical

[atomic zephyr]

oh ez

[quasi socket]

yeah thats the build im using now

[atomic zephyr]

i think i got that one with the XII months back

[quasi socket]

just rippin through stuff, kinda nutty

[quasi socket]

currently waiting on plasteel

[atomic zephyr]

nice

[forest blaze]

Ooh hard to say. Slaughterer is a great baseline and thunderous is really good but I like bloodletter more…. Are you hitting the regular heavy one shot breakpoints on mutants?

I’m not a head taker fan on chaxe but I like thrust a lot

[eager ruin]

Yeah I one-shot mutant on heavy

[forest blaze]

K what about maniac rager?

[eager ruin]

Two

sometime one but that on a crit melee build

[keen wharf]

i hate how i just rolled this on my Psyker.

[forest blaze]

Yah… hard to say. Thunderous should hit max brittle on your special. Can you one special one shot crushers ?

[eager ruin]

I tried some test and I only can kill them for two hit

Heavy and single

[forest blaze]

Yah that’s what I thought. It’s hard to justify losing a t4 blessing because thunderous t4 is really good… I say change unarmored to maniac, carpace, or unyielding

I’ve found that I really like slaughterer/thrust/headtaker + thunderous/bloodletter. Preferably bloodletter because 16 stacks on a special cancel is real good

20% brittle on hit tho? That makes everyone on your team super happy

[eager ruin]

Yeah, I figure I only need to change perks. I too like to try bloodletter but I got to take the breakpoint.

[forest blaze]

Yah

I say roll with it

[celest vine]

Hadron blessed me

[forest blaze]

I have thrust bloodletter with flak maniac but my shredder stat isn’t great…. Bloodletter fucks up monstros tho

[celest vine]

Cycler 4 without using a lock

🙏

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[celest vine]

Its not even the first time getting it

[forest blaze]

I just scrapped my PS6 after weeks of never finding a PC4

Weeks/months

[celest vine]

I got Pc4 like immediately

[solemn galleon]

what are the best blessings for ps6?

[celest vine]

Cycler 4, brutal momentum or sunder

Oh yeah

I do have sunder in my blessing bag

There we go

Not sure if flak or maniac is best

Gonna try flak for now

Last thing needed is an MG1A lasgun

Flak, maniac, Headhunter and deadly accurate

[hazy notch]

What Modifiers/Perk/Blessing are the best for the 1 infantry Autogun?

[midnight mortar]

1 Infantry Autogun?

[hazy notch]

Yes

[celest vine]

Infantry lasgun?

[hazy notch]

Hold on let me Pull it up

[slim rivet]

Should specify which pattern for easy info

[hazy notch]

The Mk 1 varent

[quasi socket]

2 runs for Be Methodical, now just Vantage Point 3....

[quasi socket]

agri?

aka agripinaa?

[hazy notch]

THIS THING

[quasi socket]

yeah, agri mk1

[hazy notch]

Ok How do you build It

[quasi socket]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbwhpBhfLDIHB2sUjCHQAT1QjhrHhNWgazxoazPNDlY/edit

weapon cheat sheet

[frank ether]

which mark

[quasi socket]

its in the pinned comments

[hazy notch]

Is it updated?

[quasi socket]

most of it to my knowledge is still relevant, but safe bet, dumdum and deathspitter

[frank ether]

nothing wrong with mark 7

[quasi socket]

then your choice of flak/maniac/unyielding

but for iag, always high damage and high stopping power

well, loots like we got some work to do...

[slim rivet]

Got one from melk for a 76%/71% on dmg and stopping power

[quasi socket]

what ive been rocking for about 2 weeks?

want it in agri form just for playing, its been damn good to me tho

[slim rivet]

Hmm might gonna get myself an auto stubber

Just in case las isnt needed much

[quasi socket]

@hazy notch also, if leveling, try to save mats. most of the guns get replaced mission to mission until 30 where you can get weapons with 80 in multiple catagories

[quasi socket]

i dont see many other vets running las these days, but i know some people love the m1a. im just trying to build a pool of options so when the next nerf/buff hits i have some back ups

[slim rivet]

Still getting blues or purple time to time
Is damnation only place to get orange?

[slim rivet]

Methinks its only during spec ops? Most are just running with plasma and bolter

[quasi socket]

not reliably, might wanna ask the guys that burn through auric damn for fun tho. ive gotten a few in damnation, but nothing to write home about. most go through the rng machine of brunt/hadron grinding

[slim rivet]

Still looking for mk1 helbore replacement stats

[slim rivet]

Oh i see currently im just grinding damn twin fight

Gives me the wrong weaps tho

[quasi socket]

right on. havent tried it on damnation yet. might give it a shot this week

[slim rivet]

I mainly use either the chainsword or the venerable shovel

[quasi socket]

i got a ps mk6, but need bm4/pc4 for ease of living

[slim rivet]

Yea didn't know i just did hard damn until i got that medal

Twins the only reason im bringing in stubbers, felt las doesn't do much on their shields
But Helbore still my go to las to melee charge

[midnight mortar]

You can get purples as gifts from Damnation too.

It's just less common.

Oranges are more common but not the only reward.

[slim rivet]

Oh i see

[quasi socket]

so for mission selection, beneath the picture for each mission, is that like how active/how many fire teams are running the mission?

specifically the emblem with chevrons/skulls

i will say tho that getting a 420 orange from damnation just feels bad

[midnight mortar]

That's an indicator telling you the highest level of difficulty you've cleared that specific mission on for your account.

[slim rivet]

Maybe you need to equip higher gear score to increase score drop?

[midnight mortar]

That doesn't affect it.

[slim rivet]

Oh

[quasi socket]

oh dope, thanks!

[midnight mortar]

The range of base ratings for weapons you can acquire whether it's from drops, Brunt, or Melk is based on your character's current level.

[slim rivet]

And rng

[quasi socket]

brunt got some loaded rolls some times

[slim rivet]

Then you have to go through Hadron

XD

[quasi socket]

yeah, thats where the brickening starts

i do have dumdum and deathspitter r3 tho, so i might be able to salvage one

or spend the next month rerolling agri's lol

[slim rivet]

I'll just wait on Melks lineup might be a few perks and blessing worthwhile

Like 2 is ideal and you can just let Hadron change the other lesser 2

[quasi socket]

usually he sells bricks with nice blessings for me, thats about it

still waiting for a pc4 from him, keepin my hopes up

[slim rivet]

Got my current Helbore from him
Sustained and onslaught at t3

Perks were meh so swap it out

[quasi socket]

i got onslaught 3 from him today

transplanted it to this

can 3 tap brawlers, 1 tap mutants, 1 tap reapers, but with marksman full stacks and exe stance

[quasi socket]

and at full charge

[celest vine]

Space marine 2 leak

[quasi socket]

oooooh

[celest vine]

Cant just be tyranids spaced egyptians need to get involved

[quasi socket]

i mean chaos popped up at the end of space marine, during the ork invasion

not surprised

[celest vine]

Helbrute in thousand sons livery is good to see

Thousand sons get ignored mostly

[tall torrent]

This is so fun

[paper brook]

"I shall tend that relic, varlet!"

[quasi socket]

what are you running with the build?

[celest vine]

Nvm

Alpha legion helbrute

[paper brook]

Probably a Christopher Columbus MK V

[celest vine]

Not thousand sons

Even better to see the ghost legion

[quasi socket]

cant wait for all the "i am alpharius" spam

[atomic zephyr]

i am not alpharius

werent expecting that were you

[lofty lintel]

worth keeping?

[celest vine]

If you dont have anything better then yea

[lofty lintel]

or i can extract deadly accurate from that lasgun and slap it on this one

what should i do

[quasi socket]

have you used the mk12 yet?

[celest vine]

Swap elite for flak and swap between the eyes for whatever better

Opening salvo is pretty good actually

[lofty lintel]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[atomic zephyr]

slap DA in place of between the eyes

[lofty lintel]

putting deadly accurate on the 1a and replacing elites or unyielding for flak

alr bet, thank you

[atomic zephyr]

wait that's not headhunter

oh well

sitll good

[lofty lintel]

yeah ik it could be better but thats all i got

for now

[atomic zephyr]

trust me i know the feel

[lofty lintel]

lolol

😦

[atomic zephyr]

wasted at least 3k plasteel on rolling MG1As last night

[lofty lintel]

damn

[quasi socket]

ooooof

[atomic zephyr]

got trolled by hadron

[lofty lintel]

same here and the one you see in the screenshot is the best i could get

[atomic zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

[lofty lintel]

lool true

[atomic zephyr]

its still a good gun though

stacks a LOT of fire stacks so nto the worst

[lofty lintel]

i mean would changing both blessings for deadly accurate headhunter be better than replacing perk and between the eyes?

[atomic zephyr]

eh

[quasi socket]

crit + infernus kinda nice

[atomic zephyr]

its nice to have a perk swap

[lofty lintel]

alr bet

ty

[celest vine]

I have an almost identical mg1a

[crisp bronze]

This is my best Rashad so far. Wondering what perk I should change the 8% Melee Damage (Groaners, Poxwalkers) into.

[flint garden]

flak

[sharp ember]

yeah flak

shoot for killing dreg bruisers in 1 headshot

[serene sage]

yeah Hellbrute looks scary but the Ultramarines can use use Revolver with Handcanon and do max damage to the Hellbrute anyway

[atomic zephyr]

me watching the psyker self destruct four times in a row (i joined near the end, cant imagine how many times he did it before i joined)

was the last player standing twice

[serene sage]

make sure you flame him so he knows what he's doing is wrong

[atomic zephyr]

lmao

it was silo cluster i think?

none of them were hitting the eyes

[junior grail]

Spam E when picking up to teach a lesson

[atomic zephyr]

i was very tempted to just leave him there

[junior grail]

What level was the Psyker

[atomic zephyr]

this was auric histg

dont have true level mod

[junior grail]

Well that's embarrassing, attempting auric histg while not mastered peril yet

Blowing up once or twice is common, more so is ridiculous

[atomic zephyr]

its always the dudes with four wounds

[junior grail]

Four?? In Auric?

[atomic zephyr]

yes.

[junior grail]

Wow

Most I'll allow is one extra

[atomic zephyr]

every time i see someone with four wounds in auric they'll constantly eat shit

besides zealots

[junior grail]

Martyrdom zealots are a whole different breed to me hahaha

They can either be meh or the most amazing players ever

[atomic zephyr]

wait yeah martyrdom zealots cant even get four wounds dont they have a +3 wound talent

so min five

thus, its ALWAYS the mfs with four wounds

[midnight mortar]

At least they're admitting they're bad at it.

[atomic zephyr]

true lmao

i used to think wounds boosted health

[junior grail]

If there was the auto heal charm like back in VT2, I'd imagine they'll use that too

[atomic zephyr]

the funniest part is that i wasnt even running VoC vet

i was running exe stance

still holding off crowds better
shredder frag = ultimate cheat code

[junior grail]

Shredder frag still such a good nade

[atomic zephyr]

honestly i think its better than krak

[junior grail]

You run Tinkerer?

[atomic zephyr]

on my dedicated grenadier build yes

[junior grail]

I've had Kraks not kill Bulwarks for some reason

[atomic zephyr]

not with exe stance lasgun build

[raw steppe]

if you hit the shield and the shield blocks it

the bulwark doesnt die

you need to get it behind the shield

[atomic zephyr]

wdym i throw kraks into shields all the time

[serene sage]

I think frag should be the default choice, unless neither your gun nor your melee can kill carapace for some reasons

[junior grail]

They used to die

[atomic zephyr]

like straight on

kills em